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  • Rajan Jerath's invention causes a real stirrup in the Den as Peter promises an entrepreneur that Apple will sue him, but Duncan challenges Peter's opinion, only to that "you'd be stupid to disagree." Rajan Jerath is seeking a £75,000 investment in return for a 20% equity stake in 'iGloves'.
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  • @elitav5491
    @elitav5491 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6653

    Jenny: "I already have a product and it's called the iMout"

    • @PolitischTourette
      @PolitischTourette 4 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      LOL

    • @anneliseromine1161
      @anneliseromine1161 4 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      😂😂😂 I literally LOL'd at that!

    • @777shankster
      @777shankster 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      Salut to this bright mind

    • @evoke2329
      @evoke2329 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Brilliant 😂

    • @kis005
      @kis005 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Ok this one was actually good. Bravo 👏

  • @MSROnline001
    @MSROnline001 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5001

    Peter was proved wrong here. Apple tried to enforce the small 'i' in court and were told you can't can't claim trademark rights over the letter 'i'

    • @lunastone70
      @lunastone70 4 ปีที่แล้ว +242

      Yeah the same goes for the creater of film rating system, when they tried to trademark the letter " X" because the playboybunnie magazine used "XX" or "XXX". The rating system loss the battle.

    • @lunarmystic9896
      @lunarmystic9896 4 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      Wow...really ?!

    • @Antediluvian137
      @Antediluvian137 4 ปีที่แล้ว +305

      Perfect - I honestly can't imagine a free economy where letters are allowed to be trademarked. "i" and "X" are free - they're building blocks, not an idea being stolen or impersonated.

    • @sysiphuscorinth
      @sysiphuscorinth 4 ปีที่แล้ว +80

      @@Antediluvian137 but companies strill try.. BTW have you not seen the pattern in this show? "We're Investors.." "eh I have an idea. here's the sample, i've trialed it, people liked it" .. "HMM, ok, is it patent secure, is it selling, do you have a pipeline, have you tried china to make it cheaper, I'll give you 1% of the money for 68.3% of the company.. fu you have no business.. (insert trump meme here.. I've had.. I'm the best at etc. )

    • @Michael-ot9bk
      @Michael-ot9bk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +221

      Of course, Peter was wrong here. He's a clown. Any fool knows that whoever registers the trademark first owns it in the regions in which they were granted the trademark. That's the entire purpose of the trademark process.

  • @rangers2721
    @rangers2721 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2133

    Peter: I'm out
    Jenny: I'm afraid that phrase is trademarked.

  • @DUCKSXLE
    @DUCKSXLE 3 ปีที่แล้ว +877

    Peter: You can’t disagree
    “I CAN DISAGREE, ITS A DEMOCRACY. MY FATHER FOUGHT IN THE WAR”

    • @craigpettifer8568
      @craigpettifer8568 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      You should have at least stated Duncan said it dude 👍

    • @craigpettifer8568
      @craigpettifer8568 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Nufflives Matta yes but he stated that Peter said it so considering the main line was Duncans its an injustice 🤣

    • @jamesyboy4626
      @jamesyboy4626 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@craigpettifer8568 Considering it's under the video that everyone watched then I think they'll know who said what.

    • @craigpettifer8568
      @craigpettifer8568 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jamesyboy4626 thanks for that insight but wasn't really the point I was making dude 🙄

    • @GarrettDenton
      @GarrettDenton 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@craigpettifer8568 we all know who said it, dude

  • @gnizz0021
    @gnizz0021 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1997

    Apparently Apple made some moves against them for the exact reasons Peter gave, but they failed miserably. The iGlove is going strong in 2020, having grown enormously.

    • @manwhotookatit5666
      @manwhotookatit5666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +80

      This deal never happened as duncan pulled off from the deal made in the show and jareth withdrew the patent.. but i glive is still in buisness and still selling

    • @farzadsole3784
      @farzadsole3784 3 ปีที่แล้ว +121

      No wonder everyone hate Apple so much, just because they have been using the bloody "i" doesn't mean they own the letter "i"! I think people around the world should put serious sanctions on Apple products and teach them a good lesson of real and truthful democracy!

    • @NO1jkpg
      @NO1jkpg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      I just saw the show, and i thought both was right Peter and Duncan. Everyone was scared from apple beside Duncan, so funny. I was thinking apple would do it but it would be so strange if they winn. I am glad they did not.

    • @broodjemartini9155
      @broodjemartini9155 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      oh yeah, and Duncan got cold feet and cancelled his investment

    • @tedcrilly46
      @tedcrilly46 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      ok apple lost, but why risk it. a hint of apple going after a potential investment its smarter to walk and keep your money. 9/10 times you'll lose.

  • @korana6308
    @korana6308 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2894

    Duncan is the absolute top lad.
    Love him.

    • @TheZackkary1
      @TheZackkary1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      Yeah he’s my fave, especially when he cracks up. He loves a good laugh. Double Duncan all the way ✊✊

    • @PolitischTourette
      @PolitischTourette 4 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      Me too . I love the guy. He is genuin, honest and fair in his critizisms....... Peter is far too arrogant. Duncan is just being himself.

    • @iranicus
      @iranicus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      Love the looks of the others when he makes an offer, kind of like him giving them the middle finger :3

    • @murtaza-6
      @murtaza-6 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I like Duncan too, Peter seems too rude

    • @Uouttooo
      @Uouttooo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      At least he puts his money where his mouth is instead of chickening out after arguing with Peter.

  • @casperes0912
    @casperes0912 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2287

    I wonder what Peter thinks of the BBC iPlayer

  • @AshPPPPPPPP
    @AshPPPPPPPP 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2231

    I haven’t seen someone as clear and presented well than this guy

    • @RobotronSage
      @RobotronSage 4 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      When he came out with that second invention all the other dragons were wondering how much more this guy could come up with.
      Clearly an inventor who needs help with the business side of things. Wondering how his brand is doing since Duncan took him on?
      Also absolutely loved how Duncans' offer made the dragons turn their head so fast that i'm worried they're suffering from whiplash lol

    • @pablorivera9881
      @pablorivera9881 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      you will be sued by Apple for using the phrase "I haven't..."

    • @AshPPPPPPPP
      @AshPPPPPPPP 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Robotron Sage yes, Lot of credit goes to Duncan he is really good dragon.

    • @martinteece8983
      @martinteece8983 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      How about when skiing and etc

    • @horusreloaded6387
      @horusreloaded6387 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      He even came up with good uses for his glove with speakers

  • @TheJohnCooperShow
    @TheJohnCooperShow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +267

    I love the way Duncan is never contaminated by others opinions.

    • @brianbrooking496
      @brianbrooking496 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      That’s the Scottish way……

  • @ghost06yt23
    @ghost06yt23 4 ปีที่แล้ว +570

    I love it when Duncan said “I’m going to invest”
    Everyone just turns their head to look at him in shock. Absolutely amazing 😂

    • @souljaunt
      @souljaunt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ikr 😂😂

    • @mirjamheijn5214
      @mirjamheijn5214 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      That's the moment they realize: "Oh maybe this is more valuable than I thought!"

    • @hasa63-f8i
      @hasa63-f8i ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wait so how is iglove going?

    • @mikeh2006
      @mikeh2006 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @Hidayat Rehimi still selling well. The court case happened. Apple lost .

    • @hasa63-f8i
      @hasa63-f8i ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mikeh2006 thanks 🙏🏾

  • @sabumiah3421
    @sabumiah3421 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1146

    Good on Duncan for sticking to his guns and believing in him!

    • @nugsruleify
      @nugsruleify 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Spot on mate 😉

    • @i.canalista7718
      @i.canalista7718 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Hes a good man lot of respect

    • @melvindavies933
      @melvindavies933 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Q

    • @bakersmileyface
      @bakersmileyface 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Paid off for him in the end.

    • @darkkegz9213
      @darkkegz9213 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      He stayed quiet so he could invest in him himself without any rebuttals from the other dragons, smart move

  • @evilspeak5702
    @evilspeak5702 4 ปีที่แล้ว +334

    Touker will want 45% of your business in return for a walk past his offices in London, on the opposite side of the road.

    • @KJ-rk1nh
      @KJ-rk1nh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂😂😂

    • @googleuser8740
      @googleuser8740 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Can't have you paupers on the same side of the road making the place look untidy

  • @SiLoMixMaster
    @SiLoMixMaster 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1585

    Bannatyne proving why he is the goat dragon, laughs in the face of an Apple lawsuit while the other dragons were terrified and then takes 40% of the business like it was candy from a baby

  • @justanotherhappyhumanist8832
    @justanotherhappyhumanist8832 4 ปีที่แล้ว +454

    He seemed like a really sweet, intelligent guy. I'm glad Duncan gave him a chance. He's always been one of my favourite dragons. You can tell he is more empathetic than the other ones.

    • @machtnichtsseimann
      @machtnichtsseimann 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Empathy? He was just smarter and more courageous here and wouldn't let any of the other dragons sway him. Duncan's offer didn't seem "empathic"! lol

    • @icantthinkofausername2605
      @icantthinkofausername2605 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@machtnichtsseimann Just in general he tends to be more empathetic, you see this in other episodes as well

    • @Kuroganekisaki
      @Kuroganekisaki 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Ewan Yengi bruh we need a lot more context lol

    • @emookii2619
      @emookii2619 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ewan Yengi please give context to this fellow wonderer

    • @jacobpeters5458
      @jacobpeters5458 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      looking up wikipedia "The Glasgow Ice Cream Wars," I guess the assumption was he was doing something similar. but his ice cream van was not in Glasgow, so.....

  • @shamteddy659
    @shamteddy659 ปีที่แล้ว +126

    Never wanted someone to succeed more than this guy. Awesome lad. Duncan is the best dragon

    • @pinball7113
      @pinball7113 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Duncan pulled out of this deal after the show lol

    • @richkagiso9310
      @richkagiso9310 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes he pulled out but the company is still running 🤣 Net worth is over $2 million ♥️

    • @pinball7113
      @pinball7113 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@richkagiso9310 Okay Big Rich. With a turnover of 125k and him stepping down from the company and withdrawing the patent. Their website is a joke and they have one product🤡. Yeah it's going beautifully for the boy💀🤡

    • @swarnavabanerjee4112
      @swarnavabanerjee4112 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pinball7113 Source trust me bro 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

    • @hakangokhan9434
      @hakangokhan9434 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@pinball7113your mum invested

  • @TheManInBlueFlames
    @TheManInBlueFlames 4 ปีที่แล้ว +440

    Entrepreneur: Talks about patents briefly
    *Camera focuses in on Deborah, who is known for having gripes with patents.*

    • @seamusmcspud5181
      @seamusmcspud5181 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And your point is??

    • @Lauren72382
      @Lauren72382 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@seamusmcspud5181 156 other people understood the point 🙄

    • @lanceanz
      @lanceanz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Professor Pat Pending is once again in the Den.

    • @krissykat6849
      @krissykat6849 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shes not "griping" at all. Shes a smart businesswoman who OF COURSE asks questions about patents.
      This IS a TV show. What do you expect? Dont you know how heavily edited these shows are?
      DUH

    • @dafeef5555
      @dafeef5555 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@krissykat6849 Jesus, look at you. Getting all hot and bothered over a joke. 😂 This is the youtube comment section, what did YOU expect?? Smh.

  • @irishrose90
    @irishrose90 4 ปีที่แล้ว +812

    I love Duncan but love him even more for investing in this guy. His pitch was great and he comes across as a really nice fella. I hope everything worked out.

    • @gooner70_ns
      @gooner70_ns 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Totally agree 👍

    • @jeremylink3489
      @jeremylink3489 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      But they greedy.. thats the problem with all of them.

    • @jhl3653
      @jhl3653 4 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      @@jeremylink3489 I think it is foolish of you to regard all manner of "greed" in such a simplistic way. Without some degree of self-interested "greed," much of what humanity has accomplished over the past few centuries would not have happened. Greed can be a powerful motivator in fueling personal ambition, imagination, enterprise, and adventure. We are as comfortable as we are today, typing comments at each other on the internet on our devices because of the greed and ambition of industrious people.

    • @BiscuiTea
      @BiscuiTea 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Bugsyzante get your grammar in line if you try to hit on a lady over TH-cam, pal

    • @dbergerac9632
      @dbergerac9632 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@jeremylink3489 Risk entitles a reward.

  • @garypheasey4343
    @garypheasey4343 4 ปีที่แล้ว +308

    Great to see Duncan with a pair of balls. The other think they are big players however all worried about Apple ! Well done Duncan.

    • @Alan-nq5jx
      @Alan-nq5jx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is not about big balls mate

    • @k.v.7681
      @k.v.7681 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Not being worried about Apple in that line of work is like walking naked in a house fire. The matters of a trial aren't about being afraid of Apple being right. It's about being afraid of Apple burying you into so much paperwork and legal costs that you go bust before the case ever reaches the stage of floor proceedings. Those lawsuits aren't about resolving a matter of truth in a court of law. They're about grinding you down in a war of attrition on your cash flow before that stage is reached.
      And let's be honest. All five dragons may be millionaires, and astute business people for all I know, but they wil never reach the levels of ressources and expertise Apple has access to. Even combined.

    • @codeXenigma
      @codeXenigma 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@k.v.7681 It was proved that Apple can't trade mark a letter, they lost their claim when they tried so Duncan was right. Or they could sue iPlayer and all others that use the letter i. That would be insane.

  • @banuprakash161
    @banuprakash161 3 ปีที่แล้ว +132

    I don’t know why I was really happy when Duncan said “I totally disagree”

    • @orangewarm1
      @orangewarm1 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      cos Peter is the most arrogant.

    • @possessedslig
      @possessedslig 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He's one the few dragons that will tell Peter he's wrong

  • @RumtumtuggerTB
    @RumtumtuggerTB 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    This is actually one of the best counteroffers an entrepreneur has ever given in the Den.
    So often entrepreneurs are trying to stick to their evaluation and give away less equity. When opening a buy back option, or an equity reduction contingent on sales is the best way to keep the investor on the hook. You don’t insult them by knocking their evaluation and industry knowledge. You project a confidence in your products market potential and show that you know your own worth. It’s a very smart strategy

  • @mrsurprise2294
    @mrsurprise2294 4 ปีที่แล้ว +390

    Deborah face when he made a offer she was expecting him to say I'm oot

  • @heavygustav
    @heavygustav 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1098

    am I the only one who always watches this when they're eating

    • @hphokou
      @hphokou 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      every single time

    • @johnsmith-wx5fb
      @johnsmith-wx5fb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      No because you just read virtually the same comment about 6 comments up. Get some originality.

    • @eightiesboy
      @eightiesboy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I always watch whilst doing number twos

    • @heavygustav
      @heavygustav 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@eightiesboy This is Original

    • @MClove753
      @MClove753 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dixon 😂😂😂 yes wtf

  • @persephone6896
    @persephone6896 4 ปีที่แล้ว +133

    Peter’s gotten over confident from all the clients he gets. sometimes he’s wrong but no one dares say anything . It kinda irritating

    • @vader745
      @vader745 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      clients he gets ?

    • @kennyryan625
      @kennyryan625 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly. Peter was completely off the mark here, and it cost this guy other dragons unfairly

    • @aziris7257
      @aziris7257 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      But Peter is right in this case. He was mistaken in that he specified that this guy will lose the lawsuit because of the 'i'. But he was correct in that Apple will give him a hard time. Duncan find out about this later and cancelled the deal.

    • @pugsterjosh7925
      @pugsterjosh7925 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@aziris7257 and what about BBC iPlayer? Or the Hyundai i30? Or the iTeddy he invested in?

    • @aziris7257
      @aziris7257 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@pugsterjosh7925 BBC iPlayer is a video in demand service, Hyundai i30 is a car, iTeddy is a children's toy. None of these products are consumer telecommunication electronics, which is Apple's main product line. When you talk about legality, you need to understand context. Something that is legal can be illegal under the right context. You can get reparations from someone over something legal, if you can find the right context. This guy is clearly attempting misrepresentation on his product.

  • @ameanasaur
    @ameanasaur 2 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Duncan is really the best Dragon. The guy thinks through everything, asks the right questions and defends his position really well when he knows he's right. I always love it when he messes with Peter.

    • @karenspeidel-cp4nb
      @karenspeidel-cp4nb ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would like you to join Peter in a discussion on business and see how fast you would lose !

  • @youmustbefibbing7376
    @youmustbefibbing7376 4 ปีที่แล้ว +502

    Apple's profit is falling.
    Oops, just infringed Newton's trademark.

    • @rarity2006
      @rarity2006 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Lol oh that's funny and clever

    • @magusxxx
      @magusxxx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Apple already did that when they came out with the Newton. ;)

    • @Jamie-js3qw
      @Jamie-js3qw 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      hahhh they already stole his apple gravity pitch

    • @MrSouvikD
      @MrSouvikD 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Underrated!

    • @vascofmdc
      @vascofmdc 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice one there...

  • @thejuiceweasel
    @thejuiceweasel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +271

    This was around 2014, nowadays, 9 in 5 adults in the UK use a smartphone.

    • @SuperMuneera
      @SuperMuneera 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Sorry to burst your bubble people have been using smartphones since 2011. 2014-2019 the same amount of people were using them.

    • @thejuiceweasel
      @thejuiceweasel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      @@SuperMuneera dude I worked hard for that bubble.

    • @RespectOthers1
      @RespectOthers1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      9 in 5 adults???

    • @SuperMuneera
      @SuperMuneera 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@thejuiceweasel I can tell you're young, probably 22 or less trying to make the rest of us seem old. 2014 was yesterday lol.

    • @thejuiceweasel
      @thejuiceweasel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@SuperMuneera almost, mid-thirties, but I take it as a compliment :D

  • @power2084
    @power2084 4 ปีที่แล้ว +343

    This is 2020, iGloves selling well, no problem from Apple.

    • @stepbackandthink
      @stepbackandthink 4 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      @Luc Nonsense. Their last accounts showed a turnover of over £11m with a net profit of half a million. Do your homework.

    • @SkamGame
      @SkamGame 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      ​@Luc You're looking at the wrong company.
      His name is Rajan Jerath and not Simon Jeffrey Glover.

    • @pannyspirou3857
      @pannyspirou3857 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Dormant cock

    • @trs8696
      @trs8696 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      yeah mate they're doing brilliantly! Companies House has them on a retained profit of 472,000 GBP for FY 18/19, up on 175,000 GBP from the year before. Definitely a rare example of a Dragon's Den success story. Seemed like a nice guy too, good on him.

    • @tedcrilly46
      @tedcrilly46 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@SkamGame Wait, a guy called Glover sells gloves?

  • @mschr2880
    @mschr2880 2 ปีที่แล้ว +111

    Amazing how confidently Peter can put out so much BS, with no legal background whatsoever.

    • @Jason-un9ps
      @Jason-un9ps 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He’s a rich douche who thinks money and high paid lawyers can get you whatever you want.

    • @SlytherinsConspiracies
      @SlytherinsConspiracies 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He does it because hes in the tech industry and doesn't like competition, he successfully poisened at least 2 dragons against this guy here and insisted that Apple could destroy it. It simply wasn't the case. Good thing business people are disagreeable by nature, Duncs really got a good bargain there, 40% of a middling company or 30% of a growing and successful one.

    • @HughMungus11
      @HughMungus11 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      In this case, Peter was absolutely right about potential infringement upon a registered trademark

    • @ed-7135
      @ed-7135 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@HughMungus11 You would think so, but Peter was proven wrong. Apple tried to sue for the rights and it was thrown out, the judge told them they couldn't claim trademark rights over the letter "i".

    • @HughMungus11
      @HughMungus11 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ed-7135 What is the title of the case and in which court and when was this decided?

  • @peterjones3445
    @peterjones3445 4 ปีที่แล้ว +232

    Glad this lad managed to get an investment. Peter nearly caused all the other dragons to lose confidence and it was all based on a ridiculous premise.

    • @RealmRabbit
      @RealmRabbit 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I don't think it's THAT ridiculous... I mean, it is a trend that Apple basically started and one would assume they'd have some recourse against people who just try to look at that trend and trademark a bunch of things in order to demand that Apple pay them a ton of money in order to have the name...
      I just think of all those people in MMORPG video games who immediately will make characters that have highly desirable names like "Sephiroth" so they can reserve it until someone pays them hundreds of dollars for the name from someone who had no plans to use it...
      Like, this isn't AS scummy because the guy is obviously using what he protected, but still...

    • @TheGauges420
      @TheGauges420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@RealmRabbit it is THAT ridiculous though. iHome, iPlayer, there are many brands with iXxxx as their name, and they aren't getting beaten down by Apple. As a matter of fact iHome is essentially all just knockoff Apple stuff for the most part, and they still don't have any issues.

    • @RealmRabbit
      @RealmRabbit 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheGauges420 Been awhile since I posted this but skimming over it I think I get what this was about. And yeah, I'd say that it would be an issue even if Apple isn't suing all the people who use their naming gimmick because it's possible that they might only bother suing a company if it is exceptionally successful and I don't think any examples you listed are so successful that they are household names (unlike the iPad or iPhone which basically everyone knows about). Like, the iPlayer without looking it up I have no idea if this is like an MP3 or a DVD player... And the iHome I similarly don't know what it is other than I can infer from the name it is probably something to do with smart devices scattered around your home or something... These products are so obscure and if you are pitching a product to an investor then an obscure product won't be big enough to get Apple's attention isn't what they are looking to invest in... So it's going to have issues if it is either too popular or not popular enough (for obvious reasons).

    • @kennyryan625
      @kennyryan625 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Exactly. Peter was ridiculously wrong, and totally ignorant of copyright law. Apple don’t own the letter i. Ever heard of BBC iPlayer?

  • @msstarlight4770
    @msstarlight4770 4 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    From reading earlier comments, I'm pleased to see that this guy did really well. He seemed like a genuinely nice person, & I think he did a good job of not letting Peter get to him.

    • @johnj3577
      @johnj3577 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Careful, you used the letter i

    • @msstarlight4770
      @msstarlight4770 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnj3577 Ahhaha! Good one!
      😄😄😄👍👍

  • @Technicallyimright
    @Technicallyimright 4 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    So if I create a business with the word “pizza” in it and get it trademarked, Pizza Hut could sue me? That’s bollocks. I think Peter Jones was wrong on this occasion.

    • @kennyryan625
      @kennyryan625 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yup. Peter was dead wrong, apple can’t copyright a letter of the alphabet. But sadly the other dragons were too ignorant to understand that - except for Duncan

    • @aziris7257
      @aziris7257 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He wasn't. Duncan learned this the hard way. Peter was only wrong because he specified a trademark issue, but it is actually a misrepresentation issue, not trademark.

    • @Technicallyimright
      @Technicallyimright 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@aziris7257 so he was wrong then.

    • @aziris7257
      @aziris7257 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Technicallyimright He was wrong about it being a trademark issue, because it's a misrepresentation issue, not trademark. But he wasn't wrong about Apple giving this guy a C&D and having to change his tune once the lawyer's letter came in.

  • @paulcarlin3985
    @paulcarlin3985 4 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    Peter invested in "I teddy" in a previous season. No complaints about Apple that day

    • @petermarshall2256
      @petermarshall2256 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      That probably why he knows if apple would or not

    • @anc1721
      @anc1721 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      lol

    • @Jack-it2pe
      @Jack-it2pe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      sounds like he learnt a lesson

  • @m.i.5381
    @m.i.5381 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Duncan is very smart and the most humane businessman. He knew the "i" could not be trade marked, and hence the offer. Also he could have ripped off the entrepreneur, but still played fair by allowing negotiation of share percentage. What a great man Duncan ! 👏👏👏

  • @chrismills7703
    @chrismills7703 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Duncan’s my favorite because there’s a 50% chance he rips into the person making the pitch and a 50% chance he goes to bat for them and argues with the other dragons about it and there’s just no way to tell which it’s gonna be

  • @Luisvarelaaa
    @Luisvarelaaa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I don't know this guy, but you can genuinely tell he has a great character, his pitch and business knowledge were incredible.
    I wish him, his business and Duncan's collaboration the very best.

  • @TonkaJay
    @TonkaJay 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    That was one of the best pitches. So mellow.

  • @nt30001
    @nt30001 4 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    I knew Kelly was going to say "I'm out" before the lift door opened

    • @ScottOSaurus
      @ScottOSaurus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Thank You!!!! Everyone get's on Jenny but Kelly has never made an offer and is an arrogant crow!

    • @ScottOSaurus
      @ScottOSaurus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Duvaughn Kelly I agree, she’s arrogant and crass for no reason. Her interior design portfolio is ugly as hell too.

    • @Uouttooo
      @Uouttooo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly. I can't say I have seen her made an offer. Even Jenny has made a number of offers.

  • @om3g4z3r0
    @om3g4z3r0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    When you deal with people pretending to be smart you learn to recognize actually smart people, like this guy, so effortless yet huge performance.

  • @sadikmeah4057
    @sadikmeah4057 3 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    Everyone looks at Duncan "HOW DARE YOU IGNORE OUR LORD AND MASTER, PETER JONES"

    • @dakoimarax9456
      @dakoimarax9456 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol

    • @leopardgeckocrazy
      @leopardgeckocrazy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I miss having Duncan on the show. He felt like the only person who didn't immediately take Peter at his word.

  • @Spencerlayne
    @Spencerlayne 4 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    Should be investing in this young man. He has entrepreneur written all over him

    • @krissykat6849
      @krissykat6849 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Then go invest in him. Dont tell others what to do with their hard earned money.

    • @patricksongore
      @patricksongore 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@krissykat6849why so angry ? Wife not touching you at home? 😂

  • @hugoschkiglitz
    @hugoschkiglitz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I love how Duncan is an independent thinker who marches to the beat of his own drum in all these series. Lenny is most assuredly not. In this particular episode everyone caved once Peter said something.. everyone but Duncan. 🏆

  • @simonrodgers3278
    @simonrodgers3278 4 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Did anyone remind Peter about his Investment many years ago in the iTeddy?....... Sold millions... No suit frome Apple?... Creator following Dragons Den in 2006 now 90 Million Net worth...

    • @gullibleseagull3996
      @gullibleseagull3996 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Peter's face throughout screams he can't wait to steal the idea.

    • @simonrodgers3278
      @simonrodgers3278 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gullibleseagull3996 I don't think Peter Jones likes the idea of iTeddy having to wear a glove in winter.....

    • @simonfarrimond3664
      @simonfarrimond3664 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@simonrodgers3278 its possible I don't know but maybe it was apple you supplied the tech in the teddy the screen and apps etc I could be wrong

    • @gullibleseagull3996
      @gullibleseagull3996 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@simonfarrimond3664 I'm pretty sure Apple had nothing to do with iTeddy

    • @gullibleseagull3996
      @gullibleseagull3996 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@simonrodgers3278 I'm more disappointed in Deborah following suit, she should've known better.

  • @leinardesteves3987
    @leinardesteves3987 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Duncan looks the scariest but also is always the guy that gives someone a break

  • @adrodog17
    @adrodog17 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The amount of times the dragons have berated people for not knowing their stuff and here they are giving him completely wrong information about trademarks. Duncan was the only one who trusted himself instead of listening to Peter

  • @perhennung
    @perhennung 4 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    Duncan is good, not so greedy as some others.

    • @SirSmilingPhantom
      @SirSmilingPhantom 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lofoten he did just get 40%...

    • @karenspeidel1901
      @karenspeidel1901 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      He just invested in CHINA ! That's almost immoral!

  • @End_Domestic_Violence
    @End_Domestic_Violence 4 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    Damn, that's just sunk my idea of a Bluetooth sock...

    • @personalpc7439
      @personalpc7439 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      And my idea of a bluetooth scarf....damn!

    • @thedunyadoneya2628
      @thedunyadoneya2628 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      And my idea of a blue tooth...

    • @zwarst
      @zwarst 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Bluetooth shoes is were it’s at,
      iGo Shoe..?

    • @PrestigeWorldWide179
      @PrestigeWorldWide179 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or my idea of blue tooth glass but I guess I won't name it anything with an i

    • @catman4471
      @catman4471 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      There's still a market for it to those who practice the leg behind head yoga position.

  • @johns1187
    @johns1187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The look of astonishment at the end from Kelly and Deborah had to be rewatched a dozen times. Kelly saw the camera and quickly looked back.

  • @fiiessandoh6146
    @fiiessandoh6146 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Don't you just love Duncan.A calculated risk taker. Quite an impressive entrepreneur. "Its a democracy".

  • @SMlITHY
    @SMlITHY 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Following the video i've actually gone ahead and ordered a pair. They're great value and look nice, but more so, happy to support the entrepreneur as he seems genuine and really knowledgeable.

    • @kennyryan625
      @kennyryan625 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I must get some too

    • @peace4045
      @peace4045 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I want one too so that I can talk with my hand.

  • @LoFiBeatz-YT
    @LoFiBeatz-YT 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Jenny wasn't in this episode, she was out before filming.

  • @RobertBoyle11
    @RobertBoyle11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Apple: IPhone
    Raj: IGlove
    Jenny: I'M Out

  • @bleachchugtidy2178
    @bleachchugtidy2178 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I'd actually use the gloves if they made it in leather, it's illegal to use the phone on a horse or cart and most riders wear gloves all year round so it would be incredibly convenient seeing as you can ride using one hand but don't risk having to drop anything if you need to get control quickly.

    • @dralanblacker8471
      @dralanblacker8471 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Why don’t you use a Bluetooth earpiece?

    • @dralanblacker8471
      @dralanblacker8471 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bleach Chugtidy they do them in leather on eBay

  • @corpgov
    @corpgov 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    That Kelly lady seems like a barrel of laughs. If money buys you happiness, somebody should tell her

  • @MatteoPrezioso
    @MatteoPrezioso 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Such a great episode, I love this guy, so humble, polite, prepared, and smart.

  • @jordanbolt5186
    @jordanbolt5186 4 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    Always eat when watching the den

    • @ms7857
      @ms7857 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Alright mate, will do

    • @stitcha123
      @stitcha123 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yawn.

  • @Conannnnn
    @Conannnnn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    He speaks very well. Impressive entrepreneur. Sometimes in life you have to take risks and this was a calculated risk imo. If you don't take such risks, you won't get far in life, especially when 75k doesn't mean anything to Duncan's wealth. Àll the best.

  • @Derek.Joseph
    @Derek.Joseph 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    For anyone wondering, here's an update:
    After this aired, his website completely crashed from the amount of visits, including consumers from Canada and Australia.
    Lord Alan Sugar took to twitter agreeing with Peter Jones, one of many who made their opinions known on social media.
    As of 2019, Apple just applied for a patent for a new "smart glove".

    • @simonbecker6070
      @simonbecker6070 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Thanks for the update. Imagine today...where gloves are essential thanks to Corona.....I bet they are making a fortune

    • @keywade2452
      @keywade2452 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Glad to hear this guy is doing well!

    • @magusxxx
      @magusxxx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The smart glove is for their VR system they've been continually working on. (And don't let them fool youth haven't.) This would have no impact on this guy selling his iGlove.

  • @jordanmorales8610
    @jordanmorales8610 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    “Of course I can! It’s a Democracy, my father fought in the war’” lol!

  • @ianrae1546
    @ianrae1546 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The others absolutely shat it when they thought that Apple would shove a spanner in the works.
    Good on Duncan for having the balls to put his money where his mouth is.
    Absolutely chuffed for the entrepreneur. His pitch was brilliant.

  • @yankis.
    @yankis. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    He is so chill. I like him.

  • @jcanyiam8309
    @jcanyiam8309 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    11:19 the expression on Debrogh's face is a CLASSIC!!!

    • @kennyryan625
      @kennyryan625 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      She realised she had been wrong

  • @Iburn247
    @Iburn247 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    "I CAN disagree it's a democracy"😂

    • @pedroamaralcouto
      @pedroamaralcouto 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So, he thinks it's not a democracy.

  • @bitmaster2000
    @bitmaster2000 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    *4 dragons disapproving*
    *1 dragon making a deal*
    4 dragons: "It's a good deal!"

  • @Baisemannen
    @Baisemannen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great to see Bannatyne do a deal. Hope it all worked out for them 🙂 That Bluetooth glove is quite clever as well.

  • @christopheralston4521
    @christopheralston4521 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    When Duncan said I'll make you an offer everyone looked at him like wtf lol

  • @isaahmadi8271
    @isaahmadi8271 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Got to say, Duncan is really nice and sympathetic since his new appearance on the show

  • @Alex-cw3rz
    @Alex-cw3rz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    What Peter said about the "I" in Iglove is utter bollocks, they do not have a copyright on I, it is utterly ridiculous he even said that. You cannot copyright all words with I in and not just that, Apple is American, this isn't sold in America either. Peter is wrong in multiple ways it's embarrassing that he said that, and they kept it in.

    • @XX-qj9sj
      @XX-qj9sj 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@devnull08 wrong, Apple has already lost legal battles over other companies using an i prefix in their name. It's why Apple's newer products don't use it. Apple music, Apple Watch, Apple TV, they changed their product naming for a reason.

    • @Locutus
      @Locutus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Apple TV was originally going to be called iTV, but since iTV was already trademarked by some unknown company here in the UK, they renamed it to Apple TV.

    • @dralanblacker8471
      @dralanblacker8471 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      They can apply for invalidation of the trademark under the relative infringement rules. And they would win I agree with peter. It doesn’t matter anyway because they would file such a massive case the adverse costs would be millions even if they withdrew the objection or invalidation petition.

    • @ishmyboy
      @ishmyboy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@XX-qj9sj Thats not the point, they know they can't win but will run you dry over legal costs, they will drag it out as long as possible or offer a buyout.

    • @Hi-kq1vi
      @Hi-kq1vi 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not at all-it was dumb of this guy not to come up with a name that couldn't be confused with the market leaders, some might say he did it deliberately to try to piggyback off their name to maximise sales. Thing is Apple will have no issue dropping millions in court fees & this guy is there begging for 75k-the court costs would cripple him even if he won.

  • @jf1341
    @jf1341 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Duncan is the man! Even the way he negotiated with the guy without messing about, like Peter tends about

  • @LadooCrew
    @LadooCrew 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Duncan looks out for genuine talent and helps people unlike the others.

  • @ToonishPlays
    @ToonishPlays 4 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    imagine being a man worth £500m by making his money in telecomunications and not knowing that iphone is owned by cisco and they rent the usage to apple

  • @WetLettuce.
    @WetLettuce. ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love how the guy says thank you and Duncan is like “no problem.” 😂

  • @AStrategyGameDev
    @AStrategyGameDev 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    If you have a trademark, and its granted, there is a statue of limitation to challange it. once thats over. its safe.

    • @HughMungus11
      @HughMungus11 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's not true, in Polaroid Corp. v. Polarad Elect. Corp., 287 F.2d 492 (2d Cir. 1961) opposition was overruled by the examiner of the USPTO but the plaintiff was still able to bring suit. 15 U.S.C. 1064 provides a legal basis for cancellation of registration of a trademark

  • @veiko23
    @veiko23 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thank you Duncan, you are only normal Dragon there... without you, the innovations would be destroyed!

  • @borkingdoggouwuuwuw
    @borkingdoggouwuuwuw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Gloves off to this guy for such a warm and iTouching pitch

  • @thegadgetzone
    @thegadgetzone 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I really like him man.

  • @strangemachines_
    @strangemachines_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hope he’s still doing well what a champion of a guy one best pitches I’ve seen. Duncan saw his talent.

  • @flamingmonkays
    @flamingmonkays 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Duncan: I have to say I disagree.
    Peter: You can't disagree.
    Duncan: I can disagree. It's a democracy. My father fought in the war.
    😂

  • @MartinKincl1993
    @MartinKincl1993 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I wonder what percentage of Duncan's reasoning behind the offer was the delight of rubbing it in Peter's face. I love it.

  • @SilvaaFabio
    @SilvaaFabio 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    So all the other Dragons were afraid of Apple when this dude had a trademark already? Ok, Duncan "Cocaine" Banatyne laughs in the face of Apple

  • @meganvincent5381
    @meganvincent5381 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm glad he took Duncan's deal. I really liked that guy

  • @benmben1
    @benmben1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The phone in the gloves aspect would be perfect for a golfing glove.

  • @seannawhilby6572
    @seannawhilby6572 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    If you listen carefully you can hear Jenny saying shes out

  • @sayyourmind1
    @sayyourmind1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The most impressive pitch I've seen on the den so far......this guy has a good business head on his shoulder

  • @perysima
    @perysima 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I like Duncan. He is a solid individual. Good on you, Duncan.

  • @lukascoula2530
    @lukascoula2530 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Jenny:
    I'm crystallised blood commonly found in the foot and for that reason, I'm gout.

    • @retrorecharge86
      @retrorecharge86 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The only one time I've laughed at these jokes, well done

    • @ifwecouldvote
      @ifwecouldvote 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This joke is older than Duncan ffs.

    • @BenjaminGoose
      @BenjaminGoose 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Congrats on copy-pasting something someone else came up with.

    • @pannyspirou3857
      @pannyspirou3857 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha

    • @lukascoula2530
      @lukascoula2530 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BenjaminGoose I made it up actually. You silly goose

  • @jimm3334
    @jimm3334 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    hats off to duncan always helps people what i like about him, kind man, world would be a better place if they were all like duncan

  • @VanlifewithAlan
    @VanlifewithAlan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I wonder how many people here offering legal opinions know anything about the law?

    • @boilerhousegarage
      @boilerhousegarage 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's slander. You'll be hearing from my solicitor!

    • @VanlifewithAlan
      @VanlifewithAlan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@boilerhousegarage He is just rang me John. The cheque is in the post!

    • @psoteriou3884
      @psoteriou3884 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There's a lot of highly qualified armchair lawyers right here with our learned friends.

  • @FluteGnome
    @FluteGnome 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This wasn’t just about the product, this was about the individuals ability to innovate, which had Duncan interested.

  • @WasntYourFaultYouHaveToLetMeGo
    @WasntYourFaultYouHaveToLetMeGo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Actually, Apple stopped using the i wording in their products as they were having legal trouble with the people who got to them first.
    Such as the iTV being the Apple TV.
    The iWatch being Apple Watch.

  • @Asif-kh-n9r
    @Asif-kh-n9r 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Nobody:
    Duncan Bannatyne: My father fought in the war!

    • @jessec3663
      @jessec3663 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂😂😂

    • @PwnZombie
      @PwnZombie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Peter would have joined the British ‘Free’ Corps...

    • @chrismulgrew7710
      @chrismulgrew7710 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Legend is Duncan, so is his dad 🇬🇧

  • @jackhardy606
    @jackhardy606 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    'Would you like to try the product?'
    Jenny to her 2 sprapping lads up North: I'm off out

  • @mohammedadam4253
    @mohammedadam4253 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love how duncan didnt share his thoughts when he read his trademark to be the only dragon remaining

  • @kristiantucker5449
    @kristiantucker5449 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That f.u at 13:10. That cheeky ass smile only he can pull off is just pure class

  • @praveeshachapman677
    @praveeshachapman677 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Duncan's always been the best dragon. Not necessarily the richest, but sees value where others don't and doesn't brush round the edges.

    • @garymardle2120
      @garymardle2120 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He is the richest look up his net worth.

  • @rongorehove
    @rongorehove 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The entrepreneur’s grace and politeness is so infectious! Glad Duncan stood up for him.

  • @benmben1
    @benmben1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I had gloves that could be used on a touch screen about 12 years ago that were all 1 colour, they’re not new.

    • @lizclegg7556
      @lizclegg7556 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      If you actually watch the pitch you will see that he acknowledges that there are other gloves, the difference between his and theirs is the colouring on the pads.

    • @lavettemcfeeters6216
      @lavettemcfeeters6216 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Liz Clegg I have bought several pair of gloves that do the same thing and the tips are the exact same as the rest of the glove. Same color etc. Walmart has them for $5 and this was several years ago that I bought them.

    • @benmben1
      @benmben1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Liz Clegg yeah that’s not true Liz. I had all black gloves that did the same thing, do you want to buy some magic beans?

    • @magusxxx
      @magusxxx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't think he worded it correctly. I think he meant to say it was a different material. A few years ago all those gloves started using a newer material which allowed you to do the twisting and zooming to perfection. Before you could do it but it was very cumbersome and not as accurate as it is now. I remember when these type of gloves first came out and they had one finger with a little metal bit on it.

  • @ibrahimmohamed8314
    @ibrahimmohamed8314 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Jenny: "I have the rights for iOUT, so I'm OUT"

  • @asdreww
    @asdreww 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    He seems a really nice guy, I hope he makes it

  • @JesusCommando
    @JesusCommando 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    What a fantastically well presented young man! I really hope he’s doing well for himself

    • @Samthebritishgent
      @Samthebritishgent 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He is

    • @asdfq43a56fds
      @asdfq43a56fds 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Samthebritishgent Went out of business almost 10 years years ago buddy. This is a nothing product and only selling because of the brand recognition with the 'i'

  • @olaraay
    @olaraay 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    11:18 that head turn both at the same time reminds me of those xfactor shots before they come on stage. name of the group Dragons.