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  • @lilaabalos600
    @lilaabalos600 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My husband n I went to vegas this last weekend. Ur system works. I commend u. First time I played the craps using the dice 1 n 3. I threw the dice softly hitting on the space between passline n the back wall. The stickman told me 3 times to hit the back wall when I throw the dice but I ignored him. The minimum was $15 so I just bet $15 each on 4 9 n 10 when it was cfc turn to throw the dice. I got the points 3 times and I was throwing the dice for a long time. The boss said I'm a monster thrower. One player said I'm a dragon. Don't know what they meant but I kept playing w joy. Finally, the 7 came out. My $100 won over $600. I was so happy. The key of the crap game is to control how to throw the dice bec it works. Know that I enjoy all ur videos. Birdie of Cali

  • @drazsonmayberry5432
    @drazsonmayberry5432 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the refresher course.
    Great to hear you coaching again.
    Keep it up!

  • @crapsplayer
    @crapsplayer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you, BT for all that you do, man. You inspire us all, Brother. TY for these!!!! PLEASE keep them coming!

  • @cherylbryson8005
    @cherylbryson8005 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bone Thrower, I just watched your video , Its All About the Dice. This video is by far the Best you have ever made in my opinion! You gave me SO much to consider in my practice sessions including my dice set. And, the video on playing the short game made me realize being greedy is NOT the way to having a “Winning Session”. Both videos are powerful . Thank you.
    Texas Granny

  • @danielsargent208
    @danielsargent208 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    wow I'll try this one evening this week. like the way you press inside for higher return with less number of throws. Again thanks for sharing your wisdom/knowledge

  • @sledgenail-it4269
    @sledgenail-it4269 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Ahhhh, it is like I can breath again. Great Videos Bone Thrower. Thanks.

  • @therealecho930
    @therealecho930 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have really enjoyed all of your videos BT! This one especially (just came back from Mohegan Sun a winner thanks to the 66 inside). I enjoy all of your videos, but really like the strategy specific ones like this. More things to practice! Thanks again!

  • @bucky90269
    @bucky90269 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Damn that is an interesting way to play the inside. Never thought to play it that short, but it makes sense. Inside was one of the 1st strategies that I messed around with, but I got away from playing it after a couple of rough outings. After this video I think I may try the inside/short game strategy on my next session. Thanks BT!

  • @mattgroves8895
    @mattgroves8895 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hello bt, I really never new how to play the game. YOU have taught me so much. I really enjoy your vids. I dont have a casino with craps table, but maybe soon, (new harras coming soon)..So I played just walking up to a table and throwing like an idiot. At least now I can play and pull my bets down playing a short game. I never could win before, but now I feel I have a better chance and will get better as time goes on. Keep the vids coming, your the best, thankyou so much!!!

  • @thespooneytube
    @thespooneytube 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Good video BT
    I used to be in the greedy gang.
    But since I have playing short game. I walk away with a profit. A lot of small wins adds up.

  • @vad1210
    @vad1210 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have been watching you since day 1 man and I enjoy everything that you have taught each of us that watch your videos. It would be great to throw dice with you sometime. My SOR went from average 5-8 now to 14-15 on average with separate dice sets and grips. I have now become a winning craps player with your videos, I appreciate it buddy and Thank you.

  • @SteveHandlebar
    @SteveHandlebar 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    steady play of the 6-4 2-1 set is working great. Keep the videos coming, I'll try this system and report my luck

  • @junkmail3466
    @junkmail3466 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That is super advice.... Too many people are consumed with the greed factor, trying to make the big hit ...

  • @erdnahaes6038
    @erdnahaes6038 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    could see the glimmer in your eyes when you described winning and the vibe, the energy, the adrenaline.... sometimes I lose my throw because i'm(and everyone) so pumped up after 6-7 throws....

  • @astrosjer822
    @astrosjer822 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Inside the Casino and the Road gambler footage is incredible. Amazing

  • @natedoglara
    @natedoglara 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the video Bone, keep them coming buddy. . . .

  • @dannyvazquez9437
    @dannyvazquez9437 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Hey Mark, your vids are awesome, this one being my favorite, saw it when you uploaded it the first time, I have used it as my betting paradise make me a consistent winner, your #1 in my book!

    • @sirauloto1
      @sirauloto1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      That all it is discipline,I wish I can do that...but Thanks anyway Bon I try very have next time

  • @TigerCraps
    @TigerCraps 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thanks for another good video bone thrower. the caesar's palace video by road gambler was also really good quality. it shows that its rare to see bets being pulled down due to greed, but you can see how much quarter chips get repossessed by the casino when the seven outs come.

  • @jibblyjump
    @jibblyjump 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Like the idea of pulling them chips down. Going to work that into my practice routine.

  • @brianjohnson4301
    @brianjohnson4301 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd love to see the Gunslinger throwing ASAP. Thanks, BT for all you do.

  • @tomjones8267
    @tomjones8267 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    BT first comment I want to say I watch every video your awesome. I built my own table like yours about 2 months ago bin shooting a lot of your and dangerous arms throws bin doing good up to about a SOR of 12 to 15 on average. Thanks, went to the casino first time yesterday used your 53 32 stack grip cut edge throw great session 11 9's made money and got out keep up the great work.

  • @thecatmanful
    @thecatmanful 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Don't worry about the haters if they hate you that means you're doing a great job I love to dominate what are today you work real hard to be a good shooter you love the game you know everything about it it will be a pleasure to see you more and more your tapes you improve my game 100% I don't win every single day but I went enough to cover all my losses

  • @zachz3493
    @zachz3493 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey BT! Thought learning to throw dice consistantly would be easy. ITs NoT!!! Im getting better now..almost gave up on it. Went to the table other night and almost hit the all twice in one roll. Keep those vids coming.

  • @coreybussey1639
    @coreybussey1639 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I still play $200 on 4,5,9,10 4 hit score and I'm out I average $720 to over $1000. Great video BT keep them coming

  • @4greno807
    @4greno807 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What you said in the first 2 minutes was priceless BT I’m guilty of that I played a 66 inside and used your 4/10 hit method for 100 won 1500 in 30-40 minutes and then lost all of it back but what I cashed in all bc of the lack of discipline but wanted to share that now I’m gonna finish watching this video and following the page keep up the great work and thank you for all the GAME you give me 👎🏾 to the Haters

  • @gerardc9477
    @gerardc9477 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks to your $66 inside, I have gone from a constant loser to a constant winner! On my last trip I won 5 out of 6 times. Thanks B.T. I am a fan of the Short Game.

  • @millerscustomwoodproducts4638
    @millerscustomwoodproducts4638 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’ve been using your 66 inside betting for a long time now since I first saw you do it. Sometimes I go 96 across for 3-4 hits then down to $12/6-8..... when I’m doing better I go 160 across for 3 hits then down to just a 6-8 and collect/press/pull down from there..... it’s a good way to make money and minimize your exposure to risk. Thanks for all you do BT!

  • @bplouthen
    @bplouthen 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Mark, great videos! using some things I’ve picked up from you ( and a lot of practice) I started using 1/5 3/5 with the flip at the tables recently and rolled for a little over an hour! Im sure you’ve tried it but you should definitely give it a throw if you have a chance.

  • @tomshuppert2637
    @tomshuppert2637 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always a pleasure class act

  • @allphasemobility5496
    @allphasemobility5496 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    No lie, you’re shit works! I pull down my bets and keep rolling for the bonus money!

  • @thomasparsell1645
    @thomasparsell1645 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Would love to see the gunslinger system and throw one day. Like always your videos are great. Love the fish tank sound in the background. It’s relaxing I wouldn’t ever leave my man cave lol 😂

    • @hopemakay
      @hopemakay 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bring on the gunslinger!!... I think I may have been able to back engineer it, based on how the dice are coming through the air and how they are landing, from this and the previous video.... however looking forward to seeing the actual throw.

    • @thomasparsell1645
      @thomasparsell1645 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      hopemakay yea it’s a hard way set my guess. When I throw good throws I get a pile of Hardaways. Then you just bet the place/buy and Hardaway numbers and go at it. I use a 4 finger grip. Hard to master. 2 years and i now see the results. The short game is where I found great success

  • @danielsargent208
    @danielsargent208 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    love the lesson

  • @allphasemobility5496
    @allphasemobility5496 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are so right I never paid much attention to how other people that until recently I’ve been watching the professionals that gamble where I gamble and it turns out they’re not professionals at all they just like to donate their money!

  • @fatputtsgolf
    @fatputtsgolf 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I haven't seen you in a while. Welcome back if you've been away.

  • @gdogkeepemrolling3257
    @gdogkeepemrolling3257 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another great video your the man BT I do believe I will use this strategy if I decide to throw but on random rollers I’ll martingale the any 7 for 25 rolls and nope I won’t reach table max goin that high,how often you think I’ll lose that martingale?

  • @wiggdog
    @wiggdog 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been watching thoses Road Gamblers video too.Guys at the end hits all tall and all and wins about 15,000 with some of the guys winning in excess of 10,000!

  • @johnhong3249
    @johnhong3249 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    66 inside is the most applicable video for most players as it's reachable 96 across there's a little bit burdensome for average players

  • @rogerl8488
    @rogerl8488 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Now kinda confused. Other vids you have use betting pass line not working the come out numbers what if I rolled a 7? I loose... what set are you throwing?

  • @richardleposa217
    @richardleposa217 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    When you release the gunslinger ; if your dice set and throw are good; would you bet 5 and9 for $10.00 each and hop the 6 and8 for $3.00 each ?

  • @kendrickrichard1720
    @kendrickrichard1720 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This holds true!!! Gambling displine and money management

  • @RollenwithMrLopez
    @RollenwithMrLopez 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Always great information... when I’m at the table.. I take at least 15 seconds to set my dice.. and focus on where I’m throwing.. everyone looks at me like I’m crazy lol.. but I land what I need to land! 🎲🎲👍🏽

    • @chrisp5002
      @chrisp5002 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's a long time to set your dice. I can set my dice in under 5, and then zone in to where I want to land it. IF you take too long to set, you'll eventually get told.

    • @RollenwithMrLopez
      @RollenwithMrLopez 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yah I guess I’m kinda anal about it.. but I want it to be perfect.. on NYE I was in Vegas.. I rolled at least 15-18 times before craping out.. I was pretty excited..

    • @natedoglara
      @natedoglara 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RollenwithMrLopez take your time like u r until something is said. I took my time didn't really count how long it took to set dice the other night and nothing was said. i was shooting in line throw from the back, made one guy a lot of money in the field, lol. I was just betting pass line wanted to try new throw. 5,4-5,4 5 on top 4 facing you. Landed on the come area at the C, if i went further back the dice would bounce off the table. I threw for over 30 mins. many 2's, 10's 5's 9's, 3's. 2's and 10's a lot. . .couple 6's no 8's really and no 4's. I did focus on my landing after they bounced off table 3-4 times when i started. they might of got mad but it was good after that, the guy kept passing dice to me.

    • @RollenwithMrLopez
      @RollenwithMrLopez 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wow that’s freken great.. yah rolling for 30 minutes would be pretty great.. with max odds.. and hitting point after point!

    • @Coolguy-ny5nl
      @Coolguy-ny5nl 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Could you plz tell What dice set or sets you use?

  • @JB-iq2pi
    @JB-iq2pi 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your videos! Thanks
    So after you pull you bets down, and you're still rolling, do you make any other bets?

  • @tonyhernandez5686
    @tonyhernandez5686 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'll take your advice on pulling my bets down after 3 hits. However, if I'm still shooting the dice, I think I'll go to 1 unit each on the inside #'s and press and collect until I 7 out, just to keep playing.

  • @doobiehowser01
    @doobiehowser01 ปีที่แล้ว

    Quick question: What if the casino makes you play a pass line bet in order to shoot? Thanks for your time and videos! All of your content is amazing!

  • @sledgenail-it4269
    @sledgenail-it4269 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would love to see the gunslinger throw.

  • @austinwinston684
    @austinwinston684 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your voice is very relaxing. Have you ever thought about doing narration, audiobooks, etc? Where is your accent from?

  • @107glen
    @107glen 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tbh I need that lil pep talk. Let the greed go & get in for the short game.

  • @lashaunholland5050
    @lashaunholland5050 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dr. BoneZone lol that's the nickname i gave you lol. Awesome content man keep the videos coming.. I had a question if you were at a casino just for the weekend how would you bet? In alot of your videos you talk about the short game which takes time an patience but if you only have 2 days how would you bet? Thanks

  • @jaycejade
    @jaycejade 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    BT, what is your favorite dice set to use in a casino?

  • @carpetcowboy58
    @carpetcowboy58 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Keep track of how much you leave on the table when you 7-out. When your up 200 but leave 240 on the table you'll understand the benefits of the short game. Don't like taking the bets down when things are going your way? Think of the balance of the shoot as practice under real world conditions (bets in your way, slow dealers, noise, grumpy boxman, etc.).

  • @hopemakay
    @hopemakay 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    love your videos and have a lot of respect. A couple quick questions please. what if your first 4 or 5 throws would've been 4s and 10s and craps numbers? After you get the 3 hits do keep playing with or without odds on your pass line bet; which you can't take down?

    • @hopemakay
      @hopemakay 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No disrespect..... but my questions have absolutely nothing to do with chasing numbers.

    • @millerscustomwoodproducts4638
      @millerscustomwoodproducts4638 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @hopemakay in his original vid he pulled everything down including odds on the passline and just plays for the passline flat bet until it hits or 7’s out....

    • @hopemakay
      @hopemakay 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Miller's Custom Wood Products ..... thank for the response it is appreciated...... however I would still like or appreciate an answer to my main question which was what do you do if you start off throwing several rolls of 4s and 10s and or craps numbers how long do you stay in it? or do you just keep rolling to try to hit the inside numbers or would it be better to go 96 across??

    • @millerscustomwoodproducts4638
      @millerscustomwoodproducts4638 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      hopemakay I guess to answer your question would be for you to know what your SOR is.(how many rolls on average before seeing a seven) if I know I can throw 10 times on avg before a 7 comes, and I have thrown 8 times with only one score hit, I may think about pulling down my bets all but the 6-8 for 2 more throws then all the way down and just have a pass line bet. I have had those throws of 2,3,4,10,11,4,6....it’s unfortunate, however betting the inside gives you 18 ways to win and 6 was to lose. As your skill and bankroll increase, you may wish to bet 96 across..

  • @blazensrh
    @blazensrh 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello Mr bonethrower hope all is well with you was wondering if you found a good site with real casino dice since those ones had weight differences thank you sir

  • @Cowboyup42
    @Cowboyup42 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you have your bets working on the come out throws?

  • @erikvermedahl4444
    @erikvermedahl4444 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Bones
    Checked out the better random throw but with smooth throwing.... Hit 8 points in one session and 7 in another..... won some quick cash with it... Grand Casino Shawnee Okla. Good table

  • @danielsargent208
    @danielsargent208 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    BT. update on 66 inside bet worked great. was able to press twice pulled down on 3rd throw. worked my come out $$$. others thought that was stupid. still need to be hog tied and horse whipped for not being disciplined enough. bet a few times on others and LOST both times. walked away with $236. THANKS

    • @bonethrower1957
      @bonethrower1957  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You're not there to make friends. You're there to money .

  • @gmfurnald9219
    @gmfurnald9219 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A quick question for you sir: If I use your strategy of making the come out roll working, i.e. money on the inside numbers as you show, if I throw a 7, 11 or craps number on my come out roll do I lose the money put on the inside numbers? Thanks in advance!

    • @sfunaro45
      @sfunaro45 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gm Furnald
      You would only lose it in a 7 .. so if you think about it, it’s the same risk

    • @DJvRoD
      @DJvRoD 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sfunaro45 Depends how you measure risk. If you hit multiple come out 7's as is the case quite often, you lose a full set of bets multiple times. Whereas is if you only bet when game is on, you can only lose those bets on the one 7 that is rolled. Obviously you could PSO multiple times in a row for the same result. So again, it depends how you measure risk.

    • @natedoglara
      @natedoglara 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      So yes if you were to work the come out roll they would turn the puck to ON, on your side of the table and the only way you would lose your bets that you have on the table is if you throw a 7. So this is what i did this past weekend i went to casino and only bet passline so I could see what numbers I would throw with the new dice set. I did not lose so that is a plus. But I hit a lot of field numbers over and over made another guy some money but not everyone else on the table. But hey I am not there for any of them. We are there for ourselves.

  • @charlitamahoe5467
    @charlitamahoe5467 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there an APP that can help me track my numbers when throwing the dice. Please let me know. Thank you.

  • @Krazyspank
    @Krazyspank 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Bt , Did you do a betting video , betting 120 inside taking 2 to 3 score hits then bringing bets down to 64 across. Then collecting a few more throws, then pulling down. I seen this somewhere just cannot seem to find it again. Maybe another viewer has seen it.

    • @bonethrower1957
      @bonethrower1957  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes I do have a video showing 120 inside bet.

  • @flxmnstr9549
    @flxmnstr9549 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    @bonethrower... I was noticing that you are not having a pass line bet I know that is assumed but the minimum is he there probably 5 or $10 so the $41 that you were mentioning should be either 46 or 51 because you won the point correct? since seeing your videos you have motivated me to get a practice box and start doing this because I used to play dice but never had a clue on how to set the dice but my mechanics were Fair as one time I was at Bally's and they stopped the roll after about 40 45 minutes and counted all the high denomination chips for no apparent reason and then after about a 10-minute pause I crapped out with about somewhere over $1,000 out on the board I did net about $4,000 that day and that was the best day I ever had and I was so excited. Also what dice that are you using for this system? I assume that you are using the hard set am I correct or are using the inline 1/5 1/3 for ? thanks for the great videos!! I can't wait I only live about 3 hours away from Vegas local casinos in California don't have dice throw they have card craps which sucks can't do anything about that

    • @zorolobo
      @zorolobo 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Right on

  • @thomastokarz817
    @thomastokarz817 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What's the minimum buy in

    • @womack1324
      @womack1324 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      it's posted at every table.

  • @thomastokarz817
    @thomastokarz817 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What if you do 66 inside then reduce to 5 or 6 after hit

    • @chrisp5002
      @chrisp5002 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I do something similar to the above
      1) 66 inside
      2) on first hit, I throw the dealer a $1 and press up $22 inside
      3) on next hit, I press up $22 inside, but then I also put $5 on the 4. Rack the extra $1
      4) on 3rd hit, it is $35 and I press up $32 across and rack the $3
      5) on 4th hit, I take the $42, and reduce down to $22 inside.
      I do this because I will often throw another 10-12 times and still want to be in the game. So I take one and press one from here on out, since I already have racked up my $103 profit.
      Winnings: $125 - $22 (still on the table) = $103

    • @rogerl8488
      @rogerl8488 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chrisp5002 I like that!!! But my only question what are you throwing hard ways? Also what if you throw a 7 on the first throw wouldnt you be out?

    • @chrisp5002
      @chrisp5002 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rogerl8488 Unlike Bonethrower I don't work my come out throw. I use that throw to calibrate my dice set and throw. I don't have a practice rig at home. You can 7 out at anytime and yes I would lose it all, but that's the same with any throw.
      I actually use a few different dice sets. I also do not put rotation on the dice, I grip them like you would do the hardways set, but I don't do a a swing, it's similar to a drop throw. If I am on the right side of the table, I do about 3 throws with the 4/2, 3/1 dice set (yes the 7 is on top, but I have never yet 7'd out with the 4/3. It's always been either a 5/2 or a 6/1) then I switch to 3 throws with the 6/5, 6/4 (cross sixes).
      If I am on the left side of the stickman, I rotate between the 6/4. 2/4 dice set, and then flip it over to the 3V for a few rolls. It could just be superstition but using the above technique my last 5 rolls have been (18,10,16,12,16). I play in Reno where they have the long rolls counter at the Casino so it tells me exactly how many throws I had.

  • @dand.2082
    @dand.2082 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video discusses in more depth why the $66 inside with three hits is a much better bet than leaving the wagers up longer. th-cam.com/video/yPX5GLWUV5E/w-d-xo.html

  • @FishnFrank420
    @FishnFrank420 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    In the game u played u had just established a number. Why not bring down your bets to table min and play 3 more rolls of the new established point? Or is the idea that you want to score a point 3 times and then get out period. I can see if u had rolled a 4 then a 10, how manu rolls would u stay in before turning off bets?

    • @bonethrower1957
      @bonethrower1957  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's strictly your options I'm just getting you started.

  • @gahomegarden
    @gahomegarden 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The problem with this betting system and many of the others you advocate is you will get slaughtered betting this way on shooters that point 7 out or point point 7 out. I wish you would do a video on the 5 count betting system, but it is contrary to your system. It has saved me so much money on cold tables and keeps me in the game for long periods of time until the hot roll occurs. That being said I still like your videos and commentary and would like you to post some of you in live casino like roadgambler does.

    • @millerscustomwoodproducts4638
      @millerscustomwoodproducts4638 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      gahomegarden this system is for your own throw, not random rollers at the table. BT doesn’t usually bet on random players...

  • @richardtaylor5948
    @richardtaylor5948 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Breaking it down to sessions makes it way more manageable. Thanks for the information. Make the table your bitch then go have a beer.

  • @vaflash2285
    @vaflash2285 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The dealers at my casino gets angry when you ask to pull your bets down. Makes it not fun to play.

    • @bonethrower1957
      @bonethrower1957  5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Instead of pulling them down. Try turning them off. And when the throw is done. Take them down then and tip the dealer with a 5 dollar chip.

  • @mikeg6625
    @mikeg6625 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Mr BT, saw that road gambler video and you Made a great observation! Like the restaurant scene in themovie "HEAT" That's the DISCIPLINE, IT IS WHAT IT IS, EITHER THAT OR WE BOTH BETTER GO DO SOMETHING ELSE! PULL YOUR BETS!!!