With the way Thibs uses his centers, no center is worth 30 million a year to the Knicks. At most a center will play 30 minutes and average barely 10 points. He won't get to show his game. Thibs' centers have a very specific job description. Centers with no offensive game and who don't shoot threes are generally pretty cheap these days. Prime Drummond would probably get 12-13 million per year on the open market these days.
Oooooh Looord, enough of this we will never find someone to replace Hartenstein crap. he became better because he played with the other talent on the team. He was a nobody before he came to New York. Hukporti is next up.
@@knicksdigest he wrote that Hartenstein was a garbage time player. Not that he was a trash player skill wise. Garbage Time As in he only got put in the game during the moments that didn’t matter much.
@@knicksdigestHe got cut for a broken down John Wall dude. No hate towards Zay however I agree if Thibs can make him he can do the same with someone else.
No disrespect to Simms, but I’m not going to be stoked if he is the backup center behind Mitch. If he develops his game, great, but let’s see the proof before we rely on it during the regular season.
I agree. Going into the season as a contender when your backup center is a guy who's unproven and your starter has had injury issues is concerning, especially when your biggest competition has Embiid and Porzingis
To be honest, I don't have much faith in simms, whenever he was on the court it always seemed like he had no idea what was going on. Maybe he just needs more consistent playing time. He needs to step it up.
Every time anybody mentions Randle they lie. Randle did not score 30 points per game in January. He scored 24.9. Brunson didn't average 30 in January either. He averaged over 30 AFTER January. iHart will be missed, but the Knicks did everything to keep him. When Mitch went down, Thibs actually tried to start Jericho Sims so he could continue to bring iHart off the bench. Thibs played Mitch more than he should have in the playoffs.Thibs wouldn't allow iHart to shoot threes. 4/72.5 was a very generous offer for the mediocre traditional stats iHart was allowed to put up. Presti was willing to pay 29 million per year for iHart becasue he sees that iHart can do more than Thibs let him do.
Shout out to you living in the city! I’ve heard sirens in the background at least 4 different videos. Probably more but I wasn’t sure if it was in my world or in the video! 😂🤣😂🤣✊🏾
They all ‘train’ in the summer, put out vids where they are splashing 3s etc and then come the season none of that comes into play….remember that vid that went viral of Ben Simmons shooting like Curry a few summers ago? 😂I am not getting amped up for seeing workout vids
Mitch is not better than Ihart , Bro! Ihart has a better offensive game! Can score within 10ft and better free thrower. Plus his D was very solid! And best of all, he was always available! Best ability is availability!
Who forgot he couldn’t cover Embiid or Turner or any 7 footer ! That Hukporti can who’s better than Sims and Precious who only played emergency center because Randle was hurt ! Hukporti our best athlete on team at 6’11” 250lbs mitch backup
I'm still gonna root for players if they're not on the Knicks. I'll just also root against them when they're on the Knicks. Watching Knicks 76ers I was joking around like "wouldn't it be funny if Kelly Oubre got hit by a car again" and then was like wait wtf that's so messed up I'm a huge fan of Oubre, and most NBA players (not Miles Bridges though)
Yes I really like Naz Reid & not just because he's a fellow New Jersey guy, but because of his height & fluidity so yeah if he can be close to his play we're good to go
I look at things differently. What the Knicks offer was a life changer. If it was not for the Knicks he would be as a deveeloped player. Being that the money was less a no trade clause could have been added. Imagine leaving the Knicks snd NYC gor Oklahoma CIty. Note i don't live in NYC or any other large city. All about money ; take it and leave.
If Nick can be had without giving up Deuce, that would be ideal. Aslo, Nick seems like he'd be happy to be in a rotation. Kessler would probably expect to get the bulk of the minutes right off the bat.
Once they gave OG all that money 🤑 it became obvious he wasn't coming back. He thrived in a Coach thibs system . Lets see how he does with another system.
Smarter passer than Precious Knicks got plenty of defensive muscle. Don't need (old habits die hard) ball-heavy Brunson and Randle detracting away from Bridges/OG because Robinson/Precious/Richards are primarily roll/glass/hustle players not actively facilitating spacing or ball movement. Theis is like a poor man's version bball IQ-type Hartenstein at 1/10th the cost (was Horford backup on Boston conference finals team). Think either specific offensive sets late half or timeout, or a high/low set to Randle in the post. You trust Mitch to throw that high/low pass? Hence get some skillset diversity at 4/5. Precious is your energy guy. Mitch the glass/defensive beast. Who is your facilitator (think Warriors without Draymond or Bogut), as lack of spacing at the 5 did hurt Knicks in the playoffs last year, no doubt, teams collapsing the paint a bit, Knicks perimeter fortunately hit more than a handful of late clock tough threes, and no reason to willingly repeat if avoidable with this updated roster by hamstringing with all roll/energy bigs at the 5).
Maybe not. iHart was obviously better than Mitch and it took an injury for him to get the starting job. If Mitch is healthy and named the starter, he'll likely keep the job until he gets hurt. Thibs already knows the guy can't hit free throws. He's not going to sit him for being a horrible free throw shooter.
@@Michael_Page They have been trying to trade Mitch for three years. THIBS being Uber Stubborn is what kept Mitch here. But it's time to Trade Mitch. 5 Years and not one Low post move can't shoot free throws bad foot work low IQ which we witnessed with the incredible dumb Foul against MAXEY. Mitch Time is up. The Last of Scott Perry's bad draft picks like forcing the team to Draft Kevin Knox
@@leonmitchell3560 But it wasn't a terribly dumb foul. It was a smart play by Maxey (and a travel). Mitch had a great plus minus in the series despite being hobbled and the Knicks won the series. Mitch also was big in the series win against the Cavs the year before. Thibs is stubborn. He loves Mitch, it appears. He also loves Randle. They've been trying to trade Randle for years too. Knicks would probably ne better off without Randle, but the coach is the coach. Thibs changed the culture and has his ways of doing things. Gotta take the good with the bad.
THIBS Stifled IHART Skills. IHART Can shoot. At Some Point THIBS will be due a Recogning. Keep Holding talent back to the degree that makes you happy and see what happens!!
THIBS Stifled IHART Skills. IHART Can shoot. At Some Point THIBS will be due a Recogning. Keep Holding talent back to the degree that makes you happy and see what happens!!
@@foreverallah4018 Hey this came from IHart not me in a Just released interview. He said THIBS was not thrilled about him Shooting where he did so with The Clippers. That the chance to Expand his game and grow attracted him more than the money. And even Sam Presti said His playing time is not Promised but his creativity is embraced. So we didn't really lose him for more Money.
I'll never forget that rebound he got, passed to OG, who passed to The Big Ragu for THREEEE!!!!!
Bless him! Men have to secure the future for their families. We’ll be good and so will he😤
The Knicks weren't ALLOWED to match it. There was a little clause in the contract that forbid them from going over 72.
I'm well aware
With the way Thibs uses his centers, no center is worth 30 million a year to the Knicks. At most a center will play 30 minutes and average barely 10 points. He won't get to show his game. Thibs' centers have a very specific job description. Centers with no offensive game and who don't shoot threes are generally pretty cheap these days. Prime Drummond would probably get 12-13 million per year on the open market these days.
I Think Hupkorti can be really good his highlight reel impressed me he has size and serious defense im pumped up to see him in the summer league
I don't trust highlight reels tbh, they'll make anyone look good
@@knicksdigesthe's been playing professionally since he was 15 bro
So? All european players are and not all of them pan out.
I’m definitely 💯 Happy for him
Oooooh Looord, enough of this we will never find someone to replace Hartenstein crap. he became better because he played with the other talent on the team. He was a nobody before he came to New York. Hukporti is next up.
So true he came out of nowhere he was a garbage time player before we got him i actually like our last pick Hukporti he plays D
To think Hartenstein was garbage before we got him was wild. He was nowhere near as good, but he was a fine backup
@@knicksdigest he wrote that Hartenstein was a garbage time player. Not that he was a trash player skill wise. Garbage Time As in he only got put in the game during the moments that didn’t matter much.
@@knicksdigestHe got cut for a broken down John Wall dude. No hate towards Zay however I agree if Thibs can make him he can do the same with someone else.
@@knicksdigest His numbers were much better his last year with the Clippers, actually.
It's time for Jericho to step up and show & prove. It's about that time
No disrespect to Simms, but I’m not going to be stoked if he is the backup center behind Mitch. If he develops his game, great, but let’s see the proof before we rely on it during the regular season.
I agree. Going into the season as a contender when your backup center is a guy who's unproven and your starter has had injury issues is concerning, especially when your biggest competition has Embiid and Porzingis
To be honest, I don't have much faith in simms, whenever he was on the court it always seemed like he had no idea what was going on. Maybe he just needs more consistent playing time. He needs to step it up.
Every time anybody mentions Randle they lie. Randle did not score 30 points per game in January. He scored 24.9. Brunson didn't average 30 in January either. He averaged over 30 AFTER January.
iHart will be missed, but the Knicks did everything to keep him. When Mitch went down, Thibs actually tried to start Jericho Sims so he could continue to bring iHart off the bench. Thibs played Mitch more than he should have in the playoffs.Thibs wouldn't allow iHart to shoot threes. 4/72.5 was a very generous offer for the mediocre traditional stats iHart was allowed to put up. Presti was willing to pay 29 million per year for iHart becasue he sees that iHart can do more than Thibs let him do.
Good luck stein get ur bag bro thx we enjoyed you
Shout out to you living in the city! I’ve heard sirens in the background at least 4 different videos. Probably more but I wasn’t sure if it was in my world or in the video! 😂🤣😂🤣✊🏾
lmaoo yessir! I hated it at first and realized that it was more authentic so I just rocked with it. We in the middle of manhattan
@@knicksdigest it’s all day bro. #SALUTE
Precious is the main man
I fw Precious
They all ‘train’ in the summer, put out vids where they are splashing 3s etc and then come the season none of that comes into play….remember that vid that went viral of Ben Simmons shooting like Curry a few summers ago? 😂I am not getting amped up for seeing workout vids
Mitch is not better than Ihart , Bro! Ihart has a better offensive game! Can score within 10ft and better free thrower. Plus his D was very solid!
And best of all, he was always available! Best ability is availability!
Who forgot he couldn’t cover Embiid or Turner or any 7 footer ! That Hukporti can who’s better than Sims and Precious who only played emergency center because Randle was hurt ! Hukporti our best athlete on team at 6’11” 250lbs mitch backup
I don't know anyting about Hukporti, but if he's so great, why did he go so late in the draft? Medical issue? Character issue?
Stop it chris Hartenstein is not here now F him let's go on Knicks fans. GO KNICKS
I'm still gonna root for players if they're not on the Knicks. I'll just also root against them when they're on the Knicks. Watching Knicks 76ers I was joking around like "wouldn't it be funny if Kelly Oubre got hit by a car again" and then was like wait wtf that's so messed up I'm a huge fan of Oubre, and most NBA players (not Miles Bridges though)
Jericho Sims has no basketball IQ
Naz reid wasn't even drafted. Whose to say the Huk wont have some kind of impact.
Yes I really like Naz Reid & not just because he's a fellow New Jersey guy, but because of his height & fluidity so yeah if he can be close to his play we're good to go
I look at things differently. What the Knicks offer was a life changer. If it was not for the Knicks he would be as a deveeloped player. Being that the money was less a no trade clause could have been added. Imagine leaving the Knicks snd NYC gor Oklahoma CIty. Note i don't live in NYC or any other large city. All about money ; take it and leave.
Nick Richards is better than Kessler I think Richards has more to his game,Kessler is just your basic old school center.
If Nick can be had without giving up Deuce, that would be ideal. Aslo, Nick seems like he'd be happy to be in a rotation. Kessler would probably expect to get the bulk of the minutes right off the bat.
Once they gave OG all that money 🤑 it became obvious he wasn't coming back. He thrived in a Coach thibs system . Lets see how he does with another system.
I think he'll work well in Diagnault's
Kessler
Y'all don't have to listen to me anymore as Theis (3rd center potential) signed with NOP.
Theis isn't a good option for us, bad defense and undersized, he's a worse version of Precious
Smarter passer than Precious Knicks got plenty of defensive muscle. Don't need (old habits die hard) ball-heavy Brunson and Randle detracting away from Bridges/OG because Robinson/Precious/Richards are primarily roll/glass/hustle players not actively facilitating spacing or ball movement. Theis is like a poor man's version bball IQ-type Hartenstein at 1/10th the cost (was Horford backup on Boston conference finals team). Think either specific offensive sets late half or timeout, or a high/low set to Randle in the post. You trust Mitch to throw that high/low pass? Hence get some skillset diversity at 4/5. Precious is your energy guy. Mitch the glass/defensive beast. Who is your facilitator (think Warriors without Draymond or Bogut), as
lack of spacing at the 5 did hurt Knicks in the playoffs last year, no doubt, teams collapsing the paint a bit, Knicks perimeter fortunately hit more than a handful of late clock tough threes, and no reason to willingly repeat if avoidable with this updated roster by hamstringing with all roll/energy bigs at the 5).
They sign Kessler and he will take Mitchell Robinson starting Job in 10 games and Ditto for NICK RICHARDS
Maybe not. iHart was obviously better than Mitch and it took an injury for him to get the starting job. If Mitch is healthy and named the starter, he'll likely keep the job until he gets hurt. Thibs already knows the guy can't hit free throws. He's not going to sit him for being a horrible free throw shooter.
@@Michael_Page They have been trying to trade Mitch for three years. THIBS being Uber Stubborn is what kept Mitch here. But it's time to Trade Mitch. 5 Years and not one Low post move can't shoot free throws bad foot work low IQ which we witnessed with the incredible dumb Foul against MAXEY. Mitch Time is up. The Last of Scott Perry's bad draft picks like forcing the team to Draft Kevin Knox
@@leonmitchell3560 But it wasn't a terribly dumb foul. It was a smart play by Maxey (and a travel). Mitch had a great plus minus in the series despite being hobbled and the Knicks won the series. Mitch also was big in the series win against the Cavs the year before.
Thibs is stubborn. He loves Mitch, it appears. He also loves Randle. They've been trying to trade Randle for years too. Knicks would probably ne better off without Randle, but the coach is the coach. Thibs changed the culture and has his ways of doing things. Gotta take the good with the bad.
He's always working in the summer and come in still can't shot SMH let's keep it real
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Nick Richards or Precious. We gonna have to give away the franchise for Kessler cause UTAH is scum
Nick AND Precious. Precious should be VERY cheap. He's an undersized center who can't shoot threes.
I don’t like dealing with Danny Ainge.
I wouldn’t even pick up the phone and call Danny Ainge.
Thats my biggest concern
Man he left so what’he played for a contract and got paid fuck’m
1) Walker Kessler w/keeping Deuce 2) Ariel Hukporti 3) Jericho Sims th-cam.com/video/owMGNeUro5I/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared
I like Mitch too
Let it go, move on already
THIBS Stifled IHART Skills. IHART Can shoot. At Some Point THIBS will be due a Recogning. Keep Holding talent back to the degree that makes you happy and see what happens!!
I know…72 million is not enough
In 4 yrs compared to 87 in 3 yrs
Yes it's not enough
And NY is expensive af
Mitch sucks with the Knicks
THIBS Stifled IHART Skills. IHART Can shoot. At Some Point THIBS will be due a Recogning. Keep Holding talent back to the degree that makes you happy and see what happens!!
Thibs had I Heart playing the best bball he ever played in his whole career!
@@foreverallah4018 Hey this came from IHart not me in a Just released interview. He said THIBS was not thrilled about him Shooting where he did so with The Clippers. That the chance to Expand his game and grow attracted him more than the money. And even Sam Presti said His playing time is not Promised but his creativity is embraced. So we didn't really lose him for more Money.