Timestamps 0:00: Getting ready to go live 6:12: Intro and Housekeeping - reaction to Jez's great article (read it!) 39:07: Jez's take on TGA 1:19:09: This is an Xbox further take 1:34:135: Grifters and disingenuous takes 1:57:20: Speculation - PS games on xbox 2025 2:23:15: Tencent being on the board of Epic Games & Sony + Kadokawa BV 2:34:20: Outer Worlds 2 release 2:50:00 Xbox needing to address stock issues 2:58:30 superman trailer 3:04:26: Satya Nadella redefining xbox comments 3:24:44: Patreon Questions and Closing Enjoy your weekend everyone and Merry Christmas 🎉🎄🎅
Xbox disappointment in hardware sales this year is hilarious, they did nothing to advertise COD outside of twitter, the fact they still don't grasp the basic concept of marketing and branding blows my mind
I know Jez said Xbox must not be dead because the final fantasies and other games are coming to Xbox but look what had to happen for The games to come Phil had to fly over there and sell his firstborn son and the industry had to change to get them to put those games on Xbox. It's not like they just did them on their own or was like okay. Let's get some money from Xbox. A lot of big changes had to come for that to happen
Exactly people will switch to Playstation but keep their xbox so the can play their games they already bought. It's funny how these guys act like that's not an option. Iv been xbox only for over 15 years bought a Playstation for stellar blade, black myth and helldivers. I probably spend 70% less on xbox now. Exclusives matter
If xbox doesn't sell why would a 3rd party make a Xbox? No one buys them . That will be like somebody else making a Windows phone when nobody was buying Windows phone. Who's going to make hardware that nobody buys already? I don't understand that.
@@wolfgod1011if the platform holder cannot make a go of it themselves why would a third party risk it? Seriously you are a manufacturer you seriously going to make an Xbox only device over STEAM?? Also there are NOT 30 million Series owners, figure includes XB1
@wolfgod1011 They don't have to. They don't sell those handhelds at a loss because they have no store so they selling for profit. And 30 million is nothing in 4 years for a console. And I don't think it's 30 million. I still think it's in the twenties. That's why they don't tell anybody that console numbers because it's so bad. we saw the Xbox one only sold 58 million. In 8 years. Terrible!
Xbox is going to have a hybrid console/PC approach next gen. You're going to have Xbox is for traditional console experience but will have access to additional stores like steam for PC games.
@DJ5540 And no casual is Going to care about that. Pc dudes are going to stay on their PC. They don't care about console console. People care about console. The only ones that go back and forth are the very few hardcore players. People that play call of duty and 2K player on whatever they buy. If they bought it on a Xbox or a PlayStation that's where they're playing it. They bought on a PC that's where they're playing and they're not going between the two. Regular people don't care about that stuff. Xbox right now has play anywhere, streaming games ,games on steam . All this stuff, games on PlayStation. nobody still buying the Xbox. Nobody streaming call of duty as their main way to play all this extra stuff doesn't matter. It's extra. It's not the main thing and that's why they keep bombing.
Just curious, but why did none of these Xbox influences talk about the repercussions of a 67 billon acquisition before it happened? Of course the CEO is going to put eyes on this when it’s one of Microsoft biggest purchase…
Microsoft is going to learn a very hard lesson…you don’t get to redefine your “fans” expectations. You are a third party with hardware. We’ll see how that goes for you 🤷🏾♂️
They were already in a downward trajectory since 2013. It’s your right to feel that way but I feel msft was really struggling wether they kept exclusives or didn’t
Yeah, like Sony learned a very good lesson by moving away from traditional cartridges to CDs all those years ago... Like Netflix learned that Blockbuster was right that no one would ever stream a movie, lol. Please, companies like MS make such moves because they know what's coming. You and me are just along for the ride.
A typical xbox two podcast where jez and rand say a lot but basically say nothing. They still refuse to call out xbox for lying to its fanbase constantly and now killing the whole brand. As long as they keep getting free hardware and games i guess they'll never really care.
Are you a first time listener? Jez is always calling out xbox, he's the reason everyone was up in arms the last week. Jesus tap dancing christ you whinge bags are something else.
@@MightyMork where is jezs article saying that Xbox has done nothing but lie to its user base and that Xbox will be dead in a few years which yes it will be. Waiting for that article.
@@michaelsquires1177 how will they be dead? Literally making more money than they ever had, more MAUs than they ever had. Next gen consoles being developed. Why don't you just go listen to dreamcast guy about how xbox is officially dead.?
@@kingarthur6173yes, that's all it takes. If HALO goes so do the other pillars. Of all of the other pillars go there's no point in having an Xbox. I'll buy the console that's most convenient. I don't have to buy all of the Xbox games, just the ones I want to play and I can buy them at a discount.
I get the multiplatform push, I do, but why can't they put some branding on their games? Show the casual audience/ gamer that when you boot up COD, Indiana Jones etc on Playstation/ Nintendo that this is an Xbox game. Playstation do it well, Xbox could learn a lot.
Here is the thing, gamepass was failing leading to acquisitions, studios games where on development already and are now on gamepass, but the data will show once the new ones "made for gamepass" arrive on gamepass that it will repeat the cycle of what happened before acquiring Bethesda... And the one example you can use for gamepass future is Netflix or apps like that...
I just bought a ROG Ally and it has enhanced my Xbox gaming experience. I now play my console even more, and from anywhere in my house and I dont have to sit in front of it. On top of the fact that i also have a mini PC in my hand now. This is why i love this ecosystem and why my PS5 will remain off for the forseeable future.
MS does not have trillions nor have trillions been invested in it. It is WORTH trillions based on stock market pricing. It basically means that nobody could ever buy it and investors invest so they can check out later with more money or get dividends. People need to stop with this trillion dollar stuff.
Ppl care too much about the platform and business side of things. We are the consumers let’s focus on the main thing that matters which is great games which Xbox is now excelling in imo. I honestly don’t care if I’m playing on an Xbox pc or ps . As long as am able to access Xbox’s first party games which are my preferred games . That’s the reason I even play on Xbox mainly
Been with xbox since the beginning. Cant wait for the upcoming hardware. I like the backward compatibility and the quick resume features and absolutely love gamepass which ive also been subbed to since its inception. Hands down best value in gaming imo.
Agreed the value is amazing, and people just ignore that fact it's so crazy to me. Not to mention game sharing, I buy one game, my gf and I BOTH get to play it at the same time and on separate xboxs too.
I’ve stopped buying 3rd party games on Xbox. If the next console can play games from Steam then I’ll be able to access from Xbox otherwise stick with my pc. Xbox saying that they’ll continue to support Xbox when they have said one thing and then gone back on it so many times has left me with no trust in what they say. Still got Gamepass and getting it cheap through cdkeys (less than £100 a year).
Thinking there rand about TVs doing all console stuff on tvs you will need a joystick so who sells the joystick say Xbox so that’s going to the future of Xbox the joystick 😂❤
Why can’t people be mad about NDs new franchise ? It’s a beloved developer, games take a long time to be developed. I feel Sad to see time and effort being wasted under woke leadership to make woke games that Will probably fail and cost jobs
Xbox and MS is just stupid but that’s there doing. Having Phil in charge was actually not a good thing. Just bcz there making money this way their gonna run there hardware dry and just become a publisher at this point. Don matrick atleaast had exclusives 😂
If Oblivion isn't a full remake it's a waste of time because you can play better versions of the game right now with mods. Bethesda are so tone deaf as to what their fans actually want. I've personally lost complete faith in them and I wish they'd just farm out their franchises at this point.
I don’t fear change and I’m sick and tired of people trying to assuage genuine concerns with”trust me bro” comments. If console is the best path for Gamepass and it’s not growing; trying to pivot to mobile users feels like a shot in the dark approach not an innovated tactic.
Do these guys not know what timestamps are, or is it just laziness? Makes me wonder if the so-called ‘journalism’ behind the topics discussed here is just as lazily done.
satya took a steamer and told xbots to enjoy the smell pesants. my xb year review had hundreds of hours on pc, 0 on xb consoles. first time ever. I was that XB console and got tired of being crapped onby microsoft suites who know nothing of games or even play them. my toilet is my xb now. let the shareholders buy that stuff, im not anymore.
Xbox has never been stronger 💪💪💚 amazing future new AI & Invida for Cloud. Amazing 1st party roadmap! Best value in gaming Gamepass Ultimate & more acquisitions ahead. Merry Christmas Jez & Rand 🤘🎄
@NinjaSquirrel30 in 4 years ...that's trash my guy if the console was selling well they wouldn't need to put games everywhere and make the console useless
One thing to understand is that if the next xbox is poorly sold, then they simply won't develop games like the next Witcher, etc., and consoles only sell exclusives, game pass doesn't sell consoles, even the launch of bo6 doesn't contribute to this, in fact, little has changed that playstation that Nintendo is buying is because their games , not because of subscriptions.
Its too much agenda in games so now anything that seems close to it even if it isnt people tired of it . And everyone knows how last of us 2 was and how drukman is . And that why they dont like naughry dog character. U can see her attitude. People tired of it last of us 2 sales showed that
GTA isnt most peoples most anticipated game. It onlt gets hyped up by the media. GTA has always been such an average game, there are so many much better games releasing next year than GTA
That is such cope lol, GTA 6 is objectively the most anticipated game by 90% of ppl. It will have the most successful video game launch of all time and will sell like 150 million copies in its lifetime
Cope about what? I couldnt give two shits about GTA lmao, its bang average. Outside of the Media it isn't hyped up anywhere near as much as people make out. I'd guarantee most people would rather see a RDR 3 than GTA @jimmythegamer2231
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Timestamps
0:00: Getting ready to go live
6:12: Intro and Housekeeping - reaction to Jez's great article (read it!)
39:07: Jez's take on TGA
1:19:09: This is an Xbox further take
1:34:135: Grifters and disingenuous takes
1:57:20: Speculation - PS games on xbox 2025
2:23:15: Tencent being on the board of Epic Games & Sony + Kadokawa BV
2:34:20: Outer Worlds 2 release
2:50:00 Xbox needing to address stock issues
2:58:30 superman trailer
3:04:26: Satya Nadella redefining xbox comments
3:24:44: Patreon Questions and Closing
Enjoy your weekend everyone and Merry Christmas 🎉🎄🎅
Doing God's work sir
Someone give this guy a raise
Thanks randomguy
you're either ignorant about the many benefits of exclusivity or you're purposely ignoring them to help xbox with their multiplatform business pivot
I think it's sort of strange that Rand rarely thanks the people that give superchats. Bro donated $100 and not a single thank you is crazy work
Xbox disappointment in hardware sales this year is hilarious, they did nothing to advertise COD outside of twitter, the fact they still don't grasp the basic concept of marketing and branding blows my mind
I know Jez said Xbox must not be dead because the final fantasies and other games are coming to Xbox but look what had to happen for The games to come Phil had to fly over there and sell his firstborn son and the industry had to change to get them to put those games on Xbox. It's not like they just did them on their own or was like okay. Let's get some money from Xbox. A lot of big changes had to come for that to happen
I don't think they see the impact of this approach until next gen to be honest, they are happy they aren't losing gamers but we are mid-gen.
Exactly people will switch to Playstation but keep their xbox so the can play their games they already bought. It's funny how these guys act like that's not an option. Iv been xbox only for over 15 years bought a Playstation for stellar blade, black myth and helldivers. I probably spend 70% less on xbox now. Exclusives matter
If xbox doesn't sell why would a 3rd party make a Xbox? No one buys them . That will be like somebody else making a Windows phone when nobody was buying Windows phone. Who's going to make hardware that nobody buys already? I don't understand that.
30 million isn't no one... there are companies making these PC handhelds which won't sell a tenth of that.
@@wolfgod1011if the platform holder cannot make a go of it themselves why would a third party risk it?
Seriously you are a manufacturer you seriously going to make an Xbox only device over STEAM??
Also there are NOT 30 million Series owners, figure includes XB1
@wolfgod1011 They don't have to. They don't sell those handhelds at a loss because they have no store so they selling for profit. And 30 million is nothing in 4 years for a console. And I don't think it's 30 million. I still think it's in the twenties. That's why they don't tell anybody that console numbers because it's so bad. we saw the Xbox one only sold 58 million. In 8 years. Terrible!
Xbox is going to have a hybrid console/PC approach next gen. You're going to have Xbox is for traditional console experience but will have access to additional stores like steam for PC games.
@DJ5540 And no casual is Going to care about that. Pc dudes are going to stay on their PC. They don't care about console console. People care about console. The only ones that go back and forth are the very few hardcore players. People that play call of duty and 2K player on whatever they buy. If they bought it on a Xbox or a PlayStation that's where they're playing it. They bought on a PC that's where they're playing and they're not going between the two. Regular people don't care about that stuff. Xbox right now has play anywhere, streaming games ,games on steam . All this stuff, games on PlayStation. nobody still buying the Xbox. Nobody streaming call of duty as their main way to play all this extra stuff doesn't matter. It's extra. It's not the main thing and that's why they keep bombing.
Just curious, but why did none of these Xbox influences talk about the repercussions of a 67 billon acquisition before it happened?
Of course the CEO is going to put eyes on this when it’s one of Microsoft biggest purchase…
Merry Christmas lads hope it’s a blessed one with friends and family 🎉
Microsoft is going to learn a very hard lesson…you don’t get to redefine your “fans” expectations. You are a third party with hardware. We’ll see how that goes for you 🤷🏾♂️
They were already in a downward trajectory since 2013. It’s your right to feel that way but I feel msft was really struggling wether they kept exclusives or didn’t
Exactly @@captaincrunch1707
Let's wait and see. I think their next gen console/ strategy is actually going to be a game changer and going to surprise everyone!
Yeah, like Sony learned a very good lesson by moving away from traditional cartridges to CDs all those years ago... Like Netflix learned that Blockbuster was right that no one would ever stream a movie, lol. Please, companies like MS make such moves because they know what's coming. You and me are just along for the ride.
If they integrate Steam OS on their next platform. That’s their only hope
Superman is my most anticipated movie ever
Xbox letting other people make an 'xbox' was a rumour from early 2024, I expect it to be real now. I just hope Xbox can get Steam store on the console
A typical xbox two podcast where jez and rand say a lot but basically say nothing. They still refuse to call out xbox for lying to its fanbase constantly and now killing the whole brand. As long as they keep getting free hardware and games i guess they'll never really care.
Are you a first time listener? Jez is always calling out xbox, he's the reason everyone was up in arms the last week. Jesus tap dancing christ you whinge bags are something else.
Bot post lol
@@MightyMork he barely said shit against Xbox. Again it doesn't effect him at all, he'll keep getting his free games, consoles, headsets
@@MightyMork where is jezs article saying that Xbox has done nothing but lie to its user base and that Xbox will be dead in a few years which yes it will be. Waiting for that article.
@@michaelsquires1177 how will they be dead? Literally making more money than they ever had, more MAUs than they ever had. Next gen consoles being developed. Why don't you just go listen to dreamcast guy about how xbox is officially dead.?
The day Halo goes to PlayStation is the day I say goodbye to the Xbox brand that I’ve been loyal to and have followed through thick and thin.
That's all it'll take? Bye Felicia, LOL.
@ damnnn sit down deebo. That’s all it takes for several more millions like me. Xbox wouldn’t exist with Halo
@@serialkiller77 Without*
@@kingarthur6173yes, that's all it takes. If HALO goes so do the other pillars. Of all of the other pillars go there's no point in having an Xbox. I'll buy the console that's most convenient. I don't have to buy all of the Xbox games, just the ones I want to play and I can buy them at a discount.
Demon's Souls was exclusive at launch, Returnal eas exclusive shortly after, etc
I feel like you really need a new co-host Rand. Jez is unraveling nobody takes him serious anymore.
Jez even says openly that his commentary is just for the moment when he's challenged on what he said in the past. No responsibility in his words.
2:21:25 lmao this is the best. Yal are old but still young in spirit!
Happy holiday ❤❤❤
Microsoft need to release Fable in September so it can be included in GotY
GotY doesn't matter even a little bit to me.
I get the multiplatform push, I do, but why can't they put some branding on their games? Show the casual audience/ gamer that when you boot up COD, Indiana Jones etc on Playstation/ Nintendo that this is an Xbox game.
Playstation do it well, Xbox could learn a lot.
It almost feels so basic that you start to wonder if it's planned that way. But couldn't begin to understand why though.
Here is the thing, gamepass was failing leading to acquisitions, studios games where on development already and are now on gamepass, but the data will show once the new ones "made for gamepass" arrive on gamepass that it will repeat the cycle of what happened before acquiring Bethesda... And the one example you can use for gamepass future is Netflix or apps like that...
The Sega arc begins!
RE3 was shallow because it lacked content. They don’t need to change much. Just give us RE with dinosaurs.
I just bought a ROG Ally and it has enhanced my Xbox gaming experience. I now play my console even more, and from anywhere in my house and I dont have to sit in front of it. On top of the fact that i also have a mini PC in my hand now. This is why i love this ecosystem and why my PS5 will remain off for the forseeable future.
@@mohammeddiallo3354 amen
MS does not have trillions nor have trillions been invested in it. It is WORTH trillions based on stock market pricing. It basically means that nobody could ever buy it and investors invest so they can check out later with more money or get dividends. People need to stop with this trillion dollar stuff.
Good point sir
Yeah people seriously misinterpret market cap. Market cap =/= how much money Microsoft has.
Ppl care too much about the platform and business side of things. We are the consumers let’s focus on the main thing that matters which is great games which Xbox is now excelling in imo. I honestly don’t care if I’m playing on an Xbox pc or ps . As long as am able to access Xbox’s first party games which are my preferred games . That’s the reason I even play on Xbox mainly
Completely agree
And those games are going to PS which defeats the purpose of an Xbox. So many excuses here.
Been with xbox since the beginning. Cant wait for the upcoming hardware. I like the backward compatibility and the quick resume features and absolutely love gamepass which ive also been subbed to since its inception. Hands down best value in gaming imo.
Agreed the value is amazing, and people just ignore that fact it's so crazy to me. Not to mention game sharing, I buy one game, my gf and I BOTH get to play it at the same time and on separate xboxs too.
@hihosilver1234 forgot about that lol..me and my buddy also do that
I’ve stopped buying 3rd party games on Xbox. If the next console can play games from Steam then I’ll be able to access from Xbox otherwise stick with my pc.
Xbox saying that they’ll continue to support Xbox when they have said one thing and then gone back on it so many times has left me with no trust in what they say.
Still got Gamepass and getting it cheap through cdkeys (less than £100 a year).
Thinking there rand about TVs doing all console stuff on tvs you will need a joystick so who sells the joystick say Xbox so that’s going to the future of Xbox the joystick 😂❤
gta was never every two years jez
@2:30 Rand also doesn’t have a physical girlfriend 😂😂
Pointing out failures after the fact does not mean you know more than a trillion dollar company. This is just backseat CEOing.
Why can’t people be mad about NDs new franchise ? It’s a beloved developer, games take a long time to be developed. I feel Sad to see time and effort being wasted under woke leadership to make woke games that Will probably fail and cost jobs
Xbox and MS is just stupid but that’s there doing. Having Phil in charge was actually not a good thing. Just bcz there making money this way their gonna run there hardware dry and just become a publisher at this point. Don matrick atleaast had exclusives 😂
What drugs is Rand on, cause his opinions are whack.
My entire game library is on xbox. I may eventually move to PC, but ill never move to PS.
I prefer xbox, but I own a PS4 for a couple exclusives. I haven't played on it in years tho lol
Jez my man! Can anyone tell me how to get a question read on the show btw?
If Oblivion isn't a full remake it's a waste of time because you can play better versions of the game right now with mods. Bethesda are so tone deaf as to what their fans actually want. I've personally lost complete faith in them and I wish they'd just farm out their franchises at this point.
I don’t fear change and I’m sick and tired of people trying to assuage genuine concerns with”trust me bro” comments. If console is the best path for Gamepass and it’s not growing; trying to pivot to mobile users feels like a shot in the dark approach not an innovated tactic.
Do these guys not know what timestamps are, or is it just laziness? Makes me wonder if the so-called ‘journalism’ behind the topics discussed here is just as lazily done.
satya took a steamer and told xbots to enjoy the smell pesants. my xb year review had hundreds of hours on pc, 0 on xb consoles. first time ever. I was that XB console and got tired of being crapped onby microsoft suites who know nothing of games or even play them. my toilet is my xb now. let the shareholders buy that stuff, im not anymore.
Freud would have a field day with your post.
What in the troll post?
Rivals also made me play OW lol, rivals is kinda ass
Xbox has never been stronger 💪💪💚 amazing future new AI & Invida for Cloud. Amazing 1st party roadmap! Best value in gaming Gamepass Ultimate & more acquisitions ahead.
Merry Christmas Jez & Rand 🤘🎄
Yea but the console not selling . So what does that mean in the future for us that play on the console .
Love love love this positivity 💚💪🏻
@@spectrexr1 Console not selling.... 30m series consoles sold or 30 million of anything sold. Is a lot of sales. They will never abandon consoles
@NinjaSquirrel30 in 4 years ...that's trash my guy if the console was selling well they wouldn't need to put games everywhere and make the console useless
@NinjaSquirrel30 and we don't know if it's 30...that a guess cause Ms doesn't release numbers I think it's less than 30
One thing to understand is that if the next xbox is poorly sold, then they simply won't develop games like the next Witcher, etc., and consoles only sell exclusives, game pass doesn't sell consoles, even the launch of bo6 doesn't contribute to this, in fact, little has changed that playstation that Nintendo is buying is because their games , not because of subscriptions.
Its too much agenda in games so now anything that seems close to it even if it isnt people tired of it . And everyone knows how last of us 2 was and how drukman is . And that why they dont like naughry dog character. U can see her attitude. People tired of it last of us 2 sales showed that
GTA isnt most peoples most anticipated game. It onlt gets hyped up by the media.
GTA has always been such an average game, there are so many much better games releasing next year than GTA
That is such cope lol, GTA 6 is objectively the most anticipated game by 90% of ppl. It will have the most successful video game launch of all time and will sell like 150 million copies in its lifetime
Cope about what? I couldnt give two shits about GTA lmao, its bang average.
Outside of the Media it isn't hyped up anywhere near as much as people make out. I'd guarantee most people would rather see a RDR 3 than GTA
@jimmythegamer2231
think ur in the minority on this one 😂😂
@xchxmpagnepxpix I'm really not though
@@WoodstarForges how do you figure that? By any metric you look at, you would be wrong in saying GTA is “average” and not the most anticipated game.