He said they were underachieving early in the year.He was right you goose…… Plenty of really good reasons to dislike Cornes. This isn’t one of them mate
I love the Tom Hawkins Medal. The AFL should make this a real end of season award. In Ice Hockey the scoring race is exactly like this: goals plus assists = total scoring points. Yes, hockey assists can be primary or secondary, but the important principle is that an assist is worth 1 point, the same as a goal.
I'm glad someone is recognising Jeremy McGovern. The all australian selectors don't have a clue. McGovern and Waterman must be a lock for all australian. Please don't show your stupidity because you favour Top 8 teams.
@@trikkimick he has played well every game he has played and missed 3 games and still top 4 in the Coleman plus everything else he does like contested marks, tackling etc
I enjoy listening to the data but have an issue with people using words they have no idea what it means. Please explain how team mateJeremy Cameron being second to Tom Hawkins in goal assists is ironic. It is surely a coincidence rather than irony.
@@kossend1the Jeremy and Tom Hawkins example you could describe as a coincidence but it would be an ironic coincidence. Something being Ironic means that it is contrary to what you may expect. With Jez being second of all players in goal assists it makes it all the harder for Tom Hawkins to rank as number one since they would be competing with the same opportunity’s generated by the finite amount of inside 50s / scoring chains. This makes the outcome of them both being one and two In the same team surprising and therefore ironic. The dusty example is more loose but one could say, out of all the years for CD to start tracking broken tackles it was the year dusty entered the league, what an interestingly unexpected comical circumstance which is in essence Irony.
As soon as the get it done segment started I thought of those 2019 & 2020 5th place finishes for the eagles Lapses late in the season killed a potential period of contention
and a piss poor percentage, which was also related to lapses in games that led to an ability to put big margins on the board. Im an eagles fan and think about this all the time, couldve had another flag as that 2019 team was the best we had on paper
That 2019 season was such a waste, chances are Richmond would have won the flag still, but we were within a goal of them at the MCG in conditions that were favourable to them.
Hoyney's right about the Adelaide game this weekend. Of the final three matches this one scares me the most by a long shot - still not entirely convinced the dogs are a truly consistent side yet, and that's what gets you the double chance in a season as competitive as this
@@UTDDDD we have a knack for playing to the level of our opposition. We were hardly convincing against norf so I'm worried we might be exposed this weekend
some of this data is only because of the role played in the team and players like Georgiades(young raw athletic talls) always going to improve with gametime
On Port Adelaide and the Marshall discussion. I do like Marshall, but I have liked Esava's marking strength in the fwd line, however his reliabilty when kicking for goal is questionable and Marshall is definitely a better set shot. Hoyne suggests Marshall should go behind the ball. I don't know if Marshall can play as a defender. But his field kicking is very good. With that in mind, could he possibly play on a wing? But who does he replace? Perhaps Boak in the long term. (No disrespect to the 360+ game champion) Marshall is a very different body type to Boak. Yes, it will be intriguing to see how and if they bring Marshall back.
I think unless Marshall can get his dead eye kicking going again he'd be better off in a Hoff type role. When he played up the ground last he was much better than he's been forward for a while. Just needs to get a bigger tank.
Houli should of had the the norm Smith in their first gf, no debate... the second gf could have also gone to houli.. number 3 was definitely dustys though
@@jackduncan7214 ok cool that’s your opinion but the people who voted on the norm smith are legends of the game like Judd and loydd and they both voted dusty so I think their opinion is worth more then yours buddy🤡
@@ethan76708 hard to compare eras. but no dusty is a champ, he was able to get himself to rise above his peers in the big games for three gf's . im far from a hawks fan, but gary ayres won five grand finals , competed in finals series his whole career, won two norm smiths in a team full of champs, against what was some very formidable opposition. if you want to count silverware his cabinet is impressive. taking nothing from dusty, he won the mans best finals player medal.
Love how he is supposedly the best finals player of all time, but only won a final in 4/15 seasons(17-20), which coincidences his status in the game. All time great peak, but the very best in any sport simply cannot have most their meaningful achievements blanketed by such a short time period
With respect to Dusty's stats - Ablett Jnr's career started 22 years ago so he is not taking Jnr's 1st 7 years into account. Needs to be mentioned. Do better Hoyney.. Nonetheless Dusty an amazing player.
Dogs deliver 4 convincing wins in a row, Cornes nowhere to be seen 😂😂
What happened before that 4 game streak?
On round so far he said they were playing well
He said they were underachieving early in the year.He was right you goose……
Plenty of really good reasons to dislike Cornes. This isn’t one of them mate
@@willhudson3470 I don't even dislike him you goose. But it's obvious to anyone he's got a vendetta against Bevo
And Sam Mitchell “genius” coaching potentially cost Hawks a win 😂😂😂
Thanks Dusty for your contribution to Richmond's awesome premiership era!
And thanks to you for your contribution to the TH-cam comments section.
I love the Tom Hawkins Medal. The AFL should make this a real end of season award. In Ice Hockey the scoring race is exactly like this: goals plus assists = total scoring points. Yes, hockey assists can be primary or secondary, but the important principle is that an assist is worth 1 point, the same as a goal.
The Art Ross in NHL
There’s needs to be less focus by AFL on Coleman, and more on forward craft. Same for other stats - still hear too much about touches
I'm glad someone is recognising Jeremy McGovern. The all australian selectors don't have a clue. McGovern and Waterman must be a lock for all australian. Please don't show your stupidity because you favour Top 8 teams.
Can’t give Waterman AA for half a season
@@trikkimick Hasn't played half a season.
@@trikkimick he has played well every game he has played and missed 3 games and still top 4 in the Coleman plus everything else he does like contested marks, tackling etc
Jesse Hogan is a lock
@@imalwaysright for sure 🤘
The McGovern respect is great, he started slow on the weekend back from injury but was immense in the last quarter
I enjoy listening to the data but have an issue with people using words they have no idea what it means. Please explain how team mateJeremy Cameron being second to Tom Hawkins in goal assists is ironic. It is surely a coincidence rather than irony.
Agreed - or how is it ironic that they started tracking the broken tackles stat in Dusty's debut season?
@@kossend1the Jeremy and Tom Hawkins example you could describe as a coincidence but it would be an ironic coincidence. Something being Ironic means that it is contrary to what you may expect. With Jez being second of all players in goal assists it makes it all the harder for Tom Hawkins to rank as number one since they would be competing with the same opportunity’s generated by the finite amount of inside 50s / scoring chains. This makes the outcome of them both being one and two In the same team surprising and therefore ironic.
The dusty example is more loose but one could say, out of all the years for CD to start tracking broken tackles it was the year dusty entered the league, what an interestingly unexpected comical circumstance which is in essence Irony.
Definition of irony: a state of affairs or an event that seems deliberately contrary to what one expects and is often wryly amusing as a result
Looks like the shoe fits
What do you think is the definition of irony?
As soon as the get it done segment started I thought of those 2019 & 2020 5th place finishes for the eagles
Lapses late in the season killed a potential period of contention
and a piss poor percentage, which was also related to lapses in games that led to an ability to put big margins on the board. Im an eagles fan and think about this all the time, couldve had another flag as that 2019 team was the best we had on paper
That 2019 season was such a waste, chances are Richmond would have won the flag still, but we were within a goal of them at the MCG in conditions that were favourable to them.
Dusty is the GOAT! 🏆🏆🏆
Hoyney's right about the Adelaide game this weekend. Of the final three matches this one scares me the most by a long shot - still not entirely convinced the dogs are a truly consistent side yet, and that's what gets you the double chance in a season as competitive as this
Won 4 in a row how are they not consistent? 🤣
@@UTDDDDthey're consistently Inconsistent
Adelaide are a good team. If only the feral bunch of supporters realised that
@@UTDDDD we have a knack for playing to the level of our opposition. We were hardly convincing against norf so I'm worried we might be exposed this weekend
Though Esava is not scoring bags, he’s a natural up forward and Ports structure looks so much better
esava and natural shouldn’t be used in the same sentence
some of this data is only because of the role played in the team and players like Georgiades(young raw athletic talls) always going to improve with gametime
everyone sleeps on the fact Bevo is the goat....you'd call off the entire competition if he was at a mega club.
1 premiership and 1 gf in 10 years. OK.
Are you deliberately obtuse?
@@nathand4500I bet his done more, then what your team/coach has done in the last decade! 😂
Hoyney went full
insufferable mode. Irony usage was terrible. Get it done series talking over orange guy was ouch on the ears.
He was oblivious to every one of Adam's comments in that segment and came across as an obnoxious prick - which I suspect is exactly what he is.
2017 houli should have had it
On Port Adelaide and the Marshall discussion. I do like Marshall, but I have liked Esava's marking strength in the fwd line, however his reliabilty when kicking for goal is questionable and Marshall is definitely a better set shot.
Hoyne suggests Marshall should go behind the ball. I don't know if Marshall can play as a defender. But his field kicking is very good.
With that in mind, could he possibly play on a wing?
But who does he replace? Perhaps Boak in the long term. (No disrespect to the 360+ game champion)
Marshall is a very different body type to Boak.
Yes, it will be intriguing to see how and if they bring Marshall back.
I think unless Marshall can get his dead eye kicking going again he'd be better off in a Hoff type role. When he played up the ground last he was much better than he's been forward for a while. Just needs to get a bigger tank.
Will Hoskin-Elliot is having an incredible year. A criminally underrated player 👏
Who is the zesty bloke?
Haye to say it but Port look a lot more organised and efficient with Marshall out. Would only be better than FEvans in the team, if that.
Agreed, Lachie Jones is a liability but he has been decent for a couple weeks.
There is no debate about who is the greatest finals player ever it’s dusty no debate he is on his own level
Houli should of had the the norm Smith in their first gf, no debate... the second gf could have also gone to houli.. number 3 was definitely dustys though
@@jackduncan7214 ok cool that’s your opinion but the people who voted on the norm smith are legends of the game like Judd and loydd and they both voted dusty so I think their opinion is worth more then yours buddy🤡
who is the greatest finals player ever. dusty won his medal. gary ayres.
@@aussieintexas61 last time I checked 3 norms is more then 2 but maybe I’m wrong
@@ethan76708 hard to compare eras.
but no dusty is a champ, he was able to get himself to rise above his peers in the big games for three gf's
. im far from a hawks fan,
but gary ayres won five grand finals , competed in finals series his whole career, won two norm smiths in a team full of champs,
against what was some very formidable opposition.
if you want to count silverware his cabinet is impressive.
taking nothing from dusty, he won the mans best finals player medal.
Love how he is supposedly the best finals player of all time, but only won a final in 4/15 seasons(17-20), which coincidences his status in the game. All time great peak, but the very best in any sport simply cannot have most their meaningful achievements blanketed by such a short time period
I knew the “who is it” would be Fremantle 😂😂😂😂 Hoyney isnt sold on Freo
And yet Hyphen (WHE) has been a big whipping boy by some Pies fan
“Guess who is the 4th easiest team to score against from stoppages” 😂
Jesus what a silly question, not great radio
COME ON POWER ⚡⚡⚡⚡
Port good defence? Inconceivable!
These guys don’t know what ironic means
Essendon on the thumbnail? Did you mean always get done on field, essendon get absolutely nothing done 😅
With respect to Dusty's stats - Ablett Jnr's career started 22 years ago so he is not taking Jnr's 1st 7 years into account. Needs to be mentioned.
Do better Hoyney..
Nonetheless Dusty an amazing player.
he prefaced that point with "we started measuring in 2010" and said numerous times that it was "during that time period"
Dangerflop nowhere near as good as Dusty
Collingwood the last 2 years especially 2023
The crows could get it done if they weren't cheated out of close games all the frigin time
Here we go 🫣🫣