When Bobby cried watching his mom's face, I also cried a lot. Now Bobby debuted, and his family is now living with him in Seoul. I feel so proud of him
He also made me cry, I couldn't imagine being apart from my family for more than a month, but he's been away for 3 years(at the time of this video). I hope he spends lots of time with is family now🤗
저자리가 원래 저런자리인거에요 그냥 부모님 생각하면 되는거임 다 자식 잘되길바래서 하는 말이지만 그말이 다 좋게들릴순 없음 저런식의 피드백이 당장은 기분 나쁘고 맘상할순있어도 후에 피가되고 살이되는거임 특히 이이돌이라는 직업은 더더욱 그렇고 다만 최근 양씨는 그냥 피드백을 넘어선 임신공격발언까지 해서 그게 문제인거지
Momoi Momozono that was just “their” opinion. Idt they meant anything bad by it & that’s ok, don’t take offense. You and I can agree that both GD & BI are the greatest & best leaders of any boy groups 🤪😄
I don't know, I feel like the only one who legit loved Team B from the start. Hanbin really brought out the best in the group, in terms of choreo and stage presence IMO
i think papa yg really wants to debut team b first but he must consider everything including the popularity of the individual members of team a and their age. (anyway, im happy with ikon and winner now haha)
송민호가 리더자리는 뭔가 부담감이 컸던듯. 강승윤 이승훈처럼 의견 조율하는것보단 부담없이 아이디어를 제공하는쪽이어야 좋은 결과물이 나오는 스타일. 그래도 저 당시 모습 보니 성향에 안맞는 일이라도 잘해보려고 노력하는게 지금의 성공을 가져온듯. 남태현은 윈때도 불안한 모습이었네; 탈퇴한게 마냥 놀라운 일은 아닌것같다. 나아지겠지, 잘되면 원하는거 하겠지 하다가 도망간것같은데 지금은 나름 하고싶은 음악하며 사니까 잘지내겠지뭐
I think that the reason why Papa YG is so harsh on the members of both teams is not to only work on their weakness and strengths and sharpen them, but to prepare them for what the Entertainment industry can do to them. They need to be thick-skin and be assertive in their work, cause' the Entertainment Industry is not all "lights, sparkles and glitter" People are going to criticize their work no matter what/do dirty tricks to bring them down. So going back to their training and advice from YG, YG is doing his job right. That's just the way I think of it ^^
Yeah, that's why he is more harsh to 2NE1 bec. they r girls. Alot of people will criticize them more than the boys. That's why 2NE1 is still stronger even if they disbanded. Their presences still remain
yg made the right decision in making seungyoon the leader instead. Mino is so easygoing and just wants to have fun so he doesn't know how to balance being his fun self with being a leader. seungyoon seems to take the leader role as being someone who monitors the group but doesn't try to steer them too much.
As much as I adore Mino (he's my bias) it just didn't work with him a the leader. Look at how KSY talked to him after the way he talked to Taehyun, he's so natural at it. Mino is better in a position with a little less responsibility and stress I think.... Also I screamed when Zico appeared lol
Yeah I guess that's why the leader got changed. Mino doesn't really suit leader position. If he had become a leader, he couldn't be as playful and goofy as he is now. So it all worked out it in the end
I agree with this. I think he's better as an artist if he's not the leader. has more freedom and doesn't have to carry the stress of the team. worked out for him but hopefully he doesn't feel bad about it even 4-5 years later lol.
Mino is my ult bias too and leader position was not for him, and I'm glad it changed since his mental health is unstable now. KSY is easy to self-sacrifice which is the most important quality of a leader. Mino and Taehyun are the type of artists that shouldn't be boxed because it suffocates their artistic side. It worked out for mino since his style is YG but not for taehyun.
even though a lot of people said YG is team B bias, somehow, in this ep, I can sense that YG really puts an effort for the A Team to build teamwork which is important in winning.
i think that too, i even think that this show is seted up kkk~ bcz for some reason why only mino and seunghoon that have YG shirt with their name on it lol
Watching Taehyun crying breaks my heart, my baby don't cry, I don't know why I'm even torturing myself by watching WIN for the 76567234 time :'( I miss WINNER so freaking much, comeback soon!
I feel like YG knows that team A will get the most public votes and the actual reason he did this show was to gain fans for both teams first before debuting them.... Isn't it clear?
Yes I thought so too!! He showcased both teams on tv so no matter the turn out, the losing team will still have garnered fans and YG can't just throw them away hence they will still debut.
Yes I thought so too!! He showcased both teams on tv so no matter the turn out, the losing team will still have garnered fans and YG can't just throw them away hence they will still debut.
It broke my heart when Mino lost the title of leader but I am glad he did because he seems so much more at ease without it and Seungyoon makes an awesome leader so it all worked out also I love this episode because it's when I realized just how much I love Taehyun's vocal color
2022 and yes It happened for a reason. Mino well-being rn is not healthy he has insomia and overthinks a lot. Even cried when he talked to a psychiatrist. If he was the leader I think he will not be able to manage himself and the group.
i love minho, but im glad kang seunghyun is the leader now.. cuz i cant imagine if TOP becomes bigbang's leader! haha! so minho is a bit like top! playful!
I can see Nam Taehyun's depression now T_T In the past I thought he was crying because he felt stressed and stuff but not til that degree T_T We will always love you and miss you Nam Taehyun
Ikon you have worked hard... You have been through a lot.. some people are immature enough to hate you.. but you know? you all are talented... you all improved a a lot.. vocal, dancing, visual .. or whatever you all are great.. I was not there to support you from the start.. but i promise you.. I'll support you and love you forever..!!! team b you were destined to have your precious maknea Chanwoo.. that's why you didn't win this.. IKON.. SAEANGHE...!!!!
YG is brilliant for making this show. Imo he did it to showcased both teams to gain exposure. Even JYP said along the same line. The reason YG can confidently put both team into a survival show and leaving the decision to audiences shows that he have confidence in both teams. It's near impossible to disband the losing team because they are already exposed and should already garner fans so YG wouldn't just waste them away. It really is a marketing strategy.
+SparkzMxzXZ can you pls translate what exactly happened? what did mino say to taehyun, and what did seungyoon say to mino about it? and what did mino say to the camera in the interview after wards? please let me know!
+Damla Unlu oh you can turn on the subs using the cc button! but anyway taehyun was saying he thought mashing 3 songs for their dance cover is too much. and mino said "then what do you suggest we do" but he said it quite aggressively. seungyoon tells mino that when he comes on too strongly the reaction (of the other person) would not be good. he also says that although mino has been with them for 3 years, he did join team a last and team a has already built their own dancing style. mino says "i was feeling too rushed and only meant to be encouraging. i didn't have to say it like that but it came out too strong. it came out this way because i was too on edge. i don't know it's really complicated"
@@SparkzMxzXZ to be honest, I feel that Taehyun is too sensitive. I've heard that Taehyun really isn't a hardened person. but I really like taehyun, he is very talented and also handasome 🤭😍.
근데 저기는 진짜 말그대로 양육강식의 법칙이 따를곳인데...저도 양싸 그다지 별로지만..연예계 기획사 진짜 한번 가보세요..저거보다 더 심하게 말합니다..우리도 사회생활 처음하면은 싫은솔리 다 듣잖아요..그거를 버티고 이겨내는 건데...양싸를 옹호 하려는건 아니지만..저렇게 말할수 밖에는 없엇을겁니다..
I just started stanning iKON three days ago after listening to Love Scenario. And it really pisses me off whenever I read comments about the group is mainly consists of Kim trio and the other 3(now 4) are just sidelines or extras. All of them are talented and iKON is not complete w/o 1 member missing. My bias is Junhoe but I love all the other members. And I think that's the beauty of stanning them, they really has the charisma.
Came here to rewatch WIN after IKON won best song, BI best song writer 😭😭 the humble beginnings from Team B to tonight’s momentous awards. ❤️❤️❤️ love all these boys.
I really miss this era... The friendship of the three KIM.. the friendship of A team and B team..... now theyre winner and iKON.. Im always thinkin about B.I's hardwork as a leader pls.. let him return to his family-iKON..
Tablo's got like an angel tongue (Filipino's idiom which means 'what you said would come true'). Team A wins because individually they have unique talents the problem is they lack of team work that's why they have here full adjustments to each other. I like how Seungyoon confronted Minho and voiced out or communicated clearly to him about his approach to his team. I remember what the face reader or their fortune telling in their WINNER TV about Taehyun that he can't control by anyone in his team, well, I can clearly see it in this episode.
한창 감수성 예민한 나이의 애들을 데리고 이런다는 게 넘 웃김. 그리고 연습생들은 왜 가족도 못만나게 하는 지 제일 이해가 안감. 근데 양현석 왤케 거만 쩔어- 그리고 4,8년 빅뱅 투애니원 애기하는데 이제 뽑을만큼 뽑았다는거네. 최소한 아이들 인격적으로 존중을 바탕으로 엄격하게 해야지. 이게 뭐야 도데체. 이러니 탈퇴하는거임.
i just love the maturity of KSY and Seunghoon ..while Jinwoo is a good listener..agh Maknae!! Nam being a maknae hahahha just like what KSY mentioned before nam taehyun is so immature and only thinks about himself (before)..but thanks to KSY and the rest of the members understanding and guidance look at them now, so mature and chill..taehyun become more responsible and loving towards his hyungs..even though WIN era is so hearbreaking, it is just so nice to look back and see their growth both Teams are such a great artists i wish them all the best...esp to my WINNER
Woooo~ I cried when Bobby was Skyping with his mom and the rest of his family. My eyes got watery and I couldn't help it. It tugs at my heartstrings whenever I see someone that is far away from their family because I can relate. I haven't seen my mom in almost five years.
I Just want to thank everyone who supported and loved Team B since WIN era... Without you, i wouldn't meet the best group ever in history, IKON!!! (it's my opinion so pls let me be, peace out ) Again from the bottom of my heart thank you! :) Anyways it's fate that Team A won and became Winner, if not Chanwoo won't be in IKON. and iKON won't be this epic performers now, so win win for all of us:)
Jinwoo words must be really pure and comes to his heart, whenever he says something it happens... When he said "I will become WINNER" I had the vibe that his words are strong and deep that he will really do his best for the sake of his family and members and his ambition. And for the first time Team A won was on Jinwoo's birthday. And now that they are already Winner and promoting EXIT:E , Seungyoon had mentioned that they let Jinwoo listen first about their songs.
Im a new fan. Seeing iKon chemistry between his members specially Hanbin Jinhwan and Bobby kills my heart because of what is happening right now. Stay strong Hanbin ❤
Honestly this set of artists are artist not just idol. It’s a shame that people are sleeping on them. Winner and iKON are a whole lot package itself. They literally a gem. Their talent are overflowing to just even called them as idols. Coz the my are ARTISTS
This episode was when Nammie became my bias and it hasn't changed since, his voice, the music he writes even his fashion choices are exactly my style😍😍
After watching this, I feel like YG already knew that Team A was going to debut :/ I don't know... and even for Mix and Match I felt like he knew all of the Team B members were going to debut together. I don't know.. YG is just... suspicious.
Totally Agree. He seems to already know from the start that team A would debut first and team B later (also considering their age?). His business mind is sick. He knows how to direct public attention and create the crowd enough to support them when they finally debut. Scary and admirable at the same time.
watch this after watching Mix and Match....and wow IKON there teamwork and friendship was so strong right from the start..and I guess Mix and match will make there bond more stronger....it was not a surprise things that they are crying in mix and match....I know not letting them win here is one of the best choice coz even winner win and debut and as Im an Ikonic even though those days it might be hard for them...But it was what makes me love ikon more for going through another survival programme...and yea Chanwoo can joint them too..❤
CEO's really have this dynamic aura.I mean when YG speaks, his voice is so soft and placid. When you look at him at first glance, he looks harmless enough but you can see a change in him every time he gives out criticisms or comments about the trainees. It's also similar with JYP. wew, being a trainee is indeed tough.@_@
Here I am watching this to rewind iKON's struggles back then. This storm shall pass too. Hanbin-ah, please come back, you are the only one who can lead iKON
I personally LOVE Winner and Ikon so much so watching this gave me so much mixed feelings. It's so hard for me to watch this honestly. It's so heartbreaking to see them cry ;-;. And I feel that not a lot of people like team B and it really hurts..
I get to know winner first and I don't know ikon much so when I watch this program I am being biased. I can't choose which team to support wholeheartedly. So I'm watching this while supporting both teams and wishing the best for both!!
i personally like iKON more then winner and it's sad to see people not giving them the attention they deserve :( P.S. i also like winner but iKON is my bias group so yeah
Team B had a great teamwork rather than team A In this show . We can see how great bi leading his team .. I can say confidently among YG artist hanbin were the best leader are alongside with GD ..
@@marimarauh807 wth? Since when he ever wanted the spotlight for himself? Lmao Oh he never did babe. He work harder than ever for who? For his team. And for what? So that everyone can shine as bright. He's harsh and strict while practicing. He points out every mistakes that his member make. For what? To help them, the team, and himself to be better. Even his member said that BI has more stress than anyone. How can you say that he wants the spotlight for himself? That's annoying to read ..
@@marimarauh807 wtf? Hanbin is the most hard-working and dedicated leader in kpop. The members themselves chose him to be the leader because he always led them well. So shut up hater :)
A.R.M.Y Llama Episode 4 with JYP was the first episode that I've ever seen because I wanted to see Got7 as fetuses. And out of all the YG trainees Taehyun, Jinhwan and Minho stood out the most to me. Taehyun because of his hair (it's awesome), Jinhwan because his face is adorable and Minho because he looks like Taeyang.
Em Rachel lol this is a very very late reply but yeah taehyun stood out for me because of his hair and eyebrows, jinwoo because he just has this face I can't describe XD and from team b bi and bobby because that's the two most talked person haha
I miss hanbin bobby jinny dodo yoyo junjun so much! I so proud of team b:) I trust hanbin; he can lead his team to be better and stronger in future! Forever team b ♥ ♥ ♥ plz debut team b asap!!!!
27:05 this moment. Seeing your family all together through the screen. You'll smile and seem to be happy when it's actually killing you. Sometimes i turn off the video so that they won't see me crying. It's so hard.. I miss my family I miss my momm. I miss the hugs that will make you feel loved. 😢
i feel like im bobby, i have to move back to the philippines to study college, my family is in calif. i live here by myself too since i was 16. its tough, when i finally graduate college, i felt envy since all my classmate are with their family, and the only person who went with me on my graduation day was my auntie. people say im the happiest person, but sometimes i just feel lonely like bobby. :'( oppa figting, going to support winner and ikon
35:25 -- Seungyoon leader mode activated I can see why they ended up choosing the youngest as a leader. Mino tried his best and I'm sure he would've done fine, but I think leadership quality is something you're either born with or you're not.
Bobby was such a baby-faced cutie!! I mean he's still cute but when he was talking to him mother and then cried... my heart... they are both so bright though... But mostly what I think about is how talented Hanbin has been from the beginning!! He kept growing as a leader too...he was already so good and he only became better!! Can't imagine how Bobby and Jinhwan have been feeling...
i like both team A and B, WINNER n IKON !!! don't give negative comments about them, they all so good,........ they have different colour,.. we can't compare each other!
that proud moment when in the middle of this video suddenly an ad popped up, an ad for iKON's asian tour / concert being held in 3 months. straight to the feeeeels. : " )
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민호 순딩한게 눈에 보임ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ리더라서 한번 쎄게 나왔다가 바로 삐지니까 승윤이 하는 말에 바로 끄덕끄덕...제가 많이 예민했던거같아요.... 이럼 ㅎㅎ 귀염딩
ㅇㅈ...ㅠㅠㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ너무 귀엽다
너무 기여음 ㅜㅠㅠ
송민호 은근히 여림
송민호는 리더감은 아닌거같아요ㅜ
이너써클인데 윈만보면 아이콘들도 더 응원해줘야겠다 생각되요. 두팀 응원하는게 생각만큼 쉽진 않지만...그래도 인서 아이코닉 더이상 싸우지말고 서로서로 아껴줘요~~ 두팬덤 힘합치면 우리애들 더 날수있잖아요 ㅠㅠ 애들 쨘함
When Bobby cried watching his mom's face, I also cried a lot. Now Bobby debuted, and his family is now living with him in Seoul. I feel so proud of him
Woow really ooo so happy for him
Me too. They deserve everything. Bobby always makes me cry. Aigooooo.
He also made me cry, I couldn't imagine being apart from my family for more than a month, but he's been away for 3 years(at the time of this video). I hope he spends lots of time with is family now🤗
Me too
sj min great i know where live now me gonna go find him and lock him in my bikes peddal
the way Bobby cries breaks my heart :(
Right lol from that moment when he became my bias
Pinkrevenge101 aww yeah :( he looks like he wants to smile and laugh but he cant contain the emotions
+Sally Qashana I cried watching that part, we all know how he misses his family so much during that time.
SAME! I DON'T USUALLY CRY WATCHING THINGS LIKE THIS, BUT IT CLOSE TO HOME AND THE TEARS FELL!
우는 거 보니까 괜히 짠하고,, 별로 관심 없는 애들이지만 그냥 본인 하는 일 행복하게 하고 살면 좋겠다
양현석 진짜 틀린 말 하는 건 아닌데 어쩜 저렇게 듣는 사람 기분 나쁘게 말하냐..돌려말해도 알아들을 거고 부드럽게 말해도 쪽팔릴텐데 너무ㅏ네
ㅇㅈ합니다
양싸는 말을 해도 꼭 저렇게 ..
저자리가 원래 저런자리인거에요
그냥 부모님 생각하면 되는거임 다 자식 잘되길바래서 하는 말이지만 그말이 다 좋게들릴순 없음 저런식의 피드백이 당장은 기분 나쁘고 맘상할순있어도 후에
피가되고 살이되는거임 특히 이이돌이라는 직업은 더더욱 그렇고
다만 최근 양씨는 그냥 피드백을 넘어선
임신공격발언까지 해서 그게 문제인거지
ㅇㅈ합니다
그니까 우리 진우한테 ㅈ같이 말하는거 거슬리노 양아저씨
And on this day, Bobby became my iKON bias.
SAME!!!!
A
ai ni 😘 coz me too 🙌😄 he's everything ❤️
me too 😂😂 bob is so cute😍😍
Me too..he's so handsome..attractive..😍😍😍
B.I, you're the most awesome guy i ever saw in my life, TEAM B FOREVER
Teo Xi B.I "awesome guy" (nickname in ikon tv) haha
and Now he's gone😭😭💔
He definitely is💕
Biniee🥺💞
Tablo has amazing eyes and ears for music: "Team A for singing and Team B for dancing". He got it all right.
Lou Lou Maybe bc he's been in the industry for a long time alr
@@eunicejoy1136 true🤓
But now team b aka iKON have both,perfect 😊
@@evynollzy3139 no
@@akuaboatmaa2572 ainters gonna aint 😏
Bobby is so fucking precious i just want to wrap him in a burrito of hugs and love
same
This aged so well :)
What i really think is that, Hanbin is the one of the most remarkable leader in WHOLE KPOP INDUSTRY
Joy Esguerra YES!!! AND THE TEAMWORK IS AMAZING
💔😔
then what about GD? don't say "WHOLE KPOP INDUSTRY" if you only know one boyband ☺
Momoi Momozono that was just “their” opinion. Idt they meant anything bad by it & that’s ok, don’t take offense. You and I can agree that both GD & BI are the greatest & best leaders of any boy groups 🤪😄
@@momoimomozono6468 joy said 'one of the most'
so Bobby came to Korea when he was around 15 y.o. by himself? daymn, this kid has a lot of motivation, I'm 20 & I need to learn from him...
IKR. I can't even go ride a plane without my family haha. he is very independent.
So youre 26 or 27 now? ㅋㅋㅋ
@@lifeofafangirl2935 yeah, I'm turning 26 this year haha wow, time really flies!
@@narusasu136 im 17 now and I will find this comment after 5 years HAHAHHAHAA
Have you learn to be motivate from Bobby? :))) I’m 27. It’s my first time to watch this now. Kinda of, emotional and sad.
I don't know, I feel like the only one who legit loved Team B from the start. Hanbin really brought out the best in the group, in terms of choreo and stage presence IMO
not only you, I love Team B (a.k.a.iKON) since day one WIN Program.
+Faith Farmer you're not the only one... ever since i watched WIN... i'm rooting for Team B... triple Kim is really the foundation of ikon...
you're not the only one.
i think papa yg really wants to debut team b first but he must consider everything including the popularity of the individual members of team a and their age. (anyway, im happy with ikon and winner now haha)
Hello Sunshine I
Watching it again after All those shits about Hanbin happened. I miss our leader B.I... Who's with me?
Irene Edith May Lontoc same :(((
me
Meeee
Irene Edith May Lontoc ohh i thought bi was at ur house rn
I think b.i more free to make music rn
송민호가 리더자리는 뭔가 부담감이 컸던듯. 강승윤 이승훈처럼 의견 조율하는것보단 부담없이 아이디어를 제공하는쪽이어야 좋은 결과물이 나오는 스타일. 그래도 저 당시 모습 보니 성향에 안맞는 일이라도 잘해보려고 노력하는게 지금의 성공을 가져온듯. 남태현은 윈때도 불안한 모습이었네; 탈퇴한게 마냥 놀라운 일은 아닌것같다. 나아지겠지, 잘되면 원하는거 하겠지 하다가 도망간것같은데 지금은 나름 하고싶은 음악하며 사니까 잘지내겠지뭐
ㅇㅈ팀이랑 성격도 안맞아보이고 자기가 원하는 음악은좀 발라드? 잔잔한거같은데,,목소리도 그렇고,,성격도 나쁘단게 아니라 단체생활 못하는거 같음,,
그치 초창기 위너랑 남태 나가고 4너랑 색깔이 확 바뀐것만 봐도 추구하는 음악적 성향이 정반대였고 형들이 많이 양보했었다는걸 알수있음
이미 한번 데뷔하다 실패한 맴버로써 부담감 엄청 컸을 듯
ㄹㅇ 세게 말했다고 형들 앞에서 벌떡 일어나서 문 닫고 나가고 진짜 사회생활 쉣 더 퍽 이다... 좋게 좋게 말해줘도 자기 혼자 급발진해서 분위기 다 망치면서
@@user-po5th1le3t 인정ㅋㅋ 근데 남태현 쟤도 최대 좋게 말했는데도 민호형이 저리 말한거 보면 평상시에도 맘에 안드는 짓거리를 한 게 다 보임ㅋㅋ
그 동안 참고 견뎌줘서 고마워요! 위너와 아이콘 모두 흥해라!
I think that the reason why Papa YG is so harsh on the members of both teams is not to only work on their weakness and strengths and sharpen them, but to prepare them for what the Entertainment industry can do to them. They need to be thick-skin and be assertive in their work, cause' the Entertainment Industry is not all "lights, sparkles and glitter" People are going to criticize their work no matter what/do dirty tricks to bring them down. So going back to their training and advice from YG, YG is doing his job right. That's just the way I think of it ^^
A yesss with the way things are now the world post-debut is 1000000x harsher and volitile than anything yg says/does
That's EXACKLY what i am thinking~~
Yeah, that's why he is more harsh to 2NE1 bec. they r girls. Alot of people will criticize them more than the boys. That's why 2NE1 is still stronger even if they disbanded. Their presences still remain
I agree
I think this comment match in yg treasure box too especially in choi hyunsuk
항상 자기가 질 생각은 하지도 않는 바비...긍정의 힘 멋있어
아 솔직히 이런 생각 들면 안되는데 이거 볼때마다 아니 그렇게 되고 싶어했으면서 비아이한테 계속 헛웃음만 남 ㅠㅠㅠㅠ 마음아파..ㅠㅠ
if gd and taeyang had baby, it would look like minho
Thats what I have been saying
and he's voice is almost the same as TOP. lol
he's basically a magical love child of everything we adore in yg.
IKR and his dorkiness is same as seungri LOL
yaassss!
현석이의 보물 자랑
yg made the right decision in making seungyoon the leader instead. Mino is so easygoing and just wants to have fun so he doesn't know how to balance being his fun self with being a leader. seungyoon seems to take the leader role as being someone who monitors the group but doesn't try to steer them too much.
agree. There are just some people who got powerful talents but not meant to lead a group.
As much as I adore Mino (he's my bias) it just didn't work with him a the leader. Look at how KSY talked to him after the way he talked to Taehyun, he's so natural at it. Mino is better in a position with a little less responsibility and stress I think.... Also I screamed when Zico appeared lol
Yeah I guess that's why the leader got changed. Mino doesn't really suit leader position. If he had become a leader, he couldn't be as playful and goofy as he is now. So it all worked out it in the end
I agree with this. I think he's better as an artist if he's not the leader. has more freedom and doesn't have to carry the stress of the team. worked out for him but hopefully he doesn't feel bad about it even 4-5 years later lol.
Yea agreed. Minho seems to have temper. Btw the leader got changed because Minho's leg injured
Mino is my ult bias too and leader position was not for him, and I'm glad it changed since his mental health is unstable now. KSY is easy to self-sacrifice which is the most important quality of a leader. Mino and Taehyun are the type of artists that shouldn't be boxed because it suffocates their artistic side. It worked out for mino since his style is YG but not for taehyun.
even though a lot of people said YG is team B bias, somehow, in this ep, I can sense that YG really puts an effort for the A Team to build teamwork which is important in winning.
i think that too, i even think that this show is seted up kkk~ bcz for some reason why only mino and seunghoon that have YG shirt with their name on it lol
Because they're so die hard YG stans. hahaha
👏👏
사장님 다른 팀에서 빌려온 애같다는 말은 진짜 너무 상처가 되는말이에요....제발 앞으로 비판은 하되,가수들에게 심한 상처는 주지말아주세요.사장님이 가수들 많이 아끼는거 알아요.근데 사장님이 아끼는 맘으로 한 말이 가수에게 큰 상처가 될 수도있어요.
Watching Taehyun crying breaks my heart, my baby don't cry, I don't know why I'm even torturing myself by watching WIN for the 76567234 time :'(
I miss WINNER so freaking much, comeback soon!
+ileana ochoa haha same, im watching win again cus i cant wait for winners comeback but it just gets be teary watching it again ;((
oHiTz Yuu Yes, it's so heartbreaking! I'm I'm sure I'll watch it over and over again, since WINNER won't comeback this year for sure :'(
It was! :D can't wait for EXIT:X!!
바비 송민호 이때부터 쇼미각나오너
Arg. Bobby "I'm meant to a superstar. Train me well. Thank you." That's the spirit bro 😍😍 I just fell inlove
I feel like YG knows that team A will get the most public votes and the actual reason he did this show was to gain fans for both teams first before debuting them.... Isn't it clear?
+Ryu Shania what a cruel marketing strategy.
Yes I thought so too!! He showcased both teams on tv so no matter the turn out, the losing team will still have garnered fans and YG can't just throw them away hence they will still debut.
Yes I thought so too!! He showcased both teams on tv so no matter the turn out, the losing team will still have garnered fans and YG can't just throw them away hence they will still debut.
It broke my heart when Mino lost the title of leader but I am glad he did because he seems so much more at ease without it and Seungyoon makes an awesome leader so it all worked out also I love this episode because it's when I realized just how much I love Taehyun's vocal color
Jas A feel like seungyoon was doing most of the leader stuff anyways..haha. Mine is just mino the groups vitamin :)
thanks for spoiling. 😒
baezah aww its okay..I knew minho wasn't the leader before watching it and still loved it, it doesnt take from the overall experience
2022 and yes It happened for a reason. Mino well-being rn is not healthy he has insomia and overthinks a lot. Even cried when he talked to a psychiatrist. If he was the leader I think he will not be able to manage himself and the group.
OK!!! Bobby, B.I and Jin-hwan showered together when it just them three.... good to know it
That's why they're single lol
i love minho, but im glad kang seunghyun is the leader now.. cuz i cant imagine if TOP becomes bigbang's leader! haha! so minho is a bit like top! playful!
ikr. Bigbang is gonna be in chaos if TOP will lead them haha!
lol ! You're comment killed me XD me too, i cant imagine top as a leader it will be a disaster XD
hanymarc ahahaha!! awesome comparison! totally agree
hahahah
Disbanded i think ..hahah ..TOP does not have the aura of being a leader even a little bit ..
Tablo is so spot on, he'd be a good music show judge! He even pointed out that mino is a mix of GD & Yongbae lol
I can see Nam Taehyun's depression now T_T
In the past I thought he was crying because he felt stressed and stuff but not til that degree T_T
We will always love you and miss you Nam Taehyun
Melanie Diaz what happened to him did he suicide??
@@gdragon556 Nam Tae-hyun is still alive, he have now his own band
@@gdragon556 he left winner and yg due to depression
@@renalikurgpold4424 oh he's in a new band now? May i know the name?
@@TaraNaMhie South Club is his band name
진짜 다양한 눈높이로 보고있넼ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
진짜 바비는 진짜 눈물샘이다..ㅠ
I love B.I, his confident about his talent, but he isn't vain. Love love love!! Please YG, keep him. Losing him will be your biggest mistake!!!
ReadyRad
What now??? 😭😭😭
And this happened.😥
They lost him now 💔
he lost it already 😭
Hmm keep praying and support to him comeback
This is when mnet and yg still are friends
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ미칭 지코나와서 깜짝놀랐네 이때도 둘이친했네 오키도키요
송민호 블락비 원년멤버.....
아이콘이팀워크쩌는게 눈에띄게보이네
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Ikon you have worked hard... You have been through a lot.. some people are immature enough to hate you.. but you know? you all are talented... you all improved a a lot.. vocal, dancing, visual .. or whatever you all are great.. I was not there to support you from the start.. but i promise you.. I'll support you and love you forever..!!! team b you were destined to have your precious maknea Chanwoo.. that's why you didn't win this.. IKON.. SAEANGHE...!!!!
YG is brilliant for making this show. Imo he did it to showcased both teams to gain exposure. Even JYP said along the same line. The reason YG can confidently put both team into a survival show and leaving the decision to audiences shows that he have confidence in both teams. It's near impossible to disband the losing team because they are already exposed and should already garner fans so YG wouldn't just waste them away. It really is a marketing strategy.
Vee Less You're certainly right, but the guys are not in on it. It's hard to see them truly despair over a little trick like this.
Tifeleeyah Wilder ikr. These ppl can be heartless
진우도열심히 해라! 임자도 왕자님 화이팅!!! 울지말구...
35:48 seungyoon always had the sensibilities of a leader. compassionate yet firm, always with a clear goal behind his actions. :))
+SparkzMxzXZ can you pls translate what exactly happened? what did mino say to taehyun, and what did seungyoon say to mino about it? and what did mino say to the camera in the interview after wards? please let me know!
+Damla Unlu oh you can turn on the subs using the cc button! but anyway taehyun was saying he thought mashing 3 songs for their dance cover is too much. and mino said "then what do you suggest we do" but he said it quite aggressively. seungyoon tells mino that when he comes on too strongly the reaction (of the other person) would not be good. he also says that although mino has been with them for 3 years, he did join team a last and team a has already built their own dancing style. mino says "i was feeling too rushed and only meant to be encouraging. i didn't have to say it like that but it came out too strong. it came out this way because i was too on edge. i don't know it's really complicated"
SparkzMxzXZ ohh thanks so much XD and no the subs were on but i think my wifi was being faulty but thanks anyway!!
@@SparkzMxzXZ to be honest, I feel that Taehyun is too sensitive. I've heard that Taehyun really isn't a hardened person. but I really like taehyun, he is very talented and also handasome 🤭😍.
Still can't believe taehyun was depressed in this era and still is
Just continue support him. Is what he need, not bashing words towards YG, this doens't help him at all. Support Nam Taehyun and Winner
why taehyun leave winner?
근데 저기는 진짜 말그대로 양육강식의 법칙이 따를곳인데...저도 양싸 그다지 별로지만..연예계 기획사 진짜 한번 가보세요..저거보다 더 심하게 말합니다..우리도 사회생활 처음하면은 싫은솔리 다 듣잖아요..그거를 버티고 이겨내는 건데...양싸를 옹호 하려는건 아니지만..저렇게 말할수 밖에는 없엇을겁니다..
이 실력 좋은 두 팀은 위너와 아이콘이 되었습니다......
남태현:뉴데이도 좋아요
남태현:안맞는거같아...(?????)
YG: "A lot of the staff, including Teddy, really like Taehyun"
ME TOO!
I just started stanning iKON three days ago after listening to Love Scenario. And it really pisses me off whenever I read comments about the group is mainly consists of Kim trio and the other 3(now 4) are just sidelines or extras. All of them are talented and iKON is not complete w/o 1 member missing. My bias is Junhoe but I love all the other members. And I think that's the beauty of stanning them, they really has the charisma.
my thoughts exactly. junhoe is my bias too haha
Girl we the same kathniel x ikonic
Omgeee same here. I became a fan days ago because of Love Scenerio too and Junhoe is my bias
And now IKON missing they precious leader 😭
죽어라 하네 인생에 대충느낌 들때마다 이거 보고 마음 고쳐잡는다
Came here to rewatch WIN after IKON won best song, BI best song writer 😭😭 the humble beginnings from Team B to tonight’s momentous awards. ❤️❤️❤️ love all these boys.
21:45 미노가 승윤이 귀 긁어주는 것 같음
애기바비 웃으면서 우는거 마음찢어져ㅠㅠ
아오씨 1화에선 진우땜에 울고 2화에선 태현이랑 바비때문에 울고 이게 머야 넘 슬프어.. 엉ㅇ어ㅠㅠ
Watching again because of Zico. He had good points there. I love Zico and Mino :)
I really miss this era...
The friendship of the three KIM.. the friendship of A team and B team..... now theyre winner and iKON..
Im always thinkin about B.I's hardwork as a leader pls.. let him return to his family-iKON..
the subs are not in sync OMG so annoying
+esmeeeyy loves kpop oh yes
i thought the problem was on my laptop lol
No its the video
+esmeeeyy loves kpop So true
Yeah but, let's just be thankful that we have subs.. (Even it is not in-sync ^_^)
Tablo's got like an angel tongue (Filipino's idiom which means 'what you said would come true'). Team A wins because individually they have unique talents the problem is they lack of team work that's why they have here full adjustments to each other. I like how Seungyoon confronted Minho and voiced out or communicated clearly to him about his approach to his team. I remember what the face reader or their fortune telling in their WINNER TV about Taehyun that he can't control by anyone in his team, well, I can clearly see it in this episode.
한창 감수성 예민한 나이의 애들을 데리고 이런다는 게 넘 웃김. 그리고 연습생들은 왜 가족도 못만나게 하는 지 제일 이해가 안감. 근데 양현석 왤케 거만 쩔어- 그리고 4,8년 빅뱅 투애니원 애기하는데 이제 뽑을만큼 뽑았다는거네. 최소한 아이들 인격적으로 존중을 바탕으로 엄격하게 해야지. 이게 뭐야 도데체. 이러니 탈퇴하는거임.
i just love the maturity of KSY and Seunghoon ..while Jinwoo is a good listener..agh Maknae!! Nam being a maknae hahahha just like what KSY mentioned before nam taehyun is so immature and only thinks about himself (before)..but thanks to KSY and the rest of the members understanding and guidance look at them now, so mature and chill..taehyun become more responsible and loving towards his hyungs..even though WIN era is so hearbreaking, it is just so nice to look back and see their growth both Teams are such a great artists i wish them all the best...esp to my WINNER
Continue support Winner and Nam Taehyun!
Bashing words towards YG doens't help anyone!!
이걸보면 왜 남태현이 뛰쳐나왔는지 알겠네 음악스타일도 다르고 지적같은 걸로 자존감이나 자신감 같은 것도 떨어져있고
지금 남태현이 사우스클럽에 있는게 좀 더 자신의 스타일에 맞는 선택인것 같아요.
I just pray taeyhun and hanbin is okay. They deserve so much love and support
진짜... 에피소드 1부터 느낀 건데 출연진들 다 너무 대단하고 닮고 싶다
Woooo~ I cried when Bobby was Skyping with his mom and the rest of his family. My eyes got watery and I couldn't help it. It tugs at my heartstrings whenever I see someone that is far away from their family because I can relate. I haven't seen my mom in almost five years.
+Brenda x Aww, I hope you could have a chance to see her again.
두팀 모두 좋지만 개인적으로 A팀...♥
바비 오디션 영상보고 진심 눈물남
I Just want to thank everyone who supported and loved Team B since WIN era...
Without you, i wouldn't meet the best group ever in history, IKON!!! (it's my opinion so pls let me be, peace out ) Again from the bottom of my heart thank you! :)
Anyways it's fate that Team A won and became Winner, if not Chanwoo won't be in IKON. and iKON won't be this epic performers now, so win win for all of us:)
❤️
Love u iKONIC❤
Jinwoo words must be really pure and comes to his heart, whenever he says something it happens... When he said "I will become WINNER" I had the vibe that his words are strong and deep that he will really do his best for the sake of his family and members and his ambition. And for the first time Team A won was on Jinwoo's birthday. And now that they are already Winner and promoting EXIT:E , Seungyoon had mentioned that they let Jinwoo listen first about their songs.
와..애들이 저리 정성을 다해 인사하는데 안 받는 인성..안 받기도 힘들텐데..
Im a new fan. Seeing iKon chemistry between his members specially Hanbin Jinhwan and Bobby kills my heart because of what is happening right now. Stay strong Hanbin ❤
Honestly this set of artists are artist not just idol. It’s a shame that people are sleeping on them. Winner and iKON are a whole lot package itself. They literally a gem. Their talent are overflowing to just even called them as idols. Coz the my are ARTISTS
😭😭
21:14 지용아 6년연습하고 집에갈래 급의 현석이의 주옥같은 드립
I remembered, this episode was the reason why I become a Team B fan and why Bobby become my first bias in Team B(Ikon).
This episode was when Nammie became my bias and it hasn't changed since, his voice, the music he writes even his fashion choices are exactly my style😍😍
Why is no one talking about Triple Kim.
okay, Triple Kim is Awesome! :)
yeaah. they're awesome ^^
Dreamer Triple Kim i love it!!!!!!
Yesss they're awesome!!
After watching this, I feel like YG already knew that Team A was going to debut :/ I don't know... and even for Mix and Match I felt like he knew all of the Team B members were going to debut together. I don't know.. YG is just... suspicious.
Totally Agree. He seems to already know from the start that team A would debut first and team B later (also considering their age?). His business mind is sick. He knows how to direct public attention and create the crowd enough to support them when they finally debut. Scary and admirable at the same time.
that's why YG ent is powerful
Yes, win, and mix&match are just a program to rise popularity from both team.
Lol i dont think so. Have you seen yg's expression when team A was announced as the WINNER? He was surprised...
@@marellayzellemariano6979 yeah.. he didn't want to comment even when Daesang asked him to say a few words.
바비귀여워ㅠㅠㅠㅠ
오랜만에 봤는데 뭔가 이때가 그립다ㅠㅠㅠ
근데 지금도 위너 그리고 아이콘 사랑해💕응원한다❤️
watch this after watching Mix and Match....and wow IKON there teamwork and friendship was so strong right from the start..and I guess Mix and match will make there bond more stronger....it was not a surprise things that they are crying in mix and match....I know not letting them win here is one of the best choice coz even winner win and debut and as Im an Ikonic even though those days it might be hard for them...But it was what makes me love ikon more for going through another survival programme...and yea Chanwoo can joint them too..❤
CEO's really have this dynamic aura.I mean when YG speaks, his voice is so soft and placid. When you look at him at first glance, he looks harmless enough but you can see a change in him every time he gives out criticisms or comments about the trainees. It's also similar with JYP.
wew, being a trainee is indeed tough.@_@
Watching in 2018..😍 IKON bought me to YGSTAN
calem018 same here 💃
Same hahahahha
Same here😍
calem018 welcome..but now YG family is not family anymore 🤣
being a YGStan it means you support ALL THE ARTIST in YG. if you support only one, please don't call yourself as YGStan ☺
13:05 아이콘 킹덤 소식에 믹매랑 윈 다시 보는데 다시 보니까 저 어린 나이에 저런 위험한 안무를 했었네... 처음 볼 때는 몰랐는데 몇년 지나서 보니까 진짜 이때 다 애기들이었어..ㅜ
Here I am watching this to rewind iKON's struggles back then. This storm shall pass too. Hanbin-ah, please come back, you are the only one who can lead iKON
I personally LOVE Winner and Ikon so much so watching this gave me so much mixed feelings. It's so hard for me to watch this honestly. It's so heartbreaking to see them cry ;-;. And I feel that not a lot of people like team B and it really hurts..
I get to know winner first and I don't know ikon much so when I watch this program I am being biased. I can't choose which team to support wholeheartedly. So I'm watching this while supporting both teams and wishing the best for both!!
Btw why do you feel a lot of people doesn't like team B?
+Azee M me too! I watched this to get to know both. :)
i personally like iKON more then winner and it's sad to see people not giving them the attention they deserve :(
P.S. i also like winner but iKON is my bias group so yeah
Team B had a great teamwork rather than team A In this show . We can see how great bi leading his team .. I can say confidently among YG artist hanbin were the best leader are alongside with GD ..
he always wants the spotlight for himself. how is that a great leader?
@@marimarauh807 LOL, he the best leader (after GD), he think first in his members and help them a Lot.
@@marimarauh807 wth? Since when he ever wanted the spotlight for himself? Lmao
Oh he never did babe. He work harder than ever for who? For his team. And for what? So that everyone can shine as bright. He's harsh and strict while practicing. He points out every mistakes that his member make. For what? To help them, the team, and himself to be better. Even his member said that BI has more stress than anyone.
How can you say that he wants the spotlight for himself? That's annoying to read ..
@@marimarauh807 wtf? Hanbin is the most hard-working and dedicated leader in kpop. The members themselves chose him to be the leader because he always led them well. So shut up hater :)
@@marimarauh807 seems like you don't know anything about him huh.. anyways, bark whenever you want 😘
ㅋㅋㅋㅋ혐석이... 바로 몇달뒤에 데뷔시키지않앗니?ㅎ
앙 앙 ㅋ
역시 혐석이ㅋ
So basically jinan, hanbin, bobby been together for almost 10 years😭 it must be hard for them to lose hanbin😭their friendship is not a joke!! ❤
Okay I've picked my bias from team A: Taehyun 😊
A.R.M.Y Llama Episode 4 with JYP was the first episode that I've ever seen because I wanted to see Got7 as fetuses. And out of all the YG trainees Taehyun, Jinhwan and Minho stood out the most to me. Taehyun because of his hair (it's awesome), Jinhwan because his face is adorable and Minho because he looks like Taeyang.
Em Rachel lol this is a very very late reply but yeah taehyun stood out for me because of his hair and eyebrows, jinwoo because he just has this face I can't describe XD and from team b bi and bobby because that's the two most talked person haha
이때부터 실질적인 리더는 강승윤이었네...
20:42 양현석 보는 눈은 진짜 경이롭네
The part where Bobby talked to his mom made me cry so much 😭💔
And now looking back at it again makes me so proud of him.
Literally son goals 😭❤️
I miss hanbin bobby jinny dodo yoyo junjun so much! I so proud of team b:) I trust hanbin; he can lead his team to be better and stronger in future! Forever team b ♥ ♥ ♥ plz debut team b asap!!!!
27:05 this moment. Seeing your family all together through the screen.
You'll smile and seem to be happy when it's actually killing you. Sometimes i turn off the video so that they won't see me crying. It's so hard.. I miss my family I miss my momm. I miss the hugs that will make you feel loved. 😢
i feel like im bobby, i have to move back to the philippines to study college, my family is in calif. i live here by myself too since i was 16. its tough, when i finally graduate college, i felt envy since all my classmate are with their family, and the only person who went with me on my graduation day was my auntie. people say im the happiest person, but sometimes i just feel lonely like bobby. :'( oppa figting, going to support winner and ikon
Hope you're doing well and you're back with your fam!
35:25 -- Seungyoon leader mode activated
I can see why they ended up choosing the youngest as a leader. Mino tried his best and I'm sure he would've done fine, but I think leadership quality is something you're either born with or you're not.
I feel so bad for these boys
Survival was physically, mentally and emotionally straining
Bobby was such a baby-faced cutie!! I mean he's still cute but when he was talking to him mother and then cried... my heart... they are both so bright though... But mostly what I think about is how talented Hanbin has been from the beginning!! He kept growing as a leader too...he was already so good and he only became better!! Can't imagine how Bobby and Jinhwan have been feeling...
i like both team A and B, WINNER n IKON !!! don't give negative comments about them, they all so good,........ they have different colour,.. we can't compare each other!
that proud moment when in the middle of this video suddenly an ad popped up, an ad for iKON's asian tour / concert being held in 3 months. straight to the feeeeels. : " )