입덕 전에 보고 입덕 후에는 보면 맘 찢일 것 같아서 못보다가 처음보는데 진짜 잔인하고 ㅇㅎㅅ웃으면서 말하는거 못돼 처먹어보인다 저 간절한 애들 저렇게 힘들게 데뷔시켰으면 일이라도 제대로 해주던가 위너 신인 때 공백기 1년반을 주고 고생시키고 그 고생 지금까지 이어져 오는 거 보면 너무 짠하고 꼴뵈기싫음 위너도 그렇고 아이콘도 둘 다 실력 넘사인데 더 잘됐으면 좋겠다
와 진짜 지금 봐도... 이 프로그램이 더 잔인한 이유는 프듀는 어쩌면 일면식도 없던 사람들끼리 붙는데 윈은 살 부대끼면서 연습하던 애들 둘로 갈라놓고 하나만 데뷔시키겠다 한거임... 진짜 다시봐도 잔인하다 결국 둘 다 데뷔하긴 했지만 솔직히 난 지금 탈퇴한 남태현도 비아이도 별로 좋게 보진 않는데 이때를 보면 얼마나 간절했는지 보여서 안타깝다...... 데뷔 이후로도 여러 사건사고가 있었지만 두그룹 다 너무 응원하고 싶음
윈 프로그램 보면 진우가 너무 짠해서 눈시울이 붉어지기도 한다..ㅠㅠ 그래서 지금의 진우의 성장이 눈물나게 고맙고 또 고맙다~ 지금처럼 자신감있게 성장하기까지 얼마나 스스로를 채찍질하며 살았을까? 어린 나이에 정말 강인한 멘탈의 소유자가 아닐수 없다. 진우야~가수가 되어줘서 위너가 되어줘서 정말 고마워. 앞으로 탄탄대로만 달리자~!! 💙💙💙💙 강김송이 모두 사랑해~
YG is so smart. Everyone knew it was Team A that was going to be chosen by the public to debut, since one member in the group was already famous and the other one was training for the longest time. But he was planning to debut Team B anyway, so even if they weren't chosen as the Winner, YG ended up increasing their popularity before their debut with the show.
After watching this, I realized YG should make gap in years in debut new group. For example, WINNER is crazy famous after debut but then YG put all the focused on IKON, then WINNER hiatus in 2015 and then BLACKPINK debut in 2016 then IKON become silent and have to go to JAPAN, all the focused go to BLACKPINK. its such a shamed bcoz WINKON is incredibly talented and famous back then, but YG strategies in debut group make their road become rough. Look back at BIGBANG and 2NE1 they have gap in each other so they can grow by that times Same to TREASURE, I hope YG make gap on them with the NYGG so that they can grow. Just my two cents opinions.
@@amelnurjana9108 if you look back to WIN, team A is more famous because seungyoon and seunghoon already famous before signed with YG that's why TeaM A win because WIN final totally based on voting back then. IKON also getting more recognition and becaome famous because of WIN that's why fans pushed YG to debut them faster. This two group is really talented and famous after debut but YG didn't focused on them after that and wasted them.
다른 회사랑 비교할 것도 없이 다음 세대인 트레저 서바이벌 프로그램만 봐도 실력차이가 확실하게 나는 느낌이랄까.. 딱 블랙핑크 데뷔할 때 까지 월말평가 영상만 봐도 YG연습생 실력이 엄청났음. 고난도 안무구성에도 자로 잰듯한 칼군무에 심지어 모든 무대를 본인들이 A 부터 Z까지 만들었다는 점에서 엄청난 클래스 차이가 났다고 봄. 당시에 김진우가 A,B팀 전체에서 가장 아쉬운 실력을 가지고 있었는데 지금 트레저 서바이벌 했던 친구들이랑 비교해보면 솔직히 중상위권 실력은 가지고 있다고 보이고, 시청자들도 이미 빅뱅이나 위너 아이콘을 통해서 봐 온 와이지의 실력이 있기에 더 아쉬워했으리라 생각이 드네요
트레저는 실력보다도, 기존 그룹들이 가진 자체적으로 만들어가는 느낌이 너무 약함. 님이 말했듯이 블핑까진 안무도 mr도 연습생이 직접 만들고, 그걸 트레이너가 검사하고 보강하는 느낌이었는데, 트레저는 그냥 트레이너가 시키는 대로 하는 느낌. 17년도까진 기존 방식대로 했던거 같은데, 18년도에 갑자기 그 방식이 바뀜. 달라진거라곤 데뷔조에서 주축 멤버였던 밀레니엄이 프로듀서로 전향하면서 빠진건데, 이 멤버가 작사, 작곡, 편곡, 안무 다 했어서, 그리 된거 같음 비팀에서 비아이 빠진 느낌이랄까...
So sad...B.I said the only way he knew to protect his members was to write and produce good music so they can be successful.....and that's what he's been doing......our songwriter of the year! Best leader!!
This was 2013 and B.I is carrying a lot of thoughts in his mind already. But surprisingly those thoughts are not only for him but for all his members. He sure is a great leader. 💕
at 17 i was stil playing video games and refusing to help around the house..while B.I. here has everything on his hands.... i felt so useless back when i was watching it back in 2013
I THINK YG PLANNED ALL OF THIS SINCE BOTH GROUPS ARE THE BEST NOW HE GOT WINNER, IKON AND WORLD STAR BLACKPINK HE JUST NEED 2NE1 BACK , GO BACK TO YG FAMILY NOT YG ENTERTAIMENT AND MAKE YG FAMILY CONCERT WITH ALL YG ARTIST
I was crying really hard when B.I was talking to the camera. Its just too much burden for a young boy like him to follow their dreams. God! They are one of the best now but why am i still crying 😭😭😭 I am always here fighting with you ikon 😭😭😭😭❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
if there's something I learned watching this kind of reality show is to have at least respect for Kpop singers cause what they go through to become an idol is no joke.
idol life is a stable job in korea.....IF you succeed....so a lot of dreamers are going for it.... unlike in my country.. even if you are in the industry you still struggle.
@@chariza13 its definitely not, you train so many years without being sure if you'll ever become an idol and when you do it's still hard because some groups never even make it big and end up disbanding after years of hard work, becoming an idol is a risk
In my honest opinion, i think Team A did better in terms of their singing even though Seunghoon had a mistake at the beginning. And Team B did better in terms of dancing and teamwork. YG is seriously cut-throat. It's sad knowing that Big Bang, 2NE1 and the other YG Family had to endure this much hardship and bluntness from YG but it's comforting to know that they all ended up great performers.
Why does this hurts more now? Knowing how hard Winner members had gone through even before they debuted in YGE. All the struggles and hates that were thrown at them, still they managed to surpass it all. Boys you've gone so far now and I'm so proud of all you. Happy 6th WINNERversary 😭💙
Why am I rewatching this? Even WINNER now is the winner, I feel sorry for them that they have to go through this process. In my opinion, This were the time that they dont know yet their group's music flavor. If you noticed, they are trying to fit in the known YG style music. I wonder how they will perform here if they already knew their music back then. I LOVE YOU WINNER. You deserve much love. Inseos will always be here for you.
Watching this again and thinking about how hard working Hanbin is. YG really never deserved him nor the other members. But Hanbin deserves a better company and opportunities. This is freaking killing me.
YG did help him actually. YHS actually threatened the Han so hee (the whistleblower) and asked her to inform the police that BI didn't consume the drugs. But YHS got caught for threatening her and some gambling charges and hence he resigned. He didn't resign because of Burning sun scandal or Seungri. BI left because he thought he would bring more harm to YG and the group if he stayed and hence he left on his own will. TBH, he could have been in hiatus for a year or till the verdict came out that he was innocent. But we can't comprehend what he was thinking. With or without B.I, iKON is still THAT group for me. I am rooting for them in Kingdom and hope they gain back their glory once again.
@@beeepositive5 i know the background of what happened as i followed everything thru and i am a ID myself. But I also know how YG was against IKON and everything that they went thru. They immediately deleted hanbin over everything while still having Seungri, which was what that threw me off and let me write this
@@beeepositive5 well i think he used it to save himself and not bi. If you have read the dispatch msgs. It's pretty clear that he didn't take it. But he was planning on. But he had witnessed her taking it with some others. Considering the fact that bi doesn't have much friends outside yg. It's pretty obvious.
Honestly, WIN's format is still better than YG treasure box. They battled as a team and not as an individual, which was a good opportunity to strengthen their teamwork more.
I came right back after 4 epic of treasure box. WIN’ program was def much more better. It has teams n less ppl competing,which allows us to understand n know more about the individual better. WIN has that touching factor. I can feel for the member before I even know them as WINNER & iKON
***** i agree that they may've come out stronger but imagine the inner turmoil and the possible mental problems the participants would've had to go through not to mention the fact that team b are all basically teenagers
Jinwoo is seriously a kind hearted boy. He is a survivor who went through all those elimination rounds. His team members were cut off one by one but he survived through here. He has talents and works very hard. Jinwoo really deserves to be where he is right now.
이 프로그램 나왔을 때가 벌써 10년 전이네요 그때 중학생이었는데 이 프로그램을 너무 좋아했어서 아직도 가끔 생각날 때 보러와요ㅎㅎ 지금 생각해보니 어차피 두 팀 다 데뷔시킬 거였으면서 양싸가 엄청 고생 시켰네.... 맘이 아프면서도 아직도 이걸 볼 때마다 얼마나 열심히 했는지가 느껴져서 많이 배우게 돼요 두 팀 다 너무 좋아했던 그룹이라 앞으로도 잘 됐으면 좋겠다 특히 아이콘은 우여곡절이 많았어서 그런지 맘속에 아픈 손가락처럼 남아있음ㅠㅠ 항상 응원해요
I'm a Blink and I'm okay Woah! A fellow blink :) We made a good move, dear. Since after spazzing them this last four says, I can finally declare myself a Blinkonic 😊😊😊
@@pinkonationsblinkonic_kn13 I also wanted to know who they are and where they started since I love Killing Me and recently started to stan them (when I say recently I litrally mean yesterday...It was love at first sight)
find the eXit Welcome to the family!! Its been three months when I first know about them and now, I'm a proud iKONIC and so excited for their concert in our country this november (bcoz Im coming). You should watch Mix & Match after this one. Enjoy watching 😊
전세계적으로 인기 인기 얻는 그룹을 만들고 싶다더니 둘 다 데뷔도 예정보다 늦게하고 데뷔하고 인기 얻으면 바로 공백기+해외로 돌리고 다시 뜰려하면 회사 내부 문제 터지고... 윈 때 부터 아이콘 킹덤 까지 다 챙겨본 위너,아이콘 팬인데 이건 진짜 너무한 거 아니냐ㅠㅠ 속상해 ... 이너서클🔵 아이코닉🔴 사랑입니다 YG 일 좀 하자!!!!
Came here to see how Dispatch decided to end this hardworking kid's future with things he might have done in the past while his mind was in a dark place. When someone says they want to do LSD to become a genius, we should help and give him support and not ruin his whole career Hanbin you worked hard!
K-entertainment industry is dark and heavily politicized. BI was the victim of something well beyond him with this "scandal" being released after someone sat on it for years to bring down the one idol company that won't be a mouthpiece/be censored by the new government administration.
Who else is back because of the news that ikon is joining the program "kingdom"... i cant believe that they have to go through another survival show again after they had made it until this far...
ever since i watched jinwoo and his determination and passion he has a spot in my heart till this day . it is been 3 or 4 years . lets rise jinwooya you deserve everything in this world and i am always give it to you . he may be not excellent but he has courage i always lost . he said given up is worse than failing .
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윈은 몇 번을 봐도 알고 봐도 ㄹㅇ 계속 보게 됨 서사가 하나같이 다 간절한 것도 그렇고 보고 나면 내 스스로 많은 생각을 하게 됨
진짜 ㅇㅈ 나를 돌아보게 되는 윈 프로그램임
윈을 볼 때마다 진우 자존감 낮은게 너무 잘 보여서 진짜 마음이 아프네.. 정말 힘들어했다는게 다 느껴진다. 자신이 짐이 될지도 모른다고 두려워하면서 연습하는게 너무너무 슬프네 지금은 잘 돼서 정말 다행이다.
청소하는핑구 지금은 자신감있게 활동해서 보기좋아요ㅠㅠ
이현진 ㅠㅠ착한 진으
너모착한울지누ㅠ
ㄹㅇ 주기적으로 봐줘야됨 연습생들 영상이 이렇게 재밌냐구요,, 진짜 이때 최고였는데 YG,,,
ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 저도 한달에 한번씩 오는중
빅뱅 다큐랑 윈은 레전드ㅎㅎ
2022년도인 지금까지도 생각날 때마다 한 번 씩 찾아와서 봄...벌써 몇 번 째 보는건지...대사도 외우겠음ㅋㅋㅋㅋ😅😅
@@quack965 저두여 ㅋㅋㅋㅌ
입덕 전에 보고 입덕 후에는 보면 맘 찢일 것 같아서 못보다가 처음보는데 진짜 잔인하고 ㅇㅎㅅ웃으면서 말하는거 못돼 처먹어보인다 저 간절한 애들 저렇게 힘들게 데뷔시켰으면 일이라도 제대로 해주던가 위너 신인 때 공백기 1년반을 주고 고생시키고 그 고생 지금까지 이어져 오는 거 보면 너무 짠하고 꼴뵈기싫음 위너도 그렇고 아이콘도 둘 다 실력 넘사인데 더 잘됐으면 좋겠다
B.I seriously never changes at 14 and still looking the same at 21
his eyes changed i think, he's more calm(? now
😣😣😣
일단 이때는 독기품은 리더가 각 팀에 있었고 빅뱅을 이을 차세대 주자라는 점에서 분명히 많은 부담감이 있었을 거고 무려 빅뱅 이후 8년 만에 보이그룹을 런칭하는 거였어서 언제 다시 데뷔할지 모르는 불안함에 더욱 열심히 했던 것 같다 아무튼 위너 아이콘 대단했다
이때까지만 해도 우리나라 기획사 연습생들이 다 이렇게 하는 줄 알았는데 프듀 나오고나서 보니깐 위너, 아이콘이 걍 ㅈㄴ잘했던거구나라고 생각했지
ㅋㅎㅋㅎㅋㅎㅎㅋㅎㅋㅇㅈㅇㅈ 와쥐 가수들이 괜히 실력있는게 아님 다른데 보면 가관
ㄹㅇ 보석함이랑도 다름
간절함이나 실력이나 윈이 압도적임
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프듀 보석함 보면서 아 윈때는 진짜 어마어마하게 대단한 거였구나.. 느꼈죠 ㅠㅠ
애네들은 그냥 아마추어때도 프로였음 ㅋㅋ
와 진짜 지금 봐도... 이 프로그램이 더 잔인한 이유는 프듀는 어쩌면 일면식도 없던 사람들끼리 붙는데 윈은 살 부대끼면서 연습하던 애들 둘로 갈라놓고 하나만 데뷔시키겠다 한거임... 진짜 다시봐도 잔인하다 결국 둘 다 데뷔하긴 했지만 솔직히 난 지금 탈퇴한 남태현도 비아이도 별로 좋게 보진 않는데 이때를 보면 얼마나 간절했는지 보여서 안타깝다...... 데뷔 이후로도 여러 사건사고가 있었지만 두그룹 다 너무 응원하고 싶음
전에 볼땐 아이콘 저리 어렸는지 몰랐음
지금은 모든 노랠 다 아는 팬이고 갑자기 보고싶어서 윈 믹매 정주행하려는데 목소리가 완전 애기들이네
저 어린 나이에 꿈만보고 달리는 모습 너무 감동적이고 또 애들 너무 매력적임
솔직히 위너 팬이지만 이 서바이벌을 처음부터 끝까지 본 사람이라면 위너와 아이콘 둘다를 좋아할 수 밖에 없을 것 같다...
둘다 잘되길 바라는 마음이 생기는 것 같다.
보석함 보다가 윈 보니까ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ진짜 느낌부터 다름 진짜 간절함이 느껴지고 실력도 정말 말도 안된다.....아이콘은 특히 평균나이 17이라니 진짜 다시 한번 콘부심 느끼고갑니다!!위너아이콘 역시 대단하다♥
보석함 보니까 진우가 YG장수생이었다는 그 사실 자체로도 진짜 대단한 거였다는. 버틴다고 버텨지는 회사가 아니라 아닐 거 같으면 방출하는 데인데 방출되지 않고 남아있었다는 것이 YG가 원하는 그 무엇인가를 갖고 있었다고 밖에.
스타성
솔직히 김진우얼굴이면
Sm에서도1타로탐냄
근데 너무 잘생기긴햇어...와이지상은 아니지만 필요하지 첨에 무슨 일본배우인줄
진지하게 그냥 sm갔으면 바로 데뷔였을것 같은데 ㅋㅋ
진우랑 아버지 만나는 모습은 열 번을 봐도 열 번 다 눈물나온다..
오랜만에 다시봐야겠어 내사랑 위너, 우리 진우 군대 조심해서 갔다오길 :)
볼때마다 비아이 안타까움...B팀도....비아이한테 의지 많이 했던거 같던데
다시 맘 잡으면 응원해주고 싶다
이거보면 사람은 어떻게 될지모른다 .
이승훈은 저렇게 대차니까 정말 간절히 원했던 와이지에서 데뷔했네
김진우는 첨에 얘는 실력이...좀 이랬는데 막상 위너 노래 나오니까 김진우 목소리 너무 좋고 귀에 맴돔
ㅇㅈ a팀에서 강승윤 남태현 보컬이 너무 쌨음
널 좋아해~
윈 프로그램 보면 진우가 너무 짠해서 눈시울이 붉어지기도 한다..ㅠㅠ 그래서 지금의 진우의 성장이 눈물나게 고맙고 또 고맙다~ 지금처럼 자신감있게 성장하기까지 얼마나 스스로를 채찍질하며 살았을까? 어린 나이에 정말 강인한 멘탈의 소유자가 아닐수 없다. 진우야~가수가 되어줘서 위너가 되어줘서 정말 고마워. 앞으로 탄탄대로만 달리자~!! 💙💙💙💙 강김송이 모두 사랑해~
YG is so smart. Everyone knew it was Team A that was going to be chosen by the public to debut, since one member in the group was already famous and the other one was training for the longest time. But he was planning to debut Team B anyway, so even if they weren't chosen as the Winner, YG ended up increasing their popularity before their debut with the show.
What he didn't predict was all the hate Team B/iKON was going to gain because of this contest.
@@chatnoir60609 they got hate because of this contest??
Why??
True :((
chatnoir60609 ikr
Yeah I know he's genius after all hahah
와.. 보물함인가 뭔가 보고 오니까... 위너랑 아이콘이.. 연습생때부터 개멋있었네...
인둉....
보물함 애들이랑 임하는 자세와 노력과 실력의 정도가 진짜 천지차이다...
이재 보물함 아니구 보석함이에요 ~^^
ㅋㅋㅋㅋ그러네요ㅋㅋ
닉넴할게없다 네 편집을 그렇게 해서 그런진모르겟는데 윈애들(AB팀)보다는 연습하는게
적게 나와요
통편집이에요 잘 알려진 애들은 많이 나오는데....ㅜ
@@hannommanpanda0 방예담이요...?
강승윤이 진짜 노력파구낭.. 저때도 이미 스타였는데.. 다시 팀으로 처음부터 하다니..ㄷㄷ
who is back here after YG Treasure Box ep 1 =)))))))
ha ngo Me. .
Yes! I already have Team A and Team J as my bias. I can't stand them or any other young trainees being eliminated 😭
haha :v tôi fan winner
Me 🙌
ME
After watching this, I realized YG should make gap in years in debut new group. For example, WINNER is crazy famous after debut but then YG put all the focused on IKON, then WINNER hiatus in 2015 and then BLACKPINK debut in 2016 then IKON become silent and have to go to JAPAN, all the focused go to BLACKPINK. its such a shamed bcoz WINKON is incredibly talented and famous back then, but YG strategies in debut group make their road become rough. Look back at BIGBANG and 2NE1 they have gap in each other so they can grow by that times
Same to TREASURE, I hope YG make gap on them with the NYGG so that they can grow.
Just my two cents opinions.
Sadly ygngg will debut in 2021
Nope team B more popular than team A when still trainee, and Winner not crazy famous
@@amelnurjana9108 if you look back to WIN, team A is more famous because seungyoon and seunghoon already famous before signed with YG that's why TeaM A win because WIN final totally based on voting back then. IKON also getting more recognition and becaome famous because of WIN that's why fans pushed YG to debut them faster. This two group is really talented and famous after debut but YG didn't focused on them after that and wasted them.
@@alfianimukti8515 I hope the best for this group. I hope the new management of YG doing great with all this talendted group
@@nddn7488 if you look back, Team B have more views than team A
근데 진우형 6년간 남들 퇴출 될 때 끝까지 버틴것도 대단하다...
위너팬으로서 승유니 솔로 앞두고 괜히 정주행..ㅜ 첨엔 완전 위너팬으로만 봐서 팀B는 눈에 안들어왔는데 지금보니까 아이콘 위너 둘 다 이렇게 간절하니..ㅜㅜ
다른 회사랑 비교할 것도 없이 다음 세대인 트레저 서바이벌 프로그램만 봐도 실력차이가 확실하게 나는 느낌이랄까.. 딱 블랙핑크 데뷔할 때 까지 월말평가 영상만 봐도 YG연습생 실력이 엄청났음. 고난도 안무구성에도 자로 잰듯한 칼군무에 심지어 모든 무대를 본인들이 A 부터 Z까지 만들었다는 점에서 엄청난 클래스 차이가 났다고 봄. 당시에 김진우가 A,B팀 전체에서 가장 아쉬운 실력을 가지고 있었는데 지금 트레저 서바이벌 했던 친구들이랑 비교해보면 솔직히 중상위권 실력은 가지고 있다고 보이고, 시청자들도 이미 빅뱅이나 위너 아이콘을 통해서 봐 온 와이지의 실력이 있기에 더 아쉬워했으리라 생각이 드네요
트레저는 실력보다도, 기존 그룹들이 가진 자체적으로 만들어가는 느낌이 너무 약함. 님이 말했듯이 블핑까진 안무도 mr도 연습생이 직접 만들고, 그걸 트레이너가 검사하고 보강하는 느낌이었는데, 트레저는 그냥 트레이너가 시키는 대로 하는 느낌.
17년도까진 기존 방식대로 했던거 같은데, 18년도에 갑자기 그 방식이 바뀜. 달라진거라곤 데뷔조에서 주축 멤버였던 밀레니엄이 프로듀서로 전향하면서 빠진건데, 이 멤버가 작사, 작곡, 편곡, 안무 다 했어서, 그리 된거 같음
비팀에서 비아이 빠진 느낌이랄까...
위너 팬으로 과거로 돌아와 이 영상을 다시 또 보니.. 멤버들 이쁘고 간절한 마음 하나하나가 너무 느껴져서 또 다시 감동이 밀려옴. 정말 잘될 수 밖에 없는 위너들... 처음부터 마음들이 어쩜 이렇게 이쁘고 서로를 위하는지.ㅠㅠ 위너가 돼줘서 다시 봐도 너무 고마워.
imagine if ikon had become winner and winner had become ikon (with chanwoo) whaaaat
i can't imagine my baby Chanwoo living with 4-7 years older hyung...I can't imagine who bullied who...😂😂
+Leila Younes read the sentence "imagine if...."
How did chanwoo got into ikon?
+Azee M he was on a show mix & match and got put into ikon
hongseok joining winner wouldn't be that bad.
요즘 위너나 아이콘만한 아이돌이 안나오는 이유가 여기있는듯....간절함의 정도부터가 다르다
YG should bring B.I back into IKON. He worked really hard.
Or iKON leaves all together & debuts under a new label as OT7
iKONIC OT7 FOREVER i hope so too. I miss him
Why is there no eng sub?? How did you guys watch??
Ekhen Bezo uhmm there is. Just turn on cc
Majesty haze I did that but it’s not working. But Its good from episode 2 so I’m watching from 2. Thanks!!
BI worried about his members then 😢. Now he is the best song writer of the year and iKON got song of the year in MMA
soft hours : opened 😭😭💖
So sad...B.I said the only way he knew to protect his members was to write and produce good music so they can be successful.....and that's what he's been doing......our songwriter of the year! Best leader!!
But sadly now.... :( i just can't handle...
@@yasminalyaa I feel u💔
I hope he will be back
I'm the only one cry when jinwoo meet he's father after a long time?
he work so hard.
Plot twist both team will debut this year ;)
sorry :'(
huh? I was going to stop watching bc I found out team A was scheduled this year.
hoyeonee I also watched the entire show knowing the winner, but it's still really worth watching. Excellent and very moving show!
Plot twist: WINNER debuts with 11 members !
no with five
이렇게 힘들게 데뷔시켜 놓고 공백기를 그렇게 길게 했냐..
심지어 데뷔도 바로 안시켰....
이유라도 알고싶다 ㅅㅂ생각해보니까 위너 지금도 공백기임
@@김탁구-c9w 지금은 군백기져..ㅠ
@@예나-p3g 누구 군대갔어요??제송,,제가 코닉이라..
@@김탁구-c9w 지금 김진우 이승훈 군대갔어요!!
확실히 얘네들은 진화 수준으로 발전한 게 느껴짐
이 때 월말평가 노래와 mr하고 따로 노는 게 보이는데 데뷔하고 낸 노래 들으면 ㄹㅇ 자웅동체
탈YG해라
This was 2013 and B.I is carrying a lot of thoughts in his mind already. But surprisingly those thoughts are not only for him but for all his members. He sure is a great leader. 💕
at 17 i was stil playing video games and refusing to help around the house..while B.I. here has everything on his hands.... i felt so useless back when i was watching it back in 2013
WE STAN 😩❤️
😭❤️
전 A팀 현 위너 전 B팀 현 아이콘으로 데뷔한, 인기를 누리고있는 두 팀 다 정말 이쁘다 노력해줘서 고마워요 다들 ㅠㅠ 그냥 다 고마울따름......
진우야ㅠㅠ데뷔해줘서 고마워ㅠㅠㅠㅠ
WIN 첫 방송부터 본방사수했는데 송민호한테 반해서 지금까지 송민호 팬임. 문 열고 들어오는데 내 눈엔 송민호가 가장 눈에 들어오고 후광이 났지. 역시 내 안목은 틀리지 않았다
Im so glad team A is winner and team B is iKON 💕
I THINK YG PLANNED ALL OF THIS SINCE BOTH GROUPS ARE THE BEST
NOW HE GOT
WINNER, IKON AND WORLD STAR BLACKPINK
HE JUST NEED 2NE1 BACK , GO BACK TO YG FAMILY NOT YG ENTERTAIMENT AND MAKE YG FAMILY CONCERT WITH ALL YG ARTIST
Once an fan always a fan i agree
Totally agree with that
Same
@@eiufyuf6 and bigbang
I was crying really hard when B.I was talking to the camera. Its just too much burden for a young boy like him to follow their dreams. God! They are one of the best now but why am i still crying 😭😭😭 I am always here fighting with you ikon 😭😭😭😭❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
I FIND IT CUTE SINCE I ALREADY KNOW THEIR ALL GOING TO DEBUT
💞
진짜 다들 뽀시래기였구나ㅜㅜ 승윤진우민호승훈 진짜 엄청 수고했구나ㅠ
엉엉 그러니까요..ㅠㅜㅠ 강김송이...ㅠㅜㅠ💙
양현석 프듀 심사갔으면 ㅈㄴ웃겼을듯ㅋㅋㅋ기절했을수도,, 이런 초고퀄 애들보다가..
근데 대형기획사라 엄격한건 있는듯
프듀X에 나와주긴 했어야 함ㅋㅋ 하두 답 없으니까 배윤정누님 중간투입 시키지ㅋㅋ 다보인다
ㄴㅅㅋㅅㅋㅅㅋㅅㅋㅋ뒷목잡고 쓰러졌을듯
그렇게 송민호는 위너가 되고 송가락이 됐다
아잌씨 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 진우때매 울고있었는데ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
ㅋㅋ
아이콘 킹덤 소식 보고 이거 다시 보러 오신분?? 진짜... 잘됐으면 좋겠다 아이콘 ㅠㅠㅠ
프로그램 끝나는 동시에 데뷔한다면서 1년 뒤에 데뷔시켜준거 진짜 하....
데뷔는 곡이 나와야 하니까 그렇게 걸릴 수 있다고 생각하는데... 컴백이... 1년 반이 걸린게 제일 빡침...
제가 고삼때 이걸 보고 버텼습니다 진짜 죽을거 같았는데 이거 보면서 힘 얻는것도 있었고 진짜 간절하고 엄청난 열정이 너무나 느껴져서 진짜 힘이 되었었다ㅜㅜ 다행히 지금은 원하는데 가서 잘 다니고 있어요😭😭 위너 아이콘 진짜 아낀다ㅜㅜㅜ
위너 너무 멋져,,,진우야 사랑해,,,
if there's something I learned watching this kind of reality show is to have at least respect for Kpop singers cause what they go through to become an idol is no joke.
idol life is a stable job in korea.....IF you succeed....so a lot of dreamers are going for it.... unlike in my country.. even if you are in the industry you still struggle.
@@chariza13 not really, it's only the top 3 companies groups that are somewhat steady unlike other smaller companies groups which will make no money.
I approve of this message
@@chariza13 its definitely not, you train so many years without being sure if you'll ever become an idol and when you do it's still hard because some groups never even make it big and end up disbanding after years of hard work, becoming an idol is a risk
PREACH! THOSE PEOPLE AT THE TWITTER RIGHT NOW I HOPE THEY COULD ALL LEARN RESPECT.
In my honest opinion, i think Team A did better in terms of their singing even though Seunghoon had a mistake at the beginning. And Team B did better in terms of dancing and teamwork. YG is seriously cut-throat. It's sad knowing that Big Bang, 2NE1 and the other YG Family had to endure this much hardship and bluntness from YG but it's comforting to know that they all ended up great performers.
보석함보다가 이거 보니 그냥 A팀 B팀 다 바로 데뷔해도 될듯..
한달에 한번은 정주행한다 윈이랑 믹매 진짜 코니들 너무 사랑한다 상 받은 거 넘 축하하고 이번 년도에도 잘되자요!
시간이 흘러 2018년 12월에 이걸 보고 있으니 마음이 뭉클하다 ㅠㅠㅠ 이런 고생을 하고 노력을 했으니 지금 성공한거야 위너 아이콘 둘 다 더더 대박나자 ㅠㅠ
나 진우보러여기까지옴 그냥 진우 한명 보러옴 데뷔해줘서 고맙다 장하다 김진우ㅜㅜ
위너 진짜 …위너팬인데 둘다 응원하게 된다 ㅠㅠ 너무 힘들었겠다 ㅠㅠ 둘다 잘돼서 다행이네..
i tried hard not to cry when Jinwoo cried.. i was tearing up.. then i saw his father, yes i behan to bawl my eyes out..
진짜 아이콘 너무 마음 아프다 얘들아 왜그랬어.. 이렇게 간절했으면서,, 서바이벌 힘들게 두번이나 했으면서
이것만봐도 와이지 출신 아이돌은 절때 실력없을수가 없음. 빅뱅이나 투애니원도 영상 시작에서 말하는것만봐도 와이지 연생엄청 빽센거보임. 그나저나 전셰계로 뻗어가는 그룹만든다면서 팬들 많이 빠져나가는 긴 공백을 왜이리 많이 줬냐;;;
그러니까요!!ㅠㅜㅠㅜㅜㅠㅜㅜㅠㅠㅜㅜ
갖잖은 신비주의컨셉
다른 서바이벌 프로그램보면 항상 윈이나 믹매 다시 보게 됨ㅋㅋㅋ 독기max의 연습생들
why am i watching this again during my exam period this is not healthy
+booboo Same here...
+booboo i feel you!
Yep, that's me right now
booboo Now , me xD
SAME
just realized that they have one of the best dorms compared to other companies
True, and the fact that this was during their predebut and they had to move to different, bigger & better dorms/apartment when they debuted
they should do this to the others
Yg treats his artists well.
Eva li they earned a lot more because of bigbangs hard work
if you're a trainee on an entertainment company, do they provide your dorms?
아오 ^^^ 윈 프로그램 끝나는 동시에 데뷔한다고 해놓고 1년 뒤에 데뷔시킨거 진짜 아오
Why does this hurts more now? Knowing how hard Winner members had gone through even before they debuted in YGE. All the struggles and hates that were thrown at them, still they managed to surpass it all. Boys you've gone so far now and I'm so proud of all you. Happy 6th WINNERversary 😭💙
이렇게 힘들게 위너 됐는데 활동도 적게 하고 태현이 탈퇴하고..
Why am I rewatching this? Even WINNER now is the winner, I feel sorry for them that they have to go through this process. In my opinion, This were the time that they dont know yet their group's music flavor. If you noticed, they are trying to fit in the known YG style music. I wonder how they will perform here if they already knew their music back then. I LOVE YOU WINNER. You deserve much love. Inseos will always be here for you.
winner4ourcircle you mean that group who always realese childish and trash songs
Kazu Soshi childish and trash? you’re tasteless
Kazu Soshi you mean ikon right?
Winner has their own unique style. Just like what CL said, "let em haters sit & stare 😛😆
@Arashi SAVAGE 🤣
2024에도 보는 휴먼?
✋✋✋✋
앙
휴먼은 아니지만 봄
정주행 중
나태해질때마다 보고 마음을 다시잡는다
Watching this again and thinking about how hard working Hanbin is. YG really never deserved him nor the other members. But Hanbin deserves a better company and opportunities. This is freaking killing me.
same sis same
YG did help him actually. YHS actually threatened the Han so hee (the whistleblower) and asked her to inform the police that BI didn't consume the drugs. But YHS got caught for threatening her and some gambling charges and hence he resigned. He didn't resign because of Burning sun scandal or Seungri. BI left because he thought he would bring more harm to YG and the group if he stayed and hence he left on his own will. TBH, he could have been in hiatus for a year or till the verdict came out that he was innocent. But we can't comprehend what he was thinking. With or without B.I, iKON is still THAT group for me. I am rooting for them in Kingdom and hope they gain back their glory once again.
@@beeepositive5 i know the background of what happened as i followed everything thru and i am a ID myself. But I also know how YG was against IKON and everything that they went thru. They immediately deleted hanbin over everything while still having Seungri, which was what that threw me off and let me write this
@@beeepositive5 well i think he used it to save himself and not bi. If you have read the dispatch msgs. It's pretty clear that he didn't take it. But he was planning on. But he had witnessed her taking it with some others. Considering the fact that bi doesn't have much friends outside yg. It's pretty obvious.
Honestly, WIN's format is still better than YG treasure box. They battled as a team and not as an individual, which was a good opportunity to strengthen their teamwork more.
agreee
Yeeee
I came right back after 4 epic of treasure box. WIN’ program was def much more better. It has teams n less ppl competing,which allows us to understand n know more about the individual better. WIN has that touching factor. I can feel for the member before I even know them as WINNER & iKON
But they had mix and match next year.
30:45 바비가 그래도 같이 연습한 형들이니까 관계 망가지는거 싫다고 선긋는거 멋지다..아무리 그래도 대결이면 상대가 싫어지기 마련인데ㅠㅠㅠㅠ개멋있네
진짜 멋짐...그리고 Climax도 바비 idea
Good lord.
This is so much drama, it would put all the X Factors to shame.
+Pujita Bandaru lol.
x factor is shit anyway
Pujita Bandaru I SWEAR
보석함ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ속이 드글ㄷ글 끊어서 윈다시본다;;
보물함인지 보고왔는데 진짜 간절함부터 차이가 이렇게 나는구나
ㅇㅈ
같은 생각하는 사람이 일케 많음ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ YG는 그냥 갈수록 너프되는 듯
랩이젤너프돼지않앗낭? 외모는버프되긴함
너프 버프가 뭐데
@유지환 먼개소리임
damn.... this show is more intensed than hunger games...
Hahahaha
ahahhahaha hilarious 😂😂
That's because YG is scarier than president Snow
true :)
+Janice Lopez 👍👍👍 and make you question your goal and plan about life
I'M SO ANNOYED AT YG FOR MAKING THESE KIDS WHO ARE LIKE FAMILY FIGHT WITH EACH OTHER AND THEN ENDED UP DEBUTING BOTH ANYWAY WTF
This made me laugh because I sense your intense frustration haha :D
I feel the same but I think all of them came out stronger because of it :)
***** i agree that they may've come out stronger but imagine the inner turmoil and the possible mental problems the participants would've had to go through not to mention the fact that team b are all basically teenagers
I THINK YG WANTED THEM TO BE STRONG SO HE DID TBIS BUT LOOK HE BUILTED WINNER AND IKON AT THE SAME TIME
@@eiufyuf6 wait so who won WIN? Winner? So winner debuted in 2013 and ikon in 2015? Am i right or wrong? Thanks
@@reshmaragesh7149 YES. IKON 2015 (TEAM B)
WINNER 2013 (TEAM A)
이렇게 난리를 치면서 데뷔했는데 지금 YG 수장이 블랙핑크인것도 아이러니 함.... 사람일 모른다는게 이런건듯 윈 끝나고 연장선으로 화제성 정점일 때 믹스앤매치 까지 하고 그동안 뭐 여자 연습생은 보여줄 기미도 없더니..
여자연생은 아예 피처링으로 먼저 내보냈죠
@@민민-v2u 이름도 공개 안된채로 피처링 내보내는거랑 아예 차기 확정으로 프로그램을 만들어서 미디어 노출 시키는거랑 같나요ㅋㅋ
Jinwoo is seriously a kind hearted boy. He is a survivor who went through all those elimination rounds. His team members were cut off one by one but he survived through here. He has talents and works very hard. Jinwoo really deserves to be where he is right now.
강김송이보러왔어♡♡♡공백기때 씁쓸하게 보던거랑 느낌이 완전틀리고 오랜만에보니 왜이케 아기들이지 ㅋ
I miss WINNER so much so I'm rewatching this. It just makes me appreciate WINNER more
I'm obsessed with their song "different" and I bet not only my brother's sick and tired of me singing it with my awful voice 😂😂😂
+Bored Af When are they going to have a comeback. They only have 2 music videos and it was in 2014.
Em Rachel 11 Jan 2016. Soon :)
OMG FINALLY!!
2024년도에도 본다..
그냥 갑자기 한빈이가 보고 싶어져서 정주행 시작...
세계에서 커다란 인기 얻고 싶다고 했는데 그래서 공백기 만들었어?
아니 이수만 여기 왴ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
강김송이. 애깅이들이네 진짜. 형라 빨리 돌아와ㅠㅠ 인서가 기둘리고 있어 사랑해💙
이 프로그램 나왔을 때가 벌써 10년 전이네요 그때 중학생이었는데 이 프로그램을 너무 좋아했어서 아직도 가끔 생각날 때 보러와요ㅎㅎ 지금 생각해보니 어차피 두 팀 다 데뷔시킬 거였으면서 양싸가 엄청 고생 시켰네.... 맘이 아프면서도 아직도 이걸 볼 때마다 얼마나 열심히 했는지가 느껴져서 많이 배우게 돼요 두 팀 다 너무 좋아했던 그룹이라 앞으로도 잘 됐으면 좋겠다 특히 아이콘은 우여곡절이 많았어서 그런지 맘속에 아픈 손가락처럼 남아있음ㅠㅠ 항상 응원해요
B.I is everything...he is good in rapping,dancing,and composer...he can do anything what he want...so proud of him..
Hanbin saranghae!!:)
Watching this now bcoz of iKON. Started stanning them after I listened to Love Scenario and got curious how the group started.
Abegail Canamo sameeeee😂
I'm a Blink and I'm okay Woah! A fellow blink :)
We made a good move, dear. Since after spazzing them this last four says, I can finally declare myself a Blinkonic 😊😊😊
This is me😂😂😂
@@pinkonationsblinkonic_kn13 I also wanted to know who they are and where they started since I love Killing Me and recently started to stan them (when I say recently I litrally mean yesterday...It was love at first sight)
find the eXit Welcome to the family!! Its been three months when I first know about them and now, I'm a proud iKONIC and so excited for their concert in our country this november (bcoz Im coming). You should watch Mix & Match after this one. Enjoy watching 😊
이땐 누구 팬도 아니여서 그냥 재밌게 봤는데 위너팬이 되고나서 다시 보니까 눈물남 😢 위너, 아이콘 꽃길만 걷자💙❤️
전세계적으로 인기 인기 얻는 그룹을 만들고 싶다더니 둘 다 데뷔도 예정보다 늦게하고
데뷔하고 인기 얻으면 바로 공백기+해외로 돌리고
다시 뜰려하면 회사 내부 문제 터지고...
윈 때 부터 아이콘 킹덤 까지 다 챙겨본 위너,아이콘 팬인데 이건 진짜 너무한 거 아니냐ㅠㅠ
속상해 ... 이너서클🔵 아이코닉🔴 사랑입니다
YG 일 좀 하자!!!!
양현석이 딴건 몰라도 애들 잠재력, 육성은 정말 잘 보고 잘 시켰음.. 지금 트래저 보면 옛날에 막 빅뱅이나 위너 아이콘 그런 느낌이 없음
ㅇㅈ.. yg보석함인가 트레저 멤버 뽑는 프로 보면서 이제 감 잃었구나 이런 생각 듦..
@@Harim_k 딱 블핑까지인거 같음
저도 동의합니다.
와이지스런 힙합을 좋아하기에 각 그룹의 포인트멤버들을 좋아했는데..
제가 나이가 든 것인지..
트래져는 인원도 많고 잘 모르겠더라구요..
그래도 십오야 출장에서 본 리더 둘..
현석인가하는 멤버는 와이지스럽긴한듯~
@@jung1125-s 진짜 현석이 말곤 와지 느낌은 안느껴짐
Came here to see how Dispatch decided to end this hardworking kid's future with things he might have done in the past while his mind was in a dark place.
When someone says they want to do LSD to become a genius, we should help and give him support and not ruin his whole career
Hanbin you worked hard!
Because knets suck. I ain't lying. There's no perfection. They should learn to accept that. Hanbin is lost, burdened at such a young age. Poor kid.
K-entertainment industry is dark and heavily politicized. BI was the victim of something well beyond him with this "scandal" being released after someone sat on it for years to bring down the one idol company that won't be a mouthpiece/be censored by the new government administration.
He's back 🙋🏻♀️❤️
@@fxli1319 where??? You mean his solo?
@@이윤서-i8z1q Love streaming album it's for donation,he's not officially comeback yet but he's active these days on twitter
From 2018, I still find B.I's concern for the members the most touching part of their journey. Torturing myself once again
지드래곤처럼 될 수 있을 거라고 생각해서 영입을 고려했던 한빈이의 멱살을 잡고 쥐고 흔들어서 결국엔 팀 탈퇴까지 가고.. 난 이때의 한빈이를 절대 잃을 수 없다 내가 보기엔 B팀이 더 간절했고 여기에서 데뷔했다면 또 다른 결과가 나오지 않았을까 하는...
강승윤한테 꽂혀서 처음 정주행하는데 노래 실력 미쳤냐고 당장 데뷔해야했음 양현석이 제정신이면 저걸 묻혀둘수가 없었다 ㅅㅂ
Who come here on july 2019 because miss BI so much and ikon? 😢😢
Who else is back because of the news that ikon is joining the program "kingdom"... i cant believe that they have to go through another survival show again after they had made it until this far...
지금의 위너랑 아이콘이구나.
둘 다 음원강자로 잘 활동하고 있네요
When jinwoo met his father I cried my eyes out oh my jinwoo don't cry 😭💔
Me too😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
ever since i watched jinwoo and his determination and passion he has a spot in my heart till this day . it is been 3 or 4 years . lets rise jinwooya you deserve everything in this world and i am always give it to you . he may be not excellent but he has courage i always lost . he said given up is worse than failing .
you know you're winner and ikon deprived when you start to watch win again
Ikon! Going crazy waiting!!!
Hahaha..that's true tho!
Aaliyah I thought i was the only one
The very reason why I am here again.. Aigoo..
Im so iKON deprived
This is so me
위너 I LOVE U에 빠져서 찾아 왔습니다!