Dokken Retrospective - More Than Just A Hair Band
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2:39 Breaking the Chains
3:46 Tooth And Nail
5:15 Under Lock And Key
6:14 Back For The Attack
8:02 Dysfunctional
9:30 Shadowlife
10:28 Erase The Slate
11:19 Long Way Home
12:17 Hell To Pay
13:11 Lightning Strikes Again
14:03 Broken Bones - เพลง
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Kiss of Death was IMHO one of the best 80's Metal Songs of that time.
great song, fantastic tone, but I always felt it never quite translated live as George changes it up too much
@@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle I hear you. And the loss of the rhythm guitar takes away some of the power when he plays live.
Great song, borderline thrash
Dokken and RATT are the two most overlooked and under appreciated bands of the 80s. I'd take them over GNR or Bon Jovi any day.
Absolutely Brother!!!
I totally agree!
I agree with the first half. Odd to lump Bon Jovi with Guns since Guns was the heaviest of the genre and Bon Jovi was the poppiest
"Up From The Ashes" is a very underrated album in the Dokken collection.
damn right 😁👍
I agree it was a great album but it's not a Dokken album. It's a don dokken solo album.
@@Professional-fh1ow Don Dokken said in an interview that most if not all of "Up From The Ashes" would have been Dokken's next album.
@@48northphotography5 That's interesting because Don & Billy White (phenom guitarist) wrote most of the songs. None of the songs reminded me of a Dokken tune except Mirror Mirror with its two finger plucking like Its Not Love. The only song that had any Dokken member contribution was Stay w/ Mick Brown. Maybe he said it in spite of Lynch. I was a student of this album. I played in a band at the time and had learned many of the songs because I liked the album so much.
That's Don Dokken..
Felony off of breaking the chains definitely will grow on you! Good job man I'm one the biggest fans of dokken since I was 12 or 13 I'm 31 and still listen to them every day still!
Felony kicks ass!
fantastic song.......so catchy
"Hair Metal" is still alive just underground
Cool video been listening to dokken since breaking the chains iam 61 and still listening to them ..🤘🎶😈
I'm a old school Metal Head started listening to Hard Rock and Metal back in the Mid 70s and never looked back Dokken is one of my favorite Metal band and even had the opportunity to meet Don Dokken and Mick Brown and talked to them for about an hour great guys yes Metal is the best Musical genre with so many metal genres there is something for everybody my favorite Metal genres are Power Metal Symphonic Metal and Prog Metal I enjoy a lot band from the Nordic Countries and Italy 🇮🇹 great job on the Dokken video from a old Metal Head to young Metal Head keep up the great work
We open our Hair metal band show with a 45 minute dokken tribute we call Mister Scary. After learning and playing all their best shit makes me appreciate them even more. Great songwriters.
Ours does a Rob Halford tribute
Pilson and Lynch are underappreciated, even Don too.
My picks of bands that I still listen too from this class of rock is Dokken, Skid Row and Ratt. My favorite song from Dokken next to Braking the Chains, and Sleepless Night.
Dokken is one of the best
Dream warriors was written for and used in one of the "nightmare on elm street" sequel movies. I assume you're too young to know this if you're speculating it's about sleep paralysis.
part 3 😃👍
Dream warriors in my opinion is the best elm street movie
Dokken was very big in Japan and Germany. I'd say that international fame along with everyone in US metal circles knowing them and Mr. Scary's legendary guitar god status makes them the bedrock of the 80's movement.
As an original Dokken fan (I'm 56), it's great to hear from younger people how Dokken was underappreciated. Even now my GF (we dated in high school and got back together after 32 years) and her 15 year old daughter jam while "Rockin with Dokken,"
I was a uge Dokken fan in the 80's, crushed when they broke up, but loved Dysfunctional
@@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracleme too, even tho im 13. I wish i couldve been there in those awesome times. Most underrated band imo #LETSBRINGBACKTHE80s
@FWDAG I am only a 14 year old girl but love the 80s hair bands too and I wish I grew up in the 80s too 😭🤟🤘🎸👍❤️🔥❤️👌
Dokken at their core are not a “Glam/Hair Metal” band. They really only had a glam image for one tour and album and that was for “Under Lock and Key” 1985-1986
They were a melodic hard rock/metal band that had substance and sincerity with their all their songs, not just the typical sex, drugs and rock and roll. I think the band’s best material lyrically and thematically came with Back for the Attack and Up From the Ashes (The latter which was originally scheduled to be a Dokken album, but legal issues prevented that from happening). Had that album been released as a Dokken album it probably would’ve gone double platinum.
Having said that, the band has sold over 10 million albums world wide, received a Grammy nomination, had a movie tie in and had their share of top 20 and 40 success.
They could’ve been bigger, but I think it was because of their reticence to do the typical Glam stuff like Poison and Motley Crüe that probably put them in the middle ground. Ultimately Dokken’s music holds up better than a majority of the bands of that period because of that Difference.
I must agree 💯
I agree 100 percent
Night by Night off of Back for the Attack is awesome
Dream Warriors was a song written for the soundtrack A Nightmare on Elm Street 3, the Dream Warriors.
George mentioned he was so high on coke at the video shoot, he couldnt break through the wall initially, they had to cut the boards enough so he could break through!he said they all did coke off Freddie Kruegers blades from the glove!
Nice job again dude! Really enjoy your work! I still put heaven sent on my fricken system and max it out. So solid.
Dokken is not "glam" my man, but a band like Poison is "glam", as there is a huge difference in the style, musicianship and song writing!! Dokken is just a Awesome heavy, hard rock band who was there rocking before any of the silly labels were thought up. If Dokken is "glam", they you would also have to label Van Halen as glam, and they're far from it!! Thank goodness I was there when all these great bands and this great music came out, and saw it all live!!
Pretty spot on for the most part however I think you missed the mark on Erases the Slate. That album was a masterpiece and probably their best since Back for the Attack.
Dokken is absolutely a household name , atleast for musicians and music fans , George lynch is one of the most revered rock/metal guitarists of all time ! Great band since day 1
Yep, Tooth and Nail is my favourite Metal album of the '80s. Thanks for the post!
Iron Maiden, Judas Priest , Def Leppard, Tesla and Scorpions are also good options for a restrospective video
And Queensrÿche
They are a band that still stand
Rockin with Dokken
Thanks for helping get Intill Dokken, really really good band.
I got to see DOKKEN open for TRIUMPH on the Thunder 7 tour circa 1986, awesome show. Then I got to meet Don later in the late1990's after a show. He was very gracious and treated me like an old friend. I still love Rockin' with DOKKEN either in my JEEP with the top down or my Mustang at highway speeds.
1:52 Dokken was quite popular in the second half of the 80s after Tooth and Nail, at least in the USA for sure. They were a platinum selling band in those years, although they in fact didn't sell as much as Ratt or Mötley for example.
The really annoying thing is that every album sold more than the last. When the band broke up they were still building up momentum for what would have been their big break...
nice work!
It's not love and lightning strikes were my favorite off under lock & key. They forgot to mention the success of Lynch Mob. A few years ago Lynch reunited with oni Logan to record a decent record including a good jam called something like main offender.
I love Glam Metal. Shits on Grunge, Nu Metal, and whatever "Alternative" is. There aren't very many Genre's that aren't top heavy.
great video I've always been a Dokken fan love many songs from them . I agree with you they should have had more success. Very underrated band . I have them has one of my favorite band all time. Another underrated band is Warrant but that's another video.
Awesome Band!! One of the best, with a perfect balance/mix of heavy, hard rock power chords and melodic, classy, talent laden chops all blended together to make some of the best music ever!! Every member is top class in their skills! Yes I agree that Shadowlife was a shitty album (but that was due to internal sabotage by all involved...couldn't they all just get along...LOL!). I'd say since the classic 80's fare, Erase the Slate and Lightning Strikes Again, are easily the best albums they've had... fave 5 songs... Burning Like A Flame, Kiss Of Death, Back For The Attack, Just Got Lucky & Unchain The Night but there are so many more... Just get into it if you love to Rock!!!
the best "Dokken" album after the 1988 breakup is Lynch Mob's Wicked Sensation
Definitely!
Up From the Ashes > Wicked Sensation
I gotta mention their 1988 live album "Beast from the East" is incredible, highly recommended.
Why am I always notified you had a upload 3 days later
Thanks for the video. Dokken are the band that got me into heavy music. Puppet On A String is my favorite song!
lol..I totally agree with you about "Shadow Life." I bought the CD when it came out with high hopes of seeing glimpses of the Dokken I knew and loved since "Breaking the Chains" and after scrolling through all the songs and listenting to it for about 20 minutes, I literally rolled down my car window and chucked that steaming piece of dog sh*t straight out the window. What a total dissapointment I had that day and was super pissed that they actually recorded that garbage..lol.
Wasp is another band worth getting a retrospective eternal idol is fucken awesome
Crimson Idol
@@mikepratt6481 that's right fuck I was thinking of the I accidentally wrote the name of the black sabbath album
George Lynch, Randy Rhoads, Uli Jon Roth and Eddy van Halen are the Big Four in guitar-playing these days.
They created a completely new approach, a new way to let the guitar sounding.
Dokken`s "Into the fire" is one of the Dokken songs that can compete to the great Van Halen stuff. What to say about Randy? Listen to the first two Ozzy albums! Nothing that came later from Ozzy is on that level. "Sails of Charon" by the Scorpions (better: by Uli Jon Roth) is a Malmsteen song before Malmsteen hit the limelight.
Dokken/Lynch? One of the most underrated musical talents in Rock-History. Ozzy and van Halen also had their "Hair Metal" time. It was just an outfit thing, no musical caregory for these bands.
Michael Schenker?
@@martyndunn6337 If you like to Addis him.
A personal influence for me.
It really does feel like we Dokken fans are the red headed step bastards of metal fandom. Your album synopsis was on point until Erase The Slate, monster comeback effort imo. Lighting Strikes Again would have been a perfect original 4 reunion album. Anyway great video my man, keep RKN w/ DKN !
I like that 8bit Heaven & Hell
Shadowlife was George's attempt to permanently wreck Dokken's brand. However, there are some really good tracks within its contents, and is far better than what George has released on his own in the past decade
you should have a look at Free Spirit. they only have like 500 monthly streams on Spotify but they sound so much like 80s Hair Metal ... but maeby more like 90s Glam/Hair metal ... i dont know if you like This but Pale sister of Light or Dew of the Rose are awesome Songs from them
GNR and Def Leppard aren’t glam metal. DL were NWBHM and GNR are so different than the other Glam and Hair bands, unfortunately in the 80s if you played heavy rock your label glammed you up. When I think early glam I think Quiet Riot, Ratt, and Motley Crue. I realize by the Hysteria album Def Leppard looked and sounded a little like a glam band but I just can’t get behind GNR DL being glam, Cinderella isn’t glam either but most casual fans just assume that they are and it’s a shame because they have some cool music. I’ve never gotten into Dokken besides the big MTV videos It’s Not Love is probably my favorite Dokken song. I’m going to have to check out some more Dokken, you might just be on to something, GL is definitely an incredible guitarist and Don a great songwriter, I think the reason I’ve never gotten into them is because I just don’t care for the mix/mastering/production of their albums, I know what they were going for but I don’t know if it was a money problem or personnel but Dokken always sounded like their newest albums were two or three years behind the bands production wise. You can have the best songs ever, but if the mix sucks it’ll never be a big hit. That’s just what I can come to as to why I never got into them, I started playing guitar in the 90s and remember seeing George Lynch in the magazines and thinking the guy looks cool and has some sweet ESP guitars and then being underwhelmed with the music.
Def Leppard became glam metal once Pete Willis was gone - now they're glam rock
@@billymuellerTikTok they did nick Phil from girl, but I still don’t consider them glam but they definitely become more pop on Pyromania and Hysteria, I love both of those albums, but after Steve Clark died I haven’t cared for any of their new material. I’m weird though the first Skid Row was glam and then Slave to the Grind sounds kinda like the missing link between glam and grunge. From the footage I’ve seen the most glam band on the tour this summer sounded the best I was way more impressed with the Poison footage than I ever thought I’d be.
FYI, DOKKEN was a household name in my house growing up.
When I saw "Into the Fire" video for the first time, they were my band!
At least you considered them "Glam" instead of Hair metal. I HATE that term. Thank you 🤘
Love me some old school Dokken 🤘🏽🤘🏽
absolutely an A league band more talented and skilled than a lot of their counterparts who had greater success like B leaguers Motley Crue who way outkicked their coverage.
Dream Warriors was written for a soundtrack. Nightmare on Elm Street series.
I’m
Definitely
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Dokken
Fun fact: Dokken's live album Beast from the East is not only one of the best live albums in the genre, but also received two of the greatest honours an album can get: not only did it get a 1-star review from Rolling Stone, which famously hated metal more the better it was, but Chris Cornell also tried to gaslight them out of a Grammy nomination by referring to how Jetro Tull got a Grammy for best heavy metal act, and implied that Dokken's inclusion meant that the nominators still didn't understand what heavy metal was. This is pretty rich, not only coming from Cornell, but talking about a band that had cut their teeth playing with Dio and had Metallica open for them on their last tour before their original breakup.
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I couldn’t agree!!! with you more Dokken the most underrated band!! There 80’s total song catalog is is top 2-3
Dokken kick ass and one day they will be in the rock n roll hall of Fame. 😀👍🤘🎸
I wish but scorpions not even in yet
I love Dokken, but that is never gonna happen.
Out of all of the hair metal bands that came out of the 1980's, Dokken is certainly one of them.
they are A leaguers strung together quite a run of awesome albums. all very different
Good band ,underrated for sure .
Back For The Attack was their heaviest album not their most glam!
Yeah, I'm just happy I got to see them live twice (Dysfunctional Tour and also Erase the Slate era). Don still had his voice back then, great shows. But I was only there for hearing the old songs, had no interest in anything after Back for the Attack....as I recall only
Would you make a retrospective on skid row the heaviest glam band
That new album is titled Heaven comes down and is due by 9/15/23 silver lining records.
Hey, Dons record “up from the ashes” has one kick ass song - Guve it Up
And as for the Crue Generation Swine - Beauty is a damn good track
They are one of my favorite bands also dream warriors and into the fire are my favorite songs but the only way of explaining the band is there just straight up badass
Dokken was great and musically stands the test of time. I'm 52 and can say that I loved them back in the day. The problem with them was Don Dokken had zero charisma as a frontman which was so crucial to the success of a band in that Era. The songs were there but Don was not as pretty and charismatic frontman as was needed during that era. The antithesis of Dokken is Ratt. Stephen Pearcy sucked as a singer but just oozes that special something that propelled that band higher than his musical talent.
Everything Dokken did was the Best!
Erase the Slate had some killer guitar work. Off Shadowlife “Hard to Forget” and “Bitter Regret” are both pretty good slower Dokken songs. I could never get into Dysfuntional at all.
You need to do heavens edge my dad was on tour with them and anthrax with his band
And no it’s not a thrash metal band
They are a great band, one of my favorites. I don't agree with some of your negative comments but it's all good, freedom to have your own opinions. I will say this. I had a conversation with Don on his board, and the record company suppressed Dokken to be more grunge, that's a fact, killing the songs that rocked. Don Dokken's CD is timeless, that and Lynch Mob charted well, showing that there is still a market for hard rock. The original line-up had the best song writers. Now with John, eh, John needs to work on it, he can't write at the same level as the original line up.
I had Tooth and Nail on cassette
I hated Dysfunctional because I bought the Japanese version of the album that came out the previous year and liked the track listing and the mix much better
I put Ratt a little above Dokken for my Hair Metal taste. Good stuff 👍
Dude, what about my fav Dokken album, “One Live Night?”
The irony is grunge/alternative died a quicker, harder death than glam....& was around for half the time, only 3-4 years tops.
You should do a black sabbath retrospective
Dokken is great and vastly under-rated.
Under appreciated.
1:50 ... i believe cause dokken is lots of heart break lyrics ... sad break up stuff ... not a pardy band like the crue or van halen ...
Lightning Strikes Again is a solid album…not the original lineup but really good
Yeah, I'm just happy I got to see them live twice (Dysfunctional Tour and also Erase the Slate era). Don still had his voice back then, great shows. But I was only there for hearing the old songs, had no interest in anything after Back for the Attack....as I recall only a handful of "new" songs were played at those shows.
Almost like letting George lynch go is a bad idea for anyone lol
Im 30 and work at home Depot overnight and lately I've been listening to the lock and key and I sing it every song every lol night and people look at me weird as fuck lol
Ok GNILLEP 🤣
Odd how none of the "hair band" singers od'd or committed suicide after their flavor of the month club membership expired unlike several "cringe band" singers.
Gotta follow suit when all you sing about is depression and suicide & how life sucks... pathetic really...
They weren't promoted well ?? Their music stands still!! Another underrated ROCK BAND??? HAIR ASIDE THEY NEW WHAT THEY WERE DOING!!!!
My friend's dad is married to Dokken's ex-girlfriend.
Do a video on Canada's greatest hard rock band....Helix.
Dokken's troubles came not from infighting between Don Dokken and George Lynch, but because Don always considered the other guys as hired hands and only gave them a small percentage of the rewards they earned. They all had finally had enough and told Don to kiss their a$$e$ and went on to other projects, most notably Lynch Mob. I'm glad younger people are finding Dokken and getting into their older stuff. They were a great guitar based hard rock/metal band and they have many great hits, unlike many of their peers with only a few hits over many albums. Dokken and RATT were kings of the hill for a while in the mid to late 80s. Rock on!!
Oh just must say being a 90s teenager i am a fan of grung as well but if truth be told grung really only had 4 good bands 90s alternative metal is some of my favorite music clutch kyuss white zombie ministry gwar machine head helmet biohazard prong then the rise of nu metal and just to big to list but 90s metal was killer
The only reason why Dokken wasn’t bigger is because Don wasn’t as cute and didn’t have the stage presence like some of the lesser talented bands from the same time, he was boring then, and even more boring now! But he wrote some great songs, and Dokken remains one of my top 5 best 80s bands of all time
They were on there way with back for the attack they were getting huge then the split that did it egos
Stryper the best of the 80s bands fantastic singer guitars and really good drummer
If wasn't for the fight with gorge and don they would of been glam royalty i loved dokken so close to exploding but as much as i love lynch for guitar but his ego destroyed there legacy they really should be talked about like ac/ dc are gnr they were just as good but heavier with one of the greatest singer's of the 80s and one of the top 3 guitarist from the 70s its not widely known but gorge lynch randy roads and Eddie were all in the same scene playing small shows and competing for the guitar legend crown we all know who won that i personally favor randy out of all of them but Eddie is fucking Eddie the king and gorge takes a very very respectful 3rd i said very 2 times because just to be in the same league as the other 2 is legendary and he was
To bad Goethe couldn't get along with Don, while he has great chops he never had the song writing chops, of other guitarist that he may have been technically better then.
I'm a massive Dokken fan and I always will be. I don't like calling Dokken a hair band. They are a just prettier than your average metal band. They had one of the greatest guitar players ever with Mr. Scary himself George Lynch. The original 4 albums are the best with Dysfunctional and Hell to Pay being the best of the rest. Every album has at least one good song on it and most have more than half (Damn Shadow Life ruined that stat with only one decent song). They rock their ass off every time I've seen them which started in the late 80's (I'm 52). IMO Dokken never made it as a massive band like Motley Crue, Ratt, or Poison was because in Jeff Pilson's own words their videos were steaming pile of SH!!!T. They had crappy videos minus It's not Love. Great songs need great videos and that just didn't happen with Dokken. I still love them and crank it up every time I play them or hear them on Hair Nation.
Back for the Attack is a killer album, but definitely of the time. should never be compared to Hysteria
You are smoking Crack if you think Erase the Slate isn't super dope. Lol. Reb Beach positively fucking murders it on that album and the songs are top notch.
Totally agree. 3rd best Dokken record behind Lock and Key and Tooth and Nail.
If like this album. Could've been better if Don's voice was still like before.
Have to really quick referring to these bands as hair bands... nobody called them hair bands in the '80s.. it was all considered different levels of metal.. when you referred to them as hair bands it makes it seem as if they are inferior.. it's not inferior it's just a different decade it's Hard Rock.. there really only a few mainstream true and true bands that were glam metal or hair metal.. in both image and sound poison is one of those bands but most bands that people in retrospect refer to as hair bands or Glam bands we're not really hair bands unless you want to call Van Halen a hair band and nobody calls Van Halen a hair band.. very hard rock band classic rock band... you and call Led Zeppelin a hair band would you? You wouldn't call Aerosmith a hair band would you?
"nobody calls Van Halen a hair band"
Most people who aren't fans who are terribly concerned about genres would probably do so these days.
Kind of meaningless for you to say that it's one of the best albums of the genre when you've repeatedly stated you hate the genre
Dokken was god in the 80's!
4:41 breakups with who? Other furries and anime waifus? LMAO
I despise the label Hair Metal..its a slanderous term to degrade the music...these bands could still play circles around any thing that came after it
Dokkan is great but there's no speed metal element in any of their songs. You need to really know what genres you're talking about before making statements like that. I'm not trying to sound like a dick or anything, I'm just stating facts.
Listen to tooth and nail(title track), the song is pure speed metal
C'mon you couldn't find a male raccoon? Yeah I'm out of here!!!
Of course more than a Hair Band.
Their music was anything but sellout.