What a great find! I am working on a 57 Chevy 3100 long bed that came right out of a junk yard in Washington. What makes this truck so cool is that it is an old prison truck with the original patina, and prison signs on the doors. We are going to be" rat rodding" it keeping the 235 in it. Thanks for the great video, as we are ready to fire it up. It turns by hand, and every thing looks pretty tight. Let's hope I get lucky like you.
THAT's WHERE the 6 that I yanked out of my '55, went....great shape I see,too!! I had a '55 that and old guy in California sold me for the right price. Drove it home on the 6,and parked it for a year. Came out with a straight axle,a de-stroked 265 @13.5 to one,and a borg t-10,ford 9",one piece font end body work glassed.
Thank you very much for your your videos. I will be waiting for the next one to see your next adventure. Long time viewer and really enjoy all your hard work.
Hey Jonathan, I'm an old gear head from s.w.Pa. I'm new to your channel and have been binge watching your videos for last couple days and really enjoy them. Looking forward to see what you have in future.
I always kept an old outboard motor tank with a squeeze bulb handy. Hook it to the carb, lets you take care of no fuel pump and tank for an engine test.
back in minnesota late 60s. Hart Ski company. 40 below zero. 200 cars in the parking lot. 2 cars would start. One of them was my friend Chucks 75 dollar 57 chevy 235 6 standard shift. he then helped jump start lots of the other cars. Chevrolet sold a lot of 6 cylinder vehicles in Minnesota because they would start when it really got cold out.
I have a 235 in my '58 Chevy. I didn't do as good as you. I payed $200.00 for mine, but it's a sweat runner. Yeah, they stopped making the babbitt ones in the early 50's. You probably have a solid lifter engine because it was hooked up to a manual transmission. Thanks, for posting very entertaining videos.
I've been going to auctions for over 60 year.s ( I'll be 65 in the spring) and have had dealings with my share of thieves and if I see someone taking other peoples property I have no qualms about turning them in to the auctioneer. More than one scum bag has been permanently banned from future auctions because of me. I have taken to marking my stuff with my name in spray paint when the scrap prices went up 6 or 7 years ago. Haven't had anything grow legs since!!
I didn't read all posts so if it'es been discussed, pardon.........There is a steel ball in the flywheel that can be seen through a hole in the flywheel housing on the carb side of the engine, line it with the pointer, that's #1 TDC. The way I used to time it was to loosen the advance on the distributer, calapse the advance, and turn the dist til it runs rough, and smooth when released, tighten everything down, you're good to go. FWIW, I worked on 49-57 Chevy 6 cyl back in the mid late 50s at a taxi service.
Thanks for the run down on doing things on the cheap, learn something new every day. I like the simple engine cart! wish I had thought of that in the past!
That engine came out here in Brazil on the Chevrolet 3100 which in the case was the displacement of it after 3800 that went out in the opal Chevrolet in 68 in 72 and Chevrolet launched the 4,100 or 250s, it came out to 292 only that truck but a great very reliable engine I have one. Chevrolet opala 4100 I am restoring, here also came that engine in the omega Chevrolet but with electronic injection and some improvements to increase the torque of it at low revs, They are wonderful engines
The workmanship that went into the old engines shows to the test of time , bet years into the future they won't be able to throw a modern day engine on a stand and make it run . This could be a great challenge for everyone to do , find a junk yard engine or any old engine make a stand and make it run . I just picked up a 200 six out of a 1966 Ford Mustang . You sparked ......my interest in and old engine running , I'm going find out if this one will run . Good cheap fun .
Might have a few parts if you need any. Even if it had knocked, I still had fun getting it running..
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Many new engine blocks & cranks outlive those old 1950s stock whose life was often less than 150,000 miles. More recent engines use better alloys & are machined to closer tolerances; however, their supporting "systems" are generally much more complex. P.S.: Points-mediated ignition was a PITA, and alternators trump generators....!
The last Chevy 235 to use babbit connecting rod bearings was the 1953 std. shift engine. The 1953 Powerglide engine had insert rod bearings. 1956 was the first year Chevy used tang type main bearings and no shims. 1955 and below used dowel type main bearings and shims to adjust the bearings clearence. On 1955 and below engines you have to remove the transmission so you can lower the crankshaft to replace the main bearings. On 1956 and above you can replace the main bearings without removing the transmission or lowering the crankshaft. Same specs for the 261 engine.
I've had people "look at me like I was crazy", because I said: "Stick a Screwdriver in, to Verify it's at TDC". Same firing order as my 1998 Jeep Wrangler I-6! Very cool!
You need one of them harbor freight bore scopes,you would be able to see what the cylinders look like.As for the beds what goes around will come around to them.
suggestion you could take off the fan and put spacers were the fan used to be to hold the pulley= so the fan is out of the way its such a Danger! then add your radiator and use a house hold box fan for air.. great project my dad had a 55 chevy truck
About the fork noise. My dad told me years ago he and a friend was rebuilding an old straight 8 engine. When they were done, they cranked her up and it rattled something terrible. Dad shut it down and the friend said..."So that's whar I left that Crescent wranch..." It was in the oil pan!
Heck that would have been worth it even if you paid 10 times that. Really nice 235. I heard a little valvetrain noise but probably nothing a little seafoam wouldn't fix. I've always loved Straight 6's.
Hi I have a 56' 235 sitting on a rolling dolly. I picked up never heard it run. Everything thing is there my question is do you have a wiring diagram for me to get it up and running on floor
Them old sixes run for ever. Wonder how long it's been since it last ran. Doesn't sound like the valve seats are sunken in from running unleaded. Please tell me you had a nice long talk with the bed thieves?
wow a $25 engine and you get it to run and it sounds great. I dont think I could even buy an engine from pick n pull here for less than $150 and dont even have any guarantee it will run Two thumbs up. Yeah I agree with you on that guy stealing the truck beds you bought and it isnt the money its just the idea that he grabbed the stuff and you waited in the rain to buy them at auction. I would have got a baseball bat too if i found out who it was and he would be walking with a permanent limp. Thanks for sharing love your videos
did you ever track the beds down? I love straight sixes. Funny, you have the v8 memorized, the straight six one always has stuck with me. It is so nice now that a guy can find all that crap online. Kind of like in the old days, my IH pickup you time it off of number 8. I had a book for it, but could you imagine buying one and trying to figure that out pre interwebs?
> thnx w excellent demo; more hands on by the numbers than i could possibly share. 'stuff' disappearing happens everywhere and pisses off mostly the 'stuffee'...here the philippines, rolled outta the fart sack one morning only to discover the local cretins overnight took off with my coaster braked diamond back 'sand surfer' and 2 almost new trek aluminum framed 12 speds. fortunately i had swapped out the db/bell industries moulded plastic sprung tractor saddle onto the '29 rolling rust royce 26" which nobody here wanted anything to do with...and like yourself, im still mad as hell. had the final model yr gmc 4.2l 6 in a shortbed p/u with the small oem wheels > 'workhorse'. thumbs the video amigo
I hate thieves. I have NO use for idiots like that. Plus he helped turn a sweet deal a little bit sour. Every time you'll need a part, guess who'll come to mind ? Oh, yeah it's about the money too. Now you'll have to spend time finding another one then, more money. Grrrrrr Anyway yes those old stove bolts are cool with a split manifold. Old school stuff right there. Hard to weld without cracking them.
Hey I stumbled across your video while doing research on a 1958 Chevy Apache build Im working on. It is all original and I did have it running for a few days but then noticed that the Rochester single barrel carb had a crack in it where the butterfly rotates back and forth. I was wondering if you had a good place to pick up parts for motors like that so that I could replace the carb and then a few of the gaskets on the motor. Any help would be greatly appreciated!! Loved this video and Ill be checking out more from you! Thanks in advance!
Looks just like the engine in my first car a 47 Chevy Coupe. It runs like mine did silky smooth. Great idea for a budget Hot Rod. Hey that Bullet Nose ? !
Wow you are an amazing person. The wealth of knowledge that you have is incredible. Were you raised around this stuff or did you have to learn it all on your own ? I hope that your kids realize how awesome that you are and what they could and can learn from you ! I have a challange for you for a device I saw a plumber use off his truck which was a starter that turned over an alternator so that they could use power tools. He didn't have an inverter that I could see but the alternator puts out enough to run saws and things like that. He would have to leave his desil truck running some time to keep the battery charged enough . See what you can think up !
The old stove bolt six cylinders are pretty bullet proof. The first rig I had as a kid was a 59 Apache fleet side with that motor. I hauled fire wood for a couple years with her with no problems. I'm hoping for some instant karma on the thieves that got your boxes too Jonathan.
All inline 6s are the same firing order. Way I remember it my shop teacher told me a while back was 15 too young 36 too old 24 just right...remember it ever time now😂
Love watching your videos Jonathan I wish you would do a video of a Plymouth fury 1958 Plymouth fury 2 door Christine car That would be awesome do you have any Plymouth fury’s to show to people thank you
I love your videos cant wait for the next one. you inspire me. im going to buy a go pro soon and post some of my own. im like you but with alot of hunting and fishing to boot aha. keep up the good work!
I haven't hunted in years, but I still get to fish some. Hope to do a good catfish video soon.. I look forward to watching your videos, so let me know when you start uploading.
They will run fine, but if they do not have hardened valve seats, without lead additive it will beat the valves into the head over time, so a lead additive or hardened seats are required if it is going to run a lot.
I don't blame you for being angry. i left my garage open for 5 MINUTES yesterday to go in and change into some work clothes. then, from inside the house I see some crack head in a van bolt down my driveway (about 150 feet!). i came out to find him wandering around my back lot. he was trying to sell me some story about trying to find his friends house, then proceeded to tell me he'd leave after he found it...i lost it on him and chased him off the property cursing a blue streak. then i called the cops!! i was ready to beat him senseless.
I'm sure that you know every trick in the book for cold/old starts. I like to put a little gasoline in the carburetor and walk away for 3 - 5 minutes. That you don't use up your battery trying to get it to suck it into the engine. Be patient.
What a great find! I am working on a 57 Chevy 3100 long bed that came right out of a junk yard in Washington. What makes this truck so cool is that it is an old prison truck with the original patina, and prison signs on the doors. We are going to be" rat rodding" it keeping the 235 in it. Thanks for the great video, as we are ready to fire it up. It turns by hand, and every thing looks pretty tight. Let's hope I get lucky like you.
Its great to hear an old engine come to life again. I enjoyed the video, thanks Jonathan and good luck with your projects..
Man that sucks..one thing i hate with a passion is a thief...will pray you get blessed somehow and that matter gets settled..great deal on that motor
Amen
THAT's WHERE the 6 that I yanked out of my '55, went....great shape I see,too!! I had a '55 that and old guy in California sold me for the right price. Drove it home on the 6,and parked it for a year. Came out with a straight axle,a de-stroked 265 @13.5 to one,and a borg t-10,ford 9",one piece font end body work glassed.
That runs smoother than some *NEW* cars!
😂 true
The Chevy 235 was known as a fantastically-running engine. Owned one from 1990 - 2017.
*laughs in coyote v8*
Thank you very much for your your videos. I will be waiting for the next one to see your next adventure. Long time viewer and really enjoy all your hard work.
Hey Jonathan, I'm an old gear head from s.w.Pa. I'm new to your channel and have been binge watching your videos for last couple days and really enjoy them. Looking forward to see what you have in future.
Gotta Love the old Stovebolts...
I love older vehicles thank you so much for making these videos
I always kept an old outboard motor tank with a squeeze bulb handy. Hook it to the carb, lets you take care of no fuel pump and tank for an engine test.
back in minnesota late 60s. Hart Ski company. 40 below zero. 200 cars in the parking lot. 2 cars would start. One of them was my friend Chucks 75 dollar 57 chevy 235 6 standard shift. he then helped jump start lots of the other cars. Chevrolet sold a lot of 6 cylinder vehicles in Minnesota because they would start when it really got cold out.
I have a 235 in my '58 Chevy. I didn't do as good as you. I payed $200.00 for mine, but it's a sweat runner. Yeah, they stopped making the babbitt ones in the early 50's. You probably have a solid lifter engine because it was hooked up to a manual transmission. Thanks, for posting very entertaining videos.
Thanks Bennie, I'm not really up on them. $200 is still a good deal, this was an estate auction, so I was buying blindfolded.
Nice find. Purrs like a kitty. Love those straight sixes.
I've been going to auctions for over 60 year.s ( I'll be 65 in the spring) and have had dealings with my share of thieves and if I see someone taking other peoples property I have no qualms about turning them in to the auctioneer. More than one scum bag has been permanently banned from future auctions because of me.
I have taken to marking my stuff with my name in spray paint when the scrap prices went up 6 or 7 years ago. Haven't had anything grow legs since!!
great video, i used boat trailer swing back wheel jacks with bracket to motor mounts to move engines around.
They stopped making babbitt engines in 1954. Probably solid lifters. Nice job!
Sounds like a good engine, No smoke, sounded quite healthy.
I didn't read all posts so if it'es been discussed, pardon.........There is a steel ball in the flywheel that can be seen through a hole in the flywheel housing on the carb side of the engine, line it with the pointer, that's #1 TDC. The way I used to time it was to loosen the advance on the distributer, calapse the advance, and turn the dist til it runs rough, and smooth when released, tighten everything down, you're good to go. FWIW, I worked on 49-57 Chevy 6 cyl back in the mid late 50s at a taxi service.
The 235 eng. Has insert bearings and full pressure oil system.
Thanks for the run down on doing things on the cheap, learn something new every day. I like the simple engine cart! wish I had thought of that in the past!
That engine came out here in Brazil on the Chevrolet 3100 which in the case was the displacement of it after 3800 that went out in the opal Chevrolet in 68 in 72 and Chevrolet launched the 4,100 or 250s, it came out to 292 only that truck but a great very reliable engine I have one. Chevrolet opala 4100 I am restoring, here also came that engine in the omega Chevrolet but with electronic injection and some improvements to increase the torque of it at low revs, They are wonderful engines
The workmanship that went into the old engines shows to the test of time , bet years into the future they won't be able to throw a modern day engine on a stand and make it run . This could be a great challenge for everyone to do , find a junk yard engine or any old engine make a stand and make it run . I just picked up a 200 six out of a 1966 Ford Mustang . You sparked ......my interest in and old engine running , I'm going find out if this one will run . Good cheap fun .
Might have a few parts if you need any. Even if it had knocked, I still had fun getting it running..
Many new engine blocks & cranks outlive those old 1950s stock whose life was often less than 150,000 miles. More recent engines use better alloys & are machined to closer tolerances; however, their supporting "systems" are generally much more complex.
P.S.: Points-mediated ignition was a PITA, and alternators trump generators....!
Really is good cheap fun.
Nice welding, Jonathan!
The last Chevy 235 to use babbit connecting rod bearings was the 1953 std. shift engine. The 1953 Powerglide engine had insert rod bearings. 1956 was the first year Chevy used tang type main bearings and no shims. 1955 and below used dowel type main bearings and shims to adjust the bearings clearence. On 1955 and below engines you have to remove the transmission so you can lower the crankshaft to replace the main bearings. On 1956 and above you can replace the main bearings without removing the transmission or lowering the crankshaft. Same specs for the 261 engine.
Well glad you got the truck awesome job Johnboy like all your video you do.
I've had people "look at me like I was crazy", because I said: "Stick a Screwdriver in, to Verify it's at TDC". Same firing order as my 1998 Jeep Wrangler I-6! Very cool!
You need one of them harbor freight bore scopes,you would be able to see what the cylinders look like.As for the beds what goes around will come around to them.
No smoke is amazing, never seen that before...
You should run a fantasy camp, i would love to come down and mess around for a week.
Great videos you always show
suggestion you could take off the fan and put spacers were the fan used to be to hold the pulley= so the fan is out of the way its such a Danger! then add your radiator and use a house hold box fan for air.. great project my dad had a 55 chevy truck
About the fork noise. My dad told me years ago he and a friend was rebuilding an old straight 8 engine. When they were done, they cranked her up and it rattled something terrible. Dad shut it down and the friend said..."So that's whar I left that Crescent wranch..." It was in the oil pan!
cant beat those old engines
Sweet. That's the same engine that was originally in my '62 bus.
Dang, it sure would be fun to be around to help you tinker. Wish you were closer.
That engine sounds pretty good nice job. I think it will catch up with those fellas that took those beds.
the engine runs good. congratulations
Heck that would have been worth it even if you paid 10 times that. Really nice 235. I heard a little valvetrain noise but probably nothing a little seafoam wouldn't fix. I've always loved Straight 6's.
Love you vids!!! You know your shit!!! Respect!!!!!
Thanks for making this. I truly enjoyed watching it.
Hi I have a 56' 235 sitting on a rolling dolly. I picked up never heard it run. Everything thing is there my question is do you have a wiring diagram for me to get it up and running on floor
Great to see you figure things out.
Them old sixes run for ever. Wonder how long it's been since it last ran. Doesn't sound like the valve seats are sunken in from running unleaded. Please tell me you had a nice long talk with the bed thieves?
Awesome deal you found!
I love how simple these old engines are, they sound awesome too. Are they able to do alot of miles? they look like they are built to last
Do you ever just stick a garden hose into the radiator hose and let it pour out the other one when running to keep it cool
wow a $25 engine and you get it to run and it sounds great. I dont think I could even buy an engine from pick n pull here for less than $150 and dont even have any guarantee it will run Two thumbs up. Yeah I agree with you on that guy stealing the truck beds you bought and it isnt the money its just the idea that he grabbed the stuff and you waited in the rain to buy them at auction. I would have got a baseball bat too if i found out who it was and he would be walking with a permanent limp.
Thanks for sharing love your videos
Thanks for watching!!
did you ever track the beds down? I love straight sixes. Funny, you have the v8 memorized, the straight six one always has stuck with me. It is so nice now that a guy can find all that crap online. Kind of like in the old days, my IH pickup you time it off of number 8. I had a book for it, but could you imagine buying one and trying to figure that out pre interwebs?
> thnx w excellent demo; more hands on by the numbers than i could possibly share. 'stuff' disappearing happens everywhere and pisses off mostly the 'stuffee'...here the philippines, rolled outta the fart sack one morning only to discover the local cretins overnight took off with my coaster braked diamond back 'sand surfer' and 2 almost new trek aluminum framed 12 speds. fortunately i had swapped out the db/bell industries moulded plastic sprung tractor saddle onto the '29 rolling rust royce 26" which nobody here wanted anything to do with...and like yourself, im still mad as hell. had the final model yr gmc 4.2l 6 in a shortbed p/u with the small oem wheels > 'workhorse'. thumbs the video amigo
I hate thieves. I have NO use for idiots like that. Plus he helped turn a sweet deal a little bit sour. Every time you'll need a part, guess who'll come to mind ? Oh, yeah it's about the money too. Now you'll have to spend time finding another one then, more money. Grrrrrr Anyway yes those old stove bolts are cool with a split manifold. Old school stuff right there. Hard to weld without cracking them.
Would lend Jonathan my gun anytime.
Had a old 1966 Ford pu with a 352 oil bath.I think 67-68 was the last yr of these oil bath engines
some times we just have too shake it off and grin and bare shit happen keep your head straight an look forward no looking back young blood
The timing mark is on the front of the fly wheel there is a little tab u loosen the.screw and lift the tab to see mark on flywheel left side of engine
Love straight six engines!
Do you put lead additive to the gas? These engines ran on leaded fuel at that time but I guess for just a short run it should do no harm.
Hey I stumbled across your video while doing research on a 1958 Chevy Apache build Im working on. It is all original and I did have it running for a few days but then noticed that the Rochester single barrel carb had a crack in it where the butterfly rotates back and forth. I was wondering if you had a good place to pick up parts for motors like that so that I could replace the carb and then a few of the gaskets on the motor. Any help would be greatly appreciated!! Loved this video and Ill be checking out more from you! Thanks in advance!
Looks just like the engine in my first car a 47 Chevy Coupe. It runs like mine did silky smooth. Great idea for a budget Hot Rod. Hey that Bullet Nose ? !
Hope you find the SOB who stole the beds just started watching from central pa great video's keep up good work👍👍
Wow you are an amazing person. The wealth of knowledge that you have is incredible. Were you raised around this stuff or did you have to learn it all on your own ? I hope that your kids realize how awesome that you are and what they could and can learn from you ! I have a challange for you for a device I saw a plumber use off his truck which was a starter that turned over an alternator so that they could use power tools. He didn't have an inverter that I could see but the alternator puts out enough to run saws and things like that. He would have to leave his desil truck running some time to keep the battery charged enough . See what you can think up !
Well i don't blame you one bit for being mad hope you get that stuff back johnboy i could not do people like that
hope you find those beds.
good video. im working on my 51 chevy 3100
ohhh i love that sound.... real great video... thanks !
Music to my ears.
This how i remember the fire order for my 292 Chevy 15 is to young 36 is to old 24 is just right 😊a hot rodder tought me that
Good engine for 25 bucks.
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The old stove bolt six cylinders are pretty bullet proof. The first rig I had as a kid was a 59 Apache fleet side with that motor. I hauled fire wood for a couple years with her with no problems. I'm hoping for some instant karma on the thieves that got your boxes too Jonathan.
old straight six fireing order,,,, 15 is too young, 36 is too old, 24 is just right ;)
Cool, I think I can remember that! Thanks!
thxs! too cool
You are so right. I heard that many years ( 50 ) ago, never forgot it 1,5,3,6,2,4.
All inline 6s are the same firing order. Way I remember it my shop teacher told me a while back was 15 too young 36 too old 24 just right...remember it ever time now😂
Love old engines
Very cool. What is it going in?
Went in a 1928 Hudson Rat Rod
shame so many leave them to rot! were to wasteful as a society
Love watching your videos Jonathan I wish you would do a video of a Plymouth fury 1958 Plymouth fury 2 door Christine car That would be awesome do you have any Plymouth fury’s to show to people thank you
I love your videos cant wait for the next one. you inspire me. im going to buy a go pro soon and post some of my own. im like you but with alot of hunting and fishing to boot aha. keep up the good work!
I haven't hunted in years, but I still get to fish some. Hope to do a good catfish video soon.. I look forward to watching your videos, so let me know when you start uploading.
hey where is the auctions you go too?
It was an estate auction in Burlington, NC.
It sounds really nice. Will old engines like that run on modern pump gas or do you need to use an additive?
They will run fine, but if they do not have hardened valve seats, without lead additive it will beat the valves into the head over time, so a lead additive or hardened seats are required if it is going to run a lot.
Thank you - really enjoy your channel.
At least you use gas. Instead of starting fluid. We blew the distributator out of an old 421 we were trying to start ) live and learn )
did you ever get the beds for this truck ?
What kind of oil did you put in her
I thought 1953 was the last year for babit engines, but I'm probable wrong it's a long time ago from when I worked on the 235's.
I believe your right!!
My first car was a 57 Chev .. wish I still had it!!! :) V8 though .. Gary
Would you be able to do any videos on rebuilding carbs and tuning them??
These old 1 and 2 barrels are pretty basic,the spread and square bore 4 barrels are a little more trickie,mechanical,vaccum seconds,etc
Is it at top dead center on intake or exhaust? It makes a difference.
Blackie Chong
That's why he checked for compression with his finger... obviously on the compression stroke.
Hey what did you do with the white gremlin x
Love this content. 🤘
I don't blame you for being angry. i left my garage open for 5 MINUTES yesterday to go in and change into some work clothes. then, from inside the house I see some crack head in a van bolt down my driveway (about 150 feet!). i came out to find him wandering around my back lot. he was trying to sell me some story about trying to find his friends house, then proceeded to tell me he'd leave after he found it...i lost it on him and chased him off the property cursing a blue streak. then i called the cops!! i was ready to beat him senseless.
Them are strong ol engines
Jonathan, do you have an ebay account? I'd be interested in taking a look at what you've got for sale. -Tom
Nice score!
Nice work!
54 first year for pressure oiling. Hole on bell houseing other side of starter should have pointer in hole.tdc mark on flywheel. Like what your doing.
You got one heck of a deal. That old motor sounds good! What a shame some lowlife stole your beds.
I'm sure that you know every trick in the book for cold/old starts. I like to put a little gasoline in the carburetor and walk away for 3 - 5 minutes. That you don't use up your battery trying to get it to suck it into the engine. Be patient.
Do you still have the 235 6cyc engine 1957?
Here you have so much time to clear your purchases from the auction premises.
Must be the most forgiving engine Chevrolet ever made. May not make much power, but they will always go.
enjoyed this video. Thanks
you still got this old engine?
153624 or 15 to young / 36 to old / 24 just right.
want to see the 70 Pete engine swap