Main Hwei here, theorycrafted a bit and it seem like Stormsurge second is better than shadowflame in term of pure 1v1 damage, shadowflame provide the execute utility but it's less "gold efficient" ig and probably, better teamfight if you can catch more squishy at the same time but eh, the stormsurge movespeed also help, riot designed badly again to me. Didn't tried but with shadowflame you could probably have more kill potential after a good trade than with stormsurge (because of the cd) Also if you're playing versus squishy team, luden is better than blackfire torch
Hey bro, I'm also a ShadowFlame fan because the crit damage is so good against squisy teams and creates more kill potential. But if I have a level lead + oneshot potential. Stormsurge is a good option. But otherwise this item is so useless. Luden is also a better option too, it provides 100 AP right now after the new patch. It's my main item for my oneshot build.
I’ve been trying storm surge as well and I honestly haven’t been liking it that much. I definitely prefer it with ludens over blackfire torch, but it feels hard to get good value out of on hwei since he doesn’t one shot like veigar or syndra would. Any thoughts on cosmic drive? I’ve been building it 3rd or 4th item and I’ve really liked how slipper it makes hwei feel as well as the cdr
Luden or blackfire torch is definetly my first item! Because of the mana issues. I tried storm surge as second, you are totally right! We are not geting so much value from it! Because we don't have a burst like syndra or veigar. But if you get ahead with Hwei, this item would be useful. Because you will definetly oneshot people and execution will be so useful for you! Cosmic Drive is not working with my play style. Because I am always playing as a sniper at the back line, that's why extra movement speed is not that useful for me. But cdr works so well with Hwei, so I will try that also. I am a only buying Cosmic Drive while I am playing Vladimir XD!
Main Hwei here, theorycrafted a bit and it seem like Stormsurge second is better than shadowflame in term of pure 1v1 damage, shadowflame provide the execute utility but it's less "gold efficient" ig and probably, better teamfight if you can catch more squishy at the same time but eh, the stormsurge movespeed also help, riot designed badly again to me.
Didn't tried but with shadowflame you could probably have more kill potential after a good trade than with stormsurge (because of the cd)
Also if you're playing versus squishy team, luden is better than blackfire torch
Hey bro, I'm also a ShadowFlame fan because the crit damage is so good against squisy teams and creates more kill potential. But if I have a level lead + oneshot potential. Stormsurge is a good option. But otherwise this item is so useless. Luden is also a better option too, it provides 100 AP right now after the new patch. It's my main item for my oneshot build.
@@DawnBringerLOL i agree on that
Very nice gameplay of you and thresh
Cheers pal, glad you like it!
Is it still good in the new patch after the nerfs?
It's not that bad, but Luden seems good right now! Because they nerfed burn ratio of Liandries/Blacfire Torch.
@@DawnBringerLOL ohhh thx!
@@FallenOne-cm2mo cheers pal, any time!
I’ve been trying storm surge as well and I honestly haven’t been liking it that much. I definitely prefer it with ludens over blackfire torch, but it feels hard to get good value out of on hwei since he doesn’t one shot like veigar or syndra would. Any thoughts on cosmic drive? I’ve been building it 3rd or 4th item and I’ve really liked how slipper it makes hwei feel as well as the cdr
Oh i have also tried it twice. It’s nice but i feel then i have to give up on either seraphims(i like to spam abilities) or shadowflame
Luden or blackfire torch is definetly my first item! Because of the mana issues. I tried storm surge as second, you are totally right! We are not geting so much value from it! Because we don't have a burst like syndra or veigar. But if you get ahead with Hwei, this item would be useful. Because you will definetly oneshot people and execution will be so useful for you! Cosmic Drive is not working with my play style. Because I am always playing as a sniper at the back line, that's why extra movement speed is not that useful for me. But cdr works so well with Hwei, so I will try that also. I am a only buying Cosmic Drive while I am playing Vladimir XD!
Yes, I am also a skill spammer! You can't spam that much skils when you purchase this item! XD