China’s navy is tipping the balance
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@@olbradley yes, good question... Let me add another one: what about interstitial ads? I hate them!
Meh
Wouldnt this threaten Russia's east side? Doesnt seem like Russia would allow this.
The century of humiliation is predated by the times of inept and totalitarianism, which they could not shake even to this day. The yongle emperor had destroyed the Chinese fleet that sailed in the thousands. Democracy--which allows more than one person to make a decision--would have probably stopped such rash and stupid behaviour. China has to blame itself too for continuing totalitarianism.
When elephants fight, blades of grass are trampled. It's so surreal to be living in a country in the middle of all this. From the Philippines.
Good luck going forward. I do not envy your situation.
Yeah and with a spineless president like the Philippines has it must be tough.
India is always there for you .
@@sanlouci Is it spineless to tell the League of Nations to not meddle in internal matters and to keep killing ruffians that deal in narcotics? President Duterte is not perfect but spineless is not the right word.
@@nathanlegare705 You are off topic. China plunders Philliphines oceans of fishes daily with hundreds of fish and plan to exploit the regions natural resources and Duterte kisses Beijing’s Ass, How cowardly for a head of state
Glory to the CCP!! 🇨🇳🇨🇳
Very entertaining though. Very hard to resist the urge to comment and not get sucked into the dumb boi trap lmao
Avengers assemble
@@bobbymitchell9747 you're full of it! ;)
Well first of all, Bitcoin has grown 3% the last 30 minutes, Dow Jones has the highest down in 5 hours.
We have now some detailed analysis about the conflict between some powerful states: They clearly wants to be more powerful than the other, that's a fact.
That's all friend. Thank you.
They're not in the comments section. That's for sure
I really want a video on how important navies actually are in modern conflict. We’ve never seen a modern naval battle.
Navies are still very important for the benefit of the air force. Carriers are moving islands, and require protection of battleships and destroyers. Because of that, they'll still be useful for amphibious warfare too.
Trade is still dominated in the seas, security and destruction of supply lines is still very crucial for navies
Navies are as important now as they have ever been, and Uncle Sam has a big one.
@@bernardedwards8461 i feel like the navy was more important 1700-1900 ad tbh . International disputes wars and exploitation .
@J Jones Thats just dumb
@@emperornguyen Just FYI, battleships have been obsolete since the 1950s and no navy in the world uses them now.
Man I just wrote a 7 page essay on this topic two weeks ago, where was this? Lazy of you not to post when I needed you most.
Hahah I'm writing a master thesis about this topic
Where do you get so interesting things to study on? Which country do you guys live in and what courses?
@@nimishtomar You can think of studies such as International Relations, Political Science and Security Studies.
@@nimishtomar International Relations at the University of Milan, specifically the name of the curriculum is International Politics and Regional Dynamics. If you have further questions feel free to ask.
@@nimishtomar the United States, this course is comparative politics, but luckily I’ve just finished
If we learned anything in our long history on conflicts, any arms race will create alot of suffering around it, may be not against US and China, but other periferal nations around it, and that scares me since Im in SEA region
"When two elephants fight is the grass that suffer the most" I think the saying goes.
Anyhow, I for once am happy to live in South America. This may be a region riddled with corrupt governments and economic crisis, but at least we have close to 0 geoestrategic importance.
@@mattsavigny6084 in many ways, stability is a gift of American hegemony in the Americas
Because no one is crazy enough to challenge the US in the Americans, not even Brazil which recognizes its better to be viewed by Washington as a crucial ally than a dangerous threat
As a result the most violence most Latin Americans ever have to worry about is the same as those the average US citizen worries about, crime and state violence
And that’s a much better state to being than being on the frontlines of great power competition
Or being abandoned by them all together like Africa, where I’m from
Better to be someone’s backyard(South America) than their dump (Africa) or worse their battle field (the Middle East and Asia )
@@BasicLib I know, in a way our situation is the opposite of South East Asia: paceful societies that become richer by the day but face the risk of war.
As for Africa I think its importance will increase in the next decades as its a huge market that will become highly disputed by the great powers.
@@mattsavigny6084 Such struggle could threaten to tear out fragile nations apart
African nations are MUCH weaker than many from outside realize
And I don’t mean economics or military
I mean fundamentally weaker social constructs that have a tendency to erupt into ethnic conflict and are barley governable
That’s the real reason Africa has lagged behind so much, our countries are fundamentally ridiculous and virtually ungovernable
then dont become puppet and cannon fodder for america and it's allies to attack china, just stay neutral and do nothing.
This is an amazingly detailed video on what the world is likely to look like in Asia by 2030. Beautifully concise and gets the point across quickly. Well done.
Lmao that's hilarious, where is the talk about China's major water, population, and housing crises in 2030?
@@iamaloafofbread8926 overblown sensationalism from another youtube academic.
@@iamaloafofbread8926 this video is about China's ambition not China itself
@Maverick Both below the replacement rate.
Yet both of them have growing populations.
Ah yes, the People's Liberation Army Navy.
Tis all part of the P.L.A.N.
The Army navy...a contradiction in terms.
@@knoahbody69 the army here means more as armed forces than land army, think like people‘s liberation armed forces - naval branch
@@Birdman369 when asians need to explain to americans how to speak english...
@@aj2228 that is so racist.
Another great segment Shirvan. Excellent analysis!
This is a number game. It doesn't mean anything. The US is still the most murderous country in the world.
" The US Navy maintains 11 carrier strike groups, 9 of which are based in the United States and one that is forward deployed in Yokosuka, Japan. "
It’s a sad truth that China has invested heavily on infrastructure like shipbuilding ports, high speed rail, and other projects that the U.S.A could have but didn’t as we would rather give tax breaks to billionaires and corporations.
Ya but the usa also owns all the largest companies, facebook could cripple most governments by shutting down their pages lol... meanwhile china imprisons jack ma, their 1 successful buisnessman
@@Wildboy789789 www.amacad.org/sites/default/files/publication/downloads/Perils-of-Complacency_Report-Brief_4.pdf
read this you might find it interesting
it states that the share of the Number of Companies
in Global Fortune 500 between US and China are almost equal in 2018
@@Wildboy789789 If anybody but you believes this, West has already lost...
@@Wildboy789789 yes. Because they have law not like the US where the billionaire can lobby the lawmakers for their own good. I have no idea why the poor in the US worship and protect their billionaire even though they literally treat their slaves 🤔
@@Wildboy789789 Governments do not depend on their Facebook pages to operate. Some countries block Facebook on purpose on their territory.
I swear to god this channel is making me more and more anxious
why are u apprehensive
China is no more evil than any other government. Don't fear.
@@jbrown8601 sure, compared to Mayamar or any other backwater tyrannies then they dont look so evil
China is looking for supremacy in its own back yard. Unless you live on one of disputed islands there (total population less than 500 people), or Taiwan I don't see why you would worry. It's not like China is going to invade your place anytime soon. They can't even invade Taiwan, even if they are able to blockade it.
So America can have Naval supremecy in all Ocean and they can invade any country they want on fake allegations,but when China do Naval supremacyit in their backyard, it is EVIL!!!
I dig the reggae colors.
And we have military ads in the USA about a soldier having 2 moms 🤣🤣
That's incorrect. That was Cruz' posting Russian propaganda targeting *your* country.
@@elvenkind6072 ad the is real thoug. But I see how thats relevant to this conversation of sea power.
Good job, like always! There are not enough channels that achieve to maintain neutrality when it comes to politics. Please, never change
Geopolitical commentary isn’t political. It’s only factual. When a source gets political about geopolitics, it’s because they don’t understand geopolitics.
@@brazenlancer9484 wait so your saying geopolitics is political even tho it literally had politics in its name ? Just because it’s not the same kind of politics that elect a leader of a country doesn’t mean it’s not a form of international politics
@@daytonhh9698 I’m saying that geopolitics isn’t political. Yes. It’s factual and observable. Just because it’s in the name doesn’t mean anything. We’re using an English word. Geo is the functional part of the world. As in geographic.
When it comes to Russia his bias is obvious
@Yusef N you’re not wrong. We just shouldn’t continue giving any of our time to any source that delivers bias of any kind ever.
One of the best channels on TH-cam. I cant tell you how much Ive learned from this man. Thank you
Very much agreed, I think the biggest lesson I've learned is:
_"In the world of geopolitics there are no allies only nations and national interests"_
And now I no longer care what a politician does when it's perceived by their constituents to be controversial because I understand that all the world is a stage and we are not the only ones on it
Yh!
My favorite sentence is the last one: "For victory at sea is paramount in shaping intractable settings on land."
But this channel lacks independent critical thinking. Very easy example, it never illustrates China's point of view whenever it talks about China. It only talks about views that others have on China. Even if CaspianReport doesn't support China's POV, it shouldn't be the reason for him to exclude China's POV.
"A country loses its currency reserve status when it loses its first naval battle."
1.4 billion will out work 320 million
@@levelazn Outwork and outperform are not the same thing though
@@levelazn China doesn't appear to have a stable economy
@@quantumfrost9467 look up Chinese gdp. In the last twenty years. China is the only country that had a positive gdp last year.
@@sterlz6565 Chinese routinely out perform with less pay than its us counter parts :)
By 2050, I'll definitely finish my 10 years reservist cycle and enter the MR.
The maps and camera angles in these videos are absolutely stunning. 100% top class!
Agreed
Maybe 99.9% because Taiwan is not a part of China. Taiwan is a independen country.
@@saulperez6534Democratic Republic of China**
@@saulperez6534 the REAL china
@@OddZodd the real Republic is located in Taiwan because Taiwan is a democracy right??? The mainland is no democracy.
Remarkable how much they have expanded their navy in such a short time frame.
That can happen when you spend a generation focusing on your people, thus the nation, thus the economy. Had they focused on their militaty this entire time they probably wouldve gone the way of the USSR. They did it the right way, maybe we could learn a thing or two from them
@@liammarra4003 the west will never learn from china. they don't wanna "lose face"
@@inuken9561 The West has Biden. They’ve already lost face.
Building ships in fast speed is good but are the good to fight that's the big question I think building ship is different then a good and effective ship
They are mainly brown/green water ships.
No threat to the the US or any Western navy.
Like the guy in the video said quantity and quality are two different things.
That was an amazing report Shirvan!! I love your content.. Thank you
0:05 "Talks about the Chinese Navy, shows Japanese Navy"
So that's why DOD what's to build 195 new ships by 2030. I thought that was so odd but now I understand the context better. Thanks Shirvan.
See the Washington and London naval treaties.
George Friedman say that us army pumps China navy numbers on purpose to get more budget.
USA
Ships are an outdated form of naval combat. Controlled drone missiles are the absolute counter to them. The only reason we would build more ships is the military industrial complex.
@@clockworkcrew8012 people said the same in ww2 when aircraft carriers were first introduced
7:36 "The growth of the PLA navy is remarkable" - shows footage of Canadian frigate.
And then Japanese
It's not like he'd be able to get a photo himself lol
These clips are paid for and are limited to a few countries. China censors many media outlets so it isnt possible to use their clips.
@@junaidahmad6534 Just be Chinese -_- it's legit that easy.
Dude I've seen Chinese air force recruiting videos....they used parts out of transformers the movie and top gun , and used those clips for its own air force recruiting video
US is like USSR at the time of Gorbachev
China is like US at the time of pearl harbor
I'm doing a bachelors in International Studies at a pretty decent University in the Netherlands and I have learned more from this channel than in all those lectures. In my opinion, what would really make this content more powerful is to include a bibliography/reference list of sources that you base your arguments on. The absence of references makes me very hesitant to actually incorporate this content in my 'general knowledge' that I would dare use in conversations etc. Also, it provides a nice entry for further reading if people are interested!
I wouldn't do that at all!! He has made many incorrect statements as well, when it comes to US-Caucasus countries relations. Statements that can be actually factually disputed! He for example never mentioned Gladio B! Let's start there...
the advantage of Chinese Navy ships is they're relatively close from their mainland, while the US Navy ships "scattered" around the world.. it's no doubt that they're the master of their backyard.. with their shipbuilding capacity I think we don't have to wait long to see them surpass the US in tonnage.. and as an Indonesian, this is worrying..
good video as always mate.. 👍
Oh no, your navy is having naval exercise with them now.
@Marco Alibrio it's easy for you to say that. the reality is our economy depends heavily on chinese investment, and the west have not contribute enough to our economic development. If you have understanding in economics, you'll understand the formula. We are not so different with Europe that has become a satellite to the US. Please understand.
@Marco Alibrio Can you describe from where do you know these "many" Indonesians who talk of China as a future ally?
I'm afraid that'd be the bias of only, let's say, stereotypical urban upper & middle class (and only some of them too, not all)
The majority of the country realizes what CCP really wants to be and understand the threat....
The thing is, who's in Indonesian government currently? Well it's those urban upper & middle class that stands the most to win too.
At the end of the day, it is a class thing...
@@ISPS-kh9wt "Understanding in economics" itu seperti apa ya mas? Parameternya seperti apa, datanya dari mana? Mungkin Bisa dijelaskan impor dan ekspor kita paling besar sama negara apa ya sekarang? Kok malah bilang kita jadi "satellite to the US", lucu banget. Yang ada justru kita adalah "satellite to PRC"
that's an interesting point. If war broke out between China and America's allies, it would take weeks for US naval power to concentrate in the Pacific Ocean, which would make having as many missile platforms in the area as possible vital to slowing down attacks until initial reinforcements could arrive. Then, if it became a protracted war, the missile defense system would need to help buy time for an expansion of the US navy
This makes me extremely frustrated with my INDIAN government and its outdated policies. It's time for some change and DEVELOPMENT.
I wish we could be less religious and focus all our mind and energy we otherwise use for absolutely useless religious conflicts and politics on INFRASTRUCTURE, MEDICAL,EDUCATIONAL AND SCIENTIFIC DEVELOPMENT.
Well said.
Honestly bro the whole World is praying for India. You guys have the potential to do far more good than anyone could imagine.
Let's be friends 🇮🇳🇵🇰
India is governed by a religious extremist group that are destroying their country by religious segregation, and no superpower will have mercy,
Build some toilets before you build big weapons
SEA nations : *chuckles* Yeah, we're fine. We're just fine. We don't really care, ya'll just going to crash on us anyway.
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@@andro7862 nice
@@andro7862 Indonesia doesn't have shariah law though?
@Richard Yaegar lol I got news about Afghanistan
At the same time, the U.S. will be eating itself alive with wokeness.
You should be worried about them exporting their "wokeness" to your countries.
We strive to better ourselves or we are no better than the Chinese
“No matter what they tell you Mr. Bane. It IS the size of your gun that counts.” -Mr. Freeze
*It's NOT the size of the weapon! It's the fury of the attack!*
Ok now we're quoting the classics.
Size is not the only factor to winning a battle. For example the United States soldiers against the viet cong in the Vietnam war.
It's like putting a guy with a submachine gun up against a guy with a rocket launcher. Who wins?
"Big guns are good guns"
-Sun Tzu, the Art of War
As Admiral Cunningham said, "It takes 3 years to build a ship. It will take 300 years to build a new tradition". Building ships is one thing but operating a navy is quite another.
US navy is quite incompetent. They were able to defeat Japan because of their sheer material advantage.
@@gytx5339 say what
That won't save America.
@@gytx5339 neither force was actually really good in naval combat when it came to ground combat they were a much more even match but the USA had more resources it really was just the Japanese if they were not able to scare the Americans out of fighting them or to stop they were always going to lose there was never a chance that they were going to beat the United States of America it was just not possible.
@@gytx5339 yeah, naval experience costs a lot, the CCP will have a lot of funny losses before their generals start having any positive effect on their combat capabilities xd
Thank you for the good analysis.
Thank you Shirvan from Caspian Report
China : Expand
The rest of Asia : *(Chuckles) I'm in danger*
😓
all of eurasia aside for Russia and India by the looks of it
As a Taiwanese I genuinely feel stressed over the prospect of my home being blown to rubbles over their idiotic chauvinist nationalistic ideologies.
@@ru4582 As a Vietnamese, I feel the same
@@ru4582 dude any Taiwanese who thought this day won't come is a big fool.
You really think Taiwan will last?
China lacks one thing the US does not... alllies. this si why china goes to great lengths to stop negotiations
They in qn economic alliance with india and Russia
Lol... Like we even take care of our own.
@@thedirty530 what is even the point of your comment? Alliances are not real because we don't take care of our own?
@@nonnaurbisness3013 What does our word really mean if we don't do what we say.... I'd say it's an issue of credibility we aught to be concerned with!
@@thedirty530 what the fuck are you talking about? Give me a real life example. Are you saying what happened to polland in ww2 is gonna happen to the usa? Or what are you getting at? Our allies might not join us because we don't keep our word?
If you haven't already it would be interesting to hear you discuss the relationship between China and Australia/New Zealand and Pacific nations.
I found a relevant video: th-cam.com/video/-IodncMroGw/w-d-xo.html
Thank you for mentioning the 100 years of humiliation. A lot of China's aggressive moves are based off this.
That may be a factor in Chinese thinking, but the real ultimate cause, as it always is, is human nature, more specifically a will to defend their own shoreline and a will to impose their will on others, this being to ensure their survival and to acquire power, the latter being the best means of ensuring the former, which is the main reason humans evolved a will to power in the first place of course.
Defensive moves, not aggressive moves. It was stupid to publicly announce the "pivot to Asia".
@@nat1bott Why is us ships thousand if miles from their own coastline? To protect china's own trade route?
@@AFlyingCookieLOL To protect their various allies trade routes.
Great video Shirvan, as always! 👏🏽
I'm sure for most people it's news that China has the world's largest navy & is also growing faster than any other major navy.
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@@Fjfkaadf Hi, there :)
@@terramater can you subscribe channel called defenc line. That man makes videos as caspian report. And his videos is in English too
He makes politics videos mainly military technology
Mostly small ships; waaaaay behind in tonnage and capability.
This is scary, the fact that China can just Missile strike my home country of the Philippines is terrifying.
don't give them a reason to like hosting US destroyers and ballistic missiles lol
Unlikely. Starting a war with ballistic missiles is a guarantee to get nuked, because the other side have no way of knowing that it isn’t nuclear.
@@soulsphere9242 they have a huge population to invest in and take care of lol. They cant just America-it and blow money on a large militaty. Thays a good way, fast way to straight economic collapse.
And yet the current president likes china and say he'll throw away the paper saying we have rights in the west phillipine sea
@@soulsphere9242 we have been investing heck we have 2 new warships just this year alone although they are pretty puny against the Chinese fleet
This is such a good channel. I really like it! Keep it up!
If you lose to China by number of ships, count by tonnage, if you lose by tonnage in the future, count by how how many moms your military men and women have. Yhis way you keep winning!🤣
He completely disregarded that all the other countries in the region have growing economies and so they grow their navies and have their own A2/AD strategies against China. It's also very unlikely that external powers like US, EU and India will just sit and wait until China breaks out of the first island chain.
a lot of their economic growth is because they don't have to spend as much on navies
There is no doubt that their economy is growing fast. But the navy is a different thing. Insufficient funding means incomplete fleet structure, which will greatly limit its capabilities. Like SK and Japan has AEGIS ships but no carriers, Britain has carriers but not enough escort(only 6 non-AEGIS destroyers), while India has no AEGIS nor good carrier.
Well, China is not that capable either, with just good enough AEGIS-type destroyers but incapable carriers of Soviet design.
@@justinokraski3796 Who? China or the other countries? The other countries' economies are growing, some even faster than China now and they are also upgrading their naval capabilities. He should have considered that in his analysis.
@@xinyansun9174 Of course the ASEAN countries will never have navies that can match China, but they don't need to. The thing is as their economies are growing so are their navies and especially A2/AD capabilities. So it's not the same as for the US that in the Caribbean the next largest country is Cuba. What these countries need is a navy that will be able to hold China until US, EU or India can come to their aid against China and this is possible even for countries like Vietnam, Philippines or Indonesia. And that's why it won't be an easy task for China to break out even out of the first island chain.
EU is irrelevant both military and economically and India is a poor third world country.
They have no play on that game.
Big in terms of quantity, but quality is another thing altogether.
Seriously? China already makes nuclear submarines, quality is no longer a problem.
@@dragosstanciu9866 Sure, but he still has a point.
@@dragosstanciu9866 all nuclear subs are not equal, same goes for the other ship classes
This is what the Germans said to the Americans👀
While the U.S. fleet is falling apart
I would love you to do a follow up video to this, that would review the current situation in Myanmar and how China is likely to leverage the issue.
US is trying to destabilize the region
Lies again? This Is Paris
2021: US Aircraft Carrier Theodore Roosevelt entered the South China Sea. Germany, UK, India et al have sent warships to conduct freedom of navigation exercises.
Russia, China, and Iran will also conduct a naval exercise in the Persian Gulf coming soon.
The US is still a larger navy by tonnage. The US has larger capable ships, that's even before you count allies such as Japan, Korea, UK, Australia etc.
@` ́ ` ́ We (our government) don't like strong allies, we prefer dependent allies (client states like Japan and South Korea, or the Baltic, and Balkan NATO members).
But china only wants to be strong in its coastal seas whereas us is concentrated everywhere.
As Yamamoto once put it, "Even the mightiest serpent can be slain by a swarm of ants." Or, as Stalin put it, "Quantity is a quality all on its own." Just because the USN has China beat in terms of tonnage doesn't mean that getting swarmed by cheap, easily mass produced, and disposable, but still lethal enemy warships isn't a serious concern.
@@Epistolary8 The US navy also has experience, something which China lacks, the UK was the last major country to fight a major air/sea war (Falklands) the US will not be fighting alone once you add US allies, China will be outnumbered, have less experience and smaller less technological advanced vessels. The US allies such as UK, Australia, South Korea, Japan, France, Germany, Italy and Spain, could likely contribute another 300-400 ships between them
@@Spartan-jg4bf The US Navy doesn't have any relevant experience though. The last time the US Navy fought a major power war, there were no hypersonic missiles and drones. The Royal Navy had 2 centuries more naval combat experience than the Imperial Japanese Navy at the start of World War II. Yet the Royal Navy got completely slaughtered by the IJN. The Royal Navy had no experience with a naval war where air power is decisive, and they were no match against the elite pilots of the IJN.
Remember when the Ming dynasty had the biggest navy? Good times
I remember that!
You should read the book 1421
By Gavin Menzies.
@@catrojana3694 what its about
@@Aimal126 the author was a former usn captain and he wrote the book claiming america was discovered by china. He based his claims from many sources he unearthed but read it with a pinch of salt.
if power is the only way to greatness, then the only way to greatness is war. be careful what you wish for, idiot.
Ok and the US is going to take this without expanding their own naval assets? I would have liked to have heard more about the possible reactions from countries like Japan, Australia, India, and others.
It's a bit ambitious, I would think. A helluva lot would have to go right for them to ascend in such a way. They have myriad internal challenges to deal with over the next several decades
This is well done! 💯
Thank you for informing us of the subject. You are the best geopolitical channel out there. Keep up the good work.
One thing I noticed: a bit misleading to only say US carriers haven't sailed entered the Taiwan Strait since 2008. Because other US navy ships actually sail through the Taiwan Strait regularly.
He literally addressed that. He spoke about how pairs of US ships regularly enter Chinese waters. How is it misleading?
@@realtissaye
"Things have changed considerably since 1996, and the American carriers haven't entered the Taiwan Strait since 2008. Foreign navies still sail near the Chinese mainland, but only do so with pairs of vessels, as not to appear provocative."
Nothing factually wrong, but you can see how it is phrased to create a stronger feeling. Taiwan Strait in the first sentence, no Taiwan Strait in the second sentence, for instance.
(shrug) Minor gripe. Very informative and interesting video :)
@@belmany you went to some trouble to explain / defend your first comment, I thought I would take the time to say that I noticed and see that you are justified in your original gripe and successful in supporting your observations =D well done
@@realtissaye freedom of navigation waters within bombing range of beijing.
can you please compile a book with your analysis of geopolitics region wise and keep it in the market on amazon
Random Indians in the comment section: WE WILL BE THE NEXT SUPERPOWER
I completed a course on military strategy some years ago. One of the many points made that I remember was how naval strength is the determiner of military strength. If China is beginning to gain supremacy in the sea, it won't be long until they will have the total military advantage.
USA is not sitting still they are churning out ships too if not at the Chinese pace , but Chinese have more enemies too like south Korea, Vietnam, japan, India who has a big navy if not as big as china
@@arnoldshmitt4969 s.korea and Vietnam are neutral. They will not shed blood against china, because they will take most the damage. Japan would stand with the US because it knows Chinese hate.
@@arnoldshmitt4969 India and China both have a large amount of bad or not even effective ships numbers aren’t all they wouldn’t stand a chance against the us navy as of right now but in the future as they build better ships and more then america then they can make moves on countries and the Indians aren’t growing their economy enough to make a effective navy that has useful ships.
@@arnoldshmitt4969 South Korea prefer to be concerned with NK as China makes them much money (and if China stop supporting NK, SK knows there would be lot of refugees coming (spies included) and they don't want that since they know of both west-east Germany merging and the cost)
Vietnam might be pissed at China (like all Asian countries with Chinese empires, having to bow to China) but until they accept dozen US military bases (and airbase with nuclear bombs surely) near its border it is just words (since it would mean Vietnam would lose lot of civilians in a war not US) ,
Japan will support US fonops but knows it needs China as much as China needs Japan, for economy and rare earth (until more countries can refine them in larger tonnage to replace China) ! (so not sure they would really support an US war with China, words and act of support to Taiwan yes, but a real war, not sure)
India might do skirmish with China but they still know they are still nuclear powers (and if focused on China, Pakistan might use that time to attack)
Nah, bro. - they still haven't recovered from 1 child policy.
Grade A content, as to be expected from this channel and host. Well done.
Awesome content, as usual!
Can you imagine how nice the world would be or how much we would have accomplished if we was to have put all this effort for something positive instead of trying to destroy each other?
Sometimes I think it’s just the cycle of life across the universe that human like species gets too smart for their own good
It's actually reversed, like it or not war and geopolitical arms races give a major boost to technological advancements, with spinoffs leading to lots of useful non-military applications.
Think of the Manhattan project, without it nucleair technology wouldn't be nearly as advanced as it is. Without German V2 rockets and research rocket science wouldn't be nearly as advanced, and arguably WWI and WWII accelerated the development of aviation, helping commercial aviation indirectly, too.
Humanity works best if a small set of large groups compete with each other and try to outsmart one another. While you would theoretically expect us to do better if we just all worked together, that just isn't the case. Because it stimulates a kind of lazy mentality, things like the Manhattan project or getting people on the moon can really only happen though concerted efforts and lots of political will to pour in the required recources, and that political will is only present in a highly competitive context like a (cold) war.
What would even be the incentive to finance really expensive projects with enormous future potential but no short term commercial benefits? No company would pay for that, and without geopolitical rivalries, no government would either(voters wouldn't like it too).
@@dekippiesip I completely agree but eventually they will use those weapons just like when Germany used the V2 on London and just like when America used the nuclear weapons
(One cannot simultaneously prevent and prepare for war)
He who rides the tiger can never dismount.
If only humans could be trusted to keep their hands to themselves....
So we can blame the glorious British Empire......again!
*Damn Bri'ish"*
Every time you said "china is turning to the sea", I think about the SEA.. the southeast asia
The expansion project they are currently under is reminiscent of the same plans Japan had in the 30s The timeline of China being vulnerable to the European and American powers is over, the west is now undergoing internal political weakening and China waits patiently. Taiwan is in the crosshairs for sure....😒
@@Jason-xc1qi Sad but true. Also true that if the CCP dictators are not removed from power in time, China will end up devastated...just like Japan did.
I mean, they kinda are turning towards both? Southeast Asia is the most important foreign region for China. Beijing would have to be criminally incompetent to not look there first.
Not always in the western news is... china holds regular naval exercise with south east asian countries.
@@kirkc9643 Xi does not hold ultimate power, he is just the voted representative of the politburo. Add to that, China is very stable internally and the people overwhelmingly support the party. To remove the CPC, you'd have to remove the people first. What you suggest is an impossible task. The people ARE the government, it can only fall if it's citizens themselves want it to.
The rate at which China is building ships is, frankly, incredible. They’re churning them out faster than the US during WWII. It’s a true engineering/manufacturing achievement. Will be interesting to see how they wield this new power over the next few decades.
The Americans in ww2 built like 3,500 ships in ww2 right?
I assume they will start enforcing a 'rules based order' by patrolling up and down America's coastline.
The US built 21 aircraft carriers and 70 escort carriers in ww2, along with 200 destroyers. What are you talking about?
@@johnb5254 if the Chinese have the logistical capability to reach, they are free to sail their ships anywhere they want in accords with international maritime law.
But they don’t.
@@GtdAquataine they built are more than that, check your stats
The total tonnage of Chinese navy is 2.4million tons until May 2021, compare to 1.8 million tons in 2019，added 0.6million tons in 2 years
To give you an idea （These are TOP 11 navy by tonnage in 2020）:
11 Austrialian navy : 0.18 million tons，
10 Italian navy : 0.19 million ，
9 Brazilian navy : 0.2million ，
8 Korean navy : 0.27 million，
7 French navy : 0.31million，
6 Indian navy : 0.34 million，
5 British navy : 0.48 million ，
4 Japanese navy: 0.49million ,
3 Russian navy: 1.1 million ，
1 Us navy : 3.5 million .
You should get binkov to review the stock footage and mark out tonnage and armaments on all the ships displayed!
Binkov is not neutral.
Any suggestions for neutral?
@@unknowninfinium4353 Nah, it's quite neutral. Although it was frequently called otherwise especially when he made a video about Russia a few years ago calling Putin's policies unsustainable and could lead to economic hardship which ironically happened a few years later.
@Sebres Ludolf I feel like it's a troll answer.
@@tadoshka5170 Thanks.
A century of humiliation.....that ended up modernising China.
Actually China could have modernised earlier just after their civil war but they were sold out by the US who changed their mind and instead helped KMT even though they were corrupted as hell.
@@catrojana3694 help uncle Mao 🤔 the Chinese Communist party destroyed Chinese culture and murdered tens of millions... And let's be honest...Japan kicked the shit out of China, if it wasn't for the West intervening and helping nationalist China. The communists never even with the Japanese... And yet if you look at today's communist parties propaganda movies showing communist forces kicking the shit out of Japan which kung fu. The United States is not perfect but give me the United as top dog on this planet... Not the most racist and most dangerous country .... China. Who invented and discovered nothing in 5 centuries... And owe West everything... Including the Communist system of Government.
If build quality of their ships match quality of their new built housing, It will be 2-3 years, before Poseidon will claim their fleet.
Who cares how big the military of another country, one Nuke and we are all toast. Parents of kids in the PLA just want to see them retire in due course and look after mum and dad.
China clearly thinks that there's no problem with the one hundred years of humiliation, except that they were on the wrong end of the humiliation. As soon as they got the chance, they are like, hey Tibet, we are taking your country and move aside small nations around OUR ocean, we are fishing out everything here.
Miroslav Houdek "As soon as they got the chance, they are like, hey Tibet, we are taking your country"
Tibet has been part of China for longer than USA has been a country. They only temporarily lost control over its borders due to foreign invasions and civil conflict. And legally speaking, Tibet had always been part of China for the past 300+ years.
@@yerri5567 I want some Mongolians in the comment section to enlighten this good sir!
@@ameyzagade94 Why dont you do it yourself?
@@yerri5567 Yeah, and suddenly they weren't anymore, and don't wanted to be. By your logic, Ireland should be part of UK.
@@yerri5567 completely irrelevant. The fact that China held Tibet, a land with it's own culture, it's own language, it's own ethnicity, and NO desire to be ruled by the Chinese, just says that the Chinese have been awful even before the century of humiliation.
This is what happens when you make a deal with the devil.
@Contact Don’t forget Corporate America and Big Tech.
By devil you mean the US right?
@Contact free market capitalism sold you out. Free market capitalism doesnt need the US. Kind of seems like Americans thought that that it did lol. Slow rot, on the other side of the earth. No one will care, completely of our own making. Slow rots better than a fast burn though, so, meh, our kids and their kids misery it will be.
@@MrEnric98 Wrong!
There is no angel / devil among China or the United States, because this situation is not black-and-white.
Build-ups like these have entirely to do with ideological conflicts, financial incentives, and hegomonial fears (in a word: competition).
If you asked me what nation seems more trustworthy, though, let us just say the U.S. hasn't proved to be an international role model throughout its years of existence.
Good analysis and presentation of the potential of what a large PLAN force could enable. However, the discussion of the potential reach of the PLAN beyond the first island chain reminds me of the thinking of British planners in their offensive for the Battle of Passchendaele in WWI. Trench warfare had largely made large movements in the West impossible by that time, but this didn't stop British planners from preparing for a major breakthrough that would allow for mounted cavalry exploitation into the German rear. The latter never happened of course and outside of moving the lines a little bit, nothing significant outside of some attrition was gained. I doubt there is much potential for the PLAN to solidify control of the 1st island chain until at least 2040 and even that I think is unlikely.
First, modern naval warfare requires extensive experience and training in joint operations. While the PLA has joint theater commands, there is no significant evidence of large scale, realistic joint-force exercises. They have had no major amphibious operations in the past several decades and thus no one has any real experience with conducting one, especially in parallel with a major ongoing air-sea campaign. While they can read up on it, actual, realistic practice is something that requires major investment and so far, such practice has not been observed.
Second, culture will eat strategy for breakfast. In particular, the organizational culture of the CCP and its child institutions like the PLA promotes corruption at every level, diverting resources away from force development and modernization. The PRC is yet to produce the high-performance chip, engine and other technologies needed to manufacture high-quality ships, aircraft and weapons. It is unclear just how well their equipment will perform, when corruption is rife and would likely impact actual quality. Just because they have lots of equipment doesn't mean that they are any good. Soviet ships featured a large number of missiles, but after the Cold War, it was found that their quality was not high and the number of rounds was a reflection of that (i.e. most were expected to either miss or fail to operate). Moreover, this corruption hurts joint force cooperation as this would require cooperating with people and organizations outside of the normal relationship structures. Highly personal command relationships corrode the effectiveness of formal hierarchies and even when deployed into joint operational forces, it is hard to see how units from different branches will be able to work together when they don't trust each other.
Remember that the US had significant issues with joint operations throughout the Cold War and has had to do a number of reforms in order to get the current structure, where the various branches develop and train units that are then allocated to the regional and functional combatant commands. It did so because direct experience showed the importance of joint and combined operations that are reinforced by an appropriate culture. The PLA doesn't have anything close to such experience and it is not something that is easy to learn.
Finally, the PRC demographics and economy points to a significant aging of the country. As the average age of workers get into the 50's, the dynamism of the economy will lag, slowing down innovation and output. Although there will be a lot of people, they will be much older and the pool of suitable soldiers and officers will be smaller. Moreover, a smaller economy means fewer resources through which to develop a Navy and Air Force This will force a turn inward, particularly if dissatisfaction leads to domestic unrest.
US and allied planners should of course consider a range of outcomes and be mindful of a worst-case scenario. But based on what is actually happening and taking into account the culture of the PRC and its competitors, then the PLA will likely have to be content with a contested control of its nearby seas for the foreseeable future.
Thanks for this knowledge!
Still feels very surreal as a person living in the Philippines.
I live in guam and I don't feel safe
@@fcuagency2163 the U.S. won’t just give up Guam. It’s our territory-nation.
that’s why you should keep dutuerte elected then you will be safe
@@mint8648 or likely, his daughter mayor being the next one taking her dad's steps. At least according to local Philippine news sites like GMA, ABS CBN, and others.
Still, looks like we need battle war music of all kinds. Let there be blood for we are born to die.
I just feel poetic at this moment in the tone of that 2008 batman movie's Joker. Makes you hate humanity as a whole sadly, in a really tragic way
Some people just to watch the world burn.
Our heads are stuck in our asses that's why. We will be the first to fall.
Appear weak when you' strong and appear strong you're weak
Nah that's not how it works
Pozdrawiam z Polski Czeski bracie!
@@MiSt3300 Kolegów nie masz, że musisz jakiegoś obcego Czecha pozdrawiać?
I do that whenever I play Chess....
@@SAMAYDOSTDAR that just is how it works though
Admiral Cunningham: "It takes the Navy three years to build a ship. It will take three hundred years to build a new tradition."
China: "Hold my Shipyards...."
I mean, sure you have the ships but the tradition implies navy doctrine and crew training. Both of which China will want to avoid testing in a hot war
And only three hours to lose a Navy…
As always, thanks!
Actually US can also counter China missile umbrella by deploying missiles on its allies. Besides south Korea japan and taiwan can already cripple China's carrier strike group because of its proximity on the mainland. Those aircraft carriers is vulnerable to attacks form land base anti ship missiles or aircraft. A militarized japan will offset the balance of power in Asia.
South Korea cant do anything..It has to deal with NK indefinately
Won't that lead to another cuban missile crisis?...
@@goldenspoon87 I don’t think they would see it that way more like stopping Chinese domination
@@denisrichu5697 they can't even feed their own people in their 3 Million boasted army I expect 1/3 of that will desert
@@gavsch5690, true. Especially the Japanese. They see the Chinese attempts at controlling the South China Sea as a direct threat to their country's survival, since they rely mostly on imports that pass through those sea lanes.
Andaman Islands are going to be crucial for India.👍
yes
Great video. Thank you for uploading!
The US Navy has experience with global maritime operations unlike the Chinese Navy. Carrier aviation, blue-water deployments and underway replenishments allows the US to project their naval power beyond their coastal zones.
India is actively trying to step up its naval game as you said. However China uses the tactic of distraction with its aggression on the Himalayan border. This forces Indian government to spend more on the land army, pulling away resources from Navy upgradation. However this only means that Naval development slows down a bit.
Oh please, Indias land army is for Pakistan and pakistan only. The largest mountain range on earth seperates the two most populaous and nuclear armed states. No wars going to happen up there, get real.
@@liammarra4003 um have you been under a rock for the last year? Heard of Galwan clashes? The almost year long tension has possibly damaged Indo-China relations to 1962 levels (another WAR that took place if you didn't know).
@@liammarra4003 Similar argument could be made China to USA, Russia to Europe but that doesn't stop those from arming.
@ಸೈರಾಜ್ India has to build up its economy. If she chooses to spend to much on the miltary, India will never be able to do actually develop it. Without a strong ecnomy China will always be better armed or be able to get another massive advantage.
@jiene m m.economictimes.com/news/defence/indian-navy-aiming-at-200-ship-fleet-by-2027/articleshow/48072917.cms
*_WWIII is set boys let's go!! let's finish the trilogy with a banger am I right?_*
1st round of drinks in hell is from me
China is gonna win… USA at this point in history, is a shithole… a falling empire…
We want only city destroying bombs to fall..not the small kinds or gunfight..drop them nuclear bombs! My body is ready 😆
@@8.4.8.2 Our “falling empire” has crushed countless others and we will show China just why no force in the past 60 years has successfully engaged the U.S in conventional warfare.
@@michaelterrell5061 USA is shit now, China will be the future if the world don't get things right.
I like your b-roll of the globe with China at the middle and bottom. That's how they view the world......
Quality over Quantity especially when it’s so close.
The strength of PLA military force in the South China Sea lies not in number of ships, tonnage or other, but on quiet submarines that can take down ships and an anti satellite system that can take down communication satellites, without which the US navy is practically blind.
You should look up numbers of attack submarines before you type a comment. China has 6. Taiwan has 4, with 8 more under construction.
Seeing as they have pissed off their neighbors, and a good portion of the rest of the World, they are going to need it.
As long as china doesn't invade and sanction countries around the world like america does then they'll always be more liked than the US
I got bad news for you buddy, the US is still considered the biggest threat to democracy. Despite everything that has happened.
Can you imagine the second or maybe the first economy country in next few years without military power? I think it’s a match base on the economy
Yup, check it out...
From 2014-2022 (8 years time), 8 Type 055 14,000 ton mega-destroyers have already been built (3 commissioned, 5 in sea trials), another batch of 8 under construction. The first Type 055 started construction in 2014 (No, that's not a typo. EIGHT YEARS ago) and now ........pause . ....Along with the 8 new massive multi-dimensional stealth capital warships being commissioned to the Chinese Navy also includes but not limited to China's 2nd aircraft carrier the 75,000 ton Type-002 Shandong which was also launched/commissioned into active duty within the same time frame, along with 2 more 7,500 ton Type 052C destroyers (predecessor of the Type 052D), twenty two (yes....22) 8,500 ton Type 052D destroyers (already one of the most capable modern warships capable of hot/cold launches--unlike the other modern systems that can only do hot or cold), seventeen (17) 4000 tons Type-54A frigates, seventy one (71) 1,500 ton Type 056 corvettes, three 45,000 ton Type-075 LHD ("mini assault carriers"), 5 Type-071 25,000 ton LPD (landing platform dock or amphibious platform dock), eight (8) 7000 ton Type 815A/G "intel gathering/long-range signal & reconnaissance surveillance/monitoring "ships", two 11,000 ton Type-94A Jin-class SSBN (able to launch ballistic nuclear tipped missiles anywhere in the world), the Type 094-class sub has 12 silos on its back, with each JL-2 missile carrying up to 8 MIRVS (Multiple Independent Reentry Vehicles, independently hitting their specific targets) and three (3) 7000 ton Type 093 Shang-class SSN (nuclear power attacked sub) being commissioned into the Chinese Navy (PLAN) all in 8 years...and from recent satellite imagery of Chinese military shipping docks (just outside, not inside those humongous ship building factories), there doesn't seem to be any slow down.
But the real baddies under construction/being fitted out are the new 20,000 ton Tang-class SSBN, with 24 silos on its back, with the new JL-3's being able to fire SLBM (submarine launched ballistic missiles), cruise missiles, anti-ship/air/satellite missiles) and each warhead carrying 10-12 MIRV, the 85,000-100,000 ton Type 003, China's first flattop carrier with EMALS. The 4th, or starting from the 5th, Chinese carriers would be the orcas of the oceans, 130,000-150,000 tons, AI assisted/operated, highly advanced and sophisticated and can carry 120+ aircrafts. These baddies are going to come online by 2030.
That's in 8 years.
The other thing not mentioned is how the PLA has shifted from being ground force-centric to being more naval and air force-centric. The shift to theater commands is reflective of that, as is the relative decrease in military spending for ground forces (the naval and air budgets have increased by a far greater %).
Chinese warships do lag behind American ones in terms of technology. They also don't have the same naval traditions - and for their aircraft carriers, they have to start from scratch (doctrine-wise). But traditions have to start somewhere, and starting today is better than tomorrow for the Chinese.
This doesn't mean US military planners can just write them off. For one, the PLAN having Aegis-type destroyers 'in 10 years' was considered back in the early to late 2000s as being ludicrous. The PLAN has dozens of those in service today. Given Chinese attitudes to equipment procurement (they don't put things in service if they're unsure of how good it is, meaning little experimental tech but a lot of standardized ones that they know will work), we can't assume they'll be all that inferior in terms of capability compared to the USN's either.
The next big development would be that of a CATOBAR system for the new aircraft carriers. It's unlikely that the PLAN will continue using ski-jump type carriers if they can help it. This one's also probably a matter of when, not if.
What's interesting is if India will actually focus on naval expansion, having seen what China is doing. It's the smart move - control of one's backyard is a paramount priority for aspiring great powers - but only if they can develop their economic base to fund it. If they manage to do that, the global balance of power will have definitely shifted away from the west. India's goals align with those of the US and Western Europe for the most part right now, but a developed India will be competing with the West (and China) for resource access and influence.
What will be Australia's and Japan's reaction to this?
Maybe build stronger navies?
Here in Australia the left side of politics and Chinese propaganda are indistinguishable. This is preventing the government from implementing the necessary strategies for our defence as they are too concerned with the associated political fallout. History will be very unkind to a country so sparsely populated and that has such a large store of natural resources and at the same time is so ill prepared to defend itself against such a large authoritarian neighbour in close proximity.
@@blimpusa Are you kidding me? Typical bs argument. "It's the lefts fault". The Liberals control a majority of the parliament, as they have done for nearly a decade. If they can and do whatever they want. They have all the power.
What would you have our govt. even do? Try to outspend China on military spending? Are you that naive?
@@fatalshore5068 Look at how Zhao Lijian labelled immigration detention centres “concentration camps”. For the last 20 years, this has been standard practice for refugee advocates and other opponents of conservative governments, and in doing so has provided the CCP with an abundance of material to demonise Australia. How can we criticise China's Xinjiang concentration camps if we're doing the same thing here, right? This nonsense has been repeated with "white supremacy" claims, ADF war crimes accusations, "aboriginal genocide" etc etc.
@@blimpusa that's why it's so important to not do it
Great content. As always. Cheers...
3:38 "secured technology transfers" lmao
Winnie The Pooh is Cranky!
You should have mentioned the Andaman and Nicobar islands that sit at the entrance of the straits of Malacca on the indian ocean side. India controls those islands and can easily block chinese commercial and military maritime assets if the Indians choose to militarize those islands.
didn't he make a video on this already?
@@pierresihite8854 yeah. Smells like a new viewer.
why do you think china is building navy and carriers?... India navy is a joke
@@mikael5938 india already has an aircraft carrier and building 2 more...guess how.many china has ...? 0
So jokes on you loser...
And anyways...A&N islands, if militarised will act as 100s of unsinkable aircraft carriers...which will block China's main revenue source...that's what makes china knees shake.
@@shadowslayer4578 China has 2 carriers tho?
Very good strategic analysis of naval power in the years ahead.
Washington had better pay attention to this information and plan accordingly.
... Washington has better analyts than TH-camrs.
India is also uping the game aganist Chinese. India started building Submarines, Destroyers and Aircraft Carriers. Yes, scale is not yet compaireable to Chinese one but will increase overtime.
The CCP are gonna be the Covenant from Halo.
So does that make Taiwan the real world equivalent if Reach?
and the US every other evil empire from every game ever
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Philippines and Taiwan gets surrounded by Chinese naval power : sweats nervously*
Next report China makes "Greater East Asia Co-prosperity Sphere"
Japan, Taiwan, Philippines and other Asian countries: Chuckles* I'm in Danger...
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Good imagination
Japan is starting to rebuild its military into a high tech (heavy knowledge sharing with their main US ally) , potent force. With Japan, USA, Australia, and India combined, itll be difficult for China to assert itself going forward. The Philippines will be MORE protected by US ships going forward, so don't worry too much. Theres a defense agreement being negotiated between Manila and Washington. When signed, Filipino ships will be empowered to fend off Chinese armed-maritime flag planter vessels.
@@Chironex_Fleckeri Yeah it just sounds like the arms race power balance of countries in Europe before WW1 and WW2 but I do hope there will be a peaceful transition of power just like Thucydides trap of "Pax Britannica" to "Pax Americana"
@@carlrodalegrado4104 The transition from Pax Britannica to Pax Americana was WW2.
Great China, great people amd great navy. Hope China's Naval power by 2035. Sooner the bettter.
The last time China fought a naval battle all ships had sails.
THEY JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE CAN LEARN!!!
@@duanerice-mason2115 , The Chinese navy is not a threat to anyone. How many aircraft carriers does it have? Two aircraft carriers don’t threaten anyone. How many submarines? If China tried to invade Taiwan it would fairly miserably. Building cheap ships doesn’t win naval battles.
@@chairde Spending more doesn't mean you will win. - Look at Communist Vietnam, who won against the US with their guerilla warfare, or somalian pirates, who take over big expensive ships with their small boats
@@za7v9ier Btw the same country that defeated the US not only defeated China again in another war, but the US and Vietnam these days are considered allies and is one of the closet Asian allies of the US despite the past atrocities.
@@chairde
U didnt grasp the bigger picture dia ya?.
I bet didnt watch the vid🤭
The existence of Taiwan benefits PRC more than smouldering heap. China will NOT invade Taiwan unless Taiwan Taiwan goverment is soo dump harrasing to its pro unity citizens/political opposition .
Wjy u keep saying China wants to invade Taiwan?.
I'm possibly as liberal as they get, and I would never advocate for reduced navy spending. This is why.
Liberty must be guarded and actively renewed continually. I used to think I the D's were liberal but they are more like the CCP and are corporatist not liberal. Because I'm a liberal in the true sense I tend towards the libertarian side of American politics.
Some of the best most factually based content a lot of channels either over hype events or base it on emotions
Yes , you are so right
Good analysis ❤️great job