This has the same large cores (A72) and roughly the same performance as a Raspberry Pi 4. They'll need to price it pretty aggressively if they want a large market for it. Maybe they have a special niche of customers that it was designed for.
The SoC is a lot cheaper than RK3588, so the boars are cheaper too. Mekotronics aren't the best priced boards and they do have customers they design these for. There are others that have RK3576 boards. Like Radxa's Rock5C. They said it would start at 35euro but it's 45euro for 2GB version. Still have to install Linux. I'll learn a lot more about the CPU cores there. Cheers.
Indeed, but assuming it’s under $65 for 8gb model I’ll be quite interested/pleased, as it’d compete with the RK3582 2/4GB for value, allowing a tinkerer to optimize for either memory or compute performance at that price point. The RK3399 was a great value little board, very well supported on Linux, and appearance in Android and ChromeOS devices made them much more hackable.
I wonder if some phones with some good snapdragon chips are better than rockchip and stuff, since the orange pi 5 plus can only run andoid 4 or smthng (afaik)
I show in the bench results that these Rockchip devices can't match anything in a smart phone. It is a pitty. But smart phone's sell more for a higher price. So the SoCs cost a lot more and are often missing some nice features Rockchip does have. Like PCIe/NVMe/SATA... There are Mediatech SoC's now that should be more powerful. RK3588 should be great for Android, just OPi is an awful company in software support.
@@NicoDsSBCs I've been reading a lot of these boxes are loaded with Malware. How much of this is true? There is a new h96 box using this soc. Would you know anything about it?
@@whitenuttergoku7310 Amlogic used to make more powerful SoC but these days Rockchip has taken over with RK3588 and RK3576. Nothing Amlogic has to offer can truly compete with it. A311D2 is closest but has terrible software support. Bad legacy kernel without GPU or VPU drivers.
From all that I have seen from the SOC, this will become popular in TV boxes, where is seems to be partly geared towards media consumption. The GPU clearly tells us that whilst we still have the interminable wait for the power of the RK3588 to be realised, using an older GPU in the RK3576 that will have better Linux support will fill in a gap It may even turn out to be an up front but subtle admission that the RK3588 is another RK3399 lemon. Good to see Android 14, also missing (13 too) on RK3588. Armbian and Ubuntu will likely see early stable and more fully functional releases.
Collabora released Panthor, the OpenGL driver for the RK3588 GPU. I have seen mixed reports about it, but it's all brand new. I think Collabora also said they are working on Vulkan. There is also an open-source driver for the NPU of the RK3588, so it doesn't look like the RK3588 will turn out to be a lemon.
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This has the same large cores (A72) and roughly the same performance as a Raspberry Pi 4. They'll need to price it pretty aggressively if they want a large market for it. Maybe they have a special niche of customers that it was designed for.
The SoC is a lot cheaper than RK3588, so the boars are cheaper too. Mekotronics aren't the best priced boards and they do have customers they design these for.
There are others that have RK3576 boards. Like Radxa's Rock5C. They said it would start at 35euro but it's 45euro for 2GB version.
Still have to install Linux. I'll learn a lot more about the CPU cores there. Cheers.
Indeed, but assuming it’s under $65 for 8gb model I’ll be quite interested/pleased, as it’d compete with the RK3582 2/4GB for value, allowing a tinkerer to optimize for either memory or compute performance at that price point. The RK3399 was a great value little board, very well supported on Linux, and appearance in Android and ChromeOS devices made them much more hackable.
I wonder if some phones with some good snapdragon chips are better than rockchip and stuff, since the orange pi 5 plus can only run andoid 4 or smthng (afaik)
I show in the bench results that these Rockchip devices can't match anything in a smart phone.
It is a pitty. But smart phone's sell more for a higher price. So the SoCs cost a lot more and are often missing some nice features Rockchip does have. Like PCIe/NVMe/SATA...
There are Mediatech SoC's now that should be more powerful.
RK3588 should be great for Android, just OPi is an awful company in software support.
@@NicoDsSBCs I've been reading a lot of these boxes are loaded with Malware. How much of this is true?
There is a new h96 box using this soc. Would you know anything about it?
Amlogic is said to be a better cpu than Rockchip
@@whitenuttergoku7310 Amlogic used to make more powerful SoC but these days Rockchip has taken over with RK3588 and RK3576. Nothing Amlogic has to offer can truly compete with it. A311D2 is closest but has terrible software support. Bad legacy kernel without GPU or VPU drivers.
I run my OPi5+ with android 12...
How to get the display port working?
Have you seen any efficient arm board that supports opnsense and is designed to be a opnsense firewall only?
Not that I know. There are the NanoPi R5/R6 with openwrt. But I'm not aware if opnsense works on any.
From all that I have seen from the SOC, this will become popular in TV boxes, where is seems to be partly geared towards media consumption.
The GPU clearly tells us that whilst we still have the interminable wait for the power of the RK3588 to be realised, using an older GPU in the RK3576 that will have better Linux support will fill in a gap
It may even turn out to be an up front but subtle admission that the RK3588 is another RK3399 lemon.
Good to see Android 14, also missing (13 too) on RK3588.
Armbian and Ubuntu will likely see early stable and more fully functional releases.
Collabora released Panthor, the OpenGL driver for the RK3588 GPU. I have seen mixed reports about it, but it's all brand new. I think Collabora also said they are working on Vulkan. There is also an open-source driver for the NPU of the RK3588, so it doesn't look like the RK3588 will turn out to be a lemon.