I'm doing my IFR training in a 172 without any GPS onboard. I could do it in another club plane with advanced avionics, but I want to do it old school. I think it's better. Guys have safely flown in the clouds for nearly 100 years using that technology.
I would check the accident records from 100 years ago before suggesting that they "safely did it for nearly 100 years." In 1970, among airplanes with more than 19 seats: 230 fatal accidents. in 2010s: 49.Among GA, the fatal accidents per 100,000 hours was 1.1 in 2010. And it's 0.84 in 2017. From 2004 to 2009, fatal accidents from Controlled Flight Into Terrain (CFIT) have been reduced by approximately 50 percent. Incidentally, that is the period when glass cockpits were coming into wider use in GA. Accident rates have been going down each decade and it isn't because people are better on NDB approaches. The statistics are very clear that the way they did it for nearly 100 years is nowhere near as safe as it is now.
@@briandear2038 I'm not saying that GPS approaches aren't safer, but the reliability of airplanes has improved as well as pilot competency. However, we have seen a surge of fatal accidents in the past 2 recorded years.
Communicate everything! 1000/500/100 ft to minimums, don’t take your foggles off until your examiner says, say where you are and how you plan to shoot the approach!
Your passion for teaching "The Finer Points" of flying is contagious! Great tips! (Those clips of you flying by the SFO Bay Area make me miss my days flying there, FYI...)
*I love the true passion you have for teaching, and your explaining and editing and speech is all so great, keep up the awesome work! From a pilot with 85 hours, about to dive into IFR, your videos help reassure and guide me through my flight training journey* :) EDIT: here the night before, incredibly nervous, not quite in my car listening, but close(:
When I first saw this I asked here, where can I buy a laminated checklist? Nobody was able to give any suggestions. Here is where to buy one: Buy yourself an inexpensive color printer and make one yourself using your favorite word processing editor and your POH. Then when you are happy with it, take it to FEDEX/KINKOS and laminate it. By the way, laminating machines and lamination pouches are now super-cheap online. I bought one of those too. Alternatively, get a roll of clear packaging tape and use that to "laminate" your self-made full-color checklist card. That's what I originally did, then used it in the airplane a few times, made a few small corrections to the text, then printed a new one and laminated it for real. Been using it for a year now.
Steam gauge IFR check ride in 1980. Aced it without a tablet or G1000. Try doing a holding pattern (unpublished) with a single nav/com from a VOR intersection. I was trained to do this at night .You young pups have it made.
I mean doing an IFR hold at night or day is no different. You can't see outside either way unless you aren't using a hood. As for the single VOR hold, I was trained for that by my instructor even though we do have a GPS. There is no reason to act superior just because tech is changing.
Very helpful video, Jason. I've been flying for over 40 years--so know all about analog.. 🙂 Thank you for your discussion about getting falling into the "black box" rabbit hole. As most of us know, it's way too easy to get sucked into electronic devices asking things of us and being needlessly distracted from what's really important--perhaps not unlike finding oneself down a TH-cam rabbit hole...!
The more avionics I have is what I would have to demonstrate to the Examiner on my checkride so a simple all needle and Ball steam gauge Skyhawk with the Garmin 430
GPS has a lot of holes. Got tired today of trying to figure how to create a few user waypoints on the ground based on VOR. Just let it go for now. Learned how to do it enroute and got gud.
Thank you for sharing that checklist tip, I always have it on my kneeboard and tend to get off my altitude or lose my heading. I’ll be sure to use that next time I fly
On my checkride, the examiner overbooked himself and expected me to rush my exam so he can to his next appointment. Not cool. He was rude and mean. I was in my lsst approach, it's now dark out. I slowed the plane down so not to be behind, I was nervous. He started screaming, "Why are you slowing down! I have to get back! “. (mind you, he arrived 30 minutes late)....not a fun experience being pushed and rushed especially during an IFR CR. I passed but he was upset and almost shaking whilst signing the pass slip. It was hard not to take it personal but now I laugh and remind myself, I'm the PIC. I did a great and safe approach and brought us both home safe as the newest IFR pilot.
Having just started working on my instrument rating, thank you for this. I've already found what it's like to get behind and it's incredibly stressful and uncomfortable.
Hey Jason! I remembered watching this video a while back. I pulled it back up because I’m taking my check ride in a couple hours! I really appreciate all the content you put out! Not sure if you remember from last fall but I was struggling a lot with landings and emailed you. I’m absolutely killing it on crosswinds now. My CFII’s are always happy with my technique every time 😄
Thanks! I usually avoid the "Pass/Ace/Kill your XXX checkride" videos like the plague because they seem full of gamesmanship stuff. This had great perspective to try to maintain in an otherwise stressful situation.
Of course I dont have the full info, but your student’s failure at Watsonville sounds fishy. How does one transition from that hold to the arc for the next approach? Did the examiner just told him to find his own way to the IAF? Many instructors and examiners try to be too creative and make up bogus instructions.
Yeah it sounded kinda weird. If the examiner wasn’t simulating atc and vectoring then the only other situation I can think of would be lost comms but he didn’t mention that.
Slowing the airplane down is a good tip also for us VFR pilots :) Thanks for another great video! Any chance you'll make that mixture video soon? I've just watched a video from mzeroa where he mentions taxiing is a good place to lean, but I'm looking for a few more detailed tips like... should it be leaned immediately after checking that oil pressure is coming up? Should we give the engine a little time to warm up? At the moment it's quite chilly around here and it might be too easy to have the engine stall while trying to lean properly... anyway, it would be great to get a video with some insight on how you manage that red knob :) Cheers!!
What an awesome video Jason! Your presentation is spot on! I hope to be starting my instrument as soon as my uncles plane gets some decent instruments, so your tips are just in time! Keep em coming!
Regarding point #1, what did your student press to head toward a mountain? The other IAF is right in the middle of a valley that the ILS proceeds down, seems pretty safe...
Question:: If I have a G530or 430... as well a the full set of steam gauges and analog radios....then when would I use my GPS during a checkride? I have been told that some DPE like to see a student who knows how to toggle btwn glass and steam. Will the examiner simply ask, "ok lets see you set up an ILS using this fancy dig box"....? (love that jam...sort of a Santana kinda sound)
Regarding the ILS at Salinas: What altitude are you supposed to fly the 107 radial? There‘s no published minimum altitude, and the Watsonville missed approach only goes up to 5000. Still trying to comprehend the details of the US system.
This is months old, but I'm just now seeing it. On that 107 radial, you're going to fly whatever your assigned altitude is since R107 isn't actually part of the approach -- the IAF is where you join the arc. However, in practice, you'll often be at 5500 or sometimes 6000 depending on what ATC has to say. If you are doing it as a VFR practice approach, you could fly it at 5500 since you'll ultimately join the arc at 5500. If you're flying the Watsonville missed, in that hold you'd climb to 5500 -- however, when you leave the hold, the exact altitude is whatever you're assigned by ATC. Basically think of it this way -- going missed from Watsonville gets you to the VOR, however getting to the Salinas ILS via the arc -- you aren't on any approach once you leave the hold, so altitude is at ATC's direction. In practice though, if you're holding at the SNS VOR, you'd most likely join the ILS via the procedure turn on the R132 feeder route -- and that does give you an altitude of 5500. The arc is fun and good practice, but if there isn't any particular reason to do the arc unless ATC needs you to do it for separation reasons. Hope that helps. I've done that exact series of approaches dozens of times -- it's in my backyard practically.
Constructive Suggestion: please watch (and Listen to) Av Web channel, January 2017, during which presentation Paul Bertorelli quotes us Experts as saying: "Good Audio Makes Good Video." [You have Failed your Audio Check Ride. Why? Because you are Not Using either a ClipOn or Lavaliere-style Microphone.]
Thanks for your educational video - I'm a bit confused, which sequence of the 5T's are correct - [ Turn, Time, Twist, Throttle, Talk ] or [ Throttle, Twist, Turn, Time, Talk ] Seems like CFIIs teach it differently? Or am I missing something? - I do a lot of 'Chair Flying"
Turn - turn to the desired heading. You may need to turn to an intercept heading to get on the desired radial or bearing. · Time - start your timer, if needed. · Twist - twist the OBS to the proper setting, either required radial or the reciprocal to eliminate reverse sensing. · Throttle - reduce your airspeed · Talk - if asked to report, do so.
You perform these everytime you cross an instrument fix...GS intercept on ILS, FAF, Hold fix, IAF....etc. it reminds you to TURN to intercept, outbound hold or to next leg, TIME start your timer for FAF or hold timing OB or IB, TWIST your OBS to course to track, THROTTLE...reduce power to hold speed or Final approach speed, TALK....to ATC if requested to let them know FAF inbound, establisjed in hold, procdure turn IB....etc. Hope that helps.
If he had flown 107° for 22 NM, then arc at 22 NM to the localizer and if he didn’t have a DME, then he would had to use the GPS, no? But he would have had time, if at least he headed the right way
For VFR checklist reading or figuring out diverting - anything wrong with autopilot for heading and alt? I know it's good to be able to do WITHOUT AP but any downsides?
A bit late, but a CFI always told me; if you have a tool in your cockpit. Use it. So if i understand your question correctly, absolutely use it if it takes load off of you to achieve another task. Just don't become so reliant on autopilot that it becomes a crutch and leads you into a difficult spot you wouldn't be prepared to overcome.
Great Tips Jason! Quick question, I am a 3 years 500 hr pilot and am studying for my instrument rating. Recommendations please. I have a Cirrus 2016 SR22T and a 79 Cessna 182Q. Both are instruments capable. I see myself using the Cirrus the most for IFR operations in the future. Would you learn and checkride in the 22T and Skylane if you were me?
I would sell the cirrus. Way to many for sale which says a bad thing. Plus, REAL pilots fly without chutes and with so many cirrus accidents and deaths due to wind drift with chute deployed colliding into trees, building and powerlines, its best to learn and prepare for emergencies in aircraft without a chute. I'd sell a cirrus if it was even given to me. Buy its more superior, non-chute twin the Cessna 400 aka TTx. Its roomier, 30 knts quicker on less fuel burn. Goes slightly farther (110 nm), and there are barely a handful for sale at any given time while there's over 60+ cirrus planes always for sale.
I would learn instrument training on steam gauge planes then transition to some glass mixed in with steam. If your am arm chair pilot with low time and not planning to fly for a living, don't waste the time getting an IFR. It is a very dangerous side of flying that requires upmost concentration and focus and know your plane and systems inside and put as good as the back of your hand.
I learned in steam, then did some light G1000 for experience and fly both but steam gets the hands up every time. Glass makes pilots lazy and complacent, a kin to a computer tech not a pilot. Steam gauge and hand flying is where its at and AP for when it gets tough and rough.
@@08turboSS Ouch with the Cirrus comments! I love my Cirrus and it's a safe plane to fly, I feel it's easier to fly than the 182 but I love flying my 182. It has some avionics upgrades including a GTN 750 and a couple of G5's. I am thinking that it would be best to learn and do my checkride in the 182 and then train on the Cirrus with a qualified CSIP after I get my instrument rating. The 182 is slower and more forgiving than the Cirrus. I also believe being instrument rated is a good thing and not dangerous if you know what you are doing. It's just another tool at your disposal. You have to set your personal limits conservatively until you get a lot of time under your belt. You have to know your limits and stick by them.
Hi Jason. How would you answer this question? Any CFII welcome to try to answer. I earned my Instrument Rating in a Twin Engine. Checkride was in a Twin. Can I legally fly IFR in an Airplane Single Engine airplane??? btw... I earned my Private Pilot Certificate in an Airplane Single Engine Land. So the big question is "Can I legally fly IFR in an Airplane Single Engine airplane??? " If not, then what would i need to do so that I can legally fly IFR in an airplane single engine land?
Yes. IFR rating is not restricted like that. It's the same procedures either SEL or MEL, you just use a different category for minimums for faster aircraft.
I’m taking this ride a week from Friday. The algorithm’s timing is on point.
Not getting stuck with something that's not mission critical is solid advice for life in general - and flying. 👍😎
I'm doing my IFR training in a 172 without any GPS onboard. I could do it in another club plane with advanced avionics, but I want to do it old school. I think it's better. Guys have safely flown in the clouds for nearly 100 years using that technology.
I would check the accident records from 100 years ago before suggesting that they "safely did it for nearly 100 years." In 1970, among airplanes with more than 19 seats: 230 fatal accidents. in 2010s: 49.Among GA, the fatal accidents per 100,000 hours was 1.1 in 2010. And it's 0.84 in 2017. From 2004 to 2009, fatal accidents from Controlled Flight Into Terrain (CFIT) have been reduced by approximately 50 percent. Incidentally, that is the period when glass cockpits were coming into wider use in GA. Accident rates have been going down each decade and it isn't because people are better on NDB approaches. The statistics are very clear that the way they did it for nearly 100 years is nowhere near as safe as it is now.
@@briandear2038 I'm not saying that GPS approaches aren't safer, but the reliability of airplanes has improved as well as pilot competency. However, we have seen a surge of fatal accidents in the past 2 recorded years.
I love how you arranged for a plane to fly past just as you were signing off-that must have been tricky to time properly..!
:D
My instrument checkride is next Monday.
Thank you for the tips!
I’m a few hours from my IFR checkride. I love this channel!
Instrument FLT training for fixed wing add-on starts in one week...thank you for supporting aviation students through videos!
I DO have an instrument check ride coming up! This is awesome, thanks!
Communicate everything! 1000/500/100 ft to minimums, don’t take your foggles off until your examiner says, say where you are and how you plan to shoot the approach!
It doesn't have to be complicated... less is way more!
Bangin' tips!
All three tips are bang on. Just on the cusp of flying my ride in Canada and these resonate strongly. Thanks Jason!
Working in CFI-II add-on. Wish i had you as my instructor. Thanks for the tips
Your passion for teaching "The Finer Points" of flying is contagious! Great tips! (Those clips of you flying by the SFO Bay Area make me miss my days flying there, FYI...)
*I love the true passion you have for teaching, and your explaining and editing and speech is all so great, keep up the awesome work! From a pilot with 85 hours, about to dive into IFR, your videos help reassure and guide me through my flight training journey* :) EDIT: here the night before, incredibly nervous, not quite in my car listening, but close(:
Thank you! 🙌
Love that last tip, because it's so simple and obvious: if you need time, slow the airplane down!
Just the tips I needed today. Thank you for keeping it simple.
When I first saw this I asked here, where can I buy a laminated checklist? Nobody was able to give any suggestions. Here is where to buy one: Buy yourself an inexpensive color printer and make one yourself using your favorite word processing editor and your POH. Then when you are happy with it, take it to FEDEX/KINKOS and laminate it. By the way, laminating machines and lamination pouches are now super-cheap online. I bought one of those too. Alternatively, get a roll of clear packaging tape and use that to "laminate" your self-made full-color checklist card. That's what I originally did, then used it in the airplane a few times, made a few small corrections to the text, then printed a new one and laminated it for real. Been using it for a year now.
hi brother , you just described my warrior too, and I'm trying too pass my IFR check ride soon too!! thanks
Steam gauge IFR check ride in 1980. Aced it without a tablet or G1000. Try doing a holding pattern (unpublished) with a single nav/com from a VOR intersection. I was trained to do this at night .You young pups have it made.
I mean doing an IFR hold at night or day is no different. You can't see outside either way unless you aren't using a hood. As for the single VOR hold, I was trained for that by my instructor even though we do have a GPS.
There is no reason to act superior just because tech is changing.
great advise,
great tips,
great videos.
Keep up the good work!
Very helpful video, Jason. I've been flying for over 40 years--so know all about analog.. 🙂
Thank you for your discussion about getting falling into the "black box" rabbit hole. As most of us know, it's way too easy to get sucked into electronic devices asking things of us and being needlessly distracted from what's really important--perhaps not unlike finding oneself down a TH-cam rabbit hole...!
The more avionics I have is what I would have to demonstrate to the Examiner on my checkride so a simple all needle and Ball steam gauge Skyhawk with the Garmin 430
GPS has a lot of holes. Got tired today of trying to figure how to create a few user waypoints on the ground based on VOR. Just let it go for now. Learned how to do it enroute and got gud.
got recommended this on my way to checkride, and passed🎉 thank you
Thank you for sharing that checklist tip, I always have it on my kneeboard and tend to get off my altitude or lose my heading. I’ll be sure to use that next time I fly
On my checkride, the examiner overbooked himself and expected me to rush my exam so he can to his next appointment. Not cool. He was rude and mean. I was in my lsst approach, it's now dark out. I slowed the plane down so not to be behind, I was nervous. He started screaming, "Why are you slowing down! I have to get back! “. (mind you, he arrived 30 minutes late)....not a fun experience being pushed and rushed especially during an IFR CR. I passed but he was upset and almost shaking whilst signing the pass slip. It was hard not to take it personal but now I laugh and remind myself, I'm the PIC. I did a great and safe approach and brought us both home safe as the newest IFR pilot.
Nice tips..gonna use these tips in my next ifr flight in cessna.
Great tips Jason. I did pass the second time, after the gps rabbit 🐰 hole 🕳 the 1st time. 😳😉
Those are all great tips for VFR as well. Thx
Having just started working on my instrument rating, thank you for this. I've already found what it's like to get behind and it's incredibly stressful and uncomfortable.
Just a sim pilot here, but I REALLY enjoyed these tips! Great channel. The video quality (shutter lag?) in the middle was kind of annoying though.
Excellent
Hey Jason! I remembered watching this video a while back. I pulled it back up because I’m taking my check ride in a couple hours!
I really appreciate all the content you put out! Not sure if you remember from last fall but I was struggling a lot with landings and emailed you. I’m absolutely killing it on crosswinds now. My CFII’s are always happy with my technique every time 😄
Thanks for the tips Jason! Have my second time to pass tomorrow. Hopefully the hold won’t screw me up again 😬
Thanks! I usually avoid the "Pass/Ace/Kill your XXX checkride" videos like the plague because they seem full of gamesmanship stuff. This had great perspective to try to maintain in an otherwise stressful situation.
Planning for my practical, great tips!
Good IFR tips!
Thanks!
That is some really awesome information to use, and thanks for all you do in this world of helping aviation enthusiasts such as myself.
KWVI is my home airport! haha nice video man, should help with my upcoming Checkride!
This is awesome info! Thanks Again Jason!
Of course I dont have the full info, but your student’s failure at Watsonville sounds fishy. How does one transition from that hold to the arc for the next approach? Did the examiner just told him to find his own way to the IAF? Many instructors and examiners try to be too creative and make up bogus instructions.
Yeah it sounded kinda weird. If the examiner wasn’t simulating atc and vectoring then the only other situation I can think of would be lost comms but he didn’t mention that.
A Vietnam era pilot friend called the throttles “event levers.” Pull them back, and things don’t happen so fast.
I'm going to pretend you timed the flyby outro perfectly like a Thunderbird performance.
Slowing the airplane down is a good tip also for us VFR pilots :) Thanks for another great video! Any chance you'll make that mixture video soon? I've just watched a video from mzeroa where he mentions taxiing is a good place to lean, but I'm looking for a few more detailed tips like... should it be leaned immediately after checking that oil pressure is coming up? Should we give the engine a little time to warm up? At the moment it's quite chilly around here and it might be too easy to have the engine stall while trying to lean properly... anyway, it would be great to get a video with some insight on how you manage that red knob :) Cheers!!
These tips were great! Thank you for sharing 😃
What an awesome video Jason! Your presentation is spot on! I hope to be starting my instrument as soon as my uncles plane gets some decent instruments, so your tips are just in time! Keep em coming!
If I was out where you are I would differently have you as my Personal CFII
A lot of nice points but having a backup on a ILS or steam gauage is a good idea. Sure hitting the GPS can cause problems
Great video! Hey where can I get that checklist? I fly a 172SP
Regarding point #1, what did your student press to head toward a mountain? The other IAF is right in the middle of a valley that the ILS proceeds down, seems pretty safe...
Great advise. Thanks
Our local check airman likes to fail gps systems on the over reliant.
Jason I'm looking forward to getting my IFR rating soon and I have a ways to go yet before I start flying
Question:: If I have a G530or 430... as well a the full set of steam gauges and analog radios....then when would I use my GPS during a checkride? I have been told that some DPE like to see a student who knows how to toggle btwn glass and steam. Will the examiner simply ask, "ok lets see you set up an ILS using this fancy dig box"....? (love that jam...sort of a Santana kinda sound)
Well you’ll definitely have to do a GPS approach for sure
Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
What a great idea to hold your info next to the instruments. It's a duh moment. Lol
Regarding the ILS at Salinas: What altitude are you supposed to fly the 107 radial? There‘s no published minimum altitude, and the Watsonville missed approach only goes up to 5000. Still trying to comprehend the details of the US system.
This is months old, but I'm just now seeing it. On that 107 radial, you're going to fly whatever your assigned altitude is since R107 isn't actually part of the approach -- the IAF is where you join the arc. However, in practice, you'll often be at 5500 or sometimes 6000 depending on what ATC has to say. If you are doing it as a VFR practice approach, you could fly it at 5500 since you'll ultimately join the arc at 5500. If you're flying the Watsonville missed, in that hold you'd climb to 5500 -- however, when you leave the hold, the exact altitude is whatever you're assigned by ATC. Basically think of it this way -- going missed from Watsonville gets you to the VOR, however getting to the Salinas ILS via the arc -- you aren't on any approach once you leave the hold, so altitude is at ATC's direction. In practice though, if you're holding at the SNS VOR, you'd most likely join the ILS via the procedure turn on the R132 feeder route -- and that does give you an altitude of 5500. The arc is fun and good practice, but if there isn't any particular reason to do the arc unless ATC needs you to do it for separation reasons. Hope that helps. I've done that exact series of approaches dozens of times -- it's in my backyard practically.
Constructive Suggestion: please watch (and Listen to) Av Web channel, January 2017, during which presentation Paul Bertorelli quotes us Experts as saying: "Good Audio Makes Good Video." [You have Failed your Audio Check Ride. Why? Because you are Not Using either a ClipOn or Lavaliere-style Microphone.]
QuidEst Nunc thanks for the feedback. Yes, fixed that since this was published. (Mostly hahaha) 🙌
This belongs alongside “Children of the Magenta.”
Thanks for your educational video - I'm a bit confused, which sequence of the 5T's are correct - [ Turn, Time, Twist, Throttle, Talk ] or [ Throttle, Twist, Turn, Time, Talk ] Seems like CFIIs teach it differently? Or am I missing something? - I do a lot of 'Chair Flying"
I learned it as Time, Turn, Twist, Throttle, Talk. I don't think the order is as important as making sure you do it.
What is that Turn Time Twist Throttle Talk thing about? Never heared that before...
Turn - turn to the desired heading. You may need to turn to an intercept heading to get on the desired radial or bearing.
· Time - start your timer, if needed.
· Twist - twist the OBS to the proper setting, either required radial or the reciprocal to eliminate reverse sensing.
· Throttle - reduce your airspeed
· Talk - if asked to report, do so.
@@djbred18 Thank you. This would have been helpful to know for flyight training haha
You perform these everytime you cross an instrument fix...GS intercept on ILS, FAF, Hold fix, IAF....etc. it reminds you to TURN to intercept, outbound hold or to next leg, TIME start your timer for FAF or hold timing OB or IB, TWIST your OBS to course to track, THROTTLE...reduce power to hold speed or Final approach speed, TALK....to ATC if requested to let them know FAF inbound, establisjed in hold, procdure turn IB....etc. Hope that helps.
If he had flown 107° for 22 NM, then arc at 22 NM to the localizer and if he didn’t have a DME, then he would had to use the GPS, no? But he would have had time, if at least he headed the right way
For VFR checklist reading or figuring out diverting - anything wrong with autopilot for heading and alt? I know it's good to be able to do WITHOUT AP but any downsides?
A bit late, but a CFI always told me; if you have a tool in your cockpit. Use it. So if i understand your question correctly, absolutely use it if it takes load off of you to achieve another task. Just don't become so reliant on autopilot that it becomes a crutch and leads you into a difficult spot you wouldn't be prepared to overcome.
If you have one, sure. But not all planes do.
Great Tips Jason! Quick question, I am a 3 years 500 hr pilot and am studying for my instrument rating. Recommendations please. I have a Cirrus 2016 SR22T and a 79 Cessna 182Q. Both are instruments capable. I see myself using the Cirrus the most for IFR operations in the future. Would you learn and checkride in the 22T and Skylane if you were me?
skylane
I would sell the cirrus. Way to many for sale which says a bad thing. Plus, REAL pilots fly without chutes and with so many cirrus accidents and deaths due to wind drift with chute deployed colliding into trees, building and powerlines, its best to learn and prepare for emergencies in aircraft without a chute. I'd sell a cirrus if it was even given to me. Buy its more superior, non-chute twin the Cessna 400 aka TTx. Its roomier, 30 knts quicker on less fuel burn. Goes slightly farther (110 nm), and there are barely a handful for sale at any given time while there's over 60+ cirrus planes always for sale.
I would learn instrument training on steam gauge planes then transition to some glass mixed in with steam. If your am arm chair pilot with low time and not planning to fly for a living, don't waste the time getting an IFR. It is a very dangerous side of flying that requires upmost concentration and focus and know your plane and systems inside and put as good as the back of your hand.
I learned in steam, then did some light G1000 for experience and fly both but steam gets the hands up every time. Glass makes pilots lazy and complacent, a kin to a computer tech not a pilot. Steam gauge and hand flying is where its at and AP for when it gets tough and rough.
@@08turboSS Ouch with the Cirrus comments! I love my Cirrus and it's a safe plane to fly, I feel it's easier to fly than the 182 but I love flying my 182. It has some avionics upgrades including a GTN 750 and a couple of G5's. I am thinking that it would be best to learn and do my checkride in the 182 and then train on the Cirrus with a qualified CSIP after I get my instrument rating. The 182 is slower and more forgiving than the Cirrus. I also believe being instrument rated is a good thing and not dangerous if you know what you are doing. It's just another tool at your disposal. You have to set your personal limits conservatively until you get a lot of time under your belt. You have to know your limits and stick by them.
Thanks, check ride in 24 hrs ....
Hi Jason. How would you answer this question? Any CFII welcome to try to answer. I earned my Instrument Rating in a Twin Engine. Checkride was in a Twin. Can I legally fly IFR in an Airplane Single Engine airplane??? btw... I earned my Private Pilot Certificate in an Airplane Single Engine Land. So the big question is "Can I legally fly IFR in an Airplane Single Engine airplane??? " If not, then what would i need to do so that I can legally fly IFR in an airplane single engine land?
Yes. IFR rating is not restricted like that. It's the same procedures either SEL or MEL, you just use a different category for minimums for faster aircraft.
The Purple Line Zombies
You mean this isn't Flight Chops :hmm: ?