Shannon may not know shit about hockey, but he sure knows how to call a participation trophy. Loved the I'm 48ft rope comment. LMAO on that one! Panthers 2024 Stanley cup champions. All of Canada, 31 year drought and counting.
@@rafaeloliva6425 I don’t think McDavid winning the Conn Smythe Trophy is similar to a participation trophy. McDavid earned the trophy due to his performance throughout the Stanley Cup Playoffs, 42 assists throughout the playoffs is legendary.
@@rafaeloliva6425 That's stupid. The Conn Smythe is not a "participation trophy." As a Cats fan, did I want to see it go to Bob or Barkov? Of course I did! However, the more time I have to think about it, the more I recognize that McDavid truly did deserve it the moment he dragged Edmonton back in the final series. The Conn Smythe is a playoff MVP trophy--not a Finals MVP trophy--and when your overall playoff performance is being compared to Gretsky, of course you deserve that recognition.
Barkov was outstanding shutting down mcdavid and others. Bobrovsky outstanding when on his game. Not to mention mcdavid had an arguably easier path. Florida went through three elite goalies. Lots to discuss but will evidently not matter. Go Cats Go !!! So happy for them hoisting the cup.
@farqyclassicgamer8936 Correct, it's all just talk! All that Matters is hoisting the Cup. But dude, im not gonna lie and say I'm not enjoying trolling the Sokier's shit talking fans. Go Cats
I was always a casual hockey fan, basically just watched the playoffs. But I'd say I've been inspired to follow the game more closely now. Decided to choose the Panthers as my favorite team after they beat Boston last year, the fact that I've been a big Miami Heat fan since 2007 definitely influenced that decision
I hear ya. But without BOB, FL does not make it back to the Stanley Cup finals no matter how good their D# is. They faced TB, BOS, NY and Edmonton all top scoring teams in the NHL. That is quite a feat
Subban was hot at Florida after the first period. Buddy must’ve had some serious bread on the Panthers winning. It’s cute that Mcdeeznuts got the Conn(solation) Smythe trophy.
When Makar won the Conn Smythe, he wasn't hiding in the dressing room crying about losing. Stop calling McDavid "mcjesus". He ain't good enough to win the cup. They were insanely lucky to push it to game 7.
He lost. He doesn’t owe then him showing up out there. Where 1) he wants to show solidarity with his team and 2) all those retarted panthers fans are gonna boo him. And 3) he’s allowed to be upset he just lost the Stanley cup
Why Barkov beat McDavid..... it's like how Crosby won his cups....he tweeked his game to be more two way oriented. Being fast and having skill can only go so far. Remember in 2009 Evgeni Malkin won the Conn Smythe but the team as a whole sold out after the 2008 loss Geno was the offensive driving seat but the team was two way skilled players... Edmonton faced the Kings... then a third string goalie in Vancouver, then a worn down Dallas team....Florida had to run the gauntlet....a team they historically always lose to in Tampa, then a favorite in the Bruins with an amazing goaltender, then the president trophy winning Rangers...P.K. said it best...its just not Connor's time yet. He'll learn from this like Wayne and Sid did
I can't stand Shannon Sharpe, but he is absolutely right. Mcghost got a participation trophy and did not have the balls to come back on the ice and accept. How many goals did Mcghost have in the entire series. Didn't Rodriguez have more?
I think Connor deserved the Conn Smythe but Bobby deserved it more. I am a Panthers fan so I could be biased but Bob was elite in every game in the playoffs except for a few in the final... but Connor was silent in the same amount of games. I don't care too much though. After all, we have the Cup. Edit: I fully agree with Shannon on this. Pretty much everything he said.
Everyone keeps bagging the ignorance of Shannon and SAS for covering hockey, yet they’re the only one calling out the lipstick with a pig. If McJesus was so great, how did he let his team fall into a 0-3 hole to begin with?
Thanks Shannon You the Best sport Analyst , even tho you don’t Cover NhL you have the knowledge to accept the MVP award was robbed from BoB, no losing team deserves any Trophy
@@rafaeloliva6425 no one on that panel knows a thing about hockey except for PK. ESPN's play by play comentation is horrible! They natter on and on about everything except what's going on on the ice. And, don't get me started about how they put the names of players over their head during power plays. ESPN tries to dumb everything down.
PK reaching Steven A about hockey. Hockey is a team game. What other team sport has line changes every one or two minutes? For the record, NHL players are crazy fit and doing a double shift at the end of 7 games series is asking for the world.
Wasn't Barkov 2nd in the vote? If they had to give it to a winning player, it would have been him. Not everything is about points. McDavid is a fantastic point collector, but there are areas in his game that are lacking.
First take never talk about the NHL or hockey because I know they don’t know half of players except for the guys who are at ESPN who played the game at the highest level
First playoff I've watched in probably 30 years lol . While i did enjoy it to a certain degree , Florida , while very deservedly won their first Cup remind me of the Devils back in the '90's playing that God awful Jaques Lemaire style defence . While it's still very effective way to win to this day , outside of being a Florida fan or a Hockey purist which I ain't anymore I have to say it's boring to watch which is why the NHL will always lag so far behind the other Sports League's in ratings .
Molly is truly the WOAT in terms of mediators or "hosts" or whatever her job is. She does nothing well and is absolutely insufferable. Insane how she keeps that job; I don't think anyone likes her
You contradicted yourself PK!!! You say hockey is a team game, but you say Mcdavid personally dragged Edmonton back from 0-3 down, but then insinuate it was his fault for not being able to take over Game 7?? Role back the tape for Game 4,5,6. The catalysts were Brown, Henrique and Janmark-3rd liners!!
They make some decent points but McDavid was NEEDED, like actually needed, for the last 4 fucking games.... yeah he was gassed by the end of Game 7 and they "needed" him to give more. But if he didn't have to LITERALLY DRAG them ALL to Game 7, McDavid would have had gas in the tank for a final push in the 3rd period of Game 7.... He's been giving it Game 7-100% Effort for the last 4 goddamn games.... he may be SuperHuman but he's still Human. I think McDavid deserved the award.
As a Devils fan and a neutral observer, I am okay with McDavid getting the Conn Smythe. 42 points in the playoffs is insane. However if you want to make the argument that it should have gone to a player on the Panthers like Bobrovsky or Barkov I understand. Lord knows Marty got robbed of the Conn Smythe in 2003.
Not only did McDavid not score in games 6 and 7 - he did jack squat in games 1-3 also! Thats 5 games out of 7!! But oh lets rave about the two games he scored eight points...this is a sort of "superstar bias" where you already have this idea of aplayer, and you will use whatever you can to sustain that belief, while ignoring the evidence against it..Superstar Bias
call me a homer, I still think BOB should have won the Conn Smythe, everyone keeps saying it's your level of play for the ENTIRE playoffs and as the goaltender, BOB's play, along with the rest of the TEAM accomplished winning the CUP, in at least 4 games against the panthers, McDavid didn't live up to the hype
For P.K to explain to SAS, he should have used the example of Jordan and the Bulls losing to the Detroit Pistons in Game 7 of the ECF in 1990..Pistons system was still better than the Bulls in Phil Jackson's first season, but they came back stronger and won it the next year - which is likely what the Oilers are going to do.
P.K is flat out lying when he says McDavid broke playoff record for points. CHeck it out the record is 47 points by Gretzky..Connor is FOURTH with 42....ALso Barkov was the runner up and rightful mvp- so you all are lost. Good on SAS for correcting him...anyway the Conn SMythe is voted on by hockey pool junkies who care only about points and don't really know the game
Why the hell is Stephen a smith talking about hockey? I don’t think you can go from “nobody cares about it this sport,” to talking about whether Connor deserves the Conn Smythe on smythe in just a few short years. Hockey doesn’t need these bag of milk “commentators” to explain the sport
I love how she mentions at the end happened with Florida my pick which won.... like who cares it's hockey you probably picked them when they were up 3-0 already smfh but I'm sorry they really need to get rid of that girl that does the intro on all the sports shows I'm glad Undisputed got rid of it their job is literally pointless not because they're a woman neither just not needed
Bettman’s NHL. Rigged against Canadian teams. Call the game fairly. Horrible officiating last night. Florida should have had 5 penalties. They were getting away with too much.
i don't know about hockey being the ultimate team sport....i think football is..,,,furthermore in football there are so many other players on the field that don't even get much credit.......
Why don’t we give credit to Florida neutralizing McDavid specifically? Had multiple guys on him most of the time and did a great job of taking away his space & speed
PK gave them plenty of credit, he kept saying it wasnt mcdavids time bc they were playing the best defensive team in the league and that florida was better. what are you talking about
But that should have freed up space for someone else, that’s an easy counter. But it didn’t because it was scripted the Panthers would win the Cup to secure the dwindling south Florida market. Business is business.
I "playoff rules", or lack there of, allows teams to do that. Can’t get away with it in the 82-game schedule, but you can the further you go in the playoffs.
Unbelievable!! You just chose NOT to listen the whole segment then complain😅By 8:55 PK Subban is literrally talking about how the Panthers defence squeezed Mc David and shut him down he couldn't find any space and how they deserved the win.
@@fredcarrier4933 It’s not just about the points. Barkov was the best player in a team that just won the Stanley Cup. Florida would not have won the cup without him. But yeah, Barkov came 2nd in the vote.
@@fredcarrier4933 Because Barkov won the Frank J. Selke trophy...awarded to the best forward who excels in the defensive aspects of the game...Barkov like Crosby Bergeron and Datsyuk played a responsible game and influenced on the power play on the penalty kill and five on five.....hockey is about more than just points! That's something sports writers fail to realize. You have to sell out to win it all McDavid like Crosby needs to change his game a bit.
At least they’re trying to talk puck. I respect that. This game is the most complete sport: it’s fast, it’s great TV (only three commercial breaks per period), it has storylines and real emotion. Any sport where the players can chirp the officials and the OFFICIALS CHIRP BACK should appeal to anyone. More people should experience this incredible sport.
I'd always followed the sport casually, basically just tuned in for the playoffs every year because it was interesting and entertaining. But I think I want to follow it more closely now going forward
@@davidriedy5977I followed on the periphery. Growing up in Washington state, I didn’t really have a team to call my own and really invest in. The last three years with the Kraken, I’ve consumed more hockey - and not just Kraken hockey - than ever. I LOVE this sport and the fans are by and large very accommodating of new fans.
I think both Bobrovsky and Barkov were robbed of the Conn Smythe, both of them were deserving of it and I wouldn't have been made with either. However, it is not fair that the loser gets the Conn Smythe. Connor McDavid had a fantastic run, all time great playoffs, but he didn't earn the award and he knew it; that's why he didn't come out to accept it. Even he knew it was robbery.
Yeah, obviously McDavid had an incredible playoff and got the oilers back in the series, but he got shut down when it mattered most and should have only gotten it if the oilers won. It honestly feels like the nhl giving him a consolation prize if anything. Should have been Barkov or Bobrovsky.
Everyones argument for mcdavid winning the conn smythe is him breaking Gretzkys assist record and getting close to his playoff and SCF points record. But no one mentions that in those 1988 playoffs the oilers played only 19 games compared to 25 in 2024, and only 5 finals games for those 13 points. Gretzky was on another level. Bob or Barky deserved this trophy.
In 1988 Gretzky's time NHL 8 goals per game! Today only 6 goals per game NHL! McDavid his assists record much better than Gretzky! If Auston Matthews had played In 1982 he would had scored over 100 goals easily beating Gretzky's 92 goal record easily! Ovechkin ERA only 5,3-6 goals per game NHL! If Ovechkin had played high scoring 1980s he would had scored over 1200 goals easily! And Edmonton Oilers 1980s much better team than Toronto Maple Leafs or Edmonton Oilers 2024!
Would somebody look up how McD did against Barkov when Florida was home team and could put him against McD. He got basically nothing done. Barkov was MVP and it takes nothing away from the greatness of McD
@@rafaeloliva6425 Prerequisite should be you have to watch at least one hockey game in the last 20 years. He doesn't meet that bar. Neither does Shannon Sharpe.
Honestly I disagree with them and he definitely is clueless a bit but SOME OF what they said is true. McDavid did need to be better and even more so Draisaitl in game 7 when it mattered most. Dude had zero goals in the series. Fanned on a one timer that very well could’ve gone in if he got all of it in the game last night. They’re right that they needed to be better . Janmark was , in my opinion, one of their best players last night. That’s a problem considering he’s a 3rd or 4th line player . But yea even though they’re clueless having hockey talked about on these kind of shows is good for the sport. It helps get it to eyes of people that don’t normally watch. We should WANT the sport to grow as hockey fans. I’m glad they have PK on cause atleast he knows what the hell hes talking about
Aleksandr Barkov proved in game 6 & 7 that he's the best player in the world completely shutting down Connor McDavid and making him disappear in the most important moments of the series. That's why he's a Champion and McDavid is ringless wonder. He shouldn't have won the Conn Symthe, He played the Kings & Canucks with a 3rd string goalie. He's a stat padder, I guarantee you he wouldn't have had 30 points in the playoffs if he had to deal with what the Panthers had to in rounds 1-3. Andrei Vasilevskiy, Jeremy Swayman & Igor Shesterkin is what the Panthers had to deal with just to get to the cup. McDavid only saw 1 elite goalie the entire playoffs and that was Bobrosvsky and he was held goaless in 4 of the 7 games. He's an otherwordly talent, but he's the most overrated player in the sport until he wins the Stanley Cup! LETS GO PANTHERS!!!
"In four rounds, Barkov matched up largely against Nikita Kucherov, David Pastrnak, Mika Zibanejad, McDavid and Leon Draisaitl. Those stars had no goals and five assists against Barkov at five-on-five."
People commenting about ESPN coverage being bad are so fucking dumb. I get it yeah its not ESPNs priority but PK on first take with Stephen A and Shannon Shapre talking about the cup final is so good for the game.
NHL on Espn was the best coverage and most dynamique. Hockey fans love to whinne everytime for nothing. Look at they All Stars games...every year complaining, never satisfied
Great comments, McJesus can have a few bad games and win the CONN SMYTHE but, BOB has a few bad games and he's simply kicked to the curb. But, I'll take the Cup, thank you FL Panthers!
Martin Brodeur got screwed out of the Conn Smythe and he had a record number of playoff shutouts 2003, the has shutouts Gm 1, 2 and Gm 7. The Wayne Gretzky of goalies ...got screwed out of a Conn Smythe 2003
Barkov or bob deserved the conn smythe. Mcdavid deserves a conn smythe, but not when he loses to that kind of defensive prowess
No one is mentioning this, why???The Panthers just won their first cup on the same day 31 years their expansion draft.THAT IS AMAZING
@me.felonystrutter2472 Hockey isn’t really their thing. At least they’re covering it.
I am not sure what you mean by why. But that is cool fact.
Wow, that's pretty cool !
Let's Go Panthers !!!!!
I was born in 1985, and Paul Maurice won his first Stanly cup after a total career winning game record of 1985 games
Three black men talking hockey on ESPN. We may never see this again 😂
It's ESPN, they may never let a White man talk about hockey again
And only the exfootball made any sense.
LMAO.
@@shanegrogan6834watch another network
@@shanegrogan6834lol they have white people talk honey but it's in the midday shows when's ratings are lower lol
Yep hockey is for anybody and everybody
PK knows his stuff but to hear Shannon and Stephen A talk hockey is kind of hilarious😂😂😂😂
Shannon may not know shit about hockey, but he sure knows how to call a participation trophy. Loved the I'm 48ft rope comment. LMAO on that one!
Panthers 2024 Stanley cup champions.
All of Canada, 31 year drought and counting.
@@rafaeloliva6425 I don’t think McDavid winning the Conn Smythe Trophy is similar to a participation trophy. McDavid earned the trophy due to his performance throughout the Stanley Cup Playoffs, 42 assists throughout the playoffs is legendary.
@@rafaeloliva6425 That's stupid. The Conn Smythe is not a "participation trophy."
As a Cats fan, did I want to see it go to Bob or Barkov? Of course I did! However, the more time I have to think about it, the more I recognize that McDavid truly did deserve it the moment he dragged Edmonton back in the final series.
The Conn Smythe is a playoff MVP trophy--not a Finals MVP trophy--and when your overall playoff performance is being compared to Gretsky, of course you deserve that recognition.
Shannon had good points though. Bobrovsky stood on his head when he needed to, the entire playoff run.
@Thatsstraightup
Losers don't deserve trophies, when your a no-show for the biggest game of your life.
Barkov was outstanding shutting down mcdavid and others. Bobrovsky outstanding when on his game. Not to mention mcdavid had an arguably easier path. Florida went through three elite goalies. Lots to discuss but will evidently not matter. Go Cats Go !!! So happy for them hoisting the cup.
@farqyclassicgamer8936
Correct, it's all just talk!
All that Matters is hoisting the Cup.
But dude, im not gonna lie and say I'm not enjoying trolling the Sokier's shit talking fans.
Go Cats
I really hope hockey fans were made after this series. Hockey is so underrated in the stars.
I was always a casual hockey fan, basically just watched the playoffs. But I'd say I've been inspired to follow the game more closely now. Decided to choose the Panthers as my favorite team after they beat Boston last year, the fact that I've been a big Miami Heat fan since 2007 definitely influenced that decision
It's funny that they talk about Bobrovsky vs McDavid when the actual runner-up and rightful MVP was Barkov.
I hear ya. But without BOB, FL does not make it back to the Stanley Cup finals no matter how good their D# is.
They faced TB, BOS, NY and Edmonton all top scoring teams in the NHL. That is quite a feat
@Julio-v1c
Julio that's spot on!!
The rightful mvp was Mcdavid, and this is because Americans don’t understand hockey at a deep level. Barkov wasn’t even a close 2nd
I just don't agree. Bob was the key in game 1,2, and 7. And he was essential in the Biston and Rnagers series
@@JulianFranco-d7oBobrovsky was huge. Skinner was useless..
Subban was hot at Florida after the first period. Buddy must’ve had some serious bread on the Panthers winning. It’s cute that Mcdeeznuts got the Conn(solation) Smythe trophy.
He did break history so he deserved it but don’t sit over here acting like that was easy lol
All we heard all series was “Edmonton needs to do this and Edmonton needs to do that, Edmonton, Edmonton,”
Nah subban wanted the oilers to win lol stop the cap
When Makar won the Conn Smythe, he wasn't hiding in the dressing room crying about losing.
Stop calling McDavid "mcjesus". He ain't good enough to win the cup. They were insanely lucky to push it to game 7.
Because makar won the cup 😅
Brain dead comment in the first half
He lost. He doesn’t owe then him showing up out there. Where 1) he wants to show solidarity with his team and 2) all those retarted panthers fans are gonna boo him. And 3) he’s allowed to be upset he just lost the Stanley cup
Spot on Mcjesus my ass.
Last night Conner McDavid was McLoser....
Why Barkov beat McDavid..... it's like how Crosby won his cups....he tweeked his game to be more two way oriented. Being fast and having skill can only go so far. Remember in 2009 Evgeni Malkin won the Conn Smythe but the team as a whole sold out after the 2008 loss Geno was the offensive driving seat but the team was two way skilled players... Edmonton faced the Kings... then a third string goalie in Vancouver, then a worn down Dallas team....Florida had to run the gauntlet....a team they historically always lose to in Tampa, then a favorite in the Bruins with an amazing goaltender, then the president trophy winning Rangers...P.K. said it best...its just not Connor's time yet. He'll learn from this like Wayne and Sid did
Keep killing it PK!!!
I can't stand Shannon Sharpe, but he is absolutely right. Mcghost got a participation trophy and did not have the balls to come back on the ice and accept. How many goals did Mcghost have in the entire series. Didn't Rodriguez have more?
He only had 2 goals Mx Rodriguez had a better point % than Mcdavid too i believe
PK Subban may have won a Norris but he's found his calling here.
I think Connor deserved the Conn Smythe but Bobby deserved it more. I am a Panthers fan so I could be biased but Bob was elite in every game in the playoffs except for a few in the final... but Connor was silent in the same amount of games. I don't care too much though. After all, we have the Cup.
Edit: I fully agree with Shannon on this. Pretty much everything he said.
Man, every time Mcghost looks at his participation trophy must feel like a kick in the balls.
Everyone keeps bagging the ignorance of Shannon and SAS for covering hockey, yet they’re the only one calling out the lipstick with a pig. If McJesus was so great, how did he let his team fall into a 0-3 hole to begin with?
As for me, Datsyk was much better as McDonald's😅😅
PK is on point! no pun
I thought Bobrovsky or Barkov must have been awarded an MVP Conn Smythe trophy.
“All the cups are in the US”…..it’s called the National Hockey League 😂
Nhl, hire these guys. Id love to hear these guys after games all next season. That outro was awesome!!!
McDavid is the Dan Marino of hockey
You can’t ignore a league for their season in its entirety and then be taken serious on any finals commentary.
McJesus couldn’t deliver them when it mattered the most.
Oilers gave up 2 minutes before the final whistle
Thanks Shannon You the Best sport Analyst , even tho you don’t Cover NhL you have the knowledge to accept the MVP award was robbed from BoB, no losing team deserves any Trophy
At least PK knows what he's talking about
I love shannon as a hockey commentator
ESPN is the worst in hockey broadcasting. PK and Messier aside, everyone else involved is absolutely horrible
Spoken like a true Soiler fan boy.
@@rafaeloliva6425 no one on that panel knows a thing about hockey except for PK. ESPN's play by play comentation is horrible! They natter on and on about everything except what's going on on the ice. And, don't get me started about how they put the names of players over their head during power plays. ESPN tries to dumb everything down.
Messier is the worst. Not sure what broadcast in fantasyland you’re watching.
@@JAYYVOO I said "PK and Messier aside". They are the only good parts of what ESPN is trying to do.
Elite Florida Panthers.
PK reaching Steven A about hockey. Hockey is a team game. What other team sport has line changes every one or two minutes? For the record, NHL players are crazy fit and doing a double shift at the end of 7 games series is asking for the world.
I knew Stephen A was going to say something about race at some point in this segment 🤡 GO PANTHERS 🐆
Stephen A. Sharpton.
He’s a r4c3 baiting buff00n.
I agree with Shannon
Wasn't Barkov 2nd in the vote? If they had to give it to a winning player, it would have been him. Not everything is about points. McDavid is a fantastic point collector, but there are areas in his game that are lacking.
First take never talk about the NHL or hockey because I know they don’t know half of players except for the guys who are at ESPN who played the game at the highest level
I think McDavid was just gased out! Please don't take anything away from this great player!
First playoff I've watched in probably 30 years lol . While i did enjoy it to a certain degree , Florida , while very deservedly won their first Cup remind me of the Devils back in the '90's playing that God awful Jaques Lemaire style defence . While it's still very effective way to win to this day , outside of being a Florida fan or a Hockey purist which I ain't anymore I have to say it's boring to watch which is why the NHL will always lag so far behind the other Sports League's in ratings .
Agree with shannon but it is easy to understand why McAlmost won Conn Smyth
This stanley cup final very strange a team up 3 game. Tanks in the next 3 makes me go mmmm
Wooooooooooooo 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆😺😺😺😺😺😺🥅🏒
Bob or Barkov deserved the CS trophy. Hands down.
Fuckin’ A, PK!
Molly is truly the WOAT in terms of mediators or "hosts" or whatever her job is. She does nothing well and is absolutely insufferable. Insane how she keeps that job; I don't think anyone likes her
She pretty. End of story....
Some great retired NHL players to never win a Cup
Marcel Dionne
Gilbert Perreault
Rod Gilbert
Jean Ratelle
Darryl Sittler
Henrik Lundqvist
This dude’s voice is similar to Rob Parker
You contradicted yourself PK!!! You say hockey is a team game, but you say Mcdavid personally dragged Edmonton back from 0-3 down, but then insinuate it was his fault for not being able to take over Game 7?? Role back the tape for Game 4,5,6. The catalysts were Brown, Henrique and Janmark-3rd liners!!
They make some decent points but McDavid was NEEDED, like actually needed, for the last 4 fucking games.... yeah he was gassed by the end of Game 7 and they "needed" him to give more. But if he didn't have to LITERALLY DRAG them ALL to Game 7, McDavid would have had gas in the tank for a final push in the 3rd period of Game 7.... He's been giving it Game 7-100% Effort for the last 4 goddamn games.... he may be SuperHuman but he's still Human. I think McDavid deserved the award.
Losers get participation trophies and fans of losers make lame excuses.
How many goals did he make in the series?
Comparing him to Gretzky was a joke.
As a Devils fan and a neutral observer, I am okay with McDavid getting the Conn Smythe. 42 points in the playoffs is insane. However if you want to make the argument that it should have gone to a player on the Panthers like Bobrovsky or Barkov I understand. Lord knows Marty got robbed of the Conn Smythe in 2003.
PK is the GOAT at Hockey commentary, I could listen to him for hours
What were you watching, dude!!
Shannon shredded him.
Did you not see where Shannon had him studdering?
Just bring up the 2017 Stanley Cup and he'll be crying and making all the excuses he can like all them Nashville fans
Damn why did she roast PK so much…..
Juntós Sunrise
McDavid had 42 pts in these playoffs...hes MVP
Did she call PK "boy"?
Is Shannon reading teleprompter?
With marbles in his mouf………
Not only did McDavid not score in games 6 and 7 - he did jack squat in games 1-3 also! Thats 5 games out of 7!! But oh lets rave about the two games he scored eight points...this is a sort of "superstar bias" where you already have this idea of aplayer, and you will use whatever you can to sustain that belief, while ignoring the evidence against it..Superstar Bias
Shanny,
Didn’t know you had it in you
Or that 🇨🇦 is a big part of that team. 🙄🙄. Still really happy to see the team win!!
Don’t worry Stephen A because Tua, Tyreek, Waddle & McDaniels are bringing the Lombardi to South Beach in 2024/25 😈🐬🆙
call me a homer, I still think BOB should have won the Conn Smythe, everyone keeps saying it's your level of play for the ENTIRE playoffs and as the goaltender, BOB's play, along with the rest of the TEAM accomplished winning the CUP, in at least 4 games against the panthers, McDavid didn't live up to the hype
For P.K to explain to SAS, he should have used the example of Jordan and the Bulls losing to the Detroit Pistons in Game 7 of the ECF in 1990..Pistons system was still better than the Bulls in Phil Jackson's first season, but they came back stronger and won it the next year - which is likely what the Oilers are going to do.
P.K is flat out lying when he says McDavid broke playoff record for points. CHeck it out the record is 47 points by Gretzky..Connor is FOURTH with 42....ALso Barkov was the runner up and rightful mvp- so you all are lost. Good on SAS for correcting him...anyway the Conn SMythe is voted on by hockey pool junkies who care only about points and don't really know the game
Well at least McDavid got the conn smyth 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣☠️☠️☠️☠️🐆🐆🐆🐆🐆💯💯💯💯💯💯
Why the hell is Stephen a smith talking about hockey? I don’t think you can go from “nobody cares about it this sport,” to talking about whether Connor deserves the Conn Smythe on smythe in just a few short years. Hockey doesn’t need these bag of milk “commentators” to explain the sport
I love how she mentions at the end happened with Florida my pick which won.... like who cares it's hockey you probably picked them when they were up 3-0 already smfh but I'm sorry they really need to get rid of that girl that does the intro on all the sports shows I'm glad Undisputed got rid of it their job is literally pointless not because they're a woman neither just not needed
How does the Panthers winning the Stanley Cup affect LeBron's Legacy?
LBJ didn't get a single point during the entire Stanley cup playoffs. He is washed.
Thank you shannon couldn't have said it better myself. As well as Casy knock off the Jesus stuff that's blasphemy!!!
These people have no clue what they are talking about beside pk
and PK is a fake. Blowing MCDavid until game 7 .
Please no more subban
Nobody wants to listen to PK. The broadcast was terrible last night. Espn sucks.
I don’t know who the guy in the pink suit is, but why is he screaming so much?
Yea you cant know him because Shannon Sharpe ALWAYS yells😂😂💕
All of these people are so biased. Can't take them seriously.
OMG Stop yelling!!! And put someone else that knows hockey besides PK. I’m out!
Bettman’s NHL. Rigged against Canadian teams. Call the game fairly. Horrible officiating last night. Florida should have had 5 penalties. They were getting away with too much.
@@Kwolf1 wanna bottle or pacifier? 🍼👶 🇨🇦
i don't know about hockey being the ultimate team sport....i think football is..,,,furthermore in football there are so many other players on the field that don't even get much credit.......
With a nickname mc-jesus! He better show up on the biggest stage in hockey 👎🏽 … drisitol just flat out sucked…
Hey Steven A…. Who cares about coaches game 7 record. Look at his entire history. Most losses as a head coach in history
he has won more than u .
You haven’t won anything, your comment is garbage 😂
im gay
@@nikm7845 nope, 4 cups, ss, QT, ect
But also a heckuva lot of wins to get to finals. Not to mention coming back from 3 down they very nearly made history. Just one goal short.
Why don’t we give credit to Florida neutralizing McDavid specifically? Had multiple guys on him most of the time and did a great job of taking away his space & speed
PK gave them plenty of credit, he kept saying it wasnt mcdavids time bc they were playing the best defensive team in the league and that florida was better. what are you talking about
But that should have freed up space for someone else, that’s an easy counter. But it didn’t because it was scripted the Panthers would win the Cup to secure the dwindling south Florida market. Business is business.
I "playoff rules", or lack there of, allows teams to do that. Can’t get away with it in the 82-game schedule, but you can the further you go in the playoffs.
Unbelievable!! You just chose NOT to listen the whole segment then complain😅By 8:55 PK Subban is literrally talking about how the Panthers defence squeezed Mc David and shut him down he couldn't find any space and how they deserved the win.
Im no Sharpe fan, but he ripped PK a new one. The 48ft rope comment was freaking hysterical.
Clearly hockey is on the back burner for ESPN. Give the finals coverage back to the boys at TNT!!!!
I love SAS and Shannon, but I agree with you. Covering football and basketball is First Take’s department, not hockey 🥴
Emily Kaplan is the real expert when it comes to hockey at ESPN. 🤷🏼♂️
Casuals.. Not one of them mention Barkov as a deserving Conn Smythe winner 🤦♂️
How could you justify giving him the Conn Smythe when he barely had 50% of Mcdavid’s points?
@@fredcarrier4933 It’s not just about the points. Barkov was the best player in a team that just won the Stanley Cup. Florida would not have won the cup without him. But yeah, Barkov came 2nd in the vote.
@@fredcarrier4933 Because Barkov won the Frank J. Selke trophy...awarded to the best forward who excels in the defensive aspects of the game...Barkov like Crosby Bergeron and Datsyuk played a responsible game and influenced on the power play on the penalty kill and five on five.....hockey is about more than just points! That's something sports writers fail to realize. You have to sell out to win it all McDavid like Crosby needs to change his game a bit.
Barkov was the clear MVP of this playoff and it wasn't close
Barkov wasn’t even the best player on his own team
At least they’re trying to talk puck. I respect that. This game is the most complete sport: it’s fast, it’s great TV (only three commercial breaks per period), it has storylines and real emotion. Any sport where the players can chirp the officials and the OFFICIALS CHIRP BACK should appeal to anyone.
More people should experience this incredible sport.
I'd always followed the sport casually, basically just tuned in for the playoffs every year because it was interesting and entertaining. But I think I want to follow it more closely now going forward
@@davidriedy5977I followed on the periphery. Growing up in Washington state, I didn’t really have a team to call my own and really invest in. The last three years with the Kraken, I’ve consumed more hockey - and not just Kraken hockey - than ever. I LOVE this sport and the fans are by and large very accommodating of new fans.
This is on the money
I think both Bobrovsky and Barkov were robbed of the Conn Smythe, both of them were deserving of it and I wouldn't have been made with either. However, it is not fair that the loser gets the Conn Smythe. Connor McDavid had a fantastic run, all time great playoffs, but he didn't earn the award and he knew it; that's why he didn't come out to accept it. Even he knew it was robbery.
Yeah, obviously McDavid had an incredible playoff and got the oilers back in the series, but he got shut down when it mattered most and should have only gotten it if the oilers won. It honestly feels like the nhl giving him a consolation prize if anything. Should have been Barkov or Bobrovsky.
@@clawitzeristhebestpokemon8765 Agreed!
Everyones argument for mcdavid winning the conn smythe is him breaking Gretzkys assist record and getting close to his playoff and SCF points record. But no one mentions that in those 1988 playoffs the oilers played only 19 games compared to 25 in 2024, and only 5 finals games for those 13 points. Gretzky was on another level. Bob or Barky deserved this trophy.
In 1988 Gretzky's time NHL 8 goals per game! Today only 6 goals per game NHL! McDavid his assists record much better than Gretzky! If Auston Matthews had played In 1982 he would had scored over 100 goals easily beating Gretzky's 92 goal record easily! Ovechkin ERA only 5,3-6 goals per game NHL! If Ovechkin had played high scoring 1980s he would had scored over 1200 goals easily! And Edmonton Oilers 1980s much better team than Toronto Maple Leafs or Edmonton Oilers 2024!
Would somebody look up how McD did against Barkov when Florida was home team and could put him against McD. He got basically nothing done. Barkov was MVP and it takes nothing away from the greatness of McD
Why do they let Stephen A talk about hockey?
Dude, I'm thinking the same thing. Stephen A should not be talking hockey.
The only sport he has the slightest clue about is the NBA. Sounds like a jackass every time he opens his pie hole!
@@rafaeloliva6425 not a big SAS fan but at least they're talking about it rather than doing another lebron segment
@@rafaeloliva6425 Prerequisite should be you have to watch at least one hockey game in the last 20 years. He doesn't meet that bar. Neither does Shannon Sharpe.
Honestly I disagree with them and he definitely is clueless a bit but SOME OF what they said is true. McDavid did need to be better and even more so Draisaitl in game 7 when it mattered most. Dude had zero goals in the series. Fanned on a one timer that very well could’ve gone in if he got all of it in the game last night. They’re right that they needed to be better . Janmark was , in my opinion, one of their best players last night. That’s a problem considering he’s a 3rd or 4th line player . But yea even though they’re clueless having hockey talked about on these kind of shows is good for the sport. It helps get it to eyes of people that don’t normally watch. We should WANT the sport to grow as hockey fans. I’m glad they have PK on cause atleast he knows what the hell hes talking about
Connsolation Smythe
Aleksandr Barkov proved in game 6 & 7 that he's the best player in the world completely shutting down Connor McDavid and making him disappear in the most important moments of the series. That's why he's a Champion and McDavid is ringless wonder.
He shouldn't have won the Conn Symthe, He played the Kings & Canucks with a 3rd string goalie. He's a stat padder, I guarantee you he wouldn't have had 30 points in the playoffs if he had to deal with what the Panthers had to in rounds 1-3. Andrei Vasilevskiy, Jeremy Swayman & Igor Shesterkin is what the Panthers had to deal with just to get to the cup. McDavid only saw 1 elite goalie the entire playoffs and that was Bobrosvsky and he was held goaless in 4 of the 7 games.
He's an otherwordly talent, but he's the most overrated player in the sport until he wins the Stanley Cup!
LETS GO PANTHERS!!!
@Truschoolsports
You preach brother!
Barkov, neutralized every " superstar" he faced!
As a forward yes, makar shut down mcdavid in the sweep 2 years ago
"In four rounds, Barkov matched up largely against Nikita Kucherov, David Pastrnak, Mika Zibanejad, McDavid and Leon Draisaitl. Those stars had no goals and five assists against Barkov at five-on-five."
Bobrovsky is the real MVP
There is a simple resolution to this... make a separate trophy for Finals MVP.
People commenting about ESPN coverage being bad are so fucking dumb. I get it yeah its not ESPNs priority but PK on first take with Stephen A and Shannon Shapre talking about the cup final is so good for the game.
Exxxxxactly!
NHL on Espn was the best coverage and most dynamique. Hockey fans love to whinne everytime for nothing. Look at they All Stars games...every year complaining, never satisfied
Great comments, McJesus can have a few bad games and win the CONN SMYTHE but, BOB has a few bad games and he's simply kicked to the curb. But, I'll take the Cup, thank you FL Panthers!
PK is a Mcghost apologist.
Plain and simple.
As great as connor is, he ain't a Sidney Crosby.....Crosby would have finished the deal
What? Hockey on a stephen and shannon show?! What is happening? Pat mcafee has really gotten this hype train going
McDavid shut down in game 1, 6, AND 7. 🤡🤡🤡
That's almost half the freakin series!
This entire segment SCREAMS the silliness and ridiculousness that is ESPN.
McDave didn't do anything 5 of 7 games. Bobby Bobby Bobby!!!
Bobby got blasted in game 4 and ran out of the game.
@happybeingmiserable4668 I filed a McDave missing report with the police station. Heard he's on his way to Edmonton, let me know if you see him.
He scored 0 points in 3 of the 7 games
One game he didn’t even have a single shot on net
Martin Brodeur got screwed out of the Conn Smythe and he had a record number of playoff shutouts 2003, the has shutouts Gm 1, 2 and Gm 7. The Wayne Gretzky of goalies ...got screwed out of a Conn Smythe 2003
Anyone would have shut out Anaheim in those games. Dude was only facing like 15 shots
I respect PK Subban's insights and demeanor as a presenter/sports caster. He called it right throughout the playoffs as well imo . Great job PK!