Cthulhu: Jim and Pruitt go INSANE- Web DM
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 มิ.ย. 2018
- Today we're talking about a genre (and some new systems!) we've gone simply MAD for: the pulp and cosmic horror of CTHULHU! If you want to branch out from D&D style fantasy, this is one to watch!
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Steven M Cunningham nice name drop!
+OML Y'ALL I LIVE 7 MINUTES FROM TRIBE I MFING LOVE Y'ALL
What edition of Warhammer do you play?
"What's poppin' fellow weirdos it's ya boi H P back at it again with the fish people"
I can always imagine the Old One pact Warlock going "Oh god..."
party goes "What's wrong?"
"...my Patron is HERE!? No, no, no, no, no, no...NOPE! NOOOOPE!"
inkblotCrisis : guess the warlock forgot to bring those chocolate frogs that the old one wanted or forgot to boil the kettle and touch their toes?
That's only on the third tuesday though, I think it's because he aligned those ten pebbles on his path that second monday on a sunny day while having berries in his porridge instead of honey.
inkblotCrisis oh right *thumbs up and begins to walk away* wait what day is it?
SANTA! I know him, I know him.
My Fighter with a story-forced Warlock dip has a GOO patron.
Entirely unbidden, I'm RPing him as slowly losing his mind, and turning a bit batty.
Then again, sleeping only 2 hours a night (without Exhaustion, because of a Ring of Sustenance) while already not having a full deck probably isn't very helpful.
I'm so excited to see what'll happen next. It's great fun, seeing as nobody in the party bothered to ask him HOW he was suddenly able to poke them in the brain.
I suppose dying and being brought back to life through a deal with a mystic being like that will make one lose their marbles a bit.
Imagine playing a character that went insane after reading the Necronomicon and your "insane quarks" were things you knew you had to do in order to survive. Crawling backwards through a building infested by horrors is crazy to an outside observer, but it might have been based off of information gleaned from your readings.
Not bad on that chant there Pruitt! Pronunciation was good, but your incomprehensible elder horror accent could use some work.
The problem is that Eastern Incomprehensible Elder Horror is still used as the go-to standard in textbooks and courses, specifically the Arkham dialect. Yes, Arkham is the cosmopolitan center of the Incomprehensible Elder Horror culture, I know; but the rural and lower Incomprehensible Elder Horror dialects are the voice of the real people, the deepest of deep speech.
The native dialect sounds like you say it with a phlegmy cough, punctuated with gurgling Rs
For someone lacking the secondary throat and the two redundant tongues it's pretty passable.
...not that I'd know, of course, hahaha.
This comment train makes me happy on a fundamental level. Good work everyone!
1) it's just kinda nice to see Jim not be the expert in the conversation
2) there should always (well usually) be 1 or 2 survivors per adventure in Call of Cthulhu to string adventures together and create a cohesive narrative (and because some Chaosium modules have sequels)
3) Carcosa was invented before Lovecraft started writing. Lovecraft not only encouraged others to write in his universe he wrote the King in Yellow into his universe cause he loved the collection of short stories so much
An important point about Call of Cthulhu vs. D&D is that end of a successful campaign in the later is like "hey we saved the world but maybe we are sad cause one of us died in doing so" while the former is "one of us is frothing at the mouth permanently in an asylum and the rest are torn asunder and souls devoured to buy humanity 20 more years". I've seen people have problems adjust to that difference.
Me and my friends are organizing a League of Extraordinary Gentlemen Call of Cthulhu campaign.
Jack O Brien love it sir. Love. It. Sir.
RYANBOTexp Nicholas Hurst thanks the idea is to have everyone pick a character and read the material they're from, the poor GM has to read it all.
You guys are the best, bar none! The production is great, sound quality is up there, you can tell this is a genuine friendship with videos on real debates and topics a growing or veteran DM would be interested in. Toss in the live plays on twitch and this is my number 1 watched channel on TH-cam, and if you remove Preacher and My Hero Academia, My most watched thing period. lol
A game I would love to run some time is a standard DND game that is strongly influenced by cosmic horror. But, rather than being insignificant in the scene of things, because of how DND works, the players would be slowly turning into great ones as they level up. Eventually at really high level, I would have they players look in a mirror, only to see that they have become just like that which has been terrorizing the entire world.
Riley Chute great idea. The characters have True Seeing cast on them to reveal the horror!
I have done this, used the variable stat Sanity. The players had to roll that when they witnessed something from the farrealm. But it worked well, you have lean heavy on your on descriptions and tone to make it scary and other worldly. I created my own monsters called Nephroqi.
Noob DM What exactly does this have to do with the original comment?
So, Bloodborne?
Doable for a Lovecraft Lite game. The characters in Forgotten Realms do stand a good chance against the Great Old Ones and their servants.
CoC during the westward expansion is called "Down Darker Trails", "Trail of Cthulhu" is another Lovecraftian game entirely.
I was watching this video at 11:00 at night, and that doorbell at 1:45 scared the ever-loving **** out of me and my dogs! We all thought it was my front door opening!
Another supremely well timed show. My girlfriend and I just bought the books and COC is going to be the first ttrpg game she has run
Peter Jarl and a TPK is expected!
Peter Jarl *grabs Winchester rifle* any chance you need a merc
Not sure why I would be in Austin Texas at any point in my like. but if I ever did I would want to check out Tribe just on the off chance I would meet you guys.
You guys should work with Seth Skorkowsky. He is a really intelligent author and Call of Cthulhu player.
I second this. That would be awesome.
Agreed!
He's the best CoC content creator, deserves more recognition!
I watched some of Seth’s stuff for DnD but not any CoC. It’d be cool since he’s not one of the big names (probably cuz his name is not easy to remember!) but he could use the recognition by these guys.
He is steady creating new and interesting content for Coc, D&D and cyberpunk2020. My boy needs more recognition.
Pruitt is my man, & Jim Davis is my boi
Pruitt is so excited in this one... i love it. Makes me want to play. Thanks Guys.
When you guys were talking about the temporary insanity, and the slow descent into madness and all that, i couldnt help but think of Darkest Dungeon. The way that the game is designed, it revolves around the sanity of your heroes. You have to keep them alive in a fight but all wounds heal when you arrive back in town, but psychological trauma sticks around and must be solved with booze, or prayer, or whatever. Great game, hard, with nice eldritch horror tones
Logan Testa i play that; it's straight lovecraftian
I love all your guys videos, but the ones with the store as the background always feel so special to me. Keep up the great work guys💜
Love your content! I’m learning to dm and you guys are really great sources of inspiration!
Love the video, fellas. If you haven’t read it, Matt Ruff’s ‘Lovecraft Country’ is a wonderful exploration of Eldritch horrors. It contrasts the nameless terrors of the Mythos with the perils of Jim Crow America. It’s really incredible.
Best video amongst a slew of great videos. Top job lads.
Since Jim is a fan of OSR and normal villagers becoming heroes, a future episode on Dungeon Crawl Classics is a must! 😀
MORE! love you guys!
Seeing your videos in my notifications allways makes me smile
Just yesterday I searched about call of Cthulhu and today you upload this, great job as always!
Thank you for another great video guys!!!
Thank you so much for doing a video on CoC. I've only played with one group, for about 10 sessions and it was SO COOL!
For more examples of how unforgiving CoC can be...
We went for 4 sessions with nothing going wrong. We were uncovering a mystery and found out about a 'dimensional shambler' that some old guy had summoned decades ago and had been imbued with eternal un-life and was beneath his house. The 'unlife' bestowed on him came from an amulet he wore. When we came across the guy, he attacked and my character grabbed hold of the amulet and tried to pull it off. I failed that roll and it was the monsters' turn.
The monster got whats called an "imaple" which, if you've played earlier editions of D&D, is like confirming a crit. But an impale is when you get a critical success on a critical success. My throat was immediately torn out and I was dead. Bam. Just like that.
My second character straight up just bled out. We got attacked by some invisible thing and my guy (a martial artist) went to defend a fellow investigator and got carved up bad. Our doctor failed all three First Aid rolls to save my life on our way to the hospital (ironic, huh?) and there goes character number two.
Always remember that in CoC, you're just some human. No powers, no magic, nothin'.
HELLA fun though.
It's cool to see you guys discuss other settings and systems outside of D&D.
Loved the 1st season of True Detective!! Best CoC story without the need for full on Mythos encounter. Thanks for another great episode.
More CoC videos, really like this one!
Really appreciate hearing about these other game systems. Very cool.
I have always preferred Call of Cuthulu like games over traditional D&D.
So much love and respect for covering CoC.
Would love a Warhammer 40k rpg review :D
Check out their Warhammer 40k video, broham
@@huntercormier8139 They haven't done a 40k video.
Technically Fantasy Roleplay I guess. Here ya go:
th-cam.com/video/-boRavsb09g/w-d-xo.html
they did an episode of their podcast about 40k iirc
It's always worth noting when the idea of the uncaring cosmos and evil Outer Gods is brought up that there are also good (mostly) Elder Gods out there too. The Mythos extends way beyond just Nyar and Cthulhu.
Yeah, though that's not Lovecraft's writing.
Sweet! I’ve been hoping this would get talked about.
My favorite game! Thank you for talking about it!!!
I love running call of Cuthulu with one player. Its a figure it out or die one shot but its fun to see how that one person reacts to every situation.
Great review! Love your videos!
Would definitely recommend Charles Stross' books for contemporary CoC ideas.
Haha, I live in New England and can attest that winter lasts from November to March and sometimes lasts even longer. I remember one year there was snow on Halloween that was heavy enough to cause event cancellations. We're pretty used to it though so most people will still drive through the snow and some people walk around in shorts and tees until the temperature drops below freezing. Of course when we go to Texas, it's way too hot.
I played some CoC with friends a couple years ago and I agree that it is a different flavor of roleplaying. I enjoyed that the characters weren't heroes, they're just trying to survive and help mankind live one more day. I think it meant we had to do more critical thinking for puzzle solving and be more aware of our limitations. And it's always interesting to figure out how your character acts when they go insane.
DM for CoC was one of the most memorable moments in some rpg time I ever have it. and true detective is a inspiration for a lovecraftian plot. love it!
Hearing about lots of people playing the game now is really encouraging b/c it was the first pen and paper rpg experience I had. I don't remember exactly when it was, but I know I was less than 10yrs old - which is pretty bizarre given the game. But I absolutely loved it. Our GM and pretty much everyone else in our group other than one of my good friends was either late high school or college aged. So our games were not "kiddy" themed - if you could even really do that with CoC. I was already a big history lover by that point in my life - and yes, I was a weird kid, and so the historical yet recognizable setting had a definite attraction to me. And that is probably one reason I still like it today.
Excellent explanation of game mechanics!
Awesome!
Love that you guys are doing other RPGs rather than D&D! We really need this type of stuff on TH-cam!
It’s funny cuz I feel the opposite about reviewing other RPGs - it’s called Web “DM”, so it should be D&D, right?
HOWEVER
I also love hearing them talk about these other systems for my knowledge and perhaps one day I will play. Call o’ Cthulhu does sound pretty dope.
Well, y'know, it's (most probably) Web DM because of Web MD, so they're sorta doing what Web MD does, but for DMs. And "Web GM" or Keeper, Storyteller, Referee, etc. don't have the same ring to it. :P
I’ve watched many of these web dm vids (love em), and I always thought that was a dm screen on that set...is that the helms deep set from The Two Towers? Pretty sure that was a Christmas gift for me. Best gift ever. I’m sure this has been discussed before but I was super pumped to see it if that’s what it is
You might be the first person to recognize it -- that's what it is!!! From the GW LOTR.
I really look forward to you guys talking about Dark Sun, I've been reading more and more and it's slowly growing on me.
We have discussed Dark Sun on our podcast! Patreon.com/webdm
In rifts a palladium rpg they have characters that are insane to start with. Also they have insanity rolls during the game as well. I love playing insane characters so much. Split personality, phobias, obsessions, they have all kinds. It's crazy hehe. Anyways love Cthulhu thanks guys for another wonderful episode. Hope you both take care and stay sane.
Justin Harris i used to play that as a teenager back in the day. fun game, rules are wack tho
Cant wait to see what game you cover next
My d&d games tend to draw a lot of house rules from the Chaosium system. I like watching my players as well as their characters go insane trying to power game while it causes their characters to lose worse.
The majestic beard of Jim Davis always makes my day
Nodens is that one kid who really tries to avoid squishing bugs.
I lived in Maine for approx. 20 years. I know exactly what Jim is talking about at the end. The best solution is simply to adjust to the weather over time and/or eventually leave (which is what I did). I can remember Obama's inauguration as the morning that I shoveled snow in pajamas and an open jacket.
Good to see I’m not alone on my view on ancient aliens being at least entertaining and a good spark for my imagination machine.
21:45 “you rolled a nein” god dammit pruit that was too clever to spring on me off the cuff
I like seeing the infinity rule books on display in the background. Wish I had time to play it.
That dnd campaign was just a madmans fever dream from losing 13 sanity points.
I’d LOVE on of these on cyberpunk
I think another reason Call of Cthulu is having a moment now because more people are experiencing existential dread and horror than ever before, and the game provides a way to play and deal with that.
I love that you are now covering other RPGs than just d&d! Do Dungeon World!
'They've got humanoids crossed with fish and stuff!'
Morlok so mermaids. Are they half like human park as legs or torso. I'm making a quest where the party has to stop a warlock who's making man made aby
Abysel where it's left hale is fish and the right human
Not sure I'd say H P Lovercaft was a Misanthrope, more like a High-Brow Nerd. Anyway, between reading his work, and R E Howard's, you've got most of what you need a for a wide variety of cool D&D themes and ideas. Great work guys.
Everyone support the game on kickstarter 'Stygian: Reign of the Old Ones'. It's a very cool concept and is based on Lovecrafts works. Very very cool game, check it out if you want a crpg that is related to the Lovecraft universe.
great video, been waiting since the Numenera video to see more RPG overviews! i'd love to hear what you guys think of the recent edition of 7th Sea, given what you were saying about push-your-luck mechanics in CoC
Heya, just wanted to say that I love all of these videos! I'm a tad too lazy to actually kick myself in the rear and get into DMing at the moment, but the information and perspective the two of you provide really benefits me in the area of expanding what roleplaying can really be about. I've always been a fan of having characters that aren't all that great to begin with, and because of your Warhammer video I'm now in a weekly game with a mutated political activist that can spit acid and a woodsman hireling that has by sheer luck cleaved two chaos spawn in half one directly after the other. I've gotta say, I'm loving it so far, and I'm looking forward to gaining actual insanities to reflect just how much hell it's been so far just trying to transport a possessed necklace through the Drakwald.
On a related note, how do you feel about the new 4th Edition coming right around the corner? The new Advantage mechanic leading to some strong offensives from one side of a battle as they keep snowballing seems interesting to me, along with the ability to cancel the enemy advantage through Resilience, whatever role that ends up playing.
Anyhoo, keep doing whatcha do, fellows! I look forward to some potential coverage on the new release sometime in the future.
Awesome!
My idea is you never win against an old god, you can only maybe survive and maybe crash your car into their foot and pretend you had something to do with getting rid of them. Like you said, humanity is like insects to them, most old ones wouldn't care about us or the ones that do only have a morbid curiosity or want to sweep us off their snow globe collection. We can always fight cultists who understand what's going on somewhat better or the occasional Shoggoth (just a lost cosmic amoeba, might even be friendly), but this is not the story where good wins and defeats evil. Madness will always be there, it just woke up really early this time and we only got a taste of it, we'd be better off in complete ignorance than to understand this situation any more and be powerless to affect it.
Heck yeah! The Case of Charles Dexter Ward, Call of Cthulhu, and At the Mountains of Madness are 3 of my all-time favorite stories (Lovecraft or otherwise).
I would substitute The Mound for Charles Dexter Ward.
Been laying CoC for years, glad people are getting more into it!
There's a similar system I found recently called Blood. Blood is like a catch-all horror game. It's built primarily for slasher horror but you can do just about any genre of horror campaign you want. I haven't had the opportunity to play it yet but it looks tremendous. Your Hit Points and your Blood Points are two different things.
Loved the breath of weird air. Can you guys do a video about Dungeon Crawl Classics? No idea if you guys have played it at all, but keeps the weirdness and fantasy combined.
ahaha- and the comments at the end are entirely true, being a Michigander and spending most of the year under grey skies is harrowing!
I think I just realized why I really like you guys, it's because your like the d&d version of Rhett & Link xD
HOW DID YOU GUYS KNOW I WAS CONSIDERING RUNNING A CTHULHU ONE SHOT
"What lies beneath" by Pyromanic games, is an awesome 5e horror campaign. Very creepy, randomly brought together investigators are seduced into a largerworld conspiracy. Very cool.
Holy production values Batman!
I've recently been going through Encounter Roleplays Nameless Horrors series... those fish babies made me laugh so hard.
Some of my biggest inspirations are these pre-historic/ pre human civilizations. Ive spent too many hours researching Lemuria and Hyperborea
Rats in the walls, the red hook horror, also long like the curious case of dexter ward
Look at that! I just ran my first call of Cthulhu game last night and was looking up videos about it and now Web DM's put one out. Speak of Nyarlathotep and Nyarlathotep appears.
The rogue like computer game Cataclysm, Dark Days Ahead is a blast with Migos and other creatures and artifacts. And it’s free.
Great video, as usual! Will you make more race videos? I'm looking into playing a goliath and would love to have your input about them!
Hey, here's something I haven't seen developed well: Player owned property and fortress building.
I know that there's a large expansion coming out for it soonish, but... I want to know the Web DM point of view.
I once dropped a star vampire on a D&D party, it was a long campaign of them trying to figure out what it is and how to kill it and then closing the portal that let it out. worked great would do again but you have to surprise them with things like that. and mind-flyers are basically CoC monsters so anything you want to plop in works out well
There is also something inherently awesome about standing up to a cosmic entity way beyond your comprehension and going "not today".
True Detective draws on the mythos of R.W.Chambers excellent short story cycle The King in Yellow, which also influenced Lovecraft.
Speaking of madness, tell tribe to turn off that damn door alarm! That said, great video. Huge fan keep it up guys!!!!
Two questions: Have you seen the yellow sign? And have you ever role played through character creation?
I start my players as just race and stats, and use stat bonuses, feats, and backgrounds to "level" them over a few game sessions before they get tier first class level. It has worked really well for giving the world feel of being a normal person in a game world b4 becoming a hero
Robert E Howard and HP Lovecraft were contemporaries and corresponded. Some of REH's letters to Lovecraft have been published.
At the very end Jim Davis literally went mad 😆
Thankyou very much. What do you think of doing a show on other RPGs? Cyperpunk 2020 for example?
And Shadowrun!
Can we get a video about the white wolf world of darkness? We NEED a series about rpg systems and games other than d&d!
I actually made a two-shot based of The Shadow over Innsmouth in D&D. It was my first campaign I wrote out my self and it did not run perfectly, but my players were horrified at the end, so I was satisfied.
I’ve been there!!!
Nice eldritch cant, never heard those words spoken better.
But what about the legend of old man Henderson?
First thing I thought off when I saw this video
Merlannin gag me with a spoon Mrs Henderson
Ah yes the legendary backstory of doom
Synth Ovine shhh shhh shhhhhhhhh.....
Let us have this
Synth Ovine That was explained that the DM Waffle was playing with was absolutely garbage and that was the whole reason he created OMH.
H.p. lovecraft and Robert Howard where writing buddies so you see them make nods to each other
That guy wandering randomly in the background lol
Nice Crown Royal bag there Pruitt. I used one of those as my first dice bags! The bag looks good and feels nice. Also did Call of Cthulu drive you to drink in order to keep your sanity?
Deadspace 2 always reminded me of the Cthulhu mythos.
Cosmic horrors and questionable sanity
It sounds like a great opportunity to make a crossover with the X-FILES
Call of Cthulhu in modern settings is basically X-Files: The Game. There's even a sub-setting for the game, called Delta Green, that is all about a secret government organisation based around investigating Mythos activities worldwide.
I do prefer the classic 1920s setting though. Things like mobile phones and the Internet don't exist yet, there are still corners of the world that haven't been explored, and you can justify nearly every male character having military experience because the Great War was only a few years previous.
the door bell freaked me the fuck out
Can’t let this slide, but, I saw what you did there Pruitt. “I went out in a blaze of glory.” Yeah, you could say blowing up a building as a human bomb is that. 👍