@Raymond... 100% and yet there are still 100's of Youtooooooobers who re-hash the same 'Top 10 Do's and Dont's'...info we've all heard 1,000 times before, in the hope of earning money from uploads
When a bargirl says “I like you cause you have good heart”, that means that you’re not handsome man but that you have money(or she thinks that you have money).
This is all true. Find a Thai girl with a regular job. My wife worked her entire career in a BKK hospital as a nurse's aide. Great person, very honest, never been near the bar scene. We now live in southern California. Very happy.
Viewers: A good read is, "Private Dancer". A good friend knew I was going to ASIA for the first time. He gave me the book and told me good luck. I highly recommend the book. You can find a free pdf of it online. Better to buy a paper back. FYI: The book is banned here in Thailand. Informative video. Good luck there in CM.
This is an age-old practice, been going on forever, I will admit that I fell for it back in the 80's when I first visited Thailand, now I just watch the newbies get sucked in by the girls, very entertaining.
This lifestyle is depressing AF. Also, I can’t shake the weirdness of pretending to enjoy spending time with someone who’s clearly trying to con, hustle, and manipulate you.
I gotta admit that I would rather go for a drink at these places with 2 or 3 friends for getting a little loose and having a few laughs, than doing the bar-girl thing. They must think that we have rocks in our heads.... easy prey.
it can mean that they think you're poor or you're actually handsome. edit: or they've seen you multiple times and know you're not fresh off the boat gullible newbie or you have that aura
Man, it’s like the person who invented the video game giving you the cheat codes, and still SOME guys won’t even listen and then say NO SHES DIFFERENT !!! 😂❤ Omg great video , idk how much clearer it can get !?!
Having a full service massage in the privacy and security of your own room. Gent's clubs offer short time in the premises but, you’ll pay for ladies drinks. Still, better than the 3 week millioniare-girlie bars.
Good, I have been going to the Far East for 51 years going back to when Korea was affordable. Just realize a barfine is just short term employment, any employee is just waiting to get off work. You should not read any romantic inferences into the situation. Have fun,but when the fun is done move on and don't try and relive history. It might be hard for some that are young and possessive, but the older you get the more thick skinned you will get to the romance business.
Honestly, I just don’t understand bar girls at all. I’m happy to drink and have conversations with people there but paying for a woman to hang around is just bizarre. You lack any game at all if that’s your only option for attracting women. I’m fine with paying for sex but it’s got to be a straight forward transaction.
Yes got the same thing, thats why I prefer freelance ladies and if I pick one up, I can always go with her to a Bar before going to my Hotel (I take the girls always LT) 😅
i spent a month in thailand. I bought 1 lady drink the entire time. I actually had to chase down a girl and say, hey, you do that lady drink bs? She goes yes, I said just want to do it once. So we did it and she gave me the behind the scenes truth. I was like this is so stupid, paying almost double for flavored water. I said bye to her after a few minutes and she was being bought drinks by multiple guys during that time. Its so damn stupid.
I think that advice applies to people on vacation. I live here and speak Thai. They just have normal conversations with me 😂😂 they don't see me as a customer anymore, and I'll buy them a drink as a friend. people on vacation seem to forget these girls have to pay for basic items such as rent, food, laundry etc etc even before they have made a profit to spend it on whatever their reason is to work in a bar
@glennday7802 might have just put the foot down like I have. Many then ignore you but then the gems are revealed, who you become just good friends with whom to party with etc.
@@TheNicholaas their win, though,, you gotta make it a win win. Not sweat them getting and extra $4.00 out of you. I come from LA, where the 3 beers is $30 USD, and renting a pool table is $20 more. Letting them "win the game" is enjoying 4 buying them 4 playing pool the whole time, for $25 and a beautiful girl playing grab ass, and thrilled with you buying the 4 lady drinks.
im going to Pattaya in february, i have been spending a lot of time on youtube this past week and on google maps, so i can find out as much as i can about it, i have made plans so that i am on day tours every day between 8am to about between 3 and 5 pm, and while the lodge i am staying at is, 1 pretty near to the beach, to the right is a 10 min walk away from walking street and to the left is 10 mins walk away from rock bars where there are no bar girls, a sweet choice of a load of rock bars and cheaper beers :D haha, guess where i will be spending my evening? xD haha
I loved Chiang Mai when I visited in the early 80's, particularly loved all the dirt roads in the middle of the city and around the moat....would go back just for that.
That Chiang Mai disappeared 40 yrs ago mate, it's all paved and been built,pulled down and rebuilt since the early 80s.....but yes, Chiang Mai was great then.
They have lived all their lives dreaming of something better...But all their experience is that they are too unattractive, too old, too this or that to be able to get something better...Then when they can just pay for it...Well, that's where all their money goes chasing the Dream...chasing the Illusion...chasing the Deception...
Yes it’s different in Phuket the girls constantly tell you their take home price. They are also pretty upfront about kids. If you compensate them they will meet you before work. Just need to have a relationship. The only thing that is annoying is buy drinks for their friends unless they are pretty as well but it’s usually someone who has no customers and leeches off the better girls.
@@stevenduncan3392 it isn't proof enough in your case. Regardless of the country before you have sex with anyone it's smart to photograph the ID and take their real phone number. Being sober when doing it the first time is smart.
Long term it's not good for the bar owners if the girls never go. This practice has become so common where I live that tourists stop coming altogether and share their experiences all over the internet.
You are very much correct. I live in the Pattaya area and the restaurant style bars often have more customers going for drinks, just because the bar formula is not as "fun" as it used to be. The ladies seem to be getting more and more lazy over the years. But all should remember, these ladies have a difficult job, long hours, family responsibilities, etc., etc. Just show respect and by all means know the game.
How can he give advise his bird fucked off with his kid lol... He then scammed his viewers out of money because he didn't have insurance for hospital bills.
Best suggestion I can share is if you’re going to a bar fine type establishment call over the mamasan and give her a tip, buy her a drink if she wants one. Then point out the girls your interested in. And ask any question you like and she will be straight forward. Narrow down your choice based on the info given then call that one over. You have already pre-qualified who will go on a bar fine, if she has kids whatever. Buy one drink just for her and ask if you pay her bar fine will she spend the night with you. Save time and money. Good luck.
Great video. I had 10 years in Thailand and had every one of these sed to me. The old saying in the ex pat community is. How do you make a small Fortune in Pattaya? Take a large fortune 😂. I had a massage shop and also own a condo. Yes I lost a fortune. But do not regret a minute of it... the girls do what they do... no hard feelings....
whether they use an excuse or whether they are telling the truth is irrelevant - it's up to the girl what she wants to do, they are not compelled to go with you. Anything else is HT.
You're getting the better end of the deal if you're getting it for free and the mug in the other country is sending 45k per month for his sweet and innocent angel.
its not just the bar girls. I was surrounded by thai women with sponsors. We would hang out, the girls all would talk on their phones with them. Ask for money. Money comes. Next guy calls. They sit around doing nothing all day. Those guys though are doing it with girls in multiple countries. Thai, Philippines, Columbia, Vietnam. They spend a few months at home. Then "date" the girl in that country sponsor them the rest of the year for a 2 month party while together. So its not just bar girls doing this, its all of them.
I respect these entrepreneurs trying to earn a buck doing business in South Wast Asia which is most definitely not a transparent and easy territory to navigate. And on top of that in the bar/nightlife scene!!! That is even more complex and can turn into a nightmare dealing with the local “secret societies”. These type of gigs ain’t easy.
Chinese women do the same thing....ask her out on a date, you think it will just be you and her...but then you get where you are supposed to meet her, she is there with 4-6 of her friends. And she expects you to pay for ALL of them! Nope.....not playing that game.
its quite entertaining to not buy a single lady drink & watch how these bar girls operate. Customers can be as capable liars as they are. I generally tell them i arrived today for 2 weeks and flash a bit of foreign dollar around to get them worked up a bit.
I love it! That's perfect. I do the exact same thing. I'll act like I'm so interested in what's on the TV. Those girls go nuts! Then the old fat girl finally comes to my table to strike up a conversation. I'll say, my TV in the hotel broke so I'm only here to watch TV and drink water.
@@bensteel3944 , if a lady ask you for a drink and you want to buy her one, tell her you won't pay for lady drink but a regular. They understand this and won't charge you for it after.
@@bensteel3944 , and do not go back to your ladys bar, she just wants you to drink there so she can earn from it. I bet you heard she wanted to go see her friend at her own bar or that she wants to go there drinking in the evening.
As usual I have a slightly different take, while of course agreeing with all these examples. But here it goes: if these completely minor detours around the truth matter at all to you, then you're doing it wrong. You really should not be in a bar to find a partner for life; you're there to have a good time for an hour, maybe an evening. At best you end up good friends with someone with the understanding that she knows you're already in a relationship somewhere, and you know how she makes her money and the more she makes from guys the better.
sigh....well, good to know...even if I've heard the story or warning here a zillion times on other channels. I was in Chiang Mai in March and April of this year and had a great time--spent a good deal of time in 'I'm Shy' and this other bar. I'd do my thing during the day and then wife would come join me around 5-6pm. OBviously I'm not gonna try to hook up with any of these girls--I enjoy the flirtation and the titillation of chatting with the girls. I tried to find your bar down the street but never did. I'll return maybe next year.
That being said, there is a language barrier but you can meet normal Thai women. I don’t know why you would ever want to seriously date a bar girl or freelancer
Question. Was in pattaya hook up in a bar. Walking by same bar the next day grab up by another girl from same bar. Anyway walk by bar and went into another bar further down. The two girls I hook up with kinda hung around this bar and on another day the first girl brought her date into the same bar I was in..What were they up too??
So the thing with liking poompui guys: my Thai friend told me that they think that a guy is fat because they can afford the rich foods that make a person fat. So my friend’s point was that it is a wealth profiling thing.
There is that so maybe there is hope. Thats a common thing throughout history around the world. But From my experience most Thai girls do not, given a choice.
@@NolanJax mmmm, “wealth profiling “ is not what I would call “hope”. Just get Ozempic. In Thailand It probably cost a third of what it does in North America.
Chiangmai has a lot of love scams too girl will get close to you at club then said do you want to join to a place for supper or night clubs these joints will jack up ridiculous prices and these girls get a cut of the big bills you have paid
Didn't realize 20 was age limit for bar girls, so when the news said underage girls they could have meant 19 years olds. They should really consider rephrasing that next time when they announce something like that.
Honestly, I don't understand all the negativity people have about bar girls. They are trying to make a living anyway they can. If you go to these type of bars anywhere in the world and don't think the girls are trying to make money off you anyway they can, you must be living in a bubble. Just go, enjoy and buy them a few drinks. Isn't it's why you're there in the first place? If you're there to just drink and want to be by yourself, just let them know or go to other type of bars.
I have done alot of time in Thailand,,,bar scene and village,,when all these farangs do podcasts it's because they are on the bones and trying to make a baht talking up all this type of crap,,,,best advise is keep your credit card close and don't go shouting every bargirl that wants a bar drink,,,only spend on the one you plan to nail that night,,,pick carefully
Does it matter? We go there and lie to ourselves that we are rich and hansum, and go around lying to ourselves that we can actually get any of these girls if we weren't paying for it. You're on vacation, immerse yourself in the fantasy world until it's time to go home. Leave your real-world emotions at home.
Would love to know how much it cost to make a bar down there and what’s needed to make one, like permits and all that….i been wanting to do it for ages and ages.
It depends on where you want to get one. I made a video all about how much it cost me but essentially it was - 300k bhat for key money - 60k bhat for first month rent and damage deposit - 50k for startup liquor - 100k for renovations and supplies I will be creating a lot more content solely on starting a bar in the membership. Those videos don't work as well on youtube
Are you saying I am not a handsome man. 🤣🤣I would like to visit chiang mai. I have been to pattaya many times and know the "game" but some can still pull your strings.
8:44 That's correct. Chiang Mai (and other cities) are not the same as Pattaya. Many of the girls, particularly the younger, prettier ones (usually from the mountain villages) and are not interested in bar fines, they are merely there for lady drinks. Although there are girls in Pattaya who are also only interested in lady drinks, the percentage of them doing so is much smaller than Chiang Mai. If you're a monger, go to Pattaya, it's practically impossible not to bar fine a different pretty lady every night there. *If you're young, you will have a better chance of bar fining a lady, particularly if you're genuinely handsome. You might even get it for free believe it or not. *If you do spend hours buying a lady drinks and she doesn't leave with you, don't go back. If she doesn't go with you on the first night she's clearly not interested in you so don't waste any more time and money on her. *Never ring the bell. They don't respect you for it, in fact they view you as being a soft touch for doing this and you throwing money at them makes them even less likely to let you bar fine them. "Why bar fine if this guy give me money for nothing"?
I would advise any guy who has any doubt if the girl is of legal age to check her ID. The Thai calendar is 543 years ahead of ours, so the year 2546 means she is at least 21 years old.
How’s the air quality up there in Chiang Mai? When does the smoky season start and end? I’d like to check out that area, but I can’t afford to be there during the smoky season. My lungs won’t tolerate it.
This is very good material, but none of it is surprising. Of course the girl is placing odds in her own favor to enhance her income, as well as enhancing the income for the bar and also for her friends there. Men just need to be rich and circumspect so that they are not surprised when later more of the truth reveals itself. It's all good. Girls need to make a living, and of course most of them are helping their families too.
Correct. Try to find a lady with genuine honest productive employment. They are a different breed. But they may also visit these bars with their friends and workmates. Always try to find out if they are just visiting with respectable people, or normally work there. Lets reverse this and pretend that you are a foreigner wanting to visit the USA, and all that's on the web is how to do business / conduct yourself with hookers in Las Vegas. Geez...... All this Philippines and Thailand bar girl stuff on the web is about fantasy's, not real life. Santa Claus's address is C/O North Pole and his phone number is (whatever) and he will give you what you ask for..... so grow up, form a mature and realistic personality, and you may grow up well balanced and realistic. Who knows.....
Never had a bar girl. Only thai experience I had. Met a thai online, liked her friend. Took the friend all over Asia, loving her in many countries. In Vietnam it was funny as most thought she was viet, but a head talker than most viets.
15, 20, 25 years ago, it was unheard of to not bar fine. Now even on Soi 6 many girls wont barfine, even younger guys say this too. Too much money to be made on drinks.
So in Canada where I am from a lot of the escorts here will say they do have a child because that normally tags on the man's heart and makes them want to help her financially or they say they're in college and struggling to pay for college when they in fact do not go to college
It’s so odd. I’ve been to Panama , Costa Rica, Colombia , Amsterdam, a few other places. Not a monger but not gonna lie. Have participated in this occasionally. But for whatever reason , men lose their minds in Thailand. Why would you try to find a serious relationship with a girl that’s involved in this industry? They are there for fun. Just enjoy a beer or two. Why get involved and complicate your life and try to play Captain Save A Garden Tool? Doesn’t matter which country you’re in , they all got a story , and the only thing that can rescue them …is your cash. Just have fun. Don’t be an idiot.
To work out the date of birth on a Thai,s id card simply sutract 543 from the date shown on the card.This will give you the date acording to the grgorion calander.Ie the year 2000 is 2543 in Thai year,s.
Follow the 3 day rule...period. It never works out. I have NEVER seen a long term relationship work out with a bar girl. These women are defective when compared to Western, Christian women.
Pretty much everything listed you can get right here in the USA in every bar here. I've only had one be super honest in that when i asked one out, she looked at my hands and said no. She wouldn't date single guys, she only dated married men because she didn't want the single guys trying to come home with her all the time.
so, random question, is it an issue if a guy wants to buy another guy a drink at one of these bars? I had a few situations where the customer wanted to buy me a drink, just hey buddy lets talk, and the servers wouldnt let them. Did they think I was free lancing? Didnt ask, guys just wanted me around for a conversation.
Huh, thats odd I have never heard of that before. Sometimes the manager wants guys to be focused on the girls to get as many drinks from them as possible so maybe thats why? Not a good practice imo tho. People should be able to buy for who they want.
@@NolanJax that happened twice in Bangkok. The guy got pissed. I was like dude I can afford my own drink dont worry. Didnt have an issue with in Pattaya or Hua Hin. Dudes get wasted and just want to party. I am guessing it was just the waitress being difficult. His argument was, I am here spending money, and you are going to complain? The other time I didn't stay around long enough cause now it was a pattern.
The main thing you have to have is high quality weed... That is not PGR... And have a cover of 25 us to get in... Which is credit towards your weed purchase or coffee purchases.... No alcohol.
So the shorter version of this video is: expect the bar girl to lie to you all the time about every single thing. That should cover it.
Exactly !
He has 41,000views
Customers lie too, its the lying game.
😂😂😂 Same as USA girls. GOT IT!
... a woman
Remember she's not yours it's just your turn to rent.
To help pay her rent 😂
Just like a marriage. Just shorter term
100 % rent a gf 😂😂😂
@@onlyqualitycounts9365damn bro lol. I know you're right but it still hurts
At least you probably won't hear: "But why haven't you called me!?" ...That's the best thing about a rental.
I have friends that don't understand this dynamic. It's wild. Men are in love, women are IN BUSINESS...
Fellow Coachgang member?
The World's oldest profession at work!!!
I heard this all 50 years ago when i was an air force guy stationed in Thailand during the vietnam war. And i was a handsome man back then lol
Been there brother,,we are still handsome 😂,,
@Raymond... 100% and yet there are still 100's of Youtooooooobers who re-hash the same 'Top 10 Do's and Dont's'...info we've all heard 1,000 times before, in the hope of earning money from uploads
You know Dan from Foxy Lady?
Was there alot of 'action'?
You still are if your in Pattaya
When a bargirl says “I like you cause you have good heart”, that means that you’re not handsome man but that you have money(or she thinks that you have money).
In the Philippines it's called pesonality
OH, I thought being called handsome meant that she thinks you have money?
Good heart: means weak man. Becarefull buddies
Bless his "good" heart, lol.
This is all true. Find a Thai girl with a regular job. My wife worked her entire career in a BKK hospital as a nurse's aide. Great person, very honest, never been near the bar scene. We now live in southern California. Very happy.
She's different.
@@seekowmak As I said, she has never been near the bar scene. So, yes, she is different from a bar girl.
@@Nordic_Sky Where you meet? Library?
@@Nordic_Sky , how long into the relationship before she asked for money the first time?
If she not worked in a bar. Why you react to this topic? This is a topic about prostitutes. @seekowmak
My buffalo is sick, I have to take my buffalo to the hospital 😂
From Hua Hin Thailand 🇹🇭 that was funny 😄
Those things are known for blowing gaskets, it's best to buy a semi-reliable tractor.
My Chicken only got one leg
@johnrait4784 And you can say, let's put it on the Treager and make some jerky. 😁
@@johnrait4784 buffalo needs surgery
They aren’t lying, they are selling you an experience
LoL
Really is the reality. It’s all make believe.
Viewers: A good read is, "Private Dancer". A good friend knew I was going to ASIA for the first time. He gave me the book and told me good luck. I highly recommend the book. You can find a free pdf of it online. Better to buy a paper back. FYI: The book is banned here in Thailand. Informative video. Good luck there in CM.
Written by British author
Stephen Leather. Top read
Banned in Thailand. LOL. That means it is insightful.
This is an age-old practice, been going on forever, I will admit that I fell for it back in the 80's when I first visited Thailand, now I just watch the newbies get sucked in by the girls, very entertaining.
This lifestyle is depressing AF.
Also, I can’t shake the weirdness of pretending to enjoy spending time with someone who’s clearly trying to con, hustle, and manipulate you.
I gotta admit that I would rather go for a drink at these places with 2 or 3 friends for getting a little loose and having a few laughs, than doing the bar-girl thing. They must think that we have rocks in our heads.... easy prey.
Get a lap dance at a strip club 😅
That’s called marriage friend.
@@maxsparks5183🤣
@@jantyyaqoub2132 Welcome to life!
If a guy almost never hears the “handsome man” mantra on the bar streets, does that mean he’s truly repulsive?
It means they think you don’t have any money
🥃👴🏻 WANNA GO OUT
@@BangkokPaul Exactly, or dont want to spend any
@ then they might say “cheap Charlie”
it can mean that they think you're poor or you're actually handsome. edit: or they've seen you multiple times and know you're not fresh off the boat gullible newbie or you have that aura
Man, it’s like the person who invented the video game giving you the cheat codes, and still SOME guys won’t even listen and then say NO SHES DIFFERENT !!! 😂❤
Omg great video , idk how much clearer it can get !?!
You speak the truth my friend. You speak the truth.
I never bother with bar girls…wasted too much of my time and funds are better spent on other avenues.
Having a full service massage in the privacy and security of your own room.
Gent's clubs offer short time in the premises but, you’ll pay for ladies drinks.
Still, better than the 3 week millioniare-girlie bars.
it's a valid investment.... what could go wrong?
Massage girls is the go to place!
Ladyboys I guess is your bag 🤪🤪
Anyone who goes to a bar and expects to be idolised is living in cloud cuckoo land .
😂
You will be idolized, until you run out of baht
Good, I have been going to the Far East for 51 years going back to when Korea was affordable. Just realize a barfine is just short term employment, any employee is just waiting to get off work. You should not read any romantic inferences into the situation. Have fun,but when the fun is done move on and don't try and relive history. It might be hard for some that are young and possessive, but the older you get the more thick skinned you will get to the romance business.
You hit the nail on the head
Honestly, I just don’t understand bar girls at all. I’m happy to drink and have conversations with people there but paying for a woman to hang around is just bizarre. You lack any game at all if that’s your only option for attracting women. I’m fine with paying for sex but it’s got to be a straight forward transaction.
Yes got the same thing, thats why I prefer freelance ladies and if I pick one up, I can always go with her to a Bar before going to my Hotel (I take the girls always LT) 😅
i spent a month in thailand. I bought 1 lady drink the entire time. I actually had to chase down a girl and say, hey, you do that lady drink bs? She goes yes, I said just want to do it once. So we did it and she gave me the behind the scenes truth. I was like this is so stupid, paying almost double for flavored water. I said bye to her after a few minutes and she was being bought drinks by multiple guys during that time. Its so damn stupid.
@@TonySchiavone6You ever go on a date in the U.S.? Same thing.
So what’s the benefit of having sex with someone who doesn’t desire you? I’ll never understand what anyone gets from that.
@@maxsparks5183 ur thinking too much bout it😒
I think that advice applies to people on vacation. I live here and speak Thai. They just have normal conversations with me 😂😂 they don't see me as a customer anymore, and I'll buy them a drink as a friend. people on vacation seem to forget these girls have to pay for basic items such as rent, food, laundry etc etc even before they have made a profit to spend it on whatever their reason is to work in a bar
Exactly.
100 percent
In other words, they know you're broke af.
@glennday7802 might have just put the foot down like I have. Many then ignore you but then the gems are revealed, who you become just good friends with whom to party with etc.
@@glennday7802 😩
Remember guys, the thicker the wallet the more handsome you are. No money means no honey and rice.😂
Buffalo needs that special treatment
Good. Poor guys deserve nothing.
"and rice" :D
Love you long time show me your $$$$$$$$
@davis9877 I say rice because my filipina gf eats rice with everything and sometimes......she just wants to eat rice and nothing else....lol.
Thanks for the honesty man.
I remember the saying, “You can take the girl out if the bar, but you can’t take the bar out of the girl.” They are great if you know the game.
So i met a girl in a bar and have been married for 20 years with 2 kids,when will it go bad do u think?
@@livinb450 a game the bar girl will always win 🏆 💰
@@GeoffLawson-g6l she's playing the long game .good luck 😃 😀 😄
@@TheNicholaas their win, though,, you gotta make it a win win. Not sweat them getting and extra $4.00 out of you. I come from LA, where the 3 beers is $30 USD, and renting a pool table is $20 more. Letting them "win the game" is enjoying 4 buying them 4 playing pool the whole time, for $25 and a beautiful girl playing grab ass, and thrilled with you buying the 4 lady drinks.
couldnt agree more!
im going to Pattaya in february, i have been spending a lot of time on youtube this past week and on google maps, so i can find out as much as i can about it, i have made plans so that i am on day tours every day between 8am to about between 3 and 5 pm, and while the lodge i am staying at is, 1 pretty near to the beach, to the right is a 10 min walk away from walking street and to the left is 10 mins walk away from rock bars where there are no bar girls, a sweet choice of a load of rock bars and cheaper beers :D haha, guess where i will be spending my evening? xD haha
I loved Chiang Mai when I visited in the early 80's, particularly loved all the dirt roads in the middle of the city and around the moat....would go back just for that.
That Chiang Mai disappeared 40 yrs ago mate, it's all paved and been built,pulled down and rebuilt since the early 80s.....but yes, Chiang Mai was great then.
It amuses me...the self delusion. Almost as if these guys WANT to be scammed.
Addictive. Can't wake up from the dream 😂
They have lived all their lives dreaming of something better...But all their experience is that they are too unattractive, too old, too this or that to be able to get something better...Then when they can just pay for it...Well, that's where all their money goes chasing the Dream...chasing the Illusion...chasing the Deception...
like moths to a candle
@@robertreynolds580 party pooper😒
Yes it’s different in Phuket the girls constantly tell you their take home price. They are also pretty upfront about kids. If you compensate them they will meet you before work. Just need to have a relationship. The only thing that is annoying is buy drinks for their friends unless they are pretty as well but it’s usually someone who has no customers and leeches off the better girls.
That age thing should purely be on bar owners to make sure of age. Customers just go off what they told.
If she's under 18 the customer is in trouble too. 😂
@ yeah no shit but if u go to a club anywhere in the world u have to show I.d. So that is proof everyone is legal to drink or whatever
@@stevenduncan3392 it isn't proof enough in your case. Regardless of the country before you have sex with anyone it's smart to photograph the ID and take their real phone number. Being sober when doing it the first time is smart.
"They can lie up or lie down."
I prefer the latter.
My English Teachers favourite saying was :
"Never lie, accept in Bed".
Long term it's not good for the bar owners if the girls never go. This practice has become so common where I live that tourists stop coming altogether and share their experiences all over the internet.
Even on Soi 6 now and many $$$ gogo bars.
You are very much correct. I live in the Pattaya area and the restaurant style bars often have more customers going for drinks, just because the bar formula is not as "fun" as it used to be. The ladies seem to be getting more and more lazy over the years. But all should remember, these ladies have a difficult job, long hours, family responsibilities, etc., etc. Just show respect and by all means know the game.
@@SpicyThaiTacos MOST ARE FAT, UGLY AND CAN'T EVEN DANCE. TWENTY YEARS AGO THEY WERE HOT, SLENDER, CUTE AND COULD BREAK A FEW H0RNY M0VES.
This was spot on. I wish that all newcomers to Thailand would watch this.
Hey buddy! Great spot for your bar. Love that place and good video. Good luck to you!
But if she says I’m handsome and my mom says I’m handsome then it must be true…
But what if they say I'm handsome and my mother doesn't
Thai ID-cards have included also western birth date for a long time...
Yep, he is full of shit
I am Ross from Brisbane Australia . Your info is great . Thank you so much
Thanks mate. I appreciate that.
Good video, will be visiting Chiang Mai next week, may pop into your bar.
Appreciate it, hopefully I’ll see you next week.
'ThaiTalk with Dan' has covered this for years. You and he are very informative and helpful.
How can he give advise his bird fucked off with his kid lol... He then scammed his viewers out of money because he didn't have insurance for hospital bills.
Best suggestion I can share is if you’re going to a bar fine type establishment call over the mamasan and give her a tip, buy her a drink if she wants one. Then point out the girls your interested in. And ask any question you like and she will be straight forward. Narrow down your choice based on the info given then call that one over. You have already pre-qualified who will go on a bar fine, if she has kids whatever. Buy one drink just for her and ask if you pay her bar fine will she spend the night with you. Save time and money. Good luck.
I feel bad for any guy that doesn't already know all of this. It's the same throughout the entire world, not just in Thailand
Great video. I had 10 years in Thailand and had every one of these sed to me. The old saying in the ex pat community is. How do you make a small Fortune in Pattaya? Take a large fortune 😂.
I had a massage shop and also own a condo. Yes I lost a fortune. But do not regret a minute of it... the girls do what they do... no hard feelings....
All I got from this video was don’t go to Chang Mai as there isn’t as many girls. Haha. Half joking. Good luck with the bar!
whether they use an excuse or whether they are telling the truth is irrelevant - it's up to the girl what she wants to do, they are not compelled to go with you. Anything else is HT.
HT MEANS "HAT TIP" ?
My Gik’s sponsor sends 45k Baht per month.
I respect his Shining White Armour.
Wow that’s crazy. Lucky her tho
You're getting the better end of the deal if you're getting it for free and the mug in the other country is sending 45k per month for his sweet and innocent angel.
its not just the bar girls. I was surrounded by thai women with sponsors. We would hang out, the girls all would talk on their phones with them. Ask for money. Money comes. Next guy calls. They sit around doing nothing all day. Those guys though are doing it with girls in multiple countries. Thai, Philippines, Columbia, Vietnam. They spend a few months at home. Then "date" the girl in that country sponsor them the rest of the year for a 2 month party while together. So its not just bar girls doing this, its all of them.
I respect these entrepreneurs trying to earn a buck doing business in South Wast Asia which is most definitely not a transparent and easy territory to navigate. And on top of that in the bar/nightlife scene!!! That is even more complex and can turn into a nightmare dealing with the local “secret societies”.
These type of gigs ain’t easy.
Chinese women do the same thing....ask her out on a date, you think it will just be you and her...but then you get where you are supposed to meet her, she is there with 4-6 of her friends. And she expects you to pay for ALL of them!
Nope.....not playing that game.
Do foreign bar managers have a gard time finding work out there?
I have heard that in Pattaya it’s easy to find work as a manager. Doesn’t really happen up here in chiang Mai tho.
@NolanJax thanks for a quick response 👍
its quite entertaining to not buy a single lady drink & watch how these bar girls operate. Customers can be as capable liars as they are. I generally tell them i arrived today for 2 weeks and flash a bit of foreign dollar around to get them worked up a bit.
I love it! That's perfect. I do the exact same thing. I'll act like I'm so interested in what's on the TV. Those girls go nuts! Then the old fat girl finally comes to my table to strike up a conversation. I'll say, my TV in the hotel broke so I'm only here to watch TV and drink water.
Ok around April/May I probably come back to the Kingdom again. Chiang Mai is on the list, I will try to visit your bar
Top video mate
What annoys me is you bar fine a girl and she takes you back to her bar and they still charge lady drink prices.
Why do you go to her bar? You go to other places after you rented her....
@@jiml7933 .. I get what you are saying. I'm just saying they should not charge you lady drinks after she has been bar fined.
@@bensteel3944 never go back to her bar. YOUR in charge of where you go not her.
@@bensteel3944 , if a lady ask you for a drink and you want to buy her one, tell her you won't pay for lady drink but a regular. They understand this and won't charge you for it after.
@@bensteel3944 , and do not go back to your ladys bar, she just wants you to drink there so she can earn from it. I bet you heard she wanted to go see her friend at her own bar or that she wants to go there drinking in the evening.
As usual I have a slightly different take, while of course agreeing with all these examples. But here it goes: if these completely minor detours around the truth matter at all to you, then you're doing it wrong. You really should not be in a bar to find a partner for life; you're there to have a good time for an hour, maybe an evening. At best you end up good friends with someone with the understanding that she knows you're already in a relationship somewhere, and you know how she makes her money and the more she makes from guys the better.
Rock Hard bar, now closed, used to have a tee shirt years ago with Thai girl sayings and their meanings. Was hilarious.
Rock Hard with K a m a g r a
sigh....well, good to know...even if I've heard the story or warning here a zillion times on other channels. I was in Chiang Mai in March and April of this year and had a great time--spent a good deal of time in 'I'm Shy' and this other bar. I'd do my thing during the day and then wife would come join me around 5-6pm. OBviously I'm not gonna try to hook up with any of these girls--I enjoy the flirtation and the titillation of chatting with the girls. I tried to find your bar down the street but never did. I'll return maybe next year.
That being said, there is a language barrier but you can meet normal Thai women. I don’t know why you would ever want to seriously date a bar girl or freelancer
Super cool video bro. Lots of under age girls up in Udon Thani too.
That’s unfortunate but I appreciate it. I’ll definitely check out your channel
Question. Was in pattaya hook up in a bar. Walking by same bar the next day grab up by another girl from same bar. Anyway walk by bar and went into another bar further down. The two girls I hook up with kinda hung around this bar and on another day the first girl brought her date into the same bar I was in..What were they up too??
Best to assume every word out of their mouth is a lie.
You said it bro,they opened the mouth the lies come out
It is. They are.
@@4040smokey yeah because 99% it is, aimed at getting something out of your pocket
Are we talking about American girls or Thai girls because they both sound the same.
The Asian girls are at another level,absolutely perfection absolutely
It's the same everywhere in Asia (from 1st hand experience)
So the thing with liking poompui guys: my Thai friend told me that they think that a guy is fat because they can afford the rich foods that make a person fat. So my friend’s point was that it is a wealth profiling thing.
There is that so maybe there is hope. Thats a common thing throughout history around the world. But From my experience most Thai girls do not, given a choice.
Yeah, keep telling yourself that while you're having your 3rd bowl of ice cream 😂😂😂
Ouin! oot oot! (her friends will say laughing in the background... while you swallow more ganom). But hey it's not a lie... if you believe it.
@@NolanJax mmmm, “wealth profiling “ is not what I would call “hope”. Just get Ozempic. In Thailand It probably cost a third of what it does in North America.
Maybe 500 years ago.
Chiangmai has a lot of love scams too girl will get close to you at club then said do you want to join to a place for supper or night clubs these joints will jack up ridiculous prices and these girls get a cut of the big bills you have paid
@@allanooi4560 knee deep in ya pockets, but hey if ya got the money run up the tab🥂🍜🍤🍣🥘🍲
Thanks for the tips. 👍
The flip side of Thailand getting richer is all the Host bars now in CM where middle class ladies (30+) go to find a younger Asian guy.
Didn't realize 20 was age limit for bar girls, so when the news said underage girls they could have meant 19 years olds. They should really consider rephrasing that next time when they announce something like that.
18 to work in the bar, 20 to drink. They were younger than that.
Many hotels will turn away 18 and 19 year olds as well if you try to take them in.
Good video 👍
Appreciate it.
Honestly, I don't understand all the negativity people have about bar girls. They are trying to make a living anyway they can. If you go to these type of bars anywhere in the world and don't think the girls are trying to make money off you anyway they can, you must be living in a bubble. Just go, enjoy and buy them a few drinks. Isn't it's why you're there in the first place? If you're there to just drink and want to be by yourself, just let them know or go to other type of bars.
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I have done alot of time in Thailand,,,bar scene and village,,when all these farangs do podcasts it's because they are on the bones and trying to make a baht talking up all this type of crap,,,,best advise is keep your credit card close and don't go shouting every bargirl that wants a bar drink,,,only spend on the one you plan to nail that night,,,pick carefully
Where’s your bar at I’d love to visit
Loi Kroh boxing stadium right at the back. We are closed this weekend but come usually open 6 days a week
Does it matter? We go there and lie to ourselves that we are rich and hansum, and go around lying to ourselves that we can actually get any of these girls if we weren't paying for it. You're on vacation, immerse yourself in the fantasy world until it's time to go home. Leave your real-world emotions at home.
Great advice. Whats the name of your new bar?
🥃👴🏻 DUFFY’S TAVERN
It is going to be Jax Bar changing the sign this week.
Would love to know how much it cost to make a bar down there and what’s needed to make one, like permits and all that….i been wanting to do it for ages and ages.
It depends on where you want to get one. I made a video all about how much it cost me but essentially it was
- 300k bhat for key money
- 60k bhat for first month rent and damage deposit
- 50k for startup liquor
- 100k for renovations and supplies
I will be creating a lot more content solely on starting a bar in the membership. Those videos don't work as well on youtube
As a bar owner do you get freebies from the bar girls?
Are you saying I am not a handsome man. 🤣🤣I would like to visit chiang mai. I have been to pattaya many times and know the "game" but some can still pull your strings.
8:44 That's correct. Chiang Mai (and other cities) are not the same as Pattaya.
Many of the girls, particularly the younger, prettier ones (usually from the mountain villages) and are not interested in bar fines, they are merely there for lady drinks.
Although there are girls in Pattaya who are also only interested in lady drinks, the percentage of them doing so is much smaller than Chiang Mai.
If you're a monger, go to Pattaya, it's practically impossible not to bar fine a different pretty lady every night there.
*If you're young, you will have a better chance of bar fining a lady, particularly if you're genuinely handsome. You might even get it for free believe it or not.
*If you do spend hours buying a lady drinks and she doesn't leave with you, don't go back. If she doesn't go with you on the first night she's clearly not interested in you so don't waste any more time and money on her.
*Never ring the bell. They don't respect you for it, in fact they view you as being a soft touch for doing this and you throwing money at them makes them even less likely to let you bar fine them. "Why bar fine if this guy give me money for nothing"?
I only enter freelance bars, never done a bar fine in my life and wont.. And get their early, as all the good lookers get picked up quickly lol..
This was very informative
Appreciate it.
I spend the month every January in Thailand go to the less crowded cities the girls still play games but not as much visit a small bar and have fun
I would advise any guy who has any doubt if the girl is of legal age to check her ID. The Thai calendar is 543 years ahead of ours, so the year 2546 means she is at least 21 years old.
How’s the air quality up there in Chiang Mai? When does the smoky season start and end? I’d like to check out that area, but I can’t afford to be there during the smoky season. My lungs won’t tolerate it.
That usually starts around mid to end of February.
This is very good material, but none of it is surprising. Of course the girl is placing odds in her own favor to enhance her income, as well as enhancing the income for the bar and also for her friends there. Men just need to be rich and circumspect so that they are not surprised when later more of the truth reveals itself. It's all good. Girls need to make a living, and of course most of them are helping their families too.
Its a business why would you believe her? Enjoy a good night and move on. Stop simp guys
Honesty is in short supply nowadays !
Lots of nice girls that don't work in bars. Blows my mind people mess around with those girls.
Correct. Try to find a lady with genuine honest productive employment. They are a different breed. But they may also visit these bars with their friends and workmates.
Always try to find out if they are just visiting with respectable people, or normally work there.
Lets reverse this and pretend that you are a foreigner wanting to visit the USA, and all that's on the web is how to do business / conduct yourself with hookers in Las Vegas. Geez......
All this Philippines and Thailand bar girl stuff on the web is about fantasy's, not real life.
Santa Claus's address is C/O North Pole and his phone number is (whatever) and he will give you what you ask for..... so grow up, form a mature and realistic personality, and you may grow up well balanced and realistic. Who knows.....
i am going there on vacation not to get married, thats why. bar girls are a lot of fun
Never had a bar girl. Only thai experience I had. Met a thai online, liked her friend. Took the friend all over Asia, loving her in many countries.
In Vietnam it was funny as most thought she was viet, but a head talker than most viets.
15, 20, 25 years ago, it was unheard of to not bar fine. Now even on Soi 6 many girls wont barfine, even younger guys say this too. Too much money to be made on drinks.
So in Canada where I am from a lot of the escorts here will say they do have a child because that normally tags on the man's heart and makes them want to help her financially or they say they're in college and struggling to pay for college when they in fact do not go to college
It’s so odd. I’ve been to Panama , Costa Rica, Colombia , Amsterdam, a few other places. Not a monger but not gonna lie. Have participated in this occasionally. But for whatever reason , men lose their minds in Thailand.
Why would you try to find a serious relationship with a girl that’s involved in this industry?
They are there for fun. Just enjoy a beer or two. Why get involved and complicate your life and try to play Captain Save A Garden Tool?
Doesn’t matter which country you’re in , they all got a story , and the only thing that can rescue them …is your cash.
Just have fun. Don’t be an idiot.
They always say Handsome man to me. But never get that in my home country
Great video thanks
No problem 👍
To work out the date of birth on a Thai,s id card simply sutract 543 from the date shown on the card.This will give you the date acording to the grgorion calander.Ie the year 2000 is 2543 in Thai year,s.
Hello. I'm a New Zealand Dj looking to work in Thailand --Would love to talk more !!
Thats awesome, sure I would love to talk more about that. What are you thinking of doing?
Follow the 3 day rule...period. It never works out. I have NEVER seen a long term relationship work out with a bar girl. These women are defective when compared to Western, Christian women.
geez, they must be pretty bad...... that's a low bar to set
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Pretty much everything listed you can get right here in the USA in every bar here. I've only had one be super honest in that when i asked one out, she looked at my hands and said no. She wouldn't date single guys, she only dated married men because she didn't want the single guys trying to come home with her all the time.
so, random question, is it an issue if a guy wants to buy another guy a drink at one of these bars? I had a few situations where the customer wanted to buy me a drink, just hey buddy lets talk, and the servers wouldnt let them. Did they think I was free lancing? Didnt ask, guys just wanted me around for a conversation.
Huh, thats odd I have never heard of that before. Sometimes the manager wants guys to be focused on the girls to get as many drinks from them as possible so maybe thats why? Not a good practice imo tho. People should be able to buy for who they want.
@@NolanJax that happened twice in Bangkok. The guy got pissed. I was like dude I can afford my own drink dont worry. Didnt have an issue with in Pattaya or Hua Hin. Dudes get wasted and just want to party. I am guessing it was just the waitress being difficult. His argument was, I am here spending money, and you are going to complain? The other time I didn't stay around long enough cause now it was a pattern.
I met a girl in pattaya, she told me she was 46, i said I'm 79 no problem for me!
Always abide by the Three Day Rule, 😊😊😊😊
what is that in specific?
The deception already begins in showing interest in men that they are not actually attracted to!
you can spot that easily.... they are gagging on their last meal of rice as they attempt a tearful smile.
The main thing you have to have is high quality weed... That is not PGR... And have a cover of 25 us to get in... Which is credit towards your weed purchase or coffee purchases.... No alcohol.
Thai calendar +543 years. Now for a Thai the year is 2567. When you look at her ID card subtract 543.
The thai national id card has all details in English and that including the date of birth in western calender dates
We know all this but the 🐈 is usually that good it blinds us