Great Q, we also wonder about surface durability, and the long term spin potential of current paddles, especially once the price eclipses $150.00. The other trait we keep an eye on, is paddle de-lamination which tends to increase power. After lots of play, and/or aggressively hitting the ball, inevitably a paddle is going to break down in terms of smoothing out the surface. And if the paddle is thermo-formed the core breaks down and so does the uni-body frame. The latter increases power and former makes creating spin on the ball more of a chore. Between the increase in power, and the lack of control from less friction on the surface it becomes difficult to keep shots inside the lines. As far as a study indicating that paddles are breaking down after 6 months of use, it sounds about right if you hit hard and play often. It might be harder to do, but I feel the study should qualify paddle use/break-down in terms of hours, and not months. I am more than an avid pickler, but have a tennis background. I mention this because I own racquets that are more than 10 years old, and they still play and feel great. At this point, I do not anticipate that I will keep and play with a paddle that is even half that age. Mark/Pickleball Warehouse
@@pickleballwarehouse thanks!! That is why I asked about the owl paddles. They have a fleece like surface and it seems to spin well and I wonder how long it will hold up..
I would say it’s the king of spins. I have the owl and my serve goes 6 feet High and drops baseline going fast. Popping up at there face. Hard to return.
Thank you for the feedback, and we also feel that customer service is critical regardless of the cost of the product and/or service. However, charging an ultra-premium price would have most people assume the service is going to be on par with the price; almost like that is part of the reason the price is higher. I am on a bit of a journey or experiment with the purchase of a MOD-TA 15 (16mm). I am pretty easy on paddles, in terms of court contact, but I do often hit the ball offensively. I play around 8 hours of PB per week and my threshold for reasonable paddle durability is 1.5 years. I feel that is fair considering I pay less for a tennis racquet that I can use for more than a decade. Honestly I do not expect the paddle will actually break, but rather break-down as far as the core integrity, de-lamination and smoothing out of the MOD-TA 15's surface. That said, if we are ever fortunate enough to have you shop with us for a paddle, we make the return process very easy (PW pays for the return transit fee within the 48 states). You have a "no Q's asked" for a 30 day paddle return after the day a paddle purchased new gets to your address. And any sort of potential paddle defect is handled through Pickleball Warehouse, and we then take it up with the manufacturer from there. Mark/Pickleball Warehouse
1.5 yrs is ambitious to me. I’ve only been playing for 6 months but as a tennis player we’re hard on paddles. I was main’ing an 11six24 Hurache-X Kevlar 14mm as my first mid-priced paddle but I had no grit and the edge guard detaching by week 11. They did honor the warranty quickly though. I’m currently playing with a Mod TA-15 14mm and am hoping to get at least 3-4 months out of it. At least it has a 1 yr warranty.
Great video. Would like to see more comparison of paddles.
WHat about surface durability for spin? I saw a study last year that said after 6mo many loose their spin ability.
Great Q, we also wonder about surface durability, and the long term spin potential of current paddles, especially once the price eclipses $150.00. The other trait we keep an eye on, is paddle de-lamination which tends to increase power. After lots of play, and/or aggressively hitting the ball, inevitably a paddle is going to break down in terms of smoothing out the surface. And if the paddle is thermo-formed the core breaks down and so does the uni-body frame. The latter increases power and former makes creating spin on the ball more of a chore. Between the increase in power, and the lack of control from less friction on the surface it becomes difficult to keep shots inside the lines. As far as a study indicating that paddles are breaking down after 6 months of use, it sounds about right if you hit hard and play often. It might be harder to do, but I feel the study should qualify paddle use/break-down in terms of hours, and not months. I am more than an avid pickler, but have a tennis background. I mention this because I own racquets that are more than 10 years old, and they still play and feel great. At this point, I do not anticipate that I will keep and play with a paddle that is even half that age.
Mark/Pickleball Warehouse
@@pickleballwarehouse thanks!! That is why I asked about the owl paddles. They have a fleece like surface and it seems to spin well and I wonder how long it will hold up..
In the hands of a good player more like 6 to 12 weeks. My last main paddle’s grit was pretty smooth in the middle by week 8.
My best pickleball paddles for spin is HUDEF Viva Pro Gen3.
How about Paddletek ESQ-C?
What about the new Owl quiet paddles?
I would say it’s the king of spins. I have the owl and my serve goes 6 feet High and drops baseline going fast. Popping up at there face. Hard to return.
Volair Mach 1 Forza
Love my Persus but man their customer service stinks. For the price the customer service should be top notch.
Thank you for the feedback, and we also feel that customer service is critical regardless of the cost of the product and/or service. However, charging an ultra-premium price would have most people assume the service is going to be on par with the price; almost like that is part of the reason the price is higher. I am on a bit of a journey or experiment with the purchase of a MOD-TA 15 (16mm). I am pretty easy on paddles, in terms of court contact, but I do often hit the ball offensively. I play around 8 hours of PB per week and my threshold for reasonable paddle durability is 1.5 years. I feel that is fair considering I pay less for a tennis racquet that I can use for more than a decade. Honestly I do not expect the paddle will actually break, but rather break-down as far as the core integrity, de-lamination and smoothing out of the MOD-TA 15's surface. That said, if we are ever fortunate enough to have you shop with us for a paddle, we make the return process very easy (PW pays for the return transit fee within the 48 states). You have a "no Q's asked" for a 30 day paddle return after the day a paddle purchased new gets to your address. And any sort of potential paddle defect is handled through Pickleball Warehouse, and we then take it up with the manufacturer from there.
Mark/Pickleball Warehouse
1.5 yrs is ambitious to me. I’ve only been playing for 6 months but as a tennis player we’re hard on paddles. I was main’ing an 11six24 Hurache-X Kevlar 14mm as my first mid-priced paddle but I had no grit and the edge guard detaching by week 11. They did honor the warranty quickly though.
I’m currently playing with a Mod TA-15 14mm and am hoping to get at least 3-4 months out of it. At least it has a 1 yr warranty.