@@hippopotamus86 Possibly. Owning a Tv and watching it are different in Law. The scum cold callers usually get a conviction only if peopel admit to the offence. Anyone looking through my windows from my lawn " as my wife was partially dressed" will need dental work.
I've saved £3k by ditching my TV and not having a TV licence some 20 years ago. Missed it for a few months but now when I'm at a club or my parents and the TV is on I'm so glad I've saved that cash. The rubbish that goes for "entertainment" and the propaganda that passes for "news" is a joke.
I haven't missed live TV for years. I get all my news, weather, information and entertainment from TH-cam, and Rumble from around the world on subjects that interested me.
@@tuff4257 I imagine the answer is "because many fewer people will pay it". What the OP might not appreciate is that the advantage of everyone paying is that the content is not subject to commercial forces; for example, children's TV is possible because no-one is counting up the revenue and saying it's not commercially viable. That's why BBC has it and why ITV doesn't.
Any magistrate that issues a warrant based on the evidence of 'they have a phone' should be removed from office, it is beyond a stretch to interpretate owning a phone as 'evidence' of TV License evasion.
Saying they saw a phone is not evidence it's hearsay, also they are a private company for them to be able to get a search warrant is like me getting a search warrant to search my next door neighbors house because I said they stole my hedge trimmer.
@@bjrnolavlangvad3061 no but it might be prima facie evidence that you are using the car without a Road Fund Licence and you now have to register the fact that the car is kept off road. The simple answer is not to engage with them in any way -as soon as they say they say they are tv close the door .Anything you say WILL be used to your disadvantage -keeping you mouth firmly shut is entirely to your benefit .
Warrants are not issued anywhere near as often in Scotland because there, you actually need to convince a court official (Sheriff's Clerk or Procurator Fiscal) of the offence. In England and Wales, TVL merely send a electronic form into a centralised authority, stating they were told something, at such and such time and date. Whether the person 'spoken to' did say something or even someone else in the street has said something that might be vaguely construed as watching live TV then the form goes in and the majority get a warrant, via email.
I have a 9" kitchen knife in the drawer or on the ledge down there by the cooker - I haven't stabbed anyone with it yet but it does have the potential to be rammed into someone's chest for a Thursday evening disembowelment - are the police going to say "You were seen to be dicing an onion - but all axe murderers start out this way...., M'lud
Thanks for the tip about not letting them in. I was going to let TV Licence in, as I genuinely don't watch live TV. However the thought of them looking at my computer, or phone, and getting a search warrant. Then coming back and looking through my computer is a major invasion of privacy.
I've had no licence for 14 years. They came once and I declined their offer to inspect my appliances. They wrote a threatening letter which I ignored. After that I never heard from them again. So far I'm around £1500 better off. Do not let them in and do not engage with them.
12 years saving for a TV licence at present pricing I have saved over £2000, this must be killing their hateful campaign to terrorise people into paying for a licence, lol, I love the fact that so many are refusing to pay a TV licence now , I mean 159 a year increasing to 172 a year pays for my Netflix and most of the subscription for Disney and I feel I get much better value for my money due to not being forced to watch adverts. Also, VPN gives me so much content. America and the uk are decades behind the quality of acting in most Asian countries, acting quality of videography, all is so fake on western shows now and netflix has enabled us to see how poorly we have been served up the crap we thought was so good at one point.
Its utterly ridiculous that tv licensing can even apply for a search warrant to enter your home because of possible evidence of live or live recorded television.....and yet there is far worse crimes going on 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
They rarely actually get a warrant and if they did it was almost certainly issued on false information i.e. lies. The goons depend far more on people self incrimination.
NO NO, not "possible" evidence, it must be clear evidence..i.e you told them or you let them in. They are not allowed to look through windows so even if they see your tv on, its not admissible evidence. They will not get a LEGAL warrant without clear evidence so don't be fooled by their fake ipad "warrants" they aint legal no matter what the no nothing police say as they have no clue on even basic laws.
Just ignore all letters and if visited just say “No thanks” and close the door nothing more and your be fine. Do not engage in any conversation/debate do not let them in! Your be fine.
@Trixie K I prefer to ring the TV licence agent's personally, I don't get any letter's apart from the 2 yearly letter to see if I'm still happy having no licence.. I've never had a knock at the door, obviously that doesn't mean I won't at some point in the next few years.. If you decide to go down the route of ignoring them, that may cause more hassle, more letters & more chance of a visit.. But do whatever you find best 😊
@Trixie K I do agree that a person shouldn't have to declare, but it is just an automated call which takes about 5mins, don't speak to anyone.. I guess I can't be doing with all the threatening letter's lol... I'm looking forward to my 1st house visit though if that ever may arise? 🤣 Thanks for the reply, all the best being licence free 🙂🙂
I stopped paying for TV licensing when I realised it only applied to any BBC broadcastings, including radio. As I no longer own that kind of washing machine, I feel more independent with my free thinking. I don't feel brainwashed by media perceptions.
@@davidspear9790 that maybe your truth, but realistically the BBC gets their funding from TV licensing. The others are funded by advertising and sponsorship. TV license is only for BBC radio, TV and iPlayer streaming. We are programmed to believe it's all terrestrial channels.
The revenue from TV Licensing funds only the BBC, yes, but you are required a licence to watch *any* channel if it’s broadcast live. Unfair, but worth knowing.
They are not inspectors, they are door to door salesmen for Capita, I believe, and receive a commission for "persuading" you to buy a licence. All the people I know who have been prosecuted for lack of a TV licence have engaged with these people and allowed them into their homes without a warrant.
@@iamrocketray yep i went to 3 university, 3 times in my life, ( long time ago 80s ) each time in the first week we were taught the same thing about arrests and interrogation never confess to anything and never say anything to the police at all as 99% of convictions are through self confessions!
I want the main channel providers to have an option to block material that requires a TV licence from their apps. It should be very simple to implement, and even a selling point for their own streaming services.
Here's a thing, even if you watched live TV on SKY etc remember, the BBC DOES NOT OWN THE AIR WAVES transmitted by those companies otherwise they would be legally obliged to inform you of the requirement to be licensed in order to watch them! Clearly that's not the case, nor has it ever been as far as I know! imagine the lawsuit/Court Case if the BBC tried prosecuting those SUPER LARGE corporations, I don't think so, anymore than trying to prove you are, or have been 🤔🤨😏☺️😉
I agree. Also the 'live TV channels' that the BBC licence demand, you the publc pay for,...ITV..live TH-cam..ect.. should demmand a cut of the license payment.
Many years ago I upset one of the goons, this was before TH-cam etc. were even things. Came to my house after I'd ignored loads of letters. Got told no TV here, I allowed him to look since the catch you out traps didn't exist then, no TV was the end of it. He got very grumpy that I'd not responded to the letters to tell them that. My response was, I don't need a licence, I can't be forced to buy a stamp to tell you so, none of the letters had a postage paid return envelope & I'm not obliged to spend any money to not have a TV. He was clearly very grumpy & frustrated when he left.
@@beardyface8492 I remember once TV licence bloke showed up at someone's house. Asked if they had a TV licence, "No. I don't need one as I don't have a TV." Then the EastEnders theme tune could be heard coming from the living room!
When I 1st got my own property in the 1980’s I couldn’t afford to buy a TV and got bombarded by the threatening letters, I eventually sent one of their letters back [without a stamp so that they would have to pay] saying I don’t understand why you are complaining that I haven’t responded to your letters when I have no legal requirement so to do, and signed it ‘the legal occupier’ Over 35years on and I have never corresponded with them since, I have never had a TV licence, all of their letters go in the shredder, if they knock on the doors I don’t talk just close the door. I have never had a problem because I don’t give then any legal purchase what so ever.
There are millions worldwide who watch the bbc via a satellite dish and a freeview box ( so they watch live tv as well). Why is it UK residents have to pay, but for the ROW it’s free?
They kept harassing my friend and one day they phoned him to tell him they were going to come to his flat with the Police and that if he didn't let them in, the Police would arrest him. I took the phone and explained the law and they never turned up. I've seen TV Licence goons do some borderline illegal stuff when trying to gain entry into a property. Banging on the door and shouting "open up Police!" and then deny all knowledge once the door is opened and say "No, I said 'open up, please'". I've seen them come to a door, knock and tell the escorting Police to stay by the road and then when the person opens the door, they say "Those two Police Officers are going to arrest you if you don't grant me access to check your TV" knowing full well the Police were simply there to escort them to request access and make sure no violence took place. I've even seen them manipulate two Police Officers into forcing the person to let the TV Licence scum into the property and when they got inside, they turned his TV on, switched BBC One on using the TV's built in Freeview and said "Your TV is literally playing live TV as we speak and was when we walked in. You owe TV Licence". I despise the TV Licence and anyone who works for them.
seriously, if investigators spent this amount of effort in investigating serious offences like rape, murder, robbery, then crime would actually come down!
100%, it boils my blood that these practices, which are reported to target the elderly and vulnerable just trying to go about their lives in peace, are given the time of day by law enforcement, yet so much worse gets ushered under the rug
I find it completely staggering that anybody actually watches TV anymore. I haven't had a licence for 25 years, and I miss it like I miss haemorrhoids...
Thank you for this, I feel vindicated. I cancelled my BBCTV licence in 2020, had my aerial disconnected and have been very vigilant since. I only watch streams (apart form BBCiPlayer of course), and TH-cam. Before I cancelled my licence I checked the Communications Act 2003 just to confirm what I could watch. I have not looked back, considering the amount of crap churned out by the BBC these days. It is unfortunate that I can’t watch livestreams on TH-cam but it’s not that inconvenient to watch the replay. I feel vindicated because I have pointed this out in several comment sections to people (in livestream replays) and the usual answer (sometimes rude) is ‘Well it’s TH-cam - its not the BBC’. I’ve given up doing that now - if you don’t want to pay the licence fee, you need to take responsibility and check out what you can legally watch in the UK. The sooner the BBC has its charter removed - the better.
Yup. I really enjoy watching Le Mans 24 hour, but I always wait for the youtube video release several dayss later instead of live watching it. It's annoying but at least I won't get done by the butt munchers at Crapita/BBC.
You can watch live streams on TH-cam, Twitch etc, as long as they do not also stream via conventional means that require the maintenance of aerial or radio networks. Your Internet connection is provided to you via a private company that has to maintain these networks. The whole point of this tax is to provide BBC with funds outside of adverts etc, to enable the production of original content and have one source of news that won't hide behind a paywall and should technically be impartial (which they failed completely and could be the basis of a massive lawsuit if people agree to do so), but most importantly maintain the network, be it cable, radio or now digital, to stream said content, regardless of who provides it and if they gain any additional funds from this tax (see other TV Stations). That is the spirit of this tax and it's a noble one (if the internet goes offline for example and you need access to information). However, since BBC is politically too far to the left, invests the money into productions some of us at least don't care about, over pays for some of their employes and spends a ton on fancy studio equipment, and went as far as to hire a private company that pays their agents per customer "persuaded" this tax needs to be eliminate. And by the looks of it, it will in 2025.
They need your name for a prosecution. Say nothing and politely close the door. I have seen these courts in action. The judge never believes the householder, try and remember that.
I informed TVL nine months ago my elderly mother was in a Care Home and the property was empty. But this has not deterred them from sending threatening letters, some in bold red type and also "You are under Investigation" They never give up and what a waste of resources.
Listening to this educated chap explain the myriad of corner cases on topic clearly shows the law is a complete mess in this area and not fit for purpose in the modern age.
There was a comment in a TV licence video where the commenter reported that they allowed a Licence inspector in, I believe they were asked if they knew how to use the equipment to receive TV, when they replied yes, that was used as evidence to successully prosecute them. As BlackBelt said do not let them in, and do not engage in converstion with them.
do not even confirm your name, without a warrant they have exactly the same legal power as any other door to door salesman - you can also ask them to leave your property, easier to ignore them, if they persist you can right and withdraw the implied right of access they claim, and you don't even have to give your name - they are then technically trespassing if they come back good luck getting anywhere with a prosecution for it though
@@aleopardstail Don't revoke their implied right of access, it just gives them something to use against you to gain a warrant. I agree with you that you shouldn't even give them your name though, after all, what do they need a name for? It's the property that's covered by a licence, not the person living there. They only want your name because they can't drag your house to the courtroom
I’ve always wondered how it could be proved in court that you were watching iPlayer without a license. It would mean that they would have to admit that they had hacked into your wi-fi signal which would also be illegal under the Interception of telecommunications act.
When a tv license doorstep seller turned up i simply asked him for proof of business insurance on the car he parked outside my house it was very funny how he left fast than he came
Completely draconian situation of a 'forced' subscription service. How can anyone be prosecuted for watching TV broadcasts, or choosing not to?? Utterly ridiculous!
The UK get what they vote for in general elections. What Party will ever say they will abolish it when the time comes. I'm sure any party who would see the TV tax abolished would win the General Election in record numbers.
Had a creepy guy out from TV licensing yesterday. He only showed ID when asked and I couldn't read his vehicle number plate cos it was so dirty, a criminal offence which carries a fine of £1000. I've written to them saying don't send criminals to my house, I've already told you that I don't need a TV licence, if you continue to threaten me and send dodgy people to my house it will be a course of conduct amounting to harassment and do they understand? I refuse to use the online form as they want you to tick a box saying "I understand" and I most certainly do not. I wouldn't watch the BBC if you paid me. Most stuff on TV is woke shite and the ads drive me insane. Is it so hard for them to believe that some of us have better things to do?
When visiting my moms the other day and look for something to watch, i could not get over how much advertising there is. We should not be paying a tv licence they should be paying us to watch the crap they put on. Also, the pushing of minority groups, from races to disabled to alternative sexual preferences, or just people who enjoy dressing up as the opposite sex. Then the worst was before the rugby, 5 damn adverts for a boy that has one arm and plays rugby. i mean come on that was a mockery of the disabled. I prefer watching what i want without the disturbing forcing of ideas on me and the adverts that are so damn crappy. But the fun is coming, now so many have put a value of around 15 for advertising, that means in a court i can now show what value they put on my eyeballs watching their advertising. I am sure very soon, as advertising becomes more and more invasive, some big organisation is going to argue this with top lawyers and force them to pay us that £15 to watch their advertising. Google with their greed has ensured this has become a very hot topic and human rights groups will jump at the chance to hurt google for their abusive behaviour.
Im a gamer and do not watch TV or use the apps online. I once let TV licence people into my house to prove I only have a PC setup in my living room and the TV was literally a decoration not plugged in and did not have a TV signal. I received a letter a week later telling me I had to cough up for a TV licence...Dont ever let these people into your house and just ignore them they dont care.
Good video thanks for properly spelling this out. As i have said numerous times on numerous other posts ...DON'T ANSWER THE FRIGGIN DOOR ! weather you have a licence or not,let them keep coming.
I gave my TV away to a charity shop in 2014 and I have never missed it, even though I informed the TV licencing people numerous times that I did not possess a TV I still received scores of what only can be described as threatening letters over a period of 6 years. I eventually got tired of the constant barrage of threatening letters and went to see a lawyer about what they could do about what I classified as harassment. I live in Scotland and we have our own separate legal system, however, TV licencing is devolved to the UK Government. My lawyer sent them a letter instructing them to cease and desist their harassment and I have not received a letter from them in over 2 years.
If they were to find history of live TV usage on a laptop, or mobile phone, how could they prove it hadn't been watched in another premise that in fact was licensed?
@trixiek942 This!!! BBB was talking out his arse with this video. "You'd have to show them your device" pffft. Yes just help the authorities to prosecute you - BlackBeltBellend
@@davidripley2916 True. However, Laptops are usually used on an ISP - easier to track it down. Phones can use data - still I suppose they will look into ownership of device and anyone else who had access to it. The onus will no doubt be on the ISP bill payer to prove otherwise.
Bottom line, if they come calling, ask who they are, politely. When they announce "TV Licensing" etc ... respond with "No thankyou" and close the door. End of!
Thank you for your simple explanation on this from a law point of view ❤ it’s nice to see a lawyer who has got the uk people’s back on these sort of matters 👍🏻
If you refuse to interact with these people even to the point of verifying your name there is very little they can do and YOU DO NOT HAVE TO ANSWER ANY OF THEIR QUESTIONS !
It is hard to get my head around this. There was something similar in my country as well, but they had realized ages ago, that the technology and people's habits taken a huge turn, and this approach of financing any kind of tv sation makes no sense anymore. It looks, that the UK refuses to follow the trends, which is quite weird...
Yeah most of us wouldn't give a toss if the BBC just do what itv do and goes commercial but the BBC do everything in their power (other than quality programming) to stay going everything in their M.O is tricking you into believing you must have one.
The best advice to follow is to simply close your door once the person identifies themselves as being from the BBC. I have legally cancelled my TV licence but I get monthly letters threatening prosecution, all addressed to the Legal Occupier.
Never had a telly to start with. Mental illness dosen't help what with tellys being a Bread n Circus machine and propaganda influencer rolled into one, plus the threat of fines or jail just screams NO !
@@jack1d1XB OR put "return to sender" or "legal occupier not known at this address" and pop them into a post box. they then have to pay the return postage. I saved up 20 Threat O Grams and did the above, they have stopped sending me letters now BUT I am expecting a Goon to knock soon.
@@Beatlefan67 They know my name because I once filled out the no license needed form, when it came up for renewal i decided not to, After all I don't inform the police that I don't need a shotgun license. Anyway everafter it's addressed to the LEGAL OCCUPIER.
If you get a knock from a licensing goon, simply ignore them. If you don’t realise, & you open the door simply say, no thank you, have a great day, then close the door. Shred any mail that you receive. Job done.
That was great,, thank you for this advice. I thought I was safe by not having a TV and not using the other devices to watch live TV. But now I can see it's much safer not to let them in at all.
Used to work in the water industry and about 4 times a year the postman would bring to my office, sometimes up to 100 letters from TVL that could not be delivered. These would have been addressed to small glass fibre control kiosks, usually in the middle of nowhere or on the roadside verge. I assumed TVL got the address from the land registry and were dumb enough to think that they were houses, they got filed in the round filing cabinet, although I'd have liked to see their sales people trying to find them.
Dear Sir. Thankyou as always for your thorough easy to understand information relating to TV ( I reluctantly have one!)Licences etc; pretty much anything & everything you can think of. Love your videos. Where would we all be without you!!! Thankyou so much for all what you do:-)
A workaround for the TV apps is to select a different country (like Zimbabwe or something) during the initial installation process. When you do that, most if not all of the apps will not be present.
You legend, Samsung TVs are a nightmare for pre installed apps that can’t be deleted, I’ve had to left mine none set up to avoid it for now and just do everything off a fire stick.
I've mentioned this story on Chilli's channels comments section. But I will regale it here too. I once had a TVL Inspector tell me that I had a TV Aerial, therefore he had a legal right to enter the property to check for a TV. Whereupon not finding a TV, he noted I had a computer, and a bunch of BBC shows on DVD (official ones bought from HMV), he told he that because they were made by the BBC, I still needed a licence to watch them, and I had to 'sign here'. Naturally I refused to sign anything. this was going back to the mid 2000's.
The law was changed in the mid 90's I believe, at that time if you had a TV you had to have a license. It was changed because of TV's going Digital. BUT the GOON lied to you, even then they couldn't enter your property without your permission, He conned you M8.
@@trevormillar1576 my answer to that would be, it's just tv license not a radio license and the clue is in the title, therefore listening to radio is free, which it is! These goons are delusional 😂
The bottom line is NEVER OPEN THE DOOR TO ANYONE FROM TV LICENCING. NEVER INTERRACT WITH THEM THROUGH THE DOOR . NEVER GIVE ANY INFORMATION ABOUT TOUR IDENTITY . SAY NOTHING .
Thank you for sharing your legal expertise for free to assist strangers, that is really good of you and my wife and I thank you. The information about pre-loaded apps on TV’s and other devices is something I never would have thought about. If they saw a broadband router over my shoulder at the door flickering blue lights showing it’s switched on and receiving a broadband signal, would that be sufficient “evidence” to apply for a search warrant?
Great advice! I recently saw a VPN advert that said a subscriber could alter his/her location to anywhere in the world and watch TV programs anywhere. This, IMHO, begs the question, If someone altered their virtual location to a foreign country and watched live television in the UK from there on a mobile device, could they be prosecuted? BTW, I gave up watching live TV and buying newspapers three years ago because they're full of opinions rather than news.
this is a random comment, but I read a comment by a tech journalist in a paper magazine in about 1995, which finished with the sentence "and that's why we'll never see 16x speed cd drives". since then I've taken everything with a pinch of condiment. not the BBB, of course.
Surely a search warrant doesn't give them permission to go through your phone! I wouldn't open my phone for them, a warrant wouldn't be asking me to do that! The only way to deal with them is not to talk to them and close your door.
They would need legal agreement from the phone manufacturer as they hold the legal right to any original software installed on the phone, as to any you install they would still need permission from the app creator to, and let's be clear, access their software data!
Bingo. A warrant for entry into a property does not give them a right to access private devices. Not even the police can force you to open it up, even if they threaten to take it as evidence, refuse, get a lawyer to write up a nice right to claim letter and take Capita and the police to the cleaners. BBB talks a load of shit at times and sometimes seems to advise his audience in a non-argumentitive way. When in fact being stubborn and standing your ground is the BEST way.
Worth mentioning that they have a policy to never force entry. If you don't open the door even if they have a warrant and police present, they will go away and try again another time.
I found a brilliant way to avoid the trap. Don't pay your licence. Don't answer the door. Even when they come with a so called warrant. Just don't open the door.
I agree. Trouble is they would finally see people are not willing to pay and the subscriptions they do get wouldn't cover their costs. Therefore I believe they would look at other funding models such as putting it on everyone's phone or broadband bill so everyone will end up paying!
Yep. They know that people won’t want to pay for it so they won’t. They will then have a funding shortfall and they will then lose such talent as Gary Lineker and Zoe Ball. Shame. Best bet is to make add free subscription and total free but with ads. Pays you money and take your choice, but then they’d have to run it like a business earth than a jolly.
Black belt B, tv licensing is by capita, digital parking permits are capita, council tax in which they are trying to tie to tv license is ran by capita, utilities have capita tied to them and so is parking eye. Oooh what mess. Doctors surgeries and NHS, fire services, police and courts.
It us very simple -the law if England for centuries is that "the home of everyman is his castle absent a search warrant "So say nothing but No Thanks and shut the door .
Dont answer the door if you know its the TV licencing! Never ever give them your name or admit that you are the householder. Tell them to go away, ignore any threats. Write to them and remove their implied right of access! And letter sent to you put them back in the post box with 'no contract' written on it!
Good morning Mr Barrister, i wonder if you could take a look on the new laws regarding wood burners, i understand we are now liable for a fine from £300 to £1000 if you burn the wrong thing in the wrong place or burn anything at all, thank you for your videos they benefit us all
I'm quite curious as to how they will enforce this. I read that the smoke level must be below 3% compared to 5% previously. How could they even measure a 2% difference in smoke output. Like TVL, they have no right of entry without a warrant to test the moisture content of your wood or what type of coal you're using so no idea how they expect to issue on the spot fines.
Don’t burn the wrong things then. Burn seasoned hardwood and anthracite why would you want to burn anything else? People are seriously out here burning countertops thinking they are wood when they’re 50% plastic, imagine your next door neighbours kids got cancer because of burning highly toxic materials, if you are doing that you deserve to be fined.
This is a real issue with the licence but the worse bit is how people are contacted in away that sounds like pay up or else. I think you should reach out to the channels that are helping and do something with them to help better inform and educate people.
When they come to the door, ask them who they are and until they tell you then say no thank you and close the door. That's it. They're not supposed to be allowed to snoop in windows so if you don't communicate with them, they have no legally obtained information regarding your tv usage. One thing I would want to know is: If they obtained a search warrant from information gathered by looking through windows, is that a valid, legal warrant as it's been obtained via an illegal action?
They say they are the postman. It happened to me in the early 90’s. I got caught with a black and white portable TV. Once bitten twice shy. I do not watch TV anymore anyway. I would put a brick through the screen within 10 seconds with all the propaganda and diversity forced upon you.
@@Vile_Entity_3545 The rules have changed since the 90's when just owning a TV meant you had to have a TV license. Nowadays it's all about what you watch and not how you watch it!
Tell them you want their name, Date of birth, address and sexual orientation. Don't forget to ask them where they were born. If they don't want to answer you, why should you answer them? Simples innit!
In Germany if you own anything that can receive a radio or TV signal you are obliged to pay. No matter if you use it or not. Surprised this is not yet the case everywhere. They normally don't miss a trick.
@@Grizzly01-vr4pn I was alive at that time so saw it myself. A TV is a receiver not transmitting anything that the vans could pick up. It is extortion.
Aye fair comment but unfortunately there are far too many gullible people in the UK, people that don't stand up to their bully boy tactics, people that actually invite them in, these people have got to understand these characters that knock on your door asking if you have a TV license have no powers of arrest and certainly no right of entry into your home,shut the door on them, simples !!!
@@StooFras-TheFiresofHell. aye, I hardly even let my landlord onto the property 🤣. At the end of the day. It’s where you live. No one has right of access to your home! It’s the same with the British Gas people who’ve been forcing entry recently. It shows the state of where our country is atm. Where people can be taken advantage of by the government and big business. The tv licence is a scam! You’re paying for the BBC despite if you use it or not!
I find it extremely upsetting and violating that they can go through your privacy to check if you've been watching any live TV. I don't. So, in my case, do I have any grounds to seek compensation for my invasion of privacy? Thank-you for your channel!
Why do we accept this idea that we should pay for a TV license to watch live TV? If we're not using BBC equipment or infrastructure then what business is it of theirs or the government?
If I recall correctly, the duality of purpose precedent is CBS Songs Limited v Amstrad Consumer Electronics plc [1988] AC 1013. Just because you bought a computer that could record digital music on a disk did not mean that you had to be regarded as intending to do so.
There was an article, the other day, from the BBC that mentioned something about them making the BBC available on streaming services! I didn't get a chance to read it, unfortunately. But I'm now thinking that this could, possibly, be an underhand attempt to force people into thinking that they have to have a licence!
As I've said already, they'd be obliged legally to inform you prior to use of any said streaming service that you require a license otherwise they would be prosecutable under penalty of law by coercion!
There have been BBC videos on TH-cam, often appearing in the recommended videos feed. TH-cam isn't iPlayer, so isn't covered by the specific requirements to be licensed if you use or watch iPlayer. I also discovered that if you report every BBC video as 'Spam or Misleading', they soon stop appearing in your recommendations. You could also just hit 'do not recommend' option, but where is the fun in that?
I don’t have a tv & haven’t had one for many years, licensing authority’s had accepted this, though I recently got a letter saying they wished to check my house. Of course I’m fine with this as we have no tv & watch nothing made by the bbc. Just have a niggling worry they may come up with something so your advice is very gratefully received Thank you.✊♥️
Don't let them in your house! You have nothing to gain by engaging with them and there is a risk of incriminating yourself, even if you are totally innocent.
Julie. They’re not showing up for tea, coffee and to exchange pleasantries! They’re looking for evidence to incriminate you! Why would you let someone in, who’s whole job is trying to get you to pay a fine or get you in legal trouble. You haven’t even gotta answer the door to them.
I haven't paid the TV tax since 1984 I get hundreds of letters which go right to my shredder and I never open my door to them or engage in any conversations with these salesmen.
Note the TV Licensing sales staff aka Officers, Enforcers, inspectors are on strict target based commission/targets which means they have incentives to lie even going off and filling in forms stating you admitting to watching TV so the best option is to have zero contact, if they ever nock NEVER answer or confirm anything just close the door. Also BBB I believe (tell me if I'm wrong) but they have no authority to check mobile phones, computers etc due to not having RIPA permission. I'm sure BBB has milk in the fridge but I'm betting you don't have a cow in the garden. Also according to the BBC TV Licence internal documents (we have copies) they need three examples of proof before applying for a warrant meaning zero contact means that will never happen
Where can I find the correct info regarding you tube live tv channel broadcasts as it seems a very grey area.. Today they had live spacewalk from ISS which im told is also shown on NASA TV HotBird 13 east and available in UK ?
@@sydsaturn3337 in my old house i had a set of french doors at the front and one day they were open and i was spring cleaning with a music channel blaring out..the next thing i heard was "so you have got a tv then?"..the cnut inspector only stuck his head in through doors looking around the gaff without actually coming in with feet lol
Never let them into my property. I could easily watch catch up tv but I still do not because why would I? I'm quite happy watching TH-cam and Amazon Prime
Another great video BBB 👍 The question is why are the TV licensing ‘people’ so fixated to collecting/fines/prosecutions like some Religious Persecution?
Surely it would be cheaper to fire all the inspectors and just take the hit on those that watch without paying ? They let shoplifters just get on with it these days.
I find it quite disturbing that they will chase you at any cost cost ..... Shame they don't prosecute groomers with such gusto and vigour . 🏴
Can’t chase themselves
they do.
Prosecuting grooming gangs is a lot of effort though
Most of the establishment are pedos that is why
The BBC has long been established as a paedophile protection ring and a place where truth goes to die.
You don't have to prove you don't need a TV licence. They have to prove that you do need one.
Never do anything to assist them.
And never say anything that they might "purposely" misunderstand, manipulate, misrepresent or misconstrue, they're just as devious as the police
And video any and all visits.
Keep your gob shut. You are not obliged to talk to anyone.
They often lie. Just them being able to see a TV through a window tends to be enough for a warrant for some reason.
@@hippopotamus86 Possibly. Owning a Tv and watching it are different in Law. The scum cold callers usually get a conviction only if peopel admit to the offence. Anyone looking through my windows from my lawn " as my wife was partially dressed" will need dental work.
I've saved £3k by ditching my TV and not having a TV licence some 20 years ago. Missed it for a few months but now when I'm at a club or my parents and the TV is on I'm so glad I've saved that cash. The rubbish that goes for "entertainment" and the propaganda that passes for "news" is a joke.
I got rid license 2 years ago wish I did so many years earlier like yourself. 👍
I haven't missed live TV for years. I get all my news, weather, information and entertainment from TH-cam, and Rumble from around the world on subjects that interested me.
exacta mundo tv turns you into a brain dead apathetic moron its all doom and gloom and mainstream lies.
Why pay too be lied to, don't bother with any of bbc "news".
@@gingef5197 Are you allowed to watch youtube (without a license) as long as it's not live? thanks
We all know why the BBC doesn't want to employ a subscription model.
Why?
@@tuff4257 they know that people wouldn't pay
@@tuff4257
Because no one would subscribe to a corrupt business that are activists and we don't trust anymore.
@@tuff4257 I imagine the answer is "because many fewer people will pay it". What the OP might not appreciate is that the advantage of everyone paying is that the content is not subject to commercial forces; for example, children's TV is possible because no-one is counting up the revenue and saying it's not commercially viable. That's why BBC has it and why ITV doesn't.
Perhaps we should charge the BBC for sending TV signals through our properties and bodies . Those signals are entering without permission.
My body my choice, and I don't want to receive TV! 😁
Agreed.🥃
Don’t call them “inspectors or officers” they’re simply doorstep sellers.
Bullies are what I call them
Goons
There stooges come in two's very smelly
apparently pointing a camera at them is the quickest way to get rid of them, for some reason they dislike the way they operate being recorded
@@aleopardstail in that case iv covered on that basis
Any magistrate that issues a warrant based on the evidence of 'they have a phone' should be removed from office, it is beyond a stretch to interpretate owning a phone as 'evidence' of TV License evasion.
Absolutely! I own a car that could go faster than the speed limit , but that is not enough to give me a speeding ticket !
Saying they saw a phone is not evidence it's hearsay, also they are a private company for them to be able to get a search warrant is like me getting a search warrant to search my next door neighbors house because I said they stole my hedge trimmer.
@@bjrnolavlangvad3061 no but it might be prima facie evidence that you are using the car without a Road Fund Licence and you now have to register the fact that the car is kept off road. The simple answer is not to engage with them in any way -as soon as they say they say they are tv close the door .Anything you say WILL be used to your disadvantage -keeping you mouth firmly shut is entirely to your benefit .
Warrants are not issued anywhere near as often in Scotland because there, you actually need to convince a court official (Sheriff's Clerk or Procurator Fiscal) of the offence. In England and Wales, TVL merely send a electronic form into a centralised authority, stating they were told something, at such and such time and date. Whether the person 'spoken to' did say something or even someone else in the street has said something that might be vaguely construed as watching live TV then the form goes in and the majority get a warrant, via email.
I have a 9" kitchen knife in the drawer or on the ledge down there by the cooker - I haven't stabbed anyone with it yet but it does have the potential to be rammed into someone's chest for a Thursday evening disembowelment - are the police going to say "You were seen to be dicing an onion - but all axe murderers start out this way...., M'lud
Thanks for the tip about not letting them in. I was going to let TV Licence in, as I genuinely don't watch live TV. However the thought of them looking at my computer, or phone, and getting a search warrant. Then coming back and looking through my computer is a major invasion of privacy.
It’s very unlikely they will get a search warrant. Just say ‘no thanks’ and shut the door.
"very unlikely". I'm really convinced.
@@Suzie_saveourcountryshut the door??? Don't even open it
Good suggestion Andrew. With a ring doorbell there’s no need to open the door to anyone who you don’t know.
They will never get a warrant, no judge can issue a search warrent based on hearsay.
I've had no licence for 14 years. They came once and I declined their offer to inspect my appliances. They wrote a threatening letter which I ignored. After that I never heard from them again. So far I'm around £1500 better off. Do not let them in and do not engage with them.
12 years saving for a TV licence at present pricing I have saved over £2000, this must be killing their hateful campaign to terrorise people into paying for a licence, lol, I love the fact that so many are refusing to pay a TV licence now , I mean 159 a year increasing to 172 a year pays for my Netflix and most of the subscription for Disney and I feel I get much better value for my money due to not being forced to watch adverts.
Also, VPN gives me so much content. America and the uk are decades behind the quality of acting in most Asian countries, acting quality of videography, all is so fake on western shows now and netflix has enabled us to see how poorly we have been served up the crap we thought was so good at one point.
Never speak to them and never let them in.
Its utterly ridiculous that tv licensing can even apply for a search warrant to enter your home because of possible evidence of live or live recorded television.....and yet there is far worse crimes going on 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
maybe the police should use this tactic might arrest more crimanals
They rarely actually get a warrant and if they did it was almost certainly issued on false information i.e. lies. The goons depend far more on people self incrimination.
Thee can't get a warrant if they have no name
They can't.
NO NO, not "possible" evidence, it must be clear evidence..i.e you told them or you let them in. They are not allowed to look through windows so even if they see your tv on, its not admissible evidence. They will not get a LEGAL warrant without clear evidence so don't be fooled by their fake ipad "warrants" they aint legal no matter what the no nothing police say as they have no clue on even basic laws.
Just ignore all letters and if visited just say “No thanks” and close the door nothing more and your be fine. Do not engage in any conversation/debate do not let them in! Your be fine.
if rearly want to waste money for bbc save and send them all back returned to sender
Sound advice there Dan. 👍
You may wish to inform them that you are withdrawing the implied right of access for them and their company before you close the door on them.
@@yngndrw. that's not true and don't work.. that was a false narrative
@@yngndrw. you could but it’s unnecessary once they learn your not playing their game they will soon give up and move onto easier prey
ChilliJonCarne's channel talks exclusively about TV license and how to deal with inspection visits. Well worth checking out and learning from him.
Agreed
aye
he is good info
@Trixie K if you have seen his latest videos, he actually mentions you don’t have to tell them
@Trixie K I prefer to ring the TV licence agent's personally, I don't get any letter's apart from the 2 yearly letter to see if I'm still happy having no licence.. I've never had a knock at the door, obviously that doesn't mean I won't at some point in the next few years.. If you decide to go down the route of ignoring them, that may cause more hassle, more letters & more chance of a visit.. But do whatever you find best 😊
@Trixie K I do agree that a person shouldn't have to declare, but it is just an automated call which takes about 5mins, don't speak to anyone.. I guess I can't be doing with all the threatening letter's lol... I'm looking forward to my 1st house visit though if that ever may arise? 🤣 Thanks for the reply, all the best being licence free 🙂🙂
Simply don't ever let them into your house.
If the goons visit you at you're door, simply state that you are not interested and close the door.
I stopped paying for TV licensing when I realised it only applied to any BBC broadcastings, including radio. As I no longer own that kind of washing machine, I feel more independent with my free thinking. I don't feel brainwashed by media perceptions.
Not bothered with TV for 13 years, but I remember that fantastic feeling 😀
of not watching all that B.S. Enjoy your freedom!
✌♥️🇬🇧
@@lesallison9047 same here. Not quite as long, but long enough to see the scam, corruption and brainwashing that has been inflicted on the people.
It doesn't just apply to BBC broadcasts, it's any live broadcast. So if you only ever watched shopping channels, you'd still need one.
@@davidspear9790 that maybe your truth, but realistically the BBC gets their funding from TV licensing. The others are funded by advertising and sponsorship. TV license is only for BBC radio, TV and iPlayer streaming.
We are programmed to believe it's all terrestrial channels.
The revenue from TV Licensing funds only the BBC, yes, but you are required a licence to watch *any* channel if it’s broadcast live. Unfair, but worth knowing.
They are not inspectors, they are door to door salesmen for Capita, I believe, and receive a commission for "persuading" you to buy a licence. All the people I know who have been prosecuted for lack of a TV licence have engaged with these people and allowed them into their homes without a warrant.
99% of convictions are through confessions!
Most of the doorstep tv licensing I have found are those on parole, probation or Ex inmates of HMPS.
@@iamrocketray yep
i went to 3 university, 3 times in my life, ( long time ago 80s )
each time in the first week
we were taught the same thing about arrests and interrogation
never confess to anything
and never say anything to the police at all
as 99% of convictions are through self confessions!
@@ClaireWill71uk
_Hardly surprising!_
Isn't it funny how buying a TVL will make everything alright, where as up to that point you have been suspected of breaking the law?
I want the main channel providers to have an option to block material that requires a TV licence from their apps. It should be very simple to implement, and even a selling point for their own streaming services.
Here's a thing, even if you watched live TV on SKY etc remember, the BBC DOES NOT OWN THE AIR WAVES transmitted by those companies otherwise they would be legally obliged to inform you of the requirement to be licensed in order to watch them!
Clearly that's not the case, nor has it ever been as far as I know! imagine the lawsuit/Court Case if the BBC tried prosecuting those SUPER LARGE corporations, I don't think so, anymore than trying to prove you are, or have been 🤔🤨😏☺️😉
I agree.
Also the 'live TV channels' that the BBC licence demand, you the publc pay for,...ITV..live TH-cam..ect.. should demmand a cut of the license payment.
Many years ago I upset one of the goons, this was before TH-cam etc. were even things.
Came to my house after I'd ignored loads of letters. Got told no TV here, I allowed him to look since the catch you out traps didn't exist then, no TV was the end of it.
He got very grumpy that I'd not responded to the letters to tell them that.
My response was, I don't need a licence, I can't be forced to buy a stamp to tell you so, none of the letters had a postage paid return envelope & I'm not obliged to spend any money to not have a TV.
He was clearly very grumpy & frustrated when he left.
And then you pulled your TV out from the cupboard and started watching it again?
@@hannahjames3180 Would have been difficult, given I didn't ever own one when I lived at that address.
Dunno why he got grumpy. Surely you're keeping the gimp in a job.
@@beardyface8492 I remember once TV licence bloke showed up at someone's house.
Asked if they had a TV licence, "No. I don't need one as I don't have a TV." Then the EastEnders theme tune could be heard coming from the living room!
When I 1st got my own property in the 1980’s I couldn’t afford to buy a TV and got bombarded by the threatening letters, I eventually sent one of their letters back [without a stamp so that they would have to pay] saying I don’t understand why you are complaining that I haven’t responded to your letters when I have no legal requirement so to do, and signed it ‘the legal occupier’
Over 35years on and I have never corresponded with them since, I have never had a TV licence, all of their letters go in the shredder, if they knock on the doors I don’t talk just close the door.
I have never had a problem because I don’t give then any legal purchase what so ever.
There are millions worldwide who watch the bbc via a satellite dish and a freeview box ( so they watch live tv as well). Why is it UK residents have to pay, but for the ROW it’s free?
They kept harassing my friend and one day they phoned him to tell him they were going to come to his flat with the Police and that if he didn't let them in, the Police would arrest him. I took the phone and explained the law and they never turned up. I've seen TV Licence goons do some borderline illegal stuff when trying to gain entry into a property. Banging on the door and shouting "open up Police!" and then deny all knowledge once the door is opened and say "No, I said 'open up, please'". I've seen them come to a door, knock and tell the escorting Police to stay by the road and then when the person opens the door, they say "Those two Police Officers are going to arrest you if you don't grant me access to check your TV" knowing full well the Police were simply there to escort them to request access and make sure no violence took place. I've even seen them manipulate two Police Officers into forcing the person to let the TV Licence scum into the property and when they got inside, they turned his TV on, switched BBC One on using the TV's built in Freeview and said "Your TV is literally playing live TV as we speak and was when we walked in. You owe TV Licence". I despise the TV Licence and anyone who works for them.
This is why I have a ring door bell, so I can tell them to bog off whilst not disturbing my TV show :)
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seriously, if investigators spent this amount of effort in investigating serious offences like rape, murder, robbery, then crime would actually come down!
100%, it boils my blood that these practices, which are reported to target the elderly and vulnerable just trying to go about their lives in peace, are given the time of day by law enforcement, yet so much worse gets ushered under the rug
They are only employed by the BBC to investigate if you are watching TV without a licence - Observe and report - they have no other lawful powers
I find it completely staggering that anybody actually watches TV anymore.
I haven't had a licence for 25 years, and I miss it like I miss haemorrhoids...
Thank you for this, I feel vindicated. I cancelled my BBCTV licence in 2020, had my aerial disconnected and have been very vigilant since. I only watch streams (apart form BBCiPlayer of course), and TH-cam. Before I cancelled my licence I checked the Communications Act 2003 just to confirm what I could watch. I have not looked back, considering the amount of crap churned out by the BBC these days. It is unfortunate that I can’t watch livestreams on TH-cam but it’s not that inconvenient to watch the replay. I feel vindicated because I have pointed this out in several comment sections to people (in livestream replays) and the usual answer (sometimes rude) is ‘Well it’s TH-cam - its not the BBC’. I’ve given up doing that now - if you don’t want to pay the licence fee, you need to take responsibility and check out what you can legally watch in the UK. The sooner the BBC has its charter removed - the better.
Yup. I really enjoy watching Le Mans 24 hour, but I always wait for the youtube video release several dayss later instead of live watching it. It's annoying but at least I won't get done by the butt munchers at Crapita/BBC.
@@RogueWraith909 if they don’t have a warrant to search your house there’s no way for them to know…
You can watch live streams on TH-cam, Twitch etc, as long as they do not also stream via conventional means that require the maintenance of aerial or radio networks. Your Internet connection is provided to you via a private company that has to maintain these networks. The whole point of this tax is to provide BBC with funds outside of adverts etc, to enable the production of original content and have one source of news that won't hide behind a paywall and should technically be impartial (which they failed completely and could be the basis of a massive lawsuit if people agree to do so), but most importantly maintain the network, be it cable, radio or now digital, to stream said content, regardless of who provides it and if they gain any additional funds from this tax (see other TV Stations).
That is the spirit of this tax and it's a noble one (if the internet goes offline for example and you need access to information). However, since BBC is politically too far to the left, invests the money into productions some of us at least don't care about, over pays for some of their employes and spends a ton on fancy studio equipment, and went as far as to hire a private company that pays their agents per customer "persuaded" this tax needs to be eliminate. And by the looks of it, it will in 2025.
We don't know what crap is on BBC because we don't watch any.
You say in your message ACT,it is not lawfull untill you make it so, we live under COMMON LAW not ACTS
In Australia we don't pay I think this is outrageous.
Canada is the same
In Australia, you do pay. The ABC is funded by taxation (i.e. money that's taken from you). It's just that it's not a separate itemised charge.
We pay taxes here in the uk too so why is that not funding the bbc?
Not answering the door or just saying no thank you and closing the door when you realise it is them has always worked just fine for me.
Ah saying "no thank you" and closing a door. It's so English! And it can be used for so many unwanted door people in all kinds of situations!
This raises a good point regarding who has right of entry into your house/ onto your property. That might be worth covering in another video.
Agreed. It is grimly fascinating who CAN enter your property without warrant 😯
Especially electricity companies.
Nobody has free right of entry to your home unless a warrant is issued by a court
@@tomalex4806 I'm sure that HM C&E used to be able to, but I don't know if that's still the case.
TV goons have NO right of entry, they like to call themselves "enforcement"...they are NOT...they are merely salesmen.
They need your name for a prosecution. Say nothing and politely close the door. I have seen these courts in action. The judge never believes the householder, try and remember that.
That's what I was wondering...I also thought they needed your name to prosecute you.
I informed TVL nine months ago my elderly mother was in a Care Home and the property was empty.
But this has not deterred them from sending threatening letters, some in bold red type and also "You are under Investigation"
They never give up and what a waste of resources.
It's a disgrace how they go after the elderly like that, scum bags
The TVL has limitless amounts of money to send threatening letters out, I have had hundreds, they mean nothing - they just go in the bin.
Listening to this educated chap explain the myriad of corner cases on topic clearly shows the law is a complete mess in this area and not fit for purpose in the modern age.
Solution: don’t invite ANYONE you don’t know into your home!!!! Simple!!!!
There was a comment in a TV licence video where the commenter reported that they allowed a Licence inspector in, I believe they were asked if they knew how to use the equipment to receive TV, when they replied yes, that was used as evidence to successully prosecute them.
As BlackBelt said do not let them in, and do not engage in converstion with them.
do not even confirm your name, without a warrant they have exactly the same legal power as any other door to door salesman - you can also ask them to leave your property, easier to ignore them, if they persist you can right and withdraw the implied right of access they claim, and you don't even have to give your name - they are then technically trespassing if they come back
good luck getting anywhere with a prosecution for it though
@@aleopardstail Don't revoke their implied right of access, it just gives them something to use against you to gain a warrant. I agree with you that you shouldn't even give them your name though, after all, what do they need a name for? It's the property that's covered by a licence, not the person living there. They only want your name because they can't drag your house to the courtroom
They are not inspectors they are only scummy salesmen 😫👎
@Trixie K I know, that's why I wrote "Don't revoke their implied right of access, it just gives them something to use against you"
@Trixie K yes but the BBC has a massive reach, it's quite likely that their word carries more weight than yours.
Never let one of these TV licence people into your property or engage with them at all. Just say no thank you and shut the door.
I’ve always wondered how it could be proved in court that you were watching iPlayer without a license. It would mean that they would have to admit that they had hacked into your wi-fi signal which would also be illegal under the Interception of telecommunications act.
When a tv license doorstep seller turned up i simply asked him for proof of business insurance on the car he parked outside my house it was very funny how he left fast than he came
Completely draconian situation of a 'forced' subscription service. How can anyone be prosecuted for watching TV broadcasts, or choosing not to?? Utterly ridiculous!
The UK get what they vote for in general elections.
What Party will ever say they will abolish it when the time comes. I'm sure any party who would see the TV tax abolished would win the General Election in record numbers.
The TV licence is Extortion - Forcing you to pay for something you do not want.
Had a creepy guy out from TV licensing yesterday. He only showed ID when asked and I couldn't read his vehicle number plate cos it was so dirty, a criminal offence which carries a fine of £1000. I've written to them saying don't send criminals to my house, I've already told you that I don't need a TV licence, if you continue to threaten me and send dodgy people to my house it will be a course of conduct amounting to harassment and do they understand? I refuse to use the online form as they want you to tick a box saying "I understand" and I most certainly do not. I wouldn't watch the BBC if you paid me. Most stuff on TV is woke shite and the ads drive me insane. Is it so hard for them to believe that some of us have better things to do?
When visiting my moms the other day and look for something to watch, i could not get over how much advertising there is. We should not be paying a tv licence they should be paying us to watch the crap they put on.
Also, the pushing of minority groups, from races to disabled to alternative sexual preferences, or just people who enjoy dressing up as the opposite sex. Then the worst was before the rugby, 5 damn adverts for a boy that has one arm and plays rugby. i mean come on that was a mockery of the disabled.
I prefer watching what i want without the disturbing forcing of ideas on me and the adverts that are so damn crappy.
But the fun is coming, now so many have put a value of around 15 for advertising, that means in a court i can now show what value they put on my eyeballs watching their advertising. I am sure very soon, as advertising becomes more and more invasive, some big organisation is going to argue this with top lawyers and force them to pay us that £15 to watch their advertising.
Google with their greed has ensured this has become a very hot topic and human rights groups will jump at the chance to hurt google for their abusive behaviour.
I also refused to trick the “ I understand “ box. They are so slippery
Im a gamer and do not watch TV or use the apps online. I once let TV licence people into my house to prove I only have a PC setup in my living room and the TV was literally a decoration not plugged in and did not have a TV signal. I received a letter a week later telling me I had to cough up for a TV licence...Dont ever let these people into your house and just ignore them they dont care.
Good video thanks for properly spelling this out.
As i have said numerous times on numerous other posts ...DON'T ANSWER THE FRIGGIN DOOR ! weather you have a licence or not,let them keep coming.
OMG and I thought I lived in a democracy
You've been fooled like the rest who think the uk is not a dictatorship.
I gave my TV away to a charity shop in 2014 and I have never missed it, even though I informed the TV licencing people numerous times that I did not possess a TV I still received scores of what only can be described as threatening letters over a period of 6 years. I eventually got tired of the constant barrage of threatening letters and went to see a lawyer about what they could do about what I classified as harassment.
I live in Scotland and we have our own separate legal system, however, TV licencing is devolved to the UK Government. My lawyer sent them a letter instructing them to cease and desist their harassment and I have not received a letter from them in over 2 years.
If they were to find history of live TV usage on a laptop, or mobile phone, how could they prove it hadn't been watched in another premise that in fact was licensed?
@trixiek942 This!!! BBB was talking out his arse with this video. "You'd have to show them your device" pffft.
Yes just help the authorities to prosecute you - BlackBeltBellend
GPS info. It's on most machines anyway.
@@otterplays8156 You don't have to show them anything!! You don't even have to speak to them! FFS you are not even obliged to answer the door.
@@davidripley2916 True. However, Laptops are usually used on an ISP - easier to track it down. Phones can use data - still I suppose they will look into ownership of device and anyone else who had access to it. The onus will no doubt be on the ISP bill payer to prove otherwise.
If they turn up with a warrant you can just walk out they then can't interview you or report you for an offence. Come back 4 hours later.
Bottom line, if they come calling, ask who they are, politely. When they announce "TV Licensing" etc ... respond with "No thankyou" and close the door. End of!
So how anyone can look at your phone without your permission is a new one to me. Seems like a big brother tactic that will come back to bite them !
This TVL claim is the same as saying I am always a suspect of any crime because I have a car and knives in my kitchen.
You avoid all of this by closing the door in their face.
Bang😊😊😊
@@cliffordbuttle4529
... In the face!
Oh my god, you don't even open the bloody door...just pretend to yourself that the door is well and truly welded shut 🙄
Thank you for your simple explanation on this from a law point of view ❤ it’s nice to see a lawyer who has got the uk people’s back on these sort of matters 👍🏻
If you refuse to interact with these people even to the point of verifying your name there is very little they can do and YOU DO NOT HAVE TO ANSWER ANY OF THEIR QUESTIONS !
Thank you for your advises to us, the public.
It is hard to get my head around this. There was something similar in my country as well, but they had realized ages ago, that the technology and people's habits taken a huge turn, and this approach of financing any kind of tv sation makes no sense anymore. It looks, that the UK refuses to follow the trends, which is quite weird...
our country is a bit backward in lots of ways, despite leading the world many years ago.😂
Yeah most of us wouldn't give a toss if the BBC just do what itv do and goes commercial but the BBC do everything in their power (other than quality programming) to stay going everything in their M.O is tricking you into believing you must have one.
So many people are cancelling their TV licence, me included, sooner or later they will have to go to a paid streaming service
@@Slash1066 Or be lazy and slap the bill onto everyone as a tax added to utility or internet bills (which I hope would result in some backlash).
The best advice to follow is to simply close your door once the person identifies themselves as being from the BBC. I have legally cancelled my TV licence but I get monthly letters threatening prosecution, all addressed to the Legal Occupier.
Bin them, don't reply, simple, 😃👍
If it's to the 'Legal Occupier' does that count? Surely it should be by name?
Never had a telly to start with. Mental illness dosen't help what with tellys being a Bread n Circus machine and propaganda influencer rolled into one, plus the threat of fines or jail just screams NO !
@@jack1d1XB OR put "return to sender" or "legal occupier not known at this address" and pop them into a post box. they then have to pay the return postage. I saved up 20 Threat O Grams and did the above, they have stopped sending me letters now BUT I am expecting a Goon to knock soon.
@@Beatlefan67 They know my name because I once filled out the no license needed form, when it came up for renewal i decided not to, After all I don't inform the police that I don't need a shotgun license. Anyway everafter it's addressed to the LEGAL OCCUPIER.
If you get a knock from a licensing goon, simply ignore them. If you don’t realise, & you open the door simply say, no thank you, have a great day, then close the door. Shred any mail that you receive. Job done.
Dont even bother to watch TV....ive been 15 years without
Best advice, served me well. Never answer the door, during the day, unless somebody is expected.
Dont abuse the system ,dont watch live TV, dont let them in ,dont talk to them ..😏
That was great,, thank you for this advice. I thought I was safe by not having a TV and not using the other devices to watch live TV. But now I can see it's much safer not to let them in at all.
Tell the TV license salesmen, “No thanks” and shut the door.
They don't deserve the NO THANKS! just slam the door in their faces!
Used to work in the water industry and about 4 times a year the postman would bring to my office, sometimes up to 100 letters from TVL that could not be delivered. These would have been addressed to small glass fibre control kiosks, usually in the middle of nowhere or on the roadside verge. I assumed TVL got the address from the land registry and were dumb enough to think that they were houses, they got filed in the round filing cabinet, although I'd have liked to see their sales people trying to find them.
Dear Sir.
Thankyou as always for your thorough easy to understand information relating to TV ( I reluctantly have one!)Licences etc; pretty much anything & everything you can think of. Love your videos. Where would we all be without you!!! Thankyou so much for all what you do:-)
A workaround for the TV apps is to select a different country (like Zimbabwe or something) during the initial installation process. When you do that, most if not all of the apps will not be present.
You legend, Samsung TVs are a nightmare for pre installed apps that can’t be deleted, I’ve had to left mine none set up to avoid it for now and just do everything off a fire stick.
I've mentioned this story on Chilli's channels comments section. But I will regale it here too.
I once had a TVL Inspector tell me that I had a TV Aerial, therefore he had a legal right to enter the property to check for a TV.
Whereupon not finding a TV, he noted I had a computer, and a bunch of BBC shows on DVD (official ones bought from HMV), he told he that because they were made by the BBC, I still needed a licence to watch them, and I had to 'sign here'.
Naturally I refused to sign anything.
this was going back to the mid 2000's.
This is all referencing to [ Live ] transmissions, not pre recorded, so your good, 😃👍
The law was changed in the mid 90's I believe, at that time if you had a TV you had to have a license. It was changed because of TV's going Digital. BUT the GOON lied to you, even then they couldn't enter your property without your permission, He conned you M8.
What a joker that capita person was. Properly stretching it there 🤣
Capital tells its goons to tell people they need a licence for a radio or music centre.
@@trevormillar1576 my answer to that would be, it's just tv license not a radio license and the clue is in the title, therefore listening to radio is free, which it is! These goons are delusional 😂
The bottom line is NEVER OPEN THE DOOR TO ANYONE FROM TV LICENCING.
NEVER INTERRACT WITH THEM THROUGH THE DOOR .
NEVER GIVE ANY INFORMATION ABOUT TOUR IDENTITY .
SAY NOTHING .
Can I get a warrant to inspect someone's home if I suspect they have my property? No.
Thank you for sharing your legal expertise for free to assist strangers, that is really good of you and my wife and I thank you. The information about pre-loaded apps on TV’s and other devices is something I never would have thought about. If they saw a broadband router over my shoulder at the door flickering blue lights showing it’s switched on and receiving a broadband signal, would that be sufficient “evidence” to apply for a search warrant?
Great advice! I recently saw a VPN advert that said a subscriber could alter his/her location to anywhere in the world and watch TV programs anywhere. This, IMHO, begs the question, If someone altered their virtual location to a foreign country and watched live television in the UK from there on a mobile device, could they be prosecuted? BTW, I gave up watching live TV and buying newspapers three years ago because they're full of opinions rather than news.
@trixiek942 Thanks. I thought there might be some difficulty there.
this is a random comment, but I read a comment by a tech journalist in a paper magazine in about 1995, which finished with the sentence "and that's why we'll never see 16x speed cd drives". since then I've taken everything with a pinch of condiment. not the BBB, of course.
Really great information, I thought I was clued up to TV TAX rules, never thought about a mobile phone, Excellent advice!
Surely a search warrant doesn't give them permission to go through your phone! I wouldn't open my phone for them, a warrant wouldn't be asking me to do that! The only way to deal with them is not to talk to them and close your door.
Against your human rights to expect you to help in your own prosecution.
They would need legal agreement from the phone manufacturer as they hold the legal right to any original software installed on the phone, as to any you install they would still need permission from the app creator to, and let's be clear, access their software data!
Bingo. A warrant for entry into a property does not give them a right to access private devices. Not even the police can force you to open it up, even if they threaten to take it as evidence, refuse, get a lawyer to write up a nice right to claim letter and take Capita and the police to the cleaners.
BBB talks a load of shit at times and sometimes seems to advise his audience in a non-argumentitive way. When in fact being stubborn and standing your ground is the BEST way.
A warrant doesn't mean they can enter your home. The warrant requires consent.
@Trixie K thanks, got any links to support this? Ta.
Brilliant advice as usual. Thank you B B B
Thank you for very clear advice and unambiguous suggestions. Much appreciated.
Its about time it was a subscription service
Worth mentioning that they have a policy to never force entry. If you don't open the door even if they have a warrant and police present, they will go away and try again another time.
And it's nothing to do with the police.
Six years legally licence free yesterday, wouldn't watch tv even if it was free.
Helpfully clarifying of subtleties. Thanks.
Thank you BBB
I found a brilliant way to avoid the trap. Don't pay your licence. Don't answer the door. Even when they come with a so called warrant. Just don't open the door.
@Trixie K I thought posting it through the door could still be done and it's effective?
The quicker they make BBC a subscription service the better.
i think they will go the tax every one like with germany win win for bbc and swamp rats in Parliament
I agree. Trouble is they would finally see people are not willing to pay and the subscriptions they do get wouldn't cover their costs. Therefore I believe they would look at other funding models such as putting it on everyone's phone or broadband bill so everyone will end up paying!
Yep. They know that people won’t want to pay for it so they won’t. They will then have a funding shortfall and they will then lose such talent as Gary Lineker and Zoe Ball. Shame.
Best bet is to make add free subscription and total free but with ads. Pays you money and take your choice, but then they’d have to run it like a business earth than a jolly.
Black belt B, tv licensing is by capita, digital parking permits are capita, council tax in which they are trying to tie to tv license is ran by capita, utilities have capita tied to them and so is parking eye. Oooh what mess. Doctors surgeries and NHS, fire services, police and courts.
It us very simple -the law if England for centuries is that "the home of everyman is his castle absent a search warrant "So say nothing but No Thanks and shut the door .
@@ronnieince4568 it's not as simple as shutting the door it's not about tv but the parking permits. Crooked to the core.
I've always hated monopoly.
Capita is one of the most evil, money grabbing, companies in the UK and most of their contracts are Governmental.
Capita has also been a large part of the dodgy and not fit for purpose disability assessment procedures.
I don't understand why they don't include this tv license into the taxes
As always an excellent educational video from BBB.
As he said, he's here for all of us to understand the law, and long may it continue BBB.
Shame he doesn't cover Scottish Law too, as this kind of TVL scam is much harder for them North of the border.
Dont answer the door if you know its the TV licencing! Never ever give them your name or admit that you are the householder. Tell them to go away, ignore any threats. Write to them and remove their implied right of access! And letter sent to you put them back in the post box with 'no contract' written on it!
Good morning Mr Barrister, i wonder if you could take a look on the new laws regarding wood burners, i understand we are now liable for a fine from £300 to £1000 if you burn the wrong thing in the wrong place or burn anything at all, thank you for your videos they benefit us all
I'm quite curious as to how they will enforce this. I read that the smoke level must be below 3% compared to 5% previously. How could they even measure a 2% difference in smoke output. Like TVL, they have no right of entry without a warrant to test the moisture content of your wood or what type of coal you're using so no idea how they expect to issue on the spot fines.
@@an740ny they explicitly state not including outdoor BBQ's or bonfires!
Don’t burn the wrong things then. Burn seasoned hardwood and anthracite why would you want to burn anything else? People are seriously out here burning countertops thinking they are wood when they’re 50% plastic, imagine your next door neighbours kids got cancer because of burning highly toxic materials, if you are doing that you deserve to be fined.
@@123ChrisG sigh.....infact a very huge sigh.
@@123ChrisG bedwetter
The thing is if you want certain stuff on your tv you purchase it…. It all mounts up then the licence on top 🤯
It’s like a money grab
Thank you for this.
As always, perfectly explained. Many thanks! 👍
This is a real issue with the licence but the worse bit is how people are contacted in away that sounds like pay up or else. I think you should reach out to the channels that are helping and do something with them to help better inform and educate people.
When they come to the door, ask them who they are and until they tell you then say no thank you and close the door.
That's it.
They're not supposed to be allowed to snoop in windows so if you don't communicate with them, they have no legally obtained information regarding your tv usage.
One thing I would want to know is: If they obtained a search warrant from information gathered by looking through windows, is that a valid, legal warrant as it's been obtained via an illegal action?
They say they are the postman. It happened to me in the early 90’s. I got caught with a black and white portable TV.
Once bitten twice shy. I do not watch TV anymore anyway. I would put a brick through the screen within 10 seconds with all the propaganda and diversity forced upon you.
@@Vile_Entity_3545 bullshit
The police routinely get warrants on perjured evidence. You will never see one of them facing charges
@@Vile_Entity_3545 The rules have changed since the 90's when just owning a TV meant you had to have a TV license. Nowadays it's all about what you watch and not how you watch it!
Tell them you want their name, Date of birth, address and sexual orientation. Don't forget to ask them where they were born.
If they don't want to answer you, why should you answer them?
Simples innit!
In Germany if you own anything that can receive a radio or TV signal you are obliged to pay. No matter if you use it or not. Surprised this is not yet the case everywhere. They normally don't miss a trick.
*_Germany is not as much of a democracy as the British think it is._*
That is exactly the same in UK. If you can receive TV broadcasts you need a licence whether you are watching it or not.
@@ewanbaxter9199 No, that is not the case. Please keep up.
@@Grizzly01-vr4pn I was alive at that time so saw it myself. A TV is a receiver not transmitting anything that the vans could pick up. It is extortion.
@@ewanbaxter9199 Eh? Your reply makes little sense in the context of your first comment or my response to you.
Excellent advice. Thank you !
I always get the letters, I never respond. I dont even watch live tv.
I’m not giving them details. N I’m defo not letting them in to check.
Aye fair comment but unfortunately there are far too many gullible people
in the UK, people that don't stand up to their bully boy tactics, people that
actually invite them in, these people have got to understand these characters
that knock on your door asking if you have a TV license have no powers
of arrest and certainly no right of entry into your home,shut the door on them, simples !!!
@@StooFras-TheFiresofHell. all they got is a list of house who have a license and those that don't... just tell them to jog the fuck on
@@StooFras-TheFiresofHell. aye, I hardly even let my landlord onto the property 🤣.
At the end of the day. It’s where you live. No one has right of access to your home! It’s the same with the British Gas people who’ve been forcing entry recently.
It shows the state of where our country is atm. Where people can be taken advantage of by the government and big business.
The tv licence is a scam! You’re paying for the BBC despite if you use it or not!
I have a TV licence as I love hunting tvs
I find it extremely upsetting and violating that they can go through your privacy to check if you've been watching any live TV. I don't. So, in my case, do I have any grounds to seek compensation for my invasion of privacy? Thank-you for your channel!
Why do we accept this idea that we should pay for a TV license to watch live TV?
If we're not using BBC equipment or infrastructure then what business is it of theirs or the government?
This video leads you to think that a TV licence inspector with a warrant can access your phone or laptop, they most certainly cannot do this at all
If I recall correctly, the duality of purpose precedent is CBS Songs Limited v Amstrad Consumer Electronics plc [1988] AC 1013. Just because you bought a computer that could record digital music on a disk did not mean that you had to be regarded as intending to do so.
There was an article, the other day, from the BBC that mentioned something about them making the BBC available on streaming services! I didn't get a chance to read it, unfortunately. But I'm now thinking that this could, possibly, be an underhand attempt to force people into thinking that they have to have a licence!
As I've said already, they'd be obliged legally to inform you prior to use of any said streaming service that you require a license otherwise they would be prosecutable under penalty of law by coercion!
There have been BBC videos on TH-cam, often appearing in the recommended videos feed. TH-cam isn't iPlayer, so isn't covered by the specific requirements to be licensed if you use or watch iPlayer. I also discovered that if you report every BBC video as 'Spam or Misleading', they soon stop appearing in your recommendations. You could also just hit 'do not recommend' option, but where is the fun in that?
The BBC IPlayer is the only streaming service you need a TV license for!
I don’t have a tv & haven’t had one for many years, licensing authority’s had accepted this, though I recently got a letter saying they wished to check my house.
Of course I’m fine with this as we have no tv & watch nothing made by the bbc.
Just have a niggling worry they may come up with something so your advice is very gratefully received Thank you.✊♥️
Don't let them in your house!
You have nothing to gain by engaging with them and there is a risk of incriminating yourself, even if you are totally innocent.
Good advice Hayd, they have no right to access your home. They are not the police and even police require a warrant.
Don't even respond to their letters.
The 'enforcement officers' are paid on commission, so don't let them in..
Julie. They’re not showing up for tea, coffee and to exchange pleasantries! They’re looking for evidence to incriminate you!
Why would you let someone in, who’s whole job is trying to get you to pay a fine or get you in legal trouble.
You haven’t even gotta answer the door to them.
I haven't paid the TV tax since 1984 I get hundreds of letters which go right to my shredder and I never open my door to them or engage in any conversations with these salesmen.
Note the TV Licensing sales staff aka Officers, Enforcers, inspectors are on strict target based commission/targets which means they have incentives to lie even going off and filling in forms stating you admitting to watching TV so the best option is to have zero contact, if they ever nock NEVER answer or confirm anything just close the door.
Also BBB I believe (tell me if I'm wrong) but they have no authority to check mobile phones, computers etc due to not having RIPA permission. I'm sure BBB has milk in the fridge but I'm betting you don't have a cow in the garden.
Also according to the BBC TV Licence internal documents (we have copies) they need three examples of proof before applying for a warrant meaning zero contact means that will never happen
Where can I find the correct info regarding you tube live tv channel broadcasts as it seems a very grey area.. Today they had live spacewalk from ISS which im told is also shown on NASA TV HotBird 13 east and available in UK ?
@@sydsaturn3337 thought you loved the propaganda broadcast corporation lol
@@sydsaturn3337 in my old house i had a set of french doors at the front and one day they were open and i was spring cleaning with a music channel blaring out..the next thing i heard was "so you have got a tv then?"..the cnut inspector only stuck his head in through doors looking around the gaff without actually coming in with feet lol
@@saintdon4461 you mean the Bolshevik Bourgeoisie Corporation . hardly lol I thought you loved Murdoch vision
@@saintdon4461 That actually trespass , did you boot him out or say sorry i'll buy a licence lol
Never let them into my property. I could easily watch catch up tv but I still do not because why would I? I'm quite happy watching TH-cam and Amazon Prime
Another great video BBB 👍
The question is why are the TV licensing ‘people’ so fixated to collecting/fines/prosecutions like some Religious Persecution?
Its a business
money , money , money .
Surely it would be cheaper to fire all the inspectors and just take the hit on those that watch without paying ? They let shoplifters just get on with it these days.