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People think that saying "VST in a box" is derogatory, that's actually why its so great! Keep saying it because the Juno-X is in GREAT COMPANY! The Waldorf Iridium, The Novation Summit, The Nord Wav2! All very powerful and very awesome! I love quality digital synths. I don't love sound design with a mouse or being forced to upgrade a computer every other year. Great job Roland!!🏆🏆🏆
The Iridium definitely, but the Summit?? Nah that's actually true analog filters and envelopes. These new Roland's are all vst which is fine enough if you only like Zen core. I've heard many reviewers saying the System 8 sounds better and closer to the originals than the Jupiter X and the Juno X.
This sounds and looks awesome. I am very glad that modern Roland finally realized that the interfaces and proper outputs of musical instruments matter as much as their sound engine.
Same here! I preordered one last night. I love analog gear and digital the same. All the people hating on this synth have completely missed the point. If it sounds good, it sounds good! I can’t wait to get this thing hooked up to my live rig. It’ll be replacing a JDXI. 🤘🏻
I like it despite the argument that it’s an expensive controller for VST. Perhaps Roland or Behringer could release analog reissues that are direct copies. As a stand-alone unit, I think it packs a lot (similar to Jupiter X) and has a great vibe. If you already have the originals then maybe this isn’t your cup of tea. Looks gig and studio ready to me. The UI is cool.
Super impressed with this synth, I have a Jupiter X but this one sounds too good. Fantastic demo specially like the vocoder patch...Mind blowing! I love this synth...Great Job Roland ❤️
Really impressed too here about this machine. It's like more than three synths on a unique machine -and Roland is saying that the combined engine of 106-60 is new too.
@Cortana Zeke we’re not really sure about this -could be a new combo for this time. But Zen-Core compatibility forces things to be the same, that’s true
@@mrbeats7434 to be honest I don’t have the time I would like to use it. It’s just sitting there and only used about 4 times. I might have to sell it 🥹🥹
@@mrbeats7434 i also was at that point phantom or juno and i got the juno because i hate endless menu scrolling. On the juno you can change a lot of the tone with the knobs on the front
The Juno G actually packed a pretty in depth synth engine, that being the Roland XR/Fantom X engine. While it lacked a number of Roland's current Zen engine features, most notably in areas of VA, FM, and 3 band EQ per partial, it actually exceeded Roland's current Gen in arguably two key areas. 1. It carried a greater amount of routing "Struct(s)"ures. So patches could be set into numerous single osc to single filter OR dual osc fed into dual filters in serial configurations. There were also numerous ring modulation and Oscillator "boost" functions that could be done within some of the "Structs". 2. While by no means extensive, the engine did feature a rather basic and useful Granular capability for Osc. Basically, loaded (particularly user created) waves could be tempo locked for auto real-time time stretching and the time stretching algorithm employed was pretty darn good with often up to 3 octaves able to be achieved. So, want to use a sampled wave that had some sort of tempo related action occurring (LFO sweeps, percussion, or what have you) as an Oscillator for further synthesis? Not only not a problem on the Juno G, but up to 4 such Osc could be used simultaneously. Another area of worthy note here is various interesting granular synthesis effects could be achieved by offsetting the root/base tempo of waves..... If a sampled wave were originally at 60 BPM, telling the G that it actually was 240 BPM for example in order to get more stretched and grainy effects out of the osc behavior. The default amount of user sampling time was pretty short, BUT, this could be increased to 512MB, allowing for up to some 50+ minutes of user waves! The XR/X engine had also introduced 16 step wave programmable LFOs and these LFOs could either come in sets of 2 per single Osc->Filter->Amp or (in a way) 4 per dual Osc-> dual Filter->Amp. It depended on the Struct assignment. "PMT" was also introduced, which allowed for things akin to (Wolfgang Palm) Wavetable, Korg "Wave Sequencing", and EMU Transwave and kinda/sorta "Preset Link" abilities. In essence, any given patch on the X/XR engine could be a make up of what would be an equal of 4 stacked single osc -> single filter -> amp synths 2 stacked dual osc -> dual filter -> amp synths or 2 stacked single osc -> single filter -> amp synths ON TOP OF 1 dual osc -> dual filter -> amp synth "PMT" could then be used to sweep through through these stacks via LFO, Envelope, velocity, key tracking, or modulation wheel control. Suffice to say, most notably when paired with the granular osc capabilities (limited as they were/are) one could quickly start getting some very crazy and complex timbre actions out of PMT. For these reasons, would say one can definitely hold argument for the Juno G (and XR/Fantom X engine in general) actually being a stronger synth engine than Roland's current Zen (Fantom / Jupter X / MC-707 & 101, AX Edge, etc.) when one specifically boils things down to the area of sample based osc.
As is often the case, Roland really didn't at all show off how deep the abilities the engine of the G went in the stock presets and compounding this, unfortunately, deep programming on the G wasn't exactly a pleasure. The XR/X engine was/is pretty deep and this meant one could quickly land themselves in a menu diving hell if not using a soft editor and sticking to programming natively on the G itself. I'm not sure as haven't had opportunity to fiddle with it, but at least from a skim over things, it "seems" to me that Roland may have continued employing the XR/X engine in the current Juno DS line.
Yes, the Juno-DS, Juno-Di, and Juno-D share an extremely similar engine as the Juno-G, Fantom X, Integra-7, and FA, but the effects algorithms sound noticeably better in the DS and FA/Integra-7. My MC-707's effects sound like updated versions as the DS effects algorithms sound old and are very muddy and kill subbass. Newer hardware sporting that Fantom-X-inspired ”PCM” engine have ”TMT” instead of ”PMT” with almost the same capabilities, but no possibility to modulate with an LFO. Zen-core's cross-mod options are more different rather than less than the PMT/TMT structure types.
great demo! the music! And, i wonder how it would sound if it were an analog synth, with a soul... jk ... it sounded really good actually! Roland is moving a little closer maybe.... but... granted Rolands original stuff from the 80s was so good, like that team that worked on that stuff, wow, my point is its like the new star wars vs. the original ... it kinda fxxxs up their legacy... I am curious what their thinking??? would it really be detromental to the company to hire another amazing group of engineers to make the next jupiter 8 all analog and for that matter ... take the legacy Forward with things as mind blowing as the jupiter 8 was when it came out!!!!!! We need to reach!!!!!!!!!!!!! REACH for more Roland and more will be for all to receive! Thanks.
Digital sound source is a wave table of 1s & 0s and calculations are performed like in a computer, Analog is about voltage oscillators, resistors, and electrical components (no computer). sorry bad english ;)
Also to add, the best way I heard was to compare it to those old digital and analog clocks ⏰ Where in digital clocks it jumps from values with no in between values, analog clocks ultimately glide when going from value to value making it in my opinion a better and more precise representation of “telling time” when you bring that analog-y ;) back into the conversation of digital synthesizers, you’ll have a lot of arguments over the fine tuning capabilities of these digital sounds, aswell as the quality of the sound itself, these company’s who are doing digital synths are actually getting really good it at and soon we won’t be able to tell a difference.. cheers!! Edit* also yeah this bad boy is fully digital, so there might be some standout differences from the original analog when it comes to sound but my biggest problem is any knobs being used for sound design are sending information digitally and it just doesn’t feel the same when working with analog knobs lol digital is more choppy when going between values but most people including me wouldn’t notice it unless you were a synth guru 😂
Digital means the audio signal is produced by a digital to analog converter. Analog means the audio signal is produced by an oscillator formed of linear components
I have a 2 questions see if you can give reply, it would be great help to me. No1 Dose this keyboard have all the XV5080 patches? No1 How many acoustic piano samples they have used from the RD series?
Hi Bhavesh. First at all, the XV-5080 Expansion Model is included by default, so you can load any libraries that were available before the launch of Juno-X. Said that, you will find more than 900 XV-5080 presets that include acoustic instruments, vintage synhts, percussions, and ethnic sounds, only to name a few. Refering the RD piano samples, this is unknown by now, as Roland hasn't revealed any details related. They said too that the users will find ten soundpacks free with many sounds ready to use on Roland Cloud. Best!
It has PCM sound bank of 3000+ patches including pianos, organs, guitars, you regular sampled synth patches and many more. You will find it in almost every pro level Roland product: Fantom/Fantom 0s, MC-707/101, Jupiter X/XM, RD-88/80.
Just seen the OB-X8 ...I suggest Roland needs a new Head of Strategy ...is there any other business with such passionate lovers of its products which steadfastly refuses to give its customers what they want, obsessed with digital yet no JD800 reissue ? ...I'm so confused.com
@@lundsweden It's about workflow and inspiration, the most important things in composing. The sound you can have the same on comp or hardware. So, yes, hardware synths are my first choice.
In reality it’s hard to tell it apart but there’s a million ways to get this exact sound. So unless you really want the body of a Juno there’s no point to this
Like with a shitty clone inside your computer you mean? People buy hardware not only for the sound but for the feel, interaction and the vibe of the instrument which is inspiring and personal. Why else would people buy any acoustic instrument when you can just load a sample library in your DAW and have the exact same sound? It’s obviously not the same thing.
You can use pretty much any instrument with any kind of daw. Just need the cables to go from the output into an input on an audio interface box plugged into your computer. Synths can be pretty expensive though so if your newer to production id probably recommend a plugin digital recreation of the sounds like "TAL YUNO-LX" for now
Yes bro, price here is one of the bad details -but both sound and design are so sexy! The capabilities are awesome, and we don't think this is only a plugin in a box, as many people is saying. This is a real (and value) instrument with a legacy behind
If only some synth wizard somewhere reissued the analog Juno 60 /106 into one amazing identical featured fully analogical device I'd be so freaking simpingly joyfull I'd preoder two... I don't want a pcm Juno I want the real thing brand new in the box. Roland has turned into a digital fascist cult so we can forget Roland
Schönes Ding. Aber: Was wenn das Display ausfällt wie bei fast allen Juno G's und es kein Ersatzteil gibt ??? Pech gehabt. Viel Geld in den Sand gesetzt und ein Synth zuhause den man sich an die Wand nageln kann.
Not my cup of tea, I prefer my jx's and D 50 with their unique sound. Their flaws or limitations complement to the charm of the sound character ...but that's a matter of taste. I just don't see the point of Roland referring and naming after their analog gear, while using digital perfection to imitate analog...Roland skips the people that look for instruments like prophet 5 or the soon to be released OB X8...I simply don't need perfect piano sounds from a Juno.
With Roland you got the cloud way, along potential new engjnes and, less important, the Juno retro look; taking the Summit course, you follow the powerful hibrid proposal (digital OSC, analog VCF and VCA), which is so exciting, and less update options via firmware. Booth sound awesome
@@AmarokOfficial Yes, Korg and Arturia too and many small companies as well -but the Roland preferences are digital with analog modelling. And the main acceptance is that this sounds nice too. Thanks!
I bought the Juno x over the Jupiter x. Because it's more reliable over time, does not need servicing and go out of tune and need parts replaced like most real analog synths. Plus the multi parts with appeggiatored parts and drums is awesome. But the Jupiter x is an awesome synth, just not reliable enough for me over time and playing live.
@@Drum2 A friendly correction. The Jupiter-X is digital like the Juno-X with the exact type of circuit board, the only difference is the firmware and the control-panel. However... are you satisfied with the Juno-x? I plan to get one myself and already have a Jupiter-X.
I think this is a hard one. When I bought my Jupiter-X there was no Juno-X on the market. Now I feel that I would like to have the Juno-X also. The Jupiter-X seem to have gained lot more popularity since they updated the firmware and we got the actual Jupiter-X model which is not the same as Jupiter-8-model. Which means you can use the Jupiter-X as Jupiter-8 and Jupiter-X. :)
The big difference is you can play 4 parts at once. They can be layers or split, each with their own arp or sequence if desired. Even mix them on the fly. The System 8 as a VST controller can’t do that. The rest sound almost identical between them all.
Quizá sean máquinas muy distantes y diferentes entre sí -para empezar, por lo que ahora cuesta un 106, sería posible comprar casi 2,5 JUNO-X (y no digamos ya de JUNO-60)
@@rox54q A DCO is an analog oscillator. All DCOs (usually 1 or 2 per voice) on a DCO based synth are digitally controlled, which means they are all tuned exactly the same (because they are synced to a digital clock, or something like that). This creates a very stable pitch, which makes them more reliable while still being analog. The classic Elka Synthex is an amazing sounding synth that uses DCOs for example.
Absolute rubbish. This is no longer the typical 12-bit sound. Roland evolved from a company that made instruments for real musicians to a gadget producing factory. It's the 12-bit processing that gave all early 80's synths the sound we love so much.
@@tonystephen6312 That makes no difference at all. I'm talking about the wave form generator that produces the original sounds. That was 12-bit and quite 'raw' compared to the sound chips that entered the market in the late 80's and early 90's. If you listen to computer game music created in 8-bit mode, it still sounds like 8-bit, also on TH-cam. That's because the 64-bit processing is quite neutral. It does not alter the original sound in any noticeable way. To illustrate the difference: listen to the same sounds on a Yamaha DX7 vs DX7S. The DX7 sounds like the real thing we got familiar with in the 80's. The DX7S doesn't. That's because the DX7S has a 15-bit wave generator vs the original 12-bit in the DX7.
@@jacquesmertens3369 yes i know what you mean - the lower bit rate makes that sound youre talking about. I remember the early dx7 mk1's - awesome sound. I was just adding that the digital transfer and recording over the internet doesnt do justice. That can sometimes produce a sterile flat sound. Anyways! :)
Depending on the commenter, this synth is either too digital or not digital enough The harmonics created by a signal being generated at a lower bit depth are effectively cut out of the equation once it's run through a low pass filter
@@pickyyeeter Roland market this gadget as a sort of all-in-one machine that can recreate the original sounds from their legendary synths. But that's not what it does. It's just a collection of the same sounds they sell online for your DAW, and those sounds are polished using 32- or 64-bit calculations and high sampling rates. They sound nothing like the original.
This is another phony Juno nostalgia trick from Roland, no real analogue in here. It has "Zencore" which is more 2 years old, and is in many other Roland products. Just another VA plus piano from RD. Way to pricey
Virus is still great and complex synth. How this is better than System 8? S8 has already juno on board. This is very overpriced nostalgia ridden Vst in overpriced box, So much for "not chasing ghosts"
@@HatredPrime It's got 4 layers -- twice as many as the System 8 and has other instruments only available in this machine. It's idiotic to say anything non analogue is a vst in a box
@@annother3350 Didn't Roland put their emulations in Roland Cloud? That's why I call it Vst in a box and where did you read that I call all things non analogue Vst in box?
@@HatredPrime There are emulations on here not available in the cloud. This keyboard can do other tricks and effects, and you can combine up to four layers. It would be very hard to recreate what this keyboard does with VSTs alone. Calling it simply a VST in a box is lazy and just untrue
@@annother3350 those tricks don't justify price and you can ad them to S8 without problem. Second, I doubt they build from ground code of this synth since Roland proved to be lazy quite few Times.
Juno is quite digital sounding synth, comparison original vs juno-x, the original wins, but the differences are very small: th-cam.com/video/kvkfmMKnIVo/w-d-xo.html
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People think that saying "VST in a box" is derogatory, that's actually why its so great! Keep saying it because the Juno-X is in GREAT COMPANY! The Waldorf Iridium, The Novation Summit, The Nord Wav2! All very powerful and very awesome! I love quality digital synths. I don't love sound design with a mouse or being forced to upgrade a computer every other year. Great job Roland!!🏆🏆🏆
Digital Diezel Agreed !!
Let’s not forget 2 of the most famous synths, the DX7 & Virus.
Beautiful instrument, indeed. Contemporary analog synthesizers are great, too. Probably because they use digital operating systems.
The Iridium definitely, but the Summit?? Nah that's actually true analog filters and envelopes.
These new Roland's are all vst which is fine enough if you only like Zen core.
I've heard many reviewers saying the System 8 sounds better and closer to the originals than the Jupiter X and the Juno X.
Sounds awesome to me. People still arguing about digital and analogue and don’t even release any music. It’s the end result that matters
This sounds and looks awesome. I am very glad that modern Roland finally realized that the interfaces and proper outputs of musical instruments matter as much as their sound engine.
Roland is on point! This is exactly the type of digital synth I need. Simple with powerful sounds! And the XV5080 is an added bonus!
Can't wait to bring this into the studio!
Same here! I preordered one last night. I love analog gear and digital the same. All the people hating on this synth have completely missed the point. If it sounds good, it sounds good! I can’t wait to get this thing hooked up to my live rig. It’ll be replacing a JDXI. 🤘🏻
@@jerrypeterson6109 Great item! Congratulations, Jay
take my money Roland!
vocoder....5.37' : marvelous , the best ever
Sounds massive. Definitely want one to use with my Oberheim, Moog and Virus a real synthwave powerhouse!
I like it despite the argument that it’s an expensive controller for VST. Perhaps Roland or Behringer could release analog reissues that are direct copies. As a stand-alone unit, I think it packs a lot (similar to Jupiter X) and has a great vibe. If you already have the originals then maybe this isn’t your cup of tea. Looks gig and studio ready to me. The UI is cool.
Best way to listen to this was on my car stereo😁Incredible!
Play On 🎶🎹🎶
This vocoder sounds so damn good. Would buy this thing just because of it...
Sounds good.Looking good.
Super impressed with this synth, I have a Jupiter X but this one sounds too good. Fantastic demo specially like the vocoder patch...Mind blowing! I love this synth...Great Job Roland ❤️
Really impressed too here about this machine. It's like more than three synths on a unique machine -and Roland is saying that the combined engine of 106-60 is new too.
@Cortana Zeke I think it's more to do with the fact Gattobus made a lot of the presets. His patches were the best thing about the JDXA.
@Cortana Zeke Does the old one have age modeling? I’m asking, just noticed that’s a feature on this.
@@MakeMagic sure!
@Cortana Zeke we’re not really sure about this -could be a new combo for this time. But Zen-Core compatibility forces things to be the same, that’s true
This vocoder sounds so great. I would say better than many others.
Love this
It’s a stunningly looking synth and sounds great too. It has the hallmark of becoming a modern classic. But will stick with my Jupiter Xm for now.
Una de mis marcas favoritas!
De muchos por aquí, Sednerp!!! 😉
Ojo al arturia v9 collection! Brutal... El plugins de strings es una pasada en la versión completa
Sounds so good
I use VST, but need this in my life. Better get saving :)
amazing il get one for sure
Mine just arrived yesterday :) it's awesome :) ....just trying to lean how to program it now, especially the multi parts and arpeggiators/drum parts
How is it man? Happy with it? It sounds lovely. I see people saying fantom-08 go for. Thoughts
@@mrbeats7434 to be honest I don’t have the time I would like to use it. It’s just sitting there and only used about 4 times. I might have to sell it 🥹🥹
@@Drum2 ah get it cranked up brother, i am dreaming of one now haha
@@mrbeats7434 i also was at that point phantom or juno and i got the juno because i hate endless menu scrolling. On the juno you can change a lot of the tone with the knobs on the front
Roland jupiter X .Full sinthetizer Best Nr1 PLANETA TERA.
excelente como siempre amigos saludos
Gracias Cassette! Nos "vemos" pronto por aquí. Abrazos!😍😎
The Juno G actually packed a pretty in depth synth engine, that being the Roland XR/Fantom X engine.
While it lacked a number of Roland's current Zen engine features, most notably in areas of VA, FM, and 3 band EQ per partial, it actually exceeded Roland's current Gen in arguably two key areas.
1. It carried a greater amount of routing "Struct(s)"ures. So patches could be set into numerous single osc to single filter OR dual osc fed into dual filters in serial configurations. There were also numerous ring modulation and Oscillator "boost" functions that could be done within some of the "Structs".
2. While by no means extensive, the engine did feature a rather basic and useful Granular capability for Osc. Basically, loaded (particularly user created) waves could be tempo locked for auto real-time time stretching and the time stretching algorithm employed was pretty darn good with often up to 3 octaves able to be achieved. So, want to use a sampled wave that had some sort of tempo related action occurring (LFO sweeps, percussion, or what have you) as an Oscillator for further synthesis? Not only not a problem on the Juno G, but up to 4 such Osc could be used simultaneously. Another area of worthy note here is various interesting granular synthesis effects could be achieved by offsetting the root/base tempo of waves.....
If a sampled wave were originally at 60 BPM, telling the G that it actually was 240 BPM for example in order to get more stretched and grainy effects out of the osc behavior.
The default amount of user sampling time was pretty short, BUT, this could be increased to 512MB, allowing for up to some 50+ minutes of user waves!
The XR/X engine had also introduced 16 step wave programmable LFOs and these LFOs could either come in sets of 2 per single Osc->Filter->Amp or (in a way) 4 per dual Osc-> dual Filter->Amp. It depended on the Struct assignment.
"PMT" was also introduced, which allowed for things akin to (Wolfgang Palm) Wavetable, Korg "Wave Sequencing", and EMU Transwave and kinda/sorta "Preset Link" abilities. In essence, any given patch on the X/XR engine could be a make up of what would be an equal of
4 stacked single osc -> single filter -> amp synths
2 stacked dual osc -> dual filter -> amp synths
or
2 stacked single osc -> single filter -> amp synths ON TOP OF 1 dual osc -> dual filter -> amp synth
"PMT" could then be used to sweep through through these stacks via LFO, Envelope, velocity, key tracking, or modulation wheel control.
Suffice to say, most notably when paired with the granular osc capabilities (limited as they were/are) one could quickly start getting some very crazy and complex timbre actions out of PMT.
For these reasons, would say one can definitely hold argument for the Juno G (and XR/Fantom X engine in general) actually being a stronger synth engine than Roland's current Zen (Fantom / Jupter X / MC-707 & 101, AX Edge, etc.) when one specifically boils things down to the area of sample based osc.
As is often the case, Roland really didn't at all show off how deep the abilities the engine of the G went in the stock presets and compounding this, unfortunately, deep programming on the G wasn't exactly a pleasure. The XR/X engine was/is pretty deep and this meant one could quickly land themselves in a menu diving hell if not using a soft editor and sticking to programming natively on the G itself.
I'm not sure as haven't had opportunity to fiddle with it, but at least from a skim over things, it "seems" to me that Roland may have continued employing the XR/X engine in the current Juno DS line.
Yes, the Juno-DS, Juno-Di, and Juno-D share an extremely similar engine as the Juno-G, Fantom X, Integra-7, and FA, but the effects algorithms sound noticeably better in the DS and FA/Integra-7. My MC-707's effects sound like updated versions as the DS effects algorithms sound old and are very muddy and kill subbass.
Newer hardware sporting that Fantom-X-inspired ”PCM” engine have ”TMT” instead of ”PMT” with almost the same capabilities, but no possibility to modulate with an LFO. Zen-core's cross-mod options are more different rather than less than the PMT/TMT structure types.
great demo! the music! And, i wonder how it would sound if it were an analog synth, with a soul... jk ... it sounded really good actually! Roland is moving a little closer maybe.... but... granted Rolands original stuff from the 80s was so good, like that team that worked on that stuff, wow, my point is its like the new star wars vs. the original ... it kinda fxxxs up their legacy...
I am curious what their thinking??? would it really be detromental to the company to hire another amazing group of engineers to make the next jupiter 8 all analog and for that matter ... take the legacy Forward with things as mind blowing as the jupiter 8 was when it came out!!!!!! We need to reach!!!!!!!!!!!!! REACH for more Roland and more will be for all to receive! Thanks.
Can someone please explain to me digital vs analog?? I keep seeing y’all say it’s not a analog synth ?
Digital sound source is a wave table of 1s & 0s and calculations are performed like in a computer, Analog is about voltage oscillators, resistors, and electrical components (no computer). sorry bad english ;)
@@juanrnavarro thank you !!!
Also to add, the best way I heard was to compare it to those old digital and analog clocks ⏰
Where in digital clocks it jumps from values with no in between values, analog clocks ultimately glide when going from value to value making it in my opinion a better and more precise representation of “telling time”
when you bring that analog-y ;) back into the conversation of digital synthesizers, you’ll have a lot of arguments over the fine tuning capabilities of these digital sounds, aswell as the quality of the sound itself, these company’s who are doing digital synths are actually getting really good it at and soon we won’t be able to tell a difference.. cheers!!
Edit* also yeah this bad boy is fully digital, so there might be some standout differences from the original analog when it comes to sound but my biggest problem is any knobs being used for sound design are sending information digitally and it just doesn’t feel the same when working with analog knobs lol digital is more choppy when going between values but most people including me wouldn’t notice it unless you were a synth guru 😂
@@juanrnavarro Perfect definition.
Digital means the audio signal is produced by a digital to analog converter. Analog means the audio signal is produced by an oscillator formed of linear components
It can do sounds analogue synths could only dream of. 256 notes polophony is also nice
Just bought one.. $1,970
does it have a detunable and spreadable unison? and supersaw oscillator ?
ya
It's not bad. It's okay. It's an okay, decent digital synth.
I was thinking about getting it, you said it's an ok Synth, you don't think it's worth it ?
@@LouisTorres-ut4ks trust your ears and if it fits the music you want to make. it sounds good to me
@@annother3350 Thank You I appreciate it
and the plugin version when??
I have a 2 questions see if you can give reply, it would be great help to me. No1 Dose this keyboard have all the XV5080 patches? No1 How many acoustic piano samples they have used from the RD series?
Hi Bhavesh. First at all, the XV-5080 Expansion Model is included by default, so you can load any libraries that were available before the launch of Juno-X. Said that, you will find more than 900 XV-5080 presets that include acoustic instruments, vintage synhts, percussions, and ethnic sounds, only to name a few. Refering the RD piano samples, this is unknown by now, as Roland hasn't revealed any details related. They said too that the users will find ten soundpacks free with many sounds ready to use on Roland Cloud. Best!
Se todo teclado vier com alto-falantes será ótimo...parabéns ROLAND!!!!
Can you program other keyboard sounds like pianos and all that into the synth or is it strictly synth sounds only?
It has PCM sound bank of 3000+ patches including pianos, organs, guitars, you regular sampled synth patches and many more. You will find it in almost every pro level Roland product: Fantom/Fantom 0s, MC-707/101, Jupiter X/XM, RD-88/80.
@@alicaramba7680 Ok cool, I just wasn’t sure if it was strictly synth sounds only
Nice
Just seen the OB-X8 ...I suggest Roland needs a new Head of Strategy ...is there any other business with such passionate lovers of its products which steadfastly refuses to give its customers what they want, obsessed with digital yet no JD800 reissue ? ...I'm so confused.com
Это по мне, супер!
Why would I buy this $2000 dongle when TAL UNO-LX sounds so good?
Software synths never will sound as good their analog counterpart. Any hobbyist/established music producer will come to realize this.
@@oskarkoshenina1930 I used to say this 20-25 years ago, but now there is little difference. The Juno-X is digital anyway.
@@oskarkoshenina1930 this isn't analog my friend
@@lundsweden It's about workflow and inspiration, the most important things in composing. The sound you can have the same on comp or hardware. So, yes, hardware synths are my first choice.
@@b.hornetiii.6771 I'm just bitter cause I cant afford it!
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In reality it’s hard to tell it apart but there’s a million ways to get this exact sound. So unless you really want the body of a Juno there’s no point to this
Like with a shitty clone inside your computer you mean? People buy hardware not only for the sound but for the feel, interaction and the vibe of the instrument which is inspiring and personal. Why else would people buy any acoustic instrument when you can just load a sample library in your DAW and have the exact same sound? It’s obviously not the same thing.
as long as you use it as a synthesizer instead of a sound module with presets, it's far better than mouse editing...
Not bad actually.
Can I use this on fl ?
You can use pretty much any instrument with any kind of daw. Just need the cables to go from the output into an input on an audio interface box plugged into your computer. Synths can be pretty expensive though so if your newer to production id probably recommend a plugin digital recreation of the sounds like "TAL YUNO-LX" for now
Let's call this α-Juno VI(1986.7.18 style)
Man, I really wish I had a Roland Juno X, but that cost $1,899.00, which is very expensive. But, I do have a Yamaha MX88 and Korg MS2000.
Yes bro, price here is one of the bad details -but both sound and design are so sexy! The capabilities are awesome, and we don't think this is only a plugin in a box, as many people is saying. This is a real (and value) instrument with a legacy behind
Anyway, you can do a lot of wild things with your current setup! Just use it and share your music with us. Thanks!
@@FutureMusicMediaLAB You’re welcome, man. 😊
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Yeah it sounds thin on your 15$ wallmart-airpods.
Seriously. Sounds incredible on my sennheisers.
There is nothing like a real Juno 106
If only some synth wizard somewhere reissued the analog Juno 60 /106 into one amazing identical featured fully analogical device I'd be so freaking simpingly joyfull I'd preoder two... I don't want a pcm Juno I want the real thing brand new in the box. Roland has turned into a digital fascist cult so we can forget Roland
@@joleemmolson3844 give it a rest drama queen
@@joleemmolson3844 Roland engineers deserve a standing ovation. From the 70's to now. Come on!
@@joleemmolson3844 Roland = fascist cult?! ok buddy
All electronic instruments has its beauty it is all up to you how you express them :)
Schönes Ding. Aber: Was wenn das Display ausfällt wie bei fast allen Juno G's und es kein Ersatzteil gibt ???
Pech gehabt. Viel Geld in den Sand gesetzt und ein Synth zuhause den man sich an die Wand nageln kann.
Very cool, but overpriced!
in Brazil a Nautilus 73 costs U$ 4,600 and the Juno X around U$ 2,250. That difference doesn't make sense. So I think the Juno price is ok.
Not my cup of tea, I prefer my jx's and D 50 with their unique sound. Their flaws or limitations complement to the charm of the sound character ...but that's a matter of taste. I just don't see the point of Roland referring and naming after their analog gear, while using digital perfection to imitate analog...Roland skips the people that look for instruments like prophet 5 or the soon to be released OB X8...I simply don't need perfect piano sounds from a Juno.
I agree. Them making digital structures of their original analog roots makes me so... upset? The digital sound just sounds far too perfect.
This or the Novation Summit? Decisions... decisions...
With Roland you got the cloud way, along potential new engjnes and, less important, the Juno retro look; taking the Summit course, you follow the powerful hibrid proposal (digital OSC, analog VCF and VCA), which is so exciting, and less update options via firmware. Booth sound awesome
Fantom-06 is the far better deal in a Roland Zen-core keyboard, and then pair it with the Summit for best results.
1700€ ? Come oooown man.
That is, crazy price tag
@@FutureMusicMediaLAB Yes way too much, what a loss.
The fact that it doesn't even say Juno on the back shows that they know another fancy housing for software emulation won't impress anyone on stage.
Or maybe it's because 'Juno' also wasn't on the back of the 106...
www.deepsonic.ch/deep/pix_equipment/roland_juno-106_04.jpg
Why not analog Roland, why!?
New times, new technogy -easy for all the chain
@@AmarokOfficial Yes, Korg and Arturia too and many small companies as well -but the Roland preferences are digital with analog modelling. And the main acceptance is that this sounds nice too. Thanks!
Checking on good hammond b3 sound in particular and good grand piano sound that's it! Just check my profile pic and you'll know what I'm talking about
no midi thru? how ? to ? connect ? to ? my ? chain ? as ? it ? is ? now ?
Horrible comment .you obviously are a Yamaha fan boy that is blind ….
Try buying a thru box like most people.
Can I use this on fl ?
Connect it at the end of the chain 😂😂
Ou my gosh
This or the Jupiter X?🤔 There's only about €500 difference 🤷♂️
I bought the Juno x over the Jupiter x. Because it's more reliable over time, does not need servicing and go out of tune and need parts replaced like most real analog synths. Plus the multi parts with appeggiatored parts and drums is awesome. But the Jupiter x is an awesome synth, just not reliable enough for me over time and playing live.
@@Drum2 A friendly correction. The Jupiter-X is digital like the Juno-X with the exact type of circuit board, the only difference is the firmware and the control-panel. However... are you satisfied with the Juno-x? I plan to get one myself and already have a Jupiter-X.
I think this is a hard one. When I bought my Jupiter-X there was no Juno-X on the market. Now I feel that I would like to have the Juno-X also. The Jupiter-X seem to have gained lot more popularity since they updated the firmware and we got the actual Jupiter-X model which is not the same as Jupiter-8-model. Which means you can use the Jupiter-X as Jupiter-8 and Jupiter-X. :)
Tal uno much better
Not much from a performance perspective
Don´t see nothing what my System 8 cannot do for less money, its just a too expancive for a VST controller.
System 8 and the aira stuff sounds better but the green is just too much!
hmm... they're not the same thing, much less the same Mojo. Got it?
The big difference is you can play 4 parts at once. They can be layers or split, each with their own arp or sequence if desired. Even mix them on the fly. The System 8 as a VST controller can’t do that. The rest sound almost identical between them all.
you can get real juno in great condition for this price lol.
Doesn't include all the other bells and whistles though.
Effective complaining can’t afford it
No suena mal la criaturilla. Qué tal lo ven los usuarios del original??
Quizá sean máquinas muy distantes y diferentes entre sí -para empezar, por lo que ahora cuesta un 106, sería posible comprar casi 2,5 JUNO-X (y no digamos ya de JUNO-60)
Don't sound analog, very digital, it's like listen my system 8 or zenology vst...
the original juno is digital. and it is your system 8. it’s the system 8 software in the juno layout.
@@visible7044 only the oscilators are digital DCO, the filter and evrething else is analog on the original juno
@@rox54q DCO = Digitally Controlled 'Analog' Oscillator!
@@Reyescult + DCF
@@rox54q A DCO is an analog oscillator. All DCOs (usually 1 or 2 per voice) on a DCO based synth are digitally controlled, which means they are all tuned exactly the same (because they are synced to a digital clock, or something like that). This creates a very stable pitch, which makes them more reliable while still being analog. The classic Elka Synthex is an amazing sounding synth that uses DCOs for example.
Not my tea of cup. I use VST🤗
Sounds thin as any other modern Roland ACB/ZEN Core synth from Roland, sad.
IT DOES NOT SOUND THIN.
Sounds not so fat as the old vintage Roland
Absolute rubbish. This is no longer the typical 12-bit sound.
Roland evolved from a company that made instruments for real musicians to a gadget producing factory.
It's the 12-bit processing that gave all early 80's synths the sound we love so much.
it doesnt help the analog feel when it comes over a digital audio link aka the internet.
@@tonystephen6312 That makes no difference at all. I'm talking about the wave form generator that produces the original sounds. That was 12-bit and quite 'raw' compared to the sound chips that entered the market in the late 80's and early 90's. If you listen to computer game music created in 8-bit mode, it still sounds like 8-bit, also on TH-cam. That's because the 64-bit processing is quite neutral. It does not alter the original sound in any noticeable way.
To illustrate the difference: listen to the same sounds on a Yamaha DX7 vs DX7S. The DX7 sounds like the real thing we got familiar with in the 80's. The DX7S doesn't. That's because the DX7S has a 15-bit wave generator vs the original 12-bit in the DX7.
@@jacquesmertens3369 yes i know what you mean - the lower bit rate makes that sound youre talking about. I remember the early dx7 mk1's - awesome sound.
I was just adding that the digital transfer and recording over the internet doesnt do justice. That can sometimes produce a sterile flat sound.
Anyways! :)
Depending on the commenter, this synth is either too digital or not digital enough
The harmonics created by a signal being generated at a lower bit depth are effectively cut out of the equation once it's run through a low pass filter
@@pickyyeeter Roland market this gadget as a sort of all-in-one machine that can recreate the original sounds from their legendary synths. But that's not what it does. It's just a collection of the same sounds they sell online for your DAW, and those sounds are polished using 32- or 64-bit calculations and high sampling rates. They sound nothing like the original.
very disappointed, vst uno tal way better !
Another Togu Audio Line software license owner sporting software development.
..it sounds gaaayy.. I will be keeping my June 106 and HS-60...
which sound straight ?
@@endorphinsmusic ..this new Juno is digital junk.. Roland hasn't made anything decent since 1994..
@@normdurkin6425 so it likes same-synth relations ?
@@endorphinsmusic ..you tracks gaaayy.. I would pay money not to hear them..
Yeah it’s coming off very homosexual indeed 🤨
This is another phony Juno nostalgia trick from Roland, no real analogue in here. It has "Zencore" which is more 2 years old, and is in many other Roland products. Just another VA plus piano from RD. Way to pricey
Virus is still great and complex synth. How this is better than System 8? S8 has already juno on board. This is very overpriced nostalgia ridden Vst in overpriced box, So much for "not chasing ghosts"
@@HatredPrime It's got 4 layers -- twice as many as the System 8 and has other instruments only available in this machine. It's idiotic to say anything non analogue is a vst in a box
@@annother3350 Didn't Roland put their emulations in Roland Cloud? That's why I call it Vst in a box and where did you read that I call all things non analogue Vst in box?
@@HatredPrime There are emulations on here not available in the cloud. This keyboard can do other tricks and effects, and you can combine up to four layers. It would be very hard to recreate what this keyboard does with VSTs alone. Calling it simply a VST in a box is lazy and just untrue
@@annother3350 those tricks don't justify price and you can ad them to S8 without problem. Second, I doubt they build from ground code of this synth since Roland proved to be lazy quite few Times.
Just a VST plug-in housed into a very expensive controller.
Harsh digital tones drenched in reverb in every Juno X promo video. Total junk.
Juno is quite digital sounding synth, comparison original vs juno-x, the original wins, but the differences are very small: th-cam.com/video/kvkfmMKnIVo/w-d-xo.html
@@iceuul674 They even put the inferior crappy keybed in it. At least the Jupiter X has a premium keybed. What a joke.
@@ChrisP3000x "the inferior crappy keybed" >> The one from the Juno-DS? Or which one?
well yes.
It sounds great. You need to de-wax your ears
Thin, $2000 plugin inside a case. Roland sucks!!!!!!
Bahahahahahahahahaha.
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