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I enjoyed this video because i just finished my own freeze mage, and you gave me some insight into how to play against the zoolock, something i've had a little trouble with, so thanks.
Well blizzard matched these 2 up for a reason right? He's supposed to get a different deck out if he keeps losing like that. Especially if you queue up right after. His own fault
pletter64 Zoo lock spanks everything except for Freeze mage, and control war 50% of the time so it is ideal for laddering. I'm not saying Firebat is a bad guy. I'm just saying that phrasing it that way was funny because it was so brutal. I'm pretty sure most of the reason they were paired back to back is because Firebat plays really early
I see you everywhere. I never read your comments. And I fucking hate you for some reason that I don't even know. I hate the saying no offense... But I literally mean no offense, because I can't mean offense, idk if you're a shit person, or a hater. That feels really good to get off my chest. Maybe I'll become a superfan of you.
Damn, Kitty was really excited to watch your games, I heard his pretty voice during the video, he will become your talisman when playing freeze Mage xD
Hey Firebat I'm not sure if you'll see this but I have been subscribed to you for a long time now probably since around 3,000 subs or so! I'm super happy that you are getting recognized as you are one of my favorite Hearthstone streamers. I had two questions about this deck because I decided to try it out. 1. What are you looking for turn one? 2. What can be used to replace bloodmage thalnos and Alexxstrsza? Thank you for everything! I hope you know you are some people's favorite streamer :)
Im not firebat, but i hope i can still help. Well a replacement for Alextrasa is very hard to find cause she is one of the key cards, but i guess u could try an archmage antonidas to compensate the missing life reset with more burn. For thalnos i would try either a loothoarder or a geomancer. Hope i could help, have a nice day.
yeah i seen on Lifecoach's stream at least on his server the percentage of warrior is almost at 30%, shaman is also in the 20% range. balance needed ???
Freeze mage has an advantage against zoo so it might seem strong here because zoo is a very strong deck but right now freeze mage is losing to most other decks. I'm playing n'zoth control warrior and I don't think I've lost a single game to freeze mage this month.
I've always hated freeze mage, but its so nice when playing control warrior that you know they have so little of a chance to beat you. Makes me feel safe at night
From the ice blocks to the bolt (the frostbolt). Till sweat drips down warlocks, all these imp gangs fall. Ice lance, lance, lance, lance, lance, lance, lance. Ice lance, lance, lance. Uh get, uh get tilted.
+James Clark kobold geomancer works okay, i actually replaced him with malygos at one point. Malygos is best if it's a control heavy meta, (which its not atm), so kobold is probably your best bet
You can try Malygos and hope for a good Thaurissan. Malygos +2x Frostbolt +2x Ice Lance is 34 damage with Thaurissan proc. If he happens to not be able to remove either Thaurissan or Malygos it may be gg since Thaurissan can set up a better OTK and Malygos can deal sick damage next turn as well. The other route is him not having Justicar and you getting a good Alex that puts him at kind of like 20 being easily burstable next turn.
putting malygos in this deck? I think it is safer bc sometimes u cant draw alexstrasza. With emperor, u can have a otk with 5 cards. Full burst : Malygos, 2 frostbolt and 2 ice lance to do 34 damage. Semi burst : Malygos, any 3 of the rest to do 25-26 damage.
Because he went from having 7 burst in hand to mathematically winning the game the next turn. The sooner you can cycle through your deck the sooner you can burn your opponent out before they can get through your ice blocks. Value doesn't matter if you can just end the game in your favor, that's one of the fundamental reasons the deck works.
Healing for a lot after Alex is usually an easy way to beat them. The other option would be to threaten to kill them so they can't set up lethal over multiple turns, stuff like Ragnaros is pretty strong. But the easiest way would be to play cancer and kill them by turn 3.
pyroblast + 2 torches (2 roaring torches) is more than enough dmg. except when you face control warri/reno decks and even then it is enough most of the time
Pyroblast gets used like 1/10 freeze mage games with success imo you could be fine wihtout it but then again you might not. If you have every other card including the alex and the blocks you should go for it
Bluffs, fakeouts, mindgames. (Making an action that's illogical and inefficient, baiting your opponent into reacting to something you can't do, so you can fuck him over and punish his 'counter') Among other things
mtg requires more luck than hearthstone actually, due to land cards. You are significantly more likely, from a statistical standpoint, to draw a card you don't want or need in magic than you are in hearthstone. A hearthstone deck is far more consistent than a mtg deck. That said, magic has way more hilarious combos, and is still a fun game in it's own right. Mana drought/flood is literally the reason i like hearthstone better. I realize that it doesn't happen often, but it's infuriating when it does.
I can confirm. In Hearthstone, worst case something doesn't go your way. In MtG, not being able to play an important card for 5+ turns because you can't get your goddamn mana is a very real possibility.
+Jonhatan Bielsa So whats the matter? Lets say you go to work. You can either walk there straight which is 500m, or then you can go a longer road that takes 2000m. Do i call you lazy for taking the 500m route? of course not
+Jonhatan Bielsa your argument makes me laugh zoo is top tier and it takes skill to play just like every deck in the game.All decks have important decisions to make. And if you don't mind me asking what is your rank?
That's exactly where rational and unrational minds collide. "Playing a game" is nothing what it once was. People these days are just playing to win, not even having fun. if someone tells me freeze mage or aggro decks are fun, you seriously need help or get something fixed, because when your only joy is to ruin the fun of others, you should not be allowed to play against or with people. What buffles me, is how blizzard sees no need to fix obvious abusive strategies, like playing solitair mage but goes "well it's in the game so screw you". There's no tactics involved. It's either you draw right or you don't - nothing more nothing less, if you say it's tactical to decide when to play which freeze card or doomsayer, you should seriously think about the width of your horizon.
Amazing video. I love the super detailed commentary and it really shows how fast his mind is ticking over. Almost makes me want to play freeze mage.
thought the same :D
RIP DJJ
RIP DJJ's screen...
If I were DJJ I would have waited a few minutes before queuing back in to avoid you.
He was probs insta queuing out of salt lol
6:16 Firebat confirmed Furry
One dislike from DJJ. BibleThump
6 fake accounts disliking from DJJ. BibleThump
+Wheatsolo And 23 more BibleThump
+Wheatsolo And 23 more BibleThump
I enjoyed this video because i just finished my own freeze mage, and you gave me some insight into how to play against the zoolock, something i've had a little trouble with, so thanks.
"He was 15 when we started but now he's close to our rank, so that's pretty cool." What a dick thing to say lol.
Well blizzard matched these 2 up for a reason right? He's supposed to get a different deck out if he keeps losing like that. Especially if you queue up right after. His own fault
pletter64 Zoo lock spanks everything except for Freeze mage, and control war 50% of the time so it is ideal for laddering. I'm not saying Firebat is a bad guy. I'm just saying that phrasing it that way was funny because it was so brutal. I'm pretty sure most of the reason they were paired back to back is because Firebat plays really early
Totally Not A Potato I can. I don't really play decks that match up poorly with them and I tech for zoo when I play a class like priest.
Totally Not A Potato It would surely be novel.
I see you everywhere. I never read your comments. And I fucking hate you for some reason that I don't even know. I hate the saying no offense... But I literally mean no offense, because I can't mean offense, idk if you're a shit person, or a hater. That feels really good to get off my chest. Maybe I'll become a superfan of you.
Damn, Kitty was really excited to watch your games, I heard his pretty voice during the video, he will become your talisman when playing freeze Mage xD
anyone notice the opponent's ranks freezing literally after every match?
It's in the video title
what does that mean? their rank freezes??
new to me was that not to cicle the toarch to get iceblock faster :P
I like the audio sync. Whatever you are doing now is working.
firebat definitely deserves more subs
Hey Firebat I'm not sure if you'll see this but I have been subscribed to you for a long time now probably since around 3,000 subs or so! I'm super happy that you are getting recognized as you are one of my favorite Hearthstone streamers. I had two questions about this deck because I decided to try it out. 1. What are you looking for turn one? 2. What can be used to replace bloodmage thalnos and Alexxstrsza? Thank you for everything! I hope you know you are some people's favorite streamer :)
Im not firebat, but i hope i can still help. Well a replacement for Alextrasa is very hard to find cause she is one of the key cards, but i guess u could try an archmage antonidas to compensate the missing life reset with more burn. For thalnos i would try either a loothoarder or a geomancer. Hope i could help, have a nice day.
+Raphael Müller Thanks!!! ^.^
Sure sometimes you get a free win with a freeze mage.
But isnt every single win you get with a zoo deck the same type of free win?
Yay more Firebat videos.
Poor guy never stood a chance
I love playing Freeze mage into Warlock. Now that Molten is gone only Renolock could ever give you problems. Almost as auto-win as the Priest matchup
I miss my molten giants :( I spent 4 months making that deck and now its all ruined because of 1 card nerf
at least you got your dust back, it was fun while it lasted!
90% of people running warriors which are close to unwinable with freeze mage.
yeah i seen on Lifecoach's stream at least on his server the percentage of warrior is almost at 30%, shaman is also in the 20% range. balance needed ???
+rippinskid talk about zoolock balance
Freeze mage was such a cool deck, RIP
First time trying freeze mage . First game - hunter - , i melted his face :)
Freeze mage is my favorite deck to watch firebat play
Man is wish I had cards to play this deck, not only does it look fun but it's actually real strong
It's fucking boring, believe me.
Freeze mage is not that good atm :) I played a lot before standard but now isn't doing that well
Freeze mage has an advantage against zoo so it might seem strong here because zoo is a very strong deck but right now freeze mage is losing to most other decks. I'm playing n'zoth control warrior and I don't think I've lost a single game to freeze mage this month.
I've always hated freeze mage, but its so nice when playing control warrior that you know they have so little of a chance to beat you. Makes me feel safe at night
+LermasQui if you want to counter zoo, your better of with cw
Is there a cat meowing in the background? it's driving me crazy
Hey firebat, why dont you use forbidden flame instead of pyroblast?
forbidden flame only hits minions*
Because FF can only do damage against minions.
because forbidden flame only works on minions you need that 10 damage to screw someone at low health
There's a very good list that runs double forbidden Flame, double flame cannon, and double Flame Leviathan. It's OpieOP.
Bastards copied my list ! How am I supposed to reach Legend with no element of surprise ??
Hey firebat, what vape setup are you using there?
working towards this deck, any viable replacements for emperor, pyro and alex?
do have sylv, rag
3:18
3, 6, 9 Damn she fine
Let me see ya sock it to me one mo' time
Get low, get low, get low, get low
9:50 and again
From the ice blocks to the bolt (the frostbolt). Till sweat drips down warlocks, all these imp gangs fall.
Ice lance, lance, lance, lance, lance, lance, lance. Ice lance, lance, lance. Uh get, uh get tilted.
Wheatsolo that's so good lmao
Lmao firebat the ultimate fucking troll...he changes their rank down with a icy legend badge lol
SO INFORMATIVE
what do you think about kirin tor mage on this deck?
thnx Faber Velloso
oddly enough i have everything for freeze mage, just not ice block
Do you edit your own videos firebat
Oh and what's the replacement for thalnos
+James Clark kobold geomancer works okay, i actually replaced him with malygos at one point. Malygos is best if it's a control heavy meta, (which its not atm), so kobold is probably your best bet
Best replacement is Loot Hoarder
amani or haunted creeper kappa
Play cult sorcerer works similarly to thalnos with the +1 spell damage
without Antonidas is there anyway of beating control warriror with this deck?...it seems pretty hard to me = O
You can try Malygos and hope for a good Thaurissan. Malygos +2x Frostbolt +2x Ice Lance is 34 damage with Thaurissan proc. If he happens to not be able to remove either Thaurissan or Malygos it may be gg since Thaurissan can set up a better OTK and Malygos can deal sick damage next turn as well. The other route is him not having Justicar and you getting a good Alex that puts him at kind of like 20 being easily burstable next turn.
even with antonidas the ctrl warr matchup was like 70-30 in the warrior's favor. just dont lay freeze in a ctrl warrior meta.
+Angelos Koulas I think its more favourable to rope every turn and hope he dcs instead of that...
Jaina can freez someone then burn him and... frost lance the freezed guys that she burn second ago... Real magie there
TIL that Firebat vapes.
You've not seen his videos before then?
Does he crossfit?
vapes to quit smoking :-)
What is that number on the diamond over the enemy's legend rank everytime you defeat someone?
something he edited in for fun to show much ranks he would drop
What do the numbers and the crystal next to the opponents rank mean?
I hate non-interactive decks like freeze mage, but zoo players totally deserve that.
putting malygos in this deck?
I think it is safer bc sometimes u cant draw alexstrasza.
With emperor, u can have a otk with 5 cards.
Full burst : Malygos, 2 frostbolt and 2 ice lance to do 34 damage.
Semi burst : Malygos, any 3 of the rest to do 25-26 damage.
but malygos has to Stick.. your deck relying on a minion to Stick is kinda bad
stick on board?
I am talking about otk. With emperor, u only need 3 reduced mana cost card to do the burst. 8mana malygos+ 2 mana frostbolt+0 mana ice lance*2.
Heil To Grandma so you need Emperor to Stick 3 turns...thats even harder
+Stefan Huber wtf just 1 turn only. I played this deck by myself. Once u have 3 of those card in ur hand, u jusf play emperor.
and why do I always bump into warriors when I play freeze mage -.-
feels bad for djj
can you pls upload video when you play frezze mage vs control or cthun warrior?
You Insta-concede vs these matchups
How to win as warrior against freeze mage: Press armor-up every turn, and you pretty much won.
+KF8461 But warriors have it pretty easy to remove your antonidas
Very good
Why trade Thalnos away in the last game, while you could go for the value and ping the 1/1 with fireblast?
Strange
Because that way he could draw 2 extra cards this turn
+calvin0416ny but he didn't need to.
I think freeze mages are supposed to cycle through their deck asap
Because he went from having 7 burst in hand to mathematically winning the game the next turn. The sooner you can cycle through your deck the sooner you can burn your opponent out before they can get through your ice blocks. Value doesn't matter if you can just end the game in your favor, that's one of the fundamental reasons the deck works.
djj is now probably only playing magic now
lul
what beats this deck except for control warrior with shit tones of armor???
Healing for a lot after Alex is usually an easy way to beat them. The other option would be to threaten to kill them so they can't set up lethal over multiple turns, stuff like Ragnaros is pretty strong. But the easiest way would be to play cancer and kill them by turn 3.
how come Archmage Antonidas isn't in the deck?
pyroblast + 2 torches (2 roaring torches) is more than enough dmg. except when you face control warri/reno decks and even then it is enough most of the time
+Hapi djus thank you! you are right it is more than enough
Song @ the very end?
no flamestrike?
runs cone of cold instead
I suppose, but running flamestrike too seems like a reasonable idea
no reason to there is no need for it
probably depends on preference / meta.... flamestrike against mid range shaman is MVP.
Man, your cat needs to shut up xD
You sound like Zap Brannigan from Futurama
Why won't that djj play control warrior
Rip djj legend rank
What could i replace pyroblast with :/
you can try archmage antonidas, but he is good only vs control matchups, otherwise try a 2nd loat hoarder or a flamestrike
Pyroblast gets used like 1/10 freeze mage games with success imo you could be fine wihtout it but then again you might not. If you have every other card including the alex and the blocks you should go for it
Malygos. Otherwise you need to play the other variant of the deck with no pyro, one barrier that uses mirror image instead.
forbidden flame, it is strictly better
Bwallker no. You want pyroblast because it goes face
Firebat what u up to bro😢
Don't worry bro, he is in the bat cave chilling
rip neobility
what's outro song Kappa
Epic Sax Guy, I’m serious
VAPENATION 15:15
Why make him rank 1374020 when you could make him 2147483647?
dye dee dOh
Those games were pre-patch, abusive sergeant has 2 attack. PRERECORDED DansGame
Mike Hunt the video is from june 2016????
TheBlazinAsian XIV I think abusive sergeant was already nerfed back then WutFace
Can there even be a top 100 players. Once you get so good the game is just decided by luck and deck matchups
True. But hearthstone seems by far the card game that requires most luck. And it all ends with one lucky draw.
Bluffs, fakeouts, mindgames. (Making an action that's illogical and inefficient, baiting your opponent into reacting to something you can't do, so you can fuck him over and punish his 'counter') Among other things
mtg requires more luck than hearthstone actually, due to land cards. You are significantly more likely, from a statistical standpoint, to draw a card you don't want or need in magic than you are in hearthstone. A hearthstone deck is far more consistent than a mtg deck. That said, magic has way more hilarious combos, and is still a fun game in it's own right.
Mana drought/flood is literally the reason i like hearthstone better. I realize that it doesn't happen often, but it's infuriating when it does.
kingofbudokai usually happens to me, must be really bad at shuffling but even when I do the 8 random piles it happens
I can confirm. In Hearthstone, worst case something doesn't go your way. In MtG, not being able to play an important card for 5+ turns because you can't get your goddamn mana is a very real possibility.
How in the Fuck do you beat this deck? I'm about 0 for 20 against it!
Control warrior
bad draws? thats all
wow gotta make a funny comment ! (seriously tho you fucked up his rank ^^)
he is legend rank playing no brainer decks like zoolock , he got what he deserved.
zoolock is top tier though
Zark sure it is , that´s why all the noobs are playing it , good deck no brains needed .
+Jonhatan Bielsa So whats the matter? Lets say you go to work. You can either walk there straight which is 500m, or then you can go a longer road that takes 2000m. Do i call you lazy for taking the 500m route? of course not
+Jonhatan Bielsa your argument makes me laugh zoo is top tier and it takes skill to play just like every deck in the game.All decks have important decisions to make. And if you don't mind me asking what is your rank?
That's exactly where rational and unrational minds collide. "Playing a game" is nothing what it once was. People these days are just playing to win, not even having fun. if someone tells me freeze mage or aggro decks are fun, you seriously need help or get something fixed, because when your only joy is to ruin the fun of others, you should not be allowed to play against or with people. What buffles me, is how blizzard sees no need to fix obvious abusive strategies, like playing solitair mage but goes "well it's in the game so screw you". There's no tactics involved. It's either you draw right or you don't - nothing more nothing less, if you say it's tactical to decide when to play which freeze card or doomsayer, you should seriously think about the width of your horizon.
DJJ triggered LOL.
When you sub to Firebat the see him vape then unsub XD
Yeah Freeze mage is overpowered horseshit.
RIP DJJ