I'll keep saying it over and over. This channel is beyond underrated. You do a amazing job man, I appreciate the work you do for your videos. Also like how you have your own style of videos. No one else really does it your way. Keep it up man. I'll keep praying you get the recognition you deserve
I'm not normally one to leave a comment on any video. That being said, Great job. This is the first Tactical Consideration video I've ever watched. The review was exactly what I was looking for, the information was spot on, thank you for that. The main message I wanted to convey to you was that some folks are meant to to videos and some are not. I appreciated your way of relaying information. For me, your video was the right combination of product information and personality. You were sincere in your comments, but not cramming opinions down the viewers throat. I think you can understand where I'm coming from. Great job, in my opinion. I'm now a subscriber to your channel.
Thank you for the review, I will recommend a review of the MAC 9mm DS, almost the same price but much better quality, no MIM parts, Bul barrel, better trigger
@@TacticalConsiderations please do, $880 street price with all the non MIM parts and Bul barrel and OR. So far I didn’t see any issues with it, looks like it’s reliable better than the Prodigy.
@@OBZ74 It is my understanding that SA has addressed the growing pain issue with the Prodigy and has become a reliable product. I looked at one and ended up going with the Staccato C-2. Contrary to all the tube praise, the Staccatos have issues as well. Mine is ultra reliable, however irritating things like a drop in fire control group, not hand fitted and a soft hammer that acts like a low cost poorly heat treated MIM part. Where the hammer contacts and rides the bullet stripper d inside the slide when cocking in firing is badly worn. Dead Soft! I have a friend that works at a lgs and enjoys his Tisas. No complaints. It is a government single stack model. My Les Baer has a stainless hammer which should be softer than tool steel yet after a few thousand of rounds has virtually no wear. something very wrong at this price point. KnifeMaker/Retired after over 47+ years in the Craft
@@michaell397 I am leaning towards the Prodigy for awhile now and I think it would be a much better firearm when you replace the internal parts with EGW ignition kit for $135.00. SF has a great customer service and they will fix any issues with their product.
I picked up a 9mm commander of theirs almost two years ago. Worst 1911 I've ever had the displeasure of shooting. Dropped mags, stove piped nearly every mag. Replaced the extractor with a Wilson and tuned it. Still did it. Only 1911 I've not been able to tuned and when I could get it shooting, the next day. Horror Story all over again. Stove piped over and over again. With optic, and without. Crimping the mouth of the case. Tried Cobra Mag's and Wilsons and nothing worked. Trigger pull was just under 11 lbs. Turned out that the leaf spring was very bent and putting wild pressure on the hammer and disconnector. (Possibly same issue with the example you have as yours's had both the heavy hammer and disconnector glitch). After a lot of money in ammo and replacing the entire inside parts, I finally gave up and introduced it to my anvil and five lb. I ended up using a Hand sledge and my anvil to fix it permanently. (Bigger Hammer Syndrome). . No way I would sell the gun as it was a very unreliable sidearm. Dangerously unreliable! Another huge issue is although it is advertised as a forged frame and slide, is the barrel and slide were dead soft. The gun shot itself loose in very short order. I tightened the slide to frame and within 200 rounds it was sloppy loose again. Even if they did use the steels listed and forged, they completely missed the heat treat regardless of what it really is made of. (I've been shooting 1911's for over 50 years. My carry 1911 and 2011's are Les Baer TRS and Staccato C-2. I didn't expect their level of such low quality in the Girsan and I did expect it to be able to get thru at least one mag without issues. Which it rarely did. Took over a 1000 rounds to finally give up. GRRRRRR!!!!! (My Wife bought it for my B'day and didn't want to hurt her feelings as she saved for it and I very much appreciate it. Not many Wifes buy their Husbands a gun for a gift, but it couldn't be saved) KnifeMaker/Retired after over 47+ years in the Craft
That's odd. I have a .45 commander from Girsan, only had feed issues for the first 2 or 3 rounds in the first mag. Installed a holosun red dot with a custom plate.... and I over tightened one of the screws. Broke it inside the slide. Couldn't get it out. Suffice it to say, the red dot is now permanently attached. Other than that, I've had zero issues since. I love that gun. Seriously thinking about this 2311.
@@southnyourmindthat’s probably because the “1911” design and parts were made around the .45 ACP….the 1911 9mms are known to have more issues than a .45 ACP 1911. All you have to do to change the 1911 to 9mm is a barrel/feed ramp, extractor, and ejector all other parts were designed around a different cartridge. Not saying 9mm 1911/2011s are not reliable you just have to do a lot more tuning and custom fitting with parts or designing parts to make it reliable hence why the “quality 2011s” are over $1500-$2000. I love 9mm 2011/1911s so don’t take me as talking shit on the platform as I currently have a Prodigy 4.25, RIA Tac Ultra MS Single Stack with the full Dust Cover (kind of rare now), a Apollo 11 4.9, and a Cosaint Arms COS21….absolutely love those guns but the only gun is trust my life to is honestly my Springfield Prodigy after I had everything replaced with different Springs (every spring), Tool Steel Internals, and I had a Marvel Ramp cut for the Disconnector….now it’s smooth as butter (it’s about as smooth as my dads Atlas) and it hasn’t had a malfunction in 1200 rounds.
Why not just buy a modern Glock based RELIABLE pistols for a fraction of the money? That's a lot of trouble and money just to look cool Larping and posing in the mirror.😮 The whole 2311 fad is so Harley Davidson 😢
@@cliffordrandell735 It is 2022, not 2311. Unless you are a real avid Hand Gunner, you will never understand. Why a Rolex if Timex keeps time. Why do they bother making Ferrari's, Lambo's, or any other exotic. I mean. Won't a little cheap compact get you there? If I have to explain it to you, It is already a waste of anyone's time to try. KnifeMaker
I remember forever ago when you were starting off showing off the Blue Alpha Battle belt. I have one in woodland as that’s what my personal application is for.
Handled one, and unfortunately, it felt cheaply made, it should be priced less. The Tisas Br9 Night Stalker surprisingly, feels alot better in quality and function. It is priced lower than the 2311 but pretty solid with threaded barrel and all. 👍
Yeah, I ran it at an event and I ran several mags with zero problems . By the end of the hour I brought over Honest and he started to have malfunctions.
Great video!! Just wanted to let you know, I have been a subscriber for well over two years now. While watching this I double checked during your prompt, and Damn…..I was unsubscribed!! NEVER had this happen before on any channel. Needless to say I am now subscribed again.
So Mike, you spoke about and showed a round falling out of the magwell when you took the mag out. That happens all the time with my Staccato C2. Has that not happened with your Staccato ever? Happens a lot to me.
@@TinkerTactical ya…I came to the same conclusion. I am using Staccato magazines and it happens with several but doesn’t affect anything as far as shooting or reliability. It’s just when I get home and take a mag out…a round will always fall out after the magazine. At least it functions fine.
@@TacticalConsiderations thank you for the feedback. I am using Staccato mags but I think it is the feedlips. Other shooters have said I can bend them a little to fix but at least it runs reliably.
First off i love your content and videos. I know a bunch of people have talked about the tisas b9r ds. The 5inch is a freaking shooter and i have a DPM full length guide rod with the heavier spring.. she has been nothing but amazing!!
Yeah, I have 4 hammer fired semi-auto pistols at this point and a relative asked me when we went to the range if there was anything else I'd ever want to buy and I said (picking up a 1911 from the rental rack) "Maybe a 1911, because of the history, two world wars, all that..." Nah. Anything that relies on that much precision to be reliable, no thanks.
Thank you for doing this video and for showing the QC issues you found. I hope that Girsan goes back to the drawing board and resolves the Issues. Maybe once the pistol is tweaked and 100% reliable, they might be worthy of buying compared to the Prodigy price point wise. How would you compare the Tisas 1911 line to other 1911s? I have seen numerous good reviews of Tisas. Another regards to the holster, On one hand I like it’s ability to holster many different pistols. On the other that you have to use very specific WMLs. I just happen to like Olight’s product better.
Great video but not a chance would this gun get my money with an 8 lb trigger. 1 magazine, and so many qc issues. I'd like to see a review on the new tisas 2011 ds carry. Street price sub 725
Thanks for the pure honesty with this review. Always greatly appreciated. It truly helps to understand the positives and negatives so good choices are made.
I have the MAC 9 DS by Tisas with over 1500 rounds through it with 0 issues. Smokes my Prodigy after tuning the sear spring to get the trigger down to 3lbs.
You should take a look at the Alpha Foxtrot S15. It has a lot of 2011 features and has been exceptional for me. The only issue I have encountered is a weak mag release spring 1000 rounds in.
Mike Silva here from Glendale AZ also waiting to see reviews on the Tisas double stack 1911's extremely curious 🤔 thanks man! I was in tactical studio yesterday and saw them and the price point and was definitely wowed.
Mac 9 and tisas 1911 DS atm are the only 2011s that function with hp ammo, the apollo 11 wont cycle hp, next step up is prodigy but even then it has its own issues, mim and full of cast parts... the best bang for buck for a proper 2011 is a platypus, Bul armory 2011, and ofc sticcato.... hopefully over the next few years 2011s that are combat reliable like a Bul, sticcato, atlas, nighthawk become more affordable to the average joe... anything below those models I wouldnt consider combat reliable, there range toys
Do you have a favorite? Canik, Walther or Smith and Wesson.? You like all 3 on the videos l've watched the curious if you had a favorite. Looking at a Canik, PDP, Glock 19 or a SW 2.0. for my next buy. Thank you
I have a Girsan 1911... took about 1000 rounds to get it broken in, maybe about 10 malfunctions throughout those 1000 rounds (factory mag & aftermarkets)... zero malfunctions last 5000 rounds (factory, Wilson & Kimber mags)
I have the Live free armory Apollo 11 , Under a grand and I have 2,000 rounds on it and no issues , Made in Melbourne FL completely! After watching your review I feel my Apollo is a much better gun , but would love to see you review one !
@@TacticalConsiderations hoping to get it to 2,500 tomorrow, just put a Dawson Precision mag well, tool less guide rod and got a 9lb and 10lb recoil spring to see if I can get some more speed out of it ! It’s definitely not gonna be as nice as some of the guns you have but for the price I think it is awesome 🤩
I've had the same issue with a round falling from magwell when removing a loaded mag with my Staccato C2. Guess it's a known issue with their magazines
Can we trade the CNC cut time on trigger and hammer for at least 2 mags? Also I have the Regard by Girsan,they work well hopefully they can iron this one out over time and experience with making this.but I think the MAC or RIA Tac ultra probably better options.
Love how your buddy Jonathon said that a RI would be better. Then you don't even mention it/them before going up to the Prodigy. Love the reviews Mike. Still unfathomable to me that you are only at 250K'ish subs, you should be much higher based on everything you do! Hugely underrated!!!!
Working on building out a blue alpha duty belt they have some good gear I like it. Also that was sad to see the witness fail. Hopefully it can make a comeback appreciate the honesty.
The next round in the mag slides forward a little. Maybe that’s why that round came out. I notice it with my staccato but I’ve never had a round slide out.
ALERT: I purchased this firearm in 10 mm. I have an EAA Witness Stock 2 that I use for steel plate shooting and just love. Foolishly I thought I was buying comparable quality when I purchased this firearm from them. However, after 100 rounds, the trigger pull was so bad that it was ridiculous. My trigger pull gauge goes to 12 pounds and it was beyond that before it fired. In order to send it to EAA they required me to go through an FFL and pay for shipping both ways. They replaced a couple of parts and the triggers is now set at 5 1/2 pounds. Can’t express how unhappy I am with this firearm. Avoid this gun at all costs! Based on what I’ve been seeing it appears their QC is garbage.
Yup I bought the same Turkish ammo too, left a gross grass seed kind of mess in the gun when I only shot like 100 rounds. Highly recommend staying away from them
So can you buy performance? Yes. Does it make you any better compared to something more affordable but decent? Maybe not. I have a Staccato P with plain irons and it runs well and is super well made, however with decent duty pistol with optics and an upgraded trigger, I find I'm more accurate with the affordable duty pistol mostly because optics makes a world of difference in accuracy (plus some trigger time as well). Love 2011s, but they are not my go to pistol if there's an emergency, but if you can afford one, go for it. Maybe for a little more clam, but save some money, go with a $1K striker fire. It will serve you just as well.
Thank you, thank you. I was considering buying one of these but not anymore. You and several other people I watch have said the same thing. And 2 of them you had on this show, platypus Here I come.
My first 1911 was the Girsan hunter 10mm, 6 inch. Steel frame, no issues whatsoever, aside from regular break in. I have the 2311 too, thanks to my superb experience with their 1911. Extremely disappointed.
I have one of those other Sub-$1000 1911 double stack pistols, the LFA Apollo 11. It is pretty reliable as long as I use good ammo. If I run the cheapo 147 grain polymer coated stuff I wish I had not bought... not so much. Lesson learned, buy good ammo Over all, I really like the pistol but I would never trust it as a carry gun. My new Stealth Arms Platypus, on the other hand, would definitely be acceptable for CCW even if it does have a 5" barrel. I can't imagine how good those >$3000 guns *SHOULD* be compared to the $1600 Platypus I received today. I really was hoping the Girsan 2311 and the RIA double stack pistols would be good but everything I have seen indicates they need a bit of polishing to make them run properly. Too bad, I might have bought one of them instead of the LFA. Thanks for the review!
your grip safety issue is because they are adjusted for how normal people hold the gun. You cram your hand up too high you miss pressing on the memory pad. If you insist on doing this just pin the grip safety.
I have the same pistol, and I really like mine. But I got it for a project and a ranger gun not to carry, and yes, throw that red dot as far as you can. 😂
9 times out of 10, I'd save some money and go with a Girsan, but I gotta say, now that Springfield has worked out the kinks in the Prodigy, I think that is a better deal.
Played with one in the store. The trigger was absolute trash. The slide to frame feel was gritty as if it was poorly fit. And the finish up close just plain looked bad. Id rather pay a lot more for better made and better fit with a good trigger. If i had to fix all the issues, it basically cost the same if not more
Thanks for the video. This is disappointing... l have a Girsan 9mm commander 1911 and it has been excellent. I was hoping this would be as well, but all the reviews l have seen have had issues.
Sheesh that grip safety is worse than my XDs Mod2, I mean I think if EAA focused on a handful of pistols versus dozens in one year this probably wouldn't happen.
Might as well throw in the Tisas Night Stalker for a comparison. Ppl need accept you get what you pay for. If you can't pay for higher quality then don't expect it. If you can pay for higher quality then reward yourself.
I'll keep saying it over and over. This channel is beyond underrated. You do a amazing job man, I appreciate the work you do for your videos. Also like how you have your own style of videos. No one else really does it your way. Keep it up man. I'll keep praying you get the recognition you deserve
I truly appreciate that.
Just found him the other day. I can agree, but we know youtube is left and don't really share true American values
I'm not normally one to leave a comment on any video. That being said, Great job. This is the first Tactical Consideration video I've ever watched. The review was exactly what I was looking for, the information was spot on, thank you for that. The main message I wanted to convey to you was that some folks are meant to to videos and some are not. I appreciated your way of relaying information. For me, your video was the right combination of product information and personality. You were sincere in your comments, but not cramming opinions down the viewers throat. I think you can understand where I'm coming from. Great job, in my opinion. I'm now a subscriber to your channel.
Loving my MAC 9 DS (Turcatto). No issues yet and very accurate.
Good to hear.
Definitely buying a MAC DS. My MAC JSOC is very nice. As nice as my Sig Scorpion. ❤
Tisas DS next! Even cheaper than the 2311 but their 1911s seem to be better off than Girsans. Thank you for these videos saving us the expense.
I am working on getting one.
Thank you for the review, I will recommend a review of the MAC 9mm DS, almost the same price but much better quality, no MIM parts, Bul barrel, better trigger
I will reach out to them.
@@TacticalConsiderations please do, $880 street price with all the non MIM parts and Bul barrel and OR. So far I didn’t see any issues with it, looks like it’s reliable better than the Prodigy.
Doing my best brother.
@@OBZ74 It is my understanding that SA has addressed the growing pain issue with the Prodigy and has become a reliable product. I looked at one and ended up going with the Staccato C-2. Contrary to all the tube praise, the Staccatos have issues as well. Mine is ultra reliable, however irritating things like a drop in fire control group, not hand fitted and a soft hammer that acts like a low cost poorly heat treated MIM part. Where the hammer contacts and rides the bullet stripper d inside the slide when cocking in firing is badly worn. Dead Soft!
I have a friend that works at a lgs and enjoys his Tisas. No complaints. It is a government single stack model.
My Les Baer has a stainless hammer which should be softer than tool steel yet after a few thousand of rounds has virtually no wear. something very wrong at this price point.
KnifeMaker/Retired after over 47+ years in the Craft
@@michaell397 I am leaning towards the Prodigy for awhile now and I think it would be a much better firearm when you replace the internal parts with EGW ignition kit for $135.00. SF has a great customer service and they will fix any issues with their product.
I picked up a 9mm commander of theirs almost two years ago. Worst 1911 I've ever had the displeasure of shooting. Dropped mags, stove piped nearly every mag. Replaced the extractor with a Wilson and tuned it. Still did it. Only 1911 I've not been able to tuned and when I could get it shooting, the next day. Horror Story all over again.
Stove piped over and over again. With optic, and without. Crimping the mouth of the case. Tried Cobra Mag's and Wilsons and nothing worked.
Trigger pull was just under 11 lbs. Turned out that the leaf spring was very bent and putting wild pressure on the hammer and disconnector. (Possibly same issue with the example you have as yours's had both the heavy hammer and disconnector glitch).
After a lot of money in ammo and replacing the entire inside parts, I finally gave up and introduced it to my anvil and five lb. I ended up using a Hand sledge and my anvil to fix it permanently. (Bigger Hammer Syndrome). . No way I would sell the gun as it was a very unreliable sidearm. Dangerously unreliable!
Another huge issue is although it is advertised as a forged frame and slide, is the barrel and slide were dead soft. The gun shot itself loose in very short order. I tightened the slide to frame and within 200 rounds it was sloppy loose again. Even if they did use the steels listed and forged, they completely missed the heat treat regardless of what it really is made of.
(I've been shooting 1911's for over 50 years. My carry 1911 and 2011's are Les Baer TRS and Staccato C-2.
I didn't expect their level of such low quality in the Girsan and I did expect it to be able to get thru at least one mag without issues. Which it rarely did. Took over a 1000 rounds to finally give up. GRRRRRR!!!!!
(My Wife bought it for my B'day and didn't want to hurt her feelings as she saved for it and I very much appreciate it. Not many Wifes buy their Husbands a gun for a gift, but it couldn't be saved)
KnifeMaker/Retired after over 47+ years in the Craft
yeah not a super surprise.
That's odd. I have a .45 commander from Girsan, only had feed issues for the first 2 or 3 rounds in the first mag. Installed a holosun red dot with a custom plate.... and I over tightened one of the screws. Broke it inside the slide. Couldn't get it out. Suffice it to say, the red dot is now permanently attached. Other than that, I've had zero issues since. I love that gun. Seriously thinking about this 2311.
@@southnyourmindthat’s probably because the “1911” design and parts were made around the .45 ACP….the 1911 9mms are known to have more issues than a .45 ACP 1911. All you have to do to change the 1911 to 9mm is a barrel/feed ramp, extractor, and ejector all other parts were designed around a different cartridge. Not saying 9mm 1911/2011s are not reliable you just have to do a lot more tuning and custom fitting with parts or designing parts to make it reliable hence why the “quality 2011s” are over $1500-$2000. I love 9mm 2011/1911s so don’t take me as talking shit on the platform as I currently have a Prodigy 4.25, RIA Tac Ultra MS Single Stack with the full Dust Cover (kind of rare now), a Apollo 11 4.9, and a Cosaint Arms COS21….absolutely love those guns but the only gun is trust my life to is honestly my Springfield Prodigy after I had everything replaced with different Springs (every spring), Tool Steel Internals, and I had a Marvel Ramp cut for the Disconnector….now it’s smooth as butter (it’s about as smooth as my dads Atlas) and it hasn’t had a malfunction in 1200 rounds.
Why not just buy a modern Glock based RELIABLE pistols for a fraction of the money? That's a lot of trouble and money just to look cool Larping and posing in the mirror.😮
The whole 2311 fad is so Harley Davidson 😢
@@cliffordrandell735 It is 2022, not 2311. Unless you are a real avid Hand Gunner, you will never understand. Why a Rolex if Timex keeps time. Why do they bother making Ferrari's, Lambo's, or any other exotic. I mean. Won't a little cheap compact get you there?
If I have to explain it to you, It is already a waste of anyone's time to try.
KnifeMaker
I remember forever ago when you were starting off showing off the Blue Alpha Battle belt. I have one in woodland as that’s what my personal application is for.
Yup still rocking the same one 5 years later.
I have the tisas 2011 variant and love it so far.
How many rds through it
I need to get that one in. I have been hearing good and bad at 1k rounds.
1200 rounds only two malfunctions.
Handled one, and unfortunately, it felt cheaply made, it should be priced less. The Tisas Br9 Night Stalker surprisingly, feels alot better in quality and function. It is priced lower than the 2311 but pretty solid with threaded barrel and all. 👍
Yeah I was hoping it was gonna fly but it crashed.
Tisas has a 2011 version also. Im VERY impressed with my tisas 1911.
How many rds have you put down range with it
@@jayjones6904 I just got it, only 250
@@jayjones6904 I just got it, only 250
I am working on it.
I had a trigger job done and replaced dot with a Holosun. I’m very happy with it now with over 1K rounds through it.
Good to hear.
and it is down to 556USD
I want it to work! Do You?
Nah, there are few reviews on this piece, 9lbs trigger, FTE,FTF, watched Outlaw review and it was a train wreck…
Yeah, I ran it at an event and I ran several mags with zero problems . By the end of the hour I brought over Honest and he started to have malfunctions.
As somewhat of a poor I’m hoping it works 🙏
Also, The MAC 9 DS has a street price of $880! Cheaper than the Girsan and 10 times better quality. Even better than the prodigy!
well I wanted it to be 100% so bad but unfortunately that was not the case.
I just got the tisas Mac 9 and I love it, would love to see you do a review on it soon
I love my MAC 9. Tune the sear spring and you can easily get the trigger down to 3lbs or less.
Working on it.
Great video!! Just wanted to let you know, I have been a subscriber for well over two years now. While watching this I double checked during your prompt, and Damn…..I was unsubscribed!! NEVER had this happen before on any channel. Needless to say I am now subscribed again.
I appreciate that.
So Mike, you spoke about and showed a round falling out of the magwell when you took the mag out. That happens all the time with my Staccato C2. Has that not happened with your Staccato ever? Happens a lot to me.
Usually an issue with the magazine lips or the extractor being barely too tight.
@@TinkerTactical ya…I came to the same conclusion. I am using Staccato magazines and it happens with several but doesn’t affect anything as far as shooting or reliability. It’s just when I get home and take a mag out…a round will always fall out after the magazine. At least it functions fine.
I have not had that on any other 2011 or 1911 so far that I own. It could be mag lips, or parts fit in the frame like the extractor.
@@TacticalConsiderations thank you for the feedback. I am using Staccato mags but I think it is the feedlips. Other shooters have said I can bend them a little to fix but at least it runs reliably.
First off i love your content and videos. I know a bunch of people have talked about the tisas b9r ds. The 5inch is a freaking shooter and i have a DPM full length guide rod with the heavier spring.. she has been nothing but amazing!!
I have to get one in for sure.
I've always thought of 2011s as the luxury buy. Unless I were great at gunsmithing I'm not sure I'd bother with a budget 2011
I get that.
Yeah, I have 4 hammer fired semi-auto pistols at this point and a relative asked me when we went to the range if there was anything else I'd ever want to buy and I said (picking up a 1911 from the rental rack) "Maybe a 1911, because of the history, two world wars, all that..." Nah. Anything that relies on that much precision to be reliable, no thanks.
Thank you for doing this video and for showing the QC issues you found. I hope that Girsan goes back to the drawing board and resolves the Issues. Maybe once the pistol is tweaked and 100% reliable, they might be worthy of buying compared to the Prodigy price point wise. How would you compare the Tisas 1911 line to other 1911s? I have seen numerous good reviews of Tisas.
Another regards to the holster, On one hand I like it’s ability to holster many different pistols. On the other that you have to use very specific WMLs. I just happen to like Olight’s product better.
I am working on getting the tisas and others in.
I just picked up the tisas duty yesterday, I’ll be spreading freedom seeds this weekend.
Let me know how it goes.
Its daytime at the range. Do you really need a mounted light ? or even irion sights
Is this a joke ? Please tell me it is.
Great video but not a chance would this gun get my money with an 8 lb trigger. 1 magazine, and so many qc issues.
I'd like to see a review on the new tisas 2011 ds carry. Street price sub 725
I am working on getting several others in.
@@TacticalConsiderations definitely look forward to seeing those
Thanks for the pure honesty with this review. Always greatly appreciated. It truly helps to understand the positives and negatives so good choices are made.
NO problem .. I was hoping it was going to be problem or mostly problem free.
I have the MAC 9 DS by Tisas with over 1500 rounds through it with 0 issues. Smokes my Prodigy after tuning the sear spring to get the trigger down to 3lbs.
Nice I need to get that in.
You should take a look at the Alpha Foxtrot S15. It has a lot of 2011 features and has been exceptional for me. The only issue I have encountered is a weak mag release spring 1000 rounds in.
I've an S15 too. I'm just under 1000 rounds (960ish). It's been exceptional for me, as well!
I have been looking into all the budget options.
Mike Silva here from Glendale AZ also waiting to see reviews on the Tisas double stack 1911's extremely curious 🤔 thanks man! I was in tactical studio yesterday and saw them and the price point and was definitely wowed.
Working on it.
Mac 9 and tisas 1911 DS atm are the only 2011s that function with hp ammo, the apollo 11 wont cycle hp, next step up is prodigy but even then it has its own issues, mim and full of cast parts... the best bang for buck for a proper 2011 is a platypus, Bul armory 2011, and ofc sticcato.... hopefully over the next few years 2011s that are combat reliable like a Bul, sticcato, atlas, nighthawk become more affordable to the average joe... anything below those models I wouldnt consider combat reliable, there range toys
I had a 4.25 Prodigy and that was a nightmare
Have a 4.25 Bul Armory SAS Tac 2 now and I’m around 1000 rounds - no failures as of yet
@@oceaser6977 absolutely, you get what you pay for with 2011s, you really do...
The BUL is the best option under 2k so far overall.
Sadly, the 1911/2011 style piece is still to far out of reach, but it’s still good to learn more about them.
Thank you, sir!
I will be trying out more of these budget 2011's.
Try the live free armory apollo 11
I have run it.. I just need to get one in.
Do you think changing the sear spring would help
Maybe but his one is just a dog its needs a full rebuild.
That thumbnail with the sun beams coming from the end of the barrel is fire!
Much appreciated.
What is your opinion of this (Girsan) vs Prodigy vs the Live Free Armory Apollo? I'm seriously considering the LFA Apollo compact (Commander).
Prodigy all day.
Do you have a favorite?
Canik, Walther or Smith and Wesson.? You like all 3 on the videos l've watched the curious if you had a favorite. Looking at a Canik, PDP, Glock 19 or a SW 2.0. for my next buy.
Thank you
PDP.
I have a Girsan 1911... took about 1000 rounds to get it broken in, maybe about 10 malfunctions throughout those 1000 rounds (factory mag & aftermarkets)... zero malfunctions last 5000 rounds (factory, Wilson & Kimber mags)
Interesting.
Hows this pistol shooting for you still? Im actually looking into purchasing their 2311 10mm witness model for my carry gun.
Well its been back to the range for another session and its still not great A few hiccups here and there. Its a range only piece in my opinion.
@TacticalConsiderations ok. I'll take that in consideration. What's your recommendation on a carry 10mm?
@@jamesdelong6401 Tisas D10 or Tisas Yukon
@@123karismith Good morning. 🇺🇸☕️. I'll look into both
I have the Live free armory Apollo 11 , Under a grand and I have 2,000 rounds on it and no issues , Made in Melbourne FL completely! After watching your review I feel my Apollo is a much better gun , but would love to see you review one !
I'm working on getting one.
@@TacticalConsiderations hoping to get it to 2,500 tomorrow, just put a Dawson Precision mag well, tool less guide rod and got a 9lb and 10lb recoil spring to see if I can get some more speed out of it ! It’s definitely not gonna be as nice as some of the guns you have but for the price I think it is awesome 🤩
I've had the same issue with a round falling from magwell when removing a loaded mag with my Staccato C2. Guess it's a known issue with their magazines
Interesting.
Would really really like to see you do a review of the Apollo 11 made by live free armory
Working on it.
Can we trade the CNC cut time on trigger and hammer for at least 2 mags? Also I have the Regard by Girsan,they work well hopefully they can iron this one out over time and experience with making this.but I think the MAC or RIA Tac ultra probably better options.
I get that.
Love how your buddy Jonathon said that a RI would be better. Then you don't even mention it/them before going up to the Prodigy. Love the reviews Mike. Still unfathomable to me that you are only at 250K'ish subs, you should be much higher based on everything you do! Hugely underrated!!!!
I don't personally own a rock island or I would have gone there for sure.
@@TacticalConsiderations wait there's guns of Jonathan that you haven't fired? Thought you two had fired most of each other's by now. 😬
Thank you for that honest review.
No problem.
Great video dude, and great shooting from a fellow arizonian!
Also...chandler scheels is having a sale on ammo right now.
Heck yah man ..
Working on building out a blue alpha duty belt they have some good gear I like it. Also that was sad to see the witness fail. Hopefully it can make a comeback appreciate the honesty.
BA is great stuff.
@@TacticalConsiderations I agree bro glad I found them.
The next round in the mag slides forward a little. Maybe that’s why that round came out. I notice it with my staccato but I’ve never had a round slide out.
I have never had one come out of a 1911 before. I think its the feed lips spreading.
@@TacticalConsiderations could be brother. I use a few different manufacturers. Great video! I definitely enjoyed it. 🫡🇺🇸
I owned one Girsan. Glad I sold it. Mine shot nice when it would go bang when I pulled the trigger. The problem was it would not go bang often
I will see how this one runs after 1k.
ALERT: I purchased this firearm in 10 mm. I have an EAA Witness Stock 2 that I use for steel plate shooting and just love. Foolishly I thought I was buying comparable quality when I purchased this firearm from them. However, after 100 rounds, the trigger pull was so bad that it was ridiculous. My trigger pull gauge goes to 12 pounds and it was beyond that before it fired. In order to send it to EAA they required me to go through an FFL and pay for shipping both ways. They replaced a couple of parts and the triggers is now set at 5 1/2 pounds. Can’t express how unhappy I am with this firearm. Avoid this gun at all costs! Based on what I’ve been seeing it appears their QC is garbage.
Thanks for watching and commenting ..
Yup I bought the same Turkish ammo too, left a gross grass seed kind of mess in the gun when I only shot like 100 rounds. Highly recommend staying away from them
Yup ingman or something its really bad.
Looks good but personally I don't see the allure of a single action semi. IMO da/sa is the way to go.
I am the opposite I hate da triggers.
@TacticalConsiderations yes but in alot of cases you can cock and lock to mitigate that
You should compare others to this one. I love my prodigy and would like to know how good the Girsan is vs Prodigy vs Mac DS Vs Tisas.
I will when others come in but his one really crapped the bed.
So can you buy performance? Yes. Does it make you any better compared to something more affordable but decent? Maybe not. I have a Staccato P with plain irons and it runs well and is super well made, however with decent duty pistol with optics and an upgraded trigger, I find I'm more accurate with the affordable duty pistol mostly because optics makes a world of difference in accuracy (plus some trigger time as well). Love 2011s, but they are not my go to pistol if there's an emergency, but if you can afford one, go for it. Maybe for a little more clam, but save some money, go with a $1K striker fire. It will serve you just as well.
Yes you can buy performance for sure.
Try the tisas?
Working on it.
Thank you, thank you. I was considering buying one of these but not anymore. You and several other people I watch have said the same thing. And 2 of them you had on this show, platypus Here I come.
Platy is a gem.
The review I’ve been waiting on
I was hoping to get it out sooner but I needed to give it at least two days on the range.
Well hopefully this answers some questions.
@@TacticalConsiderations I really wanted this to work. I appreciate the honesty in your videos
I did too but unfortunately its not just me having these serious issues.
Grip safeties should travel no more than 1/3rd of the distance down from fully engaged to releasing the trigger stirrup.
This one is grindy and a long road.
Asked you guys for this video. And u delivered
I do my best to move content as fast as possible.
Can you do the new Beretta gts? I love your breakdown and review of the xi
If I can get it in.
My favorite part is the exposed battery under the optic
Right lol.
My first 1911 was the Girsan hunter 10mm, 6 inch. Steel frame, no issues whatsoever, aside from regular break in. I have the 2311 too, thanks to my superb experience with their 1911. Extremely disappointed.
Glad you are having good luck with them. This one has to be sent back in for warranty work.
@@TacticalConsiderations Yup, my 2311 had the same issues as yours. The 1911 was rock solid.
Can’t imagine a scenario where 1k for any gun is “budget” no excuse for these issues at that price. My opinion of course.
in the modern market for a 2011 that is reliable 1k would be a dream.
That blue alpha belt looks like a beast of a belt!
Its a great belt I have run it hard for years now.
Good review. Looks like they need to do some fine tuning. Like your partner said, a Rock Island would be a better bet and it half the cost
Little bit of work to be done.
I have one of those other Sub-$1000 1911 double stack pistols, the LFA Apollo 11. It is pretty reliable as long as I use good ammo. If I run the cheapo 147 grain polymer coated stuff I wish I had not bought... not so much. Lesson learned, buy good ammo Over all, I really like the pistol but I would never trust it as a carry gun.
My new Stealth Arms Platypus, on the other hand, would definitely be acceptable for CCW even if it does have a 5" barrel. I can't imagine how good those >$3000 guns *SHOULD* be compared to the $1600 Platypus I received today.
I really was hoping the Girsan 2311 and the RIA double stack pistols would be good but everything I have seen indicates they need a bit of polishing to make them run properly. Too bad, I might have bought one of them instead of the LFA. Thanks for the review!
How do you like the LFA and the platypus in comparison? I was stuck between those and the Tisas night stalker
I am working on getting in the competitors.
Can you check out the Mac 9 DS ?
I am trying to get that one in.
Hopefully they go the PSA route and listen and provide fixes for known issues. Unlikely, but would be cool.
Well I will keep an eye out.
Man you gotta try the Mac 9 DS at just over 1k for the pistol!
Working on it.
What's up with that. When you put a round in the gun. And when you take out the mag the round run out
bad fit
your grip safety issue is because they are adjusted for how normal people hold the gun. You cram your hand up too high you miss pressing on the memory pad. If you insist on doing this just pin the grip safety.
I held one the other day and the back strap safety was a bit tight, but I want cause I’m a baller on a budget and I like guns.
budget banging.
Solid review!
Much appreciated.
Bul Armory or Prodigy? Which is better?
Bul Armory by far.
BUL
As usual, great content. Thank you for your time. Stay safe and God Bless.
Much appreciated
Got rid of mine the first week I got it .And went with the MAC 9DS 🤯let me tell you it was the best decision I made the firearm is PHENOMENAL!!!
yeah this one is a tough pill.
Great review! I've seen other review and let's say, this firearm won't be in the collection. I did have high hopes for it though.
Much appreciated.
I think the Tisas Mac 9 is better
They def should give more mags the Apollo also only comes with one I think
I agree.
Do the Tisas version and the MAC... you will not be dissapointed.
I am working on it.
Tisas mac9 for the win!! 1000$ and way better than my prodigy and not for off from my staccato c2
I am tryin got get one in.
I’m going to have to get myself one of those 😎👍🏼
Its a project.
@@TacticalConsiderations yeah It’ll need a little bit of work but that’s ok lol 😂
Would the Springfield Prodigy be a better choice?
Great video.
Thanks for the visit
I have the same pistol, and I really like mine. But I got it for a project and a ranger gun not to carry, and yes, throw that red dot as far as you can. 😂
Over the berm lol.
@@TacticalConsiderations 🤣
9 times out of 10, I'd save some money and go with a Girsan, but I gotta say, now that Springfield has worked out the kinks in the Prodigy, I think that is a better deal.
It is. Both my prodigy pistols are way ahead on this
Cosaint arms is the go to for upgrades from what I've seen. But that puts the gun at a little over 2 grand
Not worth it.
You sir are my go to for handguns and i yhank you.
Much appreciated.
Thanks for the review, I think I’ll be sticking with my 10mm XDM 4.5”. It’s a lovely Skippy pb color and yes, it’s my EDC. 😊
Better off.
You're better off getting CZ75 hammer fired pistol for a lot less money. Compact or full size. Double stacked 15 - 17 rounds. Safety or decocker.
I have to agree with you on that.
Look at it as a starter platform where you upgrade it then it will be fine
Nah its not worth updating .. Better off going straight out of the gate with the bul armory or pordigy or others.
Played with one in the store. The trigger was absolute trash. The slide to frame feel was gritty as if it was poorly fit. And the finish up close just plain looked bad. Id rather pay a lot more for better made and better fit with a good trigger. If i had to fix all the issues, it basically cost the same if not more
Seems pretty common.
Thanks for the video. This is disappointing... l have a Girsan 9mm commander 1911 and it has been excellent. I was hoping this would be as well, but all the reviews l have seen have had issues.
Yeah I was hoping it would do better.
I hear the Tisas is better.. the new apollo compact 2011 is probably the best for the price
Yup I am working on getting more in.
@@TacticalConsiderations yeah my brother has been thinking about getting one.. he likes the alpha foxtrot S-15 and the Apollo pistol
Sheesh that grip safety is worse than my XDs Mod2, I mean I think if EAA focused on a handful of pistols versus dozens in one year this probably wouldn't happen.
yeah its not great.
For me if it don’t have a bull barrel and rear sights with optic cut ion want it
I get that.
Someone is afraid of 10mm. Or just cant be accurate with higher calibers. Soft men need soft recoil. Great content bro 😎 love the channel
Ahahah I am soft in life
Yep letting you know
Yup for sure.
This makes me sad..I've been wanting a 2011 that won't kill my bank account
I am working on getting in 3 other budget versions that are supposedly better.
Might as well throw in the Tisas Night Stalker for a comparison.
Ppl need accept you get what you pay for. If you can't pay for higher quality then don't expect it. If you can pay for higher quality then reward yourself.
I will .. trying to get all the budget versions in now.
@TacticalConsiderations
Sounds good.
How about some
"Chillaxin" by Euge Groove for your specs music sometime.
Ill pick a RIA 1911 anytime...rather than that...
Or Id pick a Tisas 1911..
I need to get in the other new 2011 budget options.
Curious, Will you be doing a 1911 review on the 1911 Raider by Tisas?
Hard "no". QC like Yugo in the 80's and one mag? Nope.
Dude my sister had a yugo in like 1995 lol. Little red box one.
@TacticalConsiderations I had a Ford Festiva for a minute because it got 40+ mpg...my big ass fit in it perfectly too.
the mac 9 DS same price but better
I am working on getting it.
6:43 that guy behind literally said 'out of chamber' lmaooooo
He was thinking the ramp on the barrel failed.
👍
Thanks.
We have one in the shop and had to send one off already. Trigger is AWFUL.
Oh boy.
For $1000, Id spend just a little more and get a Prodigy or Shadow 2
I agree.