Das Boot Directors Cut (Part 2/2): Unveiling the Brilliance of this WW2 Movie

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  • In this video, I'll be sharing my honest and heartfelt reaction to the highly acclaimed Directors Cut of this Oscar Winning Submarine World War Two movie. Prepare to dive deep into the enthralling world of this iconic film as I unravel its mesmerizing storyline and unforgettable characters. Join me on this incredible cinematic adventure as we explore the depths of human emotions, intense war drama, and the raw reality of submarine warfare during World War II.
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  • @JTRetroReactions
    @JTRetroReactions  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hey all - thanks for joining the premiere and checking out my video. Please let me know your thoughts on the movie and the reaction and also whether you prefer the Directors Cut released on 1997 or the original 1981 version. I think I prefer the Directors Cut. Also, if you want to check out the 4.5 hours of unedited reaction footage as well as exclusive reactions such as Band of Brothers - you can avail of my 7 day free trial at the link below:
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    • @Observerl
      @Observerl หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well, that's the problem with films that aren't translated correctly. Your question at 13:37: Why does he shout "Faster, faster" when he wants to dive and is still up there?
      That's because he DOESN'T want to dive. A submarine is faster above water than submerged. The captain wanted to try to reach the African coast in the hope that if if everything goes wrong could at least bring the crew ashore.
      When the ALARM command at 13:25 is given from the bridge, the order to flood/dive the boat follows automatically, but the captain himself then shouts "DO NOT FLOOD/Dive!"
      This command is not only incorrectly reproduced in the subtitles, it is not reproduced at all!
      And that explains your lack of understanding and the question at 13:37.
      The original command for diving in German is not diving but flooding, which refers to the pressure vessels which are then filled, causing the boat to dive.
      This was just one example of many misunderstandings you have about this film. It is due to incorrect or completely missing translation. Films like this should either be watched professionally dubbed/translated or you should be able to speak the spoken language.
      Unfortunately, due to the incorrect and missing subtitles, you missed more than half of the film.
      Oh yes, and the original length of the film is over 6 hours. Even the director's cut is a shortened version, longer than the theatrical version but still 2 hours shorter than the whole film.
      Just wanted to say it

  • @Brain4Zombie
    @Brain4Zombie 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Petersen's masterpiece. Premiered 1981, memories of World War 2, which we Germans started, was still alive for some people. At an international film festival the audience clapped at the beginning, when they showed that 30.000 german seamen died. But this audience got quieter and quieter and at the scene where the boat starts rising to the surface they cheered, but this time for the german crew. At the end of the movie there were standing ovations.
    Wolfgang Petersen manged to show that nothing about war is heroic, in fact he showed the brutality and futility.

  • @CoIntelPro23
    @CoIntelPro23 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    They switch to red lights because your eyes adapt better to the darkness.

    • @JTRetroReactions
      @JTRetroReactions  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thanks cointelpro for watching the videos and for the comment. I thought that may be the case but I wasn't sure as I'm not very familiar with Subs and their operation. Thanks for clarifying

  • @davebeattie9573
    @davebeattie9573 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    A typical WWII Royal Navy destroyer had about 30 depth charges on board, and these were dropped in patterns. A patern of three, one behind and one to each side, means a maximum of ten attack runs.
    Remember these destroyers have probably had previous run ins with U-Boats, and could in all likelyhood run across more. Attacks were more about driving off U-Boats rather than sinking them.
    Few submerged U-Boats could outrun a merchant ship, so the destroyers would force the sub away from the convoy and then catch up with the convoy. So once contact was broken there was no need to continue the attack.

  • @tidenhub71
    @tidenhub71 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    02:27 - At the beginning of the war, the so called "Prisenordnung" was used. You stopped a suspicious ship and checked the papers. If it belonged to the Allies, the crew was sent to the lifeboats and only then was the ship sunk. Because the Americans intervened in the trade war very early on, even though there was no declaration of war yet (they also attacked German submarines), it was no longer possible to proceed according to the "Prisenordnung" . As the war continued at sea, merchant ships were sometimes also equipped with on-board cannons; There were also so-called submarine traps (these were merchant ships that were equipped with weapons like a warship).

    • @JTRetroReactions
      @JTRetroReactions  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching the video mate - interesting comment and some of that I didn't know - so I appreciate you sharing that! Enjoy your weekend!

  • @peterjohannesson6671
    @peterjohannesson6671 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    The reason they travel on the surface both in the convoy attac and at Gibraltar are two: The ww2 submarines moved much faster on surface, sometimes even faster than the destroyers; the sonar operator on the destroyers could pick up the sound of a submerged submarine, but did have problems doing so on one at the surface. They had to trust on visual observations or at Gibraltar on radar which was a very new technology.
    The real captain who is portrayed in the film (he did survive the war) said it was a very accurate and realistic film as it catch the long windedness aboard and the fear when they actually met the british navy.

    • @JTRetroReactions
      @JTRetroReactions  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks Peter for watching the video, the comment and for sharing that information. What you say makes sense regarding the speed on the surface and another commenter also mentioned that Torpedoes travelled faster on the surface as well. I suspected that was the case but as I have very little Naval knowledge - I did not want to assume so thanks for clarifying.
      Per an article I read by the Author many years ago, the Captain was a composite of two real characters as I mentioned in Video commentary - one who was loved by his men but was charged with cowardice and died by suicide in 1943 before he was shot and the other, the one you mentioned who survived the war and who was an effective commander but was not well liked by his men. Enjoy the rest of your weekend.

  • @nightstorm5914
    @nightstorm5914 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yep, the director never led the actors outside for a long time while filming this movie.
    Also this was/is one of the best selling movies from germany in the US, only beaten by "The NeverEnding Story", another huge movie (which was directed/written by Wolfgang Petersen, RIP)

  • @bregjejabra25
    @bregjejabra25 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Best war movie ever.

    • @JTRetroReactions
      @JTRetroReactions  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Totally agree mate and thanks for watching. I love this movie and have since I first seen it when I was about 12 years of age. Enjoy the rest of your weekend!

  • @sebastianberger746
    @sebastianberger746 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The captain stays aslong as possible on surface to built up speed and change the direction. Thats why they end up on a sandbank. Not sure if he had this on his mind but at the end it give them the chance not to die instantly

    • @JTRetroReactions
      @JTRetroReactions  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Makes sense and thanks for watching the video. As I said in commentary I don't have a lot of naval knowledge and was reacting on that basis so I'm happy for anyone to plug gaps in my knowledge in that regard!

    • @andmanab
      @andmanab หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes. The reason is explained in the 6-hour TV version of the film or in the book.
      The captain suspects that the boat is very badly damaged by the air attack and tries to maneuver it southwards into shallower waters.

    • @JTRetroReactions
      @JTRetroReactions  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Again, cheers mate for the context as it helps a lot so much appreciated! Have a good evening.

  • @petrkunetka2345
    @petrkunetka2345 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great video, thank you. Just to add to evaluation of the captain... I just recently read Kretschmer biography, and from what I learned, there were many reasons why the convoy attacks were made on surface (night attacks) in 1940 and 1941 - speed, avoiding sonar, lack of destroyer coverage of convoy etc. This makes much less sense in 1942 and was suicide in late 42 and on. But again, the book was based on several captains and missions.
    Another small point to add - Donitz was really promoting aggressive, risk taking spirit and aggresive approach to missions. There was much more recklesness in performing mission than seems acceptable for us. Actually, one of the reasons why German lost Battlke of Atlantic was being too aggressive with inadequate resources.
    And definitely, the debuchery shown in the opening scene was completely impossible. These guys were in uniform, mind you.

    • @petrkunetka2345
      @petrkunetka2345 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Diving was less and less protection against sonar detection as war progressed (still offered some protection against aircraft). Going below thermal layer might help somewhat (and I have no idea what is its depth in Gibraltar). But there simply no reliable hiding for submarine if ASDIC was around.
      And submarines needed to spend most time on surface. For Type VII Electric engine range was approx. 50 miles.
      I tend to think in Gibraltar scene captain goes full ahead towards Africa coast in effort to save crew. Thus the command "prepare to abandon ship".
      But I am no naval expert, just keen reader :)

    • @JTRetroReactions
      @JTRetroReactions  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks mate - I appreciate you saying that! Thanks also for sharing all of that great information as it helped answer the questions I had about those tactics - so again I appreciate it!

    • @JTRetroReactions
      @JTRetroReactions  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks again mate. Your naval knowledge is still more then mine. Even though I come from an Island nation, I have little to know naval knowledge which I have no problem admitting. I was more into army stuff as a kid and that is where I always end up when I read on such things. Narrow minded of me I suppose but as an ex-military guy, that is where my heart goes.

    • @petrkunetka2345
      @petrkunetka2345 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@JTRetroReactions I am just opposite - landlocked country, love sea and reading of naval combat :)
      Thank you a lot!

    • @JTRetroReactions
      @JTRetroReactions  หลายเดือนก่อน

      No worries mate and apologies for the late reply.

  • @techmed-rainer
    @techmed-rainer 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    11:54 You're right. The sub is much faster on the surface. In addition, at that time, they were much more vulnerable when diving. They couldn't dive for a long time because of a restricted amount of battery power (these boats couldn't run with their diesel engines. They had to use electric motors.) Oxygen was a limited resource as well. Later on, you asked why they needed a cable for the batteries. As far as I understood it, they had to bridge the damaged cells.
    Great work, thank you!

  • @tucorameriz3538
    @tucorameriz3538 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Many of your questions were answered in the book and its a masterpiece as well. The dash the captain takes toward Africa while being attacked at Gibraltar was to get into shallower water, much faster on the surface then underwater and by a razors edge he was able to just get enough sand under his keel to keep them alive. Also a throw seemingly throw away scene on the boat was the fly walking across the picture of the C and C, this fly was very important to the authors phycological state, he wrote about how that fly had a choice not to be on the boat but it stayed anyway. The authors description of the depth charging and sinking haunt me many years later. In depth charge attacks, a destroyer can not run sonar because of the engine noise, so they would have to run slow to find a contact, then speed up while circling around and then speed up to drop depth charges, which could only be dropped at high speed to avoid to avoid breaking the destroyers keel. 2 destroyers can work together with one slow to acquire targets while the other delivers the punch. With one destroyer gave the captain time to change course and depth once they know they had been found which the hunters also knew so they were all guessing what evasive maneuvers to take or were being taken. As you can imagine 2 or more destroyers took away that bit of strategy from the u boat.

    • @JTRetroReactions
      @JTRetroReactions  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for watching and for sharing all of that information which was interesting to read. I've got a copy of the book now, I just need to get time to read it

  • @sebastiansznauder4640
    @sebastiansznauder4640 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    7:30, if you sail from Atlantic Ocean to Spain you don't get through Gibraltar, but you have to from the ocean to La Spezia, Italy 🙂

    • @JTRetroReactions
      @JTRetroReactions  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for the correct Sebastian and as I said in my commentary, I have little to no Naval knowledge and that includes navigation. I spent most of my life in the Army and serving in various UN missions, mainly in middle east and Africa so that's where my knowledge is at.

    • @ohauss
      @ohauss 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@JTRetroReactions Spain doesn't just have a Mediterranean coast, but also an Atlantic one. Vigo is on the latter.

  • @TheApilas
    @TheApilas 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    During the Second World War, German U-boats used the currents to pass into the Mediterranean Sea without detection, by maintaining silence with engines off. From September 1941 to May 1944 Germany managed to send 62 U-boats into the Mediterranean. All these boats had to navigate the British-controlled Strait of Gibraltar where nine U-boats were sunk while attempting passage and 10 more had to break off their run due to damage. No U-boats ever made it back into the Atlantic and all were either sunk in battle or scuttled by their own crews.

    • @JTRetroReactions
      @JTRetroReactions  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Again interesting and something I didn't know so thanks. No wonder the casualty rates were insane for the crew members

  • @animula6908
    @animula6908 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think this captain is committed to his mission like Tom hanks in saving private Ryan.

    • @JTRetroReactions
      @JTRetroReactions  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I agree but I think it's more about just is human flaws and probably some PTSD in there as well. No officer is perfect. After discussing it with another commenter I realised, that perhaps the true hero of this movie is the engineer. He stopped the Captain from killing Johann, from going on another suicidal mission after the first attack and he saved the boat in the end. He is almost so subtle as the hero that you miss him as indeed I did until it came to my mind with the other commenters discussion, when he was advocating the Captain as a hero and I was saying he was a good leader no doubt but I think he was flawed as all men and women are.
      But the engineer never puts a foot wrong and the more I think of it, that was either the director or author or both, pointing out subtly the unsung heros - the ordinary men who get the job done whilst never getting any real recognition. Also remember, the engineer we are told really needs to get home as his wife is dying but still does everything he has too without complaint.

  • @mika-antero
    @mika-antero หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When I was young I wanted to be a submariner until I found out that there are no submarines in Finland. It was disappointing.

    • @JTRetroReactions
      @JTRetroReactions  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Same here in Ireland, even though the Submarine was invented by an Irish man from Tipperary but go figure - I mean about no submarines in Ireland rather then also wanting to be a submariner.

  • @TheApilas
    @TheApilas 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Submarines can only exchange the batteries at port/drydock. At sea they can only disconnect the faulty batteries and rewire the working ones.

    • @JTRetroReactions
      @JTRetroReactions  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks mate. That I did not know so thanks for sharing

  • @doomhippie6673
    @doomhippie6673 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The captain wanted the engineer to leave the boat because the engineer's wife was gravely ill. Plus he was in danger of developing PTDS. And the journalist wasn't a member of the crew. With the high risk of being sunk at Gibraltar the captain didn't want these two to be wasted on this trip.

  • @windsaw151
    @windsaw151 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    On the question why he tried to go south at Gibraltar on the surface:
    Apart from the obvious (but questionable) answer because they are much faster on the surface, I think there is a problem when they adapted the book to the movie.
    IIRC, in the book the ship already leaked in the front after the initial attack. They initially dove immediately but when the Captain found about the leak he had to resurface to keep the boat floating. He knew that he would eventually have to dive again because of the attacks so he tried to get as close as possible to the african shore in case they would go down. Which they did. At that point the movie made its biggest mistake: They never explained why the boat went down in the movie. The stuck rudder or inoperable pumps shouldn't be a factor once they blow their tanks. He screams the boat has to become lighter but there is no indication why it became heavy in the first place.
    In general I think it is a good thing that the captain was portrayed as competent but not infallable. He made some serious mistakes, most of all missing the first destroyer in the periscope. But the scene where he snapped at his navigator because he asked when they would go back was not one of them. "When do we turn back home" is a question you simply don't ask your captain EVER! The captain probably already knew they would turn back, but he had to make it clear to his navigator that he shouldn't ask questions that are not his to ask.

    • @JTRetroReactions
      @JTRetroReactions  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank Wind for watching the video and for your comments which were insightful. I agree with most of what you said and the only thing I would slightly disagree with is the Engineer asking questions - he's a senior NCO so that's his job is to put forward the case for the men to the officer. I agree with you that Captain is competent but not infalliable - his treatment of Johann is one example - he seemed very rash in some of his decisions and that's why I now lean towards the Engineer being the real hero of the show - he' always calm and always right in his thinking and decisions. In fact, he saves, Johnann, he saves the boat and he stops the Captain from pursuing an attack when the boat was already damaged.
      It's one of the reasons I love this movie - so many nuances in there - every time you watch it you can see something new.

    • @windsaw151
      @windsaw151 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @oReactionsI was mostly commenting his reaction to the Navigator, which was putting him into place for asking something that he shouldn't. That he snapped at the Engineer who brought up the topic of fuel was a bit uncalled for but understandable at the moment considering how pissed he was. Also: it was just an "I know, I know", nothing more serious.
      On a different note: The Captain in the books was also very competent, but a much more larger-than-life figure, much less accessible and certainly less sympathetic than in the movie. And he also made mistakes.

    • @JTRetroReactions
      @JTRetroReactions  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I have a copy of the book ordered and I am looking forward to reading it. I like that the Captain has flaws as do many of the men - it's more human and realistic. So I'm looking forward to reading it

  • @Tanaquil_de_Lammerfors
    @Tanaquil_de_Lammerfors 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    "Das Boot" was nominated 6 times for the Academy Awards in 1983, but had to compete with "Gandhi" and "E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial", who won most of the Awards (and, additionally, "An Officer and a Gentleman", "Tootsie", "Blade Runner" and some other excellent movies, so it was a very strong competition).

    • @llothar68
      @llothar68 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Should have won best foreign movie but wasn't even nominated for that category

    • @JTRetroReactions
      @JTRetroReactions  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching and you're right some serious competition there

    • @JTRetroReactions
      @JTRetroReactions  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fair point. I wonder could it be up for both or were they only allowed compete in one category

  • @Capt.-Nemo
    @Capt.-Nemo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Why the film didn't get an Oscar was political, it's a German anti-war Movie

    • @JTRetroReactions
      @JTRetroReactions  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I presume you mean in the context of the Cold War at the time where the West Germans needed to be kept on a war footing given, that at that time, they were likely to be the front line?

  • @oliverschloter
    @oliverschloter 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Die Schauspieler durften während des Dreh nicht in die Sonne gehen.

    • @JTRetroReactions
      @JTRetroReactions  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Very correct. I believe I also said that in the commentary. The director wanted them to be pale so kept them indoors. Thanks for watching

  • @dennisbahmer3238
    @dennisbahmer3238 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    The new mini serie's is in my opinon very bad. Wolfgang Petersen wanted his movie as authentig as possible. The new mini Serie's is different. I think the people how wrote the Script wanted just a entertaining TV Show.

    • @JTRetroReactions
      @JTRetroReactions  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Ah interesting - so it went for entertainment rather then the realism that made the original movie - I'll guess I will give it a miss then. Please also let me know if you have any suggestions for movie or TV reactions - I would appreciate it!

    • @dennisbahmer3238
      @dennisbahmer3238 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      For WW2 Movies i would recommend
      Operation Valkyrie a movie abaut the failed bomb attack on Hitler
      Schindlers List abaut the Holochaust and Oscar Schindler
      A Bridge too far it's abaut the operation market garden
      Downfall its abaut the last days of the 3. Reich
      Stalingrad it's another Movie from Woflgang Peterson
      hacksaw ridge its a real story abaut an american medic

    • @JTRetroReactions
      @JTRetroReactions  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thanks Dennis. I did a reaction to Downfall but had a fraudulent copyright claim that YT refused to refute - it was an American Distributor and distributors have no claim of copyright under EU law - anyways. It's still up on my Rumble channel. I have Stalingrad 1993 ready to do but unfortunately I only have a copy of the dubbed version. I ordered the German version but got sent the dubbed version. If you haven't seen my Talvisota reaction - the full length reaction is up here and it's about the Winter War between Finland and the USSR - it has a very similar feel to Stalingrad 1993 so if you liked that, then I would recommend Talvisota to you. Thanks for the other recommendations, I will add them to the list. I also have Generation War and Deutschland 89 on my to do list from the German perspective.

    • @dasspielmobil6161
      @dasspielmobil6161 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@dennisbahmer3238 Stalingrad isn't by Wolfgang Petersen. Director was Joseph Vilsmaier.

    • @3.k
      @3.k 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JTRetroReactions Another really really immersive war movie is Black Hawk Down. But I guess that's no new information to you. :D

  • @TheApilas
    @TheApilas 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It is generally considered that red breaks down rhodopsin more slowly and, if preserving night vision is the main objective, red is better. We had possibility to switch from white to red and blue light in our PASI APC´s in the Finnish defence forces when in low light or night condition.

    • @JTRetroReactions
      @JTRetroReactions  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks again mate. You're a mine of information on this movie. I know little to nothing about naval warfare as I suffer from chronic sea sickness and hence never got into boats, ships etc. They just remind me of being ill

    • @TheApilas
      @TheApilas 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@JTRetroReactions ouch that's rough to fare that ill. Luckily I don't get seasick but have witnessed others get really affected. I served in the Coastal Jeagers in Finland and it is similar to Royal Marines in training and role. So we spend plenty of time by the coast and islands since that's where we operate to prevent enemy landings and retake lost areas.

    • @JTRetroReactions
      @JTRetroReactions  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I did learn since that is how sensitive your inner ear is in terms of balance and fluid used to regulate balance. If your body uses more fluid it sloshes around a lot more making the brain think it's constantly losing balance and hence the dizziness and nausea. So all genetics. You obviously have a passion for it and the genetics too do it so fair play. I enjoy the sea but just can't deal with it

    • @windsaw151
      @windsaw151 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I watch the sky at night searching for dim stars end nebula. To orient myself on maps I use a red light so my eyes don't get accustomed to the brightness. Astronomy apps on the smartphone usually also have a dark mode with black background and the text turning red.
      So yes, red light is essential for seeing in the dark. But of course it is also correct that it is less visible for other ships to detect you if you use red instead of white. So two advantages.

    • @JTRetroReactions
      @JTRetroReactions  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cool stuff mate - thanks for letting me know.

  • @dasspielmobil6161
    @dasspielmobil6161 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Quickly wanna answer your two most pressing questions:
    If I had been in WWII, I would hope to serve under this captain anytime. He saved his crew time and time again, was always composed, always fair and speeding through Gibraltar was literally a lifesaver. Its a blink and you miss it moment, but he orders the boat to change direction towards the coast and have them go as fast as they can. He wanted his crew to evacuate, hence the order "Klar bei Tauchretter!", which roughly is "put on your life vests". Had he not done this, the boat would have sunken even deeper and most likely would have been crushed by the water pressure. But this decission lead them towards the coast where the ground was starting to come up again.
    There are a lot of subtle blink and you miss it moments in Prochnows acting. For example, when he slides down the ladder, he hurts his back and is hurting the whole time ever since, but whenever there is crew around, he never shows them that he is hurting, so they can always believe that everything is and will be allright. Only when noone, or just his closest officers are around, he allows himself to try and ease some of the pain. Prochnow's acting is nothing short of brilliant.
    If you ever have a chance, watch the full 5-part tv series. The runtime is roughly 4 1/2 to 5 hours, but it is so worth it.
    And for your second question: the new TV series is not as good as the original, but it is also based on the books by Buchheim, oftentimes taking cues from the stories he has the characters talk about, rather than on the experiences depicted on the book, and thus adds several more layers to the overall story. It not only tells the story of the submarine crew (which is a different crew on a different boat, by the way), but also of the French Resistance and a lot more. They have three seasons for a reason. Definetely a recommendation, just do not expect a masterpiece such as the original. Then again, there will never be a movie or show as masterfully executed as Das Boot.

    • @JTRetroReactions
      @JTRetroReactions  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks Dasspiel for answering those questions. I don't disagree that the Captain is generally a good leader but he definitely has flaws. The major one being rashness's and impulsiveness. For example, he wanted to go on the attack after they were still recovering from the first destroyer attack and even his crew was challenging him on that - saying they barely had enough fuel to make it back to La Rochelle.
      Also, his rush to get his gun to shoot Johann, while instead his senior NCOs just calmed Johann down which was the correct thing to do.
      Now, I didn't realise he had hurt his back as you pointed out so perhaps that had something to do with it, but I contrast his behaviour with Johann with that of the Officers towards Erkill in Talvisota - who had a similar shell shock reaction and their attitude was just let him rest with his friends and he will be fine, which he was.
      Or also contrasting him to the officer Koskela in the Unknown Soldier - Koskela comes out on top for me as he even gave up his own life to save his men.
      Again, I'm not saying at all that the Captain is a bad leader but has character flaws like we all do.
      Thanks again for the input and information - I appreciate it!

    • @dasspielmobil6161
      @dasspielmobil6161 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@JTRetroReactionsIf you´re up for it, we can have a lengthy discussion about this, and any other topic concerning the movie, its characters, the books or the production :) I just don´t want to overwhelm you with my oppinions and analyses.
      I will take this opportunity to rewatch the movie, because I can´t remember exactly which situation you´re referring to with the rashness. Their whole mission was to sink tonnage, so of course he ordered to attack. I am not sure if that was the same occasion where the low fuel was mentioned though. I think you are confusing two different situations. The captain needs to decide when the recovery time is over and when the crew and boat is ready to jump back into action. He mentioned at one point that there are only a dozen of submarines in the atlantic, so he wanted to fulfill their mission to the best of their abilities. Each attack will unavoidably result in retaliation by waterbombs. That´s no reason not to attack a convoy.
      As for Johann: He was beyond the point of being rationally calmed down. When the captain rushed back to his quarters to get the pistol, I always took that as a sign to the rest of the crew to take care of Johann. They didn´t calm him down, they probably took him somewhere and beat him unconcious, so that Johann would be unable to climb up the ladder and even though he would most probably have not managed to open the hatch itself, he could have caused damage to the hatch, resulting in a leak that would have killed them all. Captain knew he could never have ordered his crew to "take care of Johann", so he left and let his crew do the dirty work, so that he didn´t have to. Fortunately, the crew realized what was going on and reacted exactly as predicted, so the situation could be solved without any harm, but cap was prepared nontheless. Maybe the full length version is better in explaining this detail. I haven´t watched the Director´s Cut in ages, to be perfectly honest.
      Unfortunately I haven´t watched the other movies you mentioned, so I am unable to compare.

    • @JTRetroReactions
      @JTRetroReactions  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Happy to discuss it mate - that's why I started doing these reactions. I ain't ever going to earn a load of money from these as I'm not female, blonde or pretty enough to attract the masses :) The situation I was referring to was at the end of part 1, beginning of part 2 of my videos. He wanted, after taking damage to join another attack on a convoy but his senior officers were against it - the engineer - the Captain shouts at him - I know or words to that effect - it turns out they barely have enough fuel to make it back to La Rochelle - this is before they get the order to go to Spain to refuel and after Johann's breakdown.
      As I mentioned in commentary, a truly great officer does a cost/benefit analysis - which has the greater benefit, conserving men and equipment or the mission. After the damage they took and being low on fuel, I don't see how the Captain could rationally want to attack again and the engineer at least agreed with me on that - The Captain too after he was challenged on it.
      I take your point on Johann but would respectfully disagree. The engineer again was the one who took charge here and calmed the situation down. You are right that the course of action is to knock someone like that out rather then beat them. The more I think about it actually, per the movie, the engineer is actually the real leader hero in this - he always advised the Captain correctly, he managed Johann and he was the one who saved the Boat when they were stranded on the coral reef - hmm interesting - I hadn't thought of that before

  • @derdork3233
    @derdork3233 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    German here. The subtitles in this cut/edition you watched are kinda wrong sometimes. Or not translated well.
    The boat is kaputt. That made me chuckle. Sorry to laugh in that scene.

    • @JTRetroReactions
      @JTRetroReactions  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I agree mate - I speak a decent level of German and lived in Germany for a bit so even I could tell the subtitles were off and to be honest they are in most translated movies - everything from Downfall to Deutschland '83 etc. The subtitles always take the easiest approach rather than the most accurate approach.

  • @abruemmer77
    @abruemmer77 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    They weren't allowed to take POW because of the Laconia order.
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laconia_Order

    • @JTRetroReactions
      @JTRetroReactions  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for sharing that - I only found out about that recently from another commenter so it was interesting to read up on.

  • @TheApilas
    @TheApilas 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Spain cooperated a lot with Nazi Germany before and during the war, Nazi Germany helped Franco during the Spanish civil war

    • @JTRetroReactions
      @JTRetroReactions  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Indeed they did. However I believe the ship was under quarantine but at the same time they had torpedoes and supplies so I presume that quarantine was not being enforced

    • @TheApilas
      @TheApilas 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@JTRetroReactions Spain let some stuff happen behind their backs. Spain didn't want to anger any side of the war and didn't agree to obey requests from Germany to attack Gibraltar. To make the Germans feeling a bit more happy they allowed Spanish volunteers to form the "Blue division" to travel and fight in the Eastern front on the German side

    • @JTRetroReactions
      @JTRetroReactions  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks mate. The Eastern front really was the graveyard for any volunteers for the German side.

  • @TheApilas
    @TheApilas 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I can also recommend TV series cut they made of the movie that contains even more scenes cut from the movie cuts. (There is also a new few year old TV series that the name and some characters as the only similarity, not close as good as this 1980´s original)

    • @JTRetroReactions
      @JTRetroReactions  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for the recommendation mate. I'll add it to the list

  • @edinburgh1578
    @edinburgh1578 หลายเดือนก่อน

    7:39 No, to get to La Spezia they have to get through the straight of Gib. first. Vigo is on the Atlantic coast.

    • @JTRetroReactions
      @JTRetroReactions  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching the video and for the comment. Fair enough mate - I didn't know that so I'll take your word on it. Thanks for the correction. Cheers.

    • @edinburgh1578
      @edinburgh1578 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@JTRetroReactions You're welcome. An easy enough mistake to make and thanks for responding. It wasn't made very clear in the film, but they stopped at Vigo on the Spanish Atlantic coast just north of Portugal to replenish, whence they sailed southwards to Gib. It was made clearer in the book.

    • @JTRetroReactions
      @JTRetroReactions  26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Cheers mate

  • @abruemmer77
    @abruemmer77 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thanks so much for this brilliant reaction, mate.
    (If you want to pronounce "Das Boot" more accurately try saying "das boht" or the speech function of 'google translate'.)

    • @JTRetroReactions
      @JTRetroReactions  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching mate. I actually speak German not quite fluently but almost. You are not accounting for my Irish accent that is all. The same as Germans speaking English never sound the same as native English speakers and pronounce words as they would in German rather then English.

  • @animula6908
    @animula6908 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Academy has always been bad at picking the real winners. I’ve heard the miniseries is better at depicting some aspects of submarine life and worth a watch. God bless you too, sir.

    • @JTRetroReactions
      @JTRetroReactions  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed, the academy has picked some crap over the years. Although and I don't know if it was Kramer vs Kramer that won over this - that's a decent film too. It could have been chariots of fire as well - they were all around the same time as this. I haven't seen the mini series and it seems to split opinion in the comments with some loving it and some hating it - I'll stick on the reaction list though - a) because I'm interested after hearing the split opinions and b) because at least it will cause some entertainment in the comments :)

  • @SuperEikman
    @SuperEikman 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    One Oskar went to Indiana Jones. The Americans borrow Das Boot for it and gave it back broken. Thats why it sunk while shooting.

    • @JTRetroReactions
      @JTRetroReactions  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ha ha - good one mate! Thanks for watching the video - I appreciate it!

    • @SuperEikman
      @SuperEikman 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you. But its not a Joke, it realy happened. I know it from the making of and an interview with Jan Fedder. @@JTRetroReactions

    • @JTRetroReactions
      @JTRetroReactions  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Really? Sorry I misunderstood. It just sounds so unbelievable. Thanks for clarifying

    • @SuperEikman
      @SuperEikman 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Your welcome. :-)

    • @SuperEikman
      @SuperEikman 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      When you see "Indiana Jones and the last cruisate", you will see the exact model

  • @robertsurcouf6472
    @robertsurcouf6472 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Concerning the burning crew members of the tanker, there should everybody know, that the regular rules of war would have demanded the u-boat to rescue the sailors, but the german high command dismissed this rule and gave out the command that no enemy crewmen should be rescued. This was pure inhumanity . . . I am right now thinking of the medeterainian sea today :(

    • @turboseize
      @turboseize หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This was the reaction to an american war crime - the Laconia incident.

    • @JTRetroReactions
      @JTRetroReactions  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for your comment and for watching the video. Believe it or not, no regular armed combatant wants to intentionally kill and will go out of their way to avoid it. Usually the decision to kill comes down to the greater good or self preservation. You could see the pain this decision caused the Captain and crew members and I'm glad the director included that scene as it made it real!

  • @HenrySimple
    @HenrySimple 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The subtitles are terrible...

    • @JTRetroReactions
      @JTRetroReactions  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You have to blame the movie for that

    • @vast634
      @vast634 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The translation is also often not fitting. Some details get lost.

    • @JTRetroReactions
      @JTRetroReactions  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed - I do speak a decent level of German and like most German movies I have watched, the subtitles are usually created using the easiest route to give the context rather than the literally route. Downfall is one of the worst examples of that, that I have seen.

  • @andygreve9327
    @andygreve9327 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You will believe in God, trust me.

    • @JTRetroReactions
      @JTRetroReactions  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks Andy for watching the video and for the comment. I do get it and had my own experiences in UNIFIL duty, shelling, mortar fire, small arms fire etc, where we took some losses and if you look at my comments on the Unknown Soldier and Talvisota reactions, I comment, how it's difficult to come out of situations like that and not have some faith. Indeed, one of my commenters even pointed out that generally faith amongst the armed forces tends to be 10 to 15% higher in general then faith amongst the general populace which makes sense to me and I presume you, from your comment.

    • @andygreve9327
      @andygreve9327 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@JTRetroReactions you are welcome, and yes you are totally right.

    • @JTRetroReactions
      @JTRetroReactions  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks mate. Have a good one.

  • @larsjordan8994
    @larsjordan8994 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you have no idea about what you are watching, why youvdo reaction vids? Sorry...

    • @JTRetroReactions
      @JTRetroReactions  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ah do you're the type of fool that wants people to react too crap that they've already researched and then fake the reaction? Really? It's called a body bloody reaction video not a knowledge test or documentary video. But you'd have to be intelligent to work that out!!!!