That's fair, but you're always in competition with yourself and for me, that's much worse than I expected it to be. Perspective is definitely big though, I do like that!
As a new runner, I really admire people who are able to run marathons. And you finished yours despite feeling sick so be proud of yourself. A lot of people would have quit.
finishing a marathon is an achievement in itself, especially if you were feeling a bit ill. Even then, 3:38 is a great time - although it wasn’t your goal, it was also your first marathon and you were sick! it’s okay to have an excuse once a while and this one was very valid!
Yeah, definitely a lot of learning lessons and it being my first, I didn't have much of an idea of what to expect. I don't like excuses though haha but I appreciate you!
One of the things I have learned is that no matter how great training goes, you never know how race day will go. 3:38 is a great time considering how you were feeling and that you just started using gels. Think of this marathon as setting your baseline. I am sure you will see the improvement on the next one you do. Good Luck.
Yeah, I think it's a fairly easy baseline for sure as I assumed my baseline was going to be 3:30. It is true that you never know what's going to happen come race day. Thank you, you as well!
I ran my first a few days ago and finished 8 min past my 3:40 goal. When experienced people warn you the marathon is no joke, believe them. Lesson, when people who have experience you don't, believe them and don't mistake yourself for superman, who is a fictional character.
Lol I was trying to get 4:50 for my first and ended up getting 6:31. Talk about a bad first marathon experience? Talk about mine. You did very well man!
Dang, what ended up happening? Did something happen during the marathon you didn't expect? I appreciate it though, gotta stay tough on myself to continue pushing.
@@TylerSinden Some things you just can't explain or rationalize man. All I know is at some point my body failed me and my pace just kept dropping with every 10K mark lol. I know the frustration. But I'm over it now. I'm also dropping a video about it tomorrow on my channel
You did awesome!! You will learn as you go. Really 20miles will be the longest run you should have during training..most plans show this... Recovery after long runs are important.. epsom salt baths! .
you killed it man! i wouldn’t run anything longer than 20 in practice… i think it will destroy your body too much and interfere with your training. when you are in shape and cruising through 7:20 miles … that marathon will be over before you know it. tbh they are always tough, there is no “getting used to”
Stop all this bullshit on social media and go out and teain...there is NOTHING for running like running...thank god I was ontop of my game before the days of the internet....
Ran My First UltraMarathon last weekend did a 50k Trail Ultra. I was hoping to finish under 6 1/2 hours and I missed it by 3 mins tough, but also lets me know that it's definitely possible for me maybe better fueling more water would've helped me get there. Also, my first time running over 15 miles, let alone getting to that 15 mile check point and having 16 more miles to go! That last 10 miles felt like an eternity but I just kept pushing; the last 5k I needed to walk most of it! You'll be good and bounce back very impressive goals for your first marathon!
Aw man, 3 minutes off sucks with how close you were. Congrats on your first ultra! These failures only act as learning lessons for us to better prepare next time and come back stronger! Sounds like a tough finish though and I definitely will bounce back, thank you!
Although you did not hit your goals you still completed it. All your runs are not always going to be perfect. Good to see you went through with it. Keep training it will get better.
@@BroPhotography Wouldn't necessarily say I hit a "wall". I think it was just an atypical day of running for me, so it may have skewed my perception of the run. Why is 3 hours the limit? How did someone discover that?
I’ve never run a marathon but something similar happened to me last year when I ran a half marathon. I wasn’t well rested. After about 7 or 9 miles, my feet started feeling heavy. Like my shoes were made of bricks, my hips were killing me, my lungs were on fire and I just had an overall bad time. Somehow I managed to finish in 2 hours.
I think the first one is always going to be rough because you just don’t know what to expect. But you did it and that’s amazing! Good luck with the next one
Last summer I tore my Achilles at 37, this May I decided to go couch to marathon in 5 months and did the kc marathon last Saturday. It was all good until mile 19. The last 7 miles were pure hell but I finished it. Will definitely keep training for about a year before doing another. It wasn’t enough time to run a good race
Love that you just threw yourself in it and got the job done! I almost did that recently with my second marathon, but decided not to due to my injury from this marathon still lingering. I would have just been doing it to do it and not running a good pace like you're aiming for with your next. Good luck with the training and your next marathon!
I appreciate that! However, my goal wasn't really to finish, it was specific times. I believe I already knew that I could finish. Next time we'll get it 😤
Well done. Great effort for first marathon. The only advice I would give is to train as you are going to run. Don't try something new for the race. Practice using gels etc during training so no surprises during the race.
Yeah. Nice work! Don't let it get you down. Your first marathon is prep for the rest you will do. You'll make so many stupid mistakes no matter how prepared you think you are. 3:30 is really ambitious and you got close. You're definitely on track. A practice marathon is definitely good. Don't let people scare you into not doing it. I would keep it at least 3 weeks out though maybe 4. Doing it too early in the training block isn't as useful. I'm shooting for 3:00 next year, so definitely not elite, but I've done maybe 25 marathons now.
I appreciate all that man! I wouldn't do it close to an actual race day, might do it sometime during this Ironman training, but at the same time, wouldn't want to risk an injury. That's awesome man! Best of luck. I want to get there eventually and qualify for the Boston Marathon.
2:28 for first with a 1:12 closing half. Handicap race ran from backmark to take win. No social media, no you tube documentary just run based triathlon training around a labouring job. Ran 45km 4 weeks prior as an accident as just did 3hr run. Back up again two weeks later ran a 2:42 and then two weeks after that a 2:32.
Bro, that’s no failure! You should be super proud of yourself. First off , that’s not a a bad time and you overcame several challenges to ultimately get to the finish line. Count this as a win!
I appreciate that! That's true, but when I look at my training leading up, my baseline goal should have been easily achievable, but we'll get there next time!
Awesome! Best of luck, Hector. Just put in the work and prepare the best you can and then it's just another run (but slightly longer). One foot in front of the other.
thank you! Yeah, talking with people in the bike community, they barely train for stuff and are able to go out and perform because their endurance has been building for so long.
We're all on our own paths. Comparing myself to myself, I knew I should have done better. Good luck with your marathon! Don't go out too hard and pace yourself to get that sub-5 - you got this! 😤
I just saw this. Sorry for the logistic issues that surely affected your race since sleep night before is always bad - and you had two of them (tho waking up on wrong day was a first 😂).
haha thanks, it's my own fault.. I swear at one point it said the race was on Saturday 😅 but true, two rough sleeps in a row, maybe I should try some training days when I'm sleep deprived lol
Good job, as long as you did and finished it. There’s a lot to learn from for the first marathon if you plan on running again! Good luck. Also what training program did you follow?
100%. Learned a lot from this and I found a 16 week program to run sub 3:30 online and started it about 6 weeks in as I signed up for this about 2.5 months out. Thank you though!
Interesting how relatively low your HR was during the whole race yet you felt like it was hard. Maybe your watch isn't tracking it properly? Watches aren't as accurate as chest or arm strap, but this seems way off. It seemed you were in easy zone the whole way?
I just tripped over your video and was about to blast you for not knowing the proper date for your marathon but after a very respectable finish time ill change my angle 》 why have you not informed your audience of any of your training schedule? Have I missed something? Just curious how you achieved your time that is all.
lmao blast me, I'm dumb for that 😂 Felt like an idiot when I was down there ready to run. I just started getting back into TH-cam and posting. I'm currently training for an Ironman and trying to document the journey and thought the marathon would be a good addition. I can definitely do a video on that once I get back to full health! I believe one reason why I ran a half-decent time is because of my body and have always been in sports. Running has never really been that hard for me, I just never enjoyed it before.
Man I did 4:57. I would have loved to have your time. I get it though. I missed my target by 27 minutes. For a first time I just wanted to survive and I did.
Yeah, we're all at different levels. I was also trying to just survive as well haha I wanted to make sure my heart wasn't too elevated but my watch wasn't tracking which annoyed me. That's really awesome to hear though! Congrats on finishing your first and hopefully more to come! 🚀
Appreciate it! I guess it's all perspective. I thought I would be able to run quite a bit faster, but still only my first and something to improve upon for the future!
Do NOT run a full marathon in training - that is long-held standard advice. You will be more prone to injury, you will need a long recovery time which will impact your training schedule for the next two weeks, and you will get burnt out. NO respect for you, training wrong and not even smart enough to get the correct day. Thumbs down. I have done 29 marathons and was always smart enough to show up on the correct day.
Training to run marathon on a low carb diet is like trying to drive across the country with no gas, proper diet will massively increase the benefits you get from training
Ehhh, I had goals I wanted to hit (and judging from my training) I should have been able to hit my baseline easily. That's awesome! Congrats on your first marathon as well!
Why do you think that you have failed? You finished it and you even had a great time. And beeing sick is not an excuse, its something that we cant controle but affects us.
My goal wasn't to finish, I knew that I was able to finish. I wanted to hit my goal times and I get that, I'm just someone that's not a fan of excuses, and I'm hard on myself.
@@TylerSinden I wish you good luck for your next one. But still it is good to be thankful for the working body that we have. Despite of beeing 5 mins faster or not.
Why on earth would you eat low carb while marathon training ? Carb is the main energy source your body taps in to. Get yourself more informed and it will be so much better
@TylerSinden that's rubbish, running is a glycolitical sport, you need carbs. If you done well on low carb you will do much better on carbs. You are no wizard or alien, it's science. That's why I said, get informed, look in to it. You will benefit tremendously
3:38 for your first marathon? Dude, that's awesome! I did 4:26 for my first marathon. You the man, great job brother!
Congrats on your marathon as well! And thank you 🤝 I had good training and was basically running marathons at sub 3:30, so that's why I'm a bit upset.
Your "crappy" marathon was two hours faster than my "good" marathon. Perspective!!!
That's fair, but you're always in competition with yourself and for me, that's much worse than I expected it to be. Perspective is definitely big though, I do like that!
A completed marathon is a good marathon in my book.
As a new runner, I really admire people who are able to run marathons. And you finished yours despite feeling sick so be proud of yourself. A lot of people would have quit.
We're all at different points in our journey. Just a year ago, I wasn't able to do a full marathon and completed a half. You will get there!
finishing a marathon is an achievement in itself, especially if you were feeling a bit ill. Even then, 3:38 is a great time - although it wasn’t your goal, it was also your first marathon and you were sick! it’s okay to have an excuse once a while and this one was very valid!
Yeah, definitely a lot of learning lessons and it being my first, I didn't have much of an idea of what to expect. I don't like excuses though haha but I appreciate you!
One of the things I have learned is that no matter how great training goes, you never know how race day will go. 3:38 is a great time considering how you were feeling and that you just started using gels. Think of this marathon as setting your baseline. I am sure you will see the improvement on the next one you do. Good Luck.
Yeah, I think it's a fairly easy baseline for sure as I assumed my baseline was going to be 3:30. It is true that you never know what's going to happen come race day. Thank you, you as well!
I gotta admit I would have been a little mad if you showed up and ran a sub 3 after not being sure which day the race was on
I ran my first a few days ago and finished 8 min past my 3:40 goal. When experienced people warn you the marathon is no joke, believe them. Lesson, when people who have experience you don't, believe them and don't mistake yourself for superman, who is a fictional character.
Lol I was trying to get 4:50 for my first and ended up getting 6:31. Talk about a bad first marathon experience? Talk about mine. You did very well man!
Dang, what ended up happening? Did something happen during the marathon you didn't expect? I appreciate it though, gotta stay tough on myself to continue pushing.
@@TylerSinden Some things you just can't explain or rationalize man. All I know is at some point my body failed me and my pace just kept dropping with every 10K mark lol. I know the frustration. But I'm over it now. I'm also dropping a video about it tomorrow on my channel
@@iam_aphe Yup, same thing happened to me on this race. We learn from it and improve for next time! Love it man
At least you did one. Great achievement in itself.
You did awesome!! You will learn as you go. Really 20miles will be the longest run you should have during training..most plans show this... Recovery after long runs are important.. epsom salt baths! .
I loved my ice baths after long runs. I appreciate it! 🙏
The longest I’ve done in a training session was 16 miles and oof tough. Took me a day to recover!
you killed it man! i wouldn’t run anything longer than 20 in practice… i think it will destroy your body too much and interfere with your training. when you are in shape and cruising through 7:20 miles … that marathon will be over before you know it. tbh they are always tough, there is no “getting used to”
That's fair and yeah, my goal is to eventually get sub 3:00, which shouldn't be as bad cause I did that a few times during training. Thanks!
You couldn’t run sub 3 for the marathon if you ran 3.39. That is light years away. Not being bad, you are kidding yourself to even think that.
3:38 feeling sick is an impressive time
Thanks. I think I just had higher expectations from myself judging from my training.
Stop all this bullshit on social media and go out and teain...there is NOTHING for running like running...thank god I was ontop of my game before the days of the internet....
😂😂😂 click bait
Proud of you bro, keep pushing.
Thanks, Aaron, I will 🫡
Ran My First UltraMarathon last weekend did a 50k Trail Ultra. I was hoping to finish under 6 1/2 hours and I missed it by 3 mins tough, but also lets me know that it's definitely possible for me maybe better fueling more water would've helped me get there. Also, my first time running over 15 miles, let alone getting to that 15 mile check point and having 16 more miles to go! That last 10 miles felt like an eternity but I just kept pushing; the last 5k I needed to walk most of it! You'll be good and bounce back very impressive goals for your first marathon!
Aw man, 3 minutes off sucks with how close you were. Congrats on your first ultra! These failures only act as learning lessons for us to better prepare next time and come back stronger! Sounds like a tough finish though and I definitely will bounce back, thank you!
Although you did not hit your goals you still completed it. All your runs are not always going to be perfect. Good to see you went through with it. Keep training it will get better.
100%! Recovering from an injury and getting back into it currently. Thanks!
i would not do "test" marathon miles in training
Why do they say this? Is it because of the volume and recovery time?
@@TylerSinden you get no benefits of a training run over 3 hours, you are only risking your body and injury
your issue isn't with the distance but with fueling your body properly before and during the race if you're hitting a "wall"
@@BroPhotography Wouldn't necessarily say I hit a "wall". I think it was just an atypical day of running for me, so it may have skewed my perception of the run.
Why is 3 hours the limit? How did someone discover that?
People also train for ultras and run +30 miles in training, so I would say go ahead you know your body and what it can handle.
I’ve never run a marathon but something similar happened to me last year when I ran a half marathon. I wasn’t well rested. After about 7 or 9 miles, my feet started feeling heavy. Like my shoes were made of bricks, my hips were killing me, my lungs were on fire and I just had an overall bad time. Somehow I managed to finish in 2 hours.
Awesome, well done! Way to push through it
I would love to have documented my first marathon as you did man. Thx for sharing and good job
I wish I did a bit better at it, but feel like this was around the best I could do by myself. Thanks!
I think the first one is always going to be rough because you just don’t know what to expect. But you did it and that’s amazing! Good luck with the next one
That's true. it's the first time doing something and you can't expect to be great the first time you do it. Thank you!
well done brother - it takes a lot to even be part of a marathon, both physically and mentally, so kudos to you! keep up the good work as always.
I appreciate that! 🙏
Last summer I tore my Achilles at 37, this May I decided to go couch to marathon in 5 months and did the kc marathon last Saturday. It was all good until mile 19. The last 7 miles were pure hell but I finished it. Will definitely keep training for about a year before doing another. It wasn’t enough time to run a good race
Love that you just threw yourself in it and got the job done! I almost did that recently with my second marathon, but decided not to due to my injury from this marathon still lingering.
I would have just been doing it to do it and not running a good pace like you're aiming for with your next. Good luck with the training and your next marathon!
Keep your head up bud, I'm sure next time it will go better, you should be proud that you did it!
I appreciate that! However, my goal wasn't really to finish, it was specific times. I believe I already knew that I could finish. Next time we'll get it 😤
I expected to hear your time was around 5h.
3.38 is an amazing result. Well done!
lol I appreciate it! Everything based from my training and where I knew I was at, the minimum I should have been in good conditions was sub 3:30.
Well done. Great effort for first marathon. The only advice I would give is to train as you are going to run. Don't try something new for the race. Practice using gels etc during training so no surprises during the race.
Thanks! My training is definitely not normal cause I don't drink anything or eat anything during haha but I'll probably need to switch that up.
I panicked a little when Tyler had his first gel ever!!
@@SparkesIsRunning lol my stomach is usually pretty strong, so I wasn't too worried.
Yeah. Nice work! Don't let it get you down. Your first marathon is prep for the rest you will do. You'll make so many stupid mistakes no matter how prepared you think you are. 3:30 is really ambitious and you got close. You're definitely on track. A practice marathon is definitely good. Don't let people scare you into not doing it. I would keep it at least 3 weeks out though maybe 4. Doing it too early in the training block isn't as useful. I'm shooting for 3:00 next year, so definitely not elite, but I've done maybe 25 marathons now.
I appreciate all that man! I wouldn't do it close to an actual race day, might do it sometime during this Ironman training, but at the same time, wouldn't want to risk an injury. That's awesome man! Best of luck. I want to get there eventually and qualify for the Boston Marathon.
Motivation for the next one! Im sure you did what you could on that day. Keep pushing 💪🏾
Heck yeah! Tried to put my best foot forward, but definitely gave me more motivation for next time. Thanks, Harland 💯
Way to finish 👍. Good job!
Thank you!
2:28 for first with a 1:12 closing half. Handicap race ran from backmark to take win. No social media, no you tube documentary just run based triathlon training around a labouring job.
Ran 45km 4 weeks prior as an accident as just did 3hr run.
Back up again two weeks later ran a 2:42 and then two weeks after that a 2:32.
Dang, you're a pro! That's how I started out, but decided it might be cool to document my journey and then I would be able to always look back on it.
Bro, that’s no failure! You should be super proud of yourself. First off , that’s not a a bad time and you overcame several challenges to ultimately get to the finish line. Count this as a win!
I appreciate that! That's true, but when I look at my training leading up, my baseline goal should have been easily achievable, but we'll get there next time!
I’m running my first marathon next month I’m beyond nervous.
Awesome! Best of luck, Hector. Just put in the work and prepare the best you can and then it's just another run (but slightly longer).
One foot in front of the other.
It’s really is hard your first time, the more you train tho the easier it will be, prepare for the worst haha good job for finishing 🎉
thank you! Yeah, talking with people in the bike community, they barely train for stuff and are able to go out and perform because their endurance has been building for so long.
1st marathon 3:38 and you are not happy?
Im doing my first one in nyc nov 5 if i do sub 5 hours ill be happy
We're all on our own paths. Comparing myself to myself, I knew I should have done better. Good luck with your marathon! Don't go out too hard and pace yourself to get that sub-5 - you got this! 😤
I understand still 3:38 is very very good .
But hope next one youll get a PR
Thank you 🙏 all the best
How cool (and inspiring) that you managed to do this while not feeling well. 😊
It was a grind, but we made it!
I just saw this. Sorry for the logistic issues that surely affected your race since sleep night before is always bad - and you had two of them (tho waking up on wrong day was a first 😂).
haha thanks, it's my own fault.. I swear at one point it said the race was on Saturday 😅 but true, two rough sleeps in a row, maybe I should try some training days when I'm sleep deprived lol
You did wonderfully well!
Thank you
Still a great effort, might not of gone to plan but at least you have more experience going into the next one 💪
That's facts! 😤
Dude you did really good 👍🏼
Thank you 🙌
Good job, as long as you did and finished it. There’s a lot to learn from for the first marathon if you plan on running again! Good luck. Also what training program did you follow?
100%. Learned a lot from this and I found a 16 week program to run sub 3:30 online and started it about 6 weeks in as I signed up for this about 2.5 months out. Thank you though!
Interesting how relatively low your HR was during the whole race yet you felt like it was hard. Maybe your watch isn't tracking it properly? Watches aren't as accurate as chest or arm strap, but this seems way off. It seemed you were in easy zone the whole way?
Nah, it never tracked for about 18ish miles and it really annoyed me. I would guess that I was around the 150-160 heart rate zone.
Congratulations! It’s absolutely not a failure if you finished and learned from the experience…
Thanks and that's true about learning from it!
I just tripped over your video and was about to blast you for not knowing the proper date for your marathon but after a very respectable finish time ill change my angle 》 why have you not informed your audience of any of your training schedule? Have I missed something? Just curious how you achieved your time that is all.
lmao blast me, I'm dumb for that 😂 Felt like an idiot when I was down there ready to run.
I just started getting back into TH-cam and posting. I'm currently training for an Ironman and trying to document the journey and thought the marathon would be a good addition. I can definitely do a video on that once I get back to full health!
I believe one reason why I ran a half-decent time is because of my body and have always been in sports. Running has never really been that hard for me, I just never enjoyed it before.
Man I did 4:57. I would have loved to have your time. I get it though. I missed my target by 27 minutes. For a first time I just wanted to survive and I did.
Yeah, we're all at different levels. I was also trying to just survive as well haha I wanted to make sure my heart wasn't too elevated but my watch wasn't tracking which annoyed me. That's really awesome to hear though! Congrats on finishing your first and hopefully more to come! 🚀
That speed is nuts with an illness!
Appreciate it! I guess it's all perspective. I thought I would be able to run quite a bit faster, but still only my first and something to improve upon for the future!
You took gels for the first time the day b4 your marathon?!
That would be correct lol
Awesome! I finished Miami marathon 4:28
Well done, Frank! Congrats 🙌
Do NOT run a full marathon in training - that is long-held standard advice. You will be more prone to injury, you will need a long recovery time which will impact your training schedule for the next two weeks, and you will get burnt out. NO respect for you, training wrong and not even smart enough to get the correct day. Thumbs down. I have done 29 marathons and was always smart enough to show up on the correct day.
Training to run marathon on a low carb diet is like trying to drive across the country with no gas, proper diet will massively increase the benefits you get from training
I would debate that, or you just didn't give a good analogy because no gas will get you nowhere.
You are being way too hard on yourself. You did a great effort on the day and under the circumstances.
I appreciate that. It's how I am on myself and hold myself to these standards. Thought I had sub 3:30 easy, so wasn't impressed not hitting that.
I fell ill the day before my first marathon and I did not run it. Something tells me you will break whatever goals you set next time. 👍
Yes sir, definitely will!
I wouldn't call this a failure, it's a success story. I made a video on my channel of my first marathon and it took me 5:00😂
Ehhh, I had goals I wanted to hit (and judging from my training) I should have been able to hit my baseline easily.
That's awesome! Congrats on your first marathon as well!
Bro showed up on the wrong day 😂😂😂
I was so embarrassed hahah not sure how many people I told it was that day too
Why do you think that you have failed? You finished it and you even had a great time. And beeing sick is not an excuse, its something that we cant controle but affects us.
My goal wasn't to finish, I knew that I was able to finish. I wanted to hit my goal times and I get that, I'm just someone that's not a fan of excuses, and I'm hard on myself.
@@TylerSinden I wish you good luck for your next one. But still it is good to be thankful for the working body that we have. Despite of beeing 5 mins faster or not.
@@antiskillz5663 That's true, gotta be grateful for what we have and can do. Thank you!
Ridiculous mistake to not even know the correct day. I have run 29 marathons and never made that mistake. Shame on you.
You seem to be very hard on your self
Gotta be. High standards for myself.
NOT smart trying new foods for this long run.
lol I know they say that, but I like living on the edge a little bit
Nothing new on race day!!!!
😅
Why on earth would you eat low carb while marathon training ? Carb is the main energy source your body taps in to. Get yourself more informed and it will be so much better
I had no issues and felt great throughout all of my training.
@TylerSinden imagine if you were fuelling properly how much better it would be
@@LuiisSiilvaa I would say my diet was better than 99%+ people during my training and my body just learned to turn fat into a fuel source 🤷♂
@TylerSinden that's rubbish, running is a glycolitical sport, you need carbs.
If you done well on low carb you will do much better on carbs.
You are no wizard or alien, it's science.
That's why I said, get informed, look in to it. You will benefit tremendously