$1200 for Pilates. Is that code for something else? Give them both some time. Men are kept out of the birth recovery process. Women go to centers for a week or so after birth.
@@kristinesharp6286 go to centres for a week or so? I was out of the hospital in under 24hrs after having my son. I hate hospitals, no way were they making me stay a week.
"If he really didn't love you then he wouldn't have married you" …. How ignorant and small minded are these guests. You can marry out of lust, out of greed, out of boredom, out of infatuation, out of revenge, out of pressure, and also for money. I'm so sick of Hello Counselor trying to forge two incompatible couples together. I can guarantee you that the couples will still continue to fight when they go home. Like stated by the wife -- *He always gives a half-hearted apology. He's just apologizing to make it go away* which leads to the possibility that all of this could have been an act in attempt to make the problems go away.
Yeah, i agree with you. But he had a choice to leave her when she was pregnent, but he choose to marry her. It dose shows tht he wanted her in his life.
I agree but she specifically said "at the point when you told him about being pregnant he wouldn't have married you if he didn't love you." Which has a slightly different meaning behind how you interpreted it. It's still not necessarily accurate. Lots of couples get married specifically because culturally and religiously they feel they have to if they have a child together.
exactly That was the part that Shocked me the most, i cant believe he treated her that badly after she gave birth to his child...He is such a Heartless man smh
sherine he doesn’t need to understand how that feels to know it’s bad. If someone got stabbed would you brush it off as a minor injury? All he needs to do is know BASIC human anatomy to understand what a pelvic dislocation is. And I’m pretty sure he knows what a pelvis is.
I think he didn't care about her pain. Period. I get the feeling that he thinks well, SHE insisted on keeping the baby, so now she needs to suffer the consequences. He thinks it's her deserved punishment for her choice and he has nothing to do with it. He didn't care about her suffering.
NEVER lower your expectations/standards...but also don't expect them to lower theirs for you! This is just a bad toxic relationship and divorce is the best thing for them. Marriage does not equal being miserable and sacrificing your sanity to just keep the marriage.
He didn't want her like that. She was probably the rebound and he was trying to get laid. He was playing the game to get some and she got knocked up. If he is buying gifts for the ex then he probably still has feelings for her and hoped to get back with her one day but the baby stopped all of that and now he is trapped and pissed at his life.
I think she meant that when he was in a relationship with his ex he was generous and bought that girl stuff but now with her he isn't. Not that he bought his ex gifts while he was married to her now. Still, she should divorse him. She is gorgeous and he seems so unappriciative and arrogant.
I don't understand why they make it seem like divorce is such a horrible option. Even when concerns come in where the husband is an alcoholic, gambler, or abuser, they tell the wife to just bear with it and that their child growing up without a dad is worse.
@@michelle2791 Because divorce in Korea is not good, Korean think it's a tragedy and people don't see them great after. They can Also not be remarried because they had a divorce before
@@simsgazytech2013 I live in Korea and for new generation sure it's easier but When you are 30 or 40 and had a divorce it's difficult, there is a lot of conservative people in Korea
@@yeyosilver7067 Who is blaming the child for their recklessness? The culprits should have used condoms. Instead of dating for a few weeks and drifting apart, those two dumb immature knuckleheads brought a child into their loveless relationship.
lol i'm 100% sure this relationship will get even worse after this episode. They're spilling every single bad thing about each other on TV. Just get that divorce already!!
adriana kirst I’m sure there’s more as well who knows if they got physical they obviously don’t work out but it suck that they have a baby so they must be cautious because their actions will determine the baby’s future
I sure hope it doesn't. Can't get much worse than "I will crash this car and kill us both" You do know that after the show ends they see a REAL counselor/therapist, footed by the production team/show. I hope you don't think these people just talk to a bunch of celebrities and then go home like their problems are solved right?
I do hope so, but koreans don't take therapy seriously. I mean, the whole world doesn't but they don't believe in it. It's sad because they have a serious rate of suicide over there.
I understood it as messages from before these two got together. Like, he paid for the classes from his girlfriend when they were a couple, but didn't delete those messages after they broke up.
Why can't hello counselor be honest and just say they need to get a divorce? They're just gonna be unhappy for the rest of their lives with their broken marriage
Whilst the two do need to divorce, especially by western standards, Korean culture often frowns down upon and shuns single mothers whether or not she is co-parenting with the father (and the father clearly is struggling with adapting to being a natural father/ fatherhood as a whole) so Hello Counselor would obviously take the viewpoint of Korean Society. Also, they perhaps want the child to have a typical masculine figure in the household as is expected of Koreans. The child is a huge factor in the divorce and if they were to try and work it out then the child wouldn't have to deal with the problems of seeing the father and mother living separately and being frowned upon/ bullied severely
If they can work throught their problems than everything is okay -.- like be mature and try, if it is not working than end it, and thanks god they want to try... like don't put words in my mount! -.- gosh I hate when people do that.
That woman in the yellow shirt giving the most terrible advice to existence "you must lower your expectations". The only thing I heard from this was "lower your standards and accept everything trash this man does to you". We women are always the ones that have to hold the shit and eat it with a smile on our faces just to save a worrying marriage and always make our sad of an excuse husbands happy forever. It always disturbs me how the forgiving, intellectual advice has to go to the wife, daughter, girlfriend; woman. IT tells that 1) the man is hard to change 2) you are more mature (or should be more mature) so you could live somewhat satisfied while the man can be just as childish and angry as ever. Please ladies, never listen to such advice. Always make your expectations higher, make him change for you, not the other way around. We always compensate for men since the day we were born. "Don't wear this they will think derogatory of you" "Don't act this way they will think less of you" "You must become a good cook so any man will want to have you" and these are just examples of our normal, daily lives just to show you how we always compensate. What he was doing to his wife, especially in the most vulnerable stage in her life, was puke worthy. I am so sad for her and I hope if she chooses to stay with him, just at least for the sake of the baby, that he will change the way he acts towards her.
No, her advice wasn't bad. Marriage is about compromise, give and take and putting someone else before yourself sometimes. It's not about a man worshipping his wife as she steps all over him. It's not about a woman living life only to please the husband. Sometimes people expect a perfect guy but everyone's human, and everyone screws up, and if that girl expected the immature dude to become Mr. Perfect suddenly and make no mistakes and mature up so suddenly just because she had a baby, it's a little unrealistic. What the woman in the yellow was saying was that if you expect to end up with someone who will check off all the boxes on your "ideal man" list, you'll probably end up alone or angry at everyone for falling short of it. Setting standards that are impossible for others to live up to or despising others who are trying but are not living up to the standards you set is a little unreasonable. It seems the wife got angry and bitter every time the husband did not do what she expected him to do or wanted him to do, rather than communicating with him and maturely explaining the situation. And the husband is just your typical man-child. Both the husband and wife seem to be impulsive and selfish and honestly if the woman wants a better man, she should be a better woman. So should the guy. The man just seems young and immature like a college/high school kid, and the woman seems to have a spiteful and bitter personality.
They are both really hot tempered, immature and revengeful. They do not compromise or be considerate for each other, each just wanting their way and do not give in. I hope they can work it out and be better for each other because no matter what, they have a responsibility now.
linger368 yes. She isn't innocent in this either. They both are to blame and they go tit for tat. He mentioned that when they went on the trip he asked if she was safe for sex and she said yes which clearly isn't true since she got pregnant in 3 months. A baby is a huge responsibility so I don't blame the guy for feeling apprehensive. Maybe he intended on proposing,being engaged for a while, then get married, be married for a while then have a baby. But to go from just dating to married with a kid in less than a year is a huge change. Both need to re-examine their expectations for each other.
So many comments saying don’t spread your legs before marriage. But the main issue I see in a lot of these therapy couples is the fact that they got together because it was comfortable. They were finally in a relationship and rushed to marriage without fully getting to know if they were compatible with their partner. So many unhappy marriages that people are too scared to leave because it’s ingrained in their culture.
@@ms.chuisin7727 but in KR that part is really true. Ppl looks down on single mother (more if u r a divorced) but not men. Hate to say this but KR is a patriarchal country.
Moomoo it could’ve also been prevented with protection. I’ll be damned if I’m not going to satisfy my sexual appetite because I don’t want to be married. I’ve been having protected sex for 15 yrs & haven’t gotten pregnant.
I like how the friends aren’t baised and genuinely believe that they both could do better even if it’s mostly the husband failing on the aspects of their marriage
Okay I hated the guy for saying to get rid of the baby BUT watching this makes me frustrated with the both of them, its pretty obvious that if they want to make this work, then both should do an effort to change. I hate how they act cause they’re parents now, it seems like they’re just counting each others mistake that it looks like a competition on who have a lesser mistake and such. I feel sorry for their kid, he has to see his parents like this. :(
They r both immature as of now..no side want to be a bit considerate..they do revenge instead of talking and letting things out. This is among the reason why couple's communication is extremely important in marriage.
honestly i dont think it was wrong of him to at least ask her if hse was willing to get an abortion. if he really didnt want a child, thats a perfectly reasonable thing to ask. in fact it probably would have been an overall better decision to get the pregnancy termiated instead of forcing the child to grow up with completely shitty parents who dont understand the first thing about their responsibilities
Super Junior's Super Juniors yes, I get your point BUT it could’ve been nice if he explained it to her and make it clear why he wanted an abortion cause that would’ve caused a huge scar on the girl’s emotional and mental aspect since it’s her whose experiencing the pregnancy which could’ve lead to depression or something worse than that.
@@tiyas5378 yes the child may be stuck in a shitty situation, but i don't agree that it would have been better to terminate the child. you can't predict the child's future.
My bff, while dating her now husband, talked a lot about when they get married. They talked about how responsibility is split, how to manage their bills and whether they plan to have kids. They didn't jump right into the marriage just because everyone was getting married. Her other friend got married without talking about the finances.... that can cause a lot of friction as well as family plans.
@@ikrameamallah3725 yup and they survived until they died. They said they still together because of child, but they show they unhappiness to their children.
Kimag I really hope one day in the future this will be me and my future husband bc this marriage contract is for a long time and even though there is love we must set rules and priorities first to be able to understand and trust one another and not jump into something we are not prepared for🤞🤞🤞
As a divorced person,i cudnt agree more.I dated the same for person for 8 5 yrs before gettin married.But marriage is somethin else.Took us 6 yrs to realise its not workin and another 1 yr to get divorce.lots of feelings and emotions wasted.Lot of time wasted.
19:57 You should never tell someone to lower their expectations or standards for someone else's comfort. Of course, you shouldn't divorce without trying to fix your marriage, and if you can, great...but if you can't, don't stay in a marriage that makes you unhappy.
it's always so weird for me to watch everytime the guest mentions all his/her concerns to the hosts and they will just introduce the "culprit" as if there's nothing wrong and all smiles to the camera 😂
I agree with her friend. Their relationship didn't seem like it was going very far to begin with, it was very casual. Given that their personalities clash, it would've ended if she hadn't gotten pregnant. I can understand both sides. Neither of them were ready for this to happen, especially the husband; it looks like he never wanted kids in the first place. The wife should definitely leave him and find someone better who would be willing to love to her and the baby. Although, that's unlikely, given the marriage culture in Korea.
i learn a lot from this.. the artists give lot of good advise..'if he doesn't meet your expectations, lower it'.. hopefully this couple live happily now
@@catherinesmith5793 idc where they are this could easily turn out worse than it already is if they don't divorce right now their personalities just clash all the time and when they clash like that it could affect the baby so it really shouldn't matter what society thinks in this moment this could turn into an abusive relationship
I am totally scared having a partner or boyfriend at the age of 22 years but I am more scared to get married. Can't imagine myself being in a relationship like this. This is so scary.
You can get divorced marriage isn't a prison sentence. If it's bad you can get out of it. My parents divorced when I was little and both moved on to better relationships. My mum remarried and had another child too. Most important thing is to not rush into getting married in the first place which is where my parents went wrong. Take time getting to know each other. Don't give up your independence either so that you can afford to stand on your own two feet should things turn bad and always maintain good communication as that's why many relationships fail.
Samara Gooch Some men cannot accept that and they kill the wife. Actually killing the wife might be better. There is news every now and then of men burns, throws acid at them and even chop off her hands and feets. Just becareful and don't be blinded by love when you see the warning sign. Also never help the man by making up excuses for them.
@@AramasG Nowadays, some of men has no balls. They can easily hurts their girlfriend, partner or wife even they ruined the family. Most on social media and news that I can see either killing your wife, your children and etc. That was so scary.
That sounds like my mom and her husband. They've been like this for 10 years. Everyone had told her to divorce. Even myself. She says she will be left with nothing if she divorces my stepdad because he works for a lawyer. She says as long as we ignore him in the house it's fine. I wanted them to divorce years ago because he was mentally and emotionally abusive to both of us.
Tal_Tal Kim the news about a men who threw acid at women not even husband and wife anymore, he threw it to his EX-wife. After that, he set his EX-parent in law's house in fire. His reason was because she ask for divorce, and he really holding grudge because of it. Somehow rn, you cannot easily get divorce, people could going nut. All we can do rn is to not rush a thing.
They both need to grow more. You can make a bad situation good if the two of them work hard at it. It's not the worse thing to happen when a couple is starting life together.
18:54 NOOOO that's such a dangerous logic!!! people get married for many reasons, you can't just say 'oh he married you, so he ~loves~ you and therefore everything he's done because of love. stop romanticising marriage like that. the action of marriage =/= love.
She obviously meant that he loves her because he married her knowing what it implies and all the responsibilities he'll have to take. He sacrificed a lot. That's what makes her say that he loves her, not for the simple fact that he married her.
Yes!!! It's happened when two kids got married, immature and revenge can happen when the couple not thinking about responsibility. Why got married if don't want give commitment???
@@gelaskopi89 Getting pregnant doesn't mean you have to get married. There are other options that may be more responsible than being trapped like in the situation now.
This is the worst story i ever watched in hello counselor ... They don t really love or respect each other they had sex and now they r stuck that s all
Lawanduuhhh !! Hmmm idk i dont wanna say she trapped him.. it takes two to make a baby. But right now they have to take a step back with what they want for themselves. They have to give their baby a great deal of consideration. The wife wants allll the love and baby-ing in the world and the hubby is insensitive. They both need to grow up. It not about them anymore.
My mom was married in young age. She had no happiness during her marriage, she spent her life to survive with a bad man. My father is not responsible, temperament and easy to underestimated my mom. Many times I was being witness for their quarrel, There is no reason to stay with unmature man. many stigmas in our socaity that , " Marriage is the final of your love, and survive in your relationship it mean you keep your love and your children! ". No it's not ,if you meet with a bad guy leave him. Bcz Not only you but your children would feel a house like a hell, they might have traumatic or involve in toxic relationships bcz they could't find what a real love is.
Anyone else disagree when one of the girls told the wife that if your husband doesn’t meet your expectations, then you should just lower them?? Like wtf.
What can they do about it?? He is not a boyfriend but a husband...if they both can't satisfy their expectations for each other then why can't they just understand and adjust and be contented with what they have...this will make the marriage workout😊
I think she is saying like unrealistic expectations? Like she wants him to chase and look for her but then doesnt tell him where she is and also doesnt respond to him. They both have to lower their pride and ask for what they want from each other. When a person is constantly let down because they have too many and too high of an expectation, it doesnt matter if the other person is trying or improving because it will just look like disappointment from the other side. I dont think she meant like abusive or extreme cases?
Whenever I see concerns like this on this show, the husbands always seem so cold. I can’t help but feel like nothing will be resolved when they go back home
That's what you call a shotgun marriage . They dated for 3 months and got pregnant they didn't have the time to see if they were good for each other , aspect that came out very soon . They married the wrong person . I can understand the guy a bit , I would be scared of having a baby so young , which I will have to rise even if I am not ready , financially or non . That said abortion is not my thing , but an unwanted child can ruin you especially if you don't change your view on things . Lastly she should be independent with money and not ask money to him always
Adelina it doesn’t sound like she depends on him for money; he tells her to pay with her own money. I think it’s more the principle, that it’s unfair she’s the only one paying for baby necessities.
I couldn’t even finish it. This is a coupe that should not be together and definitely would have broken up within months if they had not gotten pregnant. They are obviously way too young and immature to handle being a married couple. It’s sad that societal pressures and ideals force people into marriages because of pregnancy. They can be parents without being together.
Lol, yea I agree with u. I fast forward the video. They got married because of a sense of responsibility without knowing each other well enough. They got married few months after they know each other. So it is not surprising they will still be in that arguing phase especially when there is more pressure and responsibility that they will have to take even after they got married and give birth to the baby.
at first I was like "what a douchebag! leave him!". then i was like "damn she's a little too dramatic." then i was like "damn they should not be togetther." lol wishing the best for them especially because there's a little baby involved.
@@toriella6238 Our parents used to live in different situation and used to have different expectations. They knew that marriage needs hard work and perseverance. Many youngsters nowadays just want romance and sex. Marriage is like a party. You may have fun, but you also needs to prepare food and music. You also need to clean the place afterwards.
I see that the guy is getting more hate here, but the girl told him it's ok to have unprotected sex... that's also fucked. He probably thought she was on the pill. This is sad. They got married because of the stigma in Korea. I feel bad for both of them
I came to realise recently that marriage is not something that everyone can go through completely. You cannot imagine the effort you have to put into the marriage, how understanding and loving you have to try and even when you don’t want to be or can’t. Marriage is about pulling through together and not something you can just break between two people, it’s a real commitment and in need to communication. Though it may seem hard work, but it can be a really beautiful thing if two people really learn to love one another. Because I know and have seen the difficulties in marriage, I know I’m not ready/mature to just get married like that.
@@Brit15102 don't worry about it, I myself don't quite agree with abortion either. Still even if she didn't get abortion she still can put the child for an adoption.
blueraineee there are people who think that abortion=killing so if they don't want to care for the child why not give them a chance to find a loving parents rather than stuck with people who would constantly think that the child is a mistake. Just an opinion.
this is just a terrible marriage and it’s not just one sided they’re just awful together and it’s clear their personalities clash... I really hope they’re able to work it out though
I dont feel like he was a big jerk for asking the girl to Get an abortion. I think he grasped more of the situation than the girl. The girl was happy and told all her friends before She told the guy even though their relationship wasnt stable. If Thats What he was considering then Why shouldnt he ask it? Go around the Bushes instead?
Exactly !! its such a practical point of view. The argument of abortion being murder is beyond me. I dont know, too big an issue. But practically it makes sense , not to bring a life into the world that a person is incapable of being responsible for. Actually a person should do everything with in their grasp not to have babies before they are ready. It not fair all around. Its not fair to the grand parents who have to babysit , its not fair to the baby , its not fair to the spouse who doesnt want the baby in the first place. But its such a difficult situation to be in. I wish them well because i wouldn't know what to do either.
@@yasminabdu2569 I honestly don't understand why people make such a big deal when it comes to abortion and call the one who wants to get an abortion a murder or something like that. First of all, if someone chooses not to get an abortion then okay,good job, live your life how you want to, but there are also people who actually choose to get an abortion because of different circumstances and I think that people shouldn't go around and call them murderers because of this. Second of all, in the period when abortion is still available, there isn't even a human being formed inside of the organism, the "baby" it's just a couple of cells that haven't had any progression whatsoever and they can't be consudered a human being yet,so the one that gets an abortion doesn't "kill a baby" because there is no baby formed at that period
I agree. They had only been dating for 3 months, and he had recently left his job and was living on his father's goodwill. It is not unreasonable to consider abortion when you come up pregnant in those circumstances. I think he could have broached the subject more delicately, but considering it wasn't wrong.
this is a good and rational thought. i think shes being selfish and not caring on the opinion of the husband like he needs to agree on her of anything smh
Of all the episodes to have results in the hundreds, this one needed to be one of those!! There is a huge concern for them on so many fronts. I mean lack of trust, jealousy, lack of respect...they needed real counseling.
I think it's 40% her fault but 60% his fault. He might've been stressed about having a baby but he wasn't the pregnant one. He should've been more considerate of her when she was pregnant and just gave birth. She doesn't need to lower her expectations but needs to make sure her side of communication is clear and not be so insecure when he is out.
50% for both in my opinion. The wife is there to get sympathy and put all the blame to him, it is a mistake when she spilled her behaviour in checking her husband past messages and transaction then compared it to her life now smh.. they both hot tempered, immature, selfish and clearly put rings for the baby incident
It always amazes me how people don't take a morning after pill if they want to go raw. And I think the percentages are flipped. She seems to be the less mature and manipulative of the two. Having a baby didn't make sense economically and they weren't even far in to their relation. Abortion would have been the better option. But since we heard everything from her point of view we are bound to be slightly biased to her.
Arnimal Kaul Yeah, personally i oppose abortion. It is a baby accident for them so they should take responsibility for their mistake, raise or at least support the baby financially. Eventhough they're still immature parents that will lead them getting into quarrel a lot, i hope this program can make them realize the best solution for them. Poor baby
志瑜杨 the husband was an ass but i think it’s more the wife’s fault. He clearly was reluctant to have a child in the first place, she should have raised it separately
I think hello counsellor should just stop trying to save marriages that clearly aren't working. Just say 'yeah I think you two need a divorce bye' these two cave spend another week together they're not compatible at all ://
Wth did I just watch?! The guy even threatened to crash his car when she wanted out of it and these people are encouraging them to stay together? Good grief.
when you tell a woman to get an abortion that is worse than hitting them and cursing at them. I have been there. At 17 years old I was getting ready to give birth to my first born and only son and his father told me to get an abortion. I had to explain to him that it was to late. I only had a month to go before my son was born. After that I stressed out every day that he was going to find away to get rid of my son. because of that stress I gave birth 2 weeks early. I was in the hospital over christmas/winter break. I was alone even though he would come and visit (for about 5 minutes) every day. My family would not even drive to visit me (my mother was in prison for arson and attempted murder), grandma Ruth lived to far away and my aunts really did not like me at the time. My foster parents had other children to worry about. By the way I was in the labor and delivery room most of the day and night by myself. If I remember right I gave birth with no one there with me. The father came afterwards and even named our son. After I turned 18 years old I married his father and had 2 girls 2 years apart from each other. After 8 years of marriage I was done being an physical and verbal punching bag for him. Sometimes you just have to leave for your own safety.
The fact I love about this show is that they don't try to stress too much on the problem as they realise it will create more trouble for the parties involved rather they concentrate on solving the problem and giving good advice to create more peace. That is why they are Counselor! Hello Counselor.
Yoooo these Korean shows crack me up. First of all the put sound effects and other little noises and pictures up every few seconds at the most serious of times. I saw one where the girl was talking about feeling suicidal and they still have the funny noises. And then the sad music when the lady started crying? Man these are hilarious 😂
그러게 콘돔 썻어야지 둘 다 똑같아 애초 잘못은 둘다! 남자쪽에서는 분명 애 지우자고 했는데 육아를 혼자서 감당 못할거면 왜 낳은건지 낳기만하면 남자가 잘할거라 생각한건가 본인 인생 본인이 망쳐놓고 우는거 진짜 이해안돼 누구 한명 잘한것 없이 공평하게 똑같다 아이만이 최대의 피해자
I want to slap both the man and the woman lol. The man is such a jerk and the woman is just as wicked. She is one of those woman who play sympathy game in front of others and people can never tell how wicked she is with her temper and sided her like she is a saint and the man will get all the blame. They should just get divorce.
Can we have a petition for these kind of people not to breed? I'm so done with guys using a lot of excuses not to help raise their own baby. That'll save a lot of innocent lives. They can't be brought up in the broken families either. A lot of guys act so dense when their girlfriend or wife told them they're pregnant. When you're doing that, you should keep in mind that a pregnancy could happen even when she told you it's a safe time. Wrap your tiny buddy in it's special cloth even after your partner took the birth control. Or not to release it in her. Better be safe for both. You like raw so you should've known the implications of your action. It's prone to happen at times. Or somebody should come up with an agreement that needed to be signed countless time, every single time they're making love for both side to be equally and actively involved in the kids life. If they can't, castrate both. Easy. Some other people tried hard to have babies but the one that got it way easily are throwing the opportunities away right of the bat. Correct me if I'm wrong.
My dad always says there should be test everyone who wants to reproduce should have to take because "some people just shouldn't breed" and I'm beginning to think he has a point.
Every country should made it possible. If they can't love kids, they shouldn't get one. Take any precautions so no poor babies is brought into this world and treated cruelly.
Oh, look, another man hating feminist who doesn't even know that women can use birth control too and refuses to acknowledge that women should take any responsibility for their own actions.
this is my 1st time seeing here that both the parties are equally responsible for it,,,normally in this platform mostly the complainer is getting torchured the most
They are a newly wed couple with full of pride, they really need to work their relationship cause its obvious that they love each other. P.s. I cried when the husband cry omg,
Use protection people!! Don't make a baby if you don't want to take care of one!! This is exactly what would happen if your one night stand bears fruit 😤😤😤
I think the crux of their problem comes down to the fact that they just haven't known each other for very long. I agree with Byul here, they each need to drop whatever preconceived ideas they had about what a wife or a husband is supposed to be and meet each other where they're at then move forward from there. I think there's a way through their problems, but it will take a lot of patience, commitment, and communication. It seems neither is really willing to put that effort in though, so it could go either way. But it seems a bit early simply to give up on the marriage, especially when they haven't really tried to make it work.
This was such an intelligent reply! Too many comments here were way fatalistic and absolute and human relationships are never black and white, that’s what makes them so complex and beautiful and tragic. Hope these two somehow make it through and serve as inspiration that relationships take hard work to plow through the seemingly impossible.
No. There's no inherent value in keeping a marriage. Why stay together when they can find someone they're more compatible with? It's like eating a rotten fruit when there are thousands of fresh ones around you. "If you eat pills and drink lots of water, you won't die from the rotten fruit". NO! Just throw that fruit away and get another one!
When a guy is not ready and you force his hand, he becomes uncooperative and unsupportive. He alr said he didn't want the baby. If she wanted to keep the baby, she should've gone on by herself.
I thought the same. He resents her for clearly not respecting his wishes and that has carried on into their rushed marriage. Clearly he has nothing against the kid. I think more than the man, the woman is the less understanding one in this situation.
Arnimal Kaul you guys sound so selfish Abortion is not like a walk in the park the way you guys think it is,it affects you for all your life and not everyone is comfortable with the idea of terminating pregnancy only there is a risk factor involved like the likelihood of death. And she didn’t force his hand,if he wasn’t ready to be a father then he shouldn’t have had sex with her in the first place Or at least made sure that he used protection so that it wouldn’t happened,because surprisingly enough protection isn’t only the woman responsibility
@@odinelsamendes4596 The husband wasn't only one who had sex....they both had sex together hence both are responsible I know abortion is not an easy step to take coz it may affect u mentally also, but she is not happy with her life now too...both of them are miserable ....their personalities really clash with each other.....moreover the one who suffers the most will be their child
I really like the woman in the blue shirt she gave good advice and heard both sides she also listened to both sides before advising and critizing one she seems like a mature woman
They're hypocrites. They made abortion illegal to make their country look morally upright, but there are still over 300,000 abortions there every year. Just like how their government made porn illegal, but everyone still watches it, they made prostitution illegal to make themselves look good, but the majority of Korean men use prostitutes and there are brothels open everywhere. The police just turn a blind eye to it. Unfortunately it's all about appearances there, not how things actually are.
H. L. i've noticed this as well. There are a lot of contradictions when it comes to Korean law and social norms. Not to say America is perfect either (we definitely aren't), but it's like Korea is a nation that normalizes pre-marital sex while simultaneously demonizing it. As you said, porn is technically illegal but it doesn't stop anyone from watching it. And people fuss over whether their significant other has had a lot of "experience" or not as if it were a bad thing, but then there are a huge number of 'love motels' (aka a place specifically for people who need a place to have sex).
Marriage is not a easy. You have to embrace each others flaws, build each others weaknesses and encourage each others strengths. Marry when you are ready enough to accept that there are more problems to face than happinesses to share. My mom's comment hehehe
I actually agree with the panel this time in the episode saying that they can make the marriage work. I don't think that she was a rebound or anything and I believe that he actually does like her and she likes him, just that all the frustration and miscommunication has piled up and they both don't realize that they're in this together. It's odd to think for some people I know but sometimes people make the wrong decision when they have so much anger in them towards a person (like when he didn't help when her pelvic bone was dislocated), but it also doesn't make it right. I hope they move past the mistakes and realize that they're in the same team and not on opposite ends.
this is like a children's fight (except its not cute)... they have the same temper and attitude. both of them are in the wrong and they won't admit or LEARN from their mistake. they need more time to get to know each other. I wish the kid well.
I actually agree with the program, they can be happy, he is trying, the pregnancy time is hard for everyone and of course they were gonna fight a lot, but putting love to the situation can fix it, they are a family now, he stay the whole time and even got emotional talking about their baby, they need time, love and patience and they're gonna be really happy with their new cute baby. Best of luck for they, they are gonna grow up together, it's sweet actually.
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But the fact that he spent $1,200 on his EX but couldn't give his WIFE $50 for their child really bothers me....
Chim- Chim I know right?? Makes me so mad 😡
Chim- Chim im more bothered about those pilates classes that cost 1200$😂🤭
he said he lost his job right before she got pregnant.
$1200 for Pilates. Is that code for something else? Give them both some time. Men are kept out of the birth recovery process. Women go to centers for a week or so after birth.
@@kristinesharp6286 go to centres for a week or so? I was out of the hospital in under 24hrs after having my son. I hate hospitals, no way were they making me stay a week.
"If he really didn't love you then he wouldn't have married you" …. How ignorant and small minded are these guests. You can marry out of lust, out of greed, out of boredom, out of infatuation, out of revenge, out of pressure, and also for money. I'm so sick of Hello Counselor trying to forge two incompatible couples together. I can guarantee you that the couples will still continue to fight when they go home. Like stated by the wife -- *He always gives a half-hearted apology. He's just apologizing to make it go away* which leads to the possibility that all of this could have been an act in attempt to make the problems go away.
Yeah, i agree with you. But he had a choice to leave her when she was pregnent, but he choose to marry her. It dose shows tht he wanted her in his life.
Hatake Kakashi Meh, he was probably pressured by society or family just like they’re being pressured to stay together
Hatake Kakashi no that’s not a choice. Leaving a pregnant lady and not taking responsibilities in Asia is never acceptable
I agree but she specifically said "at the point when you told him about being pregnant he wouldn't have married you if he didn't love you." Which has a slightly different meaning behind how you interpreted it. It's still not necessarily accurate. Lots of couples get married specifically because culturally and religiously they feel they have to if they have a child together.
Out of whaat..?
How is no one talking about the fact that he told her to fend for herself when HER PELVIC BONES HAD DISLOCATED FROM GIVING BIRTH???
Cos he doesn't understand how that feels. He thought that it was just a light injury 🙄
exactly That was the part that Shocked me the most, i cant believe he treated her that badly after she gave birth to his child...He is such a Heartless man smh
sherine he doesn’t need to understand how that feels to know it’s bad. If someone got stabbed would you brush it off as a minor injury? All he needs to do is know BASIC human anatomy to understand what a pelvic dislocation is. And I’m pretty sure he knows what a pelvis is.
Ik right wtf
I think he didn't care about her pain. Period. I get the feeling that he thinks well, SHE insisted on keeping the baby, so now she needs to suffer the consequences. He thinks it's her deserved punishment for her choice and he has nothing to do with it. He didn't care about her suffering.
NEVER lower your expectations/standards...but also don't expect them to lower theirs for you! This is just a bad toxic relationship and divorce is the best thing for them. Marriage does not equal being miserable and sacrificing your sanity to just keep the marriage.
He didn't want her like that. She was probably the rebound and he was trying to get laid. He was playing the game to get some and she got knocked up. If he is buying gifts for the ex then he probably still has feelings for her and hoped to get back with her one day but the baby stopped all of that and now he is trapped and pissed at his life.
100%
Dude thought he was a playa and got caught up. I feel bad for that poor baby.
@@lavinder11 exactly lol.
That's what I thinking after she said he spent money for his ex gf.
Poor her, really..
I think she meant that when he was in a relationship with his ex he was generous and bought that girl stuff but now with her he isn't. Not that he bought his ex gifts while he was married to her now. Still, she should divorse him. She is gorgeous and he seems so unappriciative and arrogant.
Yes he was in the relationship with his ex when he bought it
I feel bad for the kid..
People would see their parents happy photos and memories and he would go and see his parents fighting on TV..how sad
These two need a divorce asap. They are not compatible with each other at all... kinda tired of Hello Counselor trying to save all unhappy marriages.
I don't understand why they make it seem like divorce is such a horrible option. Even when concerns come in where the husband is an alcoholic, gambler, or abuser, they tell the wife to just bear with it and that their child growing up without a dad is worse.
@@michelle2791 Because divorce in Korea is not good, Korean think it's a tragedy and people don't see them great after. They can Also not be remarried because they had a divorce before
I don't think the same... I think they just are in a love-hate relationship and passionate that's Why they seem not compatible
@@kellyrowland76 that is not true. Many koreans remarry after got divorced.
@@simsgazytech2013 I live in Korea and for new generation sure it's easier but When you are 30 or 40 and had a divorce it's difficult, there is a lot of conservative people in Korea
Moral of the story: Use condoms.
Agree 100%
How the hell is this the kids fault??? Congratulations, putting the blame on the victims instead of the culprit
@@yeyosilver7067 Who is blaming the child for their recklessness? The culprits should have used condoms. Instead of dating for a few weeks and drifting apart, those two dumb immature knuckleheads brought a child into their loveless relationship.
lol i'm 100% sure this relationship will get even worse after this episode. They're spilling every single bad thing about each other on TV. Just get that divorce already!!
adriana kirst it’s probably fake lol
adriana kirst I’m sure there’s more as well who knows if they got physical they obviously don’t work out but it suck that they have a baby so they must be cautious because their actions will determine the baby’s future
I sure hope it doesn't. Can't get much worse than "I will crash this car and kill us both" You do know that after the show ends they see a REAL counselor/therapist, footed by the production team/show. I hope you don't think these people just talk to a bunch of celebrities and then go home like their problems are solved right?
Where did you get that information from? I'm actually quite relieved to hear that, considering some of the shocking advice given!
I do hope so, but koreans don't take therapy seriously. I mean, the whole world doesn't but they don't believe in it. It's sad because they have a serious rate of suicide over there.
"you should of deleted the messages." HE SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN IN THAT SORT OF CONTACT WITH HER IN THE FIRST PLACE. TF
I understood it as messages from before these two got together. Like, he paid for the classes from his girlfriend when they were a couple, but didn't delete those messages after they broke up.
Why can't hello counselor be honest and just say they need to get a divorce? They're just gonna be unhappy for the rest of their lives with their broken marriage
Whilst the two do need to divorce, especially by western standards, Korean culture often frowns down upon and shuns single mothers whether or not she is co-parenting with the father (and the father clearly is struggling with adapting to being a natural father/ fatherhood as a whole) so Hello Counselor would obviously take the viewpoint of Korean Society. Also, they perhaps want the child to have a typical masculine figure in the household as is expected of Koreans. The child is a huge factor in the divorce and if they were to try and work it out then the child wouldn't have to deal with the problems of seeing the father and mother living separately and being frowned upon/ bullied severely
Because divorce is looked down on in Korea.
Why would they divorce if they can make up? Westerns get divorced too easily tsk
@@XxXxXx-ef1rw right and have the kid grow up in a toxic household. Seriously, 'children' should be banned from having children.
If they can work throught their problems than everything is okay -.- like be mature and try, if it is not working than end it, and thanks god they want to try... like don't put words in my mount! -.- gosh I hate when people do that.
That woman in the yellow shirt giving the most terrible advice to existence "you must lower your expectations". The only thing I heard from this was "lower your standards and accept everything trash this man does to you". We women are always the ones that have to hold the shit and eat it with a smile on our faces just to save a worrying marriage and always make our sad of an excuse husbands happy forever. It always disturbs me how the forgiving, intellectual advice has to go to the wife, daughter, girlfriend; woman. IT tells that 1) the man is hard to change 2) you are more mature (or should be more mature) so you could live somewhat satisfied while the man can be just as childish and angry as ever.
Please ladies, never listen to such advice. Always make your expectations higher, make him change for you, not the other way around. We always compensate for men since the day we were born. "Don't wear this they will think derogatory of you" "Don't act this way they will think less of you" "You must become a good cook so any man will want to have you" and these are just examples of our normal, daily lives just to show you how we always compensate. What he was doing to his wife, especially in the most vulnerable stage in her life, was puke worthy. I am so sad for her and I hope if she chooses to stay with him, just at least for the sake of the baby, that he will change the way he acts towards her.
💯💯💯
No, her advice wasn't bad. Marriage is about compromise, give and take and putting someone else before yourself sometimes. It's not about a man worshipping his wife as she steps all over him. It's not about a woman living life only to please the husband. Sometimes people expect a perfect guy but everyone's human, and everyone screws up, and if that girl expected the immature dude to become Mr. Perfect suddenly and make no mistakes and mature up so suddenly just because she had a baby, it's a little unrealistic.
What the woman in the yellow was saying was that if you expect to end up with someone who will check off all the boxes on your "ideal man" list, you'll probably end up alone or angry at everyone for falling short of it. Setting standards that are impossible for others to live up to or despising others who are trying but are not living up to the standards you set is a little unreasonable.
It seems the wife got angry and bitter every time the husband did not do what she expected him to do or wanted him to do, rather than communicating with him and maturely explaining the situation. And the husband is just your typical man-child. Both the husband and wife seem to be impulsive and selfish and honestly if the woman wants a better man, she should be a better woman. So should the guy. The man just seems young and immature like a college/high school kid, and the woman seems to have a spiteful and bitter personality.
@@supposenot6790 i suprisely agree
@@ifeedonjinsdadjokes4135 why is her/his religion important again?
Stupid statement😑
They are both really hot tempered, immature and revengeful. They do not compromise or be considerate for each other, each just wanting their way and do not give in. I hope they can work it out and be better for each other because no matter what, they have a responsibility now.
Yeah being vengeful in that mean kind of way towards your partner never works out, even if you feel better you've just made your relationship worse
yeah and they look like somebody who wants to control others instead of try to understand each other, they are literally the same person.
linger368 yes. She isn't innocent in this either. They both are to blame and they go tit for tat. He mentioned that when they went on the trip he asked if she was safe for sex and she said yes which clearly isn't true since she got pregnant in 3 months. A baby is a huge responsibility so I don't blame the guy for feeling apprehensive. Maybe he intended on proposing,being engaged for a while, then get married, be married for a while then have a baby. But to go from just dating to married with a kid in less than a year is a huge change. Both need to re-examine their expectations for each other.
Right.
This is the most beautiful top comment here
사랑도 없고 부부간의 정도 없고 이미 깨진 쪽박임. 저렇게 평생을 살아야 한다는건 서로에게 불행이다. 빨리 정리하고 각자 갈 길 가세요.
결혼은 신중하게 이혼은 신속하게....
So many comments saying don’t spread your legs before marriage. But the main issue I see in a lot of these therapy couples is the fact that they got together because it was comfortable. They were finally in a relationship and rushed to marriage without fully getting to know if they were compatible with their partner. So many unhappy marriages that people are too scared to leave because it’s ingrained in their culture.
Actual Trash It's not the culture. It happened everywhere. It's more like nature.
Yeah but it could have been prevented if they didn't have sex
@@ms.chuisin7727 but in KR that part is really true. Ppl looks down on single mother (more if u r a divorced) but not men. Hate to say this but KR is a patriarchal country.
Moomoo it could’ve also been prevented with protection. I’ll be damned if I’m not going to satisfy my sexual appetite because I don’t want to be married. I’ve been having protected sex for 15 yrs & haven’t gotten pregnant.
yes
I like how the friends aren’t baised and genuinely believe that they both could do better even if it’s mostly the husband failing on the aspects of their marriage
Okay I hated the guy for saying to get rid of the baby BUT watching this makes me frustrated with the both of them, its pretty obvious that if they want to make this work, then both should do an effort to change. I hate how they act cause they’re parents now, it seems like they’re just counting each others mistake that it looks like a competition on who have a lesser mistake and such. I feel sorry for their kid, he has to see his parents like this. :(
They r both immature as of now..no side want to be a bit considerate..they do revenge instead of talking and letting things out. This is among the reason why couple's communication is extremely important in marriage.
honestly i dont think it was wrong of him to at least ask her if hse was willing to get an abortion. if he really didnt want a child, thats a perfectly reasonable thing to ask. in fact it probably would have been an overall better decision to get the pregnancy termiated instead of forcing the child to grow up with completely shitty parents who dont understand the first thing about their responsibilities
Super Junior's Super Juniors yes, I get your point BUT it could’ve been nice if he explained it to her and make it clear why he wanted an abortion cause that would’ve caused a huge scar on the girl’s emotional and mental aspect since it’s her whose experiencing the pregnancy which could’ve lead to depression or something worse than that.
I agree with this
@@tiyas5378 yes the child may be stuck in a shitty situation, but i don't agree that it would have been better to terminate the child. you can't predict the child's future.
To me it seems like they're playing who can make who look worse on national television.
Teri Dumas exactly
My bff, while dating her now husband, talked a lot about when they get married. They talked about how responsibility is split, how to manage their bills and whether they plan to have kids. They didn't jump right into the marriage just because everyone was getting married. Her other friend got married without talking about the finances.... that can cause a lot of friction as well as family plans.
This couple mainly got married because of the child
@@ikrameamallah3725 yup and they survived until they died. They said they still together because of child, but they show they unhappiness to their children.
Kimag I really hope one day in the future this will be me and my future husband bc this marriage contract is for a long time and even though there is love we must set rules and priorities first to be able to understand and trust one another and not jump into something we are not prepared for🤞🤞🤞
As a divorced person,i cudnt agree more.I dated the same for person for 8 5 yrs before gettin married.But marriage is somethin else.Took us 6 yrs to realise its not workin and another 1 yr to get divorce.lots of feelings and emotions wasted.Lot of time wasted.
@@sadia2395 if it is time that made u realise all this then i wont think of it as time wasted
19:57 You should never tell someone to lower their expectations or standards for someone else's comfort. Of course, you shouldn't divorce without trying to fix your marriage, and if you can, great...but if you can't, don't stay in a marriage that makes you unhappy.
I think she was telling her to be a little considerate of him
it's always so weird for me to watch everytime the guest mentions all his/her concerns to the hosts and they will just introduce the "culprit" as if there's nothing wrong and all smiles to the camera 😂
Maffy Cabanos it’s their job🤷♀️
I was thinking the same thing..funny tho...🤣
둘 다 매너와 예절없는 가정에서 자랐고,
서로가 너가 나한테 잘해라...
경험자로써 한마디하자면
내가 잘해야 상대방도변합니다
둘다 얼굴 외워놨다가 주변에 누가 만난다하면 뜯어말리면 될듯...
when u try to divorce on a tv show
I agree with her friend. Their relationship didn't seem like it was going very far to begin with, it was very casual. Given that their personalities clash, it would've ended if she hadn't gotten pregnant. I can understand both sides. Neither of them were ready for this to happen, especially the husband; it looks like he never wanted kids in the first place. The wife should definitely leave him and find someone better who would be willing to love to her and the baby. Although, that's unlikely, given the marriage culture in Korea.
I still want to know why he spent over £1000 on his ex-girlfriend
Edit:
All you guys down there complaining
I.do.not.care
Mystic-Juices it seems like those were old messages so he spent the money when they were dating but now won’t give his wife money
She is probably his true love.
that was when he was dating the ex gf not while he was with his now-wife
me too. but nobody seemed to care.
Yeah, that guy is shit. She deserves way better.
i learn a lot from this.. the artists give lot of good advise..'if he doesn't meet your expectations, lower it'.. hopefully this couple live happily now
Divorce…seriously. It‘s their best bet
I disagree
They’re in South Korea so it rlly isn’t lol
@@catherinesmith5793 idc where they are this could easily turn out worse than it already is if they don't divorce right now their personalities just clash all the time and when they clash like that it could affect the baby so it really shouldn't matter what society thinks in this moment this could turn into an abusive relationship
I feel sorry for the kid
@@rosecarmellegermain1223 true
사랑이 없는 두 사람 사이.....서로 불행하네.....
I am totally scared having a partner or boyfriend at the age of 22 years but I am more scared to get married. Can't imagine myself being in a relationship like this. This is so scary.
You can get divorced marriage isn't a prison sentence. If it's bad you can get out of it. My parents divorced when I was little and both moved on to better relationships. My mum remarried and had another child too. Most important thing is to not rush into getting married in the first place which is where my parents went wrong. Take time getting to know each other. Don't give up your independence either so that you can afford to stand on your own two feet should things turn bad and always maintain good communication as that's why many relationships fail.
Samara Gooch Some men cannot accept that and they kill the wife. Actually killing the wife might be better. There is news every now and then of men burns, throws acid at them and even chop off her hands and feets. Just becareful and don't be blinded by love when you see the warning sign. Also never help the man by making up excuses for them.
@@AramasG Nowadays, some of men has no balls. They can easily hurts their girlfriend, partner or wife even they ruined the family. Most on social media and news that I can see either killing your wife, your children and etc. That was so scary.
That sounds like my mom and her husband. They've been like this for 10 years. Everyone had told her to divorce. Even myself. She says she will be left with nothing if she divorces my stepdad because he works for a lawyer. She says as long as we ignore him in the house it's fine. I wanted them to divorce years ago because he was mentally and emotionally abusive to both of us.
Tal_Tal Kim the news about a men who threw acid at women not even husband and wife anymore, he threw it to his EX-wife. After that, he set his EX-parent in law's house in fire. His reason was because she ask for divorce, and he really holding grudge because of it.
Somehow rn, you cannot easily get divorce, people could going nut.
All we can do rn is to not rush a thing.
They both need to grow more. You can make a bad situation good if the two of them work hard at it. It's not the worse thing to happen when a couple is starting life together.
18:54 NOOOO that's such a dangerous logic!!! people get married for many reasons, you can't just say 'oh he married you, so he ~loves~ you and therefore everything he's done because of love. stop romanticising marriage like that. the action of marriage =/= love.
SparkzMxzXZ but if he didnt love her then he wouldn't have gotten married to her?? Like he wouldve just left her.
@@by_2mj oh honey.
She obviously meant that he loves her because he married her knowing what it implies and all the responsibilities he'll have to take. He sacrificed a lot. That's what makes her say that he loves her, not for the simple fact that he married her.
Specially with a country that is so full on about getting married off. He could have easily married you out of sense of obligation.
I knooooow her whole commentary was poopoo
Apart from this serious issue, how they edited and put music for kim jongmin reaction is so funny😬😂😂😂❤️❤️
Yes!!! It's happened when two kids got married, immature and revenge can happen when the couple not thinking about responsibility. Why got married if don't want give commitment???
They got married because they had to, not they wanted to. If she wasn't pregnant they might or might not be together today
@@gelaskopi89 Getting pregnant doesn't mean you have to get married. There are other options that may be more responsible than being trapped like in the situation now.
@@dooseobmey true that, but in Asia is most likely you "must" getting married because you getting pregnant
한마디로 즐기는건좋고 책임지기는싫고 뭔가 두사람삶이 무의미하다는...자식땜에 사는것밖에
This is the worst story i ever watched in hello counselor ... They don t really love or respect each other they had sex and now they r stuck that s all
Basically.
serves them right. the innocent child should be put on adoption while they attempt killing each other
진짜 동엽신 말대로 애랑 애가 결혼한거야.... 저거는 양쪽다 옆에서 누군가가 상대방을 배려하는 쪽으로 생각 할 수 있도록 유도 시켜줘야 조금씬 진전이 되지 그렇지 않으면 진짜 애만 불쌍한 상황이 벌어질 것 같다....
They are both childish to be honest...
well she learned a very hard lesson. you cant trap a man with pregnancy and expect for him to fall in love
Lawanduuhhh !! Hmmm idk i dont wanna say she trapped him.. it takes two to make a baby. But right now they have to take a step back with what they want for themselves. They have to give their baby a great deal of consideration. The wife wants allll the love and baby-ing in the world and the hubby is insensitive. They both need to grow up. It not about them anymore.
@@itsme-ih2cx And also the guy
Yeahh.. I'm looking for this comment.
They're not mature enough to have baby.
they should not married at first
My mom was married in young age. She had no happiness during her marriage, she spent her life to survive with a bad man. My father is not responsible, temperament and easy to underestimated my mom.
Many times I was being witness for their quarrel, There is no reason to stay with unmature man.
many stigmas in our socaity that , " Marriage is the final of your love, and survive in your relationship it mean you keep your love and your children! ".
No it's not ,if you meet with a bad guy leave him. Bcz Not only you but your children would feel a house like a hell, they might have traumatic or involve in toxic relationships bcz they could't find what a real love is.
Anyone else disagree when one of the girls told the wife that if your husband doesn’t meet your expectations, then you should just lower them?? Like wtf.
What can they do about it?? He is not a boyfriend but a husband...if they both can't satisfy their expectations for each other then why can't they just understand and adjust and be contented with what they have...this will make the marriage workout😊
@@Gayathri267 yeah but that doesn't mean if my husband is abusive or ain't treating me well i should adjust with it
I think she is saying like unrealistic expectations? Like she wants him to chase and look for her but then doesnt tell him where she is and also doesnt respond to him. They both have to lower their pride and ask for what they want from each other. When a person is constantly let down because they have too many and too high of an expectation, it doesnt matter if the other person is trying or improving because it will just look like disappointment from the other side. I dont think she meant like abusive or extreme cases?
Host: You can’t fake tears!
Husband: w a t c h me
Whenever I see concerns like this on this show, the husbands always seem so cold. I can’t help but feel like nothing will be resolved when they go back home
He probably claimed to get married so that he can sleep with her. 2 immature adults. Hope the child will grow up well.
The girl seems mature to me.
They're not good for each other.
Jong min reaction is the best 😂
That's what you call a shotgun marriage . They dated for 3 months and got pregnant they didn't have the time to see if they were good for each other , aspect that came out very soon . They married the wrong person . I can understand the guy a bit , I would be scared of having a baby so young , which I will have to rise even if I am not ready , financially or non . That said abortion is not my thing , but an unwanted child can ruin you especially if you don't change your view on things . Lastly she should be independent with money and not ask money to him always
Adelina it doesn’t sound like she depends on him for money; he tells her to pay with her own money. I think it’s more the principle, that it’s unfair she’s the only one paying for baby necessities.
이분들 근황은 분몀이혼햇을듯요.남펀분은
완전 맘이 떠낫네요.아내분은 사랑받고 싶어도
자격상실인듯
I couldn’t even finish it. This is a coupe that should not be together and definitely would have broken up within months if they had not gotten pregnant. They are obviously way too young and immature to handle being a married couple. It’s sad that societal pressures and ideals force people into marriages because of pregnancy. They can be parents without being together.
Lol, yea I agree with u. I fast forward the video. They got married because of a sense of responsibility without knowing each other well enough. They got married few months after they know each other. So it is not surprising they will still be in that arguing phase especially when there is more pressure and responsibility that they will have to take even after they got married and give birth to the baby.
The boy and girl at 3:14 are really couple goals 🤧🤧🤧🥰🥰🥰
I don’t know why the hate is being pushed on the husband when they wife acts just like him.
They always use stress, puberty and depression as reasons for their misbehaviour.
So don't make important decisions when you are stressed or depressed. Watch your words too when you are in such situations 😉
at first I was like "what a douchebag! leave him!". then i was like "damn she's a little too dramatic." then i was like "damn they should not be togetther." lol wishing the best for them especially because there's a little baby involved.
But seriously...three months...three months...is it enough to even get to know each other?🙄
Well maybe for some people. My parents knew each other for 3 months and they got married. Now they are married for 19 years turning this December.
Turning 20 this December*
@@toriella6238 Our parents used to live in different situation and used to have different expectations. They knew that marriage needs hard work and perseverance. Many youngsters nowadays just want romance and sex.
Marriage is like a party. You may have fun, but you also needs to prepare food and music. You also need to clean the place afterwards.
I see that the guy is getting more hate here, but the girl told him it's ok to have unprotected sex... that's also fucked. He probably thought she was on the pill. This is sad. They got married because of the stigma in Korea. I feel bad for both of them
I came to realise recently that marriage is not something that everyone can go through completely. You cannot imagine the effort you have to put into the marriage, how understanding and loving you have to try and even when you don’t want to be or can’t. Marriage is about pulling through together and not something you can just break between two people, it’s a real commitment and in need to communication. Though it may seem hard work, but it can be a really beautiful thing if two people really learn to love one another. Because I know and have seen the difficulties in marriage, I know I’m not ready/mature to just get married like that.
둘 다 똑같음.. 헤어지는게 답.
서로 양보하거나 변할려는 마음이 없음.
If they aren't meant to be then why force it obviously there ain't not love involved...?
She got pregnant and abortion is somewhat look down upon in some countries
@@esthercromwell3414 I don't agree with abortion
@@Brit15102 don't worry about it, I myself don't quite agree with abortion either. Still even if she didn't get abortion she still can put the child for an adoption.
esther cromwell You're telling a mother to put her child up for adoption? What's the difference from aborting?
blueraineee there are people who think that abortion=killing so if they don't want to care for the child why not give them a chance to find a loving parents rather than stuck with people who would constantly think that the child is a mistake. Just an opinion.
this is just a terrible marriage and it’s not just one sided they’re just awful together and it’s clear their personalities clash... I really hope they’re able to work it out though
I dont feel like he was a big jerk for asking the girl to Get an abortion. I think he grasped more of the situation than the girl. The girl was happy and told all her friends before She told the guy even though their relationship wasnt stable. If Thats What he was considering then Why shouldnt he ask it? Go around the Bushes instead?
tiffanie8000 I think she tell EVERYONE so that he can't bail.
Exactly !! its such a practical point of view. The argument of abortion being murder is beyond me. I dont know, too big an issue. But practically it makes sense , not to bring a life into the world that a person is incapable of being responsible for. Actually a person should do everything with in their grasp not to have babies before they are ready. It not fair all around. Its not fair to the grand parents who have to babysit , its not fair to the baby , its not fair to the spouse who doesnt want the baby in the first place. But its such a difficult situation to be in. I wish them well because i wouldn't know what to do either.
@@yasminabdu2569 I honestly don't understand why people make such a big deal when it comes to abortion and call the one who wants to get an abortion a murder or something like that. First of all, if someone chooses not to get an abortion then okay,good job, live your life how you want to, but there are also people who actually choose to get an abortion because of different circumstances and I think that people shouldn't go around and call them murderers because of this. Second of all, in the period when abortion is still available, there isn't even a human being formed inside of the organism, the "baby" it's just a couple of cells that haven't had any progression whatsoever and they can't be consudered a human being yet,so the one that gets an abortion doesn't "kill a baby" because there is no baby formed at that period
I agree. They had only been dating for 3 months, and he had recently left his job and was living on his father's goodwill. It is not unreasonable to consider abortion when you come up pregnant in those circumstances. I think he could have broached the subject more delicately, but considering it wasn't wrong.
this is a good and rational thought. i think shes being selfish and not caring on the opinion of the husband like he needs to agree on her of anything smh
Of all the episodes to have results in the hundreds, this one needed to be one of those!! There is a huge concern for them on so many fronts. I mean lack of trust, jealousy, lack of respect...they needed real counseling.
I think it's 40% her fault but 60% his fault. He might've been stressed about having a baby but he wasn't the pregnant one. He should've been more considerate of her when she was pregnant and just gave birth. She doesn't need to lower her expectations but needs to make sure her side of communication is clear and not be so insecure when he is out.
50% for both in my opinion. The wife is there to get sympathy and put all the blame to him, it is a mistake when she spilled her behaviour in checking her husband past messages and transaction then compared it to her life now smh.. they both hot tempered, immature, selfish and clearly put rings for the baby incident
It always amazes me how people don't take a morning after pill if they want to go raw. And I think the percentages are flipped. She seems to be the less mature and manipulative of the two. Having a baby didn't make sense economically and they weren't even far in to their relation. Abortion would have been the better option. But since we heard everything from her point of view we are bound to be slightly biased to her.
Arnimal Kaul Yeah, personally i oppose abortion. It is a baby accident for them so they should take responsibility for their mistake, raise or at least support the baby financially. Eventhough they're still immature parents that will lead them getting into quarrel a lot, i hope this program can make them realize the best solution for them. Poor baby
志瑜杨 the husband was an ass but i think it’s more the wife’s fault. He clearly was reluctant to have a child in the first place, she should have raised it separately
He doesn’t love her...
Bruh no wonder
If u were forced to marry her because of her child ofc u would feel trapped
@@mintstudent9442 They should have at least used protection
I think hello counsellor should just stop trying to save marriages that clearly aren't working. Just say 'yeah I think you two need a divorce bye' these two cave spend another week together they're not compatible at all ://
Wth did I just watch?! The guy even threatened to crash his car when she wanted out of it and these people are encouraging them to stay together? Good grief.
when you tell a woman to get an abortion that is worse than hitting them and cursing at them. I have been there. At 17 years old I was getting ready to give birth to my first born and only son and his father told me to get an abortion. I had to explain to him that it was to late. I only had a month to go before my son was born. After that I stressed out every day that he was going to find away to get rid of my son. because of that stress I gave birth 2 weeks early. I was in the hospital over christmas/winter break. I was alone even though he would come and visit (for about 5 minutes) every day. My family would not even drive to visit me (my mother was in prison for arson and attempted murder), grandma Ruth lived to far away and my aunts really did not like me at the time. My foster parents had other children to worry about. By the way I was in the labor and delivery room most of the day and night by myself. If I remember right I gave birth with no one there with me. The father came afterwards and even named our son. After I turned 18 years old I married his father and had 2 girls 2 years apart from each other. After 8 years of marriage I was done being an physical and verbal punching bag for him. Sometimes you just have to leave for your own safety.
Wow...u r a hero
I'm sorry you had to go through that.. Yeah sometimes you have to leave..
Im so sorry for that Jean, youre a strong woman
Jan-Michele P-R aw babe, im so sorry all that happened to you. you have to know that you are so strong and you’ll get a happy ending :)
U are such an inspiration. Thank you for being strong. I hope you wont give up and try ur bestt to raise ur kids
Like Kristoff said *"How can u fall in love to a person u've just met that day?"*
at least you’re with somebody you love... one advice from me is: cherish every moment with them and be grateful🙏
The fact I love about this show is that they don't try to stress too much on the problem as they realise it will create more trouble for the parties involved rather they concentrate on solving the problem and giving good advice to create more peace. That is why they are Counselor! Hello Counselor.
Well they haven’t been doing a good job
IF YOU'RE NOT READY TO BE A FATHER! WAIT FOR MARRIAGE TO MAKE LOVE.
Totally agree
Or protection lol
summer a It’s not reliable
@@leavemelonely1264 but it enables people who want to pleasure each other to do so. It's not 100% reliable but it works in most cases
@@leavemelonely1264 still better than nothing
둘이 잘만났다...천생연분
Listening to this concern is equivalent to watching a tennis match. These two keep going back and forth.
책임도 못질거면 애초에 피임을 왜 안함? 남자 정신이상있는거 아님?
My sister is going through a similar dilemma and I feel like making her and the husband look at this for the great advise those ladies gave.
Yoooo these Korean shows crack me up. First of all the put sound effects and other little noises and pictures up every few seconds at the most serious of times. I saw one where the girl was talking about feeling suicidal and they still have the funny noises. And then the sad music when the lady started crying? Man these are hilarious 😂
this marriage has no hope
그러게 콘돔 썻어야지
둘 다 똑같아
애초 잘못은 둘다!
남자쪽에서는 분명 애 지우자고 했는데 육아를 혼자서 감당 못할거면 왜 낳은건지
낳기만하면 남자가 잘할거라 생각한건가
본인 인생 본인이 망쳐놓고 우는거 진짜 이해안돼
누구 한명 잘한것 없이 공평하게 똑같다
아이만이 최대의 피해자
제정신으로 답글을 단건지... 애지우는게 무슨 손씻는것처럼 쉬운일인듯 말하는..
Why did shin dongyeob look less excited? Is he sick?
I notice that too
He's sick he said it in the beginning
he’s having sore throat too
다행이다 애가 애를 만나서~.~
둘이 똑같다
3개월 만나고 결혼한게 무리수. .
I couldn t focus on the story i just find something weird about her eyes
ikram kami it's just plastic surgery hahah
No i think see might be cross eyed she might wear glasses....
Eye surgery and circle lens
Bea Waweru haha me too
SAME
이런 상황에서 구지 애를 낳아야 하는건 뭔지...잘 알지도 못한 사람하고 3개월 연애하고 덜컥 임신하고 또 애 놓고 불행할거 뻔히 알면서....자기 자촉 한것임. 애를 지우는게 맞았음.
I want to slap both the man and the woman lol. The man is such a jerk and the woman is just as wicked. She is one of those woman who play sympathy game in front of others and people can never tell how wicked she is with her temper and sided her like she is a saint and the man will get all the blame. They should just get divorce.
She just play her role as a victim
@@apriliam7414 i hope people can see that too, so frustrating
the fact that he spend $1,200 on his ex and couldn't give his wife $50 really bothers me
Jongmin is always so clueless lol, it’s funny to see his reactions
6:40 PLEASE THIS WHOLE CONVO WAS TOO MUCH, I COULDN’T HANDLE HOW AWKWARD IT WAS
Can we have a petition for these kind of people not to breed? I'm so done with guys using a lot of excuses not to help raise their own baby. That'll save a lot of innocent lives. They can't be brought up in the broken families either. A lot of guys act so dense when their girlfriend or wife told them they're pregnant. When you're doing that, you should keep in mind that a pregnancy could happen even when she told you it's a safe time. Wrap your tiny buddy in it's special cloth even after your partner took the birth control. Or not to release it in her. Better be safe for both. You like raw so you should've known the implications of your action. It's prone to happen at times.
Or somebody should come up with an agreement that needed to be signed countless time, every single time they're making love for both side to be equally and actively involved in the kids life. If they can't, castrate both. Easy. Some other people tried hard to have babies but the one that got it way easily are throwing the opportunities away right of the bat. Correct me if I'm wrong.
My dad always says there should be test everyone who wants to reproduce should have to take because "some people just shouldn't breed" and I'm beginning to think he has a point.
Every country should made it possible. If they can't love kids, they shouldn't get one. Take any precautions so no poor babies is brought into this world and treated cruelly.
I know that your reply is all serious but when i read "you like raw" i died of laughter 😂
I'm a walking humor so it's always inserted in my messages. 😂😂😂
Glad you had a laugh out of that!
Oh, look, another man hating feminist who doesn't even know that women can use birth control too and refuses to acknowledge that women should take any responsibility for their own actions.
this is my 1st time seeing here that both the parties are equally responsible for it,,,normally in this platform mostly the complainer is getting torchured the most
Jongmin is so pure and precious
Leave him asap, men like him never change.
She babytrapped him
13:18 *attention to these couple shirts*
trash ambkansol lol 😆
They are a newly wed couple with full of pride, they really need to work their relationship cause its obvious that they love each other.
P.s. I cried when the husband cry omg,
Use protection people!! Don't make a baby if you don't want to take care of one!! This is exactly what would happen if your one night stand bears fruit 😤😤😤
신동엽 옷에 1818 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
고민들어주다 욱하면 티 한번 보면서 마음 다잡기 좋겠구만...
I think the crux of their problem comes down to the fact that they just haven't known each other for very long. I agree with Byul here, they each need to drop whatever preconceived ideas they had about what a wife or a husband is supposed to be and meet each other where they're at then move forward from there. I think there's a way through their problems, but it will take a lot of patience, commitment, and communication. It seems neither is really willing to put that effort in though, so it could go either way. But it seems a bit early simply to give up on the marriage, especially when they haven't really tried to make it work.
Finally!!! Someone who has a high EQ in the comments section. Thank you. =]
@@allanallipin5013 it's IQ
This was such an intelligent reply! Too many comments here were way fatalistic and absolute and human relationships are never black and white, that’s what makes them so complex and beautiful and tragic. Hope these two somehow make it through and serve as inspiration that relationships take hard work to plow through the seemingly impossible.
No. There's no inherent value in keeping a marriage. Why stay together when they can find someone they're more compatible with? It's like eating a rotten fruit when there are thousands of fresh ones around you. "If you eat pills and drink lots of water, you won't die from the rotten fruit". NO! Just throw that fruit away and get another one!
@@wehavebiscuits any relationship has problems if you quit as soon as its hard you'll never be with anyone long term
When a guy is not ready and you force his hand, he becomes uncooperative and unsupportive. He alr said he didn't want the baby. If she wanted to keep the baby, she should've gone on by herself.
I thought the same. He resents her for clearly not respecting his wishes and that has carried on into their rushed marriage. Clearly he has nothing against the kid. I think more than the man, the woman is the less understanding one in this situation.
Arnimal Kaul you guys sound so selfish
Abortion is not like a walk in the park the way you guys think it is,it affects you for all your life and not everyone is comfortable with the idea of terminating pregnancy only there is a risk factor involved like the likelihood of death.
And she didn’t force his hand,if he wasn’t ready to be a father then he shouldn’t have had sex with her in the first place
Or at least made sure that he used protection so that it wouldn’t happened,because surprisingly enough protection isn’t only the woman responsibility
@@odinelsamendes4596 The husband wasn't only one who had sex....they both had sex together hence both are responsible
I know abortion is not an easy step to take coz it may affect u mentally also, but she is not happy with her life now too...both of them are miserable ....their personalities really clash with each other.....moreover the one who suffers the most will be their child
Both are at fault here! He needs someone who is kind and loving, and she needs a gentleman who cares for her and takes responsibility.
I really like the woman in the blue shirt she gave good advice and heard both sides she also listened to both sides before advising and critizing one she seems like a mature woman
If abortion is said to be illegal in South Korea, then why did the husband ask his wife to get an abortion?? I really sympathise with the wife.
They're hypocrites. They made abortion illegal to make their country look morally upright, but there are still over 300,000 abortions there every year. Just like how their government made porn illegal, but everyone still watches it, they made prostitution illegal to make themselves look good, but the majority of Korean men use prostitutes and there are brothels open everywhere. The police just turn a blind eye to it. Unfortunately it's all about appearances there, not how things actually are.
H. L. Yeah true. South Korea have high rate for abortion case. I just don't understand why they don't do precautions while doing sex.
H. L. i've noticed this as well. There are a lot of contradictions when it comes to Korean law and social norms. Not to say America is perfect either (we definitely aren't), but it's like Korea is a nation that normalizes pre-marital sex while simultaneously demonizing it. As you said, porn is technically illegal but it doesn't stop anyone from watching it. And people fuss over whether their significant other has had a lot of "experience" or not as if it were a bad thing, but then there are a huge number of 'love motels' (aka a place specifically for people who need a place to have sex).
Just because it's illegal doesn't mean people won't do it.
@@dayang8983 precautions can fail
Marriage is not a easy. You have to embrace each others flaws, build each others weaknesses and encourage each others strengths. Marry when you are ready enough to accept that there are more problems to face than happinesses to share. My mom's comment hehehe
correct!
I actually agree with the panel this time in the episode saying that they can make the marriage work. I don't think that she was a rebound or anything and I believe that he actually does like her and she likes him, just that all the frustration and miscommunication has piled up and they both don't realize that they're in this together. It's odd to think for some people I know but sometimes people make the wrong decision when they have so much anger in them towards a person (like when he didn't help when her pelvic bone was dislocated), but it also doesn't make it right. I hope they move past the mistakes and realize that they're in the same team and not on opposite ends.
예전에 외할머니께서 하셨던 말...
'성격이 팔자다~'
부부가 누구 원망 할 것도 없어 보인다.
자기들이 한 행동,성격의 결과다.
명언이네요~~
this is like a children's fight (except its not cute)... they have the same temper and attitude. both of them are in the wrong and they won't admit or LEARN from their mistake.
they need more time to get to know each other. I wish the kid well.
I actually agree with the program, they can be happy, he is trying, the pregnancy time is hard for everyone and of course they were gonna fight a lot, but putting love to the situation can fix it, they are a family now, he stay the whole time and even got emotional talking about their baby, they need time, love and patience and they're gonna be really happy with their new cute baby. Best of luck for they, they are gonna grow up together, it's sweet actually.