2016 Porsche Cayman GT4 First Drive Owner's Review driveopolis
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- This is the video you've all been asking for! Here is a first drive review of my 2016 Porsche Cayman GT4. I compare it to the 997 GT3 as well as the 991 GT3. Lots more GT4 content to come so here's something to whet your appetite!
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You talk/explain things very well and keep the listener intrigued throughout - Very well done video Sir !!
+guitarist6494 Thank you! And amazing guitar solos!!!
+guitarist6494 Agreed.
Hey Chris! I use a mixture of roads you can find on this site here: members.shaw.ca/bjs1/interesting_roads_main.htm
I may be alone on this but I find the GT4 better looking that the GT3.
+fl33tbrand Thanks for your comment! I think for looks, I'm still on the wide-hip GT3 camp, but given that it's still a no-show as yet for the manual, my heart is currently with the GT4. :)
I agree completely
driveopolis since you've had both, which would you take as the better car? 997 gt3 or cayman gt4?
Me too.. like i get it that the gt3 is more powerfull... But gt4 is a different beauty that gt3 dsnt have
I love the way you spec'd this gt4. I wouldn't change a thing. A co worker of mine is a PCA member, he was contemplating the GT4 but instead took his 2006 Cayman S and had a shop punch it out to a 3.8 and then added a TPC turbo kit. Its a monster Cayman of a different kind. Anyways, congrats on the car, I like seeing good people like yourself doing well.
Thank you for your kind comment! Your buddy's Cayman sounds like an absolute monster.
Absolutely love your videos! Great to see a fellow Vancouverite on TH-cam! You are truly an asset to all the car enthusiasts in Vancouver!
+erikvive Thank you very much, erik! Much appreciated.
Excellent review from a very intelligent guy who has covered every detail....
+clarky clarky Thank you clarky. Appreciate your support as always!
Great articulation using subjective opinions. Very honest non biased. You know your material. Keep them coming. Thank you for sharing.
Thank you so much for your detailed comment. Much appreciated!
Good review! I am also lucky enough to be getting a GT4 in the next month here in Ontario. I was torn between Carmine Red and Sapphire Blue ( PTS was no longer available as I wanted Voodoo Blue.) I went with red stitching and carbon fiber trim and leather steering wheel with shifter and full buckets...great comment on seating position by the way. Curious as to the recommended break-in schedule. Just subscribed to your channel and looking forward to more videos.
+Three Pedal Rebel Really great spec on your car. Yes, PTS voodoo would be absolutely amazing but SBM is a great choice as well. Your message appears to have been cut off. Didn't see the rest of your question?
Well constructed review. Well done and better than most. Hope you keep doing this.
+Tim Archer Thank you very much, Tim. With comments like yours, I will!
Congrats on the new car! My cousin just bought one as well. Will be doing a video of it soon! Such a cool car. Awesome video as well. I will never understand why awesome content and a Chanel like this don't have more subs
+KyleSVT Thanks Kyle! I could say the same about yours! :)
+driveopolis well thank you! :)
Please don't stop doing car review. You did an amazing job
Thank you so much SingYing! Audiences like you encourage me to keep doing this stuff.
your points of view toward cars are great, i don't see a lot reviewer with that good sense.
Love this reviewer. Only have seen him one other time on a Bimmerpost video of the new M2. He's one of the best to listen to along with Chris Harris, Matt Farah, Jethro Bovingdon among others. Bravo.
+Tom Broome Thank you very much Tom for your kind words. That's high praise indeed!
I got to ride in one on the race track 8 hot laps. I never new a car can grip so well,it was scary. Love the car hope you have lots of fun with it.
+Scorpion7substance Thanks buddy. It does have a phenomenal level of grip and stickiness. Nice mustang!
I just stumbled upon this video and really enjoyed watching it! Congratulations with your GT4, absolutely amazing car. Looking forward to seeing more content :)
+Julien Van de velde Thank you Julien!
Great initial impressions Sam. I really enjoyed your M2 review for Bimmerpost and cannot wait to take delivery of mine! Enjoy that GT4 in good health!!
+Cale Thompson Congrats Cale! Let me know when you get yours soon!
Another top review. I cant believe that I have missed this channel for so long. Keep up the good work dude. Amazing colour.
Man, just a top top review. You are such an enthusiast. I love it :)
You're my favourite commenter today! :)
Nice impressions - two of these gorgeous machines at Barber hpde event this weekend - and one gent had made the same change as you. R u going to PCA event at MOSPORT in july?
+Damon Spencer Hi Damon, Mosport is a bit far for me as I'm on the west coast. Here we have The Ridge, Pacific, Portland, and the smaller local Mission track. Getting some additional circuits this year though by way of Area 27 and Vancouver Island Motorsports facility. I've been to Mosport before and it's a great circuit!
Great first review! Leaves us craving a full on review. I was wondering what break in process are you following?
+Baby_Goat Pretty much according to the manual but you might find the following post on Rennlist helpful for a different take on the factory break in:
rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-gt3rs-and-911r/895835-rennsport-v-report-let-s-start-with-the-talk-of-andreas-preuninger.html#post12625613
stumbled upon your review while browsing videos. Great review. You're a good communicator. Subscribed!
+oleskoollover Thank you very kindly!
You deserve much more subscribers, and I also miss the road you took up to cypress as well!!
+Bob Tsui Thank you so much Bob!
Awesome review and sweet choice on the Carmine red! How did you get the red door pulls without the deviated stitch option? Clear corners soon? ;)
+AlphaMotorsportsCa Thanks! Just subbed you too. Love the E92 M3 exhaust. Anyway, the red door pulls were retrofitted. And yes, clear corners are indeed needed soon!
Awesome video man! Always love your commentary, so well-spoken
+Jordan Payne Thanks for your continued enthusiasm and support, Jordan! Much appreciated.
watching this video made me jealous i wish their was roads like those in are near New York, i love driving and i recently bought one of my dream cars and i cant really enjoy the way i want to because their aren't that many good back road in new york and with the few i found they arent long enough to give you that feeling or level of excitement. loved the videos
But, you get to live in New York! I think it's a small compromise.
i guess you right
Thank you, great video. Considering a GT4 in the near future...tempting...very tempting..
4500 miles into my Carmine Red GT4---love it. Felt the same way about guards red (I don't like orange reds). I was also worried about the seat belts and brakes (since they are technically guards) clashing with the carmine but they don't. After break-in you'll realize the engine gets a little manic around 5800 rpm; not GT3 manic but things start happening faster.
+Scott McCann Hi Scott! Great to talk to a fellow carmine GT4 owner. Good to hear the engine screams and picks up, I can't wait to explore its upper registers.
Subscribed. Seriously you've owned (and tested) some of the most iconic and truly driver's cars from a such a diverse range in terms of pricing and brands, from the Miata to the 911.
Fun factor sometimes gets overlooked by sheer performance numbers and styling. I would die to know your ranking on what car you thought was your most FUN TO DRIVE after ownership. With your experience, I think it would so valuable to hear your input.
+Brian C Hi Brian, thank you for the subscription! That's a really tough and loaded question to answer. I would rather not be forced to give a ranking but how about I give you my top five? Best driver's cars in recent memory, in no particular order. ND Miata. M2. Cayman GT4. Shelby GT350 (review will be out next week). E46 M3. There are others but those just came to mind and in recent memory.
Love the video! Great review. Disagree with your opinion of Guards Red however (but that's because I own a Guards Red Cayman - which I love!).
Excellent presentation.
+x3g Haha, I respect that. Glad you enjoyed the video otherwise. :)
Anyone else's dream car?
Nice car but nahh...
I know you just received the car and are still in the break in period but how do you feel about the long gearing? Does it make it any less fun for you to drive around the mountains..etc? (Sorry if I may have missed it in the video). Thanks and I hope you'll be posting more content! I found you through your M2 review and you put out some quality stuff. Cheers.
+The3Natural Thanks for your kind comment and great question. The gearing has not bothered me one bit in the city, on the highway, or on medium and high speed twisties. The only time I've noticed it was during some very tight twisties with no real straights. In those situations I was basically stuck in 2nd gear only. Upshifting to 3rd feels too tall and 2nd gear is all you use so you lose a bit of the rhythm of shifting up and down between turns. However, it's important to remember that the 997 GT3 I used to have was geared almost the exact same way and the old NSXs used to be geared very tall too. People didn't make such a big deal out of gearing until recently! Perhaps it's because with PDKs and lots of driving gears, manufacturers are now able to offer lower and tighter ratios with the expectation that the computer is doing all the shifting. I think the tall gearing complaints are valid but a little overblown.
Subscribed!! Great review brotha, keep the videos coming !
Eric, many thanks for the sub. You keep me motivated.
Great video. How does it compare to the M2 and Cayman GTS? Is the GTS more supple on the road?
+Neil Boiling Thanks Neil. The GTS is indeed noticeably more supple on the road. Quite a noticeable difference.
+driveopolis Thanks for information. It would be great to see you compare the Cayman and 991 GTS models back to back
Welcome to the GT4 club @driveopolis. Glad you enjoy it!
+JakeXSV Thank you Jake!!
Hey man! Love the review.... Curious how tall you are? Not trying to hit on you, my wife is curious how well she will fit in the buckets! Are you comfortable?
+UnknownTheProducer Haha! I'm around 5'6 and very comfortable in the buckets. Just did a full track day followed by a 5 hour drive home. No biggie. Every bit as comfortable as I would be in a normal sport seat if not even more so. They sit deep and are extremely supportive. The best and my most favorite option on any car I've owned. It's a must. Ingress and egress is more tricky if you want to preserve your side bolsters from wear. Maybe I should do a video showing people how to correctly get in and out.
Perfectly speced out..Love Carmine Red sooo much!
+Kevin Powers Thank you Kevin!
Great job. This is my dream car. I have a Cayman but this GT4 is fab. Enjoy 😊 😊 thanks for the ride 👍👍
Thanks! The cayman is an awesome platform. Hope you're enjoying your car!
How does it compare to the 981 GTS? Is the steering feel different, throttle response, and sound? What would be a better daily?
Hi Sam, how much did you pay for fully wrapping the GT4? Thanks.
So depressing watching this I wanted this car so bad, due to credit factors the bank told me no even though I could afford it. However, I am very satisfied with my S4 purchase. Good luck and enjoy the ride man
Thanks Damian! The S4 is no slouch, you should still be very happy! I love the S4!
I love the color
+Ramo Thanks Ramo!
You'd make a great automotive reviewer for the big channels!!
+Ashton Murch Thanks for your kind words, Ashton!
Did you have the car wrapped pre delivery through your dealership or was this done afterwards and was the wrap hand formed or machine cut intalled?
+Mark Simonetti Hi mark! It was done right after delivery at +ProtexvancouverCanada
I went for mostly pre-cut pieces with some custom pieces like the hood and front fender. They did a really good job and makes driving such a high maintenace color easier to take care of!
What are your thoughts about long gearing on the GT4? Also, how would you compare the engines in GT4 and 997 GT3? The sound, the responsiveness?
+steaksaretasty Great questions. The long gearing 'problem' is there but I think it is blown a bit out of proportion considering that the 997.1 GT3 (non-RS), my old car, had the exact same gearing. Also, older sportscars all had tall gearing like the original NSX. Nobody really complained about that stuff back then! The only time the gearing has bothered me is on very tight, very low speed windy roads like you would find in the Napa Valley. In those situations you wouldn't gear down to 1st out of mechanical sympathy, and gearing up to 3rd does not feel revvy enough. So you drive these tight twisty roads entirely in 2nd gear and you can't even rev out 2nd because it's so tall and the roads are so tight. A lower final drive would be nice, but really it seems to be the only complaint anyone has with this car. I had to admit that the GT4 is actually louder and angrier sounding stock, which is great, but does lack some of the specialness of the old 997 GT3's mezger engine. That engine had more character, more change in pitch as you wound it to redline and had more of a busy motorsports feel. So that is one thing that I still miss about my 997, in addition to the hydraulic steering which is still a shade better.
I too, prefer Carmine red. Gaurds is great looking too but almost looks like a red car that sat in the sun for a decade. Anyways, great informative reviews as always. 2 years later haha.
I know right! But recently I think the composition of Guards Red has changed. The more recent Guards Reds appear more red and less faded orange. I think I am taking more of a liking to guards now, especially when Carmine has become such a needlessly expensive option.
When did u order your car? Are they doing orders again? I know there wasn't a set limit on the production. Is it a kinda thing like if your dealer can get you one or not?
+Aaron Sundve Ordering one of these is tricky. The build is only through 2016 and the production numbers are indeed limited. I think the best way really is to keep calling around. Some dealers still have cars out there.
Just came across your vid..
Great work!
Great Channel!
Love the Carmine Red. Can't wait to see more of GT4 and even greater moving shots and in-depth review!
+PB Jelly Thanks Jerry! Maybe we can do some shoots in California this summer?
+driveopolis I am up for it.
Hope you get a chance to get out to area 27 and the new track on vancouver island, and do a review of these tracks.
Thank you for this video. Cheers from an east-coast Canadian.
+david dykeman Thank you David!
Love it! Has me thinking about one since the GT3 market is a little insane at the moment.
+Craig Sudhoff Definitely worth your consideration! I'm having a lot of fun in this car. GT3 is unbeatable for performance, but this is unbeatable for fun.
Congrats on the purchase!!!
+Josh Tanaka Thank you Josh!
You should check out the recent Topgear article on the GT4...yet another top pick for the year!😃
+Three Pedal Rebel I saw that! Thanks for the head's up. Getting lots of good press, this GT4.
Just found your channel, subscribed!! hope you're still enjoying your GT4!
I am! And thank you very much for the sub!
I think that’s the perfect red for a sports car. I hate reds that are too dark and deep. And regular flat red isn’t as beautiful as this red.
Yeah! Still my favorite red by far. Thanks for your comment!
Beautiful,congratulations man
If I’m a newbie to drive a Porsche , should I go direct up to Porsche 911 or Cayman S is enough for a starter like me. Pls advice
Hi Alfred, I would just go to the 911 because you'll end up there eventually.
Hi there. Say someone has a LSB E46 M3 and a FK8 Type R. Both you can’t part with. Now looking for a really special car. Go for 997.1 GT3 or GT4? What kind of price am I looking at with those buckets?
Outstanding review!
I Loooooove Porsche but you make me like it more. very informative! thanks dude!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you.
Welcome!
What mountain roads are you driving on during the video? I live in Vancouver and I can't seem to find any good twisties...
+Mathias Petersen Hi Mathias, have you checked out the following site? This is the best place to find good local drives. members.shaw.ca/bjs1/interesting_roads_main.htm
+driveopolis Awesome! Thank you!
I wonder how much one should make ,in regards to annual salary in the U.S., to be able to comfortably afford a new Porsche GT4 (insurance, maintenance, MSRP etc.).
Great job Sam...keep up!
I just love the sound
Yeah, the sound was pretty sweet! But the GT3 sounds better still.
Great review man. Beautiful colour too.
+Andrew M Thank you Andrew!
You live in Vancouver? Where was your drive. Nice review.
+James Suttie Hi James. Yes, I'm from Vancouver. Check out the following site for some nice driving roads! members.shaw.ca/bjs1/interesting_roads_main.htm
Any recommendations on good driving roads around Vancouver? Seems like you film a lot in West Van.
+sumomo01 To be honest there aren't many good roads by the city. Have you looked at the following site:
members.shaw.ca/bjs1/interesting_roads_main.htm
These are the best driving recommendations for half day and day trips outside Vancouver.
u own the sickest rides. i wanna get this gt4
+Jitsslo Productions Thanks man! I just watched your RSV4 video. It is awesome!
Wow... great content and video work. Also you are a natural in front of the camera... maybe its aligned with your line of work? You got a new subscriber and surprised I just found your channel.
+xkrnxboix Thank you kindly! And looks like you're having lots of fun with your A4 quattro!
+driveopolis Thanks for taking time to check out my video. I see that you guys also have a B6 A4 for video/hauling. I never realized how beautiful Vancouver is... I will need to visit in the future. Can't wait for your next video on your GT4!
You're GT4 is so nicely specced, damn!
+CoDMW2freakNL Thanks for the appreciation! It was the minimal spec that I could tighten it down to, but has the essentials of what I want.Thanks again.
Nice video, congratulations.
It is kinda sad to see even "pro drivers" brands throwing automatic gearboxes into each car, even for enthusiasts who are mainly looking for manual these days and i am pretty sure it will become even bigger trend in near future. In these kind of cars manual should be ALWAYS the option (if not cheaper base variant).
+maXXik1337 Totally agreed! Let's see how long we get manuals for. I suspect another two generations before they're all gone for good.
oh man, finally get your video bro. even after 718 started production...
+CampingShadowComplex Yes, it took some time... but it's here and there will be more coming. :) Check out the track ones I posted if you haven't already!
Just subscribed, great video of a great car.
+Chris Raczynski Thank you Chris!
cool video. Filmed going up cypress mountain? lol
you mention breaking it in; am i wrong in understanding that Porsche does this at the factory?
The engines are supposedly bench broken in. I don't know whether they still drive them on a track before they leave the factory. The manual does state a break in procedure. I don't think it's as big of a deal as it once might have been.
Thanks for the information!
I bet a simple intake kit would make your car scream a lot more like the GT3.
No no any more, that used to be the case back in the day
Very nice review. Thanks.
+brian glendenning Thank you, Brian!
I'm definitely going to subscribe to your channel.. Great review
Thank you, Daniel!
What is your take on commute driving harsh in traffic ? What would you say as DD
Perfectly acceptable as a DD. Not harsh at all! The days of the hardcore, harsh and bumpy cars are long over. From any brand, really.
As a Police driver I can tell you £ for £ the GT4 is the best value drivers car around. End of.
Love the color. Paint to sample right?
+Christian Roche Carmine red, not PTS
+trdartz yup, trdartz is right. Not quite paint to sample but it is an additional cost color same as GT Silver.
first time ever watching your reviews. From Vancouver as well. Great job man.. Very nice car... a dream car for me. subbed
Thanks man!
+Christian Roche Carmine is a very nice red but it is on the standard palette of color options, not anything like PTS (paint to sample).
really good reviews well explained
Thanks Barry!
Since the new 911 GT3 will have a manual transmission option, are you planning on trading in your GT4 for the new 991.2 GT3??
Hi Doug! It has been done... the video is still a work in progress. I will post something soon.
fantastic car and a great color.
+K Dog Thank you sir!
You are welcome. Enjoy!
Congrats!
+vyso Thanks buddy! Is that your GT3 in the avatar?
Why does your GT4 not have the porsche label at the rear? Is it a custom thing?
I took it off! I didn't like how cluttered the rear lettering + model designation was. When I did the rear bumper wrap I had my installer remove the factory lettering and print out the old school model-designation-only decal.
Beautiful car and well done presentation! Always admired Porsche :))
+Marco Vanni Thank you, Marco! Nice profile pic of your AMG. ;)
driveopolis Thanks Bro! Let's Race ;) The 991Turbo S is my dream Beast :))
+Marco Vanni Haha! I know better than to race an AMG. Those are monsters! ;) Yes, the 991 Turbo S is kind of like a Porsche AMG, isn't it? Super fast, super refined, luxurious and relatively understated.
driveopolis I will ask Santa this year for a Turbo S haha :)) Your GT4 looks very close to it! Happy driving :)) Ciao
Love the shots of Vancouver etc. Lions Bay is "home" where I grew up and the folks still reside. I think you might be familiar with it??? ;) I did a lot of learning on the old two lane 99 back in the day..... I can honestly say, I never met anyone who could keep up with me. Particularly when it came to sport bikes. Have fun out there. Awesome car. Maybe when I'm out there later this summer with my 2013 Viper GTS we can see how they match up ;)
+Lee Douglas Hi Lee, yes, Lions Bay is a very scenic place. Although the highway is a little different now compared to the two laner it used to be. A drive together would be fun... could I interest you in our next track day? :) I do it with The Speed Syndicate / Revscene. You'll definitely put the Viper through a good workout there. It's a mean ride!
You're right, the new hwy is not as good as the old one in some ways, but better in others. Twisty turns are gone, but the surface is more consistent now, and you won't get stuck behind anyone, which is great given the increased volume of traffic. I honestly can't believe how much traffic there is compared to the "good 'ol days." Now we have people going through the Bay 24/7. You definitely could interest me in a track day!!! The only problem is, I'm a lawyer who resides in Saskatchewan now, so I'm not in the Lower Mainland nearly as much as I'd like. I had to leave Vancouver to afford a home and toys :(New Formula Red S2000 + WRB WRX STi '08 Hatch + Gen V Viper GTS). I'm flying out to Vancouver/Lions Bay for the Victoria Day long weekend to visit the folks, but I might plan a road trip with the Viper for July. My e-mail is flyboy999.ld@gmail.com Shoot me an e-mail and perhaps we can coordinate a meet later this summer?? You might even want to take it for a spin and do a review? I've subscribed to your channel, so I look forward to seeing more of your videos. Cheers. Lee.
Lee Douglas
Thanks Lee. Those sound like amazing toys! The S2000 is beautiful and quite rare in red. Sure, let's touch base later on. I've taken down your email. Cheers!
Yeah, I'm a real "petrol head" ;) They are great toys. I count my blessings daily. The red ones are really rare for sure. I've booked off June 30th to July 6th just in case. Absolutely touch base with me. Feel free to check out my Facebook page, which has all three cars in my driveway here in SK, and shoot me a friend request if you're so inclined. Cheers.
Did you change out the rear badging for a sticker? How come?
+Bard Man Hi Bard! You have a sharp eye. I did remove the lettering for a sticker. For one, I had the entire car wrapped in Xpel film including the rear bumper. I wanted a seamless film install without a lettering cutout on the film. Secondly, I think the lettering looks way too busy on the Cayman GT4 tail. I opted to go old school and have only the model designation on it, just like all previous Porsche GT cars, 997 and earlier 911s, and even the current GT3RS!
Is the headrest adjustable to allow room for a helmet(back of head to headrest space)?
Nope.
+cabfoot No, not adjustable. On the US/Canadian vehicles there is an additional piece of triangular padding that can be removed. This should free up a little bit of space for the helmets. On Euro seats, this piece of padding is absent.
bloody proper paint color
Bloody proper is right! Thank you.
I'm glad you shared the experience with us. However, instead of waxing poetic (precise, sharp, dynamic, heavy, firm, hard, etc etc) can you actually use technical terms so we know how to compare them to the other pcars? Springs are XXX rate and adjustable with helper spring at XXX rate which allows XXX compared to the 997.1 GT3/991 GT3 etc. Adjustable XXX compared to the 997.1 GT3. And features it has that the others dont' You call it advanced but don't say why besides using superlatives. It's, for lack of a better word, shallow. So, thanks for sharing but let's beef up the content with information.
+nwGTS Interesting feedback and thank you. Will mull this over.
+kingsmeadow ha. Touché. No I don't want that, but telling us it's 'great' and 'dynamic' is pointless. A Jeep is 'great' too. Why is the GT4 great? I.e Steering on center allows for better mid corner adjustments. That sort of thing. This comes to more basic presentation skills. More active voice. Less passive voice. Just constructive criticism. I'm glad the content is there. Just offering advice to make it even better!
hi, what are your thoughts about the 718 gt4???????? any guesses?
+Elie Nehme Hi Elie! A bit early at this stage, but I think we can expect more of the same. Still Naturally Aspirated, still manual, minor updates. I think the big changes (like going turbocharged) will happen for the next generation of GT4/3/3RS. Just my guess.
They are staying NA for the GTx cars. Head of Porsche’s GT cars, Andreas Preuninger, said on March 6th, 2016, "Based on the huge success we had on the GT4, you can imagine we won’t ditch that project. The next generation (718) might get a GT4 as well. On the GT models we want the six cylinders, the atmospheric engines.”
+driveopolis +nwGTS thx
***** driveopolis thx
I also had a 997 GT3 before owning my GT4, and I have to say I much prefer the GT4. A mid engine configuration is so hard to beat, and some day I hope Porsche just says to hell with it and makes the 911 mid engine. The pro race teams would dance in the streets! You can say what you want about keeping the tradition of a car's original layout, but even Chevrolet with the upcoming C8 Corvette plans on going mid engine after decades of front engine. My only disagreement with you - Guards Red looks better!
+993mike Haha! I was expecting the Guards Red guys to chime in. Loved your comment though! ;) There was talk about a decade ago about the 911 finally going mid-engined, and I do appreciate the airier cabin in the 911 but I agree with you on the more natural driving experience of the GT4. I suppose if the GT3 came back in a manual, would you go back?
911 likes. Couldn't bring myself to give another like so I subbed instead.
I appreciate it! A lot! Thank you.
How much you pay for this including taxes? I got my used 2014 cayman s for 75k + tax a half a yr ago...love it. Best enjoyment per dollar in the world i think...
+barack obama Pretty much full MSRP. Which is a 'good deal' when you consider used ones are all marked up now.
+driveopolis Wow you lucked out then....yeah I see it on autotrader for 130k plus canadian. May I ask why you decided to get rid of your 997 gt3? Very very nice review on the m2 btw.
The GT3 was aging and needed some maintenance and prep for better reliability. I was happy with it, but the GT4 was very tempting. Happy I made the switch though I do sometimes miss the gorgeous metzger engine from the GT3 and the even more feelsome hydraulic steering. Still, the GT4 is making me very happy right now!
Keep it up !! Great taste !! M2 & Gt4 Thanks !!
Thanks for your support and encouragement!
Great review. SUBBED
+zmaximilian Thank you!
Yup, you chose the better red for sure.
+Jeff K Haha, color is definitely a matter of taste and thank you!
Great choice.
+dhns555 Thank you!
Great review , no noncense ... Thanx :)
+marleynl Thank you marleynl!
red looks really good on a GT4
+hannes something Thanks Hannes! Nice carspotting videos!
driveopolis thanks
driveopolis in acouple of years, i might be part of the Porsche squad, i'm planning on buying a 944.
yeah, it's not the fastest porsche
+hannes something It doesn't have to be fast to be good, or to be fast for you to enjoy and learn on it. No shame in a 944, it's still a great Porsche! Keep up your car spotting in the meantime and have fun!
driveopolis yeah i love the 944 because it has a 100 percent Porsche engine (unlike the 924) and is very affordable.
unfortunately the taxes are pretty high for what a 944 costs
I like the Carmine Red
+Gary Jones Thanks Gary!