I went to highschool with Ezrela and I’m so proud to see how far she’s come and proud to see the work and dedication she put in. She was such a natural on camera ❤
i'm literally a straight african guy who has never cared about kpop even a little but here i am following all six members on IG and watching all their youtube videos and apple music interviews, checking out their livestreams, they're just cool as hell
@@garc9192 I think the commenter is aware of that. It's just a way of saying that even though most people who follow Katseye are already kpop fans or casual listeners, Pop Academy did succeed in bringing people who weren't into kpop, to Katseye. And it's awesome to see that!
The documentary felt less about Katseye and more about the process and the dream academy, so they can do this again. It also seems like the point of the show was to make people fall in love with Emily, Ezrela, Samara, and maybe even Lexie to create a second group for the label. Regardless I'm seated for Katseye.
Right? I thought they’d focus on the people who made the group like as a gift to the fans of the group? Like I love Ezrela DOWN she was my favorite during dream academy but it’s called “KATSEYE: pop star academy” so I’m expecting to focus on Katseye members but anyways it was kinda disappointing
@@soldeclefocusing on the process was the best decision in terms of marketing, nobody wants to watch a documentary about a group they don't stan. I only knew vaguely about Katseye before watching it and I would not have been interested if they focused only on the members.
@@joshybbx this is the reason why I fully believe hybe weren’t expecting nayoung to be more popular than yoonchae. I think they wanted the maknae to be korean
Oh friend! The Korean and Chinese Survival Groups are on ANOTHER LEVEL! I am more into Boy Groups so I HIGHLY recommend Kingdom. It is all debuted groups. They have groups that are rookies, veterans, from small agencies, and bigger agencies! The amount of skill and charisma is just huge.
@@selxwrld Amazon, Freevee, Pluto, and Tubi. The last three are free with ads. Some performances are uploaded on TH-cam if you just want to see stages but I recommend episodes if you want to see BTS, relationships (some members of different groups trained but debut in different groups under different agencies), and personalities.
I mean over there you have people who are already part of a training program since 12 or something now that I think of it isn’t there a 12 years old member in unis?😭💀
I really don't see Katseye flopping. I've heard "Debut" play on the radio and they have a really large Filipino fanbase. While most Eyekons right now are kpop fans, they're gaining new fans each and everyday. They're also promoting right now throughout Asia, although just Korea and the Phillipines so far. I hope they don't wait too long to release something new though because I feel like soon they're gonna need it to continue building momentum. I think their longevity is really going to be impacted by the amount of momentum they're able to build over the next year. I think if they're able to keep this up they really do have the chance to be really big although I 100% understand the difficulty in imagining it.
I've been following them since dream academy was announced and let me tell you, the fandom was so messy during the survival part of the project. So many fanwars (a lot of racism). I'm glad the fandom is pretty much chill and supportive of all 6 girls now but omg it was bad before and when the documentary released.
Exactlyyy! A lot of TH-camrs miss this context. There was already reasons for manon fans and fans of Lara to be on edge. I remember after the first ranking manon got hate. I still see the hateful TikTok accounts dedicated to manon specifically. But at least the comment section on katseyes accounts seem pretty positive now.
I agree...there was lots of racism. Also, I feel like every single person who was injured was automatically disqualified by the staff. I really cried when Samara didn't make it. 😢😢
I think for the benefit of the group the Netflix documentary could have had another episode that focus on the six final girls or even another season to continue girls journey to record their first EP and end with their first single so everyone who watched it could hear at least one of their final song. P.S. They easily could have created second "younger and more pop/fun/silly" group with Emily, Ezrela, Samara. Add Lexie to this and it's perfect. (From “Wannabe” group I am unsure a little bit about Ua but I believe she was only 15 there so she had so much room to mature and grow). Emily in wannabe was giving so much Emma Bunton vibes in her own "Emily way". And yes, I agree with you on Ezrela and how she was so underrated!
imo if the hype for the documentary and the group don’t fall off pretty quickly (fingers crossed it doesn’t) i could easily see them doing a follow up documentary like “one year after debut”. a huge part of the allure of the group and why so many people are getting invested after the documentary is because of their authentic personalities and people would eat up just watching the girls candidly.
Lexie , Ezrela and Marquise would've been a great B team! Unfortunately, Emily cannot sing (they autotuned her to hell and back on the Britney performance). And samara is incredibly racist. Sad but its true.
The 14 year old girl that you mentioned was acting too "cutesy" in pink venom. It was obviously too young she is literally a child it's not her fault. This show should not involve children
I think Nayoung being eliminated was probably some kind of fate for her considering she ended up debuting from another survival show. A more vocal based group makes way more sense for her and in retrospect I think Yoonchae was a better fit for the group we ended up getting.
Manon has the elusive ‘it’ factor. It’s that simple, also through the show it seemed like even when she hadn’t attended practice she still picked up the choreo and vocals quickly. She seems to have amassed the most followers, but I can see Sophia possibly overtaking her with followers, just because she’s the leader of the group and she’s so good.
So true. It is not all about vocals when it comes to making the best lineup this is prob the reason why I fully believe hybe weren’t expecting nayoung to be more popular than yoonchae. I think they wanted the maknae to be korean
Also she is just an obvious visual! You look at kpop groups and you spot that one person who stands out and you’re like yup that’s the visual! you got aespa with Karina, twice with tzuyu, blackpink with jisoo, bts with Jin, exo with sehun red velvet with Irene tvxq with jaejoong (i know it’s old but my guy was the blue print at sm) got7 with mark WayV with Lucas or seventeen with Vernon like why are people acting like we don’t know this?😭 there just has to be that member who will pull in people to want to know more
True but you are forgetting that they are supposed to be a team. Even if she picked up the Choreo quickly they still need to practice as a group to know there positions etc. So Manon not being there affects how the other girls practice too. Thankfully p, Manon understood her mistake and started to actually put in effort and actually act like a team.
@@Mitchis_Euphoria Yes, but it’s up to management to lay down the rules where someone isn’t used to their level of training. She took accountability for her actions, when she realised how it affected the girls. Whilst I got the girls frustrations, they really shouldn’t have taken it out on her in the manner they did. But all that is said and done. The TV series took place probably two years ago. They’re all fine now and obviously a group, so you’re making a moot point.
I remember watching Dream Academy and thinking they would be stupid and loosing money if they didn't put her in the group, there's not a lot of people with that star power. Tho I did doubt if she was gonna be in the group, even before knowing she skipped training classes, cuz she wasn't as talented as the other girls
i have never been a big kpop person but katseye has got me in shackles. i am stanning so hard and i haven't been this obsessed with an artist or group in sooo long!! they are just so talented and they all radiate so much star power and it girl factor. i can definitely see myself supporting them for a long time, i've already bought their album books and i want them to go on a us tour so i can see them perform in person. they're also growing so fast so i can also see them staying for a while, just as long and hybe and geffen are smart and continue to promote them. i am worried that they'll pull what jyp did with vcha. but i am hoping for the very best for katseye
You have to watch BOYS PLANET and do a deep dive on why they are one of the only popular boy groups right now. Their ENTIRE FANBASE internationally is girl group stans like 😭😭😭 if you like any male survival show or kpop boy group it would be BOYS PLANET and ZB1 trust me
Adela’s debut single (and music video) is sooooo good I’m so happy for her , the production level is great too. Some of the other girls have gone off on their own too but I’m particularly obsessed with adela
if people watch their lives on weverse omg they are so unfiltered BAHAHA i love katseye so much and being a part of their fandom even if you don’t like k-pop is so much fun! alsooo they sold out their tickets in korea and philippines so far!! so happy for the girlsss
One thing that my friend pointed out to me was the hypocrisy of kicking Niasha off because of the private instagram. My friend said that there's a scene in the show of another girl singing the song they sang at the end of the show to her family on facetime. I went back and low behold, it actually did happen. So it's really funny how they kicked Niasha out but kept that other girl in.
They never liked Naisha, she was the backup to Manon imo. They obviously wanted the lineup to be very diverse so they didn’t want two black girls in the group to make space for others. As soon as Manon’s skill set started adjusting to what they wanted they needed Naisha gone.
@@TooSpicyForYourHeart_not sure how diverse they are if there’s 4 Asians in the group. Another mixed with black girl wouldn’t have made the group less diverse, they would’ve had another Sough American representative
there’s a chance that their nda’s could have had stipulations for sharing certain information with immediately family. this can happen a lot when minors have to sign them, so if that is actually the case it could be why. but naisha’s elimination was shady to me, the fact they didn’t show any kind of evidence she had outside followers makes me suspicious because i feel like if they had it, they would’ve absolved themselves in the documentary some how. kind of felt like they sacrificed her to make a point to me.
Lexie was my top pick since ep1 and I'm 100% sure that she could have easily made it if she didnt decide to leave. Also she did the right thing, I would have done the same given the circumstances, giant moral integrity
thats what im saying. its very obvious that a lot of people who stan katseye have never been into kpop. they're acting like this docu is the most dramatic and scandalous thing that has happened. It's kinda funny
@@katgreer6113I mean yeah lol cause like you said majority of them arent into kpop so theyre comparing this to shows like american idol or X factor that can get a bit intense sometimes but it is nothing like kpop survival shows
Exactly lol. The star academy is really taned compare to your average produce survival show. Also, their training program also looks more tamed compare to what actual training program in korea.
manon i think had something other girls didn’t have but like them all, had their areas. (emily-dance, sophia-leader & vocals, lara-star quality & vocals, ua-dance, etc), manon had star quality behind anyone remotely close in the program (only lara & lexie showed some to me) so the producers wanted her badly to debut & it makes sense. plus she already had a nice following beforehand and has a beautiful lower vocal register.
My favourites all the way through were Yoonchae and Megan, and then I really loved Lara by the end and Ezrela was my girl even though I kind of knew deep down that she probably wasn't the right fit for this specific group. Also I found out in my notes app that I actually ranked the girls while I was following the survival show so that I knew who to vote for, and I pretty much predicted the group 😭
I just think emily is talented but she would visually stick out in a group of tall conventionally beautiful models. Visual compatibility is important in a girl group to appeal to the public imo, and i don’t just mean height, the current line up all has a similar face type (longer faces) despite their ethnic differences so they still blend well.
Emily does give powerful backup dancer to me but i could maybe see her shine in a cutesy bubbly group concept, unfortunately thats not the route producers were taking the group
I think if Lexie didn't leave then Emily would have joined the group with her . Then the height issue would not be there . I think that the makers had another idea for how the group will look and the girls they want to see in the group but so many things happened during the survival show that eventually lead to how Katseye is now . If that survival show didn't happen or their Netflix documentary came out during the survival show then we would have got completely different members in Katseye.
@@dishanarjinary2546I don’t think Emily would’ve made it anyways bcuz fans did NOT like her. She was either “cringe” “ugly” I definitely don’t think it was the height that was the problem but amongst fanbases she wasn’t popular at all and while it’s mean…most watchers if not all are kpop fans. They can say the opposite all they want but they care about looks. I mean when they said Americans struggled getting their country votes but Nayoung had the most American fans, it made sense. She’s Korean, pretty pale and looks like an idol already. She fits the Asian mold that people unfortunately fetishize. A lot of comments were hating Emily’s looks. I remember seeing those comments when they dropped that little press conference thing. And that’s so normal. I remember one group enjoyed I think people didn’t want Daniel and k in the group solely due to height and looks?
I'm SO happy you made a video about Katseye!! Fun fact, I watched your 1D video a couple of months ago while we were starved and waiting for the girls to debut to get an idea of how HxG would handle them. So its cool to come back and see you talking about them!
Gurlll mee, since I saw the show im literally breathing Katseye content, like idk if hybe made a deal with the devil or something, but I’m obsessed with them
@@sofypi7493Not saying you’re wrong, but almost all the big western artists now are backed by huge industry giants as well. Very hard for independent artists to survive in the US music industry. Personally its not an issue for me, i just want fun pop gurls that can PERFORM for their life. I’m sure once they stabilise their brand, they will have more artistic freedom just going off how Hybe manages their artists releasing solo projects while in the group.A collective slay
@@sofypi7493I knooo, but like this stuff doesn't usually caught my attention idk why i'm so drawn into them, i don't even like kpop or girls group, they def made some kind of satanic shit and i'm here for it
I'm only 5 minutes into this video so far but I already liked and subscribed because I'm obsessed with you already LOL it's like a mix of a youtube video essay but also feels like we're gossiping on facetime, idk how to explain it but yea love itttt
37:53 Honestly i was thinking the same thing, maybe give it a year and debut 'dreamscape' the sweeter lighter side to katseye with some of the girls that were really good but just didn't fit the katseye concept. cuz ezrela and emily had a good chance before lexie left but they just didn't fit katseye as well as the katseye members do.
as someone who grew up a huge little mix fan, ever since they disbanded ive been itching for a girl group to take their spot in my heart. and katseye really did it for me. im also american and this is the first kpop adjacent group ive been getting into, i didn't even realize how deeply rooted in kpop the group was until i watched the documentary. i really do think they have the potential to break the global market, and i know they are performing at jingle ball in various arenas in the us and its already giving them great exposure! overall, really hoping the group makes it further as i am just completely obsessed with them
I’m gonna be honest, I thought the documentary would follow the girls equally through the training program and then the show. Imagine my surprise when, by the last episode, I was still missing seeing stuff about Yoonchae, Manon, Ezrela, Angelina (who never gets even mentioned in the documentaty aside of the leaderboard), Celeste (she made it to the semifinals and they showed us nothing about her except her entrance to the academy), UA (I was against her being there because she’s so young but at the same time, she was supposed to be an ace at heels dance so idk why they never showed or mentioned it), Nayoung… yeah. I wish they had shown more girls and that we got to meet them better and more.
I always wanted to do something like this but I am a dark skin black girl and tbh I thought they would find a way to not let me debut cuz of that. After watching the documentary I’m made the right choice because I was right! Not a single dark skin black girl was chosen from audition or scouting. It was all mixed raced or light skin black girls 😂 I think I’ve gotten used to the fact that the entertainment industry will never see a dark skin girl as pretty or desirable.
I agree. They even used the words “aggressive “ when describing her dance style. They were searching for a particular look and we all know society in most cultures still look at dark skin as undesirable
I really enjoy this type of documentary it's so up my alley and I wish there were more of them. I know in K-pop there are some, but it's a bit difficult for me to feel immersed in it cause subtitles don't catch everything 😅
I definitely think they have the potential to make it really big globally. Like I'd say a good amount of my Eyekon mutuals on Twitter are non-kpop stans and I've seen them put their other mutuals onto Katseye, so yeah, I think they can grow thru word of mouth. I've also heard my sister listening to them and the only Kpop related thing she's ever been interested in is Jennie from Blackpink, so to me that's kind of a good sign lol.
I really want to hear your opinion on Missy, because while watching the documentary every time she appeared on the screen and talked about the girls it gave me a lot of bad vibes (in the sense of, it was massively clear which girls she liked and which she didn’t and she was lowkey shady to the ones she didn’t like).
Adela has original music out and Karlee is doing vlogs and has original music coming out soon, for all the others like me who were devastated when they were eliminated
I too got addicted to katseye after the netflix documentrary. however, I don't see this temporary obessesion going further simply because of the lyrics to their songs. Other than 'touch', their songs scream to me that they were written by some old guy trying to appeal to teens. I am surprised you like the dream academy 'girls like boys' song because to me the opening lyrics: 'whole lot of savage' really repelled me lol. Like what 20 year old in 2024 says savage anymore? Also 'debut' sounds good to me but again the lyrics are distractingly questionable for me. ('no we aint flexing we do what we do' ... well what do they do? we don't know them) They just feel extremly manufactured and not personal, which i think is an important element that is needed to appeal to western audiences. Even if the songs are manufactured or shallow in message, I think it is important for the songs to still feel like they are coming from the girls themselves (like with fifth harmony) I hope they allow the girls more creative input because they seem really talented creatively as well (especially Lara) and i hope the producers behind the seen are able to marry the kpop sound with western demands a bit better for their next projects.
I get what you mean like the lyrics could be kinda better but honestly as a like music , vibe person I don’t really mind the lyrics not being extraordinary (I love my way lyrics they are really good imo )
(imo) they have been purposefully experimenting with different sounds with every song, this seems obvious from how completely different debut and touch are. I’m assuming based off the success of touch that is probably the musical direction their songs are gonna take. but you’re right, if they want to succeed in a global market they need to mix up catchy k-pop esque songs like touch and some thoughtful and artistic songwriting because that is what sells in the west currently.
I’ve had this video saved in my watch later for a minute since I wanted to finish watching the show first and I’m so glad to hear your takes on it all! I’m a big kpop stan and was familiar with dream academy while it aired but I reallyyyy loved watching the show and getting to know them in that way. When the only way you learn about trainees is through survival shows,s since it’s already a high stress environment I feel like they don’t show as much of their friendships/growth together like I feel like the early episodes of pop star academy is. I love the girls and am rooting for literally all of them! I’d loveee lexrela to debut together somewhere else bc their friendships/personalities were so fun to watch. My faves were Daniela and Sophia! I’m also hoping for their longevity and success but well for real just have to see! They’re playing some jingle balls throughout America this year so I hope that puts them on more people’s radars!
You should check out Dear Alice. They are an upcoming British boy group from SM Entertainment and are currently have a survival show called Made In Korea. The songs they have teased some songs and it's giving 1D.
i was interested in seeing the show but i think the episodes are geo-restricted by the bbc 😭that's one good thing about the katseye documentary it's on a global platform which makes sense for a global girl group . I'll keep an eye out for this group though, there hasn't been a really successful western boy group since 1D
They had concept art of the show and you can see who they might have been aiming for. One piece of art had Lexi, Sophia, Manon, Nayoung, and Emily. A lot of people took this to mean this is what they kind of wanted the group to look like.
At the end of the day it was still a competition against 1 another, going public just made it more real and kinda woke them up and made them realize like oh shit at the end of the day it’s a competition
your videos keep getting recommended to me and im glad youtube has decided to pick you up, its so refreshing to see a lesbian of color have a platform especially someone so vibrant and unapologetic as you! your sense of humor is so unique yet you create such informational and engaging content its crazy. im hooked, keep going!!!
I didn't really get into Katseye or know anything aside from "Debut" before watching the docu-series although I'd heard of Dream Academy prior. I didn't know most of the member's names going in but I recognized their faces so I was a bit confused in the beginning why all of the girls weren't there but it obviously made sense later on. :P I'm loving how all of the girls are all slowly finding their own success right now. Adela just released her first single and Emily did her choreo and is one of her dancers along with another girl who was trained with them but not on the show. Karlee just started a TH-cam channel and is working on music. Brooklyn and I believe Abby as well have released some music as well and I LOVE how they're all so supportive of each other.
@@emmaaavx9254 i’m a fan of vcha everyone (the companies, the fans, even jasmine) is talking like katseye is the first of it’s kind when other groups have done this before them
Actually Brooklyn got eliminated after Mission 2. The three girls who were eliminated from Mission 3 was Celeste, the pink haired girl, Nayoung, and I think UA was also eliminated.
as a dancer, i actually felt that emily lacked texture in her dancing. she’s a powerhouse but it’s hard to keep attention on her if every single move is equally snappy & powerful. my dance coaches call it the milk & sprite of dancing. and emily was all sprite, no milk. i dont think she wouldve worked as a pop star at this current point. just my opinion tho.
@@cerbzzz7147 ua’s lines arent as clean as emily’s. ua has cleaner angles. but utilizes less dimensions when she presents those angles (less visually interesting). she sometimes dances at the back of the beat (allows for more time between moves for audience to absorb her expressions) whereas emily attacks the beat for more impact. and both of them could work on texturizing their performance style i think ua’s dance style would be more suited for a girl group where everyone must blend in during certain parts of choreo. but her vocals suffer while dancing. so i can see why she didnt make it/isnt ready to debut
I liked Emily too, voted for her during dream academy but the group wont be balanced with 3 good dancers because Dani and Megan are already good at that so picking Yoonchae for me was perfect aside from the fact that Hybe will debut a korean because its still a kpop company. I liked Nayoung over Yoonchae during the show but it is what is. As for Manon, im ok with her. I see why she's picked but I'd still pick Samara over her or Ezrela
They couldn’t go with Nayoung because she expressed how she wanted to go solo in the future so that was a red flag. Also Samara had controversy(being racist) going on at the time that prevented her from debuting.
@@katelynvictorino8364 but Nayoung is debuting to a kpop group now isnt she? Dream academy obviously favored Yoonchae. Samara was unfortunate really, imagine that voice blending with Lara and Sophia. Pop perfection
@karlasalazar9520 tbh it would be easier for her to go solo in a Korean group than if she was in Katseye. It is very normal for kpop idols to have group and solo career, while in the west it is not common to have both.
Hope you'll check out Made In Korea The Kpop experience which is the same as pop star academy but focusing on boys from britain training at sm ent the biggest kpop agency in order to debut as dear alice. highly recommend their predebut songs vibes and solar because they are such a bright and fun sound missing in boy group music.
As someone who never listens to Kpop and also doesn't really like Kpop, I LOVE katseye, because I watched the show and have more of connection to the girls than if I didn't watch the show. Their personalities really pulled me in. But what I like in bands and groups is chemistry with eachother, artistry (writing their own songs) and autheniticy. I'm not sure if katseye is going to give all that, but we'll see. For now I really like them and I am actually really amazed by the music they have put out, cause I thought that I wasn't going to like it. Also I was shocked when I saw that they already have 13 million monthly Spotify listeners, like that's actually insane
Did you miss the part where bang said he wanted to watch the girls on screen first because you can tell if the have star power and I think he proved his point once the show went public, the people voted for the person that drew them in
Manon wasn't the only inexperienced girl there, a few of them were like her experience wise. I believe the girls were frustrated and felt disrespected that she was getting so much attention meanwhile she wasn't a team player or putting in any effort, which is completely valid. The only other girl not showing up was Lexi, but it seemed like she expressed she didn't want to be in the program anymore, they didn't let her leave, so she stayed away until they had to call her in. Personally, I really like all the girls and Katseye, and they seem to be forming a bond with each other
It was literally stated that there were multiple other girls missing practices. Missy even had an interview where she said attendance to T&D was NOT mandatory. The documentary just cut stuff up and didn’t show a lot.
The MAMA performance is such a good insert by hybe because it made some people curious about who they are. I see some K-netizens comment and compliment. Their tiktoks, youtube vids, and other materials are capturing the girls' personalities. We can see them comfortable argue with each other, just like any friends/sisters would. They are welltaken care off.
It was SO unethical how they surprised them 2 years in that it was a survival show. I cried when they eliminated Adela and again when Lexi and Emily left. This show was evil.
Seeing the success of the show,we might get a S2 but the boys version ? I hope so!!! I also see Western labels try to use the same method to create groups soon.
As someone who followed the whole Dream Academy show and situation from the beginning and voted/consumed content while it was happening, I can say personally that it was very easy to be blind about the girls' personality, potential and relationships when all you have is performances and visuals. Watching the documentary, I felt so guilty for the way I had viewed girls like Emily and Adela as simply not good enough, when they are so much more than that. And I think that was deliberate, but I also think it sucked. We got a very one-dimensional representation of the girls compared to all the context the docu gives, and so I simply voted for who I thought was the best at singing, dancing and being charming without any knowledge of dynamics, friendships, personality, tensions etc. It was pretty brutal and superficial on the whole, and despite not knowing the girls well I still got emotional every time one got eliminated, and I was very upset by the ending of the live show. It all felt so cruel, and I can understand why Lexie left. And like maybe, *maybe* it would have been okay if they had known about the show from the get-go so they wouldn't have gotten so close only to be torn apart, but I think (unfortunately) it did actually benefit the group in the long run because they had way better group chemistry, being so close and all
At the end of the day rather live or not it was still a competition, and they would have just chosen who they thought they felt was right, I think the girls forgot that at the end of the day only 6 would make it, hearts would be broken no matter what
I think they need to do more promo in America cause they already have Asia in their bag because of Kpop. It’s funny that the Kpop formula that people are complaining about was taken from America I.E Motown..
i’m curious whether people who voted during Dream Academy feel any different after watching Popstar Academy. watching the doc with zero knowledge of Katseye or DA beforehand it was soooo shocking to see who fans were and weren’t voting for. i wonder if the show runners regretted the way they handled things too; if they hadn’t tried to push the drama with the eliminations Lexie likely wouldn’t have left, and it’s clear she was becoming one of their top picks for the group. she was one of my favs too and while i 1000% respected and understood her decision it sucked to see her go!
Yeah no I don't agree with the people who said it didn't want them to see explore the group after. I'm not a KPop stand and I stand them now because of the documentary, like I found out about them because it was recommend on Netflix. I was excited to see what became of them after the programe, even if it's for hate ppl would still want to see what happened.
Great video!!!! I love KATSEYE but i am one of thoes people who are a bit afraid they wont be a successful as i want them to be, so far with SIS put i feel like they could very easily fade in the background with similar sounds of groups like NewJeans or Illit i hope they get more songs like Debut or lean into the girls orgins ld love to hear a Latin beat like Smart by le sserafim or a straight up Bollywood inspired song to help them reach global fanbases as opposed to mainly kpop fans
i didn’t see this as a documentary that was there to promote katseye but a documentary to document the process of putting together a global group using processes that are unorthodox ti western music industry standards. which is why i think the documentary was critical of hybe and geffen
Regarding survival shows, the most draining and nerve wracking survival show I watched is I-Land (1) where Enhypen was created... It was draining so much that when the boys won, the winners didn't celebrate and were crying... I just felt bad to those guys cause they also have cctv like monitoring too... And the challenges really have them drained...
all the girls from dream academy are extremely talented but there’s a reason why the blond white girls didn’t make it (& were always at the bttm of voting)… nobody wants to see another blond white girl in a girl group !!! so i’m extremely happy w/ the final lineup imo.
I think where the whole concept of this project went wrong is that they only focused on the music and dancing part of the girl group when they should of really made an emphasis on acting during the training process and challenges so they could then proceed to make a television show around the girls who made it into the group (kind of like big time rush) where we start the first episode off with someone who is new to the school rushing late to the school hall where the girl group of the school is about to perform at the assembly and then maybe an idea is we see during the performance that the girls are having issues and they then cancel the performance mid show and from there on the schools girl group members all quit which now means there’s a whole new girl group to be made before some big end of year thing and we see all the girls through the first season all auditioning and trying to get in the group where the finale ends on the big end of year school performance or something with the newly established pop star academy group Katseye and we also get other characters from the school in different social groups take a chance and try out to be in the group and even ones who don’t make the group they are all still apart of the cast. In season 2 there could be a whole plot where now that Katseye has been formed by the school we then get a fringe group of girls start their own unofficial girl group in the school where there’s a whole rivalry between the groups. Like imagine there’s so much drama and fear around auditioning for the group at the school against Katseye so you’ve got girls trying to recruit others from unlikely places and groups imagine there’s a whole plot of not going into the bush at the edge of the sports field but there’s a character who has a secret set up in there and could even become a place they secretly practice. Debut is the theme song Boarding school setting so it can also make a perfect setting for specials like Christmas and Halloween.
also if you haven't seen the documentary about the creation of le sserafim you should watch it! it wasn't a survival show, just a documentary. it probably gave hybe the idea to make the katseye documetary!
Tbh, I'm surprised you weren't a K-pop stan already 😂 K-pop would absolutely be your thing. If you're interested in more survival shows (in particular for girl groups), I would recommend Produce 101 S1 and Produce 48. I grew up watching these in middle and high school, and they had amazing groups come out of it.
I went to highschool with Ezrela and I’m so proud to see how far she’s come and proud to see the work and dedication she put in. She was such a natural on camera ❤
i'm literally a straight african guy who has never cared about kpop even a little but here i am following all six members on IG and watching all their youtube videos and apple music interviews, checking out their livestreams, they're just cool as hell
They livestream and update fans on the weverse app! And their performances in korea are fab. In case you didn’t know hahaha.
They are not kpop
oh you’re a weird grown man.
@@garc9192 I think the commenter is aware of that. It's just a way of saying that even though most people who follow Katseye are already kpop fans or casual listeners, Pop Academy did succeed in bringing people who weren't into kpop, to Katseye. And it's awesome to see that!
@@miladeseitan exactly correct
The documentary felt less about Katseye and more about the process and the dream academy, so they can do this again. It also seems like the point of the show was to make people fall in love with Emily, Ezrela, Samara, and maybe even Lexie to create a second group for the label. Regardless I'm seated for Katseye.
Right? I thought they’d focus on the people who made the group like as a gift to the fans of the group? Like I love Ezrela DOWN she was my favorite during dream academy but it’s called “KATSEYE: pop star academy” so I’m expecting to focus on Katseye members but anyways it was kinda disappointing
@@soldeclefocusing on the process was the best decision in terms of marketing, nobody wants to watch a documentary about a group they don't stan. I only knew vaguely about Katseye before watching it and I would not have been interested if they focused only on the members.
They 100% let Nayoung go because she said she wanted to go solo. While Dream Academy was airing she was as stable as Lara and Sophia in votes
yet she went onto another survival show making a girl group and got in.
Which one?@@joshybbx
@@joshybbxhuh!? Which one
@@joshybbx this is the reason why I fully believe hybe weren’t expecting nayoung to be more popular than yoonchae. I think they wanted the maknae to be korean
oh my gosh which group taylor????
Oh friend! The Korean and Chinese Survival Groups are on ANOTHER LEVEL! I am more into Boy Groups so I HIGHLY recommend Kingdom. It is all debuted groups. They have groups that are rookies, veterans, from small agencies, and bigger agencies! The amount of skill and charisma is just huge.
where to watch kingdom?
yesss
@@selxwrld Amazon, Freevee, Pluto, and Tubi. The last three are free with ads. Some performances are uploaded on TH-cam if you just want to see stages but I recommend episodes if you want to see BTS, relationships (some members of different groups trained but debut in different groups under different agencies), and personalities.
I mean over there you have people who are already part of a training program since 12 or something now that I think of it isn’t there a 12 years old member in unis?😭💀
I really don't see Katseye flopping. I've heard "Debut" play on the radio and they have a really large Filipino fanbase. While most Eyekons right now are kpop fans, they're gaining new fans each and everyday. They're also promoting right now throughout Asia, although just Korea and the Phillipines so far. I hope they don't wait too long to release something new though because I feel like soon they're gonna need it to continue building momentum. I think their longevity is really going to be impacted by the amount of momentum they're able to build over the next year. I think if they're able to keep this up they really do have the chance to be really big although I 100% understand the difficulty in imagining it.
I've been following them since dream academy was announced and let me tell you, the fandom was so messy during the survival part of the project. So many fanwars (a lot of racism). I'm glad the fandom is pretty much chill and supportive of all 6 girls now but omg it was bad before and when the documentary released.
Exactlyyy! A lot of TH-camrs miss this context. There was already reasons for manon fans and fans of Lara to be on edge. I remember after the first ranking manon got hate. I still see the hateful TikTok accounts dedicated to manon specifically. But at least the comment section on katseyes accounts seem pretty positive now.
@@everygoodhanldeistakenew gatekeepers suck
@@everygoodhanldeistakengatekeepers r losers
I agree...there was lots of racism. Also, I feel like every single person who was injured was automatically disqualified by the staff. I really cried when Samara didn't make it. 😢😢
I'M SOO GLAD U APPRECIATED DANIELA!! literally also couldn't take my eyes off of her every mission, she rlly did her thing
I think for the benefit of the group the Netflix documentary could have had another episode that focus on the six final girls or even another season to continue girls journey to record their first EP and end with their first single so everyone who watched it could hear at least one of their final song.
P.S. They easily could have created second "younger and more pop/fun/silly" group with Emily, Ezrela, Samara. Add Lexie to this and it's perfect. (From “Wannabe” group I am unsure a little bit about Ua but I believe she was only 15 there so she had so much room to mature and grow). Emily in wannabe was giving so much Emma Bunton vibes in her own "Emily way". And yes, I agree with you on Ezrela and how she was so underrated!
imo if the hype for the documentary and the group don’t fall off pretty quickly (fingers crossed it doesn’t) i could easily see them doing a follow up documentary like “one year after debut”. a huge part of the allure of the group and why so many people are getting invested after the documentary is because of their authentic personalities and people would eat up just watching the girls candidly.
Lexie , Ezrela and Marquise would've been a great B team! Unfortunately, Emily cannot sing (they autotuned her to hell and back on the Britney performance). And samara is incredibly racist. Sad but its true.
The 14 year old girl that you mentioned was acting too "cutesy" in pink venom. It was obviously too young she is literally a child it's not her fault. This show should not involve children
I agree lol i’ve seen kpop survival shows including LITERAL 10-12 YEAR OLDS and honestly its kinda painful seeing them get eliminated early on
@@jiafei1904not just including. debuting, even!
I think Nayoung being eliminated was probably some kind of fate for her considering she ended up debuting from another survival show. A more vocal based group makes way more sense for her and in retrospect I think Yoonchae was a better fit for the group we ended up getting.
Manon has the elusive ‘it’ factor. It’s that simple, also through the show it seemed like even when she hadn’t attended practice she still picked up the choreo and vocals quickly. She seems to have amassed the most followers, but I can see Sophia possibly overtaking her with followers, just because she’s the leader of the group and she’s so good.
So true. It is not all about vocals when it comes to making the best lineup
this is prob the reason why I fully believe hybe weren’t expecting nayoung to be more popular than yoonchae. I think they wanted the maknae to be korean
Also she is just an obvious visual! You look at kpop groups and you spot that one person who stands out and you’re like yup that’s the visual! you got
aespa with Karina,
twice with tzuyu,
blackpink with jisoo,
bts with Jin,
exo with sehun
red velvet with Irene
tvxq with jaejoong (i know it’s old but my guy was the blue print at sm)
got7 with mark
WayV with Lucas
or seventeen with Vernon
like why are people acting like we don’t know this?😭
there just has to be that member who will pull in people to want to know more
True but you are forgetting that they are supposed to be a team. Even if she picked up the Choreo quickly they still need to practice as a group to know there positions etc. So Manon not being there affects how the other girls practice too. Thankfully p, Manon understood her mistake and started to actually put in effort and actually act like a team.
@@Mitchis_Euphoria Yes, but it’s up to management to lay down the rules where someone isn’t used to their level of training. She took accountability for her actions, when she realised how it affected the girls. Whilst I got the girls frustrations, they really shouldn’t have taken it out on her in the manner they did. But all that is said and done. The TV series took place probably two years ago. They’re all fine now and obviously a group, so you’re making a moot point.
I remember watching Dream Academy and thinking they would be stupid and loosing money if they didn't put her in the group, there's not a lot of people with that star power. Tho I did doubt if she was gonna be in the group, even before knowing she skipped training classes, cuz she wasn't as talented as the other girls
i have never been a big kpop person but katseye has got me in shackles. i am stanning so hard and i haven't been this obsessed with an artist or group in sooo long!! they are just so talented and they all radiate so much star power and it girl factor. i can definitely see myself supporting them for a long time, i've already bought their album books and i want them to go on a us tour so i can see them perform in person. they're also growing so fast so i can also see them staying for a while, just as long and hybe and geffen are smart and continue to promote them. i am worried that they'll pull what jyp did with vcha. but i am hoping for the very best for katseye
You have to watch BOYS PLANET and do a deep dive on why they are one of the only popular boy groups right now. Their ENTIRE FANBASE internationally is girl group stans like 😭😭😭 if you like any male survival show or kpop boy group it would be BOYS PLANET and ZB1 trust me
So trueee
Zb1 is literally the only boy group I stan TT Also boys planet is one of the most enjoyable survival shows
That’s real, I mainly listen to gg’s and they’re the only boy group survival show I tuned in for
LIVE LAUGH LOVE ZB1
This transition to long form current topic essays I’m IN LOVE WITH
Adela’s debut single (and music video) is sooooo good I’m so happy for her , the production level is great too. Some of the other girls have gone off on their own too but I’m particularly obsessed with adela
if people watch their lives on weverse omg they are so unfiltered BAHAHA i love katseye so much and being a part of their fandom even if you don’t like k-pop is so much fun! alsooo they sold out their tickets in korea and philippines so far!! so happy for the girlsss
One thing that my friend pointed out to me was the hypocrisy of kicking Niasha off because of the private instagram. My friend said that there's a scene in the show of another girl singing the song they sang at the end of the show to her family on facetime. I went back and low behold, it actually did happen. So it's really funny how they kicked Niasha out but kept that other girl in.
They never liked Naisha, she was the backup to Manon imo. They obviously wanted the lineup to be very diverse so they didn’t want two black girls in the group to make space for others. As soon as Manon’s skill set started adjusting to what they wanted they needed Naisha gone.
@@TooSpicyForYourHeart_not sure how diverse they are if there’s 4 Asians in the group. Another mixed with black girl wouldn’t have made the group less diverse, they would’ve had another Sough American representative
there’s a chance that their nda’s could have had stipulations for sharing certain information with immediately family. this can happen a lot when minors have to sign them, so if that is actually the case it could be why. but naisha’s elimination was shady to me, the fact they didn’t show any kind of evidence she had outside followers makes me suspicious because i feel like if they had it, they would’ve absolved themselves in the documentary some how. kind of felt like they sacrificed her to make a point to me.
Lexie was my top pick since ep1 and I'm 100% sure that she could have easily made it if she didnt decide to leave. Also she did the right thing, I would have done the same given the circumstances, giant moral integrity
oh she def would have. the producers loved her & manon the most it seemed. well sophia too.
the first survival show i watched was produce48 so the katseye doc felt tame compared 😭 can’t wait to hear your thoughts!
thats what im saying. its very obvious that a lot of people who stan katseye have never been into kpop. they're acting like this docu is the most dramatic and scandalous thing that has happened. It's kinda funny
@@katgreer6113I mean yeah lol cause like you said majority of them arent into kpop so theyre comparing this to shows like american idol or X factor that can get a bit intense sometimes but it is nothing like kpop survival shows
@@greenthinggg yeah
Exactly lol. The star academy is really taned compare to your average produce survival show. Also, their training program also looks more tamed compare to what actual training program in korea.
@@fie97 like i'm sure Niki would tremble in the presence of Monika or Bae Yoonjung lol
YAAAAAS my two worlds colliding thank u sm for making this video
manon i think had something other girls didn’t have but like them all, had their areas. (emily-dance, sophia-leader & vocals, lara-star quality & vocals, ua-dance, etc), manon had star quality behind anyone remotely close in the program (only lara & lexie showed some to me) so the producers wanted her badly to debut & it makes sense. plus she already had a nice following beforehand and has a beautiful lower vocal register.
My favourites all the way through were Yoonchae and Megan, and then I really loved Lara by the end and Ezrela was my girl even though I kind of knew deep down that she probably wasn't the right fit for this specific group. Also I found out in my notes app that I actually ranked the girls while I was following the survival show so that I knew who to vote for, and I pretty much predicted the group 😭
I just think emily is talented but she would visually stick out in a group of tall conventionally beautiful models. Visual compatibility is important in a girl group to appeal to the public imo, and i don’t just mean height, the current line up all has a similar face type (longer faces) despite their ethnic differences so they still blend well.
Emily does give powerful backup dancer to me but i could maybe see her shine in a cutesy bubbly group concept, unfortunately thats not the route producers were taking the group
I think if Lexie didn't leave then Emily would have joined the group with her . Then the height issue would not be there . I think that the makers had another idea for how the group will look and the girls they want to see in the group but so many things happened during the survival show that eventually lead to how Katseye is now . If that survival show didn't happen or their Netflix documentary came out during the survival show then we would have got completely different members in Katseye.
I think if Lexie and Nayoung had stayed in the show, Emily, Ezrela, Nayoung, Samara, and Lexie could have fit cohesively as a shorter girl group.
@@dishanarjinary2546I don’t think Emily would’ve made it anyways bcuz fans did NOT like her. She was either “cringe” “ugly” I definitely don’t think it was the height that was the problem but amongst fanbases she wasn’t popular at all and while it’s mean…most watchers if not all are kpop fans. They can say the opposite all they want but they care about looks. I mean when they said Americans struggled getting their country votes but Nayoung had the most American fans, it made sense. She’s Korean, pretty pale and looks like an idol already. She fits the Asian mold that people unfortunately fetishize. A lot of comments were hating Emily’s looks. I remember seeing those comments when they dropped that little press conference thing. And that’s so normal. I remember one group enjoyed I think people didn’t want Daniel and k in the group solely due to height and looks?
You guys don’t even realise how f’d up this is to say about someone?? like wow
I'm SO happy you made a video about Katseye!! Fun fact, I watched your 1D video a couple of months ago while we were starved and waiting for the girls to debut to get an idea of how HxG would handle them. So its cool to come back and see you talking about them!
Jasmine talking about more girl groups >>>>>
MY FAVE! please do more videos talking about some of the new ones x
I think katseye will be big, it’s just too early to tell but they’re on their way to 10 million listeners in Spotify so
Gurlll mee, since I saw the show im literally breathing Katseye content, like idk if hybe made a deal with the devil or something, but I’m obsessed with them
Their are just industry plant
@@sofypi7493Not saying you’re wrong, but almost all the big western artists now are backed by huge industry giants as well. Very hard for independent artists to survive in the US music industry. Personally its not an issue for me, i just want fun pop gurls that can PERFORM for their life. I’m sure once they stabilise their brand, they will have more artistic freedom just going off how Hybe manages their artists releasing solo projects while in the group.A collective slay
Sameee
@@sofypi7493I knooo, but like this stuff doesn't usually caught my attention idk why i'm so drawn into them, i don't even like kpop or girls group, they def made some kind of satanic shit and i'm here for it
I'm only 5 minutes into this video so far but I already liked and subscribed because I'm obsessed with you already LOL it's like a mix of a youtube video essay but also feels like we're gossiping on facetime, idk how to explain it but yea love itttt
Still can’t get over that Emily was not included..I think katseye with her included would be still amazing
37:53 Honestly i was thinking the same thing, maybe give it a year and debut 'dreamscape' the sweeter lighter side to katseye with some of the girls that were really good but just didn't fit the katseye concept. cuz ezrela and emily had a good chance before lexie left but they just didn't fit katseye as well as the katseye members do.
as someone who grew up a huge little mix fan, ever since they disbanded ive been itching for a girl group to take their spot in my heart. and katseye really did it for me. im also american and this is the first kpop adjacent group ive been getting into, i didn't even realize how deeply rooted in kpop the group was until i watched the documentary. i really do think they have the potential to break the global market, and i know they are performing at jingle ball in various arenas in the us and its already giving them great exposure! overall, really hoping the group makes it further as i am just completely obsessed with them
I’m gonna be honest, I thought the documentary would follow the girls equally through the training program and then the show. Imagine my surprise when, by the last episode, I was still missing seeing stuff about Yoonchae, Manon, Ezrela, Angelina (who never gets even mentioned in the documentaty aside of the leaderboard), Celeste (she made it to the semifinals and they showed us nothing about her except her entrance to the academy), UA (I was against her being there because she’s so young but at the same time, she was supposed to be an ace at heels dance so idk why they never showed or mentioned it), Nayoung… yeah. I wish they had shown more girls and that we got to meet them better and more.
BEEN WAITING FOR THIS
I always wanted to do something like this but I am a dark skin black girl and tbh I thought they would find a way to not let me debut cuz of that.
After watching the documentary I’m made the right choice because I was right!
Not a single dark skin black girl was chosen from audition or scouting.
It was all mixed raced or light skin black girls 😂
I think I’ve gotten used to the fact that the entertainment industry will never see a dark skin girl as pretty or desirable.
I agree. They even used the words “aggressive “ when describing her dance style. They were searching for a particular look and we all know society in most cultures still look at dark skin as undesirable
I really enjoy this type of documentary it's so up my alley and I wish there were more of them. I know in K-pop there are some, but it's a bit difficult for me to feel immersed in it cause subtitles don't catch everything 😅
I definitely think they have the potential to make it really big globally. Like I'd say a good amount of my Eyekon mutuals on Twitter are non-kpop stans and I've seen them put their other mutuals onto Katseye, so yeah, I think they can grow thru word of mouth. I've also heard my sister listening to them and the only Kpop related thing she's ever been interested in is Jennie from Blackpink, so to me that's kind of a good sign lol.
i actually know absolutely nothing about this so i’m excited for you to give me the tea
have you heard that simon cowell is trying to make a Netflix documentary trying to make a boyband now 😭
Omg haven’t seen you since the pitfalls of girl group stardom and I’ve been following Katseye since before dream academy worlds colliding
I really want to hear your opinion on Missy, because while watching the documentary every time she appeared on the screen and talked about the girls it gave me a lot of bad vibes (in the sense of, it was massively clear which girls she liked and which she didn’t and she was lowkey shady to the ones she didn’t like).
you need to check out the british girl group ‘Say Now’ next !!
Adela has original music out and Karlee is doing vlogs and has original music coming out soon, for all the others like me who were devastated when they were eliminated
I too got addicted to katseye after the netflix documentrary. however, I don't see this temporary obessesion going further simply because of the lyrics to their songs.
Other than 'touch', their songs scream to me that they were written by some old guy trying to appeal to teens. I am surprised you like the dream academy 'girls like boys' song because to me the opening lyrics: 'whole lot of savage' really repelled me lol. Like what 20 year old in 2024 says savage anymore? Also 'debut' sounds good to me but again the lyrics are distractingly questionable for me. ('no we aint flexing we do what we do' ... well what do they do? we don't know them) They just feel extremly manufactured and not personal, which i think is an important element that is needed to appeal to western audiences. Even if the songs are manufactured or shallow in message, I think it is important for the songs to still feel like they are coming from the girls themselves (like with fifth harmony)
I hope they allow the girls more creative input because they seem really talented creatively as well (especially Lara) and i hope the producers behind the seen are able to marry the kpop sound with western demands a bit better for their next projects.
I get what you mean like the lyrics could be kinda better but honestly as a like music , vibe person I don’t really mind the lyrics not being extraordinary (I love my way lyrics they are really good imo )
sounds like kpop lyrics lmao
@@eyekonssxd yes my way is super cute
(imo) they have been purposefully experimenting with different sounds with every song, this seems obvious from how completely different debut and touch are. I’m assuming based off the success of touch that is probably the musical direction their songs are gonna take. but you’re right, if they want to succeed in a global market they need to mix up catchy k-pop esque songs like touch and some thoughtful and artistic songwriting because that is what sells in the west currently.
@@nicolasf7243 it can also be read as using the first EP to show versatility
you would lose your mind at the diabolical shit korean survival shows pull fr. i have seen so much betrayal and brutality...
I’ve had this video saved in my watch later for a minute since I wanted to finish watching the show first and I’m so glad to hear your takes on it all! I’m a big kpop stan and was familiar with dream academy while it aired but I reallyyyy loved watching the show and getting to know them in that way. When the only way you learn about trainees is through survival shows,s since it’s already a high stress environment I feel like they don’t show as much of their friendships/growth together like I feel like the early episodes of pop star academy is. I love the girls and am rooting for literally all of them! I’d loveee lexrela to debut together somewhere else bc their friendships/personalities were so fun to watch. My faves were Daniela and Sophia!
I’m also hoping for their longevity and success but well for real just have to see! They’re playing some jingle balls throughout America this year so I hope that puts them on more people’s radars!
You should check out Dear Alice. They are an upcoming British boy group from SM Entertainment and are currently have a survival show called Made In Korea. The songs they have teased some songs and it's giving 1D.
i was interested in seeing the show but i think the episodes are geo-restricted by the bbc 😭that's one good thing about the katseye documentary it's on a global platform which makes sense for a global girl group . I'll keep an eye out for this group though, there hasn't been a really successful western boy group since 1D
This is great video!! I love their look and vibe the music is so fun
girl we’re literally twins for the fact we went in blind only knowing manon was in. daniella was a fave of mine from day one as well!!
Your natural skin color IS BEAUTIFUL
under that white foundation
They had concept art of the show and you can see who they might have been aiming for. One piece of art had Lexi, Sophia, Manon, Nayoung, and Emily. A lot of people took this to mean this is what they kind of wanted the group to look like.
At the end of the day it was still a competition against 1 another, going public just made it more real and kinda woke them up and made them realize like oh shit at the end of the day it’s a competition
i'm LOVING your outfit and hairstyle here!!!
your videos keep getting recommended to me and im glad youtube has decided to pick you up, its so refreshing to see a lesbian of color have a platform especially someone so vibrant and unapologetic as you! your sense of humor is so unique yet you create such informational and engaging content its crazy. im hooked, keep going!!!
I had barely heard of Katseye and def not the documentary and this video had me RIVETED! Imma go listen to their music now 😅
survival shows literally crush my soul everytime but they’re so addictinggggg
I didn't really get into Katseye or know anything aside from "Debut" before watching the docu-series although I'd heard of Dream Academy prior. I didn't know most of the member's names going in but I recognized their faces so I was a bit confused in the beginning why all of the girls weren't there but it obviously made sense later on. :P
I'm loving how all of the girls are all slowly finding their own success right now. Adela just released her first single and Emily did her choreo and is one of her dancers along with another girl who was trained with them but not on the show. Karlee just started a TH-cam channel and is working on music. Brooklyn and I believe Abby as well have released some music as well and I LOVE how they're all so supportive of each other.
6:36 vcha get off the floor
stans and their inability to praise their favs without putting others down
Insufferable
Heeeelp not my faves! JYPE fault for being dodoo 😭
@@emmaaavx9254 i’m a fan of vcha everyone (the companies, the fans, even jasmine) is talking like katseye is the first of it’s kind when other groups have done this before them
@@hallooos7585 exactly cuz why did vcha go radio silent when they hype for a global gg is higher than ever 😭😭
I’ve been waiting for this one!!!
Actually Brooklyn got eliminated after Mission 2. The three girls who were eliminated from Mission 3 was Celeste, the pink haired girl, Nayoung, and I think UA was also eliminated.
as a dancer, i actually felt that emily lacked texture in her dancing. she’s a powerhouse but it’s hard to keep attention on her if every single move is equally snappy & powerful. my dance coaches call it the milk & sprite of dancing. and emily was all sprite, no milk. i dont think she wouldve worked as a pop star at this current point.
just my opinion tho.
What did u think of ua's dancing? Since the doc said she's second after Emily
@@cerbzzz7147 ua’s lines arent as clean as emily’s. ua has cleaner angles. but utilizes less dimensions when she presents those angles (less visually interesting). she sometimes dances at the back of the beat (allows for more time between moves for audience to absorb her expressions) whereas emily attacks the beat for more impact.
and both of them could work on texturizing their performance style
i think ua’s dance style would be more suited for a girl group where everyone must blend in during certain parts of choreo.
but her vocals suffer while dancing. so i can see why she didnt make it/isnt ready to debut
@@emilyfishiewho do you think is the best dancer overall? And who are the top 5 dancers?
you should definitely watch the XG Documentary its soooo good
I liked Emily too, voted for her during dream academy but the group wont be balanced with 3 good dancers because Dani and Megan are already good at that so picking Yoonchae for me was perfect aside from the fact that Hybe will debut a korean because its still a kpop company. I liked Nayoung over Yoonchae during the show but it is what is. As for Manon, im ok with her. I see why she's picked but I'd still pick Samara over her or Ezrela
They couldn’t go with Nayoung because she expressed how she wanted to go solo in the future so that was a red flag. Also Samara had controversy(being racist) going on at the time that prevented her from debuting.
@@katelynvictorino8364 but Nayoung is debuting to a kpop group now isnt she? Dream academy obviously favored Yoonchae. Samara was unfortunate really, imagine that voice blending with Lara and Sophia. Pop perfection
@karlasalazar9520 tbh it would be easier for her to go solo in a Korean group than if she was in Katseye. It is very normal for kpop idols to have group and solo career, while in the west it is not common to have both.
Hope you'll check out Made In Korea The Kpop experience which is the same as pop star academy but focusing on boys from britain training at sm ent the biggest kpop agency in order to debut as dear alice. highly recommend their predebut songs vibes and solar because they are such a bright and fun sound missing in boy group music.
As someone who never listens to Kpop and also doesn't really like Kpop, I LOVE katseye, because I watched the show and have more of connection to the girls than if I didn't watch the show. Their personalities really pulled me in. But what I like in bands and groups is chemistry with eachother, artistry (writing their own songs) and autheniticy. I'm not sure if katseye is going to give all that, but we'll see. For now I really like them and I am actually really amazed by the music they have put out, cause I thought that I wasn't going to like it. Also I was shocked when I saw that they already have 13 million monthly Spotify listeners, like that's actually insane
I was waiting for you to talk about Celeste but you didn't even remember her name when she was eliminated lol
Hm? I thought the doc made it VERY clear that the producers loved Adela. She was #1 in ranks. That's why everyone said fans vote on looks
Did you miss the part where bang said he wanted to watch the girls on screen first because you can tell if the have star power and I think he proved his point once the show went public, the people voted for the person that drew them in
i missed seeing you on my recommended 😭!
i’ve been waiting for this since i finished the show😭
Haven’t watched the documentary or heard of the girls before but if Jas is into it then I’ll def check them out!!
Unrelated but I love your gingham top where is it from😭
Manon wasn't the only inexperienced girl there, a few of them were like her experience wise. I believe the girls were frustrated and felt disrespected that she was getting so much attention meanwhile she wasn't a team player or putting in any effort, which is completely valid. The only other girl not showing up was Lexi, but it seemed like she expressed she didn't want to be in the program anymore, they didn't let her leave, so she stayed away until they had to call her in. Personally, I really like all the girls and Katseye, and they seem to be forming a bond with each other
It was literally stated that there were multiple other girls missing practices. Missy even had an interview where she said attendance to T&D was NOT mandatory. The documentary just cut stuff up and didn’t show a lot.
I was waiting to see if you’d do a video on them!!
The MAMA performance is such a good insert by hybe because it made some people curious about who they are. I see some K-netizens comment and compliment. Their tiktoks, youtube vids, and other materials are capturing the girls' personalities. We can see them comfortable argue with each other, just like any friends/sisters would. They are welltaken care off.
It was SO unethical how they surprised them 2 years in that it was a survival show. I cried when they eliminated Adela and again when Lexi and Emily left. This show was evil.
Seeing the success of the show,we might get a S2 but the boys version ? I hope so!!! I also see Western labels try to use the same method to create groups soon.
As someone who followed the whole Dream Academy show and situation from the beginning and voted/consumed content while it was happening, I can say personally that it was very easy to be blind about the girls' personality, potential and relationships when all you have is performances and visuals. Watching the documentary, I felt so guilty for the way I had viewed girls like Emily and Adela as simply not good enough, when they are so much more than that. And I think that was deliberate, but I also think it sucked. We got a very one-dimensional representation of the girls compared to all the context the docu gives, and so I simply voted for who I thought was the best at singing, dancing and being charming without any knowledge of dynamics, friendships, personality, tensions etc. It was pretty brutal and superficial on the whole, and despite not knowing the girls well I still got emotional every time one got eliminated, and I was very upset by the ending of the live show. It all felt so cruel, and I can understand why Lexie left.
And like maybe, *maybe* it would have been okay if they had known about the show from the get-go so they wouldn't have gotten so close only to be torn apart, but I think (unfortunately) it did actually benefit the group in the long run because they had way better group chemistry, being so close and all
At the end of the day rather live or not it was still a competition, and they would have just chosen who they thought they felt was right, I think the girls forgot that at the end of the day only 6 would make it, hearts would be broken no matter what
Ooo this makeup hunny
I was a chorus kid so I was also downstairs with the theater crew lol. I only discovered K-pop recently but it’s the perfect crossover.
I think they need to do more promo in America cause they already have Asia in their bag because of Kpop. It’s funny that the Kpop formula that people are complaining about was taken from America I.E Motown..
my way is my favorite from them so far
Oh if you gotta do girls planet 999 and universe ticket… augh so good
2:06, I’m glad it isn’t only me 😅
i’m curious whether people who voted during Dream Academy feel any different after watching Popstar Academy. watching the doc with zero knowledge of Katseye or DA beforehand it was soooo shocking to see who fans were and weren’t voting for. i wonder if the show runners regretted the way they handled things too; if they hadn’t tried to push the drama with the eliminations Lexie likely wouldn’t have left, and it’s clear she was becoming one of their top picks for the group. she was one of my favs too and while i 1000% respected and understood her decision it sucked to see her go!
Amazing overview,I enjoyed it.❤❤
Yeah no I don't agree with the people who said it didn't want them to see explore the group after. I'm not a KPop stand and I stand them now because of the documentary, like I found out about them because it was recommend on Netflix. I was excited to see what became of them after the programe, even if it's for hate ppl would still want to see what happened.
OH I AM SAT FOR THIS AHHHH
Competition is a part of it.
Great video!!!! I love KATSEYE but i am one of thoes people who are a bit afraid they wont be a successful as i want them to be, so far with SIS put i feel like they could very easily fade in the background with similar sounds of groups like NewJeans or Illit i hope they get more songs like Debut or lean into the girls orgins ld love to hear a Latin beat like Smart by le sserafim or a straight up Bollywood inspired song to help them reach global fanbases as opposed to mainly kpop fans
i didn’t see this as a documentary that was there to promote katseye but a documentary to document the process of putting together a global group using processes that are unorthodox ti western music industry standards. which is why i think the documentary was critical of hybe and geffen
I'm pretty sure that was a set up cause the execs love drama!
YAAASS so excited to watch!
Regarding survival shows, the most draining and nerve wracking survival show I watched is I-Land (1) where Enhypen was created... It was draining so much that when the boys won, the winners didn't celebrate and were crying... I just felt bad to those guys cause they also have cctv like monitoring too... And the challenges really have them drained...
all the girls from dream academy are extremely talented but there’s a reason why the blond white girls didn’t make it (& were always at the bttm of voting)… nobody wants to see another blond white girl in a girl group !!! so i’m extremely happy w/ the final lineup imo.
I’m not into kpop at all but I am a fan of katseye now so I think it’s working
33:34 mitra was just evil in that show
I think where the whole concept of this project went wrong is that they only focused on the music and dancing part of the girl group when they should of really made an emphasis on acting during the training process and challenges so they could then proceed to make a television show around the girls who made it into the group (kind of like big time rush) where we start the first episode off with someone who is new to the school rushing late to the school hall where the girl group of the school is about to perform at the assembly and then maybe an idea is we see during the performance that the girls are having issues and they then cancel the performance mid show and from there on the schools girl group members all quit which now means there’s a whole new girl group to be made before some big end of year thing and we see all the girls through the first season all auditioning and trying to get in the group where the finale ends on the big end of year school performance or something with the newly established pop star academy group Katseye and we also get other characters from the school in different social groups take a chance and try out to be in the group and even ones who don’t make the group they are all still apart of the cast. In season 2 there could be a whole plot where now that Katseye has been formed by the school we then get a fringe group of girls start their own unofficial girl group in the school where there’s a whole rivalry between the groups. Like imagine there’s so much drama and fear around auditioning for the group at the school against Katseye so you’ve got girls trying to recruit others from unlikely places and groups imagine there’s a whole plot of not going into the bush at the edge of the sports field but there’s a character who has a secret set up in there and could even become a place they secretly practice.
Debut is the theme song
Boarding school setting so it can also make a perfect setting for specials like Christmas and Halloween.
As soon as I saw ep1 from the docu i knew Daniela was going to be a star
also if you haven't seen the documentary about the creation of le sserafim you should watch it! it wasn't a survival show, just a documentary. it probably gave hybe the idea to make the katseye documetary!
Tbh, I'm surprised you weren't a K-pop stan already 😂 K-pop would absolutely be your thing. If you're interested in more survival shows (in particular for girl groups), I would recommend Produce 101 S1 and Produce 48. I grew up watching these in middle and high school, and they had amazing groups come out of it.