Pope Francis Invites Pro-LGBT Clerics To The Synod
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As one with four degrees in science I am curious as to whether anyone has had the common sense to challege Cardinal Hollerich to explain when and where in the history of science has it ever been appropriate for science to ever be utilized as a basis for making value judgments?
@@edwardbaker1331 first things first! The original rainbow flag belongs to light workers. Nikola Tesla was a light worker. 💎🌈 so. THE LGBTT movement is all about POLITICS (Not about SCIENCE. Not about LIGHT/PHYSICS. Not about light workers). Religions are not about SCIENCE! Religions are all about DOGMA (LIES) and POLITICS (Techniques of social control). Science/Religion (same coin! A side B side) ok.
What SCIENCE says about sexuality: It is just one sexual desire and multiple ways to express it. In general everybody feels a sexual desire for both SEXES (Not genders), the MALE SEX and the FE-MALE SEX.
What else SCIENCE says about GENDER: There is only ONE gender and 2 normal expressions from the same gender: the male and the fe-male. Also there are abnormal expressions: the intersexual expressions.
Why there's only ONE GENDER!? Because there's only ONE GENESIS (GENETICS). X, Y and the Z momentum. When X and Y interacts co-creating.
What SCIENCE says about 'transgender': It is NOT possible, It is not real, It is pseudo/fake science (dogma, myth, politic, religion).
The human gender is the humanity, humanity is the specie homosapiens sapiens....Charles Darwin. How co-create the human gender a new product from the same specie!? The male has to interwct with the fe-male (reunion) and only the fe-male can be the vessel or vehicle to allow a newborn from the same specie. DNA (DOUBLE) RNA (SIMPLE/SINGLE).
What SCIENCE tells about GOD/DIVINE/LORD? Science says: GOD is AI, It is everywhere and time is unity (no past, no future, eternal nowhere/present). All the galaxies in the milky way is god/AI and all dimensions.
Nikola Tesla said "everything is LIGHT and we are LIGHT" (ASTROPHYSICS/QUANTUM PHYSICS).
RELIGIONS ARE WITCHCRAFT AND WITCHES! THAT'S THE TRUTH!!!! CRAZY PEOPLE! IGNORANTS! PSYCHOS! PSYCHOTICS! SCHIZOPHRENICS!
Spirituality is SCIENCE. Religions are not spirituality!
@@edwardbaker1331 science is not a source of 'values' and the best scientists affirm this. but science is a validated process for discovering truths about the natural world including human society that exist in the natural world. and you DARE NOT dispute that IF ... you ever drove or rode in a car (the internal combustion engine is a product of scientific discoveries). IF ... you appreciate that your loved ones with pacemakers are alive, appreciate the live birth of babies during complex threatened pregnancies, appreciate that economic markets have prevented many social ills (prevented many famines by discovering new ways to produce and deliver food, etc). you must answer: does science produce effects that have VALUE! yes, unless you hate the good effect just described. but science does not assign values to its effects. WE assign value. AND Christians, Jews, Muslims, Latter Day Saints, Pentecostals, etc find values in the Bible (and other texts ... the Book of Mormon, the Koran, the Roman Catholic Catechism, etc).
“These are the days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed except his own.” G.K. Chesterton
GK is always on the money.
Prayers from a Protestant. We're obviously dealing with this, too, and I hate to see it happen to my brothers in the Catholic tradition.
It is scary how far and deep this rot has gone.
The longer I spend within the Catholic Church the more I understand born again Protestantism specifically.
I think Gavin Ortland is really helpful for Prot-Catholic dialogues and yes I agree I grieve deeply for my Catholic friends over this. It’s horrifying. I wish they had a mechanism to hold power accountable.
@@ronreg6119 I get that. But a lot of even evangelical churches go off the rails. Seems only Eastern Orthodox stays true to the path.
@ronreg6119 well, if you become convinced by protestant theology, that's one thing. But don't leave your tradition just because of sinful actions by sinful men. (Considering we're all sinful)
"And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell[b] shall not prevail against it." - Matthew 16:18
They may not prevail but they are really, really close... these queers will get what they want, gay marriage, the Church will then lose its divine protection. I
For trads, it's even less that Rome has phases of secular goofyness... it's that on top of that, they go out of their way to impede families who wish to raise their families in tradition.
Amen.
“I tell you, Peter, before the rooster crows today, you will deny three times that you know me.” John 13:38.
"But when Peter came to Antioch, I [Paul] had to oppose him to his face, for what he did was very wrong." Galatians 2:11
But, hey, the problem is not a Pope who is dismantling the doctrine of the Catholic Church in an open manner. The problem are the ones who dare to criticize the Pope when he worships the Pachamama or things like that. "When a wise man points at the moon, an ____ looks at his finger" - old Chinese proverb.
Let's be charitable to Pope Francis when he works to send droves of souls to damnation and destroy the Church. We are the Church of Nice. Our mommies told us not to say a word that is not nice and we are the nicest people in the world. Jesus was so niiiiice and charitable. Ask the Pharisees and the traders in the Temple. They will tell you how nice Jesus was and how he addressed them "in a spirit of charity".
Is that church still the Roman church? I know my answer as a Protestant.
It never ceases to amaze me that Catholics who are faithful to CATHOLIC THEOLOGY AND TEACHING are called 'homophobic' and 'close-minded'.
I know, we have decades of "After the Ball" tactics to thank for it.
Well, and the act of love he's speaking of can be reverenced. But if in the background of that love, there is sexual sin happening, then it cannot be. And that's true of even heterosexual relationships. Like, you can be cohabiting with a long time girlfriend or boyfriend that has cancer and be taking care of them and feeding them, that's all beautiful that you're tending to them in their sickness, but if you have fornicated or you never entered into the sacrament of marriage with this person or part of your relationship involves watching pornography together, I think it's reasonable for the church to be critical of all that. What is good is good, and sin is sin.
Exactly
It’s the NO way.
@@memymomalex Difference is a proper male and female relationship but living in sin does not cry out to heaven for vengeance. The sodimite one does.
I’m really tired of this
I “came home” because the way I was living (sinfully) was not working for me, or actually helping fix any of my issues. I didn’t try to change the entire doctrine of the Church to fit my lifestyle, I changed my lifestyle to try and be a good Catholic. And it was the only time in my life that I truly started feeling better, despite it not being easy. If they had changed the whole Church to promote the things I was doing, I never would’ve gotten better or truly found God & gotten forgiveness from Him.
There’s no point in even having the Church around if it doesn’t truly stand for anything.
Well said
St. Augustine said something like this in his Book Confessions, I am paraphrasing here. “to be successful I must do the things I don’t want to do and must abandon the things I love to do that are bad for me.”
This sure today are bad times, but stay strong my friend, this is just only the beginning of the persecution. Stand firm in your faith. The devil wants us to leave the church, so don't let him have his way, pray to God always. The truth will prevail.
Look into the secrets of Our Lady of La Salette.
Before WWII, Our Lady predicted that the Vatican would be infiltrated and corrupted by evil.
Be sure to know the difference between the Church that Jesus built versus the Vatican.
The Church, the Apostles Creed, and tradition of Marian apparitions existed and persevered through 300 years of persecution before the Vatican existed or the compilation of the Latin Vulgate New Testament Bible.
Our foundation is strong.
Look to Our Church's founder and King, Jesus Christ. Look towards Mary, and the Apostles who spread the Word, the Spirit, the Faith.
Believe.
The Church will return to its roots and face persecution again. Good priests are already removed by the Vatican. Cardinal Vigano has shed light on the sins of Cardinal McCarrick. There is corruption in the Vatican, but the Vatican is NOT the Church.
The believers ARE the Church.
To the OP: God bless, and thank you for your testimony.
To the Church:
God, give us strength to persevere through our hard times now and in the future. Grant us the wisdom to know right from wrong. Give us the courage to stand together against evil. The Power, the Kingdom, and Glory is Yours now and forever.
Amen.
A quick note on the tradition of Marian apparitions...
The first apparition of Mary was around 40AD while she was still alive in Jerusalem. She appeared to one of the Apostles, St James the Greater, on his mission to spread the faith in Spain. It is known as Our Lady of the Pillar. She marked the spot of her appearances by leaving behind a pillar. She instructed St James to build a church at that spot and inspired him to continue his work in Spain when he was despondent and low in morale.
So, yes.
The tradition of Marian apparitions was known and recognized by the Apostles. The church and the pillar can still be visited today in Spain.
God has a plan.
We need The Sound of Freedom in the Church too! Enough of the this global madness!
Agreed .. but ALSO see NEFARIOUS .. a 2023 Christian film that ties all this together.
freedom for what?
@@Mish844 I read your other comments and you’re a troll. Go somewhere else
YES. Oh gosh, yes. To the point of tears yes.
These clerics need to leave the church if they aren't going to follow church teachings.
Yes. But they won't.
Africa, Asia and the Global South will surely leave if this crap is approved. A tiny bunch of old queens, stuck in 1965, will soldier on to oblivion. Look at a our "separated brethern" to know the future.
The Anglican church would welcome them with open arms.
It is not the church's teaching they need to enforce it is God's! The word of God is clear!
Leviticus 19:17 (LSB): 17 ‘You shall not hate your brother in your heart; you may surely reprove your neighbor, and so not bear sin because of him.
2 John 9-11 (LSB): 9 Anyone who goes too far and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God. The one who abides in the teaching, he has both the Father and the Son.
10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house, and do not give him a greeting,
11 for the one who gives him a greeting participates in his evil deeds.
Start from Pope Francis
I went to my synod meeting in 2022. We all wanted more tradition in the mass.
T L M
Same! And I’m 27
21 year old here, time for TLM
The people: Let's bring back Latin and chanting to mass
The Pope: let's evolve by banning those things and pushing gay agenda
At my largely Hispanic parish in Portland, Oregon. The synod meeting consisted of Anglos feeling an absence of community and wanting to bring in lgbt stuff. The Hispanics rejoiced in a wonderful sense of community and they rejected the modern sexual stuff entering the church.
“Start commanding and rebuking” THANK YOU MATT
ALSO see NEFARIOUS .. a 2023 Christian film that ties all this together.
Ephesians 5 : 11
"Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them."
Romans 12 : 21
"Do not be overcome by evil. but overcome evil with good."
Psalm 34 : 16
"but the face of the Lord is against those who do evil, to blot out their name from the earth."
John 3 : 19-21
'This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed. But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what they have done has been done in the sight of God."
James 4 : 4
"You adulterous people, don’t you know that friendship with the world means enmity against God? Therefore, anyone who chooses to be a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God."
Revelation 19 : 21
"The rest were killed with the sword coming out of the mouth of the rider on the horse, and all the birds gorged themselves on their flesh."
We need to absolutely rail against this at all costs
The harlot that sitting on the beast!!
Super saddening. However, I am hopeful for whoever will be pope next. It'll be an interesting period in history for sure.
Why? Do you not have confidence that the Holy Spirit is guiding this? Or, in Jesus' words, I will be with you to the end of time?
@@crazyedswonderfulworldofso9370The Holy Spirit is absolutely NOT guiding the Sunod process, sorry to bust your bubble. God is permitting this because we have free will.
Do any of you know what a synod is?
It's not a council and nothing discussed in it is binding.
It is an advisory board the Pope can call as per Canon Law.
The Pope can disregard everything said in it.
He has also invited very conservative voices to participate.
I wonder if Bishop Sheen was alive today, if he too would get a visit from Vatican officials and be removed from his priestly duties.
They're coming after him now aren't they? 🙏😢
I think the delay in his canonisation is appalling, the only motive for the delay would be that it would elevate his teachings and bring attention to his life’s work to those unfamiliar with him…which directly warns against and opposes exactly what is being imposed on us now by the hierarchy. He is already a saint in my eyes, he has gone through all the procedure for canonisation and delaying the ceremony is motivated by fear. Most Ven. Fulton Sheen, pray for us ✝️🕊
@tarn0031 The absolute LAST thing certain residents of the Vatican want right now is for more people to hear Bishop Sheen's words on "the ape of the church". It hits way too close to home.
I don't know but the Vatican would certainly schedule an Apostolic Visitation for Saint Paul if he were a member of the Church Militant on earth.
@@bksellers64 or St John the Baptist!
I think about the lead-up to Humanae Vitae, of how Pope St. Paul VI was meeting with liberal-leaning experts/prelates who were offering their best arguments possible for changing Church teaching on contraception. Many traditionalists at the time were worried that the Magisterium was about to go the way of the Anglicans, saying that contraception was okay for married couples. They were pleasantly surprised, however, when the Holy Father released Humanae Vitae, which is one of the most profound and complete refutations of contraception ever released. I pray that a similar phenomenon is happening with the Synod and homosexuality.
St Pope Paul's teaching was officially rejected by many bishops and most Catholics, who have been in schism ever since the release.
I pray this is the case!!
@@myleshagar9722 You mean a pontiff's teaching on morals? Backed up by the magisterium? Those who reject it have more in common with the "Trans movement" than the Catholic church.
By waiting 6 years before promulgating HV, Paul vi let the liberals rev up antagonism. He should have smashed the modernists in 1963, not 1968. Why take 6 years to simply proclaim catholic truth??
I have also been praying for this, that Francis is listening and talking many points of view to like a Jesuit would, but ultimately reaffirms Church teaching. Please God!
Was watching The Mission for the first time in years last week and there was an excellent line by Jeremy Irons' Jesuit (ironically enough) priest character that stood out to me:
"We are not members of a democracy, we are members of an order."
The sacrament of reconciliation and penance scenes in the film the Mission were so powerful, that the leader of a Protestant church converted because of this. I explained to a group of Protestants what it meant and described the role of a priest acting on behalf of the church to bring a person back into communion with the church because their sins were forgiven. The key to this is the proclamation that we believe that God is loving and merciful and forgives us if we truly repent. The murderer did not believe this. After performing his arduous penance climbing the waterfall carrying all his past baggage, and when he got to the top and the natives welcomed him and forgave him, I wept.
If we forget this message then we forget God. If we forget the sacrifice of Jesus Christ for our sins, then the Church no longer exists.
Orthodox here, praying for my Catholic brothers and sisters. We may not heal the schism anytime soon, but I hate to see y'all like this.
There is no need to heal the schism. The Roman church is too far gone being riddled with herasy and false teachings puffed up with the lie that it is the true Church. This is a wolf in sheep's clothing. They need to convert.
Same here. I feel like it’s a natural conclusion for Eastern Catholics to become Orthodox. And while I assume most won’t, I will pray for them.
@@JeremyWashington1489nothing has happened yet. The church hasnt changed its official teachings on homosexuality.
Invite them to Orthodoxy, rather than passively letting them languish.
@@premodernprejudices3027 the Orthodox Church cannot even hold and ecumenical council. Not all are in agreement or communion with each other.
We triumphed over Arianism, we will survive and defeat this new-age heresy as well.
Undoubtedly, although protestants such as myself would say you avoided arianism merely to stumble into paganism
@@m.d.sharpe8892Catholics are not pagans. You just don’t understand the Catholic faith.
@@johnbrion4565 typical
@@m.d.sharpe8892 it’s just true. You think Scott Hahn Keith nester John Bergsma Steve ray Tim staples and countless others would have converted if it was paganism? Scott Hahn was maybe the most anti Catholic ever to attend Gordon seminary. Will you look into his story or are you afraid it will get you to question your own belief system?
I fear not with Francis at the helm. He is too concerned about being all things to all people.
But remember, SSPX are the problem and shouldn't have a platform, right? lol
Correct they are in schism against Rome and reject Vatican II
Here in Argentina we have always known Jorge Bergoglio for what he truly is: a political operator. He's been very open about it and it pains me to see how many people across the world are still blind to it.
His title is Pope Francis. Please use it.
Time to stop using it! A Pope cannot welcome an artist who submerges a crucifix in urine!
Supreme Shaman Jorge Mario Bergoglio, SJ
@@matthewmorris9532emperor francis
A synod on sodomy.
The WORD is clear. God, not man.
Yeah. There seems to be missing a very frank discussion of what this is. I’ve been studying Theology of the Body to do with my teens and I think JP2’s framing of love vs use is spot on. When we frame homosexual marriage as separate from the physical act, we are ignoring the chief problem and that is that sodomy is using, not loving. I’d even consider it abusive because it is physically destructive.
I’m tired of the obviousness of equating love and sex. Fr Martin needs someone to tell him point blank that he isn’t talking about love, he’s talking about sex. They are not the same thing. Just because we feel sexual desire towards someone or something does not automatically mean we love them. There are a variety of ways that sexual desires can be disordered, and sexual expression is ONLY sanctified and turned into a tool to express love when it is used in accordance to God’s will: in an indissoluble marriage between a man and women that is open to life. Any another use of sexuality is by definition incapable of being an expression of love, no matter how much sophistry or sloganeering someone wants to use.
@@KayleePrince-we5pbno, love is a choice to will the good of the other. Your definition of love is indistinguishable from feelings of desire and attraction. Your mindset and worldview are exactly what has caused this problem. Just because you want to have sex with something and have “deep feelings” of attraction and desire doesn’t mean you love it, do you understand that?
@@KayleePrince-we5pbwhose dictionary? We are talking about Catholicism, Catholic definitions, and Catholic doctrine, and why acting on same sex attraction is not an act of love and never will be.
Similar to the debacle we had with Dennis Prager
@@m.d.sharpe8892 yup. People will twist reality and language into all kinds of pretzels to justify and rationalize sin
@@Seliz463Unfortunately for you a man can love another man in that way, so does a woman to another woman, your outdated worldview simply refuses to acknowledge it.
I'm not a trad, but the longer this nonsense goes on the more I understand them and feel like they are right. At this rate I may just end up joining them.
What are you waiting for , I started to go to TLM and fell robed from it for so many years 😢
@@jmm91910 maybe that there is no TLM anywhere near me. I generally avoid going to my local parish and instead attend Novus Ordo mass at a nearby Franciscan house of prayer. Yes it's Novus Ordo but the way they conduct it with so much reverence is way better than at my local parish.
BUT please DO NOT join the 'trads' who do all that sexual abuse.
It's not about the opinions of men it is about the truth of God.
@@christopherdowns2430 yes but that's the problem, that the church curia is consistently inching away from the truth of God and towards the opinion of men. And I don't like that, I can't condone that. Increasing the pope frowns on people like Ven. Fulton Sheen and blesses people who openly promote heresy and blasphemy like James Martin. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if James Martin were to die today that he would be declared a saint tomorrow. (mind you I don't wish him death in the least, only repentance)
"Pride mass" Lord have mercy...
For all this church's purported authority. It looks like the only thing that's going to be done about it is to invite them to the Vatican to sit w/ the liberal pope.
Francis is a Jesuit. James Martin is a Jesuit. Hollerich is a Jesuit.
I'm beginning to think this is a Jesuit conspiracy against the teachings of the Church.
You nailed it. The Jesuits are running and ruining the Catholic Church. They want another Church.
It’s a matter of people, especially Catholics need to learn and defend teaching to others the word of The Lord Jesus Christ. ♥️🙏♥️
Catholicism by and large is a false religion.
Agreed, but it's challenging when 90% or more of the bishops are straight up heretics or too cowardly to atabd against them.
Agreed .. and to see NEFARIOUS .. a 2023 Christian film that ties all this together.
I miss the good ol' days when Catholics and Protestants could argue about Transubstantiation. This just makes me disappointed at where the Mainstream is going, leaving the rest of us out of their Big Tent. I have Solidarity even with Roman Catholics against this assault of the wicked.
When the devil is at the door even feuding brothers unite
I care about theology as much as anyone but sometimes you have to put differences aside and team up for the greater good. This is one of those times. Modernist snakes much be rooted out of the church.
This is all so disturbing. Its like being on a sinking ship.
The Church will endure to the end. We were in a worse spot in the 300s and 1500s and survived.
''like being'' the ship will not sink, promise of the Lord Jesus Christ
They have the buildings but we have the faith! 🙏
Spoiler alert Jesus triumphs
Fear not.
Our Lady of Akita prophecied it "With the rosary pray for the Pope, bishops and the priests. The work of the devil will infiltrate even into the Church in such a way that one will see cardinals opposing cardinals, and bishops against other bishops."
That seems like a contradiction of the traditional Catholic view of Matthew 16:18-19.
@@EmberBright2077 no matthew 16:18 says that the gates of hell will not overcome which means it will not win but it doesnt mean that the gates of hell wont enter and try to destroy something
@@Tomislvo It just seems a little convenient, given that the Catholic interpretation generally claims that the Church cannot ever be wrong, since that would be the gates of Hades prevailing, but stuff like what's happening now is ok.
@@EmberBright2077 no it is obvious that the devil enters into the church and tries to destroy something but the gates of Hades wont overcome which means it wont win. Where does the catholic interpretation say that? Our doctrines are not wrong they are infallible just like the pope is on doctrines but what happens outside these doctrines can be evil like for example the synod in germany where they want to enable same sex marriage it will never be a doctrine but the devil tries everyhting to make it one but he will not overcome
@@EmberBright2077it's as fluent as the genders nowadays.
i think you all need to calm down, trust the process and the Spirit, and be charitable. stop encouraging schismatic behaviour.
Amen!
The moment fallen human coercion, manipulation, contrivance takes over, the spirit at work is not the Holy one.
@@myleshagar9722well then we’ve been screwed for two thousand years, because those spirits of evil have always been a part of fallen human nature. It’s okay, it’s been okay, and it will be okay. The gates of hell shall not prevail, remember?
@@Seliz463 amen to that! Christ teaches us that change is uncomfortable and that we might not always like or understand the path God is leading us down. We should follow Mary's example and have faith that the Lord's work is more powerful than our sin.
Hey Matt, this is just a suggestion but, how about a bunch of you (more influential Catholics) get together and coordinate something to encourage all your listeners to get in touch with our bishops in these matters? Like writing a letter that we can all sign individually, and send to our corresponding dioceses/bishops, stating that we are happy that the Catholic Church stays faithful to its teachings, that we don't need the Church to reject Tradition in favor of the Spiritus Mundi, etc. A well-organized plan of action will help people get moving, and maybe once we do this the Church will realize that we need her to stay above all these matters and keep teaching us to be better Christians, combat heresy, and evangelize others. The alphabet crowd is so noisy, that a part of the clergy may not realize that a majority of us will follow Jesus Christ and his bride until the end of times no matter what the rest of the world says. If they keep going this way, many more souls will be condemned... We should let them know how much we need the clergy to help us get to heaven. Anyway, maybe it's a silly idea but I think it's time we do something if they so want to hear what laypeople think. Thank you!
Praying for the church, and for all Christians to truly follow Jesus
See NEFARIOUS .. a 2023 Christian film that ties all this together.
I'm the editor for a "Catholic" podcast that recently discussed the Synod and how wonderful and inclusive it is and about their hopes that the Church will listen to the world and blah blah blah, I just about lost my mind with anger having to not only listen to the content but also be in charge of making it sound as good as possible...pray for my sanity please.
You know that you’re supporting the sin and being a coward to not speak up. I’m sure it’s hard, and I don’t know if you have a family to provide for, but we are in critical times right now. Courage and the willingness to suffer for Christ is critical. I’m going to pray for you to stand up for truth and do what’s right, and for the Lord to mitigate any consequences you may incur as a result. But even if those consequences are horrible, please remember what we are called to do
@@Seliz463 You're not wrong, and I do have a family to support. To be clear, they have not said anything that's actually sinful (as far as I know) just things that are vague, wrong headed and infuriatingly misinformed.
If the scales tip further you can rest assured I will no longer work for them.
@@47StormShadow good, and know that you’re being prayed for
Why are they doing this... There's a mountain of evidence showing that if we give them an inch, they take a mile. Are these bishops going to be giving blessings on removing genitals from adolescents next? Do they think that appeasing LGBT will make them come with open arms into the church? It's appalling
Never should have left Orthodoxy! 🤯
I will never reverence sodomy as love, Fr Martin. Thank you, Matt for your work. I take solace in knowing that Mary has warned us of these crazy times of “Bishops against Bishops”through many various apparitions. It would be tempting to despair but for her reassurance that her Immaculate Heart will triumph which is of course in perfect union with her Son’s Sacred Heart. I will be praying for this synod and praying the rosary for all of her intentions. Thank you, Matt, for your work and bringing these topics to the light for us to think about and pray about.
Cardinal Pell, pray for us. ❤
Conyers GA 1998 Oct 13th was one of the best and her final, after a span of 10 years of monthly apparitions. Massive cloud event, too, on that day!
He was reverencing the love they shared, not the sexual act, for the record. If someone thinks that two gay people get married simply to sodomize each other for the rest of their lives, they've probably never met or talked to such a couple.
@@marianweigh6411 I have known gay couples and love and appreciate them as persons very deeply. While I have enjoyed their friendship and company and recognize all the gifts they contribute to the world, I still think sodomy as a sin. I think it would be the same as a man or woman in a open marriage or polygamist relationship. Maybe those people involved would say it is not all about the sexual relationship and that the group loves each other very much. This may be true but it doesn’t change the fact that the sexual part of their relationship is indeed a part. Sodomy is a big part of it otherwise the couple would just be friends. To ignore or downplay the sodomy, a grave sin, and focus only on the companionship piece is a lie.
Cardinal Pell??? You mean the PEDO apologist??
@@sarahbarlow9104 do you know "sodomy" by its textual definition is also practiced by man-woman marriages, right? Even Catholics, I know it's kind of taboo to talk about that and husbands try to keep it in secret, but it's a pretty open secret
This and other similar issues have led my in-laws to Sedevacantism. It's so frustrating for me but I do understand when I hear of these issues going on today. Please pray for them. They love our Lord and want to do what's right.
I am sure a future council will formally condemn Bergoglio and his heresies.
@@artstocker60They will not. He has not taught any evil.
Absolutely. I don't blame sede vacantist at all. My heart goes out to them. They're good people who love Our Lord and they can't deal with what so called Priests and even Popes are doing to His church. I don't blame them one bit because it is an awful pill to swallow.
@@racheljames7 How so? They clearly don't know the tradition they seem to espouse.
@@carolynkimberly4021 He who abandons the See of Peter falsely believes himself to be a part of the Church -St. Cyprian
While I myself am not a Catholic, they are still 100% my brothers and sisters in Christ, and I will be praying for them and for God to cleanse the church of the corruption that's crept in. I had seen a few things about LGBT infiltrating various services, but I didn't know it was this bad until now. You'll all become a part of my prayers.
They cannot change it.
The badly hidden contemptuous smile is all one needs to know about Fr Martin.
There is no love in homosexual relationships. Period.
to me it is like looking in a mirror and falling in love with yourself. it is also sad how today the word love is so degraded by the world. and family and marriage as well. sad
Love of sin perhaps?
I guess you can say it's a disordered love. So it's not a sharing in God's rightous will and orderly divine love. Christ said to some approved saint or visionary( sorry I can't recall) that each evil act is generated out of a di sordered love for that act. Makes sense.
@@DB-qw6xq no I don’t love the sin
Thats not charitable or true. Love in relationships takes many different components - - sacrificial, agape (brotherly), philia (love of companionship. It is only the eros - - sexual love that is disordered in a homosexual relationship.
Now this can vary widely - - many homosexual relationships can be based mostly on or almost entirely on eros - - and a very disordered form of it. It seems in all ways more common that there is this extreme disorder in homosexual relationships. But it is not fair to say there is no "love" in homosexual relationships.
I've been working my way back to Catholcism for a while now and part of what is drawing me back was the perception at least of their more othadox stance. I really think it just isn't appreciated how powerful that is. Partly because it's pretty much taboo to make the case for more traditional teachings in most social settings these days. There is a C of E church much closer to my house, that i have attended several times. Its stunningly beautiful and full of history, but i find it such an awkward experience sitting through a service there. No challenge. And guess what, it's pretty much empty and i was virtually the only man in the place. If the Catholic Church does jump on this band wagon, it would be so disappointing. Its not going to draw ppl in, quite the opposite
Exactly, I can’t believe people don’t see it
The Episcopal church in my bag is a mixed bag. They've had several parishes convert to Catholic. The two closest to me are twinned and one of them isn't going to be used regularly anymore and the other is very poorly attended. On the other hand I attended a funeral at the Episcopal cathedral... all the music was the St. Louis Jesuit crew, and the basement chapel was extremely syncretic, featuring MLK, Junipero Serra, and Romero.
Please don’t lose faith brother/sister in Christ! There may come a time of chastisements one day but stay knowledgeable of the teachings of the doctors of the church. Thus, you can just keep in mind that when two theologians are fighting and one goes against what is taught by the doctors of the church regarding it, then that theologian is the odd one out. You can look up fr. Chad Ripperger’s conferences to learn more. He’s an exorcist, very knowledgeable man.
I've recently started adding a whole decade at the end of my daily rosary as a special intention to root out evil in the Church. I encourage you all to do the same.
I wish I had more time to start 54 day novenas to pray for these bishops to repent...
Isaiah 5,20 "Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter."
We are really facing trying times. So sad. 😢
but remember GOD wins in the end. frankie and martin are on the wrong side. they are on the loser's side. the devil knows he is the fallen angel and the eternal loser but he wants as many soul he can get so eternity for him will be one were he watch clergy like these suffer and cry as he sits and watches laugh at these fools who believe in all his words.
We have to pray that our father would end this madness
A friend just pinged me about this video. My reply: don't worry. The Catholic Church will not fall. Others may leave Her, but she's not changing anything. She can't. Don't play into the Devil's or his game.
I appreciate your input here. But I think you may have misunderstood Fradd's intention here. The purpose of this is not to frighten people or get them to think the Church will be subjected to the dominion of Satan. Rather, it is to highlight the truth of what the enemy is doing within the Church so that the people of God might serve as part of the means, through their prayers, fastings, and outcries, to achieve the end of always preserving the Church from the gates of hell prevailing against her. In other words, God uses the secondary means of free creatures for things which are nonetheless invincible as to the certitude of their outcome.
hey @@Erick_Ybarra ! Yep totally onboard with that. It didn’t come across that way though. My friend struggles with it and hearing Fr Martin gives him false hope or that the Church might change her position a la Anglican Church. Nope! Not at all!
@@JimCvit The Roman church has already changed her position on No Salvation Outside The Church, Suicide being an Unforgivable Sin, and the
Death Penalty. What makes you think she won’t change again?
I know a Catholic woman whose husband of 18 years started crossdressing and now lives with a man like himself. She's having difficulty getting an annulment!
Thats so messed up. Feel really sorry for her.
I’m so sorry for what this woman is going through, especially if there are children involved. But an annulment is granted based on the circumstances that occurred during the courtship and at the time of the marriage itself, including issues like their capacity to consent, whether there was any dishonesty that prevented a party from making a free decision, whether the faith formation of either person was severely lacking, etc. You can’t get an annulment based on what happens in the years after your marriage, it’s not the same thing as a legal divorce process. An annulment means the marriage was never valid in the first place. It’s not something you get granted because your spouse committed wrongs after you got married. If this woman’s marriage was validly entered into then she shouldn’t have an annulment granted. She would have to separate or even legally divorce to protect herself, but remain spiritually married to this man and continue to pray for him and his conversion.
@@Seliz463 It seems to me that if her ex-husband "knew" he had this identity issue from the start (he claims it is since childhood) that there's a level of deceit from the start. She's legally divorced but wants to fully be a part of her religion. And just by the way, her ex attends Catholic mass and takes communion, together with his crossdressing partner.
@@UteHeggenTranswidowHeals I don’t know the actual details, but I would say that unless he knew he had these issues at the time of their courtship and intentionally withheld that information from her, it wouldn’t be grounds for annulment. Many of these newly trans-identified types are claiming the bizarre stance that they’ve been this way since early childhood but simply repressed it and didn’t know how to acknowledge it until now. So that puts the annulment tribunal in a difficult position because it doesn’t point to intentional deception in a clean-cut way. All we can do is pray for her.
As far as her participating in her froth and receiving communion, there is nothing preventing her from doing so providing that she remains celibate. Getting a legal divorce for practical reasons of safety is not a sin. The sin is if she starts dating without an annulment. I see no reason why she cannot receive the Eucharist if she is being chaste and otherwise obeying the church and going to confession regularly.
As far as what her former spouse and his fellow sinner are doing, that’s reprehensible and wrong and the priest who is allowing it ought to be disciplined. But that’s got nothing to do with whether SHE can validly receive the Eucharist, so I’d encourage her not to worry about those people and just focus on praying for them and maintaining her own obedience and faithfulness. God is in control, He will handle this and all the unrepentant sinners will be held accountable to Him.
@@Seliz463 Intentional or not, it is de facto deception.
This process was only ever going one way. “Synodality” is just Francis’ version of “intersectionality”, a word that means nothing and yet can mean anything you want. I didn’t leave Protestantism for this!
How is that working for you these days? I'm trying to leave potentially inflammatory language out of my genuine question.
@@saintejeannedarc9460 I take one day at a time.
If only you had remained with us brother
@@m.d.sharpe8892 Catholic is still Christian, so he/she is still w/ us to a point. Just to a markedly different set of doctrines.
@@applin121 Have you found your walk w/ God has been deepened and that you have more peace under the heavy mantle of Catholicism?
God bless and reward dear Cardinal Pell . He was used as a scapegoat and suffered heroically in prison . Just before his ‘unexpected’ death , Cardinal Pell once again shows us his love of the Church and our Lord Jesus Christ. RIP +
He lost me in the first line with “his friend Mark and his husband.” Husband is reserved for Man and Wife. In a homosexual relationship it is called a “partner.” Do not allow them to alter and dismiss our language any further.
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@@robbiddlecombe8392 I honestly don’t care. I was simply mentioning how they refer to themselves. A common sense person knows that. BTW your hostile defense of gay marriage is not only unholy, but it makes you look super suspect🤔
…however, #husbandry is a legitimate non-nuptial term.
As someone who is trying to be a traditional Catholic I appreciate your openness and honesty when trying not to gaslight the situation. Stumbling out of secular political shows to Catholic TH-cam shows recently, I had no idea how much gaslighting there is on TH-cam in the Catholic sphere.
There’s a veritable industry around gaslighting Catholics by explaining away all these problems, assuring everyone that everything is fine, and telling people that only bad people are critical and criticize. People call such types “pope-splainers” because they’ll excuse and explain away any and all unconscionable and indefensible scandalous actions taken by this pontificate, which is utterly wicked.
Curious what you mean by this. Can you explain?
@@grasshoffers Just seams like some channels embellish or exaggerate drama in the church for clicks. Not naming any names specifically or accusing Matt
@@tc9459 - I agree and I do think Matt falls into this category more times than not. I find it most helpful to focus on the Church's documented teaching rather than relying on socialised interpretation through popular figures. Matt on many occasions (though no fault of his own) says things that are plainly false and you have to be discerning to be able to dig past that.
Pope francis sure knows how to pick them 😂😂
This is getting serious and it’s happening very fast. Straight heresy!
What's heresy? And who is committing it?
Francis Calls for dialogue, what does he fear of Traditionalist's being invited to the Synod? The truth is the Trads would crush his quagmire of Apostasy.
The trads are not the head of the church. People forget the church is a hierarchy not a democracy
Cardinal Meuhler was invited.
@@salvadorteran5181 The Church has condemned many times that it is a democracy, but yet many act as if it were. Christ, the Apostle and the Tradition of the Church reigns supreme. At this time the Trads have the true faith and would gladly give their lives for her. We are following 2000 years of guidance from the Holy Ghost. The problem is that heretics, and Apostate modernist heretics have dethroned Christ.
@@andrewangelopacheco9960 that's cute, but I believe Jesus when he said he will be with us until the end of times Matthew 28:19-20. Your thinking is what lead to the reform. The Pope is infalible and if you don't believe that dogma you are not catholic and you have excommunicated yourself
@@salvadorteran5181 For one Francis is not infallible as he is the 34th anti-Pope in the Church founded by Christ. He is a self serving man who according to his own countrymen is a power hungry man that when he attains power will not let go of it. Now what you believe Jesus said is not one passage that can be taken out of context. On that passage alone volumes have been written. My thinking is what the Modernist great Apostasy has done to the Church. They have done so much damage that only the promised miracle from Christ will rid us of the Modernist Apostasy.
But, yeah, the SSPX are the bad guys. 🙄
I just watched reason and theology. Everything's gonna be fine and there's absolutely nothing to worry about. Sarcasm intended.
Yes. I believe in the promises of Jesus to protect his church. If you did too then you wouldn’t have had a problem with what I said. But you can continue to walk down a path of despair and fear if you wish.
@@ReasonandTheologyHello, I am to believe in this that the gates of hell will not prevail, but does this mean that the church will not go through a series of trials and serious issues just as the Israelites? Does this not mean that while the gates of hell will not prevail, that they will seemingly come close? Thanks.
@@thenewrenaissance4180 yes. The church in every age goes through a series of trials. This age is no exception.
@@ReasonandTheology I didn't say that I did not believe in Christ's promises. I actually believe all the churches doctrine will be preserved no matter what. Just because I have; what I believe to be legitimate concerns; doesn't mean that I don't think that some evil men might try to use synods for extremely evil reasons. I also won't try to whitewash what certain leaders of the church are proposing concerning grave sin becoming somehow acceptable. Thanks
@@ReasonandTheology Thank you for responding.
So what Im understanding from this is (paraphrasing), Jesus' direct teaching that though the world will change with every age, God's word is absolute and for all time is to just be completely scrapped and tossed out because we need to pander to what the world wants in order to recognize Catholicism as an ok thing to be into... what happened to "We are in the world, but not of it. In God we live and move and have our being?"
Our Lady of Good Success from Ecuador said these days were coming! Were there! Pray for the church 🙏
Medieval Grindset. The Will of God will be done. Imma raise my family and continue to pray, but I will not sow faithlessness. It's like Jesus speaking to the storm.
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"No definitive position on these issues can be proposed." So you stand for nothing and leave your house open to the beasts in the night. We've fallen far since the days of the martyrs.
Does anyone still seriously think Marcel Lefebvre missed the mark when criticising the Vatican? He was prophetic.
Pray that God will use this Synod to call these men to repentance and true Faith! No one is beyond God's call (even some of these cardinals)... And imagine the souls that can be saved if all these men had a change of heart. I don't know what kind of miracle that would take, but let's all pray for it!
The results of the synodical process were preordained and the whole process is mere manipulation and theatre. We ex protestants know the drill. We saw it destroy our former denominations. This is depressingly familiar.
The Synod will unfortunately make things much much worse. It’s basically a party to validate each other in their sins….
A t the urging of Fr. Mark Goring, we sent a letter to our bishop at the beginning of this about holding fast to church traditions. He sent us a letter back which basically told us in corporate language to sit down and shut up.
It looks like that sadly will be happening more and more. When the pope is having sit downs w/ homosexual leaning parishes and priests, instead of standing up against it, that will be the fruit of it.
Not much of a surprise. The old guard is very liberal in church teachings. Soon they will be gone, and a new age of traditional church leaders will begin to emerge from the rubble left by their forefathers. It takes time, patience, and faith. So long as we continue to pressure those within the church currently, we will eventually win back our faith.
Sounds like your "bishop" is an apostate servant of satan.
@@jimma1432Francis is elevating liberals & defrocking actual Catholics. How will lower traditional Catholics be elevated by liberal, heretical "leadership"?
@@markoredano9141 The flock has to have the actual desire for change. The libs in the church, as in secular society, have no care if they lose money. At least not as long as they can trust fund along. They’ll either make the changes from social pressure from parishioners or from financial pressure. Either way, it won’t be willingly done. The best thing to do is have faith and pray. I’m confident they change will happen. The right moment just hasn’t happened yet.
I think the term "traditional" itself is problematic in so far as it now introduces the possibility of variation and deviation of faith as it is related to the gospel, in other words people can now go around in complete contradiction to biblical theology and merely call themselves "non-traditional" believers or Christians
I agree. Catholicism is traditional by definition.
There is one Orthodox Church 🥳
Fr. James Martin is absolutely the "least Catholic" priest I have ever encountered.
In an bygone era he would've been defrocked and excommunicated a long time ago.
There is not one thing "Catholic" about this apostate.
@@JW-cm2erI mean he's ordained and you're not, so...
@@EmberBright2077 That's not exactly a high bar to measure anything. Some of the most evil men who ever lived were "ordained".
@@JW-cm2er My point is that he would have more of a qualification and authority than you.
How can a sin be a "loving act"?
Non-denominational but praying that things get better and that the true stay strong
I'm a Pentecostal Christian. I felt the Holy Spirit tell me to pray for the Catholic Church a few months ago. I think this synod is why. I had always thought the Catholic Church was a false church. I've since learned there are still real Christians inside of the Catholic Church.
Faithful Catholics, we're praying for you. Please, hold the line. Be loud. Don't let the Catholic Church abandon Christ without a fight.
However we might feel about Rome’s theology, at the end of the day, there are 1.3 billion Catholics in the world. For the church in Rome to succumb to modernism would be a devastating blow to Christendom, no matter what denomination you are in. I agree with your sentiment. Let’s continue to pray for our friends in Rome.
Still beating up the trads even though they are being shown to be right!
They're not. The trads are an ideology that lacka nuance and charity.
@@matthewschmidt5069the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
@matthewschmidt5069 that's a strawman argument. The definition of charity is very loosey goosey in Liberal Catholic quarters. Remember, the Church was given to us by Christ to save our souls, not to give approval to our proclivities and concupiscence. Yes, Scrupulousity is a sin. Trads do have that problem, so do Liberal Catholics as shown by your comment.
@@markbrowne181 ... I dont think Liberal Catholics suffer with Scrupulosity anymore than Traditional Catholics do. I think you're projecting.
@markbrowne181 The trads are suspicious of Francis and Vatican II, which by definition is uncharitable since it's untruthful. Your labeling harms the body of Christ as well. We are called to be Catholic, not trad or lib
fr. Martin calls it a loving act.he is confusing sexual pleasure with true love.true love is God’s plan for man and woman.what fr.Martin calls love is self seeking passion,described by St. Paul as vice ,and sinful and far different from holy matrimonial love. that is the sober truth.
The issue that I had with the Synod was that the way our parish presented it was based on pre established questions that didn’t give us space to freely vocalize our opinions
It felt almost pointless and it felt like we were pigeon holed to a premeditated conversation
The whole concept of a “pride mass” is a horrific sacrifice. Offering the Holy Sacrifice to the Father in support of sin is wicked, knowing conducting mass in a state of the mortal sin of scandal while knowing handing the Body of Christ over to be consumed by people living openly in grave unrepentant sin is so inconceivably wretched and vile. It’s so wicked, why would you want to become a priest if you so desperately hate the Word of God and the teachings of His Church and want to change it to suit your own needs? Why would you stay Catholic???
thanks for making this video, Matt. We love your channel, and God bless you. I never thought the church would do these things. the one place I felt like I could be away from the world, now im seeing it happen in our world.
Judging by what I've heard, im not as sure that the greatest danger is a change in doctrine per se, but a mechanism for the laity to influence diocesan life in a way that makes doctrine irrelevant. Anyways, even that might not happen, so prayers are in order.
Taking issue with a term like “disordered” is reading into the word something that it isn’t trying to convey. Disordered means just that, “out of order.” It isn’t an indictment against the disordered person’s inherent dignity, but merely a description of an unnatural/sinful aspect of their disposition. One can be perfectly charitable to an SSA person, it is the *acting* on that disorder that we decry. It is thus to abstain or sin, and saying as much isn’t hatred of that person, but sound and sincere advice. The only people who refuse to understand this are those who want to bend heaven and earth to make it seem like acting on such a desire is perfectly permissible because it is their desire and nothing else.
That bit at the beginning... Does he think all love is sexual love? Does sex have to follow every sort of affection? We've just given up on reason and meaning.
The prideful type believe so. They are sinners and when they were lured into this shameful life, their worldview became twisted and corrupted. Sex and basic affection become one. Decadence becomes mandatory. Pray these people find their way back to the flock.
Try saying dont vote democrat and the bishop will take the parish off the priest .
We're called on to pray for the Church leaders. Fair enough. But these men seem pretty wedded to their earthly ideology and flesh over the spirit. Wasn't that the whole point of this weeks readings? How can anyone sit in a pew and listen to a priest who calls his flock homophobic and says love is love, and that the Church should treat sinful acts with reverence? If my priest came anywhere remotely close to spewing such heresy I would do what Christ told the disciples to do, get up and kick off the dust of the place. And what is their punishment for their false teaching? A seat at the table to discuss the evolution of the faith? I knew when they selected Pope Francis there would be trouble because of the left-wing nature of the tradition he came out of, and I wasn't even a practicing Catholic at the time. The chickens have come home to roost.
The hierarchy’s essence is to teach and rebuke. This isn’t falling short of “the spiritual works of mercy.” It the passive and even active promotion of heresy.
Why is the Church not cutting out this cancer? Remove the mouthpiece of the WOKE Apostates!!
Right is right, Wrong is wrong. Jesus doesn't accept anything else, its pretty clear in his ministry and teachings.
Francis, Benedict XVI, John Paul II etc. were notorious public heretics. A True Pope can't promulgate heresy by Divine Law. Therefore they can't be popes. We have a dogma called papal infalability :P I reccomend You do some research and find out about sedevacantism. Things will become much more clear for you. There are groups like CMRI, SSPV, RCI, IMBC, which are not in communion with this "new church" and preform Tridentine Mass, if you're interested. They have youtube chanels, like "true restoration" and "catholic family podcast". Kind regards.
I am not a Christian but thinking of converting. Eastern Orthodoxy seems like the only sane choice.
Glory be to God!
There are Orthodox priests who are also blessing gay couples, as well as defending contraceptives, etc. It's not unique to the Catholic Church, you just don't hear about it in the West.
The traditional and authentic Catholic faith is actually the best choice. Francis and his evil club don't represent the real Catholic Church; they represent the anti-Church.
Don't you think eastern orthodox are too liberal? They permit remarriages and contraception. I'm a Catholic from Russia and never understood that "muh based orthodoxy" myth...
@is8387 I don't hate the Catholic church by any means, but whether or not the Orthodox are "more liberal" isn't the question. The question is "is the Orthodox position the position of the early church?"
Cardinal Sarah: “The Church is not made to listen. She is made to teach…”
Pray for the Church and avoid sin folks. Detraction and cowardice are both vices. Know the truth, hold to it, and defend it.
That part was filmed on my bday 😃. This is a real scary time for Traditional Catholics 😳. Pray pray pray🙏🙏🙏. ❤ y’all, Kristy in Missouri 😃🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
We must treat sin as something NOT to be "allowed" but as disobedience to the Father and simply WRONG!!! Cut and dry. I don't understand what the debate is about. But what do I know - today we challenge the fact that men cannot menstruate!! Sick times where Satan is definitely getting more than his 15 minutes!!!
Started process to become Orthodox two months ago. It’s been two months of profound Peace.
Same. I’ve never felt more at peace spiritually in my life. I feel so sorry for my Latin brothers and sisters who are struggling with all these issues in Rome.
As an Orthodox avid listener of your podcasts I am saddened by this development that is world wide. It is shameful how this evil masquerading as love is infecting everything, even the Catholic church. I hope the Pope can stand firm against it. Maybe I'm wrong in thinking that there is no evil in him listening to confused bishops, but I hope he will still rebuke them as such- confused.
The Church of Rome must return to Orthodoxy while retaining its Traditional Latin rituals.
@@pvdp2 That sounds wonderful to me.
@@PetarStamenkovic Yes. If the Church of Rome officially removes the filioque, and recant the teachings on immaculate conception & purgatory, then those uniates will probably return to Eastern & Oriental Orthodoxy.
Well, the pope seems to be supporting the stuff. Two months later.
There is NO defense for this. Reason and Theology’s defense was very shameful and cowardly
Is it possible he wants them there to hear from them first-hand what their beliefs are, rather than going by internet clips alone? If they say the same things in front of Pope Francis, he would have to discipline them on the spot.
Unlikely. Pope Francis has praised James Martin before.
Burying your head in the sand and deluding yourself, as you are doing, won't make things better.
This is like Simon Peter looking to the Apostles to determine how to run the Church instead of Christ. We are on a sinking ship if the Church is more concerned with what the world has to say than Heaven.
This is sad!
But why? Woke Vatican??
Pray for our church, this pope has caused so much horrific damage
@@IllbedamnedifIainthandsome Really?!!! I personally have two loved ones that have rejected the Catholic Church because of this Pope!!! That to me is horrific!!! That is really an ignorant response!!!
I've been asking Benedict XVI to intercede for the failure of the German Synodal Way and that the Roman Synod not go off the tracks
Conchita got the warning for all of us: it begins after a synod.
Conchita is a false prophet.
The garabandal mensage is real.
Could you expand on this? Who is Conchita?
@@rubemartur8239 Unapproved by the Church
@@matthewschmidt5069Unapproved is passive though, allowing people to decide on a private devotion if they're convinced, like Medjugorje. If it were formally condemned that would be the signal to not look into it.
To verbally assaulting anyone who disagrees with him like calling people homophobic is abuse. No one is afraid of homosexuality. That's him trying to control people and have power over people. Abuse. We are called to repentance and speak TRUTH and Not lie
To do what Jesus wants us to do. Jesus doesn't tolerate sin. God doesn't tolerate sin. If you TRULY love someone you are called 8speak truth. Being good is not enough. Love is not sex not pride. Rainbow is not pride. The opposite of pride is HUMILITY.
The book of Revelation before your eyes. All this must come to pass before our Lord comes. Please Lord have mercy
Honest question... my brother's in christ... what's going to happen when the catholic church embraces homosexuality... ?
As an Orthodox I'm still impressed by the Roman Catholics fighting for what they perceive to be the truth. Good on you guys. I'll also say that we Orthodox are also fighting in our arena. We've also never lost Synodality :).
One struggle lol
Pope huh? You guys are funny still calling Jorge Pope. Shame on you
Yep. Bergoglio is not a Pope but a wolf in a Pope's robe.
I'll never understand people's insistence on being Catholic, despite disagreeing with millenia old teaching. If you want to support pride, cool, I guess, but why must you have your cake and eat it too? If Catholicism, and all of biblical Christianity for that matter, is wrong, why the desire to identify with it? If the gospel is false, there is no salvation in it, why uphold your cherrypicked version of it?
True. At this point it's no longer Christianity. It's a shoddy religion salad.
@@carolynkimberly4021 Hate watching is bad for your soul, sister.
The point is to actively undermine the church.
It’s a lot harder to do from the outside, so you get on the inside and destroy it from there.
@@martyfromnebraska1045 Yes, I think that's how pope Francis got in. I'm Christian, but not Catholic and I knew it was a very eerie thing that a poet colleague of mine was absolutely rooting for Francis. She was an atheist, ex Catholic, proud of being as far left as you can get, and ended up having an homosexual affair on her husband. There is is definitely a working from the inside.
@@saintejeannedarc9460
I’m not willing to say that’s the case with Francis, but there’s definitely well funded organization from people who hate the Church to radically change it from the inside.
It’s a miracle the Church has managed to maintain some of its positions for as long as it has.
Here's an idea, let's go to the scripture, find out what it says about this issue and act accordingly. I suggest Voddie Baucham speaking on this issue of homosexuality. It is explicitly clear through the inspired word this sin is not condoned as a way of living. What is next? Beastiality is accepted? Pedophilia? Freud is the one who gave the idea that sin is a disease. It is not. Sin is a choice. "I was born this way" is the call, but you open the door to the devil and soon it will be "I wanted to murder from a young age, so it is not my fault". "I wanted to be a thief from a young age, me bilking millions from the aged is how I was born, so I cannot be accountable". We are not seeing what tolerating this sin will bring down the road. 2nd Timothy tells us that all scripture is good...". Let us go back and really see what traditions the LORD gave HIS church, not the traditions given by men.
I remain as of yet Catholic, and I never was particularly traditional (neither were members of my family), I never even once in my life attended traditional latin mass... but these issues of the past years (marriage and orientation are really not the only ones sadly where I have had doubts) have steadily eroded my feeling that I am in the right place.
I have been considering leaving and perhaps exploring Orthodoxy, something I would have NEVER, ever considered years ago. Just the thought of putting away my rosary makes my heart ache and I tell myself that I cannot seriously be considering this, but I can't shake the feelings that we have erred and that we may have deluded ourselves thinking we were in the right all along, about what we teach and our unshakable faith that we ARE the only true Church, the one whose work is pleasing to our Lord, the one that is how the Lord intended and the one that is bearing good fruit. I can't know if I'm right or if I'm being tempted to head down towards the wrong path, maybe all these recent developments are right and pleasing to God, and I'm wrong to look at them with fear and to reject them, but this is such a powerful feeling that has been constantly gnawing at me for years, with more and more insistence.
If the Orthodox are wrong and I do end up leaving, I hope God can have mercy on me, but I can't recite the Creed anymore without feeling like a liar when I say that I believe in the Holy Catholic Church, with doubt stinging me every time and knowing that God obviously knows my heart. Sigh... There's not even an Orthodox church here for hundreds and hundreds of miles, there might not even be an actual Orthodox Christian living in that same radius at all. It sounds like madness, completely unreasonable and I don't even know why I'm even entertaining the thought, but I feel compelled to turn towards them. I do because I don't want to go to mass with reservations, I don't want to feel like an hypocrite about my faith.
Pray for me brothers and sisters if you can spare the time or the thought, because doubt got me really damn good on this one.
I think you're making the assumption that Orthodox Christians are less liberal. They're about as divided as the general populace, you're just not in the mix so you don't hear about it. Still with what you know is true and don't concern yourself with social movements. LGBTQI+ ideology will come and go, Catholicism is forever.
The Church’s teaching hasn’t changed and it won’t happen. Christ said that the Gates of Hell will never prevail against the Church. Prevail implies that there will be a battle, he wins! It’s clearly not in your heart to leave. Write letters, pray, do penance.
The young men I know going into seminary are all solid and orthodox, things will get better in the next 20 years. All the young priests I know are faithful to Church teaching and traditional. The subversives are old men from what I can tell, they’ll all be gone soon.
The devil really wants to use these situations to sow doubt, division, and confusion. May the Holy Spirit fill you with peace, and trust in Jesus and the Catholic Church He founded. It is a hospital for sinners, not a showroom for saints. The fact that the Catholic Church is still around in spite of so many sinners going astray -- that fuels my faith that God is working a miracle and is preserving His Church.
Francis, Benedict XVI, John Paul II etc. were notorious public heretics. A True Pope can't promulgate heresy by Divine Law. Therefore they can't be popes. We have a dogma called papal infalability :P I reccomend You do some research and find out about sedevacantism. Things will become much more clear for you. There are groups like CMRI, SSPV, RCI, IMBC, which are not in communion with this "new church" and preform Tridentine Mass, if you're interested. They have youtube chanels, like "true restoration" and "catholic family podcast". Kind regards.
@@johnnewburn4750Explain why the Pope himself is personally creating these situations - all going in one direction, heresy & worldly liberalization, OVER & OVER.
James Martin calls it loving act, to be revered. Christians who have read and studied the Holy Bible refer to such as fornication as well as to unmarried couples who live together in sin.Jesus toldthe woman being threatened with stoning “sln no more”. He didnt tell her sin with reverence.or that it’s such a loving act.l have been widowed since a long time ago. if l sleep with a man it is fornication, and offends God by breaking the sixth Commandment. No priest or Bishop can change God’s Laws, whatever pleasure is derived thereof! That twisting of the Law is called relativity and encourages persons to lead a sinful life,for which priests eould have to answer to God for their perverse interpretation
Looking forward to the popesplainers trying to justify this
There's nothing to explian, the Pope is the head of our church, we are simply laymen that has no part on these desicions expent from praying.
@@salvadorteran5181Honest question, what if the “pope” where to praise satan? Do we still have to accept and obey his commands?
@@DeathWatch-jh3yx that will never happen. The Holy Spirit would surely intervene. I recommend that you read Saint Bellarmine's controversies of the christian faith, and "about the roman pontiff" it will give you clarity that these types of controversies are not new, also read about the Popes from years 900-1000, they were waaaay worst than any of most recent area Popes, if Satan were to intervene in the holy seat, it would've been done already but the doctrine has NEVER been altered, and has always been remained free of heresy.
@@DeathWatch-jh3yx The pope brought a pagan idol into the church. A layman had to take it out and throw it away. Yep, they still have to obey and stay under the leadership of such a pope.
@@DeathWatch-jh3yx When has he done this?