Moore did not invent Glycon. Glycon was worshipped by an ancient roman cult that fell apart when it was revealed that Glycon was a literal hand puppet.
His politics mattered to him, but they should not matter to us if it means we deny ourselves wonderful characters, scenes, and overall stories. Ditko was no monster. He did not harm or abuse others. He was simply an artist working with what he knew and what he believed.
After Stan Lee died I was at my local comic book store discussing his death and brought up Steve Ditko. To my astonishment even the oldest of the men at the shop, who were in their 50's, didn't know who he was. I began telling them about his contributions to the creation of Spider-Man and other comics. They all told me that I was wrong and that Stan Lee wrote Spider-Man by himself. One of the men laughed at me and said that I was too young to know anything on the subject, and told me to, "go read my damn manga". R.I.P Steve Ditko you absolute fucking legend!
They're worse than that; They're know- nothings. They don't read or check out things themselves. Ditko had commented about Spider-Man & his work before he passed away. Check out issues of Wizard magazine around the time the 1st Spider-Man movie came out.
Funny, Ditko's citing of Aristotle later got used by The Question in JLU when he confronts Lex Luther. "Everything that exists has a specific nature. Each entity exists as something in particular and has characteristics that are part of what it is. A is A. And no matter what reality he calls home... Luther is Luther. If I am to save the world, your existence must come to end, before you take office."
TheBlues32 JL: Crisis on Two Worlds covered that. In that not only are they're realities where Luthor isn't evil, but one's where he's poor, handicapped or dead. The point Question makes is that no matter where he is, Luthor the tycoon, the egomaniac, the pro-humanity man, does not simply turn a new leaf because of one Presidential pardon.
@@1krani Indeed, and even if we take Earth-3 into account, which I don't think was a thing in the DCAU, one could say that no matter the universe, he's driven, ambitious, and super-intelligent. Just a thought.
Razör is easily one of my favorite TH-camrs. I really wish there were more unapologetic, firebrand figures in entertainment... especially in gaming and comics.
The death of Harlan Ellison was a big fucking loss for that reason. We need more mouthing off outside of the TH-cam comments sections by eloquent knowledgeable people who'll never pull punches. While we're at, we all need to boycott Marvel, including the films and crappy Netflix shows, because it's also important to put your money where your mouth is. People need to take back their art.
The death of Harlan Ellison was a big fucking loss for that reason. We need more mouthing off outside of the TH-cam comments sections by eloquent knowledgeable people who'll never pull punches. While we're at, we all need to boycott Marvel, including the films and crappy Netflix shows, because it's also important to put your money where your mouth is. People need to take back their art.
I wasn't even aware the Steve Ditko was still alive (definitely my bad). But make no mistake, we are mourning him now but in a few days expect anti Ditko articles coming out saying "we shouldn't immortalize him" how his views were "problematic". We already got a glimpse of this when the Dr. Strange movie came out and the press tried to throw him under the bus. We need to not let the comic industry be successful in burying his name. R.I.P Ditko.
I'm reminded of The Question's appearance in the JLU animated series, which was basically a love letter to Ditko, complete with referencing the "A is A" monologue. Fucking kicked ass.
What I always liked about the Question was the fact that he was a philosophical hero and not just a psychological one. Which might be one reason why they bastardized him so heartily in the modern era of comics.
Heather Antos tweeted about Ditko but said nothing political which is a challenge for her. Utterly clueless little girl. She was a nothing editor at Marvel and I bet only heard his name in passing. She has no idea he was the utter antithesis of everything she stood for and was infamous for as one of the worst editors Marvel has ever had. Yeah, and she's one of the few recent Marvel employees that actually commented! She's one of the people who would make Ditko turn in his grave!
Unfortunately Aubrey Sitterson of G.I. JOE fame for being cancelled before issue one actually hit the stands has tweeted a truly reprehensible message about Steve Ditko's political beliefs.
That's the kind of shit we were expecting. That it's Sitterson again isn't surprising. The man is a complete douchebag and morally reprehensible human being. I didn't care for all of Ditko's work myself but what I did love, I LOVED. It's a sad commentary on the comic book industry that non-lefties have to keep their mouths shut. The purile behavior really is coming from one side, isn't it? Sitterson shouldn't worry, though. He hasn't created anything of note himself and has burned bridges with fandom. He managed to sink a franchise, something only Kathleen Kennedy has recently done on a bigger scale! Meantime, Ditko's still one of the founders of the great Marvel mythos along with Jack Kirby and a half-dozen major creators. We'll remember Steve Ditko. Nobody will give a shit about Aubrey Sitterson a year from now. Heck, we're giving him more time than the turd deserves now!
The Question is still perhaps my favorite comic character and one of my favorite fictional characters period. Perfect time to reconnect and the revisit other Ditko ideas. Thank you Steve.
The funniest thing about Moore's attempted pisstake of Mr. A with Rorschach is that Rorschach turned out to be the most appealing and popular character in _Watchmen,_ and by far the most memorable. He's interesting and refreshing precisely because he DOESN'T reflect the bland conformity of modern "liberalism."
gurugeorge Another thing is the Cold War ended peacefully thanks to Reagan bankrupting the USSR, when everyone was saying the more aggressive foreign policy would lead to inevitable nuclear war. It makes Rorschach’s refusal to back down at the end not the ignoble end of a mad, raving lunatic, but the only sane man who refuses to be complicit with murder of innocents for the “greater good”.
@@gameragodzilla it's basically Moore stumbling overbackwards - and accidentally writing in what makes Objectivist heroes soo compelling as characters they do not compromise they are morale anchors that will not bend nor brake and put justice for the innocent above the feelings and excuses of the guilty.
Only an out of touch with reality liberal would think that a man who hunts down child ab users and is willing to die for the truth would be perceived by the general public as bad.
Amen. Ditko was an individualist to the hilt. Thank you, sir for defending his right to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Whatever The ____ He wanted to create on bristolboard.
R.I.P. Steve Ditko His work on Spider-man(along with Stan Lee) is honestly incredible. I believe that it also served inspiration for the Spectacular Spider-man cartoon(good show btw).
evangelian007 Oh, yes. One of the best Spider-Man cartoons. ...and then they went to "Ultimate Spider-Man". Just when Norman Osborn was exposed as the Green Goblin...
"American barking madness. Now excuse me while my already rich wife resorts to crowdfunding campaigns because she can't bare to listen to people who know how to count." -Neil Gaiman, thinker
i'm British and are very patriotic for my country. I just don't give a shit what the left thinks. I know we can be great again. After sticks and stones may break my bones but grow the fuck up words are just hot air.
I've been saying for years that Neil Gaiman is the most overrated writer of our times. Pretentious, condescending, with nothing interesting to say about the human condition or people in general; a very successful stunt writer with two or three tricks in his bag. There is a reason that all of his notable books involve mythology of one sort or another; his true gift is translating ancient myth into a form that pleases postmodern palates(i.e. illiterate, pretentious horseshit). He is the Alan Moore to my Razorfist; cannot fucking stand the sight of him. The sooner society forgets the existence of this not-even-vaguely intellectual or deep "thinker", the better.
Samuel Steingart This makes no sense.... Like GreenGearMood said. All jokes aside, a Chad it not something most people want to be..... The Question as a objectivist would not like Chads. But also, whats wrong with being a Virgin? And how does that apply to Rorschach, who might be the best thing in what i view is a not great Watchmen comic? Oh well back to other great memes i guess.
It's a shame that it took the death of a master of comic books to get another Razorfist vs Comics video. Godspeed Mr Ditko and thank you Razör celebrating the genius that is the post Marvel comics era of Ditko
I personally adore his run on Blue Beetle; Ted Kord being my favorite character of all time, with Ditko's interpretation being the best interpretation of the character.
I'd take it as a good sign, considering how they became polar opposites personality wise. But with how things have been going for Stan lately, this'll likely be some very sour news to swallow.
@@kevinhortachata9700 I imagine its what Randy Savage and Hulk Hogan felt about each other when they were on good terms i.e. they didn't forget the past but where happy to move on with their lives
To be fair, I think the same about my grandparents. I truly can't believe they're gone. The house they had was sold and I can't just waltz in whenever I want to. But I still FEEL I could. Like that's still my grandparent's house. The dude made some awesome things. Like my granddad did some awesome things. Let's just remember that shit and respect them for making the future that much brighter by what they did
I just finished reading his original Dr. Strange run, so hearing of his passing was a real punch to the balls. It is after watching your video that I realize just how much of a disservice I'm doing him by not reading his Mr. A work. Thank you Razor, and Godspeed, Mr. Ditko!
The original couple of issues of Spiderman helped to create my overall worldview. When he allowed the thief to escape when he could have stopped him, and the guy went on to murder Uncle Ben. That lesson hit hard and never went away.
Thanks 4 doing this video razor. Spiderman was the backbone of my childhood, and while I have not had the chance 2 read his runs yet, i am still blown away by the creativity that ditko exuded just by looking at panels. Sadly, but inevitably, he is now in comic book immortality, along with kirby, eisner, and colan. RIP Ditko. Thanks 4 your creations.
Good grief, I was wondering why I had a sudden urge to dig through my old Spider-Man collection this past week. I don't know whether I should be bothered by the coincidence, or guilty it took me this long to actually look into Steve Ditko's work. Rest in peace, man.
To be fair, he was one of the most important people in comic next to Stan Lee and his stories marked a bunch of generations whether you read them in the 70's/80's or through the 90's TV Superheroes show every Saturday morning. I remember first experiencing the Gwen Stacy Saga (the part where he lift that hunk of metal) in the 90's Spider-Man show. It was as epic in there as it was in the comic.
One of the Ditko creations that doesn't get much attention is Speedball. Gone are the politics of his more personal work, but it's a lot of fun and recalls an innocence that just disappeared in the dark and gritty 80's. I also really liked his much overlooked Dragon Lord in Marvel Spotlight, and the initial Shade The Changing Man for DC in the 70's. Such a thinker and, at the risk of throwing out and overused term, a true original.
Certainly not the edgy, prolific choice, agreed....but I like it because it's a throwback to his earliest days (and as I recall they even marketed it like that...'in the tradition of early Spider-man adventures' etc). If you look closely, I think Ditko is actually allowing some nostalgia to seep through his otherwise no-nonsense veneer, and that's a complete rarity for him. Also, Speedball is that catalyst for the entirety of Civil War, so hey... :)
It's simple it comes down what they are fighting for an objectivst hero fights for a world that won't need him anymore as it has gotten strong enough to stand up for itself a relavist hero fights to keep the world as is so they are always needed.
It's funny cause batman should be an objectivist hero with his undying commitment to law and order but the writers cucked him to a relativistic moral code to keep the villians alive for profit
Rorschach is nuts, sure, but the implication at the end of Watchmen is he was right and he WON. So what's Alan Moore's point? Steve Ditko made his art the way he wanted to and didn't compromise and for that alone I'll respect him forever.
Rorschach is disturbed because of his experiences but I wouldn't call him insane, honestly I found him one of the most admirable characters of Watchmen, in spite of his ultra-violent tendencies, because he knew the difference between objectively right or wrong actions. Unlike Veidt who couldn't see beyond his own ego and had no real empathy for "lesser" beings and only respected long dead conqeurors, and unlike Dr. Manhattan who saw everything as if he saw it for the first time, a naive god, who never truly made his own decisions but instead was a slave to instinct, emotion, and the strong personalities of those around him (aka Nixon and Veidt) much like a child. Rorschachs justice may have been severe, brutal, and driven by vengeance and rage but he never punished the innocent. No. Not even in the face of Armageddon. Never compromise.
If I recall, the Watchmen were supposed to be the Charlton heroes (Captain Atom - Dr. Manhattan, Blue Beetle - Nite Owl, etc) until legendary DC Editor Dick Giordano (a one time Charlton employee & perhaps didn't want to see what he helped make get shot down in flames after seeing the initial Watchmen proposal) suggested making new characters for Moore's story. Imagine finding out Peter Cannon Thunderbolt turning out to be the heel!
Guitar Anthony I don't think I would want to live in that reality where Steve Ditko's version of the Blue Bettle was given to Alan Moore to forever ruin
Oh, DC eventually ruined the Ditko Blue Beetle whether DC fans acknowledge this or not. I NEVER like the Jaime Reyes Blue Beetle or the fact DC allowed a comic to be written where a hero got his brains graphically blown out on a page. To me, that's when DC Comics' innocence died. That's one of the worst moments in their publishing history. Ironically, DC has "allowed" the Ted Kord Blue Beetle to have appearances in animation. He appeared in two episodes of Batman: The Brave and the Bold but died heroically trying to steer a rocket away from a city instead of getting his brains ignominously splattered in a madman's room. DC eventually did bring back Kord as the mentor to the current Blue Beetle, a character that just hasn't been embraced by fans no matter how DC tries to push that character.
AvengerII Um the death of Ted Kord was one of the best stories ever written and Ted went out defying Maxwell Lord in about as objectivist a way as he could standing by his convictions till the bitter end his will unbent by the psionic powers of Maxwell Lord it would have made Ditko proud as for Jamie Reyes you may have not of liked him but much like Miles Morales in Marvel he actually is quite loved as a character having a joe everyman quality to him that fans enjoy and back on how graphic the death was grow up dude comics are allowed to be dark and graphic hell some of the best ones are just that
Steve Ditko was an amazing talent who created my favorite super heroes of all time who will forever serve as reminders of what real heroes are The Question and The Blue Bettle Ted Kord
I understand what you mean, but the man co-created the most popular super hero in the world, people are gonna point to that before The Question and the other things you mention. And yes guys, do yourselves a favor and read the Spiderman '60s run (also the '70s), those were the best runs the character had.
I completely agree with you on Spider-Man. The Ditko run is all you need to understand that character. So, so many of the best concepts and villains were created by Ditko. NOBODY ELSE was as prolific on that character as Ditko was. It is SHAMEFUL Marvel never did a press release yesterday but it's an indication of how much they care for the people who built that company in the past!!!! If it's purely political and from personal spite, that company deserves to go out of business. Marvel is the WORST of the BIG TWO in terms of how it treats comic book professionals and generally ignores its past history. And it's a shame this is happening when the characters are arguably at the peak of their public recognition now!
I personally preffer Romita's style, but Ditko CREATED that universe, Romita had something to work with, Ditko just created a UNIVERSE out of thin air. About Marvel, they are just another fast food franchise under Disney's iron fist, they are just a shadow.
And Disney themselves has distanced the company from its creators. You have to literally read books by fans in the animation industry to learn anything about the artists who worked for Disney!!! Now, some of those fans inject vile hatred into the books and you have to separate those opinions from the facts. I tend to take the "Evil Walt" commentary lightly because it just doesn't jibe with what I've read and the personal experiences of people who actually WORKED with Walt Disney. It's also amazing how many of the prolific animators stayed with Disney 30 and sometimes well over 40 years! As far as Marvel goes, they've always shit on their creators in the past. There's been a time or two when Marvel execs DID try to do better by the writers and artists working for the company -- Jim Shooter doesn't get much credit for what he tried to do to get people benefits and more money for their work; he understood if you rewarded people, they WOULD do better work and you'd get higher sales! -- BUT the mentality of the people who've been in control of Marvel since the late 1980s is just -- Eccch!!! All the stuff Shooter instated was gone by the mid, late 1990s. From what you hear from comics creators today, Marvel is a sweatshop and they employ very low-paid people who have huge chips on their shoulders and it comes out in the new monthlies. The ideology of Marvel today is just diametrically opposed to the vast majority of people who enjoy reading comics books. I generally REFUSE to buy any Marvel Comic in principle that was published after the 1980s. I just generally DON'T like the Marvel Comics created after the 1980s ended! It's not to say I'm unaware of what DC did to Siegel and Shuster far in the past but there has been more concerted effort to do good by creators and settle with people faithfully in court than I've ever seen with Marvel. Razor told me Marvel did acknowledge Ditko in a Twitter remark but that's a two-second remark. DC made a press release about Ditko and I saw that on websites yesterday. Jim Lee AND Dan Didio did make remarks about Ditko. Nothing but compliments, too. There's a huge difference when a high-up company rep acknowledges the passing of a legendary creator versus an anonymous Twitter remark that a 5-year-old could have written! Typical for Marvel, yes, but it's still hisheartening...
Coleco 84 Just try not to groan at the attempts of grown men writing dialogue for teenagers. The slang they used would sometimes be out of date even when the issue was released, let alone today.
I think Moore's confusion about Rorschach's appeal derived more from the fact that Rorschach was a true outsider suffering from mental illness, maybe even borderline personality disorder, who had as much in common with Travis Bickle as with Batman. Don't get me wrong - Rorschach is a very appealing character because he is so uncompromising. As fun as Ditko's earlier stories were, Mr. A was a bit more extreme than, say, The Question. The Mr. A stories are actually much closer in spirit to what the leftist idealogues have been doing to Marvel and DC than Watchmen ever was. They are sermons, certainly not something that would normally be published in mainstream books meant to entertain. That said, I also think Mr. A is an appealing character. I think Ditko could have done a better job of crafting complex stories around the character, but Mr. A is as uncompromising as Rorschach. It's easy to respect uncompromising characters like that, even when you don't always agree with them. I believe Ditko's point in some of Mr. A's stories was that, when you're a victim of a serious crime, and you've got a gun to your head, you wouldn't mind someone like Mr. A walking in to save the day, even if it meant the person threatening to kill you was killed in your place. If that's true, then it's hard to argue the point.
1:02 That's always been my gripe with batman (along with the plagiarism). He only goes after villains to feel morally superior and good about himself and not to prevent more people from suffering the same fate as his parents and so many others.
Originally he wasn't like that, much more resolute and straightforward. When puzzled by contradictions in writing, take a look at the writer/s. And publishers: disarming of Batman was a business decision.
I've read every Spider-man comic drawn (and essentially co-written by) Steve Ditko and damn that stuff holds up. Fun plots, great characters, and next level designs. The man was a genius ahead of his time if there ever was one. I need to get into more of his other work as I really enjoy Dr. Strange and The Question in my admittedly limited experience with both.
as for the subject of Ditko: the man, the myth, the legend has been taken from us at a time where comics need people like him the most. I'm hoping more people take his works as inspiration for their own comics, I know I am
Goddamn, I'd forgot how pretentious Niel Gaiman can be. I enjoyed his work in the Lucifer run, but holy shit. Then again, what can you expect from a male feminist?
Well you can probably expect some sort of sexual harassment claim against Neil Gaiman in the future as is at least the minimum male feminists usually get accused of
That jab on Ditko's ideology by someone who was helming Spider-Man has to be one of the cringeist things I've ever seen. I didn't know this till today, Marvel can burn in hell.
This video is amazing. thank for pointing out Alan Moores pretentiousness and Ditkos genius. I hate how communists always tell me about how bad steve ditko was
The best line in the Watchmen was from Rorschach while in jail with a lot of the inmates he put there and stated to a bunch of them, "I'm not locked in here with you... you are locked in here with ME".
Some of those Mr. A panels those panels look straight out of Bioshock. I know they both are inspired by Ayn Rand, but I wonder if good ol' Ken Levine was a fan (or hater) of Ditko's works...
There was something so very unique about Steve Ditko. Much of his superhero work (including Spider-Man) looked like it belonged in a horror or crime comic. If it makes you feel better about the political divide, both Jim Starlin and J.M. Dematteis (admitted liberals) shared stories not only of his great talent, but about how decent of a man he was during personal encounters, upon hearing of his death. Some times respect crosses political the political divide as it should.
I actually never knew Ditko was an admirer of Ayn Rand and her moral philosophy. Imagine if an Objectivist were in the main-stream comic industry today... They'd probably be turned deaf from all the autistic screeching from their "peers." The only modern comic artist I can think of who identifies as an Objectivist would be Bosch Fawstein, who is far from mainstream, if not considered notorious, author and artist of "Pigman." He's also the one who won the "Draw Mohammad" contest in Texas a few years ago.
I never enjoyed his Charlton work as much as what he did at Marvel BUT the Ditko artwork on both the Question and Blue Beetle were inarguably cleaner than what he did on Spider-Man. It was just so much more crisp... His Spider-Man always had an eccentric quality to it but I never felt he put his best efforts into it after a while. I think Ditko became very disillusioned with Marvel and preferred to work with Charlton because they left him alone and let him do his thing! It's amazing ALL of Ditko's Charlton work was reprinted by DC Comics a few years ago. I've got those hardcovers. Even if they're NOT the best stories I've read, the artwork is among the best he did in that period on superhero comics.
Shy Steve, what a genius , first book of his I ever read was Blue Beetle and though I was young I still credit it with showing me that comics can not only be art but can be fascinating tales of ambiguity that I just didn't find anywhere else at that age.
I have liked The Question from Justice League Unlimited, but knew next to nothing about him. At least this makes him vastly more understandable and why he is such a great character. Could be wrong here, but it seems like Mr. A is an objective based version of The Shadow I guess.
Marvel Masterworks Spider-Man was the book that got me into comics. I eventually got a copy signed by Stan Lee, but even though I know he never signed stuff, I’d have loved to at least told Ditko how much it changed my life.
‘Ditko was drawing in as explosively unprecedented a manner as anyone in comics history, with an endlessly rich and startlingly fresh way of representing the human imagination, quirky and eldritch, groundedly appealing but profoundly unsettling, distinct and in every detail exhibiting a mind that was just not like everyone else’s.’ ~ Jeet Heer @NewRepublic via ReasonMagazine reason.com/blog/2018/07/07/steve-ditko-rip
I'll always respect someone who is uncompromising in their principles no matter the cost. For that, ill always respect Ditko. In the modern world, where apparently there's a price on everyones integrity, ppl like that shine a little brighter.
Comics are dead. Hell, most narrative media is dead. All we have are barely literate Cretins left (ex Ruin Johnson and Jar Jar Abrams). We need more classically educated Creators like Stephen Fry, the Monty Python crew, etc.
Art these days is less about exploring ideas, showing your skill etc. It's more about pandering to the masses by telling them exactly what they think they want to hear.
I'm sorry, and no disrespect intended, but that "...barely literate Cretans..." is a masterpiece of irony. _Cretins_ (Unless you have a grudge against Greeks)
For the non-Comics enthusiast, this may be incomprehensible "inside baseball..." For the rest of us, this is a brilliant appreciation of a brilliant talent.
Great point that I always make (in different terms), but nobody wants to acknowledge. Aggressive, dangerous human predators should be exterminated, not only because they deserve it, but because that will eliminate the dozens, hundreds, thousands, millions of additional victims that predator will harm in the future.
It's pretty fucked up to make a documentary "celebrating" a person, and then spend most of said documentary shitting on that person, without them even present to defend themselves. That's real cowardice right there.
The Question became Montoya from Batman and it was an ok story line. Never read it before 52 (the year without the big 3). I did enjoy the Question though for the short time he was alive in my reading time of DC. Edit: Uh oh, your video is problematic "a hero is a man at his best" but what about overweight valiant female superheros?
granted I'm not entirely objectivitist but I take it more of a virtue kind of thing. Oddly enough back in the silver age having characters both on the hero side and the villain side was not that uncommon in fact there is a whole trope for it call "Stout strength" tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/StoutStrength Heroic Version: tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BigFun Villainous version tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FatBastard Heroine specific: tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BigBeautifulWoman Typically Female Villain: tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BrawnHilda yeah contrary to popular belief the idea of overweight comic book characters villain or hero is not that new of a trope. Nor has there really been a lot of controversy on it till about the last 20 years or so. I blame the "dark and gritty Realism" movement which honestly I think has become code for post-modernist.
And Aubrey Sitterson decides to take a big steaming dump on him. Keep it classy DA ( and I don't mean Dumbledore's Army.) BTW the Question my favorite Charlton comics character. RIP Ditko you will be missed.
It is sad to hear Steve has died. I loved the Question character that was on JLA Unlimited. A friend & me saw the Watchmen movie. Everyone was saying how good it was, but we just thought it was marginally OK for Soft Core pr0n. We did think that Rorschach was the Hero of the story & were rooting for him.
I really can’t think of a single writer that manages to be both very pretentious and as shallow as Neil Gamien. Alan Moore is often good but too often just goes off the rails and makes little to no sense.
I lost it at “haggard hippie who worships a snake god calls Steve Ditko insane.”
Steve Ellis A snake god he invented all by himself no less. But he’s totally sane and not at all pants on head crazy.
I haven't heard that one but I heard he thinks he communicates with a demon called Asmodeus.
"Delve into a new philosophy"? A philosophy based on something that doesn't exist? Makes sense. Fucking hippies, man.
Moore did not invent Glycon. Glycon was worshipped by an ancient roman cult that fell apart when it was revealed that Glycon was a literal hand puppet.
His politics mattered to him, but they should not matter to us if it means we deny ourselves wonderful characters, scenes, and overall stories. Ditko was no monster. He did not harm or abuse others. He was simply an artist working with what he knew and what he believed.
After Stan Lee died I was at my local comic book store discussing his death and brought up Steve Ditko. To my astonishment even the oldest of the men at the shop, who were in their 50's, didn't know who he was. I began telling them about his contributions to the creation of Spider-Man and other comics. They all told me that I was wrong and that Stan Lee wrote Spider-Man by himself. One of the men laughed at me and said that I was too young to know anything on the subject, and told me to, "go read my damn manga". R.I.P Steve Ditko you absolute fucking legend!
That didn't happen.
@@AheadOfTheWolves what an ominous response. do I know you?
Normies: they come in all ages
They're worse than that; They're know- nothings. They don't read or check out things themselves. Ditko had commented about Spider-Man & his work before he passed away. Check out issues of Wizard magazine around the time the 1st Spider-Man movie came out.
Funny, Ditko's citing of Aristotle later got used by The Question in JLU when he confronts Lex Luther.
"Everything that exists has a specific nature. Each entity exists as something in particular and has characteristics that are part of what it is. A is A. And no matter what reality he calls home... Luther is Luther. If I am to save the world, your existence must come to end, before you take office."
J Sailer WELL...there are the realities where Luthor is NOT a sociopathic asshat...so he's a bit wrong there.
TheBlues32
JL: Crisis on Two Worlds covered that. In that not only are they're realities where Luthor isn't evil, but one's where he's poor, handicapped or dead.
The point Question makes is that no matter where he is, Luthor the tycoon, the egomaniac, the pro-humanity man, does not simply turn a new leaf because of one Presidential pardon.
Do you mean Green Arrow or am I not remembering Green Lantern right?
@@1krani Indeed, and even if we take Earth-3 into account, which I don't think was a thing in the DCAU, one could say that no matter the universe, he's driven, ambitious, and super-intelligent. Just a thought.
Razör is easily one of my favorite TH-camrs. I really wish there were more unapologetic, firebrand figures in entertainment... especially in gaming and comics.
I wish he'd do more political rants. I absolutely love those.
The death of Harlan Ellison was a big fucking loss for that reason. We need more mouthing off outside of the TH-cam comments sections by eloquent knowledgeable people who'll never pull punches. While we're at, we all need to boycott Marvel, including the films and crappy Netflix shows, because it's also important to put your money where your mouth is. People need to take back their art.
The death of Harlan Ellison was a big fucking loss for that reason. We need more mouthing off outside of the TH-cam comments sections by eloquent knowledgeable people who'll never pull punches. While we're at, we all need to boycott Marvel, including the films and crappy Netflix shows, because it's also important to put your money where your mouth is. People need to take back their art.
I wasn't even aware the Steve Ditko was still alive (definitely my bad). But make no mistake, we are mourning him now but in a few days expect anti Ditko articles coming out saying "we shouldn't immortalize him" how his views were "problematic". We already got a glimpse of this when the Dr. Strange movie came out and the press tried to throw him under the bus. We need to not let the comic industry be successful in burying his name. R.I.P Ditko.
nightwishfan1991 A few days? No, I'm sorry to say that Aubrey sitterson has already started in on Ditko's political beliefs.
Lord Ruxlin Hogie only a matter of time before the vultures swooped in.
I'm reminded of The Question's appearance in the JLU animated series, which was basically a love letter to Ditko, complete with referencing the "A is A" monologue. Fucking kicked ass.
What I always liked about the Question was the fact that he was a philosophical hero and not just a psychological one. Which might be one reason why they bastardized him so heartily in the modern era of comics.
So far the political comments on Ditko's passing are at a minimal. That's a plus. He was one of a kind. A true artist. One of the greats.
Heather Antos tweeted about Ditko but said nothing political which is a challenge for her.
Utterly clueless little girl. She was a nothing editor at Marvel and I bet only heard his name in passing.
She has no idea he was the utter antithesis of everything she stood for and was infamous for as one of the worst editors Marvel has ever had.
Yeah, and she's one of the few recent Marvel employees that actually commented!
She's one of the people who would make Ditko turn in his grave!
Unfortunately Aubrey Sitterson of G.I. JOE fame for being cancelled before issue one actually hit the stands has tweeted a truly reprehensible message about Steve Ditko's political beliefs.
That's the kind of shit we were expecting.
That it's Sitterson again isn't surprising.
The man is a complete douchebag and morally reprehensible human being.
I didn't care for all of Ditko's work myself but what I did love, I LOVED.
It's a sad commentary on the comic book industry that non-lefties have to keep their mouths shut.
The purile behavior really is coming from one side, isn't it?
Sitterson shouldn't worry, though. He hasn't created anything of note himself and has burned bridges with fandom. He managed to sink a franchise, something only Kathleen Kennedy has recently done on a bigger scale!
Meantime, Ditko's still one of the founders of the great Marvel mythos along with Jack Kirby and a half-dozen major creators. We'll remember Steve Ditko.
Nobody will give a shit about Aubrey Sitterson a year from now. Heck, we're giving him more time than the turd deserves now!
Timothy Dexter Do you fuckin spergs have to make everything about your hatred of leftists.
Dumb fuckin gamers.
The Question is still perhaps my favorite comic character and one of my favorite fictional characters period. Perfect time to reconnect and the revisit other Ditko ideas.
Thank you Steve.
The funniest thing about Moore's attempted pisstake of Mr. A with Rorschach is that Rorschach turned out to be the most appealing and popular character in _Watchmen,_ and by far the most memorable. He's interesting and refreshing precisely because he DOESN'T reflect the bland conformity of modern "liberalism."
gurugeorge Another thing is the Cold War ended peacefully thanks to Reagan bankrupting the USSR, when everyone was saying the more aggressive foreign policy would lead to inevitable nuclear war.
It makes Rorschach’s refusal to back down at the end not the ignoble end of a mad, raving lunatic, but the only sane man who refuses to be complicit with murder of innocents for the “greater good”.
@@gameragodzilla it's basically Moore stumbling overbackwards - and accidentally writing in what makes Objectivist heroes soo compelling as characters they do not compromise they are morale anchors that will not bend nor brake and put justice for the innocent above the feelings and excuses of the guilty.
It IS a shame that he was a rampant homophobe and misogynist, though. But, other than that, I agree.
@@RocMegamanX Phobes and inists... those words doesn't mean anything, in case you were trying to make a critique.
Only an out of touch with reality liberal would think that a man who hunts down child ab users and is willing to die for the truth would be perceived by the general public as bad.
Amen. Ditko was an individualist to the hilt. Thank you, sir for defending his right to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Whatever The ____ He wanted to create on bristolboard.
A legend has died. Steve Ditko was an amazing writer and artist that will always have a place among the Comicbook greats. May he Rest In Peace.
R.I.P. Steve Ditko
His work on Spider-man(along with Stan Lee) is honestly incredible. I believe that it also served inspiration for the Spectacular Spider-man cartoon(good show btw).
evangelian007 Oh, yes. One of the best Spider-Man cartoons. ...and then they went to "Ultimate Spider-Man". Just when Norman Osborn was exposed as the Green Goblin...
evangelian007
Watched all of it:
Was bloody awesome.
"American barking madness. Now excuse me while my already rich wife resorts to crowdfunding campaigns because she can't bare to listen to people who know how to count." -Neil Gaiman, thinker
200 years later and England still cant get over being smoked by a militia
Yeah, it sucks because I'm British and WANT to be patriotic but my country makes it so difficult.
you forget to add the french into the mix.
i'm British and are very patriotic for my country. I just don't give a shit what the left thinks. I know we can be great again. After sticks and stones may break my bones but grow the fuck up words are just hot air.
I've been saying for years that Neil Gaiman is the most overrated writer of our times. Pretentious, condescending, with nothing interesting to say about the human condition or people in general; a very successful stunt writer with two or three tricks in his bag. There is a reason that all of his notable books involve mythology of one sort or another; his true gift is translating ancient myth into a form that pleases postmodern palates(i.e. illiterate, pretentious horseshit).
He is the Alan Moore to my Razorfist; cannot fucking stand the sight of him.
The sooner society forgets the existence of this not-even-vaguely intellectual or deep "thinker", the better.
Chad Question vs Virgin Rorschach
Pls.
Chads are not good things.
A Chad is NOT Mad Max.
A Chad IS Vanilla Ice.
Samuel Steingart This makes no sense.... Like GreenGearMood said.
All jokes aside, a Chad it not something most people want to be..... The Question as a objectivist would not like Chads. But also, whats wrong with being a Virgin? And how does that apply to Rorschach, who might be the best thing in what i view is a not great Watchmen comic?
Oh well back to other great memes i guess.
I’m just being a dumbass with this meme. I mean nothing with this.
It's a shame that it took the death of a master of comic books to get another Razorfist vs Comics video. Godspeed Mr Ditko and thank you Razör celebrating the genius that is the post Marvel comics era of Ditko
I personally adore his run on Blue Beetle; Ted Kord being my favorite character of all time, with Ditko's interpretation being the best interpretation of the character.
I've often wondered how Lee and Ditko view each other these days. Always seemed a shame to me that the backbone of Marvel's silver age broke apart.
crossbones116 apparently when he was asked about their relationship a few years back Ditko said "we're peaceful" whatever that means
I'd take it as a good sign, considering how they became polar opposites personality wise. But with how things have been going for Stan lately, this'll likely be some very sour news to swallow.
@@kevinhortachata9700 I imagine its what Randy Savage and Hulk Hogan felt about each other when they were on good terms i.e. they didn't forget the past but where happy to move on with their lives
I can’t believe Steve ditko is gone :(
Tevya Smolka
His achievements will live on long after we are gone.
i can't believe Steve Ditko was still alive
yeah that's true
To be fair, I think the same about my grandparents. I truly can't believe they're gone. The house they had was sold and I can't just waltz in whenever I want to. But I still FEEL I could. Like that's still my grandparent's house.
The dude made some awesome things. Like my granddad did some awesome things. Let's just remember that shit and respect them for making the future that much brighter by what they did
I just finished reading his original Dr. Strange run, so hearing of his passing was a real punch to the balls. It is after watching your video that I realize just how much of a disservice I'm doing him by not reading his Mr. A work. Thank you Razor, and Godspeed, Mr. Ditko!
The original couple of issues of Spiderman helped to create my overall worldview. When he allowed the thief to escape when he could have stopped him, and the guy went on to murder Uncle Ben. That lesson hit hard and never went away.
Mr.A: Literally the concept of objective philosophy taken form.
Rest in Peace Mr.Ditko,God knows we need someone like you in comic books today.
He brought us dr strange? God bless that man!
"Co-created"
Thanks 4 doing this video razor. Spiderman was the backbone of my childhood, and while I have not had the chance 2 read his runs yet, i am still blown away by the creativity that ditko exuded just by looking at panels.
Sadly, but inevitably, he is now in comic book immortality, along with kirby, eisner, and colan.
RIP Ditko. Thanks 4 your creations.
We lost a great man when Steve Ditko passed. Thank you, Razor, for this wonderful tribute.
Rest In Peace and thank you for everything, Mr. Ditko.
Good grief, I was wondering why I had a sudden urge to dig through my old Spider-Man collection this past week. I don't know whether I should be bothered by the coincidence, or guilty it took me this long to actually look into Steve Ditko's work. Rest in peace, man.
You got this out quick, great tribute.
Endless Jess fancy seeing you here
To be fair, he was one of the most important people in comic next to Stan Lee and his stories marked a bunch of generations whether you read them in the 70's/80's or through the 90's TV Superheroes show every Saturday morning.
I remember first experiencing the Gwen Stacy Saga (the part where he lift that hunk of metal) in the 90's Spider-Man show. It was as epic in there as it was in the comic.
Some of the first comics I remember reading were the original Spider Man. Never realized how lucky I was.
One of the Ditko creations that doesn't get much attention is Speedball. Gone are the politics of his more personal work, but it's a lot of fun and recalls an innocence that just disappeared in the dark and gritty 80's. I also really liked his much overlooked Dragon Lord in Marvel Spotlight, and the initial Shade The Changing Man for DC in the 70's.
Such a thinker and, at the risk of throwing out and overused term, a true original.
dfcsons ...Speedball? Really?
Certainly not the edgy, prolific choice, agreed....but I like it because it's a throwback to his earliest days (and as I recall they even marketed it like that...'in the tradition of early Spider-man adventures' etc). If you look closely, I think Ditko is actually allowing some nostalgia to seep through his otherwise no-nonsense veneer, and that's a complete rarity for him.
Also, Speedball is that catalyst for the entirety of Civil War, so hey... :)
One area we definitively agree on is how much better objectivist heroes are in comparison to the whiney, relativist ones that are published now.
It's simple it comes down what they are fighting for an objectivst hero fights for a world that won't need him anymore as it has gotten strong enough to stand up for itself a relavist hero fights to keep the world as is so they are always needed.
It's funny cause batman should be an objectivist hero with his undying commitment to law and order but the writers cucked him to a relativistic moral code to keep the villians alive for profit
Razor, I'd love it if you would make another video about Mr. Ditko's work and philosophies. Thanks for the great work as usual!
Rorschach is nuts, sure, but the implication at the end of Watchmen is he was right and he WON. So what's Alan Moore's point? Steve Ditko made his art the way he wanted to and didn't compromise and for that alone I'll respect him forever.
Rorschach is disturbed because of his experiences but I wouldn't call him insane, honestly I found him one of the most admirable characters of Watchmen, in spite of his ultra-violent tendencies, because he knew the difference between objectively right or wrong actions. Unlike Veidt who couldn't see beyond his own ego and had no real empathy for "lesser" beings and only respected long dead conqeurors, and unlike Dr. Manhattan who saw everything as if he saw it for the first time, a naive god, who never truly made his own decisions but instead was a slave to instinct, emotion, and the strong personalities of those around him (aka Nixon and Veidt) much like a child. Rorschachs justice may have been severe, brutal, and driven by vengeance and rage but he never punished the innocent.
No. Not even in the face of Armageddon. Never compromise.
God damn I've watched this video a million times and it never fails to get me pumped. Thought I was the only one who still appreciated Ditko
Fuck. This legit made me cry. Ditko was a god damn legend. No way comics would have had the same impact on the American psyche without him.
A true legend who will always be remembered and revered.
Farewell, good sir.
"No one gets the unearned".
hoodakey
Great quote
He's had a long and fruitful life! I love his art style!
Steve Ditko also co-created "Dark Dominion" with Jim Shooter in the 90's. One of my favorite Defiant titles. Thanks Steve, R.I.P.
If I recall, the Watchmen were supposed to be the Charlton heroes (Captain Atom - Dr. Manhattan, Blue Beetle - Nite Owl, etc) until legendary DC Editor Dick Giordano (a one time Charlton employee & perhaps didn't want to see what he helped make get shot down in flames after seeing the initial Watchmen proposal) suggested making new characters for Moore's story. Imagine finding out Peter Cannon Thunderbolt turning out to be the heel!
Guitar Anthony yep, Question was part of that collection as well.
Guitar Anthony I don't think I would want to live in that reality where Steve Ditko's version of the Blue Bettle was given to Alan Moore to forever ruin
Oh, DC eventually ruined the Ditko Blue Beetle whether DC fans acknowledge this or not.
I NEVER like the Jaime Reyes Blue Beetle or the fact DC allowed a comic to be written where a hero got his brains graphically blown out on a page.
To me, that's when DC Comics' innocence died. That's one of the worst moments in their publishing history.
Ironically, DC has "allowed" the Ted Kord Blue Beetle to have appearances in animation. He appeared in two episodes of Batman: The Brave and the Bold but died heroically trying to steer a rocket away from a city instead of getting his brains ignominously splattered in a madman's room.
DC eventually did bring back Kord as the mentor to the current Blue Beetle, a character that just hasn't been embraced by fans no matter how DC tries to push that character.
AvengerII Um the death of Ted Kord was one of the best stories ever written and Ted went out defying Maxwell Lord in about as objectivist a way as he could standing by his convictions till the bitter end his will unbent by the psionic powers of Maxwell Lord it would have made Ditko proud as for Jamie Reyes you may have not of liked him but much like Miles Morales in Marvel he actually is quite loved as a character having a joe everyman quality to him that fans enjoy and back on how graphic the death was grow up dude comics are allowed to be dark and graphic hell some of the best ones are just that
chris campbell Alan Moore is quite a liar of note
Steve Ditko, the J.D. Salinger of comics. He will be missed.
Steve Ditko was an amazing talent who created my favorite super heroes of all time who will forever serve as reminders of what real heroes are The Question and The Blue Bettle Ted Kord
I understand what you mean, but the man co-created the most popular super hero in the world, people are gonna point to that before The Question and the other things you mention.
And yes guys, do yourselves a favor and read the Spiderman '60s run (also the '70s), those were the best runs the character had.
I completely agree with you on Spider-Man.
The Ditko run is all you need to understand that character. So, so many of the best concepts and villains were created by Ditko. NOBODY ELSE was as prolific on that character as Ditko was.
It is SHAMEFUL Marvel never did a press release yesterday but it's an indication of how much they care for the people who built that company in the past!!!!
If it's purely political and from personal spite, that company deserves to go out of business.
Marvel is the WORST of the BIG TWO in terms of how it treats comic book professionals and generally ignores its past history. And it's a shame this is happening when the characters are arguably at the peak of their public recognition now!
I personally preffer Romita's style, but Ditko CREATED that universe, Romita had something to work with, Ditko just created a UNIVERSE out of thin air.
About Marvel, they are just another fast food franchise under Disney's iron fist, they are just a shadow.
And Disney themselves has distanced the company from its creators.
You have to literally read books by fans in the animation industry to learn anything about the artists who worked for Disney!!!
Now, some of those fans inject vile hatred into the books and you have to separate those opinions from the facts. I tend to take the "Evil Walt" commentary lightly because it just doesn't jibe with what I've read and the personal experiences of people who actually WORKED with Walt Disney. It's also amazing how many of the prolific animators stayed with Disney 30 and sometimes well over 40 years!
As far as Marvel goes, they've always shit on their creators in the past. There's been a time or two when Marvel execs DID try to do better by the writers and artists working for the company -- Jim Shooter doesn't get much credit for what he tried to do to get people benefits and more money for their work; he understood if you rewarded people, they WOULD do better work and you'd get higher sales! -- BUT the mentality of the people who've been in control of Marvel since the late 1980s is just -- Eccch!!! All the stuff Shooter instated was gone by the mid, late 1990s. From what you hear from comics creators today, Marvel is a sweatshop and they employ very low-paid people who have huge chips on their shoulders and it comes out in the new monthlies. The ideology of Marvel today is just diametrically opposed to the vast majority of people who enjoy reading comics books. I generally REFUSE to buy any Marvel Comic in principle that was published after the 1980s. I just generally DON'T like the Marvel Comics created after the 1980s ended!
It's not to say I'm unaware of what DC did to Siegel and Shuster far in the past but there has been more concerted effort to do good by creators and settle with people faithfully in court than I've ever seen with Marvel.
Razor told me Marvel did acknowledge Ditko in a Twitter remark but that's a two-second remark.
DC made a press release about Ditko and I saw that on websites yesterday. Jim Lee AND Dan Didio did make remarks about Ditko. Nothing but compliments, too.
There's a huge difference when a high-up company rep acknowledges the passing of a legendary creator versus an anonymous Twitter remark that a 5-year-old could have written!
Typical for Marvel, yes, but it's still hisheartening...
Coleco 84 Just try not to groan at the attempts of grown men writing dialogue for teenagers. The slang they used would sometimes be out of date even when the issue was released, let alone today.
Yeah, I prefer Romita's style, too. Especially with Spiderman. @@Jose-se9pu
I think Moore's confusion about Rorschach's appeal derived more from the fact that Rorschach was a true outsider suffering from mental illness, maybe even borderline personality disorder, who had as much in common with Travis Bickle as with Batman. Don't get me wrong - Rorschach is a very appealing character because he is so uncompromising.
As fun as Ditko's earlier stories were, Mr. A was a bit more extreme than, say, The Question. The Mr. A stories are actually much closer in spirit to what the leftist idealogues have been doing to Marvel and DC than Watchmen ever was. They are sermons, certainly not something that would normally be published in mainstream books meant to entertain.
That said, I also think Mr. A is an appealing character. I think Ditko could have done a better job of crafting complex stories around the character, but Mr. A is as uncompromising as Rorschach. It's easy to respect uncompromising characters like that, even when you don't always agree with them.
I believe Ditko's point in some of Mr. A's stories was that, when you're a victim of a serious crime, and you've got a gun to your head, you wouldn't mind someone like Mr. A walking in to save the day, even if it meant the person threatening to kill you was killed in your place. If that's true, then it's hard to argue the point.
What I was thinking
1:02 That's always been my gripe with batman (along with the plagiarism). He only goes after villains to feel morally superior and good about himself and not to prevent more people from suffering the same fate as his parents and so many others.
Originally he wasn't like that, much more resolute and straightforward.
When puzzled by contradictions in writing, take a look at the writer/s. And publishers: disarming of Batman was a business decision.
I've read every Spider-man comic drawn (and essentially co-written by) Steve Ditko and damn that stuff holds up. Fun plots, great characters, and next level designs. The man was a genius ahead of his time if there ever was one. I need to get into more of his other work as I really enjoy Dr. Strange and The Question in my admittedly limited experience with both.
as for the subject of Ditko: the man, the myth, the legend has been taken from us at a time where comics need people like him the most. I'm hoping more people take his works as inspiration for their own comics, I know I am
I am not a very big comic book fan and have never heard of ditko, but from your description he seems like a great artist, I hope he rests in peace.
Goddamn, I'd forgot how pretentious Niel Gaiman can be.
I enjoyed his work in the Lucifer run, but holy shit.
Then again, what can you expect from a male feminist?
Well you can probably expect some sort of sexual harassment claim against Neil Gaiman in the future as is at least the minimum male feminists usually get accused of
Micah
I wonder how long before a feminist accuses him of sexual misconduct.
I felt like he appreciating the artistic Marit of Mr A than just commenting on the poltics unlike moore who was just strawmanning
That jab on Ditko's ideology by someone who was helming Spider-Man has to be one of the cringeist things I've ever seen. I didn't know this till today, Marvel can burn in hell.
This video is amazing. thank for pointing out Alan Moores pretentiousness and Ditkos genius. I hate how communists always tell me about how bad steve ditko was
Spider-Man is my favourite supehero and his iconic look is due to the great Steve Ditko May he rest in peace.
God speed Ditko.
The best line in the Watchmen was from Rorschach while in jail with a lot of the inmates he put there and stated to a bunch of them, "I'm not locked in here with you... you are locked in here with ME".
Some of those Mr. A panels those panels look straight out of Bioshock. I know they both are inspired by Ayn Rand, but I wonder if good ol' Ken Levine was a fan (or hater) of Ditko's works...
There was something so very unique about Steve Ditko. Much of his superhero work (including Spider-Man) looked like it belonged in a horror or crime comic.
If it makes you feel better about the political divide, both Jim Starlin and J.M. Dematteis (admitted liberals) shared stories not only of his great talent, but about how decent of a man he was during personal encounters, upon hearing of his death. Some times respect crosses political the political divide as it should.
Sad he is gone. He made my Favorite character The Question.
The Question was my favorite in justice league.
No one asked for Jonathan Ross, not even his child.
The Widow's Son oh shit!
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I actually never knew Ditko was an admirer of Ayn Rand and her moral philosophy.
Imagine if an Objectivist were in the main-stream comic industry today... They'd probably be turned deaf from all the autistic screeching from their "peers." The only modern comic artist I can think of who identifies as an Objectivist would be Bosch Fawstein, who is far from mainstream, if not considered notorious, author and artist of "Pigman." He's also the one who won the "Draw Mohammad" contest in Texas a few years ago.
The Question, the original right-wing superhero.
Stylin' and Racially Profilin'
Never thought of that.
Stylin' and Racially Profilin' No joke, he’s my favorite superhero.
Never actually read him. Got any suggestions where to jump in?
I never enjoyed his Charlton work as much as what he did at Marvel BUT the Ditko artwork on both the Question and Blue Beetle were inarguably cleaner than what he did on Spider-Man.
It was just so much more crisp... His Spider-Man always had an eccentric quality to it but I never felt he put his best efforts into it after a while. I think Ditko became very disillusioned with Marvel and preferred to work with Charlton because they left him alone and let him do his thing!
It's amazing ALL of Ditko's Charlton work was reprinted by DC Comics a few years ago. I've got those hardcovers. Even if they're NOT the best stories I've read, the artwork is among the best he did in that period on superhero comics.
Yeah, Steve Ditko was applying identity politics for a superhero.
riiiiiiiiiiiiight (no pun intended)
Never followed comic creators very closely, but Steve Ditko sounds like he was an amazing individual.
Shy Steve, what a genius , first book of his I ever read was Blue Beetle and though I was young I still credit it with showing me that comics can not only be art but can be fascinating tales of ambiguity that I just didn't find anywhere else at that age.
Gaiman is the very essence of over-rated.
I like some of his stuff but he is a cuck selling out his original vision for the death character for the sake of the correct opinions
I have liked The Question from Justice League Unlimited, but knew next to nothing about him. At least this makes him vastly more understandable and why he is such a great character. Could be wrong here, but it seems like Mr. A is an objective based version of The Shadow I guess.
Without him there would be no DR .Strange, without Dr Strange comics my childhood would of been a lonely and miserable memory.
60's Marvel creator - thoughtful man of intellect
Today's Marvel creator - um, like, patriarchy is like bad, or whatever?
I had not heard Razor. Thank You. RIP Mr Ditko
Any recommendations on where to find some of his older works? Maybe a collected volume?
Tough to track down in comic shops nowadays.
Marvel Masterworks Spider-Man was the book that got me into comics. I eventually got a copy signed by Stan Lee, but even though I know he never signed stuff, I’d have loved to at least told Ditko how much it changed my life.
DrFranklynAnderson Do they still sell those? I only have a few.
TheBlues32 I was able to get ASM Vol. 1 from Barnes and Noble pretty easily, that was five years ago by now.
‘Ditko was drawing in as explosively unprecedented a manner as anyone in comics history, with an endlessly rich and startlingly fresh way of representing the human imagination, quirky and eldritch, groundedly appealing but profoundly unsettling, distinct and in every detail exhibiting a mind that was just not like everyone else’s.’
~ Jeet Heer @NewRepublic via ReasonMagazine
reason.com/blog/2018/07/07/steve-ditko-rip
I'll always respect someone who is uncompromising in their principles no matter the cost. For that, ill always respect Ditko. In the modern world, where apparently there's a price on everyones integrity, ppl like that shine a little brighter.
Great video. Razor Fist never fails to please. RIP Steve Ditko.
I never thought that the 10 cent comic books I bought as a kid would one day be considered a serious art form.
You don't know how annoying Johnathan Ross is.
Thank you for setting the record straight. God speed indeed to Mr. Ditko!
The reason Batman can't kill the Joker is simply because he's too popular of a character to kill off lol
Comics are dead.
Hell, most narrative media is dead.
All we have are barely literate Cretins left (ex Ruin Johnson and Jar Jar Abrams).
We need more classically educated Creators like Stephen Fry, the Monty Python crew, etc.
Art these days is less about exploring ideas, showing your skill etc. It's more about pandering to the masses by telling them exactly what they think they want to hear.
eh, I'd say more baffling people with bull hockey and big words.
I'm sorry, and no disrespect intended, but that "...barely literate Cretans..." is a masterpiece of irony. _Cretins_ (Unless you have a grudge against Greeks)
(1) Good catch
(2) You don't?
For the non-Comics enthusiast, this may be incomprehensible "inside baseball..."
For the rest of us, this is a brilliant appreciation of a brilliant talent.
Great point that I always make (in different terms), but nobody wants to acknowledge. Aggressive, dangerous human predators should be exterminated, not only because they deserve it, but because that will eliminate the dozens, hundreds, thousands, millions of additional victims that predator will harm in the future.
gotta say, the black & white with red has really grown on me. especially with the Daredevil tshirt (helps that the logo is just plain awesome looking)
steve ditko could tell his own stories. his characters were thoughtful, not histrionic.
First Jack kirby now this ..... the world of comics will never be the same. 😔
Very nice tribute. Catching up on your videos because just realized hadn’t gotten notifications from your stuff in a while and missed a lot!
It's pretty fucked up to make a documentary "celebrating" a person, and then spend most of said documentary shitting on that person, without them even present to defend themselves. That's real cowardice right there.
RIP STEVE DITKO FOR CREATING SPIDER MAN AND MORE HEROES
1:16 Jesus. That is what I have always thought about Batman. Great man Ditko was.
The Question became Montoya from Batman and it was an ok story line. Never read it before 52 (the year without the big 3). I did enjoy the Question though for the short time he was alive in my reading time of DC.
Edit: Uh oh, your video is problematic "a hero is a man at his best" but what about overweight valiant female superheros?
granted I'm not entirely objectivitist but I take it more of a virtue kind of thing. Oddly enough back in the silver age having characters both on the hero side and the villain side was not that uncommon in fact there is a whole trope for it call "Stout strength"
tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/StoutStrength
Heroic Version:
tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BigFun
Villainous version
tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FatBastard
Heroine specific:
tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BigBeautifulWoman
Typically Female Villain:
tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BrawnHilda
yeah contrary to popular belief the idea of overweight comic book characters villain or hero is not that new of a trope. Nor has there really been a lot of controversy on it till about the last 20 years or so. I blame the "dark and gritty Realism" movement which honestly I think has become code for post-modernist.
I had no idea who this man was. I am lesser for that. Time to get educated.
I personally am strongly opposed to his views, but I admire his work and contribution to the comic book genre.
That means you embrace evil, perversion and corruption. How many Moloch ceremonies ya been to in your adult life?
Rest In Peace Mr. Ditko. And thank you Razorfist, well done.
Rip Steve Ditko. Truly a genius.
And Aubrey Sitterson decides to take a big steaming dump on him.
Keep it classy DA ( and I don't mean Dumbledore's Army.)
BTW the Question my favorite Charlton comics character. RIP Ditko you will be missed.
LOVE the look of this vid! The crimson accents are very cool indeed.
This dude was jordan peterson-ing before jordan peterson
It is sad to hear Steve has died. I loved the Question character that was on JLA Unlimited.
A friend & me saw the Watchmen movie. Everyone was saying how good it was, but we just thought it was marginally OK for Soft Core pr0n. We did think that Rorschach was the Hero of the story & were rooting for him.
He's up in heaven now. Talking shit about Stan Lee with Jack Kirby.
I really can’t think of a single writer that manages to be both very pretentious and as shallow as Neil Gamien. Alan Moore is often good but too often just goes off the rails and makes little to no sense.
Can we get a video on the question?