@@evintheking9945 Marrying Lola doesnt mean he would work under Big mom. Since Big mom said thanks to the giants she would have been able to take down all of the other Yonko, so having the giants as allied would have actually given her a power up. Also, Loki just wanted to marry Lola, meanwhile Big mom would have take benefit from the situation
Well considering Loki has been ranting about being the Sun God something the Gorosei want completely censored, also having a supposed extremely powerful devil fruit that could bring great ruin, and his bounty being labeled Special could mean that they wanted his existence erased as much as they could
Yes great video but I think Loki is the friend that shanks went to visit and said he thought he was dead. Loki called shanks a coward because he was unwilling to set Loki free. Something like “we may be friends but what you did has consequences and I will not interrupt the justice system of elbaph” so Loki he called him a coward and he left to get a drink right before kid arrived. Shanks probably put his flag on all the territory of Loki to protect them just as you guessed. Making him a powerful fighter with multiple islands under his control worthy of yonko status. And if we are right that Loki was a yonko then that also makes sense why big mom wanted to join them together and have 2 yonko crews plus the prince of elbaph under her then they could take out any and all in their path
I doubt it. No one mentioned him at all before. If he was one of the Yonkos, someone would have brought up his name, especially since it was not long ago (6 years).
I think shanks tricked loki and thats how he got imprisoned. Would have some parallels to fenrir who was tricked and enchained because of it. Also a bit ironic considering Loki is supposedly the trickster god.
Perhaps Loki has the gomu gomu fruit but after his defeat by shanks some one took his devil fruit from him and it got to the marines and shanks hearing of it attacked the ship and took it.
Other than the gomu gomu being a fabricated story of the World Government. I can't believe Shanks would get the fruit to Loki only to lose it to the marines.
Except that Shanks stole the Nika fruit 13 years ago, Luffy ate it 12 years ago and if shanks had fought loki and beat him than that happened 6 years ago.
A lot is still unclear about this. 6 years ago he got locked up, so we can assume that was right after he ate the fruit. So let’s say he was a yonko before he had a devil fruit and that’s where the 2.6 billion bounty came from. With that he doesn’t have really any notable crew mates at all, maybe you could say he was friendly with the giants beforehand. But it seems like he was an outcast before he was locked up. He seemed to value the animals there like he didn’t have many giant friends. That with him being called accursed leads us to believe he was always an outcast. So what would have become of his crew? I doubt he’d be a yonko without any territory or a crew. But if he was the 2.6 billion bounty would explain why. Being significantly lower than all other yonko by a lot. I think the biggest barrier to this is what crew and land did he have? If we say he was friendly to the giants as Big mom thought marrying into him would give her the strength to conquer the world. Thus he had the territory of elbaf and his crew would be the giants of the island. Something seems to be missing here, I do think it’s likely shanks took him down in some way. But 2.6 pre devil fruit is a bit insane. Especially with how much loki talks about his devil fruit power now, you would think if he had such power before a fruit he wouldn’t be boasting about the fruit so much. You would also think he’d just break free of his chains? Given the fact he dodged a point blank gear 4 attack while locked up and depowered you would think he’d have enough strength to just get the chains off or ask his animal friends to remove them.
I believe the previous yonko was Loki's father, an army of giants would truly have been a big deal, way more than fruitless Loki. Then Loki killed him, giving him a reasonable 2.6B bounty, and then Shanks beat Loki, reasonably raising him to Yonko status.
@skidzzthewiz9226 I wouldn't bee too surprised if Loki does actually have some giants who support him on Elbaf, or at least did in the past. This could have been referenced when they said that Rodo would be pleased if he heard that he was being compared to Loki.
@@PapuPinguinono Loki father was the king of elaf big mom have stated if she had a giants army she could been pirate king deafening wb kaido and shanks
@@evintheking9945 Well that kinda just makes my theory more plausible, if Big Mom allied herself with the giants, then she would have control over another yonko crew, and we already saw at onigashima how OP as hell a multi-yonko alliance is. Also, 90% of the time, strong people have strong children, Big Mom had Katakuri, Kaido had Yamato, Garp had Dragon, Dragon had Luffy, etc...
1. Having a high bounty doesn't make you an Emperor. It's influence and power that determines if you are 2. No relevant character as ever mentionned Loki before. Especially not as a Yonko. Jinbe probably know him via Big Mom 3. His prince status already yells that he never ruled Elbaf.
Loki would have had an actual bounty if he was an emperor and if he was an emperor he would not be at 2.6b right now. As the prince of elbaf and alleged strongest giant he would at least have 4b if shanks got 4b as an emperor
I disagree, shiki was a yonku stated in ace novel vol 2 and Loki is not interested in being king of pirates but to destroy the world only the pirates are. The giants are a different organization like the world gov them being Vikings
@@lemonplayz4032To our knowledge, that's the key phrase right there. Not to mention it's too much of a coincidence that Shanks became a Yonko around the same time he got chained up AND Shanks gets name dropped the same chapter we learn this info.
I think by special bounty, Oda actually means "Only Dead" or "Only Alive". We've already seen an "Only Alive" bounty and it was Sanji. Loki most likely has an "Only Dead" bounty and some characters like Dragon or Xebec too
I doubt he was a yonko the whole one piece world has got inflated bounties I think if he was this is the first time showed him his bounty he would defiantly be higher than 2.6 Blackbeard pervious yonko bounty is even lower than kid and law a bounty that small is too small for a yonko or previous yonko today
What if Joy Boy and Nika had their own Devil Fruits, and when paired together it brings upon Ragnarok? Would explain why Nika and Joy Boy always get used interchangeably and thats why Shanks took the Fruit so far away from Elbaf since it had recently become his territory?
Joyboy is the name of the first pirate who ate and awakened the nika fruit in the void century, Nika is a myth, the name of the sun god that the giants used to worship that became a mythical figure and spawned a mythical devil fruit(like a phoenix or kitsune), and like phoenixs and kitsunes, nika is just a myth, no one knows if they existed but because ppl believe in them they spawned a mythical devil fruit. The reason they get used so interchangably is that the people of the OP world barely know about 1 or the other, obv because both names have been erased from history, but we the audience know the difference between them. and in chapter 1114 Vegapunk spoke about Joyboy fighting with a rubber body like nika, in the same way Luffy does meaning he's made the connection between the two, but since even he isnt aware about the Nika fruit, we don't know if he's deduced the reason for their connection.
@2SpiralNika This comment is a joy to read. I really don't understand why fans are confused about this, or why there is a belief that Sun God Nika is an actual character in the story.
Imagine if Loki attended Roger's execution lol. Still more discreet than if Big Mom had gone there.
Ah yes a giant during rogers execution and he blended in like everyone else
What about Hachinosu then
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Loki being a yonko with the strongest army honestly makes sense and mad no one really thought of this before 😅
It doesn’t make sense tho if he was yonku why marry Lola and work under big mom her being a yonku
@@evintheking9945 Marrying Lola doesnt mean he would work under Big mom. Since Big mom said thanks to the giants she would have been able to take down all of the other Yonko, so having the giants as allied would have actually given her a power up.
Also, Loki just wanted to marry Lola, meanwhile Big mom would have take benefit from the situation
@@evintheking9945 because he likes her?
@@wangeomaticwe don’t know yet, you should hope Oda hasn’t forgotten about that plot point
you have alot of good ideas for this story. that nico robin being luffys sister is one of my favorites
Thanks
I definitely agree, Dragon brought those flowers for robin’s Mom, among other things
That's what I've been saying on Twitter. As per history, a Yonko replaces a Yonko. Luffy, BB, Buggy
The problem with this theory is that we should have heard at some point previously in the story about Loki beinging a Yonko.
Well considering Loki has been ranting about being the Sun God something the Gorosei want completely censored, also having a supposed extremely powerful devil fruit that could bring great ruin, and his bounty being labeled Special could mean that they wanted his existence erased as much as they could
@@neosgundam2584 I don't think that's enough justification for absolutely no one to say something about him being a bloody Yonko
Yes great video but I think Loki is the friend that shanks went to visit and said he thought he was dead. Loki called shanks a coward because he was unwilling to set Loki free. Something like “we may be friends but what you did has consequences and I will not interrupt the justice system of elbaph” so Loki he called him a coward and he left to get a drink right before kid arrived. Shanks probably put his flag on all the territory of Loki to protect them just as you guessed. Making him a powerful fighter with multiple islands under his control worthy of yonko status. And if we are right that Loki was a yonko then that also makes sense why big mom wanted to join them together and have 2 yonko crews plus the prince of elbaph under her then they could take out any and all in their path
I doubt it. No one mentioned him at all before. If he was one of the Yonkos, someone would have brought up his name, especially since it was not long ago (6 years).
I still believe it’s shiki who was a former younku
Well considering we don’t know who the other yonko was before shanks we never know
@@evintheking9945 He disapeared after breaking out of Impel Down 22 years ago unfortunetly
@@isaacjohnson7573 maybe the term Yonko came to existence when Shanks join the squad
@@nobody42071 true the last time we saw cannon shiki was with wb but shiki is stronger than kaido in god valley
Great video!
Loki kinda looks similar to that one rocks pirates member who was in silhouette
Wang shi?
@@Goldendwarf1 No the one below wang zi in chapter 1096
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It happens if someone in a video says "like this video" or something similar
So what if the fruit was stolen from Loki by Cypher Pol. And then Shanks stole it from them to which Luffy ate it
I think shanks tricked loki and thats how he got imprisoned. Would have some parallels to fenrir who was tricked and enchained because of it. Also a bit ironic considering Loki is supposedly the trickster god.
yeah like Tyr losing his hand in the beasts jaw.
Bro you cooked so good 😂 good theory by the way
Perhaps Loki has the gomu gomu fruit but after his defeat by shanks some one took his devil fruit from him and it got to the marines and shanks hearing of it attacked the ship and took it.
I like the idea, if not for Vegapunk saying that there has actually never existed a literal rubber fruit.
@swordpiece then could gomo gomo fruit have been created by someone.
Other than the gomu gomu being a fabricated story of the World Government. I can't believe Shanks would get the fruit to Loki only to lose it to the marines.
Except that Shanks stole the Nika fruit 13 years ago, Luffy ate it 12 years ago and if shanks had fought loki and beat him than that happened 6 years ago.
It wasn’t the marine it was cp9
I think “special bounty” is for being a king. What other true “king” has a bounty in one piece? 🧐 I really can’t think of any…
Your theory could be indeed how Shanks became a yonko, but this theory works without Loki being a former yonko.
A lot is still unclear about this. 6 years ago he got locked up, so we can assume that was right after he ate the fruit. So let’s say he was a yonko before he had a devil fruit and that’s where the 2.6 billion bounty came from.
With that he doesn’t have really any notable crew mates at all, maybe you could say he was friendly with the giants beforehand. But it seems like he was an outcast before he was locked up. He seemed to value the animals there like he didn’t have many giant friends. That with him being called accursed leads us to believe he was always an outcast. So what would have become of his crew? I doubt he’d be a yonko without any territory or a crew. But if he was the 2.6 billion bounty would explain why. Being significantly lower than all other yonko by a lot.
I think the biggest barrier to this is what crew and land did he have? If we say he was friendly to the giants as Big mom thought marrying into him would give her the strength to conquer the world. Thus he had the territory of elbaf and his crew would be the giants of the island.
Something seems to be missing here, I do think it’s likely shanks took him down in some way. But 2.6 pre devil fruit is a bit insane. Especially with how much loki talks about his devil fruit power now, you would think if he had such power before a fruit he wouldn’t be boasting about the fruit so much. You would also think he’d just break free of his chains? Given the fact he dodged a point blank gear 4 attack while locked up and depowered you would think he’d have enough strength to just get the chains off or ask his animal friends to remove them.
I believe the previous yonko was Loki's father, an army of giants would truly have been a big deal, way more than fruitless Loki. Then Loki killed him, giving him a reasonable 2.6B bounty, and then Shanks beat Loki, reasonably raising him to Yonko status.
@skidzzthewiz9226 I wouldn't bee too surprised if Loki does actually have some giants who support him on Elbaf, or at least did in the past. This could have been referenced when they said that Rodo would be pleased if he heard that he was being compared to Loki.
@@PapuPinguinono Loki father was the king of elaf big mom have stated if she had a giants army she could been pirate king deafening wb kaido and shanks
@@evintheking9945 Well that kinda just makes my theory more plausible, if Big Mom allied herself with the giants, then she would have control over another yonko crew, and we already saw at onigashima how OP as hell a multi-yonko alliance is. Also, 90% of the time, strong people have strong children, Big Mom had Katakuri, Kaido had Yamato, Garp had Dragon, Dragon had Luffy, etc...
Well Luffy has been going for yonkos so Loki might be one
1. Having a high bounty doesn't make you an Emperor. It's influence and power that determines if you are
2. No relevant character as ever mentionned Loki before. Especially not as a Yonko. Jinbe probably know him via Big Mom
3. His prince status already yells that he never ruled Elbaf.
But Loki was never a pirate, was he?
but Shanks going to gartel was in a flashback 1 month ago
That was a reference to Barto raiding the island. Shanks going there happened in present time.
Loki would have had an actual bounty if he was an emperor and if he was an emperor he would not be at 2.6b right now. As the prince of elbaf and alleged strongest giant he would at least have 4b if shanks got 4b as an emperor
his bounty is outdated
@ 6 years ago dawg…if he was an emperor 6 years ago he’d still have more than 2.6b
Special bounty not normal bounty means he wasn't a pirate so no not a yonkou
I disagree, shiki was a yonku stated in ace novel vol 2 and Loki is not interested in being king of pirates but to destroy the world only the pirates are. The giants are a different organization like the world gov them being Vikings
Pretty sure viking means pirate or raider but I think I get what you mean.
Nah fam hes barely even known tbh
If anything, the "special bounty" is evidence that Loki was NOT a pirate, since no other pirate (not even emperors), have the "special bounty" note.
Yeah, but other criminals like the Revolutionaries aren't called special either, so I don't think it's related to this.
He has never once committed a crime against the Word Government to our knowledge
I think its Because he’s prince of the giants or was
@@lemonplayz4032To our knowledge, that's the key phrase right there. Not to mention it's too much of a coincidence that Shanks became a Yonko around the same time he got chained up AND Shanks gets name dropped the same chapter we learn this info.
I think by special bounty, Oda actually means "Only Dead" or "Only Alive". We've already seen an "Only Alive" bounty and it was Sanji. Loki most likely has an "Only Dead" bounty and some characters like Dragon or Xebec too
Didnt Oda confirm it was shiki
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@@swordpiece actually its one of the reasons i watch your videos
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I doubt he was a yonko the whole one piece world has got inflated bounties I think if he was this is the first time showed him his bounty he would defiantly be higher than 2.6 Blackbeard pervious yonko bounty is even lower than kid and law a bounty that small is too small for a yonko or previous yonko today
no lol
What if Joy Boy and Nika had their own Devil Fruits, and when paired together it brings upon Ragnarok? Would explain why Nika and Joy Boy always get used interchangeably and thats why Shanks took the Fruit so far away from Elbaf since it had recently become his territory?
Joyboy is the name of the first pirate who ate and awakened the nika fruit in the void century, Nika is a myth, the name of
the sun god that the giants used to worship that became a mythical figure and spawned a mythical devil fruit(like a phoenix or kitsune), and like phoenixs and kitsunes, nika is just a myth, no one knows if they existed but because ppl believe in them they spawned a mythical devil fruit. The reason they get used so interchangably is that the people of the OP world barely know about 1 or the other, obv because both names have been erased from history, but we the audience know the difference between them. and in chapter 1114 Vegapunk spoke about Joyboy fighting with a rubber body like nika, in the same way Luffy does meaning he's made the connection between the two, but since even he isnt aware about the Nika fruit, we don't know if he's deduced the reason for their connection.
@2SpiralNika This comment is a joy to read. I really don't understand why fans are confused about this, or why there is a belief that Sun God Nika is an actual character in the story.
@@swordpiece bad reading comprehension like oda said