Far Lane "The Grave in the Garden" Gorton Manchester
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- There is a grave in a garden belonging to James and Sarah Barlow dating back to 1829. The grave is situated at the bottom of Far lane, Gorton Manchester. Stay tuned to see if I solve the mystery of why it is there and not in the graveyard opposite. If you know this grave, have any further information or just want to share your memories please comment below. Thank you.
The grave is of James Barlow. For some reason I refer to him as Samuel for the fist half of the video. Sorry for any confusion.
Live in Gorton Manchester for 57 years.
Good to look back
Let's see more on Gorton keep going
I played round there with my cousin as a kid and we were fascinated when we stumbled across this grave. Must be all of about 40-45 years ago now!!
I first discovered it in the late 70's/early 80's and have cleaned it up a few times over the years. Its an area full of stories like winning hill and maidens bridge.
Wow I live in Gorton just round from far lane and never knew about this. Thank you.
Under the waggon and horses pub .. no idea if still their on hyde road , but it used to be Manchesters Main morturay mourge
Also, where the gravestone lies currently - opposite the cottage with the 1792 plaque - is the garden of the old farmhouse which was owned by the Betts family in the early 1970s. It was fenced and gated before the farm was demolished. The gate was between 2 hawthorn trees opposite No 52.
Do you think the gravestone was moved at the same time the cottages were demolished?
I’ve just discussed this with my sister and we think it was later, well after the demolition.
Both of us remember playing in the area as children after the houses were demolished - we called it Betts’s Farm - where the stone now lies and it not being there then. And our recollection of the move is that we were older by that stage. They did do some landscaping of the area later on - that’s when all the trees on the (then) grassy area at the bottom of the Brow were planted. Perhaps it was then. For context, I remember being an older child/teenager at that point and hearing my dad complaining that when the trees grew they would interfere with his TV aerial!
@@LisaLacourarie Typical Dad worried he won't be able to see the pools results on Grandstand 😂
i've lived in the area my whole life, i used to play where the grave is on far lane in the late 70s when i was a little kid, the grave stone lay on the hill in the grass and we wondered what it was. at the time we didn't realise it was a grave because we was only kids. not sure if the grave stone is still there buried under the soil or if the council took it away. Great Story By The Way.. Awesome, i learned things i wasn't aware of.
Thanks. I went and cleared the grave about seven years ago so should still be there if not a little overgrown again. Played in the area myself late 70s to late 80's. Do you remember the old bus parked near the grave that was being converted into a human cannon ball cannon?
@@bertdingle i can't remember that, i remember there was an old sweet shop on far lane, and i've seen pictures of the old pub that was there where the cottages are, and i remember going through the little door at the back of the waggon and horses pub, there was a little counter there, i would go in to buy sweets, crisps and coke because all the shops were shut at 5pm/5.30pm, some shops would shut at 6pm but that was pretty rare, and and i used to take my son to scouts at the top.. also, not sure if you remember but there was a row of shops at the top of far lane, and there used to be (i think) the front of a austin mini bolted to the wall, i also remember luxicabs at the top of tan yard brow at hyde rd, i remember it burning down a couple of times before it got knocked down. and i remember the coal hills, well we called it the coal hills, the empty land where mcdonalds/pure gym/ holiday inn is, years ago that was all waste land and we used to go over playing on there, making fires, riding bikes, camping out, it was brilliant.
I remember all that, the mini sticking out of the upstairs wall of the car shop. I went inside as a kid when it was derelict and was surprised that the back end was not inside! :) There is another couple of videos on my channel that might interest you, The building of the Scout hut on Far Lane and one about Far Lane that shows the pub and the sweet shop you talk about.
Having grown up on Far Lane, I found this really interesting. As a child in the 1970s, my sister, our friends and I often played in the overgrown cottage garden of James Barlow’s house and I remember the grave well. The house was at the top of Ryder Brow to the right of the Spurley Hey school gates on the end of a row of cottages. According to local legend, the house was believed to be haunted. Opposite was an old farmhouse and several other lovely old properties which were all demolished to create “green belt” land in the 1970s. The gravestone was at some point removed from the actual burial site and replaced further down the Brow to - if I remember rightly - a spot that was made into a public garden area. I remember the guy who moved it feeling very uneasy about moving it and having some kind of accident with the fork lift truck he was using, leaving him really shaken up. I wonder if the original - now unmarked - grave was left undisturbed?
Are you sure it was moved? The news paper cutting I have is from 1965 and it was over grown then. I first discovered it in the late seventies and it was over grown then also but I do have a vague recollection that there was another grave further up that was built up around a foot high with a stone on top but when I went back many years later I couldn't fined it so presumed I had imagined it. Maybe there are two?
@@bertdingle Yes - certain. It was moved after the demolition of the houses which must have been in the early 1970s. I remember clearly seeing it/reading the inscription in the garden of the house at the top of the Brow. Students lived in the house and we children used to knock and ask if we could pick flowers in the garden! Interesting to hear that you have found evidence of the oak coffin as that was a story I heard often as a child. There was a forsythia bush on the boundary of the garden near Spurley Hey gates which survived for years after the demolition - might still be there if you go looking for the original grave site. I also remember clearly the incident with the fork lift truck - the driver had a near miss and was totally spooked out believing that the accident was down to the fact that he was disturbing a grave. My recollection though is that the new site was at the top of the Brow on the right hand side towards Old Hall Drive and not opposite the house with the 1792 plaque. Maybe it was moved again at some point? That whole area was a playground to the local Far Lane kids at the time and we knew every inch of it - to my knowledge, there wasn’t another grave around there, although of course there is Brookfield graveyard just at the back of the row of houses.
@@LisaLacourarie Very interesting. I'll see what I can find out. I don't suppose you remember a bus parked on Far Lane that was converted into a Human Cannon ball Cannon do you. would have been around 1980?
Hi again - update! I’ve just been talking to my sister who confirmed that she remembers the stone being moved to the area opposite the cottage with the plaque as well so sounds like I was mistaken on that. Sorry.
Re the bus - yes, I know about that as well. It belonged to a guy called Michael who lived with his wife, Sally, on Milton Mount. He was known as The Human Cannonball - he used to travel with fairgrounds as I recall and I did see him once at an event being shot out into a net! They were really interesting people and I seem to remember him telling us that he had written a book about his life - I’ll see what I can find. They also had a lodger, Carl, who used to dress as a cowboy - also from a fairground background - and his daughter, Carlita, living with them for a time.
I said “fairground” but it could have been a circus act - I remember my mum saying she had seen photos of Sally in her younger performing days.
My Aunt used to live on far lane , and the sink was poraceline With a date on it of 1928 she's dead now , but remember for it's age been very well built , i live in Norfolk now , but hear Gorton as suffered massive decline
Bloody Gorton great place thanks
Glad you enjoyed it.
Very interesting as my uncle lived there and my sister at the bottom of Far Lane.
Thanks. Do you remember the guy who turned an old bus into a human cannon ball in the early 80's?
Gorton and Openshaw reporter Wow
Good video....how did you do the voiceover, is it AI voice ? Sounds good.
Thanks. Yes it's googles text to speech. Tweaked the pitch and speed, and a few phonetic spellings to make it a little more human. Used a cheeky patch cable from the line out to line in, otherwise it can be quite pricey. I was surprised how human you can make it sound. Not perfect but better than my own voice :)
My oldest sister went to Ryder Brow School. I was still at Saint Marks
Did Myra Hindley go to that school?
@@legendaryjonblue Myra went to St Francis , School no idea where the original one was, but think the newer version is at the back of Gorton monastery think it's called textile st myra worked as a seamstress on levenshulme rd not far from far lane
@@user-zz8qn7ne5w She went to Ryder Brow at 11. It was a secondary school back then. I just googled it
Thanks for the video. Where exactly is the grave? Thanks
@andyarmstrong4186 Thanks, It's at the bottom of Far Lane on the scrub land opposite the house that has a date stone of 1782, around 30 feet from the road. It is very overgrown so may take some finding.
probally killed by a gorton
good job fella. I'm from Bolton and love local ish history. Watched one the other night on angel meadow Manchester. horrific as it was enlightening.
@harry.goodwinson1 Thanks, I have been to Tuton Tower in Bolton a few time, well worth a visit if you haven't been. Also not too far from Knob!