Can Harmony MC Carry Me In The Hardest Endgame Ever?

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  • We got Harmony Trailblazer on the warpless account in Honkai: Star Rail! Will they carry us in the hardest MoC yet? Or will I lose the challenge? Will be streaming this account here: / zetomai / discord
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  • @zmm1337
    @zmm1337  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +227

    Could we also get Free Ruan Mei pretty pwease hoyo? 😭
    Will be streaming my eventual pulls here! -> www.twitch.tv/zetomai

    • @jreggrae
      @jreggrae 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      i pray so i really need her too

    • @whitemagical2045
      @whitemagical2045 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I hope you get Firefly and Ruan mei for free. and a great video it is fun to watch your videos and how you deal with a challenge.

    • @kurokun07
      @kurokun07 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      free ruan mei would be huge

    • @ratspew932
      @ratspew932 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Free Ruan Mei would be super unlikely, esp since she is BH/FF best buddy and will rerun either in 2.3 or 2.4, so you know, MONEY.
      Still, it would be lovely.

    • @vertisyvengeful4254
      @vertisyvengeful4254 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@ratspew932also, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't give out a 5* that's already had a banner

  • @Nmasih
    @Nmasih 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1894

    Bro is never leaving the 4pc eagle domain 💀💀

    • @marley7659
      @marley7659 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

      He could leave eagle domain if he already has sets for 8 characters.

    • @dankmeimes4274
      @dankmeimes4274 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

      This is optimally how everyone should play, eagle is so insanely broken

    • @Тюлень-о1м
      @Тюлень-о1м 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Zajef vermillion Aware

    • @chessterstone
      @chessterstone 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +72

      @@dankmeimes4274this is so true, why have extra 40-50% damage from other relic sets in one cycle when you can have 1 extra turn for the entire team in one cycle, that’s basically double damage or double healing or double the skill points in one cycle🥶🥶🥶

    • @maingrader4434
      @maingrader4434 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I literally read 4pc edge domain 💀

  • @Kikrafis
    @Kikrafis 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +353

    I think the biggest weakness to the account isn't characters but light cones.

    • @deadpaul6587
      @deadpaul6587 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +70

      Eidolons would also make a huge difference

    • @haryok8940
      @haryok8940 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      Biggest weakness for this acc is 4pc eagle farm

    • @kurokun07
      @kurokun07 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      biggest weakness doesn’t exist on this account until they buffed all the moc enemies to like a million so now the biggest weakness is damage output per cycle

    • @ThatFoxGirl
      @ThatFoxGirl 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      As someone with an account doing the same challenge, I will 100% agree on the light cones part. Crazy how much weaker a lot of your characters are with terrible LCs. The best example is Harmony characters, you get a single Chorus, and then the two MoC cones, and that’s it. No ERR in something even as basic as Cogs is tough.
      Also, basically no good Lightcones for Nihility if you happened to get Pela from events.

    • @nugget027
      @nugget027 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@kurokun07goddamn i see you everywhere, mainly from osu videos at first, but now star rail too apparently, props 🙌

  • @SeelieDeco
    @SeelieDeco 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +679

    natasha the true main character of warpless

    • @cloudy978
      @cloudy978 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      Bedore Lynxi she literally carried my no warp account lmao. Couldn't have made it without her. Qq is also really a godsend.

    • @Wizdabest1
      @Wizdabest1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

      Nah the main character of warpless is 4pc Eagle

  • @jonathanhh3728
    @jonathanhh3728 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +339

    Keep the account pure imo, no pulls, it will dilute the account and maybe tempt you to cut corners sometimes. It's entertain to watch you find solutions for extremely difficult challenges! Great series

    • @StandardsInOurLives
      @StandardsInOurLives 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

      I think standard only would be better with every character at e0

    • @d_roy_
      @d_roy_ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

      No pull will get so bad so soon that it'll be not worth the frustration. Standard only is good.

    • @tnb4509
      @tnb4509 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@d_roy_ Yes if the powercreep is so bad now it'll only get worse later. He'll have to start pulling eventually.

    • @frozenlettuce293
      @frozenlettuce293 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      It sounds fun but realistically he wont be able to clear MoC 10 if they keep buffing the HP, at one point, probably by 3.0 It'll be flat out impossible

    • @tridinh1011
      @tridinh1011 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@StandardsInOurLives that's literally impossible

  • @pwedesaddina8695
    @pwedesaddina8695 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +140

    HTR super break is also effected by how much toughness bar dmg a character does, that is why Nat did so low dmg because a basic only deals like a 1/16 of a toughness bar.

    • @remy_reeves
      @remy_reeves 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Does Ruan team break efficiency count?

    • @eevee7022
      @eevee7022 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      @@remy_reevesoh definitely, as a ruan Mei haver. Since I run her and htb with good ol Xueyi, the break efficiency shows… especially when using xueyi’s ult against weakness broken enemies: around 150k+ super break damage is no joke..

    • @henricristian6199
      @henricristian6199 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@remy_reeves 50% break efficiency is 1,5x super break multiplier, it change a lot

  • @None-tb5yy
    @None-tb5yy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +477

    The new moc is making me cry

    • @jamess359
      @jamess359 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +67

      Don't worry, its fine. Crying is what the Hoyo community does best.

    • @noice9193
      @noice9193 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I managed to get my first 35 stars this moc

    • @khairilanam3020
      @khairilanam3020 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      i get 35 this time, usually i got fullstars, but welp seems my relics are not that good

    • @juleha1
      @juleha1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      dw it takes me 30 times to full star this

    • @suzsh7037
      @suzsh7037 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      I can't cuz my mf Tingyun keep dying like wtf stop hiting her yall bastards she's not conservation character 😭

  • @chicka7956
    @chicka7956 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +151

    He is never beating the 4pc eagle allegations

  • @tesshieh9201
    @tesshieh9201 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    moc is getting harder and harder every time, even for my nicely built 5 star characters. we managed to get it this time, but who knows what comes next... you're a superhero omfg

    • @Moonstar43223
      @Moonstar43223 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      everything is good for me till 12, it's like they really want me to pull the character who resonates with the MOC effect thingy ;-;

    • @tesshieh9201
      @tesshieh9201 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Moonstar43223 I managed to beat moc12 with Acheron hypercarry 1st half and break effect Shushang + Ruan Mei + Harmony MC
      The 1st team is not so f2p friendly tho, cause I also have SW(

    • @Moonstar43223
      @Moonstar43223 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@tesshieh9201 Ruan Mei.. if she actually reruns im gonna have to hope I win 50/50 cause she's like a must pull nowadays (even though I want Huo Huo or Sparkle but they seem to be still far away so it will be a wait ;-;)

    • @tridinh1011
      @tridinh1011 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Moonstar43223 i basically spent my entire account savings on E2S1 acheron so i've had no problem with MoC since. Before her i somehow got e1 BS so my Ache team is super invested

  • @loganfury7416
    @loganfury7416 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +87

    Zeto, your HSR content is my favorite. Please don't stop doing what makes you happy

  • @IconicTristan
    @IconicTristan 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +295

    Harmony mc is so broken I’m in shock that they gave us him/her for free, then again Mc is a 5 star

    • @ennoffp
      @ennoffp 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

      Honorary 5 star at best I'm afraid. Their trace material requirements are the same as 4 star units. Same goes with their stats, being roughly the same as 4 stars as opposed to 5 stars.

    • @Bao598
      @Bao598 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +86

      @@ennoffp but the performance its way better than a 4 star unit, and tbh the stats dont really matter on harmony mc since you only need speed and BE with a chest and orb with deffensive stats so... Its a 5 stars

    • @StellaTheBoymoder
      @StellaTheBoymoder 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@Bao598 There's 4* with better performance than 5* and 5* with worse performance than 4*, the only universal difference between the rarities is stats so TB is a 4*, just an extremely good 4*.

    • @Bao598
      @Bao598 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@StellaTheBoymoder the difference between them are way more blurry than that, of course we have some 5 stars that are garbage like any other game, but that doesnt change anything, for a 4 star to perform better than a 5 stars you need way more investment, lets put for example shushang, she is an incredible 4 star unit but in order to outperform most of 5 stars you need way more investment, thats the real difference between 4 and 5 stars, not just the base stats since in most dps you want to build for crit and that is the same base for everyone outside of traces that buff it especifically...

    • @StellaTheBoymoder
      @StellaTheBoymoder 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@Bao598 I'm just saying that functionally there's nothing that separates 5* units from 4* other than stats and material costs, if mihoyo decided to make a 4* with better skills than a 5* they could, the only thing that they couldn't change is the stats and cost.

  • @samsemy6825
    @samsemy6825 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

    keeping everyone 0 zero on the warpless side would be really fascinating, but either way once you pull it's not gonna be possible to keep everything the same.
    this has been the most fascinating account and your editing truly makes the content one of a kind.
    So out of pure want for this to keep going as far as possible I'd vote on waiting for the standard wishes and use them all up as you pull for an E6

  • @ArchonKujo
    @ArchonKujo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +218

    This is as far as we can get as our best Trailblazer yet!

    • @andreavarvarigos1936
      @andreavarvarigos1936 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You are everywhere just like me hiii

    • @abdshaaban2015
      @abdshaaban2015 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Where are you getting your free time from your everywhere do you even watch the video

    • @Saberdud
      @Saberdud 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@abdshaaban2015 it's multiple ppls

    • @Clodsireenjoyer-bc9cd
      @Clodsireenjoyer-bc9cd 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      best part is he doesn't even have E6 yet, which IMO is VERY broken

    • @chillhour6155
      @chillhour6155 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What does E6 do ?

  • @shadowteon8308
    @shadowteon8308 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I would keep the account warpless! Even if you can’t clear everything, it’s still amazing to see how far can this account can go through the endgame content!

  • @Idk-xr9pk
    @Idk-xr9pk 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +76

    yes standard only would be amazing, this has been my favourite series of HSR to date. love the content man

  • @SketonPent
    @SketonPent 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +150

    If you ask me, I think continuing without pulling is more entertaining, because it's a true challenge to beat the game content that way. There are some 4 star characters that are really good once you get them e6 and can beat these kind of challenges way easier so I think for the sake of entertainment, the challenge and maintaining the gameplay interesting I wouldn't pull (also the other series where you make a x10 pull when you are defeated would be too similar with this series after new changes)

    • @xxivkraegen2124
      @xxivkraegen2124 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      This content is super good but i felt his pain to reset dozens of time to get the perfect 3 stars everytime

    • @thenovafly_
      @thenovafly_ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      E6 4 stars without pulling…
      Might take a while.

    • @SketonPent
      @SketonPent 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@xxivkraegen2124 Yeah, but that's the point, because anyone can beat the MoC with the newest characters and their signature LC, but doing it with only the free characters without pulling a single time, that's another story, that requieres precision, rng and a good strategy. It's a lot of work, a lot of resets, a lot of time, but that's why we watch it, to see how he overcomes a challenge that seemed impossible.

    • @SketonPent
      @SketonPent 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@thenovafly_ Yes, but is only a matter of time to get to that point, and also there are other characters that with a couple of eidolons get a huge power boost without needing to be e6. Also once you unlock an eidolon there is no turning back, so all the challenges will become slowly more easy until you won't need a perfect strategy, good rng or have your characters geared up perfectly. And that's the reason why I recommend not to pull, because once the magic of the "imposible challenge" breaks there is no way to get it back.

    • @ThyBr0
      @ThyBr0 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Well there’s also nothing wrong with using 300 standard pulls and going on from there. It’s still free and doesn’t use a single Jade nor limited ticket from this game. It’s all doable and sruff

  • @adveloss
    @adveloss 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    i think you should keep the pulls! zeto your amazing fr but your warpless videos are really entertaining! i love seeing that you don’t even need to warp to beat almost all content. keep doing what makes u happy tho ^_^

  • @pokedude3221
    @pokedude3221 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Yup standard only would be the natural upgrade to this series for sure! And it would be so fun to watch you manage the slight increase in power

  • @Zerocyxone9
    @Zerocyxone9 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Keep this account warpless man. Its fun to watch these vids.

  • @PaulSComedy14
    @PaulSComedy14 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    When Zmm uploads it is a good day. I swear everytime I see a video of yours in my sub box, I watch it and get the urge to watch the entire series again lol.

  • @ikatsuwu
    @ikatsuwu 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    good BE rolls on that Sushang build amazing 🤯🤯 thanks for your videos 💖💖

  • @DirtTapes_
    @DirtTapes_ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    gotta say, this series has always been really enjoyable to watch! even made me start a warpless acount of my own
    also regarding the pulls, as someone else said if you do that it might overlap with the no glass canon series you have

  • @implant3567
    @implant3567 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i love the warpless account and seeing whats possible without the gacha :) i think pulling would make for 1 good video then make any future videos on this account not as good, but continuing the challenge would keep all the videos interesting !

  • @saincx0m9
    @saincx0m9 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    i think keeping the account pseudo warpless/standard only is the way to go
    it would be more interesting that way

  • @spaceydaughter
    @spaceydaughter 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +63

    Would like to see a standard only account :^)))

    • @elina1421
      @elina1421 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      me too!

  • @namelessunnamed6544
    @namelessunnamed6544 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I want warpless alive
    Coz I want to be clinically insane like you
    Keep up the grate work

  • @HikariHoutaru
    @HikariHoutaru 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Another Zmm upload!

  • @semivivusrex
    @semivivusrex 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Your Lie In April Piano OST. PTSD came back.

  • @ereh5616
    @ereh5616 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Bro loves 4 piece eagle, imagine what will happen when he gets his first DDDx5 lightcone

  • @soulofalbedo
    @soulofalbedo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Havent watched it yet but considering the scaling trend of MoC and how incredibly mediocre HMC is without Ruan Mei im going to guess it goes even rougher than usual

    • @Bao598
      @Bao598 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Idk about yours but mine without ruan Mei hits for 80k with a super break, with ruan mei hits for 125k so i dont think its mediocre at all mate...

    • @soulofalbedo
      @soulofalbedo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@Bao598 X damage number vs Y damage number is a pretty shortsighted way of understanding how the team comp works. Sure, the damage difference is pretty massive on superbreaks with and without RM but arguably more important is the effect on how limited and backloaded superbreak damage windows are. RM gets you there 50% faster and massively extends the damage window where superbreak is actually doing something. i do understand that people still see the larger numbers when you do get superbreaks even with just HMC and think that means its good. but if you just use a different support option your performance over the course of the fight is just pretty greatly increased.
      granted, this is a no warp account so its not like there are a ton of amazing options so hmc might still be good in some scenarios but for a normal account, pretty mid. Doesnt mean they cant contribute anything at all, just gets outclassed by just about any other support option. (watched the video... yup)

    • @Bao598
      @Bao598 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@soulofalbedo i know, but given the point that its a support hitting for that ammount its too much to say its a mid unit, even more when not that much free units can hit for that ammount Ruan Mei makes it godlike but without her its still a good unit, maybe you have less uptime but if you supply that with hight thoughness dmg units can still make easy most fights...

    • @merafera3390
      @merafera3390 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@soulofalbedonext moc will really showcase hmc for a lot of people and will start to see why hmc is so broken. Turning characters that previously had problems with doing dmg to just straight killing enemies with absurdly high numbers and that applies to everyone especially hmc and gallagher. So building hmc right now is the right call anyway since we are entering the break meta with turbulences buffing break more

  • @jasonfox6932
    @jasonfox6932 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'm also playing with a warpless account and I would be really sad to see someone who I consider the example of it's potential move on from that. Ultimately though, you should play the game in a way that'll keep you having fun, I'll keep watching no matter what.

  • @willgt911
    @willgt911 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Your content is always a pleasure to watch. Loving the energy!

  • @abdurehmanmalik2980
    @abdurehmanmalik2980 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    If only they gave free Boothill so this account could've hat Freedom Man on Freedom Set.

  • @anandasatria7734
    @anandasatria7734 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think it's interesting to see standard pull only. I would love to see Bronya, Misha, Lynx, Welt, and Galagher into play. For the 4 stars, I'm thinking of keeeping it to the 2nd eidolons only at most, since it's where most 4* characters becomes really good while keeping it relatively challenging.

    • @ThyBr0
      @ThyBr0 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I don’t think it matters. E6 4 stars aren’t that game changing anyways. It’s still a 4 star compared to a whole ass limited character. There are standard only account who played for 1 year into this game since day one and yeah they got e6 tingyuns and pelas and stuff. It’s not unrealistic to think that

  • @barcelonasuperfan5467
    @barcelonasuperfan5467 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good to see you still going strong with making content, i hope you keep getting more and more successful.

  • @hyper_lightning
    @hyper_lightning 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Loved this series so far.
    Personally I think standard only is gonna be necessary with the constant difficulty increase but maybe for 5* units only use free ones like dr ratio or 5* selector if we get those.
    4* tho, especially the of ones, feel pretty bad without their eidolons so I think it would be fine to get them and it would still feel true to the challenge.
    Either way, looking forward to whatever you decide!

  • @sairamanbalagan8853
    @sairamanbalagan8853 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Loved the commentary, subscribed!

  • @dey_monio
    @dey_monio 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I love your content and your excitement. It makes me like this game even more as it makes possible to have so much fun without stressing the player for pulling. I personally don't see any harm in your challenge just pulling by regular white tickets you get from missions and content overall without spending jades. I mean a new plethora of 4* characters and eidolons will make your content refreshing and less stressing for you. Also, the difficulty on newer endgame content will be getting harder and harder until the point I believe finishing them will be impossible some time.

  • @THEM0J0MAN
    @THEM0J0MAN 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    first thing i saw from you, awesome video
    as to the question at the end
    man i feel like your no pull account is so unique that i want nothing to tarnish it
    but for your own sanity to enjoy the game standard pulls makes sense
    no idea, such a tough decision

  • @Dribble406
    @Dribble406 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I want you to keep the account as is, I started my own pure account and honestly its helped with burnout on my main to the point I don;t log on to the main anymore as I find warpless to be a bit more fun

  • @mozzapple
    @mozzapple 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    with a well-build TB, you can get +100 BE from their ult, e4, and 4pc watchmaker - which is crazy for BE-scaling characters

  • @BelialRus
    @BelialRus 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There are some 4* only clears atm on youtube, but nothing that's actually "relatable" bc those have sick relics. I think what makes your video unique and so fun to watch is that it's basically a handicapped F2P, so we learn what is actually possible for ANY account no matter how little he spends or how unlucky he gets. So from entertainment value point I think standart banner only is more interesting. However if that was me, I wound never waste those 800 accumulated pulls. I'd rather get my fav character to e6 or smth xD

  • @dustintroydeguzman5411
    @dustintroydeguzman5411 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wish I saw this No Pull series earlier. It would have been a great guide in my run of my main account. Mostly the progression of how to make my characters stronger without wasting and better utilizing my resources. I haven't been lucky with my pulls, mostly getting 3-star cones on the Standard Banner and the 50 pull banner. Haven't touched any Character Banners yet. Anyways, Jarilo-VI was fine, I can handle even the hardest battles fine their. However stupid me went to Equilibrium Level 2 asap forgetting that I haven't prepared yet for the sudden spike in difficulty and so starts my demise. Enemies at Herta Station suddenly 2-3 shotting me is way too much. Thankfully I survived little by little though I am only just beat the Deer Battle. I think I can still use your progress to improve my chances if I use it as a guide since hot damn, Elite and Hard enemies suddenly became actually hard even harder than the boss fights at times.

  • @vindo17
    @vindo17 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    don't ever pull bro. that what keeps your content unique from the others.
    remember, Enviosity falls off once he stars pulling.

  • @maxuhail3868
    @maxuhail3868 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    my opinion is keep going with the warpless, you already did it for more than a year now and i feel it would be a waste to throw that journey (you already have another account with pull so i guess having no pull account could be a flex).

  • @potatom2765
    @potatom2765 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You really should of gotten a Gallagher

  • @solarpanda6253
    @solarpanda6253 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    zmm harmony mc's super break is only effected by the toughness reduction of the attack not break effect

  • @juliogomez2534
    @juliogomez2534 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    There's a new mode coming so I think you should upgrade to standard only. Warpless was a year 1 kind of experience and it has been an insanely fun one but times are changing and you should too.
    Regarding Firefly is kinda hard to say. Just pulling her as a reward for finally achieving a goal is cool. But she must remain as a trophy pull at least until Year 3 when another upgrade happens kind of deal.

  • @amystheticc
    @amystheticc 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    standard only! getting firefly defeats the purpose of the account

  • @LuccarioIX
    @LuccarioIX 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I apreciate the effort in this challenge, it's really fun to watch, I think a standard only account would be cool to have and if things start to get too easy with all the standard characters available, you can always go back to the OGs with some eidolons on them.

  • @colddu
    @colddu 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I don't understand why so many people are struggling with this MOC, when we literally have a patch on a damn Aventurine with the biggest rng dynamic ever.
    Either people don't have good supports because they are new or they just took out all the dps there is, but I felt like this MOC is very passable and forgettable, and add that all of them have a free DrRatio collecting dust

  • @janieceng2153
    @janieceng2153 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this MoC was my easiest one by far and I didn’t even struggle lollll but it’s probably because I play imaginary dps exclusively and this MoC is really good for this

  • @littleice9261
    @littleice9261 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    keep it at least pseudo warpless please, it is very cool seeing you work out solutions to these extreme situations

  • @ladyezmia
    @ladyezmia 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The new MOC had me reset the challenge at every imperfection- took 6 tries for each one LITERALLY just because either an enemy didn’t do a attack I thought they would- or an ult didn’t charge in time

  • @evepsyche
    @evepsyche 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    no matter how much break you give your units, super break is only affected by HMC's own BE and the WEAKNESS BREAK EFFICIENCY of the attack

  • @wishes2393
    @wishes2393 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I do think the second you make any kind of pull, be it standard or event banner, even if it isn't much, people will constantly hold over this challenge that "oh yeah but it's still a pulling account".
    A lot of people will take the accomplishments away, and to be frank the novelty of zero pulls is so much more engaging content wise than standard banner only. I think keeping it 0 pulls makes for a more unique and engaging form of content, and denies anyone who would want to downplay the achievement if you did pull.

  • @Solune-2175
    @Solune-2175 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The new moc 12 gepard is just an hp sponge he does no damage but i cant kill him and kafka in time

  • @lanneta3974
    @lanneta3974 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love how you overcoming the challenge. And if you want to spend your resources - I believe all of us would support your decision. But making it standart only feels like a waste. I think I personally would love to see you getting some overly busted e6 s5 limited charachter. Though there wouldn't be much of a challenge left after that.. But I guess I'd be happy seeing you happy

  • @NNNilo
    @NNNilo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    every time there's a new update or thing like this I always think of how it'll change or affect this account. They could give out a free natasha eidolon and I'd be beaming on how you might use that. Great work mann

  • @charlesmontgomery6395
    @charlesmontgomery6395 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think standard only would be cool! The thing is with a character like Acheron or Firefly, every new stage would result in basically the same team, centered around them. Whereas if you end up with Yanqing, Clara, Welt, or whoever else, even at high eidolons, we’d probably still get to see all this cool teambuilding strategy (and more 4 piece eagle sets, no doubt)

  • @sakamotoverge3194
    @sakamotoverge3194 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The fact that you got this far without pulling says volume of how much experience you had as an player.
    I believe warpless account itself is very valuable so don't pull. But maybe only standard pulls?

  • @NovaEmpyrean
    @NovaEmpyrean 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would like to at least keep seeing pseudo warpless attempts continue with e0 4 stars. Might also be important to keep a track of which lightcones were obtained without warps.

  • @noveliayuki
    @noveliayuki 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I havent finished watching the video, but now i trust you can clear moc12 full stars. You can do it zmm!
    Edit: i came back from the video... sadge. New moc is so unfair, like why do they have so much hp. Its fine though, dont be sad zmm. You did great all the journey, congrats! You should be proud of all you achieved

    • @ProPPlayer
      @ProPPlayer 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      spoiler alert: he absolutely cannot the new moc is insane

    • @StellaTheBoymoder
      @StellaTheBoymoder 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Who decided that an 1.2 million HP Kafka was fair, like even with Dr.Ratio + Topaz (E1) I needed 5 cycles for that stage, now I'm even starting to question if giving him for free was a good idea if it meant that they could inflate the enemies HP bars like this.

    • @user-ii2qt6hj9n
      @user-ii2qt6hj9n 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      For Kafka, u can try break luka( I did it with e4 luka) and hmc. I dont even have rm and luka is dealing 150k enhanced basic and hmc casually doing her own 100k whenever she skills . The superbreak mechanic is op, and I took 3 cycles to clear.

    • @AngelOnerom
      @AngelOnerom 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He is struggling to clear a floor that needs 3.1m damage; there is zero chance he can clear MOC 12 (5.4 m damage). This is a numbers game and a warpless account simply doesn't have what it takes to 36 star this MOC.

    • @bepo1702
      @bepo1702 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      it's endgame content, it's supposed to be challenging. The HP wasn't even an issue for me, it was kafka spamming cc on my entire team and significantly increasing my cycles to clear. If I had huohuo for the kafka stage it would be a joke

  • @jordi5489
    @jordi5489 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think standard pulls with e0 4 stars still keeps the spirit of the challenge alive, and you can limit yourself to not using any gacha lcs if you want

  • @Ben-zk7vr
    @Ben-zk7vr 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think standard only would still be good just don't activate eidolons on standard banner 5 stars and that still would be super impressive but also allow u to potentially beat stuff and it gives u a lot more options to make fun team comps without giving u any op units that trivialise the content but just more interesting units that u can use

  • @lFahrenheit
    @lFahrenheit 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This will be the tenth time i've written this. I completed this moc after 2 full days of attempts. I play so much teams but nothing works and previously i got my 36* with some difficulties but not with so much of them. The meme, swarm, aventurine nothing is comparable in terms of difficulty with this one. It was sooooo much difficult for me. My account is not the best but the units i have are all fully built with max traces, they are not perfect but at least decent. The sad thing is that this moc confirms how the forgotten hall it is becoming more and more a showcase for the 5* in rate up in that particular patch. Of course this was always a thing, of course even if you have them if you don't know how to use them properly you can't get 36* and so on. Despite it all, it was very difficult and this time i'm really happy that i was able to make it

  • @fiora2822
    @fiora2822 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    After you pull I feel like the only way this could go without falling off is standard only to keep the same theme of seeing whats possible with limitations

  • @杰伊尔
    @杰伊尔 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Man... Having this much planning every time to best Moc is a hassle. I could never. I just go with the correct elements, strongest dps and oonga boonga. Respek to you bro.

  • @Toastyz27
    @Toastyz27 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dog please just pull what you want 😭
    Youve definitely earned it and ill still watch

  • @RisingMooon
    @RisingMooon 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i kinda love the idea of standard pulls only. i think itd be a good way to evolve the series while keeping some of its spirit alive :D

  • @kantar8896
    @kantar8896 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love this channel so much for the strategic stuff you do with this. The Warpless stuff is truly amazing.
    I think you should definitely E6S5 someone, but if you really want to keep F2P like challenges, then I suggest just not upgrading the eidelons

  • @killercz7655
    @killercz7655 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the subtle persona music in the background

  • @Idkhiig
    @Idkhiig 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Omg as soon as I heard" Squeeze in another cycle" I pray you with eagle doesn't become like Zyox and vermilion

  • @S0NGB1RDZ
    @S0NGB1RDZ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If your that stressed about your turn ending, I recommend pulling for Robin. Gurl literally gives you a turn on her ult plus additional dmg. BUT your doing the not pulling thingy so..

  • @classicmemer3435
    @classicmemer3435 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So that's why I couldn't get 36 Mfs buffed the mobs to oblivion.

  • @brianmah5965
    @brianmah5965 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    HP has been trending upwards, but giant spikes generally coincide with flat damage procs, or increased damage/vulnerability conditions. A warpless challenge might find this difficult to impossible but I don't think Hoyo has been tuning around ignoring a core game feature.
    I think Hoyo stricly tunes around 4star max eidolons / simps to Limited 5star E0S1. Once I reached this stage for both teams, MOC11-12 have been difficult but not impossible, though I have been fortunate in that I had avoided pulling on hypercarry sledgehammers, and the characters I have pulled on have aged like fine wine.

  • @ERRoRsLand
    @ERRoRsLand 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a relatively new player I 2 starred last moc 11, now I cant even complete moc 9 because of enemy hp and literal one-shots

  • @ratspew932
    @ratspew932 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a new player who only unlocked MoC a few days ago and still can't tackle it bc I only have one team... I'm afraid how much HP the bosses will have by the time I'm in the endgame.

  • @unsimpleoreo9976
    @unsimpleoreo9976 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Even if you lose the challenge, it doesn't mean that the account needs its purpose to be ruined, you can still go on and enjoy it ; i'd go for the standard pulls.
    But in the end it's up to you ^^

  • @_pve
    @_pve 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tbh, I think these runs with limited resources are a lot more interesting than 0 cycle runs. Good job, as always!

  • @bubbly_insomniac2271
    @bubbly_insomniac2271 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    last moc i could get up to floor 11 i didnt 3 star but i was still proud. this moc i cant even get past floor 8, it feels like the hp increase was unnecessary and shouldnt have happened. moc was already difficult but now its borderline impossible

  • @serikazero128
    @serikazero128 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I suggest you go for 1 SSR with each new region, making that character as your "mascot" of sorts for that region.
    So that when all hope is lost, you got a strong unit to also rely on. Ruan Mei for Herta's station, Bronya for Bellabog, Fu Xuan for Xianxiou and FireFly for Penacony could work

    • @youravghuman5231
      @youravghuman5231 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No, that would defeat the purpose of the account. That would just mean that acc is your normal acc now since you're pulling just like anyone and saving for the next char that you like or aka "mascot" that you're saying.

  • @CloverCrunch
    @CloverCrunch 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How about allowing E0 4 star characters (and S1 4 star lc) if they have been promoted on the banner at least 3 times? This will allow Hook, Tingyun, Luka, and Sampo to be added to the line up. Xueyi, Misha, and Gallagher who are the 3 newest characters (edit: and Arlan) will still not be counted since they are so new that many players may not have a chance to get them yet. It's a bit sad to see this account stuck at moc 10 when adding Tingyun, for example, will likely allow this account to push further.

  • @RR-sv3so
    @RR-sv3so 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Honestly standard only is still insane and I would be down for it, great content.

  • @seniorwhite8324
    @seniorwhite8324 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I really enjoyed the journey so far but damn MoC changes 💀. Personally I really liked how you use unconventional characters, teams and tactics to challenge end game so maybe even if you decide to pull I'd personally like to see more of that. So maybe 4* only (characters and LCs) would be nice.

  • @jakit0556
    @jakit0556 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ironic that sushang, the only character that eagle set would be absolutely useless on is the one that saved you

  • @LapisD
    @LapisD 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Standard only would be great, your account would still be majority of 4 stars and all standard 5 stars are considered super mid now, even bronya, so it’s nothing that would make the account “unbalanced”. Plus the eidolons for your 4 stars will be a immense help

  • @mitzi3262
    @mitzi3262 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm curious as to why he never tried hmc and sushang a real break character

  • @SaSPonchICo
    @SaSPonchICo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Keep going for warpless but if you fail - standard only. This would be very interesting as well.

  • @NarukamiPogOsho
    @NarukamiPogOsho 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Keep all 4 stars eidolons at the same level maybe? You can only activate extra eidolons when all characters have the corresponding eidolons?

  • @sofiagianneri4996
    @sofiagianneri4996 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I mean, I think its fair that you use the tickets, just because they are the tickets that the game gives you, you’re not whaling for them, so to me they count in the “free experience” of the game! But its understandable what other says, it could take the charm of the challenge out s

  • @robnoob6820
    @robnoob6820 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    should have picked gallagher but it is what it is

  • @suiseikakero171
    @suiseikakero171 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    New MoC is definitely harder but i didnt 12 star initially due to misplays rather than the difficulty increase.

  • @nojomi8826
    @nojomi8826 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you are gonna pull, go for an e6 character, as after you pull the acc won't really be the same anyways. Anyways, great vid, had me captivated the whole time haha ❤

  • @leenasunay1881
    @leenasunay1881 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Evolving this account into "standard only" is a pretty good idea if you fail warpless. Pseudo-warpless clears without eidolons may also be interesting, but probably not worth the loss of power for the "standard" challenge. You'll probably need that. Maybe, as a compromise, keep E0 only for the characters you have already been using here?

  • @matrixfull
    @matrixfull 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really wish they would add ability to turn off Eidalons so you could always go back to pull-less account challenge. See how far you can get and then switch to X amount of Eidalons and whatnot after X days of trying. that sorta stuff. but yeahh. I will watch no matter what as long as it's hard harsh but possible challenge involved : ]]

  • @Leo-kc2kp
    @Leo-kc2kp 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    8:10 Is this lugia's song from the 2nd pokemon movie? Coz if it is you just earned a new subscriber.

  • @Bunru
    @Bunru 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This guy convinced me to build Eagle

  • @aeowinh
    @aeowinh 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This MoC is more boring than the old one, there energy blessing is nice but the old dmg hit blessing allow more teams to be playable even with not the best investment. The current MoC hp values make it so if you don't have really good relics and good supports to amplify your units dps you are going to struggle a lot.

  • @portalleech2763
    @portalleech2763 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    5hrs and 25k views… my boy you’re cooking the algo!!