Been with my wife now for 24 years ,we met in Pattaya in 2001 she now owns her own salon in uk and earns loads more than me . I wouldn’t have been able to buy a house in uk without her ,almost paid the mortgage never been happier , they are out there 😊
Lol 1st of all emotional bonding , connection is the real fun . Webby’s gf even once offered him to give him some money. Do u have any idea how much freelancer gonna cost u if u don’t have a gf ? 1 times per day * 30 * 2000bhat = 60k bhat / month
Single mums, bar girls are a non-starter for me. I am based in Bangkok and have better relationships with regular women with normal jobs. But in turn you have to learn the language and indulge in the culture to be long term with that kind of women.
Good luck to you mate and long may it last. I've never been to Thailand, but a friend of mine was with a Thai lady for years, and he brought her to my home a few times. She was a nice girl, and since I'd recently divorced was very keen to take me to her village to get a girl. Both of them were sure it was the right move, but I wasn't keen and even though they persisted over a few years it never really was right for me. Anyway after about five or six years I got a phone call to come to a sad celebration of her life, since she had passed, so I went because I liked her and he was upset. He told me she was a genuine person, but there were things he really didn't like, not about her, but the village and the family. He felt like he was the walking ATM and they never let up. They would use personal insults and moral abuse to get money out of him. It's a side of the relationship he never talked about before, though it wasn't really surprising to me. All the youtubers say pretty much the same thing. Mostly it doesn't work, but there are some diamonds out there; to be honest that seems the same as here in UK. Perhaps the money drain is more in Thailand but it's not a rich country, and girls from the villages don't have much in the way of opportunity. Social security is not good for them when they have a child and get left on their own, so it's understandable they look for a shining knight, and then find it's just a transaction, like the Eagles Lying Eyes I wish you genuine luck with this one and also wish her luck. If there is a solid trust between you that's mostly all you need
Used to go to Pattaya with 2 mates when it was real good in the early 90s.All 3 of us ended up married to women from Pattaya and we are all still happily married.The internet and mobile phone fucked Pattaya up.
That's so true you could have a relationship with bar girls 30 40 years ago I first went to Pattaya as a 21 year old in 1991 plenty of men we were married to the bar girls they were the only ones who could speak English and then treated their men like kings not all but most it was good to see.
Hey mate good meeting up with you and really enjoyed the bar crawl. I’m 60 now and seen most things, so if it works for you and you’re happy that’s all that matters. Catch up on my next visit to Thailand 👍
Hi webby met my Mrs in Pattaya 27 yrs ago, been married 25yrs living in uk never asked for anything only love and companionship. We return most years catch up with family and friends. She works shares bills etc, she’s my soul mate and we could not be happier, just sayin 😚
You can take the girl out of the bar but you can not never take the bar out of the girl. I am 60 years old,I have been to pattaya twice and i am going by the end of this month for two months. Pattaya is like giant party that never sleeps, it all business. I do every other day a different girl and never repeat the same one.If you want a genuine girl you have to go to Bangkok or other non touristy town to find a educate girl that's working a normal job not bar girl.Good luck to you men.
3 x not worked for my pal. Last one he married & brought to the UK at great expense. She went straight to work in a parlour & blanked him, cold shoulder from day 1 in the UK. 3 months later claimed spousal abuse and moved out. She Is now on UK bloke number 3. I've found out a lot, there is ready made network for Thai women to vanish into as soon as they want/can, they are in touch with this network b.e.f.o.r.e some patsy pays for the trips, the marriage and the visa. My pal is 60 now, hugely in debt and depressed to hell. Be careful out there! Loving the shirt Webby. 😁
You give your girlfriend free board and lodgings which saves her at least 10000 baht a month that she does not have to pay for out of her salary..... If she has got any sense she will be saving most of her salary for the day she splits from you
@@welshboywebby I’ll be over in Feb for six weeks mate, I’ll pop in to see you, it’s Mike from Caerphilly, gave you a vape in the time bar and helped you out on the live chat with the Pin Messages haha
well welsh boy webby I agree with you ,cannot say anything different. business transaction yes and once the money stops there gone cold heart lol. as for you sounds like u have a good girlfriend doesn't need to send money home monthly etc..30000 bhatt a month some are paying is crazy money but it's up to them there money ...nice video bye the way I always listen to you..
I was married to a Thai lady i met in Patts for 10 years .She had her own business a hair salon ,her parents had passed ,and her womb had been disconnected so she could not have more children .She did have 2 children already staying with her thai ex-husband .One of them came to stay with us .I was fond of her but she was not the love of my life .Soon after meeting we moved up to Chiang mai to live as every one of her friends in Patts were leeches .It ended 5 years ago for various reasons .It was mostly good while it lasted but the ending was bad and we no longer communicate . It lasted as long as it did as she was out most days working in her business and we were not on top of each other .
@@A_Sen_0 Nothing !!! .When she went off with another farang ,i just left Thailand ( I had money problems as well ) .She asked me to help her with the D-I-V-O-R-C-E .I refused so she had to wait a year and get a divorce at the Ampur by reason of my abandonment .Early this year i went myself back to the same Ampur ( Local Government office ) and got a print out for B20 to show /prove that i am divorced .
Be careful because some of these woman play the long game. They don't ask for much initially then things start to escalate slowly. Someone is sick in the family and needs money. The brother needs capital to start a business. She want to build a house and so one.
You are right webby, have a 22 years friend who has just been hooked, he can't see it of course and we no longer speak. .suits me as I have tried and can now sit back and watch it unfold. .love the videos, and will call in the bar in February
If you are looking for a girlfriend / prospective partner in Thailand , it's not advisable to find one in a bar in Pattaya / Phuket , everyone who works in the adult entertainment industry has done so because of money it's that simple .
I just came back from Thailand literally a few minutes ago and met the most amazing, nice and cute girl in a bar in Soi 7. Spent 6 days with her in Patts and BKK and of course I know, that this will not work out, but I wish it would.
Philippines same, province girls amazing sweet, loyal, so kind and loving. Live with you and you support them of course and pay for everything. Stops you drinking and healthy food. Win, win.
Most of the time is the foreigner is dating " out of their league" if a man is 55 overweight and dating a 23 year old slim westerner it will also be about money 1 way support
If you are fit, 10% body fat and going out with a stunner in your home country - guess what happens if you lose your job and cannot support her anymore? Exactly the same thing.
I do understand it's in their culture to support but if a man find a genuine Thai lady outside the bar scene older than 30 you might still have to support but the love can be genuine and she will not just take advantage for the sake of it.
As an old merchant mariner I will retell the story I got from I Filipino Chief Officer I onced sailed with: He was always dreading to go home because he knew the whole family would be there to greet him when he went home (needing money), and they would all disapear when he ran out of money! Tough luck being rich around poor family - it is lose money or family (girlfriend in this case)... lose lose! But I will never accept that the chance of finding love in Pattaya is zero, or at least that will be the time I will find different places to go. I will go and have fun, while I am looking for the one, but I am not holding my breath for it. Besides of all that I do think Pattaya is getting worse, it is more and more about short time and less about fun. So far I will still find my fun around town.
For a relationship to work in Pattaya, you have to become part of their family and friends, as you did when you were younger in the UK meeting girls. If you see them as just a great night out, they see you the same way and it won't work
love in pattaya, it's not hard, is impossible , simply due to only money transmission , fantasy and illusion, nothing else it's called Wallet relationship !!!
Hi Steve, I've been with a bargirl for about 1 year. And first I did send her money because she said that she needed it to send to her 3 children, but every time I would send her money she would post pictures on Facebook of her and her bargirl mates out getting pissed. when I went with her to visit the family in Buriram her children were wearing rags and looked so skinny. So when you send money to these girls they are putting themselves before their family also most bargirls are drinking large amounts of alcohol every day and have now become dependant on it. I have stopped sending her money now and am just waiting to see how long it will be before she blows me out. I just feel sorry for the kids with alcoholic mothers.
It's their culture for the children to care for the parents. If you don't want her to work, you should pay. These girls may love you but they love their family too.
No chance in Pattaya Jomtien as the Thais are only after money working there…it’s a business…as it’s been proven over the yrs…your seen as an ATM…nothing else…so Jst play the game and see 1 wen you want…good if your gf has a normal job there it might work
Go to Thailand to have fun, if you want a girlfriend just remember you're taking a massive risk. Why drag emotions into play. Unless you're hardened you're going to get hurt at some point. Pattaya is like a drug to me, got burned the 1st time before covid. If i get keen on a girl now i keep her at arms length. Really having fun and i intend keeping it that way. Good luck to everyone. 😊
A freelancer and I fell in love; she lived with me for a while. But she was always threatening to go find clients and customers when she needed money. Not cool
Great summary Webby. You've nailed it - no money no honey. Nothing wrong with those relationships so long as the punter is aware it's a business transaction (like your friend). It's the fools who end up with a hot chick half their age and believe its true love that come a cropper. Yes there are the rare acceptions but very rare.
You found a good girl m8. There are not many like her not having to send money back to her family a kids. I know 1st hand how hard it is to find someone like her here in Thailand.
I was with my Thai gf in bkk for 18 months. Non bar worker. She was a nice girl. No kids .. Rarely asked for money. She spent half her week here with me & half with her sister in their room. Sadly we have now parted ways but are still in touch .. I told her yes to save money too for a trip we were going on as I said I was not paying for everything. Once we split she sent a video of her withdrawing 40,000b from her bank 😅 which she spent half of it on her birthday weekend , then a few weeks later she sent me 5000b .. they are not all gold diggers .. but it’s not easy finding one …
That's great she a Bangkok girl it's the issan women are gold diggers stay clear of them and u will be ok .I know 2 girls on soi6 and never ask for money other than drinks in bar so it's the issan women run a mile from then
@jonhobson3592 yes good for u I wasn't that lucky when first went to pattaya and was a few thousand into a few girls gold money for family never again met another girl in pattaya that's not from issan and she doesn't ask for money and is going to wait for me to move to Thailand in a year time when we can be together so there are girls out there but not issan girls .
@ ok , sorry 😔 about that. Good luck. I’m now just alone most of the time. See the odd massage lady after work and some bar girls. But certainly not rushing into another relationship 🙏
I'm way past 45 and Pattaya is largely the only destination I have been returning to on a getaway from the home country. But I've realized subliminally that if it's a real relationship ( one as basic as a relationship not based on money) I am going to have to look for it in the home country where both are citizens. Being just like the hunter that I was from my teens to early 40's to find it. Never did I ever order from a menu at those ages, not until I went past 45. But if one finds that, the sacrifice of great pleasures like visiting and spending extended periods of time in Pattaya will be the price to pay for that relationship.
I tried the pay to play for 8 months with a 24 year Thai girl it was good in the beginning we were together 24/7 and she wanted to get really serious and I said I’d love that but if we truly are going to be girlfriend boyfriend this is what I’m will to do for every month, she didn’t have a kid and only had a small motorbike payment which I agreed to pay plus 10,000 baht for beauty and cloths so she’d had a little of her own money. Well it was good for about 2 months and she’d been talking with a friend and her American boyfriend was paying her 30,000 baht per month so she comes to me and demands 30,000 I said no we had a agreement and she said then you don’t love me I said ok I’ll help you pack your shit up, so she left and it was only about 24 hours and the I’m sorry I love you text start and I said no you don’t if you loved me you’d still be here under our agreement. Well then came the fire and piss that Thai girls are famous for complete bat shit crazy. No more pay to play for this guy.
@ yes they like to play games, once you’ve been around long enough you learn they all say the same same, I often wonder do they have a playbook they all read. How many times have you heard this, how long you work bar, I just start this week lol 😂
I have a thai girlfriend in the uk 🇬🇧 she's been here 20 years and speaks fluent English. I still go back to pattaya with the boys for a crack. Some of the girls are gorgeous, but after 20 mins, the conversions are boring tbh. The language barrier is a big problem imo. What do you talk about with a girl probably half your age and she speaks limited English. I'd be bored after a week, lol 😅 short time then 👋
Nice video as always. I think you need to forget about western concepts of relationships when in thailand. The values are completeley different. Even the Thais are expected to shell out and showing not to lose face and keeping up appearances is a big thing
I cant see the benefit of staying with 1 girl in south east asia.....variety is the spice of life. I like them my age, younger, much younger and the occasional GILF. After 2 or 3 days they all do your head in...but each to their own as they say.
that's the way to do it,who knows how long it will stay that way,but hey a heart of stone and plenty of other girls is the right way to look at it in Pattaya🎉
Yes you are in a business transaction your paying the food the rent the water the electricity . If you want to pay for to be happy then thats completely up to you. You are correct about relationships with a girl in Pattaya. But so many get sucked in by these women and makes me laugh....Nice to see you know what your doing.
Is it realistic to get a lady that is for want of a better word, higher rankings than the other girls you see? So sure it might cost to have an experience where you share moments that are more special than with a stranger and when you bring another girl home, she does not get bent out of shape and if anything is like an instructor for the random girl demonstrating and showing her how you like things. Is this a realistic expectation?
Your GF hasn't asked for money in 8 months. One of two outcomes here, I think. 1. You've found the goose that lays golden eggs. 2. She's playing the long game. Money requests may come later. I know you will say, if the sick buffalo crops up, that you'll simply move on. Depends where your stone heart sits on the Mohs scale. Either way, if you're happy doing what you do, fair play, butt.
If you wish to find a Decent girl for a proper and long relationship you probably better start looking in Bangkok. Lots of independent, hard working girls with a great command of English language. Pattaya is a Party place where girls going just to earn money and have fun. I been to Thailand so many times and I really like Thai girls but unfortunately I founded very hard to trust them at least the ones working in bars. Cool Video Webby! Cheers Mate 👍👍👍
Not a great idea. The problem is that you’re always looking at a new model every so often. Soon you’re well known about town. If you can really afford to retire in Thai then live in Pattaya, go to Bangkok for dirty weekend. Only need that every couple of weeks. Keeps life simple.
There are loads of girls on TF who live with farang " boyfriends " and when the cat is out playing the mouse is out playing too This is fact 💯 I once had a girl from TF who could only make certain times and days when her live in boyfriend was playing pool in a pool league 😂
Lol Its a previlage that u can break up or dvorce. In past most wman even if separated used to not give dvorce. & break up lol they file breach of promise of marage cases to force the man to maryyy. I born on a very conservative country , there situation is still like that
If one falls in love with a bar girl and she moves in with you.....Only let her move in if she agrees to stay in the bar and only work as a drinks Queen no going out for st ot lt.... You provide board, food and lodgings..... she earns her own money to send to her family...Job a good 'un. Whilst she is in the bar working one can have ones fun being a butterfly and getting as much fun below the waistline as one wants. This is Pattaya after all
The ones that believe their girlfriend 😂 is only working in the bar as a cashier or working for drinks only are the biggest mugs …. Unless you don’t care if she is getting an oil change in the toilet …. Or when she nips out for food with her mate 😂 😂
No they are after money and family support 99% of the time rent by the night is the way to go and forget all this lovey dovey stuff the cash sums demanded will increase the longer you are with them
Hi webby. I start this off. Exactly is the word! A girlfriend should just be a normal girlfriend anywhere in the world. Business transaction is anything completely different. I know a guy that pays a girl 40/50 baht every month to not work in the bars. He lives in one place and her Thailand. For me it’s all crazy. And alas you say. Soon as the money goes does she hang around for you ? Emm no in the answer. You have a heart of stone good keep it that way 😂
Steve ur openly cheating on your girlfriend, how can she be ok with that BTW I have been following you for a couple of years now and I enjoy your videos, so this comment is not coming from a nasty place
Enjoy in the uk i payed for everything as my wife at the time had a low income so no difference, and she is young worth every penny if you have the money to pay them dont see a problem but at 25 shewill want a baby
Its very hard to find love whatever country you are in, its always about money and what you can provide, unless you are very lucky. I was one of the lucky ones that found a career girl, fell in love, very little family ties, and we are lucky and very happy together. But I know just as many men in the UK which have been taken to the cleaners by a woman, as i do with with Thai women. But I would never date a bar girl, all I've ever seen is bad luck stories, and men that get taken to the cleaners, but if you keep it transactional then its all good.
Very lucky to find girl you have.I remember freind who was married same as you have,She walked in one day and said she would sign everything over to him.Because she had met rich man.Things there can change with the blink of a eye.Maybe one day .will tell you my story.Your first words will be that does not make sense.Am i bitter no .Confussed yes.But im confussed about everything in todays world.
@@rvajna please do not try to tell me something about thailand i have known for 40 years.i first went there in 1985 and lived there for 12 years.untill 7 years ago.my girlfreind did not loose face.
@@henkdejong9051 Thai culture.Make them embarressed.,its hard to explain.With girl she is looked on lower than boy.So she needs to bring in money. to get respect while she gives money at that moment.in time with man ,if he feels embarresed.Looked down upon by others.
Get 1 your own age that helps lol . Ive been with my one 7y and she has her own money never ask me for anything. I do pay the apartment but that is the same when i lived with british girls.
I agree .Patts is chock full of leeches and scammers .If they are not like that when they arrive they soon will be after talking with their sisters .Come to Pattaya for fun but understand that its Toy-land and its just for fun.
@@A_Sen_0 Yup, something in that range. It would probably wipe out a lot of people's retirement savings. The other problem is that you and the lady are going to have little in common, as you are from different cultures and age groups. This makes arguing somewhat inevitable over the course of a 21 year relationship.
Been with my wife now for 24 years ,we met in Pattaya in 2001 she now owns her own salon in uk and earns loads more than me .
I wouldn’t have been able to buy a house in uk without her ,almost paid the mortgage never been happier , they are out there 😊
You're a very lucky man. Be grateful.
You meet her before she got corrupted by the smart phone, its different now.
Congratulations to you both and hope you have many more happy years together ❤️
Both 22 years old when we met
You took the gamble and its paid off but it must of been a 20,000 to 1 shot .
Best to live on your own and see one when your in the mood I think
Absolutely 100%, but we’re all different I suppose
Lol
1st of all emotional bonding , connection is the real fun .
Webby’s gf even once offered him to give him some money.
Do u have any idea how much freelancer gonna cost u if u don’t have a gf ?
1 times per day * 30 * 2000bhat = 60k bhat / month
Spot on.
you nailed it
gimmie gimmie gimmie that's all they are,there ain't real love,it's rental nothing more
Single mums, bar girls are a non-starter for me. I am based in Bangkok and have better relationships with regular women with normal jobs. But in turn you have to learn the language and indulge in the culture to be long term with that kind of women.
Good luck to you mate and long may it last. I've never been to Thailand, but a friend of mine was with a Thai lady for years, and he brought her to my home a few times. She was a nice girl, and since I'd recently divorced was very keen to take me to her village to get a girl. Both of them were sure it was the right move, but I wasn't keen and even though they persisted over a few years it never really was right for me.
Anyway after about five or six years I got a phone call to come to a sad celebration of her life, since she had passed, so I went because I liked her and he was upset. He told me she was a genuine person, but there were things he really didn't like, not about her, but the village and the family. He felt like he was the walking ATM and they never let up. They would use personal insults and moral abuse to get money out of him. It's a side of the relationship he never talked about before, though it wasn't really surprising to me.
All the youtubers say pretty much the same thing. Mostly it doesn't work, but there are some diamonds out there; to be honest that seems the same as here in UK. Perhaps the money drain is more in Thailand but it's not a rich country, and girls from the villages don't have much in the way of opportunity. Social security is not good for them when they have a child and get left on their own, so it's understandable they look for a shining knight, and then find it's just a transaction, like the Eagles Lying Eyes
I wish you genuine luck with this one and also wish her luck. If there is a solid trust between you that's mostly all you need
Thank you for amazing comment
If you can accept that it is also a business relationship, you can be happy with a Thai girlfriend.
Used to go to Pattaya with 2 mates when it was real good in the early 90s.All 3 of us ended up married to women from Pattaya and we are all still happily married.The internet and mobile phone fucked Pattaya up.
That's so true you could have a relationship with bar girls 30 40 years ago I first went to Pattaya as a 21 year old in 1991 plenty of men we were married to the bar girls they were the only ones who could speak English and then treated their men like kings not all but most it was good to see.
Thanks for sharing
Hey mate good meeting up with you and really enjoyed the bar crawl. I’m 60 now and seen most things, so if it works for you and you’re happy that’s all that matters. Catch up on my next visit to Thailand 👍
Cheers 🍻
@ cheers mate 🍺🍺
Hi webby met my Mrs in Pattaya 27 yrs ago, been married 25yrs living in uk never asked for anything only love and companionship. We return most years catch up with family and friends. She works shares bills etc, she’s my soul mate and we could not be happier, just sayin 😚
Amazing well done
You can take the girl out of the bar but you can not never take the bar out of the girl. I am 60 years old,I have been to pattaya twice and i am going by the end of this month for two months. Pattaya is like giant party that never sleeps, it all business. I do every other day a different girl and never repeat the same one.If you want a genuine girl you have to go to Bangkok or other non touristy town to find a educate girl that's working a normal job not bar girl.Good luck to you men.
@@mcelmar1234 it's obvious you haven't been much before if you're repeating that old cliché,lot of women in Pattaya,not all the same
3 x not worked for my pal. Last one he married & brought to the UK at great expense. She went straight to work in a parlour & blanked him, cold shoulder from day 1 in the UK. 3 months later claimed spousal abuse and moved out. She Is now on UK bloke number 3. I've found out a lot, there is ready made network for Thai women to vanish into as soon as they want/can, they are in touch with this network b.e.f.o.r.e some patsy pays for the trips, the marriage and the visa. My pal is 60 now, hugely in debt and depressed to hell. Be careful out there!
Loving the shirt Webby. 😁
Loving the comment mate
@@saltaireorangebicyclechopp8555 it can happen horrible thing love
You give your girlfriend free board and lodgings which saves her at least 10000 baht a month that she does not have to pay for out of her salary..... If she has got any sense she will be saving most of her salary for the day she splits from you
Spot on
100% I told her to start saving
@@welshboywebby I’ll be over in Feb for six weeks mate, I’ll pop in to see you, it’s Mike from Caerphilly, gave you a vape in the time bar and helped you out on the live chat with the Pin Messages haha
@@welshboywebbylol awesome 😂😂😂
well welsh boy webby I agree with you ,cannot say anything different. business transaction yes and once the money stops there gone cold heart lol. as for you sounds like u have a good girlfriend doesn't need to send money home monthly etc..30000 bhatt a month some are paying is crazy money but it's up to them there money ...nice video bye the way I always listen to you..
I was married to a Thai lady i met in Patts for 10 years .She had her own business a hair salon ,her parents had passed ,and her womb had been disconnected so she could not have more children .She did have 2 children already staying with her thai ex-husband .One of them came to stay with us .I was fond of her but she was not the love of my life .Soon after meeting we moved up to Chiang mai to live as every one of her friends in Patts were leeches .It ended 5 years ago for various reasons .It was mostly good while it lasted but the ending was bad and we no longer communicate . It lasted as long as it did as she was out most days working in her business and we were not on top of each other .
How much dvorce in thailand costed u?
@@A_Sen_0 Nothing !!! .When she went off with another farang ,i just left Thailand ( I had money problems as well ) .She asked me to help her with the D-I-V-O-R-C-E .I refused so she had to wait a year and get a divorce at the Ampur by reason of my abandonment .Early this year i went myself back to the same Ampur ( Local Government office ) and got a print out for B20 to show /prove that i am divorced .
Be careful because some of these woman play the long game. They don't ask for much initially then things start to escalate slowly. Someone is sick in the family and needs money. The brother needs capital to start a business. She want to build a house and so one.
100% agree
Many of these women like to show off and want to have the biggest house in the village. Same in the Philippines.
You are right webby, have a 22 years friend who has just been hooked, he can't see it of course and we no longer speak. .suits me as I have tried and can now sit back and watch it unfold. .love the videos, and will call in the bar in February
If you are looking for a girlfriend / prospective partner in Thailand , it's not advisable to find one in a bar in Pattaya / Phuket , everyone who works in the adult entertainment industry has done so because of money it's that simple .
Don’t waste money on them just have them when you like there’s plenty to go at
I just came back from Thailand literally a few minutes ago and met the most amazing, nice and cute girl in a bar in Soi 7. Spent 6 days with her in Patts and BKK and of course I know, that this will not work out, but I wish it would.
Wake up from your dream.enjoy while it lasts
Dont talk too her at all until you return then ask too catch up do it all again..its important too disconnect once you return
what was the damage? $$$😂🎉
@@brettchun38 money wise it was surprisingly very manageable however moving on "emotionally" might not be super easy 😅
You can find true love anywhere, depends on both people.
I agree with you 100%
Philippines same, province girls amazing sweet, loyal, so kind and loving. Live with you and you support them of course and pay for everything. Stops you drinking and healthy food. Win, win.
Happy Thursday brilliant video true advice and great stories ✌️💯
Cheers mate
Most of the time is the foreigner is dating " out of their league" if a man is 55 overweight and dating a 23 year old slim westerner it will also be about money 1 way support
So true 👍
If you are fit, 10% body fat and going out with a stunner in your home country - guess what happens if you lose your job and cannot support her anymore?
Exactly the same thing.
I do understand it's in their culture to support but if a man find a genuine Thai lady outside the bar scene older than 30 you might still have to support but the love can be genuine and she will not just take advantage for the sake of it.
As an old merchant mariner I will retell the story I got from I Filipino Chief Officer I onced sailed with:
He was always dreading to go home because he knew the whole family would be there to greet him when he went home (needing money), and they would all disapear when he ran out of money!
Tough luck being rich around poor family - it is lose money or family (girlfriend in this case)... lose lose!
But I will never accept that the chance of finding love in Pattaya is zero, or at least that will be the time I will find different places to go.
I will go and have fun, while I am looking for the one, but I am not holding my breath for it.
Besides of all that I do think Pattaya is getting worse, it is more and more about short time and less about fun. So far I will still find my fun around town.
Great comment
It works if you can afford it , and those who say different, dont realise how wealthy they are.
For a relationship to work in Pattaya, you have to become part of their family and friends, as you did when you were younger in the UK meeting girls. If you see them as just a great night out, they see you the same way and it won't work
love in pattaya, it's not hard, is impossible , simply due to only money transmission , fantasy and illusion, nothing else it's called Wallet relationship !!!
Hahah
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married 16 years in uk.met in wonderal2.
Whatever works for you and as long as your happy 👍
Fair point as long as your honest with yourself.
Absolutely
Hi Steve, I've been with a bargirl for about 1 year. And first I did send her money because she said that she needed it to send to her 3 children, but every time I would send her money she would post pictures on Facebook of her and her bargirl mates out getting pissed. when I went with her to visit the family in Buriram her children were wearing rags and looked so skinny. So when you send money to these girls they are putting themselves before their family also most bargirls are drinking large amounts of alcohol every day and have now become dependant on it. I have stopped sending her money now and am just waiting to see how long it will be before she blows me out. I just feel sorry for the kids with alcoholic mothers.
Money stops she says bye bye thai style.on to her next victim
Great comment 👍
It's their culture for the children to care for the parents. If you don't want her to work, you should pay. These girls may love you but they love their family too.
Agree with a lot of what you said 😊
No chance in Pattaya Jomtien as the Thais are only after money working there…it’s a business…as it’s been proven over the yrs…your seen as an ATM…nothing else…so Jst play the game and see 1 wen you want…good if your gf has a normal job there it might work
Totally agree..who wants baggage..all the best Dan 😊
Go to Thailand to have fun, if you want a girlfriend just remember you're taking a massive risk. Why drag emotions into play. Unless you're hardened you're going to get hurt at some point. Pattaya is like a drug to me, got burned the 1st time before covid. If i get keen on a girl now i keep her at arms length. Really having fun and i intend keeping it that way. Good luck to everyone. 😊
A freelancer and I fell in love; she lived with me for a while. But she was always threatening to go find clients and customers when she needed money.
Not cool
They all do that mate, I'd just say do what you want bye
@@welshboywebbyno webby you say up to you😂
your spot on.......
Great summary Webby. You've nailed it - no money no honey. Nothing wrong with those relationships so long as the punter is aware it's a business transaction (like your friend). It's the fools who end up with a hot chick half their age and believe its true love that come a cropper. Yes there are the rare acceptions but very rare.
Spot on
Bang on advice mate
You found a good girl m8. There are not many like her not having to send money back to her family a kids. I know 1st hand how hard it is to find someone like her here in Thailand.
Cheers
They are not gfs...just work to them and they do not have emotional feelings for a customer..just work.
May be for u.
They gave me & wbby
Frrebies .
@A_Sen_0 Freebies..😄
I was with my Thai gf in bkk for 18 months. Non bar worker. She was a nice girl. No kids .. Rarely asked for money. She spent half her week here with me & half with her sister in their room. Sadly we have now parted ways but are still in touch .. I told her yes to save money too for a trip we were going on as I said I was not paying for everything. Once we split she sent a video of her withdrawing 40,000b from her bank 😅 which she spent half of it on her birthday weekend , then a few weeks later she sent me 5000b .. they are not all gold diggers .. but it’s not easy finding one …
That's great she a Bangkok girl it's the issan women are gold diggers stay clear of them and u will be ok .I know 2 girls on soi6 and never ask for money other than drinks in bar so it's the issan women run a mile from then
@ some .. she from Ubon Isaan lol 😑😅
@ I didn’t lose a baht to her really. Only paid for a couple of short holidays. No money demands at all .. 👍
@jonhobson3592 yes good for u I wasn't that lucky when first went to pattaya and was a few thousand into a few girls gold money for family never again met another girl in pattaya that's not from issan and she doesn't ask for money and is going to wait for me to move to Thailand in a year time when we can be together so there are girls out there but not issan girls .
@ ok , sorry 😔 about that. Good luck. I’m now just alone most of the time. See the odd massage lady after work and some bar girls. But certainly not rushing into another relationship 🙏
Your living the dream bud 🙂
I have been the last few years
@welshboywebby I know, I've seen all your vids
Including the castle's back home 😂🤣
It’s called the long waiting game for you give it another 6 months gold
You nailed it, by naming the 2 options
The only way it works is open relationship or pay for play 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Heading towards the 10k subs, keep it up (no pun intended).
Hahaa cheers
Webby you introduced me to your girlfriend last Sunday. All I Will say is your a lucky man 😉
Cheers mate
So was your girlfriend working in a bar Webby now she works In a office ?
Yes mate 👏
I'm way past 45 and Pattaya is largely the only destination I have been returning to on a getaway from the home country. But I've realized subliminally that if it's a real relationship ( one as basic as a relationship not based on money) I am going to have to look for it in the home country where both are citizens. Being just like the hunter that I was from my teens to early 40's to find it. Never did I ever order from a menu at those ages, not until I went past 45. But if one finds that, the sacrifice of great pleasures like visiting and spending extended periods of time in Pattaya will be the price to pay for that relationship.
Even if he pays 50000 b per month he will have to pay if he stays single ….. basically girls cost money universally the rule
I tried the pay to play for 8 months with a 24 year Thai girl it was good in the beginning we were together 24/7 and she wanted to get really serious and I said I’d love that but if we truly are going to be girlfriend boyfriend this is what I’m will to do for every month, she didn’t have a kid and only had a small motorbike payment which I agreed to pay plus 10,000 baht for beauty and cloths so she’d had a little of her own money. Well it was good for about 2 months and she’d been talking with a friend and her American boyfriend was paying her 30,000 baht per month so she comes to me and demands 30,000 I said no we had a agreement and she said then you don’t love me I said ok I’ll help you pack your shit up, so she left and it was only about 24 hours and the I’m sorry I love you text start and I said no you don’t if you loved me you’d still be here under our agreement. Well then came the fire and piss that Thai girls are famous for complete bat shit crazy. No more pay to play for this guy.
100% the amount of times I've heard that girls saying she has more
@ yes they like to play games, once you’ve been around long enough you learn they all say the same same, I often wonder do they have a playbook they all read. How many times have you heard this, how long you work bar, I just start this week lol 😂
I have a thai girlfriend in the uk 🇬🇧 she's been here 20 years and speaks fluent English. I still go back to pattaya with the boys for a crack. Some of the girls are gorgeous, but after 20 mins, the conversions are boring tbh. The language barrier is a big problem imo. What do you talk about with a girl probably half your age and she speaks limited English.
I'd be bored after a week, lol 😅 short time then 👋
Nice video as always. I think you need to forget about western concepts of relationships when in thailand. The values are completeley different. Even the Thais are expected to shell out and showing not to lose face and keeping up appearances is a big thing
I cant see the benefit of staying with 1 girl in south east asia.....variety is the spice of life. I like them my age, younger, much younger and the occasional GILF. After 2 or 3 days they all do your head in...but each to their own as they say.
that's the way to do it,who knows how long it will stay that way,but hey a heart of stone and plenty of other girls is the right way to look at it in Pattaya🎉
Spot on
Spot on!
Spot on
Yes you are in a business transaction your paying the food the rent the water the electricity . If you want to pay for to be happy then thats completely up to you. You are correct about relationships with a girl in Pattaya. But so many get sucked in by these women and makes me laugh....Nice to see you know what your doing.
Is it realistic to get a lady that is for want of a better word, higher rankings than the other girls you see?
So sure it might cost to have an experience where you share moments that are more special than with a stranger and when you bring another girl home, she does not get bent out of shape and if anything is like an instructor for the random girl demonstrating and showing her how you like things.
Is this a realistic expectation?
Your GF hasn't asked for money in 8 months. One of two outcomes here, I think.
1. You've found the goose that lays golden eggs.
2. She's playing the long game. Money requests may come later.
I know you will say, if the sick buffalo crops up, that you'll simply move on. Depends where your stone heart sits on the Mohs scale. Either way, if you're happy doing what you do, fair play, butt.
Great comment
If you wish to find a Decent girl for a proper and long relationship you probably better start looking in Bangkok. Lots of independent, hard working girls with a great command of English language. Pattaya is a Party place where girls going just to earn money and have fun. I been to Thailand so many times and I really like Thai girls but unfortunately I founded very hard to trust them at least the ones working in bars. Cool Video Webby! Cheers Mate 👍👍👍
dta
Not a great idea. The problem is that you’re always looking at a new model every so often. Soon you’re well known about town. If you can really afford to retire in Thai then live in Pattaya, go to Bangkok for dirty weekend. Only need that every couple of weeks. Keeps life simple.
I couldn't think of any worse than going to Bangkok every week
Best advice is to rent and never buy
There are loads of girls on TF who live with farang " boyfriends " and when the cat is out playing the mouse is out playing too
This is fact 💯
I once had a girl from TF who could only make certain times and days when her live in boyfriend was playing pool in a pool league 😂
Haha
In your situation, i think you will find she sends what she would pay in rent around 4-5k a month from her own wages ?
Webby- I’m genuinely worried about you. Opening a bar in Pattaya, Bar Girl GF. Mate, watch your back, heart of stone or not.
Cheers but I'm 100% fine nothing to worry about here
Notice all the relationships that worked out are more than 20 years ago. Before smart phones & dating apps
Lol
Its a previlage that u can break up or dvorce.
In past most wman even if separated used to not give dvorce.
& break up lol they file breach of promise of marage cases to force the man to maryyy.
I born on a very conservative country , there situation is still like that
No
If one falls in love with a bar girl and she moves in with you.....Only let her move in if she agrees to stay in the bar and only work as a drinks Queen no going out for st ot lt.... You provide board, food and lodgings..... she earns her own money to send to her family...Job a good 'un. Whilst she is in the bar working one can have ones fun being a butterfly and getting as much fun below the waistline as one wants. This is Pattaya after all
Spot on
The ones that believe their girlfriend 😂 is only working in the bar as a cashier or working for drinks only are the biggest mugs …. Unless you don’t care if she is getting an oil change in the toilet …. Or when she nips out for food with her mate 😂 😂
Pointless
Pump and dump
@@Only2Genders-i2v💯
No they are after money and family support 99% of the time
rent by the night is the way to go and forget all this lovey dovey stuff
the cash sums demanded will increase the longer you are with them
The answer is NO .
Thank me later
Good on you Webby
Av been with mine 10 years need to find right 1
A trancastion is a transactions webby. 25 years old 40 something old. Only you know the anwsers webby. Nobody else
Ffs webby! You’ve broken the 3 day rule 😱
3 day rule are for people on holiday that fall in love easy
3 day rule is for newbies, once you've got a few trips under the belt, the 3 fuck rule comes into play, and that's only if she isn't a starfish
As long as your happy nowt to do with eny one else mate
Long as you're happy ats the main thing m8
Hi webby. I start this off. Exactly is the word! A girlfriend should just be a normal girlfriend anywhere in the world. Business transaction is anything completely different. I know a guy that pays a girl 40/50 baht every month to not work in the bars. He lives in one place and her Thailand. For me it’s all crazy. And alas you say. Soon as the money goes does she hang around for you ? Emm no in the answer. You have a heart of stone good keep it that way 😂
Thanks the plan mate
Best bar girl,..... No kids, no mother or father......no brothers or sisters,......hard to find but not impossible
Spoke sense there Steve 👍👍
Cheers
Steve ur openly cheating on your girlfriend, how can she be ok with that
BTW I have been following you for a couple of years now and I enjoy your videos, so this comment is not coming from a nasty place
Hi mate, I'll have a chat if I ever meet you. Thanks for following me
It calls ethical non monogamy .
Polyamory , open marrage exists.
Also no kings ever was monogamous . Monogamy is for weak lol
Enjoy in the uk i payed for everything as my wife at the time had a low income so no difference, and she is young worth every penny if you have the money to pay them dont see a problem but at 25 shewill want a baby
100% she wants a baby, I camt have anymore so that may be a massive problem
Sounds like u just want another girl but don't really care that much 4 her!x
Way off the mark, mate 👍
@welshboywebby I'm not saying I'm right as I obviously haven't got a clue how u really feel but that's how it came across 2 me!x
Its very hard to find love whatever country you are in, its always about money and what you can provide, unless you are very lucky. I was one of the lucky ones that found a career girl, fell in love, very little family ties, and we are lucky and very happy together. But I know just as many men in the UK which have been taken to the cleaners by a woman, as i do with with Thai women. But I would never date a bar girl, all I've ever seen is bad luck stories, and men that get taken to the cleaners, but if you keep it transactional then its all good.
Im in Pattaya and cannot be arsed with these knocked out wrong'ns.
They can 8low me then go away.
I Know relationships Work in pattaya i was Married to a ladyboy for 8 years she near had it cut off no kits but we were happy
Easy to get girlfriend long as ur paying for everything why not
No comment 😊.
Short answer: NO 😂😂😂
Edit: Not in Pattaya
Yes it's called a free loading transaction webby.. your still paying..
Hahaah
The only thing you need to know about having a girlfriend from Pattaya is…
To not have a girlfriend from Pattaya.
Hahaha true
Very lucky to find girl you have.I remember freind who was married same as you have,She walked in one day and said she would sign everything over to him.Because she had met rich man.Things there can change with the blink of a eye.Maybe one day .will tell you my story.Your first words will be that does not make sense.Am i bitter no .Confussed yes.But im confussed about everything in todays world.
A Thai girl can walk out on you and you will never see her again if you make her lose face especially in front of her family and friends.
@@rvajna please do not try to tell me something about thailand i have known for 40 years.i first went there in 1985 and lived there for 12 years.untill 7 years ago.my girlfreind did not loose face.
@@t147han What is loose face?
@@henkdejong9051 Thai culture.Make them embarressed.,its hard to explain.With girl she is looked on lower than boy.So she needs to bring in money. to get respect while she gives money at that moment.in time with man ,if he feels embarresed.Looked down upon by others.
Very lucky to find girl you have.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Get 1 your own age that helps lol . Ive been with my one 7y and she has her own money never ask me for anything. I do pay the apartment but that is the same when i lived with british girls.
eeeewww 53 no thanks 🤮😂
@brettchun38 lol yeah i wouldnt do that i was lucky moving to asia in my 20s
Good call that matey 👍
Surprised this video came up thought you next vid would of been about your new bar
You said you was taking over on the 4th you having problems fella
No problems loving my bar and life, what would you like me to say about my bar ?
Not when she's half your age 😂😂😂
Haahah
You are talking common sense.😊
Cheers
If your looking for love don't go too Pattaya simple.🤣
I love you comments nick your always full of joy 😊 😃
@@welshboywebby 25yrs off telling it as it is.😀
I agree .Patts is chock full of leeches and scammers .If they are not like that when they arrive they soon will be after talking with their sisters .Come to Pattaya for fun but understand that its Toy-land and its just for fun.
Hey up Webbo we have arrived in Jontiem! What’s address to your bar? Thanks
413, 143 Thappraya Rd, Pattaya City, Bang Lamung District, Chon Buri 20150
It's the main strip opposite Maggie mays Jomtien
Thank you 🙏
It’s cheaper to just pay them per night? And get a different one every night
Everyone's got a plan until she gets PREGNANT!!!!!
Then what? What Happens if she git prego ?
I think max loss will be 10k -15 k bhat / month
Child support for 21 years ??
@@A_Sen_0 Yup, something in that range. It would probably wipe out a lot of people's retirement savings. The other problem is that you and the lady are going to have little in common, as you are from different cultures and age groups. This makes arguing somewhat inevitable over the course of a 21 year relationship.
@@jeffbrunswick5511
Yup . Thats why webby( we all) did vasectomy