This is the best review of the two shoe types that i`ve seen. I wish you had done it in a spot with less background noise but I have not seen a more detailed examination of the shoes. Brilliant!
I have both. For racing, I definitely will use the Vaporfly Next %. It has better cushion, lighter, and seems to give a better boost. Carbon X is perfect for the long run.
Nice insights on both shoes. I have the Carbon X and VF FK 4% (and will probably get the Next % when it is more readily available) and despite not being a hardcore runner, it's obvious there is a big difference between the X and VF. I enjoy both, but the VF is in a class of its own (for better or worse); just a completely different feel than anything else I've tried along with that ultra high pricepoint. That said, the X seems more versatile and I end up using them more frequently.
It seems like Nike considered weight a lot and removed a lot. However, since the Hoka splits the carbon plate, I wonder if they're the same weight. For elite runners, just a few grams of weight is a factor in whether you're first or 3rd.
The VFnext% aren't the shoes for the mortal runners, so spending almost 300 euros for them is a waste of money taking in mind the short expectancy of their life. So, the Hokas win!
I need to get a new pair of running shoes. I love the nike brand and would rather pay just for that alone. But i also love having color choices and HOKA has more options in that, AND they are cheaper...
Really awesome comparison. Just did a first impressions video on the Carbon X for my own channel. Would love to get my hands on the next % but that price tag is breaking my budget. Keep up the great work! I subscribed!
Got these a week ago and half 50km in them now. Definitely these are not for walking! They feel good running only. They can do recovery miles too..,but you won’t want to.
@@PoetWithPace if they give elites a small advantage then why not, could be the difference between 5th and 3rd. But if you're a regular runner gaining a minute on a marathon can be done by training more which is free. So basically if you're not running less than three hours running in these means you're lazy and a bit of a ponce.
Great comparison. I have both the Vaporfly 4% flyknit and the Carbon X. Love the Carbon X for longer, fast paced marathon build-up miles. Feel clunky at slow miles to me. The 4% is strictly for racing for me as will be the %Next. Carbon X get more overall miles but doubt I would race in them in anything under a 50k. Carbon X just feels to heavy and I can't get the turnover I need. The Zoom X foam is far superior for taking the pounding away from my legs. I personally don't think you try compare the 2 shoes (other than they have a carbon plate) as they have different uses for me. Get both and have the best of both worlds!!!! $275 for the %Next here in US...
I tend to agree. I think the Carbon X work for faster marathon training miles or those training runs where you might want to mix fast and slow. I often do a 15 miler with a big threshold chunk in the middle, for example, and I think these work nicely for that. One of the reasons I did the comparison here was to really show that they're different.
@@Manvmiles Well done to show the difference. I think many hear carbon plate and think the shoes are comparable just from the components they have. Definitely, different uses.
Awesome review well done. I haven’t tried either shoe but have after watching lots of comparison reviews I ordered the HOKA carbon X. Reasons for this are that they will last a LOT longer than the vapourflys and for the vast majority of runners there won’t be much difference in marathon times between the two shoes unless you are running sub 2:40. Fair?
Glad yours at the bigger size fit but I’ve checked with others and they’ve had sizing problems too. And I know for a fact the 8.5 are small for an 8.5. I can see my toes bulging out.
I truly wish Nike would make the next% more wide foot friendly and also a version without the carbon fiber plate and one with. So it meets more feet and benefits more people. God willing all this happens because I feel like Nike only shows love for skinny feet people lol. Because unless Nike smartens up and realizes the massive need for a super comfortable super squishy casual/trainer shoe. They are missing some of there true potential. And I feel like Nike would truly be the #1 most comfortable shoe. Like take there element React shoe right take that width and shape as far as making it wider and more stable with the width leave the squish just making it wider and more geared for training and casual that shoe would blow away the market and I love ultraboost which is still all around the winner as far as upper width comfort and all that. So it’s just my opinion. But I’m telling you there is so many people like me who love the running tech when you can use it for regular training and can Casually where all day. God bless great video brotha
1) It's designed for racing and elite runners that's why it is narrow with a carbon plate. 2)There are plenty of cushioning shoes out there don't need another 3)Ultraboosts aren't even designed for running they are just a very cushioned more for casual/fitness
Ime I completely disagree If that we’re true that we have comfortable shoes so that’s that? No it always has room to grow for more comfortable shoes. Other wise there would never be any innovation in sneaker tech. Two your telling me just because it’s made for racers that there’s no wide foot runners? Wide foot people need shoes to you know not just skinny feet people. But for real if people would have looked at comfort like there’s comfortable shoes out there there’s no reason to change this shoe for anything better than brands would die from lack of ambition and striving for the next best thing. We would still have nothing but plain Jane Eva versus they tweek it now days to have boost and react and zoomx so to say there’s plenty out there that’s comfortable this shoe is designed for racing only is crazy thought process when there’s more than one racer foot and will never grow and improve from one shoe to the next. So I completely disagree on that way of thinking when there’s always room for improvement and room to make more shoes for a wider range of feet shapes and sizes. God bless not talking trash just don’t agree with you ya know
It's interesting because I'd consider myself to have quite wide feet and I'm fine with the Nike Next%, I do, however, find that some Adidas come up a bit narrow. Though I really love the Adizero Adios Boost as one of my all-time top race shoes.
Both these shoes are NOT for heal strikers .. the drop on the Carbon X is lower that the Next % isn't it ?? no way you'd strike the heal more in a lower drop shoe 💙 thanks so much for doing this comparison 💙 Yeah right on Carbon X sizing - I normally take 9.5 in Hoka but had to take a 10 in the Carbon X | the Hoka Mach 2 is a safer shoe for most runners .. The Carbon X you can't really run slow in them ..
Yeah, I didn't mean to present the HOKAs as heel strikers shoes. The point I was trying to get across is that on the run you get away with striking the heel more in the Carbon X than the Next%. So I think over longer distances where your form might fail the HOKAs are probably a bit more forgiving. With the Next%, the only way is up on the forefoot.
@@Manvmiles yeah my impression of the Carbon X vs the Mach 2 is that the Mach would be an even safer choice for those who can't maintain form later in the "race" - the Mach 2 is also lighter than the Carbon X by about 10% - that has to help in those later stages (not as much as the Next % of course) Thanks for the reply - all the best for the channel 💙
Hey man, like your review very much. But please get a mic, it's definitely a worthy investment
Next time try to review near the Niagara Falls.
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This is the best review of the two shoe types that i`ve seen. I wish you had done it in a spot with less background noise but I have not seen a more detailed examination of the shoes. Brilliant!
Excellent comparison. Im not fast enough to justify the Next% nor fit enough to run an ultra in the Carbon X. But good review anyway.
Ha ha, Thanks Kevin, glad you liked it.
Totally agree with the Hoka sizing. I had to go up half a size too! Different fit to other Hokas I have!
I have both. For racing, I definitely will use the Vaporfly Next %. It has better cushion, lighter, and seems to give a better boost. Carbon X is perfect for the long run.
the waterfall fountain background noise is really distracting from otherwise really great analysis and information.
Yeah, I know. Sorry about that. I didn’t think that one through properly. But lesson learned!
I didn’t mind the waterfall. Nice review✊🏾
Great insights on those flying shoes! Thanks, Kieran! ✌
Glad you enjoyed. Thanks,
One of the best reviews I’ve seen. I’ve got both and find the next% quite a bit more aggressive, both great shoes eitherway..
The shoe is aggressive? Hahaha brilliant. That’s all i need
Nice insights on both shoes. I have the Carbon X and VF FK 4% (and will probably get the Next % when it is more readily available) and despite not being a hardcore runner, it's obvious there is a big difference between the X and VF. I enjoy both, but the VF is in a class of its own (for better or worse); just a completely different feel than anything else I've tried along with that ultra high pricepoint. That said, the X seems more versatile and I end up using them more frequently.
Thanks for the comment. Do you mind me asking how you use the FK 4% versus the Carbon X? Do you lace them up for different types of run?
It seems like Nike considered weight a lot and removed a lot. However, since the Hoka splits the carbon plate, I wonder if they're the same weight. For elite runners, just a few grams of weight is a factor in whether you're first or 3rd.
The VFnext% aren't the shoes for the mortal runners, so spending almost 300 euros for them is a waste of money taking in mind the short expectancy of their life. So, the Hokas win!
@matthew O it's probably because the people wearing them were bad, not because of the shoe
I need to get a new pair of running shoes. I love the nike brand and would rather pay just for that alone. But i also love having color choices and HOKA has more options in that, AND they are cheaper...
Hoka said their not a racing shoe? Do they have a racing shoe if the Carbon X isn't it?
Really awesome comparison. Just did a first impressions video on the Carbon X for my own channel. Would love to get my hands on the next % but that price tag is breaking my budget.
Keep up the great work! I subscribed!
Bravissimo ottima recensione,chiaro ed esaustivo come pochi.
Complimenti dall'Italia.
you got a same size Carbon X with Nike next%?
Hello
which size you took in the 2 models
Thanks greg
Great detailed comparison
Excellent explanation.."..but wrong spot due to the fountain noise
Any idea on Jacket model he is wearing in this vid?
So what’s the best racing shoe for people with wide feet? I was hoping it might be the Hoka, but maybe not. I’m currently in Brooks Launch.
Excellent comparison 👏 well done mate - SUBSCRIBED
Thanks for a great review. Am considering Carbon shoes, but tried the Nike in a store and couldn't walk in them. Is that fair point?
Got these a week ago and half 50km in them now. Definitely these are not for walking! They feel good running only. They can do recovery miles too..,but you won’t want to.
@@theurbanalgorithm raced a marathon on sunday and almost all the faster ones at front had these. Are they that good?
@@PoetWithPace if they give elites a small advantage then why not, could be the difference between 5th and 3rd. But if you're a regular runner gaining a minute on a marathon can be done by training more which is free. So basically if you're not running less than three hours running in these means you're lazy and a bit of a ponce.
@@ironmantooltime i did see a LOT on a video at Chicago last week struggling around the 3:10 to 3:30 with those shoes on
Thanks, do you think the Next % deserves its price tag? Or what do you think should be the price point?
The vapor fly definitely worth it! I got a pair 50% Off in a nike outlet store... i am not a big runner, but i really feel a huge difference.
Great comparison. I have both the Vaporfly 4% flyknit and the Carbon X. Love the Carbon X for longer, fast paced marathon build-up miles. Feel clunky at slow miles to me. The 4% is strictly for racing for me as will be the %Next. Carbon X get more overall miles but doubt I would race in them in anything under a 50k. Carbon X just feels to heavy and I can't get the turnover I need. The Zoom X foam is far superior for taking the pounding away from my legs. I personally don't think you try compare the 2 shoes (other than they have a carbon plate) as they have different uses for me. Get both and have the best of both worlds!!!! $275 for the %Next here in US...
I tend to agree. I think the Carbon X work for faster marathon training miles or those training runs where you might want to mix fast and slow. I often do a 15 miler with a big threshold chunk in the middle, for example, and I think these work nicely for that. One of the reasons I did the comparison here was to really show that they're different.
@@Manvmiles Well done to show the difference. I think many hear carbon plate and think the shoes are comparable just from the components they have. Definitely, different uses.
Awesome review well done. I haven’t tried either shoe but have after watching lots of comparison reviews I ordered the HOKA carbon X. Reasons for this are that they will last a LOT longer than the vapourflys and for the vast majority of runners there won’t be much difference in marathon times between the two shoes unless you are running sub 2:40. Fair?
great review, thanks!!!
Thanks Agostinho. Appreciate you saying so.
Good review thank you! Don't listen to the people that say they can't hear you. You did fine!
Never tell someone to not listen to criticism. Especially criticism that doesn't even insult him, just pointing out somewhere he can improve.
@@luvzlara how old are you? 9? 10?
Late but bruh they are not even hating 🙄
canUhearDat yup, you’re late!.... and yes they are! Also don’t bully cause you won’t get far with me. I’ll go at this forever asshole!
I think it depend what you want to do
disagree on the sizing. 12 fits like a 12.5 in other hokas. nice lockdown midfoot with toes having freedom! best hoka yet
Glad yours at the bigger size fit but I’ve checked with others and they’ve had sizing problems too. And I know for a fact the 8.5 are small for an 8.5. I can see my toes bulging out.
Damn man...that intro was wayyyyyy to loooong...you almost lost me. But I like to give people a chance. Good review!
I truly wish Nike would make the next% more wide foot friendly and also a version without the carbon fiber plate and one with. So it meets more feet and benefits more people. God willing all this happens because I feel like Nike only shows love for skinny feet people lol. Because unless Nike smartens up and realizes the massive need for a super comfortable super squishy casual/trainer shoe. They are missing some of there true potential. And I feel like Nike would truly be the #1 most comfortable shoe. Like take there element React shoe right take that width and shape as far as making it wider and more stable with the width leave the squish just making it wider and more geared for training and casual that shoe would blow away the market and I love ultraboost which is still all around the winner as far as upper width comfort and all that. So it’s just my opinion. But I’m telling you there is so many people like me who love the running tech when you can use it for regular training and can Casually where all day. God bless great video brotha
1) It's designed for racing and elite runners that's why it is narrow with a carbon plate.
2)There are plenty of cushioning shoes out there don't need another
3)Ultraboosts aren't even designed for running they are just a very cushioned more for casual/fitness
Ime I completely disagree If that we’re true that we have comfortable shoes so that’s that? No it always has room to grow for more comfortable shoes. Other wise there would never be any innovation in sneaker tech. Two your telling me just because it’s made for racers that there’s no wide foot runners? Wide foot people need shoes to you know not just skinny feet people. But for real if people would have looked at comfort like there’s comfortable shoes out there there’s no reason to change this shoe for anything better than brands would die from lack of ambition and striving for the next best thing. We would still have nothing but plain Jane Eva versus they tweek it now days to have boost and react and zoomx so to say there’s plenty out there that’s comfortable this shoe is designed for racing only is crazy thought process when there’s more than one racer foot and will never grow and improve from one shoe to the next. So I completely disagree on that way of thinking when there’s always room for improvement and room to make more shoes for a wider range of feet shapes and sizes. God bless not talking trash just don’t agree with you ya know
It's interesting because I'd consider myself to have quite wide feet and I'm fine with the Nike Next%, I do, however, find that some Adidas come up a bit narrow. Though I really love the Adizero Adios Boost as one of my all-time top race shoes.
@@ocanafamilyeaanz7058 _n o_
Ime I ran a 1:24 half marathon in the ultraboost
Both these shoes are NOT for heal strikers .. the drop on the Carbon X is lower that the Next % isn't it ?? no way you'd strike the heal more in a lower drop shoe
💙 thanks so much for doing this comparison 💙 Yeah right on Carbon X sizing - I normally take 9.5 in Hoka but had to take a 10 in the Carbon X | the Hoka Mach 2 is a safer shoe for most runners .. The Carbon X you can't really run slow in them ..
Yeah, I didn't mean to present the HOKAs as heel strikers shoes. The point I was trying to get across is that on the run you get away with striking the heel more in the Carbon X than the Next%. So I think over longer distances where your form might fail the HOKAs are probably a bit more forgiving. With the Next%, the only way is up on the forefoot.
@@Manvmiles yeah my impression of the Carbon X vs the Mach 2 is that the Mach would be an even safer choice for those who can't maintain form later in the "race" - the Mach 2 is also lighter than the Carbon X by about 10% - that has to help in those later stages (not as much as the Next % of course)
Thanks for the reply - all the best for the channel 💙
A major difference : the weight! the nike is way lighter! that's an important point.
I see Chiswick Park 😉
Turn the waterfall off next time, can hardly hear anything you say..
I land with my fee 100% flat and roll on to my toes so wyperfly would be better for my running
Oh Yhea...and you might take care of that wind noise on the mic by what’s called a “dead cat” over it or even a thick sock 🧦 will do
So the moral of the story is... buy the mach 2 unless you can afford the 4%
I like Hoka 👍
Hoka nailed it! IMO
Mate the sound of the video was awful. next time try somewhere more quite.
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Nike>
Hoka 🤮🤮🤮
The hoka shoes are really ugly
Homa crap, next% for life
Unwatchable. Bad audio. Painful even.
As in actual pain?