I think it's a bit of a cop out to say stock variants are useless if a Party character outclasses them, because that's pretty much the point of the Party characters.
Also stock versions are pretty good for the most part, with some of them making other variants seem pointless (example stock corn and mafia corn), so like saying the stock variants are useless than their party versions just cause of a legendary meter is just dumb
Look, I get that Toxic damage isn’t as good as Fire damage, but that’s not the point of it. The point is that you deal that toxic damage by just being near someone. I get that this video is probably being talked from a strictly PvP perspective, but Toxic character variants are very useful for this reason in Ops and other PvE modes. Not to mention that in PvP, while it may not cause as much damage as Fire, it is still consistent damage that prevents health regeneration. And at the BARE MINIMUM, you have to acknowledge how incredible Toxic Brainz is. I love your vids man, especially the last two “Useless” videos so far, but failing to mention the ONE key aspect that makes Toxic variants different from Fire ones is a MAJOR oversight. Edit#1: I also am pretty sure that Toxic damage can spread from one enemy to another, sort of like electric, so in that way it’s kind of a middle ground between electric and fire, which is a valid role. Edit #2: I am aware that not all toxic characters have the “radiation around themselves” aspect, mainly Druid Rose & the Sanitation Expert, but a majority do.
5:37 - Technically the toxic aura (for once) does come into play here, since its activation range is the same as his spray length of 7 meters, so if you start dealing toxic damage when walking up to someone, you can safely say that they are comfortably within range of your spray attack. Pretty much the one and only thing toxic Chomper gets over fire Chomper but nothing too crazy. 5:45 - all spray Chomper’s have the same range n width so this isn’t something exclusive to fire Chomper. 6:18 - true, fire pea is better, unless we’re talking about gw1 toxic pea… then that’s a different story. 8:45 - true, rock pea’s health perk ain’t great with how much he sacrifices, but he does become the best peashooter to use if you swear by using Gatling constantly (since the armour does stack with his enhanced health pool) Thank you for coming to my nerd talk
@@robertlupa8273 not exactly, he technically has more range given he has access to chain lightning damage, but with how minimal it is, it barely plays a role
Disco Chomper is another example of a useless variant, in my opinion. Yeah, he has a legendary meter, but if you want to get a speed boost by swallowing someone, Hot Rod Chomper is right there. And when it comes to the damage department, Disco Chomper is completely outclassed by Armor, Twilight and the Default Chomper.
Idk if it was a thing in GW1 but I though the purpose of toxic damage was that it kind of spreads from person to person whereas fire doesn't. So if you infect someone with toxic and they stand to another player they also get toxic and it goes on little bit back and forth giving you higher damage overtime against multiple people.
Also happens in GW2 I think, but if the people is close enough to each other to pass on the toxic damage, then you probably can hit both with the same projectile, so in my opinion it is still a useless mechanic
It's funny because if I wanted AoE damage I could have an immediate affect with Electric variants. Cool I get a mild aura + mild DoT in a game with splash healing, passive heal stations, an entire class based around healing.
The main difference with toxic damage is that it spreads from enemy to enemy and creates a domino effect. Fire damage doesn't. Still not great but at least there's a point. Also remember when Toxic Pea had 6m splash? That was disgusting
@@yeticoatabrigodeyeti160 Hockey, Baseball, Tennis, and Golf are basically the same. Hockey and Golf are the best, but Golf is more unique. I'd also argue that Ice Hockey Star (Goalie Star is a bad name for what is essentially a Hockey Star, you know how many sports have Goalies?) Is a better variant than Hockey, and you should really just stick with that instead.
@@bingoviini True, he has an insanely quick recovery. But other Allstars also have quick recoveries (can't remember which ones) and I'd rather have additional gimmicks instead of having just a quick recovery and a quick overheat with a rate of fire that matches other Allstars.
For some reason for many years (when I was younger) I loved playing toxic pea and I was literally maining him. I guess i just liked his sound effects and overall feel of him lol. Pretty much i was playing him (and I'm still playing him) just for fun
Honestly i feel like you shouldn't mention the base variants because well, it's the variant you start with, you can't expect it to be better than every other variant
Chomper works better as a support stealth class, but most people's plan of attack with him is direct assault. This, in turn, gets him killed alot so people write him off as the worst class in the game, which seems unfair. Think of chomper as a crocodile: it doesn't give chase when its prey is far away. It's an ambush predator that strikes when its prey is close enough so it's less likely to get away. Chomper is not designed for the trigger happy player, but the patient player
@@pokechimp1544 Chomper is a class of waiting and ambush. It usually works best if your opponent has no signs near them, so you can get the true jump on them. Having a toxic aura can ruin the surprise jump and cause a more hostile reaction 1v1, rather than a quick chomp. Also stalking and waiting for your prey could be altered by the toxic aura when they come close enough (i.e. hiding behind boxes of an hallway to ambush someone walking though it).
Think it works though, since standing next to someone they are delt poison damage. To which, Chomper is a melee character, and thus requires you to stand next to an opponent
Toxic chomper just makes sense though due to the toxic aura being close ranged and if you play him you’re gonna be up close for 99% of the time. It works as extra passive dps
The only advantage of Toxic Damage is that, aside from the Damage Aura, Toxic damage also spreads like a virus, providing some method of easier DoT spread than Fire Damage. Although now that I think about it, can't DoTs stack? As for comparing Fire Variants and Toxic Ones, I'd say Flameface and Squawk are interchangeable depending on preference.
@lyndsaypeters5981 Their Zoom in modes are also different, or at least Squawk's is. Squawk has a tighter and further Zoom, allowing extremely precise shots.
This is why I think PvZ BFN is more balanced than PvZ GW2, in my opinion. There aren’t useless plants, zombies and they have their own variants and upgrades so you can play a different role, even though you have a designated role. You can play Support Nightcap, via reviving plants quickly in her hypnotic grenades, so you can get abilities back and deal with zombies with the shadow defense boost upgrade. PvZ GW2 has a bunch of zombies and plants that are very much outclassed, why use Stock Chomper if Disco Chomper deals more damage? Why use Citron if Ice Citron has a better primary? Why use MOST Footsoldier variants if the Stock Footsoldier is tied with Super Commando in S-tier?! In PvZ BFN, you have 2 All-Rounders which both are from opposite teams, which is Citron and Super Brainz, which in my opinion are the most OP characters in the game, but the others STILL play a crucial role in the team. I know PvZ BFN having no variants suck, but at least, IN THE VERY LEAST…the game is more balanced than it’s predecessors even it’s predecessors are better.
@@kastenedwards1217 More balanced than PvZ GW2, Citron and Super Brainz are literally the best characters in their teams and can square off 1v1. Not to mention, every character is useable.
@@kastenedwards1217if you're whining about Brainium Basher like the many toddlers who do so, he's easy to counter using Shogun Guard or Citron since their shields block the dashes
If I am not mistaken doesn’t toxic pea have better splash than fire pea? Also you can’t compare the stock characters to their party versions. That is kinda cheep because you get one for free and the other you have to work for. Not only that they are supposed do be a better version of the stock ones.
VIDEO IDEA - you should do a video on best variants to pick for each team if they were all coordinated and specifically chose variants/characters to work together as a team for the best team line-up
Rock pea is so inaccurate because the shots take on some momentum from your movement direction, so if you walk to the left while shooticg, the shot will be angled to the left, it is not random, however utilising this is still pretty hard (also Painter has the same gimmick I believe)
Being able to lock down and entire group of enemies from healing is super good, if one dude pops his head out and you hit him with toxic, all his teammates have now stopped healing… it’s crazy how overlooked that is
If "useless" means there is a character within the class that is a direct upgrade. Does that mean people should only use toxic braniz, agent pea and captain cannon?
This is such a brainless take holy mother of god. Have you ever tried pairing the health regeneration upgrades with it? The thing becomes a kill streak machine since you regenerate a LOT of health, even if you're out of combat for like 3s
@@unrule. I'd rather use Armor Chomper. Chomp Thing isn't even capable of killing a 200 health character without overheating even if that player is AFK. I can't even imagine it in Garden Ops taking down any of the Bosses in Hard or Crazy Mode because it probably struggles in Normal mode and possibly even Easy mode with the amount of times it overheats before it has to kill any enemy with 200 or more health.
@@MufflesTheGerbil you do know you can spam click the attack button with spray characters to get increased DPS and avoid overheating, right? Also mb for being kinda hostile in my first comment
How to buff all toxic chracters: Make toxic last longer the more you hit someone with it, kinda like poison damage. it still spreads to others but it does more dmg when it spreads and it lasts longer while doing the same dmg per tick, also increas the toxic aura of of the chracaters and make it were if they are in ur aura they take 5dmg per sec, along with a 15% dmg increase from all toxic sorces that are also in your aura. So say for example if a toxic pea and toxic citron are next to a zombie. you both will do 15% more dmg to them but not other variants that aren't toxic.
Fuji: “Toxic damage is a worse version of fire damage You can damage enemies by just standing near them as toxic variants sooo technically toxic is better then fire.
Toxic is probably better if enemies come close, it’s useless when range. But fire can deal 4-5 damage, which is already powerful and Toxic only gets a radius buff…which is sort of useless. Toxic Chomper is also one of the useless variants as they’re only Fire Chomper but worst, and can’t even be sneaky because of the toxicity…still is one of my favourite Chompers for some reason.
half this vid are two party characters. not tryna hate bzút there are a lot more bad varients in the game. also if ur gonna do the o party character rout just go through all of em at least (except captain partyman cos he's just worse for soem reason)
The fact that there are uselless variants proves that Bfn not having variants is not a good point, because people only use the best variants and they come in lootboxes.
Imp is actually pretty good, even though it has a party imp, its still great for players like me who don't have any party characters. But the point of toxic variants is for when it damages zombies/plants near them due to the radiation, and toxic pea has a bigger cannon aoe(Good for hiders and partial misses.)
@@Ihonestlydek No, you can test it in your backyard, but the party call doesn't have a cooldown difference with the regular z-mech call ability. Both have a 120 seconds cooldown.
It is complete bull spit to say that default imp and super brains are "useless" because the party characters outclass them. So this also makes chomper, corn, citron, rose, scientist, and pirate are "useless." Oh, and how could I forget, default peashooter is bad to since he has a fire variant. See why this isn't good? If imp and super brains are bad, so is every default.
Party corn has 5 less ammo i think but does the same DMG, Party citron does the same damage (Correct me if im wrong) party rose does less damage, partyman does less damage aswell, and scientist...why did you put scientist?
Toxic damage isn't a downgrade of fire damage. Toxic peas isn't outclassed by fire pea, because toxic damage ment to have a huge blast radius, while fire is a more concentrated dmg And DAMN rock pea is underrated. Electro pea is so overrated. You have to shoot so slowly, because you can... No you MUST blow up your shots. That's by far the worst pea
The copium from thinking Toxic damage has an actual use even considering it's advantages over fire damage... I can kinda overlook that. Saying that Rock Pea is underrated... Kinda worrisome. Saying that Electro Pea is overrated and claiming it's the worst pea of the game... Yeah, you have no idea what you're talking about.
They should make toxic damage last for longer but deal less damage. It should make fire damage better for offence but toxic damage to prevent natural healing
Yea but the downside to the party variants is that they’re way harder to get because they’re legendary. So it’s no wonder they’re better than the defaults.
Actually the toxic plants deal dmg to zombies just standing near them witch is great for the toxic chomper bc he's close range that means he's dealing double toxic dmg if he's shooting
@@announcer6114 that's horseshit, it's stupidly easy to charge his meter. Maybe he's not so good on PC but on console he's the most broken character in the game
@@rathermischeviousmannot necessarily. Generally speaking even the stock has something going for it and that is usually raw damage. Take the base pea shooter for example. It hits the hardest with direct fire at 37 damage.
I always done better with toxic chomper than the other spray chompers also it’s funny that captain partyman is worse than stock but every other party character is better than stock
So if there was a fire version of super brains and was also a legendary variant he would be on top. I'm actually curious is there a veriant mod to have a magma brains variant that is actually more broken than toxic brains?
The real most useless chomper is Armored Chomper, for a class that relies on its fast burrow ability having it be very slow is not worth its dps and health. As chomper a lot of your kills should be from just eating opponents so his dps buff doesn’t even matter
I dont hate your content, its actually quite good. One issue. Whilst the Abilities video did make sense: its so that players can learn to qdapt to what works for them. Same with characters. PvZ GW2 is about having goofy, funny haha moments all around ( I once saw a peashooter get sprint tackled into a ZPG, good times ) aln less abput dominating the ranks and having the whole lobby hate you because you have 192 kills in a game of gnome bomb as Astronaut.
I don't like to believe that any character in GW2 is a bad character tbh. At the end of the day, it just goes with personal preference and if you know for sure on how to use that character. I'm a Toxic Pea main and I'm able to get some work done more than Fire Pea believe it or not. A thing you have to consider as well, even though fire does more damage than toxic damage, toxic damage is the only damage that can be dealt while your just standing there, which would balanace it out for characters like Toxic Chomper when you need to be close no matter what. I believe what Popcap wants us to do with these characters is to choose one that fits the scenario the best, either by the scenery, the game modes or even the foes that you're facing. Even the maps themselves give you a fair idea on what characters would be a better fit for that map. Sometimes I see characters that almost no one plays at all, and I end matches with them hitting 20 kills or more per match (EX: I could be playing as Super Commando, while a General Supremo could be playing the game as if it was lightwork). As mentioned before, I don't think every character is useless, it just wires down to preference, who is able to use them and how they use them. Everyone character was meant for someone, but not every character is meant for everyone
Rock Pea might be "useless" compared to the rest of the Peashooters, however it's a Peashooter still. While Rock Pea doesn't have as much speed as the rest of the Peashooters, he still has the same small hitbox that the rest of them have. As well as having the same Peashooter kit of Abilities, which speaking of. Rock Pea's major benefit in my opinion is it's synergy with Pea Gatling's Armor Buff. Pea Gatling has a 60% Armor Buff which makes any Peashooter that equips the helmet and roots themselves into the ground have 60% more Effective Health. For most Peashooters that Effective Health is 200. For Agent Pea, that is only 160 which who tf uses Pea Gatling with Agent anyways? Rock Pea however gets 240 Effective Health with Pea Gatling's Armor. Which is actually pretty effective at survivability and is the one Peashooter that I'm comfortable enough with to use the ability on. So, while Rock Pea isn't useful, he certainly isn't completely useless. Just underpowered and a tad bit underrated in my opinion. *With Health Upgrade; 110 > 176 / 135 > 216 / 160 > 256
I never had thought I would've ever heard a GW2 player in general (either who hasn't played the game or is an experienced veteran) that Toxic Peashooter is the worst variant of all the peas. First of all, that is insanely incorrect, is he the best peashooter in the game? Of course not, is he the worst peashooter? Hell freaking no??? I will be a bit biased over this since I main Toxic peashooter in both GW1 and 2 but even then, a lot of players would agree that Toxic Peashooter is literally one of the best peashooters in the entire game, most would say even better than fire. Second of all, Toxic isn't a bad effect overall, yes, it's weaker than fire but what toxic characters usually excel at is their incredible lingering and burst damage for easy damage to the player even when you aren't good at aiming. And toxic becomes better once you know that Toxic also SPREADS on other players. I've been killed by toxic WAY more than fire because fire doesn't spread unlike toxic. And THIRD of all, if we are actually talking about the worst peashooter variant overall. You can give that crown to freaking Rock Peashooter. The ONLY thing going for rock pea is that it has more health. I'm pretty sure that rock pea is JUST a bulkier peashooter, not to mention it is freaking slow. It takes me ages to arrive from one checkpoint to the next with rock pea than with any other peashooter variant. Being able to live longer is great and all, but as many other "tanky" variants, you won't be able to live for long if you can't even kill the dude. A perfect example of the "tanky characters" problem is Iron citron himself. Before we start, i know that iron citron is freaking overpowered, but here's the thing, Iron Citron is absolute garbage unless you give him the reload upgrades. Once you give him those, Iron Citron absolutely dominates the battlefield from having high health and great dps because of his fire rate being upgraded. Edit: I just got to rock pea, I didn't notice that, but still if there are any other variants that could be worse than toxic pea, I would say variants like Ice or commando pea could be there. They aren't bad at all cause they're peashooters, but they aren't the best variants either. Ice isn't really a strong effect and Commando pea is just a foot soldier with a lower dps and a steeper damage dropoff
I think it's a bit of a cop out to say stock variants are useless if a Party character outclasses them, because that's pretty much the point of the Party characters.
Plus the argument kinda falls apart when party rose & party man are weaker versions of stock
Also stock versions are pretty good for the most part, with some of them making other variants seem pointless (example stock corn and mafia corn), so like saying the stock variants are useless than their party versions just cause of a legendary meter is just dumb
For imp 100% it's cone imp... it's ass
It's so funny because I remember a time when the Party characters were downgrades before they buffed them DRASTICALLY
Also it’s way harder to get party characters than stock variants.
Look, I get that Toxic damage isn’t as good as Fire damage, but that’s not the point of it. The point is that you deal that toxic damage by just being near someone. I get that this video is probably being talked from a strictly PvP perspective, but Toxic character variants are very useful for this reason in Ops and other PvE modes. Not to mention that in PvP, while it may not cause as much damage as Fire, it is still consistent damage that prevents health regeneration.
And at the BARE MINIMUM, you have to acknowledge how incredible Toxic Brainz is.
I love your vids man, especially the last two “Useless” videos so far, but failing to mention the ONE key aspect that makes Toxic variants different from Fire ones is a MAJOR oversight.
Edit#1: I also am pretty sure that Toxic damage can spread from one enemy to another, sort of like electric, so in that way it’s kind of a middle ground between electric and fire, which is a valid role.
Edit #2: I am aware that not all toxic characters have the “radiation around themselves” aspect, mainly Druid Rose & the Sanitation Expert, but a majority do.
Toxic Brainz is incredible because is Toxic Brainz, not because the toxic damage
@@cr4zy948 Cool.
Yep, toxic brains is incredible just become the meter.
*becose
"the garage engineer" - this mf
5:37 - Technically the toxic aura (for once) does come into play here, since its activation range is the same as his spray length of 7 meters, so if you start dealing toxic damage when walking up to someone, you can safely say that they are comfortably within range of your spray attack. Pretty much the one and only thing toxic Chomper gets over fire Chomper but nothing too crazy.
5:45 - all spray Chomper’s have the same range n width so this isn’t something exclusive to fire Chomper.
6:18 - true, fire pea is better, unless we’re talking about gw1 toxic pea… then that’s a different story.
8:45 - true, rock pea’s health perk ain’t great with how much he sacrifices, but he does become the best peashooter to use if you swear by using Gatling constantly (since the armour does stack with his enhanced health pool)
Thank you for coming to my nerd talk
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I agree with your points funny purple man, and one thing I'd like to add to the Rock-Shooter is that he looks rad.
Wait, really? I thought Power Chomper had a wider range.
@@robertlupa8273 not exactly, he technically has more range given he has access to chain lightning damage, but with how minimal it is, it barely plays a role
yo now way this guy commented
Disco Chomper is another example of a useless variant, in my opinion. Yeah, he has a legendary meter, but if you want to get a speed boost by swallowing someone, Hot Rod Chomper is right there. And when it comes to the damage department, Disco Chomper is completely outclassed by Armor, Twilight and the Default Chomper.
saying that armour outclasses someone requires balls ngl people haye armour chomper
@@yeticoatabrigodeyeti160 balls of steel
Doesnt disco do a bit more dps than regular?
@@robertlupa8273armor balls
not to mention twilight chomper
Idk if it was a thing in GW1 but I though the purpose of toxic damage was that it kind of spreads from person to person whereas fire doesn't. So if you infect someone with toxic and they stand to another player they also get toxic and it goes on little bit back and forth giving you higher damage overtime against multiple people.
Also happens in GW2 I think, but if the people is close enough to each other to pass on the toxic damage, then you probably can hit both with the same projectile, so in my opinion it is still a useless mechanic
@@cr4zy948That doesn't apply to characters that have no splash damage
There is also a aura that is toxic
It's funny because if I wanted AoE damage I could have an immediate affect with Electric variants. Cool I get a mild aura + mild DoT in a game with splash healing, passive heal stations, an entire class based around healing.
The main difference with toxic damage is that it spreads from enemy to enemy and creates a domino effect. Fire damage doesn't. Still not great but at least there's a point.
Also remember when Toxic Pea had 6m splash? That was disgusting
Baseball Star: His high rate of fire is sure to be a homerun!
Cool cool.
Hockey Star: His high rate of fire is sure to disqust plant foes!
But why?!
it happens too with golf star except he has more zoom.
between the three hockey is the best
@@yeticoatabrigodeyeti160 Hockey, Baseball, Tennis, and Golf are basically the same. Hockey and Golf are the best, but Golf is more unique.
I'd also argue that Ice Hockey Star (Goalie Star is a bad name for what is essentially a Hockey Star, you know how many sports have Goalies?) Is a better variant than Hockey, and you should really just stick with that instead.
Baseballs actual gimmic is that he has only around 2 seconds of overheat, aka a reload
@@bingoviini True, he has an insanely quick recovery. But other Allstars also have quick recoveries (can't remember which ones) and I'd rather have additional gimmicks instead of having just a quick recovery and a quick overheat with a rate of fire that matches other Allstars.
I know! All of the All Star variants feel the exact same!
For some reason for many years (when I was younger) I loved playing toxic pea and I was literally maining him. I guess i just liked his sound effects and overall feel of him lol. Pretty much i was playing him (and I'm still playing him) just for fun
He has more splash than other peas
@@Livereater4000 yeah ik
I did the same thing and loved the splash damage because I could not aim back then…
and still can’t aim
He's definitely not as bad as this video says
The toxic damage spreading to each player is good for crowd control
Honestly i feel like you shouldn't mention the base variants because well, it's the variant you start with, you can't expect it to be better than every other variant
Alll star is literaly better then all his variants
I'm surprised he didn't bring up the fact that Chompers are kinda supposed to be a sneaky class and having a toxic aura isn't the best idea.
Chomper works better as a support stealth class, but most people's plan of attack with him is direct assault. This, in turn, gets him killed alot so people write him off as the worst class in the game, which seems unfair. Think of chomper as a crocodile: it doesn't give chase when its prey is far away. It's an ambush predator that strikes when its prey is close enough so it's less likely to get away. Chomper is not designed for the trigger happy player, but the patient player
@@pokechimp1544 Chomper is a class of waiting and ambush. It usually works best if your opponent has no signs near them, so you can get the true jump on them. Having a toxic aura can ruin the surprise jump and cause a more hostile reaction 1v1, rather than a quick chomp. Also stalking and waiting for your prey could be altered by the toxic aura when they come close enough (i.e. hiding behind boxes of an hallway to ambush someone walking though it).
@@captinditto yeah toxic chomper is my least favorite spray chomper
Think it works though, since standing next to someone they are delt poison damage. To which, Chomper is a melee character, and thus requires you to stand next to an opponent
Toxic chomper just makes sense though due to the toxic aura being close ranged and if you play him you’re gonna be up close for 99% of the time. It works as extra passive dps
Fujj: Fire Damage is better Toxic Damage
Toxic Brainz: And I took that personally...
The only advantage of Toxic Damage is that, aside from the Damage Aura, Toxic damage also spreads like a virus, providing some method of easier DoT spread than Fire Damage.
Although now that I think about it, can't DoTs stack?
As for comparing Fire Variants and Toxic Ones, I'd say Flameface and Squawk are interchangeable depending on preference.
Flame face and squawk are very different. Flame face has a blast of fire and squawk has a constant spray
@lyndsaypeters5981 Their Zoom in modes are also different, or at least Squawk's is.
Squawk has a tighter and further Zoom, allowing extremely precise shots.
@@ultimateexplodinator360 and Flame faces Pierces with a higher rate of fire
This is why I think PvZ BFN is more balanced than PvZ GW2, in my opinion. There aren’t useless plants, zombies and they have their own variants and upgrades so you can play a different role, even though you have a designated role. You can play Support Nightcap, via reviving plants quickly in her hypnotic grenades, so you can get abilities back and deal with zombies with the shadow defense boost upgrade. PvZ GW2 has a bunch of zombies and plants that are very much outclassed, why use Stock Chomper if Disco Chomper deals more damage? Why use Citron if Ice Citron has a better primary? Why use MOST Footsoldier variants if the Stock Footsoldier is tied with Super Commando in S-tier?! In PvZ BFN, you have 2 All-Rounders which both are from opposite teams, which is Citron and Super Brainz, which in my opinion are the most OP characters in the game, but the others STILL play a crucial role in the team. I know PvZ BFN having no variants suck, but at least, IN THE VERY LEAST…the game is more balanced than it’s predecessors even it’s predecessors are better.
BFN is not balance especially super brains
@@kastenedwards1217 More balanced than PvZ GW2, Citron and Super Brainz are literally the best characters in their teams and can square off 1v1. Not to mention, every character is useable.
@@kastenedwards1217if you're whining about Brainium Basher like the many toddlers who do so, he's easy to counter using Shogun Guard or Citron since their shields block the dashes
I'm with you, BFN has a lot more balance than its predecessors
@@enderdudebruh8270 I’m whining lol all I said was bfn not balance especially super brains and bfn has less Characters they should be able to balance
If I am not mistaken doesn’t toxic pea have better splash than fire pea? Also you can’t compare the stock characters to their party versions. That is kinda cheep because you get one for free and the other you have to work for. Not only that they are supposed do be a better version of the stock ones.
VIDEO IDEA - you should do a video on best variants to pick for each team if they were all coordinated and specifically chose variants/characters to work together as a team for the best team line-up
Rock pea is so inaccurate because the shots take on some momentum from your movement direction, so if you walk to the left while shooticg, the shot will be angled to the left, it is not random, however utilising this is still pretty hard (also Painter has the same gimmick I believe)
I think he forgot that toxic status can spread to nearby enemies and is a definition crowd control
Being able to lock down and entire group of enemies from healing is super good, if one dude pops his head out and you hit him with toxic, all his teammates have now stopped healing… it’s crazy how overlooked that is
Yeah so they literally aren't useless
Idk what bros talking about
I feel like toxic pea is not that useless cause he also gives toxic damage to every zombie around him
he's not useless, he's just not as good as fire pea
6:54 small correction Firepea only lights zombies on fire on direct hits not with splash
whats the website fuji is using to see the stat difference in characters?
2:37 how it works is you have to get a shared vanquish while in your mech before your final kill to fill up your meter
Bluds milking the useless series after the first video blew up
Let’s go im not the on,y one playing this year im so happy
ok fuji u do know that toxic pea has a MUCH larger splash radius compared to fire pea so therefore toxic is a side grade to fire pea not a downgrade
i udnerstand if u think fire is better but toxic is not useless because of it
Archaeologist is peak 🗣️
If "useless" means there is a character within the class that is a direct upgrade. Does that mean people should only use toxic braniz, agent pea and captain cannon?
3:11 : reg brainz is as good as party and cosmic
Toxic Brainz: "am I a joke to you?"
6:35 that’s the reason people use him , there’s always people using hyper with toxic pea because of his lager hit radius
I thought he would mention Sun Pharaoh. Its three attack is a just silly downgrade!🤦🏽♂️
To get the party time mech, get shared vanquishes lol they count towards the meter
Chomp thing is so bad that it didn't even make it on the list because it's unbelievably useless to the point you forget that it even exists.
This is such a brainless take holy mother of god. Have you ever tried pairing the health regeneration upgrades with it? The thing becomes a kill streak machine since you regenerate a LOT of health, even if you're out of combat for like 3s
@@unrule. I'd rather use Armor Chomper. Chomp Thing isn't even capable of killing a 200 health character without overheating even if that player is AFK. I can't even imagine it in Garden Ops taking down any of the Bosses in Hard or Crazy Mode because it probably struggles in Normal mode and possibly even Easy mode with the amount of times it overheats before it has to kill any enemy with 200 or more health.
@@MufflesTheGerbil you do know you can spam click the attack button with spray characters to get increased DPS and avoid overheating, right? Also mb for being kinda hostile in my first comment
Doesn’t chomp thing also only have 135 hp?
Chomp thing and armored chomper are actually underrated as hell i prefer them over any of the spray chompers
How to buff all toxic chracters: Make toxic last longer the more you hit someone with it, kinda like poison damage. it still spreads to others but it does more dmg when it spreads and it lasts longer while doing the same dmg per tick, also increas the toxic aura of of the chracaters and make it were if they are in ur aura they take 5dmg per sec, along with a 15% dmg increase from all toxic sorces that are also in your aura. So say for example if a toxic pea and toxic citron are next to a zombie. you both will do 15% more dmg to them but not other variants that aren't toxic.
as a gw1 player, hearing toxic pea being called bad is music to my ears
Toxic Pea slander will not be tolerated.
Bro toxic pea has huge splash radius and it makes him way better then fire pea
if you didn't know , rock pea works like primal from pvz2 , where he can slow and push zombies
tho it isn't that strong it can still be felt
didn't they fix that glitch
Fuji: “Toxic damage is a worse version of fire damage
You can damage enemies by just standing near them as toxic variants sooo technically toxic is better then fire.
It’s definitely not better than fire, not even close
Toxic does a lot less damage then fire
But that is also a negative point, because if you want to go sneaky they can detect you before you can even shoot them
Toxic is probably better if enemies come close, it’s useless when range. But fire can deal 4-5 damage, which is already powerful and Toxic only gets a radius buff…which is sort of useless. Toxic Chomper is also one of the useless variants as they’re only Fire Chomper but worst, and can’t even be sneaky because of the toxicity…still is one of my favourite Chompers for some reason.
Since when do you just stand there doing nothing? 😂
Im loving this videos, keep making the gw2 alive!!!
half this vid are two party characters. not tryna hate bzút there are a lot more bad varients in the game. also if ur gonna do the o party character rout just go through all of em at least (except captain partyman cos he's just worse for soem reason)
Rock pea should have gotten some cc or utility.
Also you forgot dr toxic I know I know but he's so outclassed by everything it's kinda amazing
I have something to say about party imp, I think his mech music, MORE than makes up for his mech having less battery
6:25 what is the site you use to compare characters
Fandom
back to back to back bangers from fuj
The fact that there are uselless variants proves that Bfn not having variants is not a good point, because people only use the best variants and they come in lootboxes.
useless is the exaggerated term for (you dont need to play this because.. meta)
if toxic damage had faster tick damage maybe it would’ve been better
Imp is actually pretty good, even though it has a party imp, its still great for players like me who don't have any party characters. But the point of toxic variants is for when it damages zombies/plants near them due to the radiation, and toxic pea has a bigger cannon aoe(Good for hiders and partial misses.)
whats up PVZ fans
Lets talk about the crime zomboss has commited and which is the worst
Child Murder is my top pick on funniest crimes
Doesn’t Party Imp also get his mech faster than the regular imp?
No
Yeah he does lmao
@@Ihonestlydek No, you can test it in your backyard, but the party call doesn't have a cooldown difference with the regular z-mech call ability. Both have a 120 seconds cooldown.
It is complete bull spit to say that default imp and super brains are "useless" because the party characters outclass them. So this also makes chomper, corn, citron, rose, scientist, and pirate are "useless." Oh, and how could I forget, default peashooter is bad to since he has a fire variant. See why this isn't good? If imp and super brains are bad, so is every default.
Party corn has 5 less ammo i think but does the same DMG, Party citron does the same damage (Correct me if im wrong) party rose does less damage, partyman does less damage aswell, and scientist...why did you put scientist?
Good stuff !!
I am surprised that you didn't mention Mob Cob. He is basically a weaker Kernel Corn with a slower RoF.
Toxic damage isn't a downgrade of fire damage. Toxic peas isn't outclassed by fire pea, because toxic damage ment to have a huge blast radius, while fire is a more concentrated dmg
And DAMN rock pea is underrated. Electro pea is so overrated. You have to shoot so slowly, because you can... No you MUST blow up your shots. That's by far the worst pea
The copium from thinking Toxic damage has an actual use even considering it's advantages over fire damage... I can kinda overlook that.
Saying that Rock Pea is underrated... Kinda worrisome.
Saying that Electro Pea is overrated and claiming it's the worst pea of the game... Yeah, you have no idea what you're talking about.
Toxic chomper is the worst chomper
You do know chomp thing exist right?
You should talk about good abilities/ varients
He literally did just that
Chomp thing: now I been respected for once.
I feel like you should've used the variants in backyard or put gameplay of the same variant you're talking about
The way you get party time on the mech is by getting 4 kills then getting a shared in the mech hope this helped
Anybody remember when imps had 200 health? That was funny .
6:07 my favorite plant
Honestly same
They should make toxic damage last for longer but deal less damage. It should make fire damage better for offence but toxic damage to prevent natural healing
i really think that toxic brainz is really broken cause he can kill any boss with 5hits with his legendary power
Yea but the downside to the party variants is that they’re way harder to get because they’re legendary. So it’s no wonder they’re better than the defaults.
part 2?
With what did you compare the stats
I would say a usless Is variant is anything that is worse then stock while also not having a useful gimmick.
Actually the toxic plants deal dmg to zombies just standing near them witch is great for the toxic chomper bc he's close range that means he's dealing double toxic dmg if he's shooting
Where was toxic brainz in the top 3 super brainz?
Toxic Brains isn't good. He relies heavily on his meter to get kills
@@announcer6114 that's horseshit, it's stupidly easy to charge his meter. Maybe he's not so good on PC but on console he's the most broken character in the game
@@GNVS300 yeah I agree than on console he’s broken, I can’t talk for pc tho so idk
@@GNVS300 I'm on console, it doesn't matter how easy it is the fill your meter he's still almost useless without it
He's 4th best at max
You should do worst and best customization for characters for example the worst imp hat is robo shark and the best hat is burg boy
i feel like that's more opinion
Ya friendly reminder that party characters are gotten by and only the shards ya get from the dino games (forgot the names)
Isn’t regular sunflower just flat out worse than shadow flower?
Pretty sure that's to be expected, a superrare (i think) variant is better than stock
@@rathermischeviousmannot necessarily. Generally speaking even the stock has something going for it and that is usually raw damage. Take the base pea shooter for example. It hits the hardest with direct fire at 37 damage.
Not really she's got harsher dmg drop off and her projectiles travel slower
Awesome video !!
I always done better with toxic chomper than the other spray chompers also it’s funny that captain partyman is worse than stock but every other party character is better than stock
Rose
Party Rose is an outright downgrade to Stock
doesnt swamp thing get technically more dps than the other spray chompers if you mash the fire button
So if there was a fire version of super brains and was also a legendary variant he would be on top.
I'm actually curious is there a veriant mod to have a magma brains variant that is actually more broken than toxic brains?
The real most useless chomper is Armored Chomper, for a class that relies on its fast burrow ability having it be very slow is not worth its dps and health. As chomper a lot of your kills should be from just eating opponents so his dps buff doesn’t even matter
Rock Pea should do more damage. Give him a low clip but high direct hit damage and decent splash.
Sorry I disagree with you toxic pea has splashed then fire pea and 1.67 DPS means nothing
Yes🍕
Ok
I agree
Egg
@@dan_the_man9990 I disagree
@@flyingtank I cannot believe you….
well i don’t got party characters do i? i only got reg super brainz
I dont hate your content, its actually quite good. One issue.
Whilst the Abilities video did make sense: its so that players can learn to qdapt to what works for them. Same with characters.
PvZ GW2 is about having goofy, funny haha moments all around ( I once saw a peashooter get sprint tackled into a ZPG, good times ) aln less abput dominating the ranks and having the whole lobby hate you because you have 192 kills in a game of gnome bomb as Astronaut.
I havent played this for a while but I have 20 hours on Rock Peashooter for some reason I mustve liked that one alot
I don't like to believe that any character in GW2 is a bad character tbh. At the end of the day, it just goes with personal preference and if you know for sure on how to use that character. I'm a Toxic Pea main and I'm able to get some work done more than Fire Pea believe it or not. A thing you have to consider as well, even though fire does more damage than toxic damage, toxic damage is the only damage that can be dealt while your just standing there, which would balanace it out for characters like Toxic Chomper when you need to be close no matter what.
I believe what Popcap wants us to do with these characters is to choose one that fits the scenario the best, either by the scenery, the game modes or even the foes that you're facing. Even the maps themselves give you a fair idea on what characters would be a better fit for that map. Sometimes I see characters that almost no one plays at all, and I end matches with them hitting 20 kills or more per match (EX: I could be playing as Super Commando, while a General Supremo could be playing the game as if it was lightwork).
As mentioned before, I don't think every character is useless, it just wires down to preference, who is able to use them and how they use them. Everyone character was meant for someone, but not every character is meant for everyone
ur forgetting that toxic chomper is more kissable than fire chomper.
what if you just make a playlist of useless things in pvz gw2?
with armer chomper you do more damage but in barrow you go as slow as rock pea without hyper
For rock pea he is the only pea in the game to survive a rocket while in his pea Gatling
Don’t disrespect my boy stock imp 😔
If I buy the deluxe edition do I get the game I read the description on ps4 and it doesn’t say anything
Huh?
Toxic peashooter has considerable more blast radius...?
Don't care, now I'll go for it as hard as I can
what about the pirate with the laser shark whitch is out classed by the base form
all parties are the same as regular lol
Toxic brains is so good just land ten punches and your 3 punching like everyone
Well, rock pea in pea gatling can tank a multi rocket and multi ultra ball
Unless im a dumbass isnt toxic pea better than fire bc he has like really good splash
Rock Pea might be "useless" compared to the rest of the Peashooters, however it's a Peashooter still. While Rock Pea doesn't have as much speed as the rest of the Peashooters, he still has the same small hitbox that the rest of them have.
As well as having the same Peashooter kit of Abilities, which speaking of. Rock Pea's major benefit in my opinion is it's synergy with Pea Gatling's Armor Buff.
Pea Gatling has a 60% Armor Buff which makes any Peashooter that equips the helmet and roots themselves into the ground have 60% more Effective Health. For most Peashooters that Effective Health is 200. For Agent Pea, that is only 160 which who tf uses Pea Gatling with Agent anyways?
Rock Pea however gets 240 Effective Health with Pea Gatling's Armor. Which is actually pretty effective at survivability and is the one Peashooter that I'm comfortable enough with to use the ability on.
So, while Rock Pea isn't useful, he certainly isn't completely useless. Just underpowered and a tad bit underrated in my opinion.
*With Health Upgrade; 110 > 176 / 135 > 216 / 160 > 256
I never had thought I would've ever heard a GW2 player in general (either who hasn't played the game or is an experienced veteran) that Toxic Peashooter is the worst variant of all the peas.
First of all, that is insanely incorrect, is he the best peashooter in the game? Of course not, is he the worst peashooter? Hell freaking no??? I will be a bit biased over this since I main Toxic peashooter in both GW1 and 2 but even then, a lot of players would agree that Toxic Peashooter is literally one of the best peashooters in the entire game, most would say even better than fire.
Second of all, Toxic isn't a bad effect overall, yes, it's weaker than fire but what toxic characters usually excel at is their incredible lingering and burst damage for easy damage to the player even when you aren't good at aiming. And toxic becomes better once you know that Toxic also SPREADS on other players. I've been killed by toxic WAY more than fire because fire doesn't spread unlike toxic.
And THIRD of all, if we are actually talking about the worst peashooter variant overall. You can give that crown to freaking Rock Peashooter. The ONLY thing going for rock pea is that it has more health. I'm pretty sure that rock pea is JUST a bulkier peashooter, not to mention it is freaking slow. It takes me ages to arrive from one checkpoint to the next with rock pea than with any other peashooter variant.
Being able to live longer is great and all, but as many other "tanky" variants, you won't be able to live for long if you can't even kill the dude.
A perfect example of the "tanky characters" problem is Iron citron himself. Before we start, i know that iron citron is freaking overpowered, but here's the thing, Iron Citron is absolute garbage unless you give him the reload upgrades. Once you give him those, Iron Citron absolutely dominates the battlefield from having high health and great dps because of his fire rate being upgraded.
Edit: I just got to rock pea, I didn't notice that, but still if there are any other variants that could be worse than toxic pea, I would say variants like Ice or commando pea could be there. They aren't bad at all cause they're peashooters, but they aren't the best variants either. Ice isn't really a strong effect and Commando pea is just a foot soldier with a lower dps and a steeper damage dropoff
I mean toxic brains is the best super hero…party brains is the second…and stock brainz is pretty neat
Toxic brainz is so much better then any superbrainz
Uh oh I hear moist critical the grammer police pulling up😅