Am 74, this is the most perfect movie I have ever seen. Saw it in a theatre last summer, want to see it again but only on the big screen, in the dark and munching on popcorn. Lot of history in this movie, makes you think, read, research and ask questions.
At this point they were actually more afraid of the bomb failing to detonate than anything, because then they would have to go out and personally examine a live, fully armed nuclear bomb up close to analyze what failed.
What I found most interesting about this movie was the persecution Oppenheimer suffered after the war. I did not know he'd been targeted like that, and it made me think: Two of the people most instrumental in bringing the deadliest war in human history (at the time) to its successful end, Robert Oppenheimer and Alan Turing, were treated in disgusting fashion by their countries after the war.
Bainbridge was furious with Fermi for terrifying the guards by making wagers on igniting the atmosphere. His own biggest fear was if the device failed...he'd have to go up the tower to investigate.
For some context the thing with statistics _especially_ theoretical statistics is that there's no such thing as "impossible" only "improbable" You can have 0.however many zeros you feel like after it but there's no absolute. Is it possible that judgement day is tomorrow? Yes. Is it probable? Considering there's no concrete evidence it's unlikely. However an improbable outcome only becomes impossible after another outcome has already passed.
But it is known that oppenheimer was manifesting concerns about this outcome. He is a scientific so he is used to work with near zero values. If he was manifesting concerns, it was not just a "near zero certainty". I think it was more like : "If our calculations are correct, and we hope they are, then, it's near zero".
Thanks for the kind demonstration of science head, which even high ranking military people need reminding of sometimes. That ending remark sums it up: "impossible" means something else, defined, is what's possible. I taught writing for the sciences for second year undergrads, and you'd be amused how dismayed they are to find out they can't use the word "prove" on lab write-ups, no matter how hefty their stats were.😃
In terms of wartime spending...the entire Manhattan Project cost was the equivalent of only 9 days....$2.4B was total allocation at the end of the war, and 84% of that went into the plants at Oak Ridge and Hanford for uranium and plutonium production. 4 bombs were ultimately built...Trinity Gadget, Little Boy, Fatman, and a 2nd Fatman bomb that was never used but was expected to be ready by 19 August 1945. Truman declared that no other bombs would be dropped without his approval. Japan formally surrendered on August 15th, 1945.
@@swaggery The B29 was already tested by Boeing in 1942, and was introduced to the Army Air Corps in January 1944 to give extended range and capability over the B-17 necessary for the longer distances in the Pacific.
One day, years from now. People will look back at Oppenheimer and say that it wasn't just one of the greatest movies of the decade, but also one of the greatest of all time as well.
Not drama haha just near zero, not impossible. Because of the possible reaction of the diazote in atmosphere, really really near zero ... but, limits of the theories.
Such a pity they muffed the bomb scene. There was an opportunity to show something incredible but we got a classic Hollywood gasoline fireball instead.
The chilling part is that they explained to the government how it would be more devastating to have the reaction occur above ground. RIP those from Hiroshima and Nagasaki😔
“You’re saying there’s a chance that asteroid could hit earth?” “Highly unlikely, probability of impact is near zero.” “NEAR zero??” “What do you want with theory alone?” “Zero, would be nice.”
I think they are only talking about the personel directly invoöved in the bomb. Of course the manhatten Project had many contractors etc. but those werent directly involved nor knowing, they helped building the bomb.
@wilhufftarkin5852 Actually, they were. After one of the main scientists visited Oak Ridge an issue of safety was raised. A large discussion ensued at the end of which Dr. Oppenheimer dispatched Richard Feynman to go to Oak Ridge and deliver a message. "We cannot guarantee the safety of this facility if you do not tell them what they are working with." The Colonel decided to tell 100,000 the largest secret of the war. It is chronolized in "Surely, you are joking Mr. Feynman". It proved to be the right move as two of the main storage facilities for the end product where only seperated by a wall, little concern for radiation and could have set off a meltdown. The 120,000 counted only those working directly on it, mainly scientist and the two enrichment facilities. Outside contractors where also needed to finish the Tennessee Valley Authority damn. It is why Werner Heisenburg did not attempt to make one for Germany the utter manpower required was too great.
@@adamroach3771 Then i propbably got something wrong but i still think the 4000 refers to tjose directly involved into the bomb, not all the buclear science around it and facilities needed to build it.
@@governorTarkin It may be the staff at Los Alamos or the combined scientific staffs at the main scientific locations. Since most of the workers were at the enrichment sites. Most construction workers and about 40,000 operators. They say over half a million people cycled through. The 129,000 was the peak employment number so it doesn't even account for the full number. Your absolutely right that not everyone actually knew what they were working on. The construction workers only knew that they were building a top secret largest building and towns that don't exist. The operators knew they were working with nuclear material that was extremely dangerous. The military knew it was a bomb. The scientist knew how it was a bomb.
This is my favorite part of the movie. Are we saying there's a chance that when we push that button, we destroy the world? Chances are near zero. Near zero? What do you want with theory alone :)? Zero would be nice. I didn't actually watch this in theaters because the runtime dissuaded me. I'm glad I didn't watch it in theaters because I might have fallen asleep. Some parts were really boring. I had to watch this in two sessions.
Christopher is a director from Britain who wants to educate people or make them think with his films, he chooses far out nerdy ideas...almost as if he works for British intelligence.
You know I'm pretty sure they had that storm before the test in real life. And as it appears in the movie it was a pretty bad one. To me it felt as if God or the universe or whatever you want to call it was trying to tell and to signal to mankind "Don't do this, final warning, don't do this!" Chilling. Anyone here had similar thoughts?
Felt that way too. Mother Nature raining down on what was about to become the worst possible thing to happen to her. In a way you can imagine the violins are like Mother Nature's anxiety, she's so scared of what's about to happen :(
I didn't connect with this one. And no offense to anyone but does the Oscar winner have any other facial expressions? Seemed that he was the same in a series for years? So just asking humbly is this the future for Oscar winners?
I find Matt Damon’s acting here far from scintillating. Movies have become such corporate enterprises it really has taken away the magic. Not saying not a decent film but I mean come on.
I agree, also that movie included the Demon Core scene which was the first known nuclear accident. It was frightening and engrossing. This one should have included it as well, huge oversight not to.
This movie which is obvious from the title focused almost entirely on Oppenheimer. Fatman and little boy was more about the entire Manhattan project. That being said I was less than impressed with Matt Damon in this movie, I believe Paul Newman did a much better job at Gen Groves.
That goofy smile after “what do you want from theory alone?” gets me every time
Zero would be nice 😂😂
Same here i was he is such a great actor
Cillian Murphy was born to play this part 👍 a worthy winner
The music mannn. The music. What an epic movie.
such an amazing experience in the cinema, enveloped by loud music
Right here in River City
too loud to understand dialogue
When a theoretical physicist says "near zero" it's a value so small that it's beyond our comprehension. They are masters of understatement,
Am 74, this is the most perfect movie I have ever seen. Saw it in a theatre last summer, want to see it again but only on the big screen, in the dark and munching on popcorn. Lot of history in this movie, makes you think, read, research and ask questions.
Member Of The Wedding ain't bad.
Eloquently put sir.
I went to see it in a massive theater with a premium audio system. It was a packed house. It was one of the greatest movie experiences for me.
At this point they were actually more afraid of the bomb failing to detonate than anything, because then they would have to go out and personally examine a live, fully armed nuclear bomb up close to analyze what failed.
I love how he's so chill in this scene 😂
I mean either he succeeds and ends the war, or the planet is destroyed and he ends the war lol
his face when he says 'what you want from theory alone' is gold lololol Didn't see that coming @@Montyandrew45
What I found most interesting about this movie was the persecution Oppenheimer suffered after the war. I did not know he'd been targeted like that, and it made me think: Two of the people most instrumental in bringing the deadliest war in human history (at the time) to its successful end, Robert Oppenheimer and Alan Turing, were treated in disgusting fashion by their countries after the war.
вы уверены, что именно Тьюринг и Оппенгеймер закончили вторую мировую?
“3 years, 4 thousand people, 2 billion dollars.”
And it all payed off.
dont know where you got 2 billion dollars but that certainly wasn't the budget of this film.
that was a quote from this clip @@davidkuklin995
@@davidkuklin995it was the budget for building the nuke…
@@RahulThakur-qd7pp I see, my bad I’m stupid
@@davidkuklin995 He is literally quoting the first 5 seconds of this clip. Come on dude 😂
Oppenheimmer will be a movie that future generations Will call a clássic ❤
Bainbridge was furious with Fermi for terrifying the guards by making wagers on igniting the atmosphere. His own biggest fear was if the device failed...he'd have to go up the tower to investigate.
Nice info. I'm just imagining Josh Peck trying to play that scene lol
And the Oscar goes to Christopher Nolan 👏🏼
He's nominated for both best director and best screenplay writer. He's bound to get one. Maybe even both.
@@LukeKetchum7003And he did! 🎉
@@mithunnair8475yeah let’s freaking go!!
I love when Private Ryan cooperating with former gangster Thomas Shelby
Jason Bourne and Dr Crane
And he is a botanist!!! And a pirate of mars
I'd say Thomas Shelby and Carroll Shelby.
So he went from private to general in 25 years. Not bad.
jason bourne Sr doing side quests before David webb became Jason bourne
what a masterpiece
This is probably one of the best dialogues I have ever seen in a movie.
And the Oscar goes to Cillian Murphy ♥️
☘️☘️☘️🙏🙏🙏
And he got it!
Fantastic 🎉🎉🎉
For some context the thing with statistics _especially_ theoretical statistics is that there's no such thing as "impossible" only "improbable" You can have 0.however many zeros you feel like after it but there's no absolute.
Is it possible that judgement day is tomorrow? Yes. Is it probable? Considering there's no concrete evidence it's unlikely. However an improbable outcome only becomes impossible after another outcome has already passed.
Interesting
But it is known that oppenheimer was manifesting concerns about this outcome. He is a scientific so he is used to work with near zero values. If he was manifesting concerns, it was not just a "near zero certainty". I think it was more like : "If our calculations are correct, and we hope they are, then, it's near zero".
This was so well said
Thanks for the kind demonstration of science head, which even high ranking military people need reminding of sometimes. That ending remark sums it up: "impossible" means something else, defined, is what's possible. I taught writing for the sciences for second year undergrads, and you'd be amused how dismayed they are to find out they can't use the word "prove" on lab write-ups, no matter how hefty their stats were.😃
The bomb went off; then, one of them was finished.
or was he, as we talk about him almost 80 years later? :)
He wasn’t finished he made more money and did more than he was before he became an international celebrity and will be remembered forever.
In terms of wartime spending...the entire Manhattan Project cost was the equivalent of only 9 days....$2.4B was total allocation at the end of the war, and 84% of that went into the plants at Oak Ridge and Hanford for uranium and plutonium production. 4 bombs were ultimately built...Trinity Gadget, Little Boy, Fatman, and a 2nd Fatman bomb that was never used but was expected to be ready by 19 August 1945. Truman declared that no other bombs would be dropped without his approval. Japan formally surrendered on August 15th, 1945.
It also cost more to research and develop the long range bomber that would drop the bombs than that actual bomb itself.
@@swaggery The B29 was already tested by Boeing in 1942, and was introduced to the Army Air Corps in January 1944 to give extended range and capability over the B-17 necessary for the longer distances in the Pacific.
@@jamesfrank3213 yes but b29 program cost was higher then Manhattan Project
"I don't want to set the world on fire....."
One day, years from now. People will look back at Oppenheimer and say that it wasn't just one of the greatest movies of the decade, but also one of the greatest of all time as well.
This movie was a blast :)
He was Zachary in 'The New Adventures of Pinocchio', who was voiced by Paul Kligman, same guy that did J. Jonah Jameson on the 1967 Spiderman cartoon.
Chances of Christopher Nolan having a bad movie-near zero
Why is CBS morning show the only one posting all the oppenheimer clips 😂
the only ones who have permission
Let's not be greedy 😉
😂sense of humor spot on
After they did the calculations, it was determined that it was impossible by a long shot. This is just movie drama here.
Not drama haha just near zero, not impossible. Because of the possible reaction of the diazote in atmosphere, really really near zero ... but, limits of the theories.
Are you saying there is a chance that when we push that button we destroy the world? 😅
Oppenheimer betting on no less than 3 kt, it ended up being 25 kt.
"Batman Begins star?
Correct. Cillian Murphy played Scarecrow in Batman Begins.
And so many more wonderful movies plus of course the iconic Tommy Shelby in Peaky Blinders 🔥
“What are the chances of a nuclear exchange in the 21st century” “near 0, but 0 would be nice”
he was physics man
Best movie
Thumbnail looks like it was shot on iphone
Such a pity they muffed the bomb scene. There was an opportunity to show something incredible but we got a classic Hollywood gasoline fireball instead.
im gonna complain a bit. damn nolan lower the volume so i can hear their dialogue. Tenet was near impossible to listen to lol.
The chilling part is that they explained to the government how it would be more devastating to have the reaction occur above ground.
RIP those from Hiroshima and Nagasaki😔
“You’re saying there’s a chance that asteroid could hit earth?”
“Highly unlikely, probability of impact is near zero.”
“NEAR zero??”
“What do you want with theory alone?”
“Zero, would be nice.”
This is why two shelby never allow to be together in one room. Because they planned to make an Atomic Bomb
Where are they getting 4000 people. It took 120,000.
I think they are only talking about the personel directly invoöved in the bomb. Of course the manhatten Project had many contractors etc. but those werent directly involved nor knowing, they helped building the bomb.
@wilhufftarkin5852 Actually, they were. After one of the main scientists visited Oak Ridge an issue of safety was raised. A large discussion ensued at the end of which Dr. Oppenheimer dispatched Richard Feynman to go to Oak Ridge and deliver a message. "We cannot guarantee the safety of this facility if you do not tell them what they are working with." The Colonel decided to tell 100,000 the largest secret of the war. It is chronolized in "Surely, you are joking Mr. Feynman". It proved to be the right move as two of the main storage facilities for the end product where only seperated by a wall, little concern for radiation and could have set off a meltdown. The 120,000 counted only those working directly on it, mainly scientist and the two enrichment facilities. Outside contractors where also needed to finish the Tennessee Valley Authority damn. It is why Werner Heisenburg did not attempt to make one for Germany the utter manpower required was too great.
@@adamroach3771 Then i propbably got something wrong but i still think the 4000 refers to tjose directly involved into the bomb, not all the buclear science around it and facilities needed to build it.
@@governorTarkin It may be the staff at Los Alamos or the combined scientific staffs at the main scientific locations. Since most of the workers were at the enrichment sites. Most construction workers and about 40,000 operators. They say over half a million people cycled through. The 129,000 was the peak employment number so it doesn't even account for the full number. Your absolutely right that not everyone actually knew what they were working on. The construction workers only knew that they were building a top secret largest building and towns that don't exist. The operators knew they were working with nuclear material that was extremely dangerous. The military knew it was a bomb. The scientist knew how it was a bomb.
I saw this movie on a plane. The part where they are developing the bomb is...mesmerizing
why would you do that to yourself?
Watching this masterpiece on a little plane screen is a crime against humanity
So they thought this weapon could destroy all life on Earth and they used it anyway. FML 😑
just two dudes, casually chatting about the possible end of the world
This is my favorite part of the movie.
Are we saying there's a chance that when we push that button, we destroy the world? Chances are near zero. Near zero? What do you want with theory alone :)? Zero would be nice.
I didn't actually watch this in theaters because the runtime dissuaded me. I'm glad I didn't watch it in theaters because I might have fallen asleep. Some parts were really boring. I had to watch this in two sessions.
Christopher is a director from Britain who wants to educate people or make them think with his films, he chooses far out nerdy ideas...almost as if he works for British intelligence.
You know I'm pretty sure they had that storm before the test in real life. And as it appears in the movie it was a pretty bad one. To me it felt as if God or the universe or whatever you want to call it was trying to tell and to signal to mankind "Don't do this, final warning, don't do this!"
Chilling. Anyone here had similar thoughts?
Felt that way too. Mother Nature raining down on what was about to become the worst possible thing to happen to her.
In a way you can imagine the violins are like Mother Nature's anxiety, she's so scared of what's about to happen :(
@@ReMattch Yeah I can imagine
A storm before the release of something infinitely worse than any storm: the key to hell’s gates on earth
@@Echolightr Yep...
reminds me of COVID-19 for some reason...
the sexual tension between them is as dense as a nuclear bomb
What? xD
Or your mind is just dirty
How much was 2 billion dollars in 1945!?
Answer
Durm roll
A lot of money
The only bad thing about this movie was the bomb explosion effects
The Nazis took us to the moon and Jewish people brought us nuclear weapons. Sorry, but who were the bad guys again?
Matt Damon playing Matt Damon.
now the world is dying because atomic bomb which kind of mess up
I didn't connect with this one. And no offense to anyone but does the Oscar winner have any other facial expressions? Seemed that he was the same in a series for years? So just asking humbly is this the future for Oscar winners?
I find Matt Damon’s acting here far from scintillating. Movies have become such corporate enterprises it really has taken away the magic. Not saying not a decent film but I mean come on.
What did you think of Cillian?
What reaction would you have preferred?
First
Fatman and Little Boy was a much better movie. Hollywood can't come up with anything new so they trash old movies with pathetic talent.
I agree, also that movie included the Demon Core scene which was the first known nuclear accident. It was frightening and engrossing. This one should have included it as well, huge oversight not to.
This movie which is obvious from the title focused almost entirely on Oppenheimer. Fatman and little boy was more about the entire Manhattan project. That being said I was less than impressed with Matt Damon in this movie, I believe Paul Newman did a much better job at Gen Groves.
@@5133937 lord this is about Oppenheimer not louis slottin
This movie was grea
This music is crap. Spoils it. Put music where it belongs. This is certainly not the right place.
Looks so boring
go watch fast and furious
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