I agree with you and Diana. When I was young I was assaulted. My mother's bishop told me that if I didn't die in the assault then I hadn't fought hard enough. Even as young as I was that created a hate in me. I told him that if he considered my only worth and honor was centered in what was between my legs, then I didn't want his honor. I didn't want to be seen as worthy to him and his kind. If they preferred me dead rather alive and abused, then I didn't prefer their consideration. I am worth more than just my vagina.
This was a beautiful, intense, heartbreaking episode. I just adored it. Because it felt like Outlander, and the book really came alive. I full on cried when Bree said to Claire the same thing Lizzie said to her. Just give Sam and Cait all the awards. Claire’s “shattered speech” and Jamie’s “kill them all.” Chills.
Thank you for your review- I agree wholeheartedly. The episode was intense and heartbreaking but so wonderfully acted. The use of the alternate universe was brilliant. I was literally shaking watching the scenes...Sam and Cat both deserve best actor awards for this season. Slàinte!
I haven't read book 6 yet I can see Mrs. Bug could do it too..but somewhat really loved that Marsali did it..she is such a bad ass character, love her!
Amy Angell That was my thought when I finished but someone pointed out to me that the drums were brought in in the very beginning when they are recapping the last episode. That drumbeat between the scenes.
Great comments ! I was SO happy to hear Sam/Jamie speak so much in this episode ! I thought the time traveler wanting to get out of this era was pretty informative! Every character was stellar in the episode!
This episode has been mind-blowing for me. Phenomenal performances by all the actors, especially Cait and Sam. I was actually cheering when Jamie said: "Kill them all;" and Marsali killed Lionel. But, I was over the moon, when they included my favourite Jamie line: "When the day shall come, that we do part, if my last words are not I love you - ye'll ken it was because I didna have time." Love all your reviews, looking forward to your Outlander content during Droughtlander. Take care.
I think this whole season had precious and powerful moments. At the end of season 4, I was doubtful there would be a future for the series, in spite of the amazing finale. This season for me, for beyond the citations and the events themselves, in different occasions was able to encapsulate the spirit of the books and its characters. Above all, Jamie Fraser came back in all his glory (even with that horrible wig during Claire's "dream"!). In this finale they even showed some skin, for heaven's sake, it was so beautiful to see Claire naked with all those bruises... Anyway, the quote from Jamie voiceover comes from The Fiery Cross very first page. Many cuddles to Sam to be able to say the things he says and never sound ridiculously cheesy.
I agree that having the MacKenzies try to travel early was a cheap trick. They should have included the discussion between Roger and Jamie about "knowing if the child is yours." I think that would have given the ending so much more punch, but was effectively filmed. Thanks for a very thoughtful review.
Great review Jenn! I thought the episode was really well done! A lot of care went into the making of the episode. I loved how they did the 60's home as Claire's mental refuge. I really didn't want to see all the gory details. So I'm happy they did it this way. Whoever did the makeup did an excellent job! My heart was breaking just seeing all the bruises and damage done to Claire. And the acting was so definitely Emmy worthy! What a powerful episode! I was totally hooked from the first minute to the last! I even had my tissues next to me this time! And I was saying, Kill them all, along with Jamie! I also cheered Marsali for giving Lionel the death shot of water hemlock! She's really been a wonderful character. I got it right on the round trip ticket through the stones. All the crying I did last week for nothing! Powerful episode! I've really enjoyed this season. I think having Sam and Caitriona as co-producers has made the show a lot better. Thank you so much! I'm glad I found your channel! I'll be here watching your droughtlander material. In the meantime, I'll probably do a re-read of the entire series. Have a great week! 😊
While watching the finale I was thinking the exact same thing you said in the beginning.."They can make this, why did they not do this all along!" This quality in direction and creativity, the dialogues.. was all amazing...loved every minute of it. Caitriona and Sam were so so good I was crying the entire time.
Sahana Arani I think they(Producers fixate on certain big, quote “book moments” they want to go for and feel if they put them into the season they are good. When in fact what fans want is strong, consistent storytelling accross the board. In season one and to some degree season two, that is what they did. The mold is not broken, they don’t need to fix it but rather follow it!
@@karolnicks-suber3814 So well said!! Totally agree..Season 1, 2 and even 3 were really amazing to me and I think season 2 is my favorite! Did you enjoy the finale? What did you like/dislike about it? :)
Sahana Arani Lets Star with Caitriona’s performance, what an amazing actor she is. She embodies the character in a manner that is nothing short of masterful. Next, the stunning 60’s dream escape sequences. I saw where some thought they were overdone, I couldn’t disagree more. I think it was Matt Roberts Idea and it was a stroke of genius. I’m often critical of Matt’s show running buts it’s only because I want him to do better. I also loved Marsali avenging Claire and protecting her family by ushering the vile Lionel Brown our of this world and hopefully to hell!. What I didn’t like was the choice to show the men lining up to rape Claire. That didn’t happen in the book and it wasn’t needed here. It felt gratuitous. I also felt at an episode time of 50 minutes, they took 10 minutes from us which could have been used to give the episode a little more time to breath. But all that said, I would give it 5 out of 5 stars. Episode 512 is Outstanding Television. Caitriona Balfe is not human.
Your reviews of Outlander are the best on youtube. You show the emotions we all feel about these books and attachments to these characters whether in the book or on the series. I do watch other reviews and they just don't get it. They refer to the books without remembering even close to what actually happens. We all know these are book characters but it doesn't change the feelings these characters instill in each of us. We love them all and want the series to stay true to that narrative. Adding, subtracting scenes and plots go for it just don't damage their heart.
Your review was great -- thorough and spot on. The only thing I can add is that I was also moved by the performances of Ian and Fergus. When they all came for the rescue, Jamie wielded his sword and reminded us of Prestonpans; Ian was the quintessential Mohawk warrior; and Fergus, even one-handed was slashing with a vengeance. I will never forget their facial expressions when they saw Claire's beaten and bruised body and the tears in Jamie's eyes. When Myers offered her his knife to wreak her vengeance and Ian and Fergus replied that they will kill for her too -- I was overcome. Ian and Fergus did an excellent job of showing their shock and distress and their love and devotion to Claire.
Wow wow wow that was intense, raw, emotional experience watching this episode. Man I'm blown away by these actors OMG!!!! I had such an emotional reaction. At the end when Jamie his holding her and she says "safe" that tugs at my heartstrings. I don't have words. Just amazement
I lo0o0ove your recap because it touched my heart and told the emotions I had when I watched but couldn't express.. And that's why I liked your video and subscribed to your channel coz I know that I'll enjoy watching more of your videos specifically during the drought lander.. The episode was so perfect like you said but inspite Claire is so brave, I felt that we needed more of Jamie supporting her through that rough time..
I read all outlander books and watch all tv shows. Thanks for all that you do. I agree with you that they chose to do outlander as a tv show instead of a movie. It’s longer and more detail. But I see your point not all is like the book. I did cry too. Keep drinking. You are adorable. Thanks for your videos
you did well! hardly any crying. my notes pretty much agree with your thoughts. something from last week i may have already said, would a man like lionel brown let his wife say no? anyway... claire's "fortress of solitude" was so well done. the show people did good. all the imagery. was that a painting of the big house on fire? the leaky roof. I remember jamie going up in the middle of the night maybe to fix a leak, but i'm not sure that was the reference. jamie's clothes weren't modern like marsali and everybody else. (it would be strange to see jamie in a 3 piece.) I loved hearing "just the two of us now." it seemed like a waste of time to have the mackenzie's not go thru. this episode was so good, i'll just not pick on that. this was one of my favorite parts of the books. I think what's wrong with me liking something so awful. now I know i'm not the only one. "kill them all." I remember getting shivers the first time I read that line. I need to take a break. I thought I had more to say. I may get back to you later. thanks for doing this.
I thought the point of them not going forward in time might have been for them both to realize that they really did want to stay with the family, deep down, so they wouldn't have any doubts and accept their decision?
Short hair Jamie surprised me and all the little bits of throwback in her disassociation was a perfect way to play it. The psych out with Roger/Bree/Jem was a cheap shot but it was a quicker way to give them a moment of drama and didn't take away to much time for more important plot. The size of my grin when Jamie said "kill them all" OOOOOOO so happy with a tinge of short lived guilt. Things happening to you is different from things being done too you. Marsali is season 5 MVP! I believe the voice over is the prologue of TFC? Ending on safe was *chefs kiss*. I hope all this extra time gives the writers time to really refine season 6 and make it strong.
love your commentary on the show. It's like chatting with a gf about it, and no one else i know is interested in the show, so this is really nice. Thank you for speaking so passionately about it
Hey! I made blackberry whisky for myself last Christmas, and that's my sip of choice now! How about that? Splendid review, except that Amazon didn't include the warning we should all have had. I have to watch the episode again and re read the Chapter in 'Breath of Snow and Ashes'. They couldn't have had Murdina Bug kill Lionel Brown, because so far they've not mentioned the French Gold at all, insofar that it involves Jocasta, beyond her grief at her daughter's death. But Marsali was the obvious choice and portrayed it brilliantly. I'm still needing time and space to recover! Thank you for the review, and I may well go back and watch your previous Outlander reviews (if possible).
You said how people love these violent crisis episodes the best, and that the show does them the best. I think this show does every kind of episode wonderfully!! And I don't think we love them the best because of their subject matter. I think they stick with us and we never forget them because they are so shocking and traumatic. It's not that we love them, they just affect our psyche so much.
Sorry if it’s already been said but I did get the producers talk at the end of the episode and there was no sneak peak of that other show. I know several people didn’t get to see it. Its probably floating around youtube now if u really want to see it.
Just found your recaps and love them! One teensy thing that I'd love -- if you looked at the camera when you record? It's the only thing that would make you even more awesome!
So... I'm new to your channel but I love that you are reviewing both the book and the show together. I, of course, am very literal with the book and it disappoints me so much when the show takes such liberties. To me this should be the easiest show in the world to act, direct, and film, because basically you just open up page one and star. The dialogue is all written there for you, the action scenes are all there for you... Anyways... My criticism of this episode is because of the reasoning behind why the Brown's did what they did to Claire and also the whole scene from Jamie getting his vengeance or or the whole vengeance scene against the Brown's. I too believe that the Dr Rawlings story is just not plausible enough for people to go to war about, or to pick a fight with a family on the ridge. If they had stuck with the fact that this was a personal attack on Jamie himself for not joining their marauding policing of the area, they could have sold this better. And also I really really missed Roger playing the bodrum. In the book you could just see the men sitting around the fire laughing, and gloating, and carrying on... then you hear drums... And they're getting closer... And you can't see anything, it's total darkness out there... And then the assassins fly out of the trees and start killing everybody. That's what needed to be done in the show. I didn't feel that Highlander rage and savagery. And I felt like the whole Bree and Roger - last episode saying goodbye wasted opportune minutes for screen time for something else, and then they cheat us by not going back (although they didn't go back at this point), I just feel like we lost so much story that could have been there... Again, open the book and just film from the book. But I was glad that we were able to get some really great moments. But yeah... I mean they just should have stuck with the whole reason behind why the Brown's were after Jamie to begin with.
I agree! The Whiskey was already introduced and mentioned and the Browns new about it. It would be extremely bold for them to charge into Claire's surgery to take her from the Ridge, rather than having her be away from the house.
The police officer who gave Claire the bad news about Roger and Brianna in her fortress of solitude was Lionel Brown, could it possibly be that even in her fortress of solitude the badness she's experiencing is creeping into her mind. Also I recognised Isaiah (the actor) in the line of the six men who harmed her being killed by Ian or maybe I'm hallucinating, it's not unusual to use the same actors for multiple roles.
I was brutally raped & sodomized at age 12. This was by far the hardest thing I ever watched. It was raw & real. Cristina B managed to show how rape cuts a person soul into peices that can only be healed with time and love. Took me years to get over PTSD and years of fighting the family of the man who destroyed my childhood. If this episode does anything I hope it shows men how strong we women really are. You can destroy our flesh but you cannot destroy out hearts.
While like you I have a lot of critics on this season as a whole I thought this episode was was done really well, and is a good episode to leave off on (especially because this is probably going to be the biggest droughtlander we've ever had). I really appreciated the book parts and the nods to prior seasons and episodes. In addition to the nods you mentioned I thought it was really sweet that Bree told Claire exactly what Lizzie told Bree after the night with Roger and later Bonnet: "You have my hand [Mama/ Mistress] and my ear if you need it." I felt like it showed how important Lizzie was in helping Bree get over what she experienced, and her desire to be that support for Claire. Also I thought the show they tacked on to the end of this episode was a very odd move by Starz. First off this show left me (and probably others) feeling a little raw and I just wanted to take a moment to digest what I just saw. Secondly, the themes of Hightown and Outlander are vastly different. It felt like something that should have been tacked onto Vida or maybe Power since those shows may have more of a cross over audience with it than Outlander. If it were a show like Black Sail or Spanish Princess I could see more audience cross over and would have been more OK with it after an Outlander episode... but not this one.
Andrea Morehouse, interesting comment! I was going to ask what else everyone was watching on Starz after Outlander. I watched Annie Hall.....boy, were Woody Allen 's sexual comments very telling of the man..... I hope Starz comes up with better shows.....
Also I have not posted thoughts anywhere cause I can't even form them and I watched twice now once at midnight and then is am as I was getting ready for work and still. Other then just totally understanding and agreeing with Sam had been say the press tour long and other times about this being the best season and finale, outside OG season 1 of course. Thats like my only coherent thoughts. I saw some of the Easter eggs. I watch several reviewer's and have read several posts and realized I missed some. I think it's interesting to see the show starting to explore the blood feuds that are a part of the Scottish culture. It definitely is a part of the Appalachian Scottish culture for generations and is interesting and sad to study as well. I learned of it from reading and watching christy by Catherine Marshall. The book is the true story of her mother who went into great smokes to Scottish community in 1910 to teach school. She deals with a community set in there way and set back in time where tradition and superstition governor life. But I will finish after all is said amazing amazing job best yet baring OG season 1.
Apart from the brewing storm, there is still also the menace from the burning of settlers and their homes that plays into the hope that comes at the ending that Clare might make it "intact" into the future and life at the Frazer's goes on. Ian's story is still waiting to be told. Catherine Sawkins, Australia
I only found your channel a week ago, so now I have to go back and start at the beginning. I had only read to partway through book 6, so knew this incident was coming, but that was all I remembered from it. I have watched a lot of reviews of this episode, and am surprised at the criticisms of it. I too thought it was a nearly perfect episode. That if the season did not come back, that it was a perfect ending. I do think it will be back, perhaps not all the books filmed, but we will get "more" I believe. I echo all your sentiments. Well, off to download discord! (I'm an older viewer and hadn't heard of it before)
I loved jaime reaction in this episode showed his love and grief over what happened roger was a big wimp telling Bri about killing a man I wish also the writers wrote the whole circumstances of why they make love
It was very responsible of Stars to display the warning and sexual assault hot line for survivors of sexual assault. Often, if not always, scenes of sexual assault will trigger a survivor and cause them to experience the trauma all over again. So its important to stress that prior to a program that displays violent sexual assault. Regarding Ian, in that time period, he would have been in the army and most likely on leave from Vietnam. Since he had been a warrior with the Mohawks, Claire sees him as a warrior in her disassociation also.
Yes, I totally agree about the warnings. I also like that they put up the RAINN call number, they haven't done that for previous assault scenes and I really thought it was a good idea to show the resources.
Well, WOW! WOW! & WOW!!...Gotta admit I felt all the same feelz as I did in the books during this. OMG, The anger at Lionel Brown and his hoarde. The "Yes"!! When Jamie and company came blasting in. Totally loved Ian..he was a freak'n beast! Anyway, Those rat bastards got what they deserved. Donner escaped tho...😏soooo, we'll be seeing him again. Still confused about Bree/Roger's Uturn..🙄total waste of time..but whatever. Claire's whole "disconnect" to the 70's Thanksgiving Dinner was pretty cool...Browns dirt bag mug pop'n up all the time. As far as I'm concerned this episode gets 👍👍...now gonna watch your replay😄
Well I saw it on Starz last night and it explained a lot about the way they film the episode. Hope you find the interview it was very interesting. Still love your enthusiasm.
So I figured out why I didn't see it. I watch the starz app on Amazon. Not on Starz itself. The Amazon Starz doesn't have a place to watch the special features outside of the episode. But ill watch it on their TH-cam Channel
The love scene is from book 6. And I wouldn't quite call it a love scene. They get very drunk and kind of fight their way through it. Its raw and harsh and full of love. I can see why they would want it to appear more gentle in the show.
Thanks for the great review. This episode was tragic yet so beautiful as well. The love Jamie has for Claire is every woman's dream. If what I hear is true that in a future book Claire thinks Jamie is dead and has to move on with her life, I will be just heart broken to see that depicted, the acting is so well done and I don't think I will want to see that scene.
Hey Karri! It was some of my favorite book content and I think they did it justice. Painful but good. The thing you are mentioned does happen for a long time. And she only thinks he is dead for about 1 month. It isn't so much about getting on with her life. I'll tell you everything if you want to know...
“Yeah Lionel, this was a good idea to piss off Colonel fucking Fraser who’s tight with the governed! That seems like a great idea.” Haha. Great review! I love how you express your emotions and passion for the books and the show and share from your heart, and I love the intelligence and wisdom you bring to these topics and stories ❤️ Thanks for reminding me of the symbolism, most of that went over my head! Do you think the abstract painting was of Fraser’s Ridge? It was so beautiful seeing Murtagh alive and well and with Jocasta (show version wise) and I loved Marsalli’s hair in the seventies, also interesting that Jamie was still wearing a 18th century shirt. Could you speak to the part of the inner sanctuary scenes where she finds out Bree and Roger were in a car accident? Is that because things got too horrific in her real experience that it invaded her sanctuary?
I was also thinking of you when they had Roger step up and into his nobility and character as a man. Between that and Bree and Roger not leaving, I thought you’d be happy with this episode! I also cried so much, both during Claire’s abduction and when the women were there to greet her when she got back. Thank you again for your commentary! It is therapy!
I do think the painting was of the burning house. Great images, very powerful. My thoughts on Bree and Roger not being there... maybe because she thinks them gone? I'm not sure I loved it so much. I wish every episode has this kind of care.
They did have the producers segment, you had to hit skip at the end before the credits ended, if you go back it is in the season 5 clips, also I’m thinking that The Breanna and roger not going back to the future is a way of explaining why others end up in different times when they go back. Galus ended up going back further then Claire even tho she went through the stones 20 years later. Otter tooth ended up in another time then Donner. So what you’re thinking has a lot to do with where you end up.
Maybe... they also don't include in the show some of the other proof. It is pretty much a done deal in the books who the father is. I don't even question it at this point.
i think maybe they will include the book proof next season. But considering Jemmy feel the stone heat a lot, with both traveler parents, his power is stronger
@@sahanaarani5954 i thinh Jemmy is really super sensitive to the stones vibes because later, he can feel where his sister is, or hearing her (like her) . Maybe because his 2 parents are travelers
I watched the episode on the app at midnight and it showed it as being 55 minutes and there was the producers interview at the end. Weird that that is not how it was for you.
OMG! 😍😍😍😁👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 So first of all, I thought of you so many times during this episode! I was like i hope this makes her happy! Lol everyone was so great in this episode. The acting was amazing. I was so happy that i was right that they didn't go anywhere, but kinda thought it was a waste of a storyline, but maybe it was to tell Ian? I also think that the fire will be a Brown induced situation. At first i thought it would be a way to fake their deaths so they don't have to fight in the war, but now maybe not? So in the series they haven't said what year the fire is but the book says Jan 1776 and we are in 1774. But the war is 78? Ok and side note, did you pick up that Donner and Otter Tooth went through in 1968? Same year Geillis went through! Does that mean they've been stuck in the past for over 20 yrs??? I'm assuming next season will be about Donner, the Gold, The Browns and the war? Thoughts?
They have been back for many years. They got separated and stuck there. It's kind of sad. I can understand why he would be crazy by this point. It was such a good episode, painful but very well done! Should be interesting.
I think they wanted to go to the future for safety for their kid but their hearts seek so it didn't go anywhere... also possible that their son is special and can choose where the stones take him as opposed to just going where the stones choose... he is born from two travellers
I know what they are trying to say with it. I just don't agree with it. They aren't this eager to leave. And to risk Jem for no reason.. Time travel is freaking dangerous. They do flip back in forth a bit in the book about leaving, but never to the point of making that very long journey just to turn right back around.
Have you ever read the Francis Crawford of Lymond books? The Lymond Chronicles by Dorothy Dunnett seem to me to be the next perfect set of books to adapt for fans of Outlander and maybe even GOT.
I've been worried about you waiting for this video after I heard the awful news of how outlander ended. I said to myself Jen will cry her eyes out today. Don't upset yourself, you read the books & you know that Dianna Gabildone will never let it end well for these two couples 😔😔😔
Is one good episode worth the damage done to the story? There are so many pieces of this story missing or derailed, that could have and should have been done, this may have been one of them, but there is so much they could have done, so much material with the quality of this, they should have used, and instead they made up and used inconsequential fluff derailing the story they should have been telling. It is hard for me to forgive them, considering the quality of actor they hired, the quality of the first two years, and the quality when the do get it right. We know they are capable of telling the intensity of action that is in the story, it makes me ache to know what they could have done, and did not, I find this very hard. The faint to send them home then not, infuriates me. What waste. What fakery. It so depresses me. Thank goodness, I have the books.
I missed you live🤬 but will watch replay a s.a.p.. I have such a love/hate relationship with this series 🤦♀️😄. I am so afraid they are going to end this on some crAzy cliffhanger and then there's going to be this Hella DroughtLander. Cause how long was Jamie squatting in the window sill? How long was Jemmy in the cave? 😏yeah, can ya feel me?
Not really bothered if they make season 6. There's no more time travelling. It's lost its magic. No more Scottish Highlands. We'll probably never know the real story about Jamie's ghost. And midget who played Stephen bonnet was huge disappointment. He didn't have the screen presence. No wonder they killed him off early. There's been few good moments in season 5. But I think overall it's lost its way. Jamie go back to Scotland. Then somehow travel through the stones with Claire to 1968. Watch the ratings go through the roof
Shit ending. I think they've lost track of what made outlander great. It was time travel. It was beautiful Scottish Highlands. Would have been amazing if Jamie somehow time travelled to the Future. The ending was pathetic. I'm really disappointed.
ooof, I see what you mean, that's just not how the story goes though. There is more time travel and mystery that happens, but its all gotten a bit off track. I do understand your feelings though.
I agree with you and Diana. When I was young I was assaulted. My mother's bishop told me that if I didn't die in the assault then I hadn't fought hard enough. Even as young as I was that created a hate in me. I told him that if he considered my only worth and honor was centered in what was between my legs, then I didn't want his honor. I didn't want to be seen as worthy to him and his kind. If they preferred me dead rather alive and abused, then I didn't prefer their consideration. I am worth more than just my vagina.
Wow... that is incredible. Nicely put.
Blue I am so sorry that you had to endure that. You are most definitely worth more. Your strength is such an inspiration.
Bishops like him ruin our faith. 😞
My one regret is that I would have loved to hear Roger’s drums, and the highlanders yelling.
This was a beautiful, intense, heartbreaking episode. I just adored it. Because it felt like Outlander, and the book really came alive.
I full on cried when Bree said to Claire the same thing Lizzie said to her.
Just give Sam and Cait all the awards. Claire’s “shattered speech” and Jamie’s “kill them all.” Chills.
Thank you for your review- I agree wholeheartedly. The episode was intense and heartbreaking but so wonderfully acted. The use of the alternate universe was brilliant. I was literally shaking watching the scenes...Sam and Cat both deserve best actor awards for this season. Slàinte!
Totally cool with Marsali doing the deed! You go girl!
I haven't read book 6 yet I can see Mrs. Bug could do it too..but somewhat really loved that Marsali did it..she is such a bad ass character, love her!
When she was doing it, I literally said, "Go Marsali!"
Marsali is such a badass
The only thing missing from the rescue scene that would have made it perfect was the battle drums. I wanted to hear that.
Amy Angell That was my thought when I finished but someone pointed out to me that the drums were brought in in the very beginning when they are recapping the last episode. That drumbeat between the scenes.
I may or may not have mouthed “kill them all” along with Jamie.
OH MY GOSH SAME✋😅
Me too!
Great comments ! I was SO happy to hear Sam/Jamie speak so much in this episode !
I thought the time traveler wanting to get out of this era was pretty informative!
Every character was stellar in the episode!
This episode has been mind-blowing for me. Phenomenal performances by all the actors, especially Cait and Sam. I was actually cheering when Jamie said: "Kill them all;" and Marsali killed Lionel. But, I was over the moon, when they included my favourite Jamie line: "When the day shall come, that we do part, if my last words are not I love you - ye'll ken it was because I didna have time." Love all your reviews, looking forward to your Outlander content during Droughtlander. Take care.
I think this whole season had precious and powerful moments. At the end of season 4, I was doubtful there would be a future for the series, in spite of the amazing finale. This season for me, for beyond the citations and the events themselves, in different occasions was able to encapsulate the spirit of the books and its characters. Above all, Jamie Fraser came back in all his glory (even with that horrible wig during Claire's "dream"!). In this finale they even showed some skin, for heaven's sake, it was so beautiful to see Claire naked with all those bruises...
Anyway, the quote from Jamie voiceover comes from The Fiery Cross very first page. Many cuddles to Sam to be able to say the things he says and never sound ridiculously cheesy.
Yes. His voice over was amazing. James Fraser is still King of Men in my heart.
I agree that having the MacKenzies try to travel early was a cheap trick. They should have included the discussion between Roger and Jamie about "knowing if the child is yours." I think that would have given the ending so much more punch, but was effectively filmed. Thanks for a very thoughtful review.
Great review Jenn! I thought the episode was really well done! A lot of care went into the making of the episode. I loved how they did the 60's home as Claire's mental refuge. I really didn't want to see all the gory details. So I'm happy they did it this way. Whoever did the makeup did an excellent job! My heart was breaking just seeing all the bruises and damage done to Claire. And the acting was so definitely Emmy worthy! What a powerful episode! I was totally hooked from the first minute to the last! I even had my tissues next to me this time! And I was saying, Kill them all, along with Jamie! I also cheered Marsali for giving Lionel the death shot of water hemlock! She's really been a wonderful character.
I got it right on the round trip ticket through the stones. All the crying I did last week for nothing! Powerful episode!
I've really enjoyed this season. I think having Sam and Caitriona as co-producers has made the show a lot better.
Thank you so much! I'm glad I found your channel! I'll be here watching your droughtlander material. In the meantime, I'll probably do a re-read of the entire series.
Have a great week! 😊
While watching the finale I was thinking the exact same thing you said in the beginning.."They can make this, why did they not do this all along!" This quality in direction and creativity, the dialogues.. was all amazing...loved every minute of it. Caitriona and Sam were so so good I was crying the entire time.
Sahana Arani I think they(Producers fixate on certain big, quote “book moments” they want to go for and feel if they put them into the season they are good. When in fact what fans want is strong, consistent storytelling accross the board. In season one and to some degree season two, that is what they did. The mold is not broken, they don’t need to fix it but rather follow it!
@@karolnicks-suber3814 So well said!! Totally agree..Season 1, 2 and even 3 were really amazing to me and I think season 2 is my favorite! Did you enjoy the finale? What did you like/dislike about it? :)
Sahana Arani Pretty much a perfect episode!🏅
Sahana Arani Lets Star with Caitriona’s performance, what an amazing actor she is. She embodies the character in a manner that is nothing short of masterful. Next, the stunning 60’s dream escape sequences. I saw where some thought they were overdone, I couldn’t disagree more. I think it was Matt Roberts Idea and it was a stroke of genius. I’m often critical of Matt’s show running buts it’s only because I want him to do better. I also loved Marsali avenging Claire and protecting her family by ushering the vile Lionel Brown our of this world and hopefully to hell!.
What I didn’t like was the choice to show the men lining up to rape Claire. That didn’t happen in the book and it wasn’t needed here. It felt gratuitous. I also felt at an episode time of 50 minutes, they took 10 minutes from us which could have been used to give the episode a little more time to breath. But all that said, I would give it 5 out of 5 stars. Episode 512 is Outstanding Television. Caitriona Balfe is not human.
Your reviews of Outlander are the best on youtube. You show the emotions we all feel about these books and attachments to these characters whether in the book or on the series. I do watch other reviews and they just don't get it. They refer to the books without remembering even close to what actually happens. We all know these are book characters but it doesn't change the feelings these characters instill in each of us. We love them all and want the series to stay true to that narrative. Adding, subtracting scenes and plots go for it just don't damage their heart.
Your review was great -- thorough and spot on. The only thing I can add is that I was also moved by the performances of Ian and Fergus. When they all came for the rescue, Jamie wielded his sword and reminded us of Prestonpans; Ian was the quintessential Mohawk warrior; and Fergus, even one-handed was slashing with a vengeance. I will never forget their facial expressions when they saw Claire's beaten and bruised body and the tears in Jamie's eyes. When Myers offered her his knife to wreak her vengeance and Ian and Fergus replied that they will kill for her too -- I was overcome. Ian and Fergus did an excellent job of showing their shock and distress and their love and devotion to Claire.
Wow wow wow that was intense, raw, emotional experience watching this episode. Man I'm blown away by these actors OMG!!!! I had such an emotional reaction. At the end when Jamie his holding her and she says "safe" that tugs at my heartstrings. I don't have words. Just amazement
I lo0o0ove your recap because it touched my heart and told the emotions I had when I watched but couldn't express..
And that's why I liked your video and subscribed to your channel coz I know that I'll enjoy watching more of your videos specifically during the drought lander..
The episode was so perfect like you said but inspite Claire is so brave, I felt that we needed more of Jamie supporting her through that rough time..
Thank you so much Salma! It was painful but poignant.
@@TheBookRefuge totally agree..
I read all outlander books and watch all tv shows. Thanks for all that you do. I agree with you that they chose to do outlander as a tv show instead of a movie. It’s longer and more detail. But I see your point not all is like the book. I did cry too. Keep drinking. You are adorable. Thanks for your videos
I got a feeling that the brother of Lionel might set that fire in the big house that is just me.but great season this year loved it.
you did well! hardly any crying. my notes pretty much agree with your thoughts. something from last week i may have already said, would a man like lionel brown let his wife say no? anyway...
claire's "fortress of solitude" was so well done. the show people did good. all the imagery. was that a painting of the big house on fire? the leaky roof. I remember jamie going up in the middle of the night maybe to fix a leak, but i'm not sure that was the reference. jamie's clothes weren't modern like marsali and everybody else. (it would be strange to see jamie in a 3 piece.) I loved hearing "just the two of us now."
it seemed like a waste of time to have the mackenzie's not go thru. this episode was so good, i'll just not pick on that.
this was one of my favorite parts of the books. I think what's wrong with me liking something so awful. now I know i'm not the only one. "kill them all." I remember getting shivers the first time I read that line.
I need to take a break. I thought I had more to say. I may get back to you later. thanks for doing this.
That's why she had the broken wrist - because she said no,
I thought the point of them not going forward in time might have been for them both to realize that they really did want to stay with the family, deep down, so they wouldn't have any doubts and accept their decision?
Marsali calling Claire her "Ma" as she killed Brown just got me. ❤
Thank you very much Jenn for giving us great Outlander contents! Looking forward for more of your passionate takes!
Thank you! I have some pretty fun videos planned I can't wait!
That's fantastic!Same here!
Short hair Jamie surprised me and all the little bits of throwback in her disassociation was a perfect way to play it. The psych out with Roger/Bree/Jem was a cheap shot but it was a quicker way to give them a moment of drama and didn't take away to much time for more important plot. The size of my grin when Jamie said "kill them all" OOOOOOO so happy with a tinge of short lived guilt. Things happening to you is different from things being done too you. Marsali is season 5 MVP! I believe the voice over is the prologue of TFC? Ending on safe was *chefs kiss*. I hope all this extra time gives the writers time to really refine season 6 and make it strong.
love your commentary on the show. It's like chatting with a gf about it, and no one else i know is interested in the show, so this is really nice. Thank you for speaking so passionately about it
Thank you so much! It is something I just can't help but do and thankfully everyone has been very supportive overall
Hey! I made blackberry whisky for myself last Christmas, and that's my sip of choice now! How about that? Splendid review, except that Amazon didn't include the warning we should all have had. I have to watch the episode again and re read the Chapter in 'Breath of Snow and Ashes'. They couldn't have had Murdina Bug kill Lionel Brown, because so far they've not mentioned the French Gold at all, insofar that it involves Jocasta, beyond her grief at her daughter's death. But Marsali was the obvious choice and portrayed it brilliantly. I'm still needing time and space to recover! Thank you for the review, and I may well go back and watch your previous Outlander reviews (if possible).
You said how people love these violent crisis episodes the best, and that the show does them the best. I think this show does every kind of episode wonderfully!! And I don't think we love them the best because of their subject matter. I think they stick with us and we never forget them because they are so shocking and traumatic. It's not that we love them, they just affect our psyche so much.
Even the wall tapestry from their Lallybroch bedroom is included in the 70th scenes.
Sorry if it’s already been said but I did get the producers talk at the end of the episode and there was no sneak peak of that other show. I know several people didn’t get to see it. Its probably floating around youtube now if u really want to see it.
Yeah, it was not the same for everyone. Seems like quite a few of us had it different. But its all good. I'll see it eventually
Just found your recaps and love them! One teensy thing that I'd love -- if you looked at the camera when you record? It's the only thing that would make you even more awesome!
So... I'm new to your channel but I love that you are reviewing both the book and the show together. I, of course, am very literal with the book and it disappoints me so much when the show takes such liberties. To me this should be the easiest show in the world to act, direct, and film, because basically you just open up page one and star. The dialogue is all written there for you, the action scenes are all there for you... Anyways...
My criticism of this episode is because of the reasoning behind why the Brown's did what they did to Claire and also the whole scene from Jamie getting his vengeance or or the whole vengeance scene against the Brown's. I too believe that the Dr Rawlings story is just not plausible enough for people to go to war about, or to pick a fight with a family on the ridge. If they had stuck with the fact that this was a personal attack on Jamie himself for not joining their marauding policing of the area, they could have sold this better. And also I really really missed Roger playing the bodrum. In the book you could just see the men sitting around the fire laughing, and gloating, and carrying on... then you hear drums... And they're getting closer... And you can't see anything, it's total darkness out there... And then the assassins fly out of the trees and start killing everybody. That's what needed to be done in the show. I didn't feel that Highlander rage and savagery.
And I felt like the whole Bree and Roger - last episode saying goodbye wasted opportune minutes for screen time for something else, and then they cheat us by not going back (although they didn't go back at this point), I just feel like we lost so much story that could have been there... Again, open the book and just film from the book.
But I was glad that we were able to get some really great moments. But yeah... I mean they just should have stuck with the whole reason behind why the Brown's were after Jamie to begin with.
I agree! The Whiskey was already introduced and mentioned and the Browns new about it. It would be extremely bold for them to charge into Claire's surgery to take her from the Ridge, rather than having her be away from the house.
The police officer who gave Claire the bad news about Roger and Brianna in her fortress of solitude was Lionel Brown, could it possibly be that even in her fortress of solitude the badness she's experiencing is creeping into her mind. Also I recognised Isaiah (the actor) in the line of the six men who harmed her being killed by Ian or maybe I'm hallucinating, it's not unusual to use the same actors for multiple roles.
Oh absolutely. They have the Browns slowly invading her Fortress of Solitude.
I was brutally raped & sodomized at age 12. This was by far the hardest thing I ever watched. It was raw & real. Cristina B managed to show how rape cuts a person soul into peices that can only be healed with time and love.
Took me years to get over PTSD and years of fighting the family of the man who destroyed my childhood.
If this episode does anything I hope it shows men how strong we women really are. You can destroy our flesh but you cannot destroy out hearts.
What do you think the show will put in season 6 from the book?
While like you I have a lot of critics on this season as a whole I thought this episode was was done really well, and is a good episode to leave off on (especially because this is probably going to be the biggest droughtlander we've ever had). I really appreciated the book parts and the nods to prior seasons and episodes. In addition to the nods you mentioned I thought it was really sweet that Bree told Claire exactly what Lizzie told Bree after the night with Roger and later Bonnet: "You have my hand [Mama/ Mistress] and my ear if you need it." I felt like it showed how important Lizzie was in helping Bree get over what she experienced, and her desire to be that support for Claire.
Also I thought the show they tacked on to the end of this episode was a very odd move by Starz. First off this show left me (and probably others) feeling a little raw and I just wanted to take a moment to digest what I just saw. Secondly, the themes of Hightown and Outlander are vastly different. It felt like something that should have been tacked onto Vida or maybe Power since those shows may have more of a cross over audience with it than Outlander. If it were a show like Black Sail or Spanish Princess I could see more audience cross over and would have been more OK with it after an Outlander episode... but not this one.
Andrea Morehouse, interesting comment! I was going to ask what else everyone was watching on Starz after Outlander.
I watched Annie Hall.....boy, were Woody Allen 's sexual comments very telling of the man.....
I hope Starz comes up with better shows.....
Thank you so much for this.
Also I have not posted thoughts anywhere cause I can't even form them and I watched twice now once at midnight and then is am as I was getting ready for work and still. Other then just totally understanding and agreeing with Sam had been say the press tour long and other times about this being the best season and finale, outside OG season 1 of course.
Thats like my only coherent thoughts. I saw some of the Easter eggs. I watch several reviewer's and have read several posts and realized I missed some. I think it's interesting to see the show starting to explore the blood feuds that are a part of the Scottish culture. It definitely is a part of the Appalachian Scottish culture for generations and is interesting and sad to study as well. I learned of it from reading and watching christy by Catherine Marshall. The book is the true story of her mother who went into great smokes to Scottish community in 1910 to teach school. She deals with a community set in there way and set back in time where tradition and superstition governor life. But I will finish after all is said amazing amazing job best yet baring OG season 1.
What is OG season 1 please.
Barbara, OG is something you can say to mean Original. Knitting Queen is saying that the Original Season One is the best.
The writers did do a summary when I watched. It was short but they did it.
I watch on the Amazon Prime Starz app, it wasn't on mine. :) but it was on Starz proper, on their app.
Apart from the brewing storm, there is still also the menace from the burning of settlers and their homes that plays into the hope that comes at the ending that Clare might make it "intact" into the future and life at the Frazer's goes on. Ian's story is still waiting to be told. Catherine Sawkins, Australia
This is the first time I have watched one of your reviews. Very well done. I think Claire's solitude of fortress was in the 60's.
I only found your channel a week ago, so now I have to go back and start at the beginning. I had only read to partway through book 6, so knew this incident was coming, but that was all I remembered from it. I have watched a lot of reviews of this episode, and am surprised at the criticisms of it. I too thought it was a nearly perfect episode. That if the season did not come back, that it was a perfect ending. I do think it will be back, perhaps not all the books filmed, but we will get "more" I believe. I echo all your sentiments. Well, off to download discord! (I'm an older viewer and hadn't heard of it before)
Yes, will love to have you on Discord! We are already having great discussions!
I loved jaime reaction in this episode showed his love and grief over what happened roger was a big wimp telling Bri about killing a man I wish also the writers wrote the whole circumstances of why they make love
And I did really miss the drums!!!! Ian was AMAZING!!!!
Ian was so great, I loved it when he threw that hatchet into the guy, and the way he painted his face, and was so strong and supportive of his family
It was very responsible of Stars to display the warning and sexual assault hot line for survivors of sexual assault. Often, if not always, scenes of sexual assault will trigger a survivor and cause them to experience the trauma all over again. So its important to stress that prior to a program that displays violent sexual assault.
Regarding Ian, in that time period, he would have been in the army and most likely on leave from Vietnam. Since he had been a warrior with the Mohawks, Claire sees him as a warrior in her disassociation also.
Yes, I totally agree about the warnings. I also like that they put up the RAINN call number, they haven't done that for previous assault scenes and I really thought it was a good idea to show the resources.
Well, WOW! WOW! & WOW!!...Gotta admit I felt all the same feelz as I did in the books during this. OMG, The anger at Lionel Brown and his hoarde. The "Yes"!! When Jamie and company came blasting in. Totally loved Ian..he was a freak'n beast! Anyway, Those rat bastards got what they deserved. Donner escaped tho...😏soooo, we'll be seeing him again. Still confused about Bree/Roger's Uturn..🙄total waste of time..but whatever. Claire's whole "disconnect" to the 70's Thanksgiving Dinner was pretty cool...Browns dirt bag mug pop'n up all the time. As far as I'm concerned this episode gets 👍👍...now gonna watch your replay😄
Well I saw it on Starz last night and it explained a lot about the way they film the episode. Hope you find the interview it was very interesting.
Still love your enthusiasm.
So I figured out why I didn't see it. I watch the starz app on Amazon. Not on Starz itself. The Amazon Starz doesn't have a place to watch the special features outside of the episode. But ill watch it on their TH-cam Channel
I watch the Starz excuses also. They are only excuses.
Which book are you referring too? Is the last love scene from the Fiery Cross? Where in the book? Where in the book does Claire get kidnapped?
The love scene is from book 6. And I wouldn't quite call it a love scene. They get very drunk and kind of fight their way through it. Its raw and harsh and full of love. I can see why they would want it to appear more gentle in the show.
I enjoyed your review of the 12th episode. I notice the two Outlander books in the background. I would like to know the author of the books.
Thank you! actually those are just the Collector editions of Season 3 and 4 of the show. :)
@@TheBookRefuge Thank you. I had never seen those covers.
Thanks for the great review. This episode was tragic yet so beautiful as well. The love Jamie has for Claire is every woman's dream. If what I hear is true that in a future book Claire thinks Jamie is dead and has to move on with her life, I will be just heart broken to see that depicted, the acting is so well done and I don't think I will want to see that scene.
Hey Karri! It was some of my favorite book content and I think they did it justice. Painful but good.
The thing you are mentioned does happen for a long time. And she only thinks he is dead for about 1 month. It isn't so much about getting on with her life. I'll tell you everything if you want to know...
Yes...lets hear it. Thanks.
“Yeah Lionel, this was a good idea to piss off Colonel fucking Fraser who’s tight with the governed! That seems like a great idea.” Haha. Great review! I love how you express your emotions and passion for the books and the show and share from your heart, and I love the intelligence and wisdom you bring to these topics and stories ❤️ Thanks for reminding me of the symbolism, most of that went over my head! Do you think the abstract painting was of Fraser’s Ridge? It was so beautiful seeing Murtagh alive and well and with Jocasta (show version wise) and I loved Marsalli’s hair in the seventies, also interesting that Jamie was still wearing a 18th century shirt. Could you speak to the part of the inner sanctuary scenes where she finds out Bree and Roger were in a car accident? Is that because things got too horrific in her real experience that it invaded her sanctuary?
I was also thinking of you when they had Roger step up and into his nobility and character as a man. Between that and Bree and Roger not leaving, I thought you’d be happy with this episode! I also cried so much, both during Claire’s abduction and when the women were there to greet her when she got back. Thank you again for your commentary! It is therapy!
I do think the painting was of the burning house. Great images, very powerful.
My thoughts on Bree and Roger not being there... maybe because she thinks them gone? I'm not sure
I loved it so much. I wish every episode has this kind of care.
They did have the producers segment, you had to hit skip at the end before the credits ended, if you go back it is in the season 5 clips, also I’m thinking that The Breanna and roger not going back to the future is a way of explaining why others end up in different times when they go back. Galus ended up going back further then Claire even tho she went through the stones 20 years later. Otter tooth ended up in another time then Donner. So what you’re thinking has a lot to do with where you end up.
I don't have the Starz app. But I watched it on Insta!
Just wanted you to know that there was a Inside the World for episode 512 right after the credits. Love your reviews.
Hmm. It wasn't in mine. I went back three times to check. I'll look it up online on Starz later.
Nope. Went right to that new show
@@TheBookRefuge Was on our viewing as well
It was on the cable/satellite airing Sunday night.
I have seen it at this point. Very good info.
Great review! Speaking of Jemmy being surely the son of Roger : Brianna has only one traveller parent. So could be Jemmy
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Maybe... they also don't include in the show some of the other proof. It is pretty much a done deal in the books who the father is. I don't even question it at this point.
i think maybe they will include the book proof next season. But considering Jemmy feel the stone heat a lot, with both traveler parents, his power is stronger
@@bessonnet this got me wondering..when Claire wore it around her neck last season, did she not feel it's unnatural warmth?
@@sahanaarani5954 i thinh Jemmy is really super sensitive to the stones vibes because later, he can feel where his sister is, or hearing her (like her) . Maybe because his 2 parents are travelers
@@bessonnet makes sense! 😃
I watched the episode on the app at midnight and it showed it as being 55 minutes and there was the producers interview at the end. Weird that that is not how it was for you.
Yeah, my app had a promo episode of Hightown tacked onto the end of it. And no commentary. Its honestly fine with me. They always bug me anyway.
i wish i'd found you sooner! i have a lot to say...
Well, You can say it now!!! I am always here for therapy!
OMG! 😍😍😍😁👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 So first of all, I thought of you so many times during this episode! I was like i hope this makes her happy! Lol everyone was so great in this episode. The acting was amazing. I was so happy that i was right that they didn't go anywhere, but kinda thought it was a waste of a storyline, but maybe it was to tell Ian? I also think that the fire will be a Brown induced situation. At first i thought it would be a way to fake their deaths so they don't have to fight in the war, but now maybe not? So in the series they haven't said what year the fire is but the book says Jan 1776 and we are in 1774. But the war is 78? Ok and side note, did you pick up that Donner and Otter Tooth went through in 1968? Same year Geillis went through! Does that mean they've been stuck in the past for over 20 yrs??? I'm assuming next season will be about Donner, the Gold, The Browns and the war? Thoughts?
Oh and favorite scene was Marsali killing Lionel 😍
They have been back for many years. They got separated and stuck there. It's kind of sad. I can understand why he would be crazy by this point.
It was such a good episode, painful but very well done! Should be interesting.
I think they wanted to go to the future for safety for their kid but their hearts seek so it didn't go anywhere... also possible that their son is special and can choose where the stones take him as opposed to just going where the stones choose... he is born from two travellers
I know what they are trying to say with it. I just don't agree with it. They aren't this eager to leave. And to risk Jem for no reason.. Time travel is freaking dangerous. They do flip back in forth a bit in the book about leaving, but never to the point of making that very long journey just to turn right back around.
Have you ever read the Francis Crawford of Lymond books? The Lymond Chronicles by Dorothy Dunnett seem to me to be the next perfect set of books to adapt for fans of Outlander and maybe even GOT.
Really missed the scene when Jaimie takes Claire to the river to cleanse her.
There was a lot missing. I wish this episode had been longer.
Mostly due to the temperature of the Scottish waters while filming I suppose.
😍😍 love your comments
STARZ released the behind the scenes with the producers for episode 12 today.
I've been worried about you waiting for this video after I heard the awful news of how outlander ended. I said to myself Jen will cry her eyes out today. Don't upset yourself, you read the books & you know that Dianna Gabildone will never let it end well for these two couples 😔😔😔
I actually don't think it ended that badly. It was a good episode.
@@TheBookRefuge I can't believe you just said that 😉
Haha! wait until you see my recap.. All will be reveled..
Is one good episode worth the damage done to the story? There are so many pieces of this story missing or derailed, that could have and should have been done, this may have been one of them, but there is so much they could have done, so much material with the quality of this, they should have used, and instead they made up and used inconsequential fluff derailing the story they should have been telling. It is hard for me to forgive them, considering the quality of actor they hired, the quality of the first two years, and the quality when the do get it right. We know they are capable of telling the intensity of action that is in the story, it makes me ache to know what they could have done, and did not, I find this very hard. The faint to send them home then not, infuriates me. What waste. What fakery. It so depresses me. Thank goodness, I have the books.
I missed you live🤬 but will watch replay a s.a.p.. I have such a love/hate relationship with this series 🤦♀️😄. I am so afraid they are going to end this on some crAzy cliffhanger and then there's going to be this Hella DroughtLander. Cause how long was Jamie squatting in the window sill? How long was Jemmy in the cave? 😏yeah, can ya feel me?
Sorry, I did it a bit earlier than normal. Haha!
@@TheBookRefuge 😃oh no worries. It all works in the end. One of these days I'll have time to watch the earlier showing. Weekends are real😏😄
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Not really bothered if they make season 6. There's no more time travelling. It's lost its magic. No more Scottish Highlands. We'll probably never know the real story about Jamie's ghost. And midget who played Stephen bonnet was huge disappointment. He didn't have the screen presence. No wonder they killed him off early. There's been few good moments in season 5. But I think overall it's lost its way. Jamie go back to Scotland. Then somehow travel through the stones with Claire to 1968. Watch the ratings go through the roof
Shit ending. I think they've lost track of what made outlander great. It was time travel. It was beautiful Scottish Highlands. Would have been amazing if Jamie somehow time travelled to the Future. The ending was pathetic. I'm really disappointed.
ooof, I see what you mean, that's just not how the story goes though. There is more time travel and mystery that happens, but its all gotten a bit off track. I do understand your feelings though.
This is the story Diana Gabaldon wrote. Like it or not.