If you cancel student loan debt you have to cancel the debt for the single mothers that decided not to do go to college and racked up credit card debt. Shit at that point you might as well cancel all debt it would be the only fair way. Realistically it’s just a terrible idea to cancel debt, take responsibility for yourself.
@Fuck Google I agree that college is Overrated, currently skill acquisition is more important than a degree. I also agree the "our jobs are being taken" is silly, as someone I can't remember said roughly "If an immigrant who barely speaks english can come across the country and steal your job, You need to do a better job.". And as someone with similar situation, no degree working as a surgical instrument tech, I can see alot of people who are stuck with debt are with it because they couldn't shake their parents and peers beliefs that college is everything, because it was for them. Fact is based on the info I've been able to find most people don't discharge their debt until age 50, and having that on someone who still can't legally drink just seems harsh. Sure, we could leave them to drown, but the world is no longer a zero-sum game, and every person who is able to support themselves comfortably, is another person who is able to advocate for things that we find important.
There absolutely are tons of jobs that pay that well. The thing is that those positions require you to be good at something or certified in something. There's welding positions open for 40k and over and they simply require a welding test, welding is a skill that people can learn at home. No one is going to just be handed a good paying job, you have to be good at something, welcome to America.
@Fuck Google welding, most technical jobs like vehicle repairs. Since the IT Field is going to be highly competitive jobs like these might net you a decent salary. Plus they aren't that expensive to learn.
first thing that comes to mind is how apple and big tech companies constantly lobby and bribe politicians against the right to repair movement when it is pretty much universally wanted by the average person.
Some things Destiny says has logic behind them but I don't know why anyone would ever try to argue with him because he'll just be like "That's just not true!" about whatever you say if you're not agreeing with him.
@@kianbarrett1042 I remember my time as an AP high school student. I listened to all of my sources and accepted all of my claims. Hearing somebody confident in their word and enthusiastic about what they say is dangerous. Now that I am years removed from the collegiate system, I’ve learned to think for myself. His fans will likely take his word for gospel: that’s what scares me, even as a Democrat, as he is so wrong about many things he “knows” about.
@@GamerSlayer5000 yes, 30k in dept with a skillset that will land you more high job opportunities that will make you way more then 30k then someone with out a degree
@@020finnnn first of all there is 0 guarantee you'll actually find work in your field, second of all if there's a 30k cost of entry to learn a good trade than it kinda discourages poor people from doing it. How are people supposed to pull themselves up by their bootstraps if the only jobs they're qualified for are shitty retail jobs that don't pay anything and take up all your time leaving you with 0 way to learn an actual trade. If you honestly think that education isn't insanely overpriced than you're either spoiled, too young to attend school yet, or dumb
@@GamerSlayer5000 if you take a direction with low job opportunities, that’s called you being dumb. I don’t go put all my money on blackjack on number 13 and complain when I don’t make money. The only solution is stopping the federal goverment from being in the student loan business and privatizing it. But this will add a few problems first. A cheaper college tuition means less valuable diploma, and make the high skilled teachers not teach. Why would you teach for a bunch of students when you are specialized in something and can make more practicing that instead of teaching? So quality would drop. If you think so simply of such a complex issue and call people with a other opinion dumb shows how simple your thoughts are.
@@GamerSlayer5000 Education is overpriced but a lot of those high costs are due to the government giving loans instead of funding public universities like they used to up until the late 70's when they switched and took over loans. Our schools in the US are also far more costly in size and style than those that are built in places like Europe and also kids in the US most of the time choose to go to a state school and take out loans to live in dorms or choose to go out of state. The reality is, if you pick a good degree, a 30k investment while overpriced is still a good investment and most who go to college see a good rate of return on this investment.
if u forgive college debt. then u need to make college free for everyone forever.... if not, then its not fair, future generations will be pissed and want reparation.
The people complaining about their student debt are the liberal arts graduates instead of cancelling their debt a liberal arts degree just shouldn’t be a thing unless you are going into education.
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@@brycearchambault6260 America has money to send to Israel, Africa, etc..., has money to fund the UN, has money to expend on MOABs but suddently when we're talking about healthcare and education, they bail the fuck out and still allow banks to bend us over? Remember when the banks crashed the world economy through fraud and most countries bailed them? yet we dont have money for healthcare and education. The real problem of America is not money, but corruption, and once we deal with that problem, all that's left are the traitors that got us in this shit.
@@brycearchambault6260 with stagnant wages and inept labor unions the worker class has not been given any support since the implementation of public school almost a century ago. Educating our population would result in overall higher wages and income, which would result in more tax revenue for the government anyway. There seems to always be money for the airlines or the sand people on the other side of the planet but never for the broke American citizens. Our own brothers and sisters who just need help for a few years of higher education to fulfill their American dream.
Because they decide taking out a life-changing loan to go to private liberal arts school to party, live the "college experience" and get mediocre grades makes sense.
@@KALSKingdom most people don’t want to take college seriously and want to party. Most people don’t try to take college classes in highschool, they don’t want to go to a community college. I disagree with the thinking that college is always 100% bad, but as woody said, your employment is more secure, safer and all that. It’s a lot easier and safer to get to where you want to be. You can become a welder and put in work and make like $150 an hour, toy are working a backbreaking job and it takes work to get to that point. Some people are not the type of become welders, or plumbers. Some people want to become welders and plumbers and that is their dream job and they are happy with it. I also think a lot of people were forced to live a non luxurious lifestyle in college and indulge too much when they start making all that money. Granted I am a 17yo kid, but my plan would be to treat my self a bit but otherwise live on the bare minimum putting all I could into the loan debt.
@@jagerfromgsg945 Youve got good thinking at the end and and are reasonable, but i think you should wait to have your own possible experience with college or if not then wait until youre fully settled into your adult employment before you make a final judgement call on college/university costs and why theyre happening and whats worth more.
Is that what you took? It seems to me that college is a good investment. A more highly educated and earning population provides more cash flow in to the economy.
It's paid for through a Wall Street speculation tax. It seems everyone against it wants to pretend the middle class would be paying for it. I didn't even go to college so I don't have any skin in the game, but the arguments against it are mostly dishonest.
I sold my first house back in October and decided to be responsible and pay off the remaining $9K of my student loans. I can’t even describe how furious I would be if $10K got wiped out from everyone else
@@wallywashtits1574 it’s not wishing anyone hardship, considering loans are something people get themselves into knowing that they need to be paid back. I’m all for pushing back the payments, but wiping out debt is a slap in the face for everyone else that paid theirs
there are tons of jobs for people with no college degree that pay very well.... the 30k avg salary number destiny quoted seems very low because that factors in all people who are entry level, people who are low motivation, people who are just losers, people who work a side job while being a mother, people with handicaps and disabilities, retirees who choose to stay working a simple job like "greeter" or "toll booth worker" who might actually be very well off or prior military 20 years service and just so happed to only have went to high school.... it groups all those in with people who are semi successful in trades or trucking or running heavy equipment even small business owners. You dont need a degree unless you are targeting a field where one is required.
Pretty much every trade after you get you're journeyman card will pay around 50k and that's just someone like a painter. If you're an electrician or plumber you could be making $30-$40 an hour plus overtime because those are trades that need people to work. All trades need people, the average construction worker is in his mid 50's. I feel like trades and union jobs aren't pushed enough, People always talk about college but college just isn't it for some people.
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@@MeloenTube if you work hard enough and are lucky enough plenty of schools and people would fight to pay for your college (my destiny wannabe know it all impression btw)
For real , canceling student debt is gonna happen by taxing people who make millions in a day or more , anyone making 79000 and below will pay 0$ towards things like that and Healthcare if that comes to fruition as well
Idk about cancelling them, but someone does need to bust up these universities. College should never be the cost of a fucking new car every year, especially when we then also have to endure professors & teachers whine about how little they make
They government should just regulate interest rates. I don't mind paying the $35k. It's the interest rate that is killing me. I pay and pay and get nowhere. It is not like buying a car that's paid off in a few years.
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I’m in school, paying for myself and acquiring a decent bit of debt, but ffs i took the risk, I signed the contract. That’s why I work 😂 I don’t get how people can be so entitled Always funny having this conversation with my peers Now if a conversation about loaning shit loads of money to kids were to be had, that’d be cool, seems predatory to me
A lot of college students made bad decisions on what to major in and now have a 80,000 piece of worthless paper. English degree? Art degree? Good luck paying that off
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See that's why I'm so 50/50 about the concentration camps in China; yeah it's really horrible, but... they their religion kind of brought upon themselves.
I think what people hate about collage is that you pay money to work hard to get a degree for a hard working job to pay back student loans which is hard. Result people crying about education
I hadn't thought of the idea that in the US it's essentially a gift to the middle and upper class. I wonder how they'd feel about paying for the education of those with low socio-economic backgrounds?
PSA on PKA. The people talking in this clip are just as qualified to talk about this as I am qualified to talk about making TH-cam videos. Btw I suck at making videos.
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The thing about politicians being bought and paid for is kind of true but he leaves out the fact that corporations instead of bribing people will finance them. It's much easier for a large Business entity to give financial support to a politician who is going to institute changes that will benefit them then instead of bribing who ever is in office currently.
As long as you majored in something like Computer Science you can pay that back in less time than it took you to rack up the bill. Programmers here in the Midwest make $80,000 starting with optional bonuses that go as high as an extra $15,000-$20,000. Moral of the story, don't sign up for college if you haven't looked at the pay back period on the degree you want to get.
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Based on Destiny's comments, I'm trying to figure out which Americans wanted their representatives to send more money out of the country in a COVID relief bill than to Americans?
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I think that they hit the mark on a lot of things. But they’re way off target on this topic. My sister is way in debt because of student loans, (we’re relatively poor) and why should she be screwed for trying to rise above her current wage class.
@@nickkings2220 I’m not saying that completely eliminating that debt is the answer, it’s gonna have to be more nuanced than that. Maybe on a case by case basis or people who’s family’s earn under a certain threshold.
That’s unfortunate, but people still shouldn’t have to pick up her slack. She’s took out the loans, not anyone else. People have to be accountable, and not everyone should just be guaranteed loans because it fucked the tuition market (see GI Bill). I have sympathy for her, but she should pay them back herself, she took them out.
@@nickkings2220 Dude, that exact problem was created by the banks and the government. The dont fund education thus that leaves the banks to make ''generous'' loans for the students so they can go to their universities to learn. The banks and the government basically play a game with the people, the government keeps over-expending to feed the military contractors while the banks eat the populus alive, not just on student loans but loans in general, through the use of usury, upwards to 20%.
@@davidcostilow6856 If you’re house is on fire you call fire fighters, why should we have to pick up the bill on that? So many lower class people are fucked due to company’s misleading them on the best loans and repayment methods.
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It would do nothing but help the rich and stupid, not everyone can even afford to take that much debt on in the first place. You'd need to actually fix the reason why it costs so much to begin with
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Stagflation comes from printing money and increasing the debt deficit.. were talking about over spending and more government involvement taxes spending duh!
As for the argument about immigration, why does it need to be all or nothing? There are many, many countries across the globe that allow immigration based on need. If you work in a field that their job market has a shortage of skilled labor, you may be able to immigrate. If you're unskilled labor, good luck. And before someone pulls out the "Americans won't do the jobs" line, if the jobs pay appropriately for unskilled labor, people will work, especially if they don't have Uncle Sam's teet to suckle on.
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you guys failed to consider the amount of americans who dont go to college due to the cost of it. im sure those people outnumber the people who are going for graduate degrees.
God Destiny is so insufferable. He just loves hearing himself talk and thinks he is a hundred percent right about everything and always has a reason as to why, what somebody else is saying is completely wrong on that topic and he always has the true answer. I agree that student loans should not be payed off but this guy is one of the most consistently annoying guests.
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Destiny is so stupid. I currently work for and have worked for big tech companies for the past 5 years. Every single one of them, over half of the programming team is overseas to save cost. Literally every single one of them.
Destiny: *Speaks confidently about a topic as he lays it out over the course of a twelve minute video* PKA audience: HE SAID I WAS WRONG WITHOUT PROVIDING 18,000 SOURCES FOR EVERY WORD *insert meth comment* At least give a rebuttal.
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Ever herd of a tech school? average cost is 40,000 average pay is $10 add ten years of interest .Destiny sounds so absolute about things. talks so fast .he really shows how little he knows.
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Destiny is a king of mental gymnastics. Jesus Chrchrist, claiming unemployment should be above a certain number. Unemployment should be close to 0 not 5%, heck off.
no economist believes that the unemployment rate should be 0%. 4-5%is considered full employment due to frictional unemployment, the effects of inflation and wage bargaining.
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Do you agree or disagree that student loans should be cancelled?
Disagree
I agree that AOC is extreme lol
Disagree
Do you guys do what Australia does and scale how much you pay back based on your income
If you cancel student loan debt you have to cancel the debt for the single mothers that decided not to do go to college and racked up credit card debt. Shit at that point you might as well cancel all debt it would be the only fair way.
Realistically it’s just a terrible idea to cancel debt, take responsibility for yourself.
I'll be hoenst here I don't think there are as many 75k-80k jobs out there that Destiny is thinking.
Yea, when a Mcdonalds worker in America gets half or 1/3rd the pay other countries do, I doubt large pay is the average.
@Fuck Google I agree that college is Overrated, currently skill acquisition is more important than a degree. I also agree the "our jobs are being taken" is silly, as someone I can't remember said roughly "If an immigrant who barely speaks english can come across the country and steal your job, You need to do a better job.". And as someone with similar situation, no degree working as a surgical instrument tech, I can see alot of people who are stuck with debt are with it because they couldn't shake their parents and peers beliefs that college is everything, because it was for them.
Fact is based on the info I've been able to find most people don't discharge their debt until age 50, and having that on someone who still can't legally drink just seems harsh. Sure, we could leave them to drown, but the world is no longer a zero-sum game, and every person who is able to support themselves comfortably, is another person who is able to advocate for things that we find important.
Go get an IT degree
There absolutely are tons of jobs that pay that well. The thing is that those positions require you to be good at something or certified in something. There's welding positions open for 40k and over and they simply require a welding test, welding is a skill that people can learn at home. No one is going to just be handed a good paying job, you have to be good at something, welcome to America.
@Fuck Google welding, most technical jobs like vehicle repairs. Since the IT Field is going to be highly competitive jobs like these might net you a decent salary. Plus they aren't that expensive to learn.
Destiny "corporations don't actually influence politicians"😭😭😭
It's true. He even went over it on his stream.
Yeah that's why they all donate to Super PACs
He lives in a different reality
I'll take "What is a super PAC?" for 300!
first thing that comes to mind is how apple and big tech companies constantly lobby and bribe politicians against the right to repair movement when it is pretty much universally wanted by the average person.
I'd rather our money be spent on endless war and corporate bailouts
And penny barriers
Lmao
Too bad that'll never happen or we'll never live to see it
The ultimate "uhmm actually" guy.
How should you correct someone if they are wrong?
@@rogerandersen7046 by shutting the fuck up.
@@ShlongDongSilver so you don’t like when people correct you when you are wrong???
@@rogerandersen7046 shut up dweeb
@@tonyflamingo8113 sick argument
This boy talk like he can't be wrong
destiny? XD
He’s mad annoying 😂
@@onthegocode1443 agree his ego big
Some things Destiny says has logic behind them but I don't know why anyone would ever try to argue with him because he'll just be like "That's just not true!" about whatever you say if you're not agreeing with him.
@@onthegocode1443 Glad I’m not the only one who thought that.
Destiny - “It’s not true” wow that’s a good point.
Fr dude tryna be right about everything but he’s not anytime he’s called out he gonna try to flip it
He goes on to explain his point. Try listening
@@bloblop8397 no lol
@@bloblop8397 destiny meat rider
this man is geeked. he’s talking on 1.25x speed
If adderall were a person
He thinks it makes him sound smart
I’m glad that Kyle’s face throughout this entire PKA shows my general attitude towards Destiny. Even if you didn’t say it, you let us know, Kyle 😂
my thoughts exactly
Yeah he talks a lot but doesn’t say much
@@kianbarrett1042 I remember my time as an AP high school student. I listened to all of my sources and accepted all of my claims. Hearing somebody confident in their word and enthusiastic about what they say is dangerous. Now that I am years removed from the collegiate system, I’ve learned to think for myself. His fans will likely take his word for gospel: that’s what scares me, even as a Democrat, as he is so wrong about many things he “knows” about.
@@kianbarrett1042 amphetamines
i smoked meth two days ago. i was acting similar to destiny
bro that guys jaw is rolling like a jiu jitsu black belt
Cheap wine and Adderall are coursing through his veins
He Adhd, it's just one of his ticks
"That's just not true" proceeds to talk really fast saying nothing to prove his point. This dude is a whole circus
The issue is people choose useless degrees that don't pay anything
No the issue is even if you graduate with a great degree you'll end up with around 30k in debt
@@GamerSlayer5000 yes, 30k in dept with a skillset that will land you more high job opportunities that will make you way more then 30k then someone with out a degree
@@020finnnn first of all there is 0 guarantee you'll actually find work in your field, second of all if there's a 30k cost of entry to learn a good trade than it kinda discourages poor people from doing it.
How are people supposed to pull themselves up by their bootstraps if the only jobs they're qualified for are shitty retail jobs that don't pay anything and take up all your time leaving you with 0 way to learn an actual trade. If you honestly think that education isn't insanely overpriced than you're either spoiled, too young to attend school yet, or dumb
@@GamerSlayer5000 if you take a direction with low job opportunities, that’s called you being dumb. I don’t go put all my money on blackjack on number 13 and complain when I don’t make money. The only solution is stopping the federal goverment from being in the student loan business and privatizing it. But this will add a few problems first. A cheaper college tuition means less valuable diploma, and make the high skilled teachers not teach. Why would you teach for a bunch of students when you are specialized in something and can make more practicing that instead of teaching? So quality would drop. If you think so simply of such a complex issue and call people with a other opinion dumb shows how simple your thoughts are.
@@GamerSlayer5000 Education is overpriced but a lot of those high costs are due to the government giving loans instead of funding public universities like they used to up until the late 70's when they switched and took over loans. Our schools in the US are also far more costly in size and style than those that are built in places like Europe and also kids in the US most of the time choose to go to a state school and take out loans to live in dorms or choose to go out of state. The reality is, if you pick a good degree, a 30k investment while overpriced is still a good investment and most who go to college see a good rate of return on this investment.
jesus...this destiny guys talking like hes reading a script coked out to the gills not expecting a response cause he looked up a stat on reddit.
Destiny... is exhausting. Boy gotta lay off all the droogz he gunna have a heart attack.
That’s just him bro. He’s thinks he knows legit everything. Total Lib
Adderall is a hell of a drug he gonna have a good old age life after all those pharmaceuticals take their toll ;)
@@jmillz7340 dudes heart is clapped
Overwhelmingly most college grads owe the cost of a mid-size car. Drive a Daewoo for awhile.
Exactly. Free cars for everyone when? lol
@@Ilikemusic101 When we elect Oprah
I Just realized woody's floor is half carpet half hard wood
Fuck u man, i dont want that shrapnel in my brain
Thats a rug fool
That's because he actually lives on a tv studio set. He's sitting where there would be a wall on the show.
It’s almost like people put carpet/rugs over hardwood floors lol.
Destiny talks fast to compensate
Is that why they all got owned lmfao. Keep coping white boy.
if u forgive college debt. then u need to make college free for everyone forever.... if not, then its not fair, future generations will be pissed and want reparation.
Or past/current students who already worked their way to pay it off themselves...
The people complaining about their student debt are the liberal arts graduates instead of cancelling their debt a liberal arts degree just shouldn’t be a thing unless you are going into education.
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This guy is tweeked out big-time
This segment is lacking a whole lot of data for the hosts and guest to contend that student debt relief is a bad idea. Very nuanced of them lol.
yeah this is actually funny
Well Biden just decided student debt relief is not needed. How’s that for you
@@suzyrottencrotch5132 Oh.
@@mop3836 true he decided it’s only needed for the most workers humans lol
@@mop3836 the primitive beings he needs votes from
Why do I even bother thinking, Lord Destiny knows all obviously.
As someone who takes adderall...this guy is speeding hard af
They say these things so confidently but they’re just wrong. Having money changes you
Explain
@@brycearchambault6260 America has money to send to Israel, Africa, etc..., has money to fund the UN, has money to expend on MOABs but suddently when we're talking about healthcare and education, they bail the fuck out and still allow banks to bend us over?
Remember when the banks crashed the world economy through fraud and most countries bailed them? yet we dont have money for healthcare and education.
The real problem of America is not money, but corruption, and once we deal with that problem, all that's left are the traitors that got us in this shit.
@@brycearchambault6260 with stagnant wages and inept labor unions the worker class has not been given any support since the implementation of public school almost a century ago. Educating our population would result in overall higher wages and income, which would result in more tax revenue for the government anyway. There seems to always be money for the airlines or the sand people on the other side of the planet but never for the broke American citizens. Our own brothers and sisters who just need help for a few years of higher education to fulfill their American dream.
I really don't understand why or how people put themselves 100k+ in the hole going to college
It’s because they’re brainwashed from an early age that college = success
@@staycozy47 here it works
Because they decide taking out a life-changing loan to go to private liberal arts school to party, live the "college experience" and get mediocre grades makes sense.
@@KALSKingdom most people don’t want to take college seriously and want to party. Most people don’t try to take college classes in highschool, they don’t want to go to a community college. I disagree with the thinking that college is always 100% bad, but as woody said, your employment is more secure, safer and all that. It’s a lot easier and safer to get to where you want to be. You can become a welder and put in work and make like $150 an hour, toy are working a backbreaking job and it takes work to get to that point. Some people are not the type of become welders, or plumbers. Some people want to become welders and plumbers and that is their dream job and they are happy with it. I also think a lot of people were forced to live a non luxurious lifestyle in college and indulge too much when they start making all that money. Granted I am a 17yo kid, but my plan would be to treat my self a bit but otherwise live on the bare minimum putting all I could into the loan debt.
@@jagerfromgsg945 Youve got good thinking at the end and and are reasonable, but i think you should wait to have your own possible experience with college or if not then wait until youre fully settled into your adult employment before you make a final judgement call on college/university costs and why theyre happening and whats worth more.
I made 55k last year as a factory worker. Just got promoted last week now I'm on pace to make 63k
Congrats on the promotion!
If you choose to get into debt, that's your problem, not mine. Don't force tax payers to pay off the debt you got into
Don't take the loans if you can't pay them off. Don't punish the taxpayers for your lack of good decision making.
Is that what you took? It seems to me that college is a good investment. A more highly educated and earning population provides more cash flow in to the economy.
It's paid for through a Wall Street speculation tax. It seems everyone against it wants to pretend the middle class would be paying for it. I didn't even go to college so I don't have any skin in the game, but the arguments against it are mostly dishonest.
I like how Destiny's arguments are "But that's just not true" and then he proceeds to tell half-stories.
Destiny isn’t gaslighting. He’s full on flamethrower torching these dudes.
A deranged adderall flamethrower
I sold my first house back in October and decided to be responsible and pay off the remaining $9K of my student loans. I can’t even describe how furious I would be if $10K got wiped out from everyone else
I understand why it would be frustrating... But why would you wish hardship on other people because you suffered it? Crabs in a fucking bucket.
@@wallywashtits1574 it’s not wishing anyone hardship, considering loans are something people get themselves into knowing that they need to be paid back. I’m all for pushing back the payments, but wiping out debt is a slap in the face for everyone else that paid theirs
Lol I like Kyle’s reaction! Let the boy speak since he is the fountain of knowledge
there are tons of jobs for people with no college degree that pay very well.... the 30k avg salary number destiny quoted seems very low because that factors in all people who are entry level, people who are low motivation, people who are just losers, people who work a side job while being a mother, people with handicaps and disabilities, retirees who choose to stay working a simple job like "greeter" or "toll booth worker" who might actually be very well off or prior military 20 years service and just so happed to only have went to high school.... it groups all those in with people who are semi successful in trades or trucking or running heavy equipment even small business owners.
You dont need a degree unless you are targeting a field where one is required.
Pretty much every trade after you get you're journeyman card will pay around 50k and that's just someone like a painter. If you're an electrician or plumber you could be making $30-$40 an hour plus overtime because those are trades that need people to work. All trades need people, the average construction worker is in his mid 50's. I feel like trades and union jobs aren't pushed enough, People always talk about college but college just isn't it for some people.
You took the loan out. Pay it back. Called being an adult.
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Holy shit my baked brain can't keep up with this man
Destiny has some good points, but he’s to long winded and tries to make up for it by talking faster which then comes across annoying.
Pretty sure that’s just how he talks.
Simple solution don’t go to college just to go
You took out a loan by choice, pay it back.
ikr who gonna give me a free degree ridiculous
@@MeloenTube if you work hard enough and are lucky enough plenty of schools and people would fight to pay for your college (my destiny wannabe know it all impression btw)
@@changes4339 good impression
Well, the big issue is... Working class people don’t wanna Pay for others “lesbian dance theory” degree thats not gonna contribute to society at all 😐
Destiny seems to talk fast and throw numbers out so that he seems informed on what he's talking about.
It makes it easy for him to lie. Like he does throughout this entire segment
@@dragonboy141 how did he lie?
For real , canceling student debt is gonna happen by taxing people who make millions in a day or more , anyone making 79000 and below will pay 0$ towards things like that and Healthcare if that comes to fruition as well
You can see how he gathers tbis stuff on his streams, he’s not just bullshitting
Idk about cancelling them, but someone does need to bust up these universities. College should never be the cost of a fucking new car every year, especially when we then also have to endure professors & teachers whine about how little they make
They government should just regulate interest rates. I don't mind paying the $35k. It's the interest rate that is killing me. I pay and pay and get nowhere. It is not like buying a car that's paid off in a few years.
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I’m in school, paying for myself and acquiring a decent bit of debt, but ffs i took the risk, I signed the contract. That’s why I work 😂
I don’t get how people can be so entitled
Always funny having this conversation with my peers
Now if a conversation about loaning shit loads of money to kids were to be had, that’d be cool, seems predatory to me
A lot of college students made bad decisions on what to major in and now have a 80,000 piece of worthless paper. English degree? Art degree? Good luck paying that off
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trades are up... 35k year to 68k in last 4 years...work hard earn more..
Laughs in Europe
now draw me a picture of mohammed
@@weispresidentnow 🤣🤣🤣
@@weispresidentnow someone would probably seek me out and kill me. So you got me there lol
See that's why I'm so 50/50 about the concentration camps in China; yeah it's really horrible, but... they their religion kind of brought upon themselves.
I think what people hate about collage is that you pay money to work hard to get a degree for a hard working job to pay back student loans which is hard. Result people crying about education
If they cancel student loan debt I’m going to be pissed that I became a welder instead of a fucking doctor.
He loves hearing himself
I hadn't thought of the idea that in the US it's essentially a gift to the middle and upper class. I wonder how they'd feel about paying for the education of those with low socio-economic backgrounds?
We are assuming everyone who went to college got good degrees.
PSA on PKA. The people talking in this clip are just as qualified to talk about this as I am qualified to talk about making TH-cam videos. Btw I suck at making videos.
King of pulling helpful, inaccurate statistics out of thin air
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this guy talks wayyy too much and too arrogantly i’m surprised they don’t seem pissed off at him
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How can he say big business doesn't influence politicians that's crazy
The thing about politicians being bought and paid for is kind of true but he leaves out the fact that corporations instead of bribing people will finance them. It's much easier for a large Business entity to give financial support to a politician who is going to institute changes that will benefit them then instead of bribing who ever is in office currently.
Woody “She’s wrong but comes from a place of good faith so she’s better than trump”
Illegal immigration hurts manual labor jobs for Americans. I have seen it my whole life.
The guys definitely gave a good argument against it
@@doubleomega52381 Kyle voted Dem?
@@doubleomega52381 That is surprising considering how pro-gun he is and what happened to him.
omg boy i always love seeing this woman speek
Institutions charging 100k or more for 4 years is absolutely ludicrous it’s one of the things America has seriously messed up in
As long as you majored in something like Computer Science you can pay that back in less time than it took you to rack up the bill. Programmers here in the Midwest make $80,000 starting with optional bonuses that go as high as an extra $15,000-$20,000. Moral of the story, don't sign up for college if you haven't looked at the pay back period on the degree you want to get.
You're the ones who went to college, You're supposed to be smarter than me, figure that shit out on your own.
The only thing I know about Destiny is that he has a child. This child is a group of black women that sing and dance together. One of them is Beyoncé.
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Destiny needs 30 minutes with drunk taylor
Yea, flipping AOC is coming from a place of goodness. That’s hilarious.
Based on Destiny's comments, I'm trying to figure out which Americans wanted their representatives to send more money out of the country in a COVID relief bill than to Americans?
He’s a lying sack of shit. He just talks fast
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I think that they hit the mark on a lot of things. But they’re way off target on this topic. My sister is way in debt because of student loans, (we’re relatively poor) and why should she be screwed for trying to rise above her current wage class.
While it sucks you’re in that situation the stats don’t lie about where the majority of that money would be going.
@@nickkings2220 I’m not saying that completely eliminating that debt is the answer, it’s gonna have to be more nuanced than that. Maybe on a case by case basis or people who’s family’s earn under a certain threshold.
That’s unfortunate, but people still shouldn’t have to pick up her slack. She’s took out the loans, not anyone else. People have to be accountable, and not everyone should just be guaranteed loans because it fucked the tuition market (see GI Bill). I have sympathy for her, but she should pay them back herself, she took them out.
@@nickkings2220 Dude, that exact problem was created by the banks and the government. The dont fund education thus that leaves the banks to make ''generous'' loans for the students so they can go to their universities to learn.
The banks and the government basically play a game with the people, the government keeps over-expending to feed the military contractors while the banks eat the populus alive, not just on student loans but loans in general, through the use of usury, upwards to 20%.
@@davidcostilow6856 If you’re house is on fire you call fire fighters, why should we have to pick up the bill on that? So many lower class people are fucked due to company’s misleading them on the best loans and repayment methods.
8:57 lmfao kyle is wild
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It would do nothing but help the rich and stupid, not everyone can even afford to take that much debt on in the first place. You'd need to actually fix the reason why it costs so much to begin with
Taylor’s facial expressions are so funny
Grades k-12 are government funded. Why is it crazy to add another 4 years?
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Proceeds to complain about people complaining..
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This guy is missing a lot of points still
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What about the people who pay off their loans? Do those people get their money back?
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Stagflation comes from printing money and increasing the debt deficit.. were talking about over spending and more government involvement taxes spending duh!
As for the argument about immigration, why does it need to be all or nothing? There are many, many countries across the globe that allow immigration based on need. If you work in a field that their job market has a shortage of skilled labor, you may be able to immigrate. If you're unskilled labor, good luck. And before someone pulls out the "Americans won't do the jobs" line, if the jobs pay appropriately for unskilled labor, people will work, especially if they don't have Uncle Sam's teet to suckle on.
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Everyone in the comments pressed b/c they went to college for psychology
you guys failed to consider the amount of americans who dont go to college due to the cost of it. im sure those people outnumber the people who are going for graduate degrees.
God Destiny is so insufferable. He just loves hearing himself talk and thinks he is a hundred percent right about everything and always has a reason as to why, what somebody else is saying is completely wrong on that topic and he always has the true answer. I agree that student loans should not be payed off but this guy is one of the most consistently annoying guests.
Around the 7 minute mark you can see his lower jaw operating entirely separate from the rest of his body. Dude is geeked out of his mind
@@frostybrew13 hahahaha
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He lets people come into his stream and debate him. If you think he's wrong, step into the ring.
@@frostybrew13 I think he had his jaw broken.
Woody knows nothing about AoC apparently. She does alot out of hatred too.
ye
You mind giving some examples? I'm kinda curious
@@Card_lol lol. Dude shes stupid af the bitch evil
@@agentrowlock2301 nice example
@@infinite_nexus4288 she openly talks about blacklisting trump voters simply for voting Trump. Shes trash.
You can’t have term limits it’s AGINST the constitution unfortunately.
Amendments to the constitution exist ya know.
I’m all for free college but if you take out a loan then there’s no reason why you shouldn’t pay it back.
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Destiny is so stupid. I currently work for and have worked for big tech companies for the past 5 years. Every single one of them, over half of the programming team is overseas to save cost. Literally every single one of them.
AOC is about self sacrifice? No.
She fell down and kissed Pelosi's feet in order to not get primaried by the DNC. She didn't want to lose her ritzy DC lifestyle.
Can I get my mortgage canceled?
Destiny defintiny a really smart guy but he just needs to realize that some of his points are not 100% accurate
The actual problem of immigration is not the job loss, but rather that they come in illegally and the unwanted social change
Love you guys, can’t stand Destiny 😅
Destiny: *Speaks confidently about a topic as he lays it out over the course of a twelve minute video*
PKA audience: HE SAID I WAS WRONG WITHOUT PROVIDING 18,000 SOURCES FOR EVERY WORD *insert meth comment*
At least give a rebuttal.
Forgive loans lol. Got 50k to pay off. Been holding off for 15 years now
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Ever herd of a tech school? average cost is 40,000 average pay is $10 add ten years of interest .Destiny sounds so absolute about things. talks so fast .he really shows how little he knows.
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Destiny is a king of mental gymnastics. Jesus Chrchrist, claiming unemployment should be above a certain number. Unemployment should be close to 0 not 5%, heck off.
no economist believes that the unemployment rate should be 0%. 4-5%is considered full employment due to frictional unemployment, the effects of inflation and wage bargaining.
Destiny defending corpo controlled pols is just sad.
If u took the loan u have to pay it back not make me the tax payer
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Didn't they just go over adderall and how bad it is? 😂
Every time I see hear destiny 🤦♂️
Literally too annoying to finish...
Greasy redditor gues who
jeez, how many more videos do we have to see with destiny? This guys mouth opens and just opinionated garbage falls out.
That’s kinda the point of a podcast... you think rust talk is spewing gold? Oh and maybe don’t click the video if they have someone you don’t like
@@imwhatyouyoucallaballsack6205 ok ballsack
Cancel student loans
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@@jamesgreenblath8747 go fuck yourself