Rob Parker - Would Steph Curry Have 4 Championships WITHOUT Kevin Durant?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 มิ.ย. 2022
- THE ODD COUPLE - Chris Broussard & Rob Parker battle it out on where Steph Curry's legacy stands now that he has become a four-time NBA Champion.
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One thing’s for sure, KD would have 0 championships without Steph!
Facts
Same with Curry if he faced LJ 2017/2018 they would of lost. Saw 2019 they would of definitely lost
@@Michael-kh1bq no, they wouldn't. lol
Unless he got a pre-knee surgery / pre-covid Kyrie maaaaaaaybe
And wardell would have 2 without Durant.
Chris destroyed Rob. Chris made very strong rebuttals to Rob's emotional arguments. Rob just straight up hates on Steph. At least everyone knows that.
Heck yeah pastor broussard dropped the hammer on rob you could hear how salty Rob is when he starts speaking you can tell he didn't want to give Steph credit at all put the damn feelings aside rob parker. Rob always talking about Steph blew a 3-1 lead but never wants to hear it about how KD's thunder blew the 3-1 lead why couldn't the thunder beat the warriors I thought basketball was a team sport unless I'm missing something. Would Steph have four rings without Durant? We know Durant wouldn't sniff a ring without curry answer that question rob!!!!!!!!stop smoking cigarettes and eating ice cream while watching golden girls reruns
Chris barely even let Rob speak...i was literally getting a headache...my gf comes in like, "why won't he let the other guy talk?"
Rob and Skip Bayless or brothers of bitterness toward Steph
@@mammam2796 yep! Skip Bayless Nick Wright and Rob Parker all to have a show called hate Steph Curry and the Warriors because these three hate Steph Curry and the Warriors so bad they won't even give Steph Curry credit for even winning his MVP this year and a championship without KD 5?always down playing everything Steph Curry does! Talk about your ultimate haters!
Being bitter is stress to your health 💯
Why he can't just admit. " Steph prove me wrong, he e gave us the moment i asked for and got the finals MVP"
And that's that.
C'mon man.
Right! As soon as Rob started talking he gets real slick and throws in the superteam narrative. Dude just admit you don't like Steph Curry, it's okay.
i do agree with rob on one thing where people are starting the conversation of is he is better than lebron, and that’s just not true. but yeah everything else rob is just a hater.
@@williamgray9692 his career is way better than LBJ, also LBJ is not top 10 and with correct CONTEXT he’s barely top 15.
@@jaycespades8360 steph curry: 4x champion, one finals mvp, one league mvp. 8 time all star, all nba 1st team 4 times all nba 2nd team 3 times, all nba 3rd team one time
lebron james: 4x champion,4x finals mvp, 4x league mvp, 18 time all star, 13x all nba 1st team, 3x nba second team, 2x all nba third team, 5x all defensive 1st team, rookie of the year.
@@williamgray9692 context will let you know LBJ spent his entire career in the East which was the weakest we’ve seen it in the modern day nba. He’s barely top 15 given the competition, and of course he’s going to have good individual stats when he’s the number one option, 6”9 250lbs and athletic in a weak conference. His longevity was always the goal he knew in a limited time span his career would amount to being mediocre. His greatest competition was a very young Celtics team, Drose carrying a bad Bulls team, and PG Pacers. Most his competition was always very young or past or at the end of their Prime. Not knocking him that he came at the right time but he doesn’t get credit for it. Any other sport or players we’d call this out but LBJ is shielded since he’s the face of the league.
Rob should have called in sick today……tough day for Steph haters😂
Rob still doing stand up 😂
You knew Rob and Skip were going to discredit Steph even after he got his fourth ring. Rob hates Steph like he hates Brady, it doesn’t matter how many championships he wins.
They discrediting Steph and everybody else discrediting KD. What can you do?
Those are good haters to have for winners like steph Brady and lebron
Rob and Skip need to ask if KD would have any chips w/o Steph and then ask if LBJ would have 3 less chips w/o the superteams of he, Wade, Bosh and he with Kyrie and Love.
It’s crazy how KD gets all the hate and not steph. He won one, lost one and ran to KD like a bitchhhh
@@Semtex7139 So Curry went to a team KD was on or did KD go to the GSW?
Chris had Rob in a choke hold for 14 minutes 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Facts
Rob's take here, makes absolutely no sense. He trying to give KD credit for getting to 1 final and losing before teaming up with Steph, but not giving any credit to Steph for reaching 1 final and winning before KD came to town and making 1 Final, and winning after KD left town. 🤔
Hater and his point are not consistent on all stars.. Rob is hater
😂😂😂😂
Rob probably praying the producer stop the fight.
Chris is killing Rob, especially when he said KD blew a 3-1 lead as well and no one talks about that
i dont disagree with you. but finals 3-1 vs non finals 3-1 is not the same weight right? not a hater here. im just asking.
@@lemzpotutan2839 That's true, but it doesn't change the fact that KD joined the team that beat him after blowing a 3-1 lead.
@@xxtetsukuroxx4879 thats true!
When it’s all said and done no one will remember Kd choking a 3-1 lead in the conference finals. They will remember curry’s choke tho
“What they gone say now”
Insert rob Parker flailing lol
Rob be hating on almost everyone other than KD and Rodgers who both got sent home early 😂.
He is constantly consistent…lol
God Rob you are a hater.
Rob is weird af , it says something about u by the players u always root / stick up for & for Rob to constantly defend KD & Rodgers Rob is a clown in my book .. clown defending other clowns
@@LaFlame1 Rob plays a character when he's on air. I don't for one second believe he believes anything he says when on air. It's how he pays his bills.
@@LaFlame1 How is KD a clown? Because he doesn’t like the media? All KD does is ball and try to avoid all those fake narratives that the media comes up with to stir up drama. And assholes like you call him a clown for it.
Rob is so salty it’s great. He kept setting the table for Curry to “choke” and then was gonna jump on him if the Warriors lost or he didn’t play out of his mind for game 6 or 7. Now he’s gotta putta ring to that finger. Golden.
Kinda upset Chris let him off so easy. He knew he would cry and shut down for a whole show if he held him accountable.
Yeah he can’t say nothing now he is a clown
Rob is no different than Skip Bayless, Max Kellerman, Kendrick Perkins, Antoine Walker, or Nick Wright. They all just knew the Warriors would lose, and can't stand a little guy like Steph leading a "soft" jump shooting team past the bigger teams and players these guys grew up rooting for. Further, all 5 of these guys realize they get paid for being contrarians and haters, so they gleefully hate hard!
@@joew.6836 like alot of old school fans I think they’re frustrated that no one is allowed to touch players nowadays, these “little guys” are allowed to roam free unlike back in the day/2000s
Chris: "You're hating"
100% spot on.
Rob Parker and every KD stan will always try to discredit Steph. Personally, I had Steph above KD from before this year and I didn't even think it was a debate. But NOW? Even if anybody ranked KD higher prior to this year, they'd be total idiots to not elevate Steph above him after winning another ring.
Against the same team KD couldn’t even win a game against
@@demarfearon5996 Yeah exactly.
Yup. Kd absolutely has to win just 1 more and I'll put him over Curry. Let's not forget Durant had Westbrook for how many years lol
@@themarkl0813 so KD wins one without Steph and he’s above him? Your bar is low
@Lamar Stewart I’m not sure KD wins another ring at all. Not with his current team as constructed. He’s not a leader.
Rob Parker is the absolute last of any sports analyst I want to listen to. His arguments have little to no logic. You can hear his bias everytime he contradicts his own points. If Brussard was not on this show and Rob had a solo Podcast, he'd have 10 subscribers and 9 of then would be family and friends. Rob is a grumpy old man, not a sports analyst.
😂😂😂😂 faccs
Man he's terrible. Broussard is running circles around him and Rob just keeps repeating the same nonsense without actually backing up his points. I don't even understand why he's on here
I agree....his time is over....he sounds crazy. Sometimes its ok for both of you to agree.....Steph and the Warriors did their thing. You can start hating at the beginning of next season.
I couldn't agree more.
* Would Steph have won those two rings without KD - Would Magic have won without Kareem? Would MJ have won without Scottie? Would LeBron have won without D Wade? Why only ask this question about Steph?
* "But KD made it to a finals without Steph" - Ok, so now we're giving credit to going to finals and losing? So then I guess Steph gets credit for going to the finals two more times and losing those, right? No? Why not? What logical reason can Rob give for giving KD credit for going to a finals and losing but not giving Steph credit for going to TWO finals and losing?
Some of his arguments were so illogical (like knocking Steph for losing in the play in last year) that it doesn't deserve addressing. He's a sports shock jock, nothing more. When major sporting events happen, he's the last person I want to turn to to get their opinion. He's even worse than Skip Bayless, which is hard to do!
9 would be family 😂 bruh 💀
Chris killing Rob here 😂😂😂
The better question is “would KD even have 2 without going to Steph’s team?”
Broussard absolutely killed Rob, what a murder 😭
Probably not but would steph have 4
@@evp159 steph might possible get another one in the next 2 years than what are people gonna say....lol the warriors are just getting started
@@chasenickles260 great team. But that didn't answer my question. Deflection
NO
I love how Chris used the card “ you giving credit for getting to the finals , you gotta win baby” Chris you’ve been using that card to argue for LeBron what are you talking about? 🤦🏼♂️
Rob criticized Steph for winning 73 games and losing the finals. But he praises Durant for losing the finals
@@marcuscarpenter7230 that part bro KD wanted to lead his own to a finals to make a name for himself and honestly don't blame him but steph did it give that man his flowers, curry killed Boston something KD couldn't do and he's supposed to be the better player
I tought about it directly when he said that and was thinking to comment and u are absolutely spot on.
Normally Broussard is balanced.
That take was the worst such a hypocrite statement.
These hype American shows is toxic and disgusting by lying and manipulating with fake created narratives for their own agenda often for Lebron and Steph now with Top 10 takes as well is sickening!
he was pointing out the hypocrisy, rob kills lebron for losing 6 finals yet is trying to say oh KD made the finals even though he lost as a positive so he's being a straight up hypocrite that is why chris said oh so now you get credit just for getting there?
Right!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😂😂😂😂 Chris always do that when it fits his narrative
3yrs ago Rob Parker: "NO KD NO RING" 😂😂😂
SOUND JUST LIKE EM LOL
@@johnnybrownjr7214 Rob made that Statement when GS lost to Raptors in the finals
Rob you are hating on Steph for no good reason
fun fact:
-warriors win 15' = "only because kyrie and love weren't healthy" ...steph discredited
-warriors lost 16' = "3-1... lbj is greatest...blah blah blah..." iggy, and bogut were hurt and draymond suspended game 5 (3 best defensive players) but steph is discredited
-warriors win 17' & 18' = "kd carried the team and was the best player" kd averaged 28 steph averaged 27... and steph had 1 bad game that brought his average down but closed the last game with 37 ... steph discredited
smh... its never enough for haters
Curry played injured in the 2016 finals. And as you said bogut got hurt just 5 minutes into into the first quarter of game 5 which caused him to miss the rest of the series which is also the same game draymond got suspended and iggy played injured that series too. I believe he got injured game 5 but played the rest of the series. No one made excuses. The hate must stop. It's hard to listen to Rob or skip for more then 5 minutes.
chris a savage for this one, and rob was contradicting himself away too much
Rob Parker will NEVER give Steph his credit. Steph could win 3 more rings back-to-back, and Rob cannot admit Steph's greatness. Let it go Rob.
Exactly.
He has to beat a great with a team..like bird vs magic.duncan vs lebron ..only time faced a great lost to lebron and recruited durant..only wins are lucky injury years
@@xavierb9061 Salty tears after all these years? 😂😂😂
@@xavierb9061 cry and embrace the despair.
@@xavierb9061 So we can then say LBJ won 3/4 chips because he was on 2 superteams, one with Wade and Bosh and the other with Kyrie and Love going by what you and others say.
The Curry slander HAS to stop. It's now reached the point of absolute absurdity.
I agree but u think this bad? The bron slander is insane to me
@@russell9411 bro literally everybody got Lebron top 2 all time, what are you talking about
The ratio between curry “slander” and curry praise is lopsided, leaning towards the fanboys ..the slightest criticism gets called hate because that’s they favorite player
I don't understand slander for steph or kd. why must we slander one player to praise another and why is the conversation about kd, it just a little over 24 hrs and seem like conversation should be about warriors and boston. why must it be you have to slander kd to build up steph. Can't they both be great player
@@russell9411 Lebron brings that stuff on his own, with his tweets, his politics, and ignorance. Most of the slander is non basketball related.
My man Chris Broussard with the mic drop at the end!!! LMAO RIP Rob Parker
Rob Parker, I like you bro but your take on this subject appears to be coming from somewhere else other than your honest basketball observation. Steph is definitely in the conversation as a top 10 all-time player and his resume speaks for itself!
On top of that, he's now a 4 time champion and didn't ride anybody's wagon to get those rings. KD needed the Warriors more because he was entering his 10th season without a championship. Steph changed the game, no team hopping, and is in position to win at least two more championships. Give him his flowers now
Skip Bayless is the same way....give this man his just due. These are not even arguments anymore...its just pure hate
I have a very simple analogy of what just happened with Chris and Rob. Chris is the Gas stove, the the skillet, the fire 🔥 under the skillet, the oil in the skillet and Rob is the egg!! 😂
@@e.a.jonesplumbingservices.2614 I swear I've never seen anybody get annihilated in that way....I almost started to feel sorry for Rob lol but he was called out as he should have been.
At this point anybody saying Durant is better than Curry needs to be checked
He is a better basketball ball player…The difference is the impact on the input of other players game
@@cordraldudleyjr.5640 he’s just the taller player..skills wise Curry is way superior which is why he actually win
@@whooptiwu1481 facts
Would kd have 2 without curry is the real question ??? Shouldn’t be asking this question when golden state got a ring and kd got swept
What about 2 yrs ago or last yr when the warriors didn't make the playoffs n lost in the play in
@@tj2nasty4ya83 but was GS a full healthy Team 2yrs ago?
@@a_collection_of_cell neither has kd's teams..
@@tj2nasty4ya83 What matters is they were both healthy this playoffs and look at what happened
@@demon2438 hold up.. So u just gonna act like kyrie played the whole season or in the playoffs his religious issues kept him under 100%.. U don't eat all day n play in a playoff game n then only get to eat while the game is going on.. Or the fact harden left they got Ben who didn't play..
LOL loving seeing Rob Parker being an objective reporter by playing "what if's".....I don't doubt Steph is listening and that's great for the Warriors!
He is the Black SKIP Bayless lol
What kind of question is this? Would Curry have 4 chips without KD? How bout would KD have any chips without GSW. He lost the head to head matchups with them boys. He needs them more than they need him don't forget it.
KD clearly would'nt have 2 rings if Warriors hadn't chased him to join them. But adding KD guaranteed them 2 easy rings. That's Robs point, if it weren't for KD, Steph would probably only have 2 rings.
@@onidtubes I get that point, but that will always open up the reverse of where would KD be without Steph
@@mattblock6616 both can be true
@@onidtubes I still don’t get the assumption that Steph would only have 2 rings of Durant never went there?
@@ryandavis6290 same assumption that a healthy cavs would lose to a warriors without KD.
The warriors proved that if you put any all star caliber player that can hit shots and play some defense out there then they can win at a high level
Example being Andrew Wiggins and it's not bad having a sharp shooter like Jordan Poole of the bench
They needed a better small forward than Harrison Barnes to win the 2016 title. If Golden State Harrison Barnes played like Dallas Harrison Barnes or Sacramento Harrison Barnes, Golden State likely would have won.
Andrew Wiggins is an upgrade over Golden State Harrison Barnes. Kevin Durant was a massive upgrade over Barnes, which is why Golden State was unbeatable.
You need another all star added to a team with 3 stars and Iggy off the bench??
@@Howdidhenotseeme need? Wiggins became an allstar with the Dubs. Big difference. Iggy hardly played all season, Klay just came back from almost three years of inactivity, and Dray wasn't as good for stretches. Context matters
@@michaeljohnson7945 Steph and Klay wasn’t that great in those final 3 games either especially in game 7. Steph won finals MVP this year so he’s pretty much done everything that he’s capable of doing though.
Thank you CB! Rob was trying to make a point and was contradicting himself!! He’s a hater!!!
KD without Steph:
0x Championships
0x Finals MVP
1x MVP
Steph without KD:
2x Championships
1x Finals MVP
2x MVP
You decide who needed the other more. They had the most successful years together. If you ask me, I think he'd have one less without Durant. I believe they could've completed a 2014 Spurs-esque revenge win vs Cleveland in 2017 but probably get beaten by Houston in 2018 without Durant.
You doing great my guy until the end, the warriors finished off Houston without kd. Everyone thought that was Houston's best chance to advance when kd got hurt but they all forgot that steph and the boys have won before, beaten kd won before kd and now have won after him. Oh by the way they went on to sweep Dame and CJ and if klay doesn't get hurt, they would've won in 2019. Nick Nurse had to resort to janky defense and it worked
Try to diminish KD all you want to elevate Steph, but there is no questioning that KD was the reason they won those two titles. He was the Warriors best player. Steph was riding shotgun as great as he was. Can’t erase the fact that Steph needed KD to overcome LeBron - who had already firmly cemented himself in the top 10.
@@margincharge3657 I don’t deny that. But everyone asks “would the Warriors win if KD never joined?” Why does nobody ask the opposite?
Enough said bruh u right on the money
@@margincharge3657 no one refuses kd was the best player on the team but the point is even if kd did not join steph. Steph would have still won another championship bruhhhh all forget this team won 73 games in a session definitely they would have won another or all of them without kd cause it’s the most winning team in nba history. They know what it takes to win
Would MJ have 6 championships without Pippen? Why do players today get discredited for having good teammates but players of other generations don’t. How many HOF did Magic play with?
And Magic played with one of the top 3 players of all fine in Kareem. Rob and Skip are clowns
Scottie could have been replaced with any other 2nd tier allstar (and I was a hardcore 90s bulls fan)
@@nasmaxfit Stop it, I was born in the 80s and watched the Bulls as well. Scotty is a top 75 player. 10x all-defensive, 7x all NBA, 94 stl champ, you can’t just replace that.
I think that old timers feel since you created your own team is like cheating in a way. I can only win with a stack team. The old teams players had NO say on who was on the team. Like MJ lost to Boston so MJ joins the Celts instead of climbing that mountain.
Jordan’s record in the playoff Sans Scottie? 1-9
Probably not, but Durant more than likely wouldn't have any rings without Curry and the warriors
He would if he went to the Celtics instead of Golden State.
G. you are right.
@@melvinhhcp3615 This team was not the same 3 years ago when KD left plus There is no guarantees that he meshes well with this young core just like Kyrie didn't mesh. Boston is better without a mega star there. Better to develop from the ground up like Golden state did
@@melvinhhcp3615 nope.
@@melvinhhcp3615 lol he would if he went to another superteam
KD without Steph: One regular season MVP
Steph without KD: 2 regular season MVP’s, 2 titles, 1 FMVP.
Literally comparing a hall of famer status player to Carmelo Anthony with a MVP.
Ain't it team game lol. Y'all clowns,. Organization is better.
@@timbrown9796 what happened when they matched up
@@timbrown9796Didn’t KD join the nets cuz of the playoff assets they had in Dinwidie and Allen? And then traded their ass for Harden? Whole point of him going to Brooklyn was to prove he can win with just one other star like the clippers and lakers had assembled with PG/Kawhi and AD/Bron. He caused all the mess within the nets roster, worst decision maker in the league.
I love how silent Rob is today, it is refreshing to see how doubters go mum. 🤐
the answer is yes what did Steph average in those finals with Durant 28 a game then there is Andrew Wiggins he proved to me that you could put a solid player basically in the same spot has Durant and still get buckets and more!
LeBron would disagree
@@yvonne2965 what in the world does the 6× NBA finals loser got to do with this?
@@joseromero5892 if kd didn’t join golden state bron would have 6
@@willyo4579 nah. They would have got someone else and just needed to upgrade on Barnes
He’s not beating Cavs at their full health without KD.
Why is this talked about though ? KD got how many rings without steph?
But stop acting like steph better than kd
@@blackjesus2082 he is
@@blackjesus2082 this is a kd burner account. Dude! Curry just beat the team that punked and swept you. Be grateful for the rings and steph avenging you for that celtics sweep. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@evefet5491 He's not! He just has a better team & GM.
@@melvinhhcp3615
Stop coping. It's embarassing.
Why do talk show hosts always find a
Negative in a positive. Give the people / steph the love he deserve.
Because there wouldn’t be a show without someone having to play a *‘Villain character’*
@@Ttcw89 don't defend this buffonery. PTI and Around the Horn have been on for 20 years and nobody on their shows act like villains and just say stuff for shock value.
the real question is does Durant get 2 rings without Steph and the answer is no!
I agree. And how many rings would LeBron James have without handpicked teams? Notice LeBron James now wants to follow in Durant's footsteps and play with Steph Curry! Has Curry ever mentioned playing with anyone else? LeBron James toom the easy routes to rings in the East. Once in came West, we see what metal LeBron James really has! A Laker team ranked as one of there worst while stacked with 5 Top 75 players!
Rob: “I hear people saying”
Chris: “who’s saying it?”
Rob: “I just hear people”
Every damn time lmao can just make up his own narrative based off arguments that don’t exist
Every time
He's never able to name any of these people who say these things he alleges smh.
He hears people in his own head
@@stinger5127 ima start saying that I hear people say MJ isn’t a top 10 player all time. Which people? Idk, just people. I hear it. Trust me
The real question is would KD have a ring without Steph Curry ?
What if KD would have joined the Cavs?
@@stonedecatur6602 The Cavs already had the league's highest payroll. Boston was his only realistic option.
Would Steph have a ring without Klay?
@@brogaming950 these Durant fans are the stupid fans ever 😂🤦🏻♂️
@@brogaming950 would Jordan have a ring without Pippen?
ROB SCRAMBLING to discredit Steph. Would KD even have 2 rings without Steph Curry? The only team that got swept this playoffs was KDs team. The team that swept them just got beat by Steph CURRY. . LMAO. SEETHING. KD has done nothing without Steph.
It almost seems personal
KD wouldn't have none
What about 2 yrs ago or last yr when the warriors didn't even make the playoffs.. Way to say that after the warriors win
Can ppl watch basketball every great player been swept so let tht sink in on top of tht golden state the team is good period and a way better team then nets all around so pls stop with the kd got swept also Steph is great so no argument there but Celtics is a better around team then nets also if u take out kd lyk they did then you have to beat Kyrie Thts how they swept them but u can’t so tht to the warriors cuz they have to many good player period and they got the same core so stop it with the comparison with warriors beatin celtics and nets being swept it happens
To me that's a legitimate question would he have 4 rings if durant would've never joined him but yes durant too he wouldn't have 2 rings if he wouldn't of joined curry and the warriors. Plus his first ring was questionable cause kyrie and love was out in that finals. But you gotta give curry credit for winning this year to me this is his first legitimate championship and he won his first finals mvp which he didn't have that's why people wasn't giving curry that much credit.
Why does no one bring up the series of unfortunate events that happened to The Warriors in 16?
Dray suspended for a game
Harrison Barnes the best role player at that time went cold as ice 🥶
Andrew Bogut got hurt
And Lebron and Kyrie had one of the best 3 game run in finals history and Lebron lead everyone in all major categories. And these are the things that lead to that epic collapse not just Steph.
👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏
I don’t see how anyone blames the Warriors or Steph for getting KD. The reason why they lost the 3-1 lead is because they didn’t have a wing that could go get their own basket. Harrison Barnes was a bum. They needed an upgrade at that position and KD was available so it worked out. Steph was the only superstar on that team as well no matter how much success they had.
This championship just showed they needed someone better than Harrison Barnes but not as great as KD. And that’s Wiggins. And then people need to give KD credit for doing a sign and trade instead of just leaving in free agency because that helped the Warriors eventually get Wiggins after they had Russell first.
LOL. No superstar in NBA history did what Steph did. A top 5 player in his prime on a 73 win team goes and recruits the #2 player in the NBA in his prime. He broke the code to get some easy rings.
@@trevorc8778 He had a MCL sprain the series before & he just won a FMVP against THE SAME BOSTON TEAM THAT SWEPT 🧹 THE NETS 💀
@@trevorc8778 That shows how great Steph is. All your favorite players won championships with a top 75 player. Let Steph get one and he done broke the code, cheated, and whatever else people come up with.
Harrison Barnes was 5/32 FG in the last 3 games of the 2016 Finals lmao
In 2016, Steph, Iggy, and Bogut were all suffering through injuries throughout that Final and Draymond was suspended a game. They barely lost to a fully healthy Cavs team. If the Warriors ran in back with the same team and barring injuries, they could definitely beat Lebron & Kyrie in 2017 and Lebron & Love in 2018.
Excuses
@@dparks2856 Excuses? You Lebron fans are the masters looking for excuses for those 6 finals' Ls and this years no play-in.
@@luisvergara6502
No excuses. He lost to better teams except 2011.
The Warriors was up 3-1. They had to win one game. Stop it.
If “if” was a “fifth”
So would Jordan have 6 titles without pippen? Would shaq have 4 titles without kobe and wade? Would kobe have 5 titles without shaq? Would Lebron have 4 titles without wade bosh kyrie and davis? Would kawhi have two titles without duncan parker ginobili and one of the greatest defensive teams ever assembled in toronto? Like we cant keep doing this nonsense. We as basketball fans have to be better and start being objective. I understand making jokes about players and clowning them when they play bad or do something horrendous on the court, but we have to still be objective once we start talking seriously about the player.
That was an idiotic statement from Rob Parker per usual!! Smh
Rob Parker is pissed because his beloved KD got his ass swept and looked pedestrian against the same Celtics team who let Steph do whatever he wanted
Team Sport..
@@samuelgainey8336 team sports without Wiggins warrior wouldn’t even make to the final.
@@jerrandorose5443 Ok that's fine. Steph still dominated the series and made it easier for Wiggins to get great looks because of the attention the Celtics gave Steph.
“No no that’s your answer no no” lol
Good stuff.
Steph has a 4-2 championship record in 13 years on one team. Steph is a humble player that deferred to Durant for the good of the team.
LeBron has a 4-6 championship record in 19 years with 3 teams where he got to hand pick his teammates. In Miami, Dwayna Wade deferred to LeBron for the good of the team.
And curry didn't get to handpicked kd? U are slow af
The fact remains the Warriors got KD to counteract Lebron. To suggest they would've won those two anyway is ludicrous because that's clearly not how GS felt then.
Thank you
@Beery You know I could say the same thing about Golden State in the Western Conference Finals in the same year right?
Rob getting cooked again
Chris is dominating this conversation and it's funny 😂
I love when these two fight because they never go too far with each other and throw low blows. Heated debates is as far as it goes.
Please tell me you noticed it as well
STEPH GOT 2 RINGS WITHOUT KD
He’s not top 5 but he’s still an amazing player? Arguably top 10!!🔥
Steph not a top 5 player?
@@russell9411 nah if he had won with 73, yes
He not top 10 and definitely ain’t better than KD
@@blackjesus2082 Fax
@@blackjesus2082 yea cuz 4 titles says other wise
KD gets swept in the first round and Rob is silent. Steph loses a 3-1 lead in the Finals and he's not that dude. Overlooking the fact that he overcame a 3-1 deficit vs KD. Make it make sense Rob Parker.
Why mention GS beat OKC, if they didn't win the title? 🤔
@@melvinhhcp3615 it's a comment about KD not beating Steph
@@jamesross6476 It don't mean nothing if they still lost in The Finals.
@@melvinhhcp3615 are you deliberately missing the point. It's about Rob's biased critique of Steph. And KD hasn't won without Steph.
@@jamesross6476 Rob sounds logical to me... KD's teams were never in position to win without Steph. 2020 he was out with his achilles injury. 2021 Harden, Jeff Green, and Kyrie were injured. 2022 Kyrie missed half the season & KD suffered his own injury. The Nets never had any real continuity.
The would Steph have 4 rings without kd question is a joke… cuz he’d for sure have 2…
But KD has 0 without Steph and that’s factual
The problem that I have is that steph seems to get a pass that people don’t give to Lebron. If Lebron recruited a player that was better than him to win 2 championships while not winning fmvp for either one of them people would be dragging Lebron.
@@jaydot4956 Lebron has literally only won a ring with other superstars. Curry has 2 rings with no other superstar
@@Bigmike55626 Kyrie wasn't a superstar until after he won, if you was watching the league around that time he was just a rising star, and even if Steph didn't have a another superstar you act like he played with bums Klay and Dray we're all stars/all nba... its similar to Jordan where he didn't have teammates of his calibur but they were all nba
@@jaydot4956 Lmao lebron didn’t even make the playoffs he has nothing to do with this man let it go dude just give Steph his credit damn what’s so hard about that man this about steph not lebron
Lol Chris saying I let you talk let me talk after he spent 3 minutes over talking Rob is hilarious. I know Rob can't wait to go on vacation next week
Chris's rudeness made this take horrible. The way that he was overtalking, yelling and screaming at Rob and then had the nerve to say that Rob was getting emotional. Jeez, I hope that he doesn't talk to his wife and kids that way, if so, his household must be unbearable. If he had any class, he would delete this. Very unprofessional.
True, but rob takes are so bad on this one. It like when someone says something so left, it’s hard to keep you mouth shut and listen.
@@emwebb10 I agree but they're a professional duo, you gotta let Rob get his off too. Let him make a fool of himself first and then bury him
@@papertags naw I think at this rate he need to let rob go. He been so bad
@@papertags rob always does the screaming and ranting so to act like Chris always does this is ingenious. If anything he tolerates rob way more than the average person ever would
Rob flailing HARD!
I feel bad for Chris having to deal with rob on a daily
Even if Steph goes to win 6 rings Rob would say he still hasnt proven himself 😂😂
Warriors fans really hate a guy that helped them win 2 rings literally y’all talk about him more than anybody else
Steph is more accomplished than kd but kd more talented sorta like the brady vs rodgers argument
Except they play on same team so no argument
@@xavierb9061 it was the same thing ..
What good is talent if you don't translate it into wins?
@@HopefulNihilist 2 fmvps thats wins
Steph definitely could, but it would have been much harder because he wouldn't have been on one of the best teams ever that was by far the most talented in the league. It probably would have been 2 absolute dogfights against the Cavs.
and denver and the clippers and the lakers and the jazz and the rockets and the blazers etc.
It's sad how the media can't even admit their wrong. Their ego nd pride won't let them be a actual objective reporter and analyst
😂😂😂 rob keeps moving the goal post. Guess he heard curry holding the trophy say "what they going to say now??"
Would KD have 0 rings without Curry
right lmao man always trying to discredit curry
He’d have at least 2 in Okc if James Harden never got traded…. That’s like the warriors trading draymond
How would you answer that
Yes
This is the problem I have with some media members how they constantly defend KD..
“no no thats ur answer” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 man i luv this vid Rob was so embarrassed that chris was killn him and debunking everything he ever has said
“Got to a Finals??!!!” “ You gotta win baby!!” 😂
Would Rob be able overcome his RG3 situation if he didn't get this great chance with Chris
Isn’t rg3 a cornball ?
@@moemoe-jb2fw ask the network that suspended him
Great point.
@@moemoe-jb2fw how is he a cornball? And why would an older black man try and destroy another black man's character on live tv?
@@remnant8898 uh hello isn’t that what you people do on a daily? Look at shaq on Javale, Candace owens, Brandon Tatum,
Congratulations to the Golden State Warriors 2022 NBA World Champions, the league has been put on notice they have a core and 4 young developmental players from the front office to the players, this organization is a " Commitment To Excellence " Back To Back 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏀🕶
Chris had Rob's final chess piece (king) running all around the chess board trying to escape his fate. Meanwhile, Rob is trying everything - knocking down the pieces, making illegal moves, and making up new rules. Check mate buddy.
Rob: Its his team, they choked a 3-1 lead which should've never happened. He couldn't get one win!
He's talking about Curry but you can say the exact same thing about KD. Steph came back from 3-1 deficit against KD in WCF.
I don't think I have heard much dumber than Rob saying, "We don't want you Durant" every team wanted Durant.
The question is would Durant have any titles without Curry! When is that episode Rob 🤣
Rob Parker contradictory is at a All-Time high 🌡
7:15 yes Rob Curry blew a 3-1 lead in the Finals, KD blew a 3-1 and got swept it happens
Steph is one of the most fun players to watch, and is an amazing talent. He is definitely an all-time great player. However, I don't think there is any way he can considered top 10 all-time. Look at the current generally accepted top 10..... Jordan, Lebron, Kareem, Russel, Magic, Wilt, Shaq, Bird, Duncan, and Kobe. The only guy on this list without multiple all-defensive team awards is Magic. Are you really gonna put Steph over Magic in the top 10? Magic has a slightly better career defensive rating as Steph, and is more versatile on defense because of this unusual size for his position. Steph's career is not yet over, and he may have more titles and MVP's coming his way..... However, as of now, I don't see any reasonable argument for him to be considered top 10. Now, if you wanna make a top 10 list POST MERGER, Russell and Wilt are out, and that would give Steph a potential spot. I would still take Hakeem over Steph all-time, but after that, he's in the mix. I think Giannis will finish with a better all-time spot, but we'll see. I love these debates!
I think honestly you have to take out old players like wilt and Kareem for the simple fact that like everything else basketball experiences evolution. These guys played in much different seasons with less pace and less need for good decision making because the game used to be to pass to the big man n let them score in the paint. There’s a reason wilt got 100 points without and 3pt shots. In the Modern era the closest anyone got was Kobe and he took a significant amount of 3s. Old stats especially big man stats like rebounds are always stacked in older generations because of the gameplay style. As talented as wilt and Kareem were if you put them in the modern nba do they affect winning as much? Where floor spacing is a thing ? You’d have Kareem at the top of the key totally unable to guard perimeter players like what Rudy garbage I mean Gobert looks like. Maybe they’d be effective in the post today but because of how 3s are important they would not be able to affect winning as much for the fact that they would have to put in way more effort for similar results. The best big in the league arguably Giannis is only that fast because he is not necessarily too big but he does have a lot of length. Generally the trade off for height is speed. So I just see a slow wilt n slow Kareem getting killed in the NBA today n that’s why I can live with them being out
Bill Russell and Wilt Chamberlain should be out of the top 10, they played before the modern NBA
@@anthonycelestin3559 bro please stfu how can you even say that and call yourself a ”NBA FAN”
Don't forget Magic has 4MVPs & 5 chips
@@369pendulum yeah, everyone on that top 10 list is incredibly accomplished, so we have to nitpick the details to decide who gets in and who does not.
I agree. If KD doesn’t go to GS, then Lebron would have SIX TITLES right now!
Nah
I disagree with Rob on this 1..if u knock curry for 3-1 finals loss. U got to knock Bron for the Dallas finals. And I will add the spurs finals when they told the media they was keeping their team together. So they can get the title back they lost and made it back and won. We as people giving double standards from person to person
Rob is straight hating at this point 🤣
Why is Chris not letting Rob talk? Chris be sensitive as hell when Rob does it. Lol
Robs a clown
@@Mj-uz1ng on occasions....they both are.
Everyone had help. including Lebron who was ringing chasing and ensured all teams were curated to his preferences wherever he went. MJ was the centerpiece but was surrounded by talent to position him to succeed. Magic had Kareem.
Can’t ring chase if your the guy lol people just say anything
@@willyo4579 KD ring chased and was the guy
Skip Bayless and Rob Parker are getting killed today.. 🤣
You guys are a great duo
I wouldn’t put Steph in the top 10. He can lead a team but he can’t carry a team. Top 10 players like LBJ or MJ were clearly all time greats even before they won rings.
That's preposterous. Before MJ won anything, everyone just thought he was a really talented scorer. There were calls in the Chicago papers to trader MJ in 87. And until Lebron went to Miami...he couldn't win anything. And everyone was on him. It's not enough to just get to the finals. You have to win. Steph carried this team in the playoffs. Klay was inconsistent and Poole came and went...depending on the series. Kareem couldn't make the playoffs in LA before Magic. You need other players to win championships.
@@christophershaffer3921 MJ and LBJ were carrying lottery teams to the playoffs, but they didn’t win championships because obviously they didn’t have great teammates yet. The greatest players make your team competitive but great teams win championships.
@Beery Steph was in a better situation
I don't think so.. Cavs could've easily won 1 of those finals without kd
Exactly. Maybe all if both teams fully healthy. Kd over did it. Be the same if Kd went to the Cavs etc.
If they did and kyrie never left, that would have been a all time duo
Lol the time they won with out Kd it took kyrie and bron breaking finals scoring records and the nba giving them a stimulus package suspending dray 😂 like it was never easy
@@jeremyjones1228 people always act like the warriors just got stomped that series like it didn’t take one of the greatest shots ever to seal the deal
@@jeremyjones1228 Definitely wouldn’t be easy for the Cavs to beat them even in 2017 but getting KD definitely made it easier for the Warriors to beat the Cavs but Draymond played well in game 7 at home and they still lost so who really knows what woulda happened in game 5. That’s Draymonds best game ever and they couldn’t win.
Rob’s argument didn’t make much sense. I rather him just say he doesn’t like Steph Curry.
Broussard won't let rob talk. Allow Parker to make his whole argument, then jump in. Broussard is a little rude, interrupting too often.
Steph Era obviously, LeWashed had to travel, Steph did it all grass roots
Steph could never do this with another team. he was lucky to be drafted into the perfect situation. its more impressive that Lebron could recreate success wherever he goes
How can it be “stephs era” when Lebrons era surpasses steph. Lebron has been a superstar since the early 2000s, steph has only been a superstar since 2014.
@@professorfinesser4322 Did Steph get lucky, or did they BUILD AROUND HIM??? Golden State WAS NOT THE PLACE TO BE before Steph Curry got there either! So.....they BUILT AROUND STEPH! BOTTOM LINE!!!
@@TGF25 and did the Cavs build around lebron? No? Okay carry on...
Rob Parker talking yep yap
If the greatest shooter of all time is not in the top ten of all-time players then who is, this man has changed basketball forever, you got centers shooting 3 pointers now, he's definitely top ten.
"Changing the game" doesn't make any a top 10.
Being DOMINANT on both ends of the floor when it matters that's what GREATNESS is and Steph is nowhere close of being that just bec he's arguably the greatest shooter.
Like stop that!
@@Mercurial. You have a right to your opinion, in my opinion, he's an all-time great, my top 5 are Magic Johnson, Steph Curry, Michael Jordan, Tim Duncan, and Shaquille O'Neal, that's with Curry playing 2 guard, and Jordan playing small forward, it's a pretty formidable team, but opinions are like assholes, everybody has one, and others have your same opinion, but it's just not mine.
I’m not ready to go there rob parker, I don’t know what kool-aid you drinking 🥤
Yeah if they would’ve had a All-Star guy or less than an all-star in his place they would have won even without Kevin Durant they would have won three of the four I don’t know if they win in 2017 that’s a maybe but they definitely win in 2018 that means they would still have three championships. Rob is definitely hating on Curry. He has every excuse for Durant and trying to hate on Curry but doesn’t Want Chris to talk because it tears apart his argument because it’s so easily taken away and destroyed
In 2018 they almost lost to the Huston...
Without KD they lose in 2017 and 2018, if they even make it to the finals, end of discussion.
Happy to see Rob defend Lebron 😂😂😂
Lol rob and skip only defebd lebron if they are trying to diminish curry 🤣🤣🤣
@@hunterzolomon1303 exactly 😂😂😂. But happy that he admitted that Bron is far ahead of curry it shouldn't even be a debate. The only relevant debate is between MJ Bron and Kareem
You know I was in the Skip Bayless camp as far as Curry clutchness, but this one shut me up. Yes he started to go cold from 3 late but unlike other times he recognized it and made serveral clutch drives to the cup to stop the bleeding and solidify the win. A great and clutch performace by Steph Curry.
Rob Parker sounds really hurt 😂😂😂
Rob,I’m fast forwarding through your takes til your give credit where it’s due(Steph Curry).Let me know when you come around!
I'm on Robs side. however, I don't agree with his approach to this argument. Steph has 4 NBA championships (kudos to him for that) however, it hurts Steph that 3 of his titles are questionable. I mean... had Love and Irving been healthy and played in the 2015 finals. Cleveland would have most definitely won that Championship. they proved they were the better team when they humiliated this same Warriors team in the 2016 finals. I think the Warriors are a great team, but to me they lucked out when they faced and injured riddled (in the same way Toronto would later beat the Warriors) Cleveland squad 2015. then they got Durant and became unbeatable superteam for the next two seasons. so, it's hard for me to put Steph in the top 10 when 3 of his 4 titles were hardly earned. I put Steph in the top 15, but not top 10.
They were a 73 and 9 team that were up 3 to 1 against those cavs, logic would say that team was more than capable of beating them without durant. They were the better team
@@timobrien6600
"That’s a straw man’s argument for winning against injured teams because injury"
How is stating a fact a straw man argument? so you give Step credit for beating a team that did not have 2 of its three stars players? so LeBron and a bunch of role player in your opinion was a fair challenge to the Warriors? also, I get that injuries are part of the game... but at the same time you have to acknowledge that the level of competition the Warriors faced in that finals due to the Caves having those two key injuries was pretty much nonexistent by game 2. again, I can't give Steph much credit for beating a badly crippled team.
@@evantaylor1378
"They were a 73 and 9 team that were up 3 to 1 against those cavs, logic would say that team was more than capable of beating them without durant. "
The proof is in the putting. they were up 3-1 and lost the series. so, my argument is still valid. the Warriors were a great yet beatable team before Durant. and they became unbeatable with him. so, I can't give Steph much credit for those two finals he won with Durant.
"They were the better team"
Maybe in the regular season... but not in the finals. again, they were humiliated.
@@sdb7092 point is that same couldve beat the cavs, they just didnt that year, and a variety of variables were involved. They still even beat the rockets, and swept the blazers to make the finals in 2019 without KD. And were going to win that game 6 if klay didnt get hurt. And anyone who wasnt a boased fool, knew that once they got their team back...they'd be in the finals again. And now look at them. First uear theu got their team back they win.
@@evantaylor1378
"point is that same couldve beat the cavs, they just didnt that year, and a variety of variables were involved."
I'm sorry but no they couldn't. when you go up 3 games to 1 and still lose? that was pretty much meant to be. and goes to show how good the Cavs were when healthy. Like I said. had the Cavs been healthy in both series. I think they would have won both finals. I think the Warriors would have taken them to a game 7 in both series. but in the end, usually the team with the best superstar wins. and LeBron with a healthy Irving and Love would have won both series in my opinion.
"They still even beat the rockets,"
The rockets were the biggest chockers in the NBA at that time. btw, Durant played in that series. and was the best player on the Warriors during that series.
"and swept the blazers to make the finals in 2019 without KD."
The Trailblazers aren't a championship team. the Warriors should have beaten them.
"And were going to win that game 6 if klay didnt get hurt. "
Like I said before. the Raptors lucked out just like the Warriors did in 2015. and maybe you would have won game 6. but you can't deny that had Durant been healthy in that series. most likely the Warrior would be leading going into game 6... if the series even got that far at all.
"And anyone who wasnt a boased fool,knew that once they got their team back...they'd be in the finals again. And now look at them. First uear theu got their team back they win "
Not gonna lie, I though the Warriors were done (and i don't think that makes me a fool) I thought Klay wouldn't be the same player after his injuries, and with the loss of Durant. I didn't think the Warriors would be able to replace him. but the Warriors front office did a great job retooling this franchise and mixing in young talented player to go with the older veterans. however, this current championship doesn't erase the fact that Curry won 1 title by default and was second fiddle to Durant in the other two. as his team was clearly superior to any other team in the NBA at that point. so, I can't place him in top 10 list. top 15, yes... top 10? no.
most of the people have double standard when it come to steph
Thank you Chris.