The Cult of Hockey's "Pickard deserves win, but not Oilers" podcast

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  • Let's do this! The Cult of Hockey podcast. By the Faithful and for the Faithful, tonight with Bruce McCurdy and David Staples. Tonight they dig into Edmonton's 3-2 loss to the Canucks of Vancouver with their 2 Good Things, 2 Bad Things, 2 Numbers and 1 Conundrum podcast

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  • @mattymac-eq3ht
    @mattymac-eq3ht 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Hey, Canuck fan here. Just recently moved to AB, started listening here at the beginning of the series. Big fan of the show, excellent and balanced content, will continue to follow in the future. Thanks, keep up the great work!

  • @vod2222
    @vod2222 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    This was a tough one. You guys are great though! Thanks Bruce and David.

  • @darylwilliams7883
    @darylwilliams7883 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    The Oilers were the 9th place team in the league this year. I have never understood why people are treating them like cup favourites. And yes, I'm from Edmonton. There are at least half a dozen teams with a very real shot at the cup. Most of whom had better records than we did.
    Notice also that the teams which have invested a LOT of money in one or two high-skill high-scoring players are ether out or on the way out and the teams which are more balanced and have depth look to be going on.

    • @gameburn178
      @gameburn178 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It looks that way, but as a Van fan, I'd still rather have won a lottery pick or two, and if you have to pay McD and Drai more... well, that's money well spent, I think. The truth is: McD and Drai are probably underpaid relative to the second tier of players who make 3 to 8 million. The problem it turns out is the third tier players like Joshua, Aman, Soucy, Blueger, Hoglander, Suter, DiGiuseppe and of course Silovs. Scouting and coaching matters. Management is where it's at.
      You are right about one thing though: when you don't have mega stars to count on, then you try to find other ways to win. Team defense, team mentality, team accountability. I'd still rather have the mega stars, tbh, but the almost mega stars like Miller, Boeser and Hughes kind of work with the better set of 3rd tier players. Series isn't over though. And if the Oilers had not panicked over Campbell and Skinner, then they'd have had a few more resources in the summer. Resources they need right now. Panic in picking up the likes of Evander Kane and Perry isn't good either, in my opinion.

    • @roximama
      @roximama 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@gameburn178 I can promise you that you aren't going to teach us a single thing about the problems our team has. No one panicked at any point on any level. The only panic was you guys losing Demko. We knew what we had and why and we had no choice but to work with it due to cap space and the current goalie market. I might also point out that you guys have lost every other game to this team that you think is so bad. Also, our coach hasn't panicked to the point of publicly humiliating the team to get them going but yours has. You're one game up and you think you can come here trying to school us on a team that we watch closely? Pure silliness.

    • @Gameburn7-ii7mh
      @Gameburn7-ii7mh 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@roximama I was talking mostly about Vancouver, which I know better, fair enough. But as for Edmonton, they did sign Evander Kane and Corey Perry, to me that indicates desperation. Those look to be players other teams passed on probably because of possible character issues. I'm sure Kane and Perry aren't huge problems, but still, it suggests a willingness to look for help regardless of signals. As for signing Campbell? I think it was questioned at the time by Edmonton fans. To carry both Skinner and Campbell seemed to suggest a worry about goal. And too much money on a pair of questionable players.
      Re: Tocchet. He calls players out sometimes; he's done this for years and we've seen it here this year a few times. Coaches don't have a lot of leverage other than playing time, so coaches do comment on their players sometimes. I'm not sure I like it, but neither the players nor management seem to be too upset with it.
      I'm sorry if I sounded like a know-it-all. It is a very small game sample to generalize about. I don't see Edmonton panicking during the series, I'm just suggesting that some mistakes were made by management that are hurting them now. Normal problem for any team including the Canucks. (We have a list of odd decisions reaching back years, lol.)

    • @roximama
      @roximama 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Gameburn7-ii7mh It's all about the mess Chiarelli left us. We definitely have some bad contracts that have years left on them. It was the whole panic thing that got me typing there. This has been a long and painful issue for us and the days of panic are years behind us. Desperation? Yes. Panic? No. lol Here's the thing though. Desperation definitely wins cups and panic loses them. So maybe Tocc's move was more desperation than panic and we're just quibbling on words here. It's all good. It's only hockey. lol

  • @liveandlearn11
    @liveandlearn11 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I love your podcast boys! I learn so much about the game. Thank you for what you do so well. Vancouver is mean, tough and hungry. They won my respect last night. They play with the same heart and personality as their coach. They knocked us all over the ice and they figured out our powerplay. Like Bruce said around 33:14, " You need some kind of emotional boost at this point cause they look spent."

  • @RememberMe123-b4b
    @RememberMe123-b4b 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Just dawned on me...David must be a tough guy to live with. Everything in life has to be perfect ...got news for him.
    HOLY SH*T!!!...did he not see?...the gwg goal went off Petey's skate for Pete's sake!
    Not sure if David realizes, hockey is not a perfect game. IT'S A FAST FKN GAME....STUFF HAPPENS!! ( 2nd Oilers goal... what was Soucy doing to make it a 2 on 1....no mention of that)...just negativity on Oilers side.
    They'll win the next 2
    GO OILERS GO.

  • @chrisg1556
    @chrisg1556 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    This is what happens when you play 3 guy's for half the game. The big boys are exhausted. Bad coaching and lack of depth are killing them. Cant play guy's nearly 30 minutes a game for 3 straight and expect them to srill have legs late in a series.

    • @liamlaursen-williams5879
      @liamlaursen-williams5879 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      its not depth thier 4th line was the best line on the team thier best players stunk and they lost.

    • @garysharp3841
      @garysharp3841 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Your comment shows you know nothing about hockey

  • @trevorwiazek5594
    @trevorwiazek5594 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    How can the oilers bottom 6 get any experience if they dont play, canucks rolling 4 lines even at the end of games holding a lead.

  • @NightHawk1870
    @NightHawk1870 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Canucks a team not even supposed to make the playoffs, is now one win away from Western Conference Final against the Oilers with world class players who are Stanley Cup favourites. Just wow.

    • @v.j.1017
      @v.j.1017 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Canucks are not to be doubted. Regular season showed their capabilities. They are deeeeep

    • @garysharp3841
      @garysharp3841 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You are so wrong wow

  • @dj9savy
    @dj9savy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I think they can come back. It is unfortunate that the goaltending wasn’t there earlier in the series when the rest of the oilers were playing better. But I’m sure this won’t be repeated on Saturday

  • @superdelicioustaco
    @superdelicioustaco 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    When I saw the Canucks lineup changes it was like wow they're deep. It's likely over now that Pettersson is clicking

    • @wc1957
      @wc1957 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Ok Canuck homer
      This series is likely going to 7

    • @wc1957
      @wc1957 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Lol Perimeter Pete isn't clicking

    • @v.j.1017
      @v.j.1017 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mikheyev and Lafferty and demko out.

    • @dougcook1176
      @dougcook1176 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    • @garysharp3841
      @garysharp3841 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wow were you ever wrong

  • @nomadman123
    @nomadman123 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    It all started when they gave game 1 away. You’re right about them finding ways to lose. It’s a real bummer but that’s the identity of this team. They over used their top guys and it might have worked if they could have won the series 4-1 but too many squandered opportunities and mostly poor goaltending. I’m not very confident they can win the next two. I didn’t notice Hyman at all tonight and 29 & 97 were held in check. After game 4 and the 1st period tonight I thought they were cup contenders.

  • @wl9399
    @wl9399 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    McDavid must have lost quite a lot of weight. At the post game interview, he looked unwell.

  • @Ace96x10
    @Ace96x10 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Wasted Pickards Vezna type performance. The best start of the playoffs, and then 2 periods of 2 steps behind, scrambley ineptitude highlighted by the constant ability to turn an ill conceived clearing attempt into a great setup pass for the Canuckles. It's not like this was close and could have gone either way. Without Pickard this would have been a blowout. It's just baffling. I find it very hard to have a lot of faith in a team that just keeps finding ways to make it far harder then it need be and can throw their goalie to the wolves like that. Worst loss of the year. This game is a 700 foot tall Poop Shroom🍄

  • @Squishysforbreakfast
    @Squishysforbreakfast 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The bigger decision is who is going to be in the lineup for next game.
    Gagner might be alright, maybe just for the fans. If he has a great night but it still ends in a loss, older fans will have something to smile about.
    Pickard earned the starter position this series and if they make it to another, Skinner will be on a short leash.
    Im thinking there's a bug going around the locker room. The big guns seemed out of it. And theres a rumor that the flu hit them.
    Urgency needs to be established, a never say die attitude, and no letting up.
    They can answer back. And they can win the series. Its just a matter of how bad do they want it.

    • @OilFan702
      @OilFan702 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The "bug" is they were played too much and it has caught up to them

    • @Squishysforbreakfast
      @Squishysforbreakfast 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @OilFan702 Yeah, they seemed really out of it, though. Like brain fog and no extra step.

    • @AlphaPrimeYT-Transformers
      @AlphaPrimeYT-Transformers 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just FYI canuck players are sick too. Playoffs are tough..whoever had the will, wins at the end of the day.

    • @Squishysforbreakfast
      @Squishysforbreakfast 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AlphaPrimeYT-Transformers fair point, they didn't look themselves is all.

  • @marcosorbetti7639
    @marcosorbetti7639 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Bruce you didn't wear the turtle island shirt so we lost

  • @queretaromexico
    @queretaromexico 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Canucks were underestimated from day 1 and Canucks are deeper and more balanced

    • @Gameburn7-ii7mh
      @Gameburn7-ii7mh 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Some of the Oilers look a bit tired. Then again: some of the Canucks D looked exhausted toward the end of the previous game -- Hronek in particular. The next game will be interesting.

    • @garysharp3841
      @garysharp3841 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Vancouver is flukey most nights

  • @TH-tl6sy
    @TH-tl6sy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I don't like Knoblauch, never have. You don't hire an inexperience 1st time coach for a contender. He's been outcoached since before the puck dropped on the season.
    I credit Coffey for the turn around on the defense.
    He's not rolling 4 lines. The fatigue in this one on the top lines were apparent. The bottom 6 are hungry and more physical. Perry's not doing much. Gagner is sitting in the press box. He can make plays is smart defensively. Always been pretty clutch. I would trust sammy in the bottom six to give this team a spark more than perry right now.

  • @MADDESONCOUTTS-u7g
    @MADDESONCOUTTS-u7g 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Also thank you Mr Staples for your background photo. Definitely the 2nd best part of every Oilers game 🤣

  • @ceecam4853
    @ceecam4853 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The positives our stars bring are often less than the negatives they tow behind on many nights. Tonight was one of those nights.

  • @user-lx4uk5un7s
    @user-lx4uk5un7s 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Jim Rutherford is a genius, we need a GM who prioritizes players who are relentless on the puck, playoff performers and not top talent

  • @dalriada
    @dalriada 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    They just have fewer passengers than we do. They’re the better team and the only way we get past them is if they implode somehow.

    • @justinhammy8949
      @justinhammy8949 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fewer passengers? Mcdavid (greatest on earth) was invisible, powerplay was useless. 5v5 goal was scored by 4th line. This isn’t passengers, this is mcdavids isn’t tough and guys like jt miller and mark stone make him cry and tuck his tail between his legs.

  • @kimomann1
    @kimomann1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Good title David and Bruce

  • @r0ckstarc0p40
    @r0ckstarc0p40 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Game 4 oilers matched Canucks physically. The goaltending let oilers down early. Pickard should not have been their starter but he’s played well. The Oilers are soft, plain and simple. Holland let Bjugstad and Kostin go. They won’t play Carrick, it was a poor trade deadline and good riddance to Ken Holland. They are losing right now today because they are getting bullied around physically. I knew this would happen, it always happens with this team when they lose physical players. They should take out Perry and Ryan and insert Carrick and Gagner. I’d bet they are hungry and will play like it.

  • @flytheskymyway
    @flytheskymyway 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How do you feel? “Oddly resigned”😞 What a hot mess the second and third period was. Canucks were relentless. Pickard was peppered.

  • @gordtulk
    @gordtulk 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Canucks the better team.
    Oilers three main weaknesses remain: depth physicality and defense.

    • @justinhammy8949
      @justinhammy8949 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Explain depth to me?? 4th line scored and didn’t give up a goal? This is all on mc-no show and Leon sad-siatl. Invisible. Defense. Yes. Toughness, of course ( Nuge and Connor or soft as baby 💩) can’t have both on same line.

    • @GreenBeanGreenBean
      @GreenBeanGreenBean 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@justinhammy8949 that happens when you play McD/Drai 30 minutes a game for 3-4 straight games.... they are gassed and done.... only effective for the first quarter of each period.

    • @justinhammy8949
      @justinhammy8949 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GreenBeanGreenBean so if they played 26 min all the sudden they would be able to compete? 24? 23.5? Like I get what you’re saying but that was embarrassing. McKinnon plays close to that and he would NEVER no show like that in a playoff game.

    • @justinhammy8949
      @justinhammy8949 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GreenBeanGreenBean should be a great game for them sat as they all took the night off I guess

    • @gordtulk
      @gordtulk 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@justinhammy8949 the exception proves the rule.
      Look at ice time a scoring reliance on the stars. Heaviest reliance in the league.

  • @MADDESONCOUTTS-u7g
    @MADDESONCOUTTS-u7g 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bouchards giveaway sealed our fate. We were absolutely useless after that. Holloway was the only one with any give out there. Pickard was incredible. Boys looked gassed and had little to no output after the first period. Other than the one goal, Nuge's offense has been dreadful. Ceci continues to ceci, nurse continues to nurse.

  • @MADDESONCOUTTS-u7g
    @MADDESONCOUTTS-u7g 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fully agree with your assessment of Perry. He's been such a major letdown. The "grizzled playoff vet" is just slow and sloppy. One or two decent plays per game that never result in anything. Not even a 4th liner - too slow.

  • @debrajames-robichaud3535
    @debrajames-robichaud3535 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Tired of getting out coached

  • @fontainefitness5698
    @fontainefitness5698 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Canucks have shown they just want it more. They deserve the series.

    • @garysharp3841
      @garysharp3841 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How do you feel now. You were completely wrong

  • @nbarealtalker
    @nbarealtalker 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was at the game. This title was exactly what I felt after 40 mins.

  • @epiphany519
    @epiphany519 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Long post follows. Read / Don't Read up to you. Statistics for Round 2 Playoff Game 5 Edmonton at Vancouver May 16th, 2025. These are "Base" statistics not the detailed ones the Cult of Hockey compiles and are simply a foundation for reference.
    Edmonton Oilers
    Kane 1 Goal
    Janmark 1 Goal
    Draisaitl 1 Primary Assist
    Desharnais 1 Secondary Assist
    Brown 1 Primary Assist
    Kulak 1 Secondary Assist
    Pickard 32 Saves on 35 Shots = .914 Save %age
    Vancouver Canucks
    Soucy 1 Goal
    Di Giuseppe 1 Goal
    Miller 1 Goal
    Lindholm 1 Primary Assist
    Pettersson 1 Secondary Assist
    Silovs 21 Saves on 23 Shots = .913 Save %age
    3 Stars: Hughes (played 25 minutes), Pettersson (1 Assist), Miller (1 Goal, GWG)
    Edmonton Vancouver
    Shots on Goal 23 35
    Hits 20 42
    Faceoffs Won 27 36
    PP 0/5 0/4
    Giveaways 9 (6 per NST) 6 (8 per NST)
    Takeaways 6 (4 per NST) 3 (2 per NST)
    Blocked Shots 18 (12 per NST) 18 (13 per NST)
    Player TOI SOG +/- PIM Hits Blocks Giveaways Takeaways
    Bouchard 25:44 1 -2 0 1 0 2 1
    Ceci 19:44 1 1 0 3 3 0 1
    Nurse 19:05 1 -1 0 1 1 0 0
    Ekholm 18:12 2 -1 0 0 1 0 1
    Desharnais 15:37 0 0 0 3 4 0 0
    Kulak 15:31 0 1 2 1 3 1 0
    McDavid 23:25 2 -2 0 2 0 1 1
    Draisaitl 23:20 2 -2 0 0 0 0 0
    Hyman 20:52 2 -2 2 2 0 0 0
    Nuge 20:42 0 0 0 1 1 0 0
    Kane 15:54 2 0 3 1 0 0 0
    McLeod 14:28 1 0 0 1 0 0 0
    Holloway 12:10 2 1 0 4 4 0 0
    Ryan 9:46 1 1 0 0 0 0 0
    Foegele 9:45 1 0 2 1 0 1 0
    Janmark 9:41 2 1 2 0 0 0 0
    Brown 9:19 1 1 0 0 1 0 0
    Perry 7:11 2 -1 0 0 0 1 0
    Oilers Faceoffs Won Lost Percent
    Draisaitl 8 13 38.1
    McLeod 7 7 50.0
    McDavid 7 7 50.0
    Ryan 5 8 38.5
    Brown 0 1 0.00
    Canucks Faceoffs Won Lost Percent
    Miller 14 7 66.7
    Lindholm 10 9 52.6
    Blueger 4 7 36.4
    Aman 4 1 80.0
    Pettersson 3 3 50.0
    Joshua 1 0 100.0
    Vancouver now leads the series 3 games to 2. I couldn't watch or listen to the game. I'm actually home now but we had a scheduled power outage between 9 PM and 3 AM so no game, no nothing (sigh). I mean even sports bars were shut down due to power disruption. Going just from the stats Vancouver shot more, hit a LOT more (more than double), and won a lot more faceoffs. Neither team's PP was firing but PK's were both 100%. The rest was basically irrelevant and the level of stats I post. The goal with 33 seconds to go by Miller sealed the deal for a Canucks win. As near as I can tell Pickard played great but the rest of the team didn't. Oilers must now win the next 2 games to move on to round 3. Take care all.

  • @jasonb9152
    @jasonb9152 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There’s a reason why we tried to get a D-men at the deadline.
    Further, I thought McDavid andDraisaitl looked tired- McDavid was awful & Draisaitl lost several face off. That is likely a result of Skinner playing so poorly, and overplaying our top players earlier in the series, where we should’ve already been up 3 to 1.
    Finally, Tocchet taking criticism for calling out his players, while our coach did the exact opposite. Look at the results.

  • @brothercaptainxuul784
    @brothercaptainxuul784 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Last time I checked, Goaltenders are a team member, so the old " we outplayed them..except for our goalie...thats not a great cope guys.
    The arrogance of the edmonton takes continues, when you lose the game, you didnt outplay the other team. Everything else is cope.
    You know what the Canucks have that the Oilers don't? Mental toughness.
    When it goes bad for you guys, you fall to pieces mentally, make excuses, the Canucks have the mental edge.
    We have had the same mindset all year.

  • @user-bi6yf4hv9g
    @user-bi6yf4hv9g 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This game was ours but we p!$$%d it away! Early lead. Brown great opportunity missed, "3" shots on "5 PPs", massive brain fart by Bouchard, and bad change and confusion at the bench on winning goal cost us this game. I dont buy into the "OILERS ARE TIRED" mentality. Canucks should be tired too!? If only we capitalized on all our opportunities in the 1st period? we easily win the game! We just needed to bare down and score on those opportunities, and then hang on the rest of the game, exhausted or not! Going into next game, and beyond, how well the coach manages the lines is gonna be key! ..... Imo, last night the 3rd & 4th line were playing really good (exception Cory Perry) and especially the 4th line, these lines should've been given more ice so our stars didn't have to play so much. The Coach needs to solve this issue for the next game. The plan should be to try and score early a couple goals or so and make the 3rd /4th lines play more, especially in the 2nd period where Vancouver seems to start owning the game and have their way! In the 3rd period, the stars can be used more heavily to control the play and put the Canucks away! Anyway, this should be the strategy imo.. Lastly, Perry should be benched!. Its bad enough we are getting hemmed in and hes TOO SLOW to help out! Its like its a PP when he's out there! Put Carrick or Gags in! 😡☹

    • @GreenBeanGreenBean
      @GreenBeanGreenBean 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Canucks forwards play 20 minutes a game..... Oilers top line were clocking 30 minutes for 3 straight games, this one still 25 minutes. McD/Drai are 100% gassed, only effective at the start of periods/start of game, then fade fast.
      Only reason Oilers looked 'zomg amazing' the first few games was from triple shifting their top line.

  • @MSmith-cp1tz
    @MSmith-cp1tz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Something tht doesnt get mentioned is the Canucks grinding big defencemen. Zadorov, Soucy and Myers are so hard on the puck and throw their considerable bidy weight in their D zone. Its like a meat grinder along the boards. McD and Drais are struggling 5 on 5.
    .

    • @garysharp3841
      @garysharp3841 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      These 3 dirty players helped to lose the series

  • @roximama
    @roximama 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I can't help but think that it's time to stop blaming everyone else for McDavid's not winning a cup yet. I think his own play is a part of the problem and he has things to work out before he's going to get it. I still have some hope that it will be this year but honestly, my hopes aren't high this year for the same reasons David expressed.

  • @omalleysmith9100
    @omalleysmith9100 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Definitely swap out Foegele for Henrique. He's a total head case at this point. Go with Pickard again, as he's the only one giving them a chance to win. I'm also in favor of swapping out Perry for Gagne. They are now desperate.

  • @tman6663
    @tman6663 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They said ‘cup or bust’ and put that pressure on themselves and then play like that in the biggest game of season so far!?? Just brutal!
    Yes..Knobs overplayed them early, but 0-5 on the pp on the road, wtf!?
    Picks was fantastic..again! What a frikin waste of a stellar playoff performance!
    This ain’t over, but if they play like that again at home.. it will be

  • @brendafox8163
    @brendafox8163 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ve come to expect the oilers to poop the bed in the 2nd period of their games, regular season and playoffs 😢

  • @tomharrison6607
    @tomharrison6607 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    i and a lot of people were on bouchard's bandwagon he was playing pretty damn good and then tonight on that play coming out from behind the net he reverted back to the nonchalant and casual evan bouchard

    • @dalriada
      @dalriada 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Worse than Foegele’s giveaway.

    • @v.j.1017
      @v.j.1017 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hughes Norris

  • @cjlb49
    @cjlb49 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I put the blame for the GWG solely on Bouchard and McDavid. Maybe Ekholm's line change was bad, but Nurse had a good position on Pettersson, and Bouchard had good position and pressure on Lindholm but HE BACKED OFF. So, Nurse had to switch guys, which meant he was a step behind. Then Bouchard had bad coverage on Pettersson. Then McDavid's backcheck....oh man, he had no wheels all night.

    • @GreenBeanGreenBean
      @GreenBeanGreenBean 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      kinda happens when McD played 30 minutes for 3 straight games and his reduced minutes was still 25 this game...... most Canucks are 20 minutes or less.

    • @cjlb49
      @cjlb49 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GreenBeanGreenBean he played close to 30 minutes in games 2 and 3 only. And one of those games included OT. Yes, he plays a lot, but point to a time in his career that he hasn't played a lot.
      Last night was just a bad game for him.

  • @blainerouault3907
    @blainerouault3907 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Series isn't over but it's probably time to look at some uncomfortable truths.
    Edmonton is a top heavy all-star team that has to overplay their stars to be competitive. McDavid, Drai, Bouchard, Hyman - they're tired because they play way too much. In the third last night they were noticeable absent, Vancouver dominated.
    Could be a blessing or a curse that Edmonton plays in the weakest div in hockey. They don't need a total overhaul but they badly need some depth. If they didn't get LA (and then the worst series a goalie has had in recent memory in 2022 - Markstrom) every year they'd look like the Leafs.
    With Drai's contract only a year away it's time to start having serious conversations. (I am aware that Nurse's contract isn't his fault).
    Is Drai more valuable than work ethic and a winning mentality? It doesn't feel to me like they can have both.

  • @TripleR_Sings
    @TripleR_Sings 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    RE: Game Winning Goal What do you think about Hyman skating quickly to intercept the streaking Miller, but then he did like a dead stop and let Miller continue in...I know he saw McDavid, but McDavid had his back to Miller and the captain was too late to defend once he noticed which costed us the goal and the game...should Hyman have stayed with Miller with only 30 seconds to go?

  • @ianjackson3346
    @ianjackson3346 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Perry's been weight, it's unfortunate, but true. Bouchard wasn't awake tonight

  • @alfernken
    @alfernken 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    David gives the Canucks zero respect . That team works hard and plays like a team.

    • @garysharp3841
      @garysharp3841 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Vancouver can't score except flukey

  • @user-lx4uk5un7s
    @user-lx4uk5un7s 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oilers are the cowboys - find ways to lose despite having two of the best players in the world for 9 years.

  • @Thynqikan
    @Thynqikan 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    is rumors I am hearing: flu bug, Drai has broken ribs. Those are just excuses but somehow their energy level needs to be improved as they looked slow and tired compared to Vancouver in game 5. Canucks have also adjusted and solved the Oilers powerplay, giving Edmonton 5 power plays they should have score on 1-2 of those (which makes the game a win) but went 0/5 as the Canucks have adjusted taking away the bottom corner cycle.

    • @AlphaPrimeYT-Transformers
      @AlphaPrimeYT-Transformers 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      FYI pettersson has the flu and canucks have injuries as well. It's a close series though..gonna go down to the wire

  • @stevea8201
    @stevea8201 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hyman been a ghost after starting so strong

  • @MyHappy002
    @MyHappy002 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oilers are done like toast. I hope I'm wrong.

  • @toddashton9696
    @toddashton9696 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Conner was not Conner last night. He looked tired and worn down. No lack of effort but he did not dominate as usual. Zero for 5 on the power play was a big factor. The first unit did not have their usual ability to generate good chances.
    Calvin was pretty good in net but, I would fault him on the first 2 goals. Somehow he does not pick up the shot from the point (which was not particularly hard) on the first goal. On the second he simply needs to be in his butterfly on the post, but is moving too soon and opens the five hole very wide of a soft backhand to go through.

  • @tomkennelly7393
    @tomkennelly7393 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What happened the oilers were out hit,no energy in the big line ,some thing is up with McDavid, tonight also the power lost the game 0 for 5 for the big line,it looked like a burned out big line

    • @tomkennelly7393
      @tomkennelly7393 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Power play also did not show up brutal

    • @tomkennelly7393
      @tomkennelly7393 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      McDavid the quarter back was completely off on the power play, and the rest fell flat on there faces

    • @tomkennelly7393
      @tomkennelly7393 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The 1st game against Vancouver was where edmonton lost the momentum 4 to 1 lead and then went to bed

  • @terryprost2165
    @terryprost2165 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Play Broberg / trade Ceci and Nurse for one good dude next season !!!

  • @OilFan702
    @OilFan702 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Another playoffs but same story. Outgoalied (skinner) , outcoached, and lack of depth scoring. Watch the round against Vegas last year for some deja vu

  • @cuongphan2020
    @cuongphan2020 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Stay away from the box . checking and back checking . First ten min . don't turn over the puck .Play 60 min key of the winning game . I DON'T THINK OILER GO THIS FAR .... BUT, OILER COULD GO ALL THE WAY. LET GO OILER .

  • @audiquagaming
    @audiquagaming 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Go watch the vegas elimination of last year.. same shit

  • @niceasmd9890
    @niceasmd9890 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Re: Pickard playing three good games in a row - Silovs seems to be doing that...

  • @chadnygaard740
    @chadnygaard740 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bruce why did you not wear your turtle 🐢 shirt!!!!!!!!

  • @stephenbarradell4043
    @stephenbarradell4043 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Broberg to 3 line wing.

  • @Apex1000snow
    @Apex1000snow 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    JT miller set MCD on the deck in the starting face off, That was not a good sign! tough loss. Great game Pic!

  • @MarkR1111
    @MarkR1111 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    JT MILLER!! JT MILLER!! JT MILLER!!

  • @user-lx4uk5un7s
    @user-lx4uk5un7s 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Canucks will win the series, neither team has won b2b games, I don’t see that happening now

  • @darrelladams4886
    @darrelladams4886 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I heard a rumour there’s illness running through a few guys in the room right now. Heresy of course but might explain why so many fell flat

  • @jayb5071
    @jayb5071 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Next game is simple take perry out is to slow .Is a L4 player on sanjose anaheim Chicago not on playoffs in second round team.

  • @TonyWhelanSLIDES
    @TonyWhelanSLIDES 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pickard deserved better. Might need to play at least 2 games of fire wagon hockey. Knob tactical error on Nurse/Ceci on ice last minute.

  • @MrCoda47
    @MrCoda47 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I find this to be comical everyone saying how the Oilers are the better team that's a joke the oilers are a one trick pony. They have a couple guys that supposedly are the best in the hockey world. The problem with that this is a team game and the Canucks are the better team and I repeat team.

    • @sublimemediocrity
      @sublimemediocrity 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You want to try that again in English?

    • @GreenBeanGreenBean
      @GreenBeanGreenBean 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@sublimemediocrity translated: Oilers have 2 great players, Canucks have 24 players better than their Oiler equivalent.

    • @MrCoda47
      @MrCoda47 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@sublimemediocrity what you can't read?

    • @dougcook1176
      @dougcook1176 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    • @garysharp3841
      @garysharp3841 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You were so wrong

  • @thekiltedzombie8230
    @thekiltedzombie8230 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If the big guns tanks have hit E we are in serious trouble. We let the Canucks win some games they should not have, they did not award us in kind. Perry should not be in the lineup, but if you are of the belief that he still provides veteran savvy you certainly don't put him on the wing with your two fastest skaters. The sad truth is he's probably in the lineup because your only replacements are Carrick, Gags, or Erne certainly not the same depth as Nucks.

  • @kikiknojj
    @kikiknojj 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Take out McLeod over Foegele.

  • @RickL_was_here
    @RickL_was_here 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Embarrassing, to say the least. We FINALLY get a goalie to hold the fort and the rest of the fuckin team shits the bed. Oh, and they're playing with the physicality of a Peewee team.... I said before the playoffs started, we were going to miss Kostin and Bjugstad. Sure as shit.
    If they want to end the season Saturday (certainly not playing anywhere near good enough to win), stick in Skinner.
    Feel like I'm watching the Leafs.

  • @shrubbber_8
    @shrubbber_8 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    JT Miller JT Miller, JT Miller JT Miller JT Miller JT Miller JT Miller JT Miller JT Miller JT Miller

  • @CS97660
    @CS97660 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I hope drai doesnt sign in july. Force this team to move on. Its not working with the best friend duo. Pathetic vancouver is about to tie us for our most successful playoff series in Davos time here lmao

    • @kamibains7259
      @kamibains7259 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It’s not over yet you pussy

    • @TH-tl6sy
      @TH-tl6sy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Lol really? One of the best Playoff performers Six 100+ seasons in a row. And it's not working?
      Bizarre comment.
      Skinner gave away 2 games. Bad bounces. This was the 1st game they didn't deserve the win.

    • @CS97660
      @CS97660 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @TH-tl6sy oh so we should keep running it back like Toronto?
      2017 lost in the second round
      2020 lost to Chicago in the 1st
      2021 Sept by the Jets in the 1st
      2022 swept by the Avs in the 3rd
      2023 lost in 6 to the Knights in the 2nd.
      What a failure of a franchise after drafting 1 1 1 7 3 1 4 in 7 years LMAO

    • @TH-tl6sy
      @TH-tl6sy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CS97660 you were dropped on your head weren't you?

    • @kamibains7259
      @kamibains7259 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CS97660 the Avs failed before they won so did Tampa you clown

  • @kitties8883
    @kitties8883 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Oilers are broken, shown as the frauds they are.
    Lost to a THIRD string goalie
    No depth
    One line team

    • @audiquagaming
      @audiquagaming 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly bro I’m with you

    • @audiquagaming
      @audiquagaming 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      And Edm has never had a first string goalie since Roloson 😂

    • @GR-bn3xj
      @GR-bn3xj 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      One line and one incredible power play. But if you can stop that power play, or just keep it to one goal, they can be beaten

    • @deregerm
      @deregerm 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      settle down karen

    • @dougcook1176
      @dougcook1176 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

  • @ianjackson3346
    @ianjackson3346 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cece's still trying to make clears and plays up the boards that aren't there

  • @christopherzwicker6509
    @christopherzwicker6509 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It’s a wrap IMO

    • @garysharp3841
      @garysharp3841 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Your opinion is wrong

  • @67Star65
    @67Star65 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ... Cup or Bust? BUST!!!

  • @arkatheistcc2353
    @arkatheistcc2353 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Canucks were alway the better team this year. Oilers have 1 line, no defence or goaltending. And all the pressure is on them. Canucks win or lose its been a great year. But saying the Oilers should be up 3-1? Wow what bias.

    • @garysharp3841
      @garysharp3841 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Your opinion is worth nothing

    • @arkatheistcc2353
      @arkatheistcc2353 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@garysharp3841 kinda like you as a person, not worth anything.

  • @DibsEquipped
    @DibsEquipped 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The next 2 games are only gonna be won if Jesus and Drai score a 1000 goals.

    • @garysharp3841
      @garysharp3841 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You were wrong

  • @BmacT
    @BmacT 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Perry can't dress next game he absolutely useless out there

  • @ragnaraxelson59
    @ragnaraxelson59 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Carrick should have been playing instead of Perry. What a terrible signing.

  • @liamlaursen-williams5879
    @liamlaursen-williams5879 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mcdavid has had alot of off nights these playoffs he has stunk these playoffs

  • @TH-tl6sy
    @TH-tl6sy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    David needs to relax on the Broberg business. He's yet to prove himself at the NHL level.
    You have this tendency to think guys in Bakersfield are the next big thing. Your love affair with Tyler Benson being the answer just proved to be embarrassing.

  • @bennywurz2995
    @bennywurz2995 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    McDavid is a scared 😱 jack rabbit 🐇

  • @brockknudsen
    @brockknudsen 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If someone told me that half the team went out for beer to celebrate Perry's birthday and showed up drunk it would make more sense than the insanity of our 6 best players barely present. Vancouver is only a better team when we let them be. Staggering to see a must win game with that poor a showing from so many players.

    • @GreenBeanGreenBean
      @GreenBeanGreenBean 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oilers are only a better team when they triple shift the all-star line lol.... Canucks better everywhere else.... and it shows.

    • @blainerouault3907
      @blainerouault3907 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Edmonton is not a better team than Vancouver. McDavid is exhausted because he plays too much and he plays too much because after Edmonton's first line and first defensive pairing the Oilers aren't even a playoff team.
      It's tragic but true.

    • @daveg-Vancouver_Island
      @daveg-Vancouver_Island 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bahhahahahshha oilers lost all 4 games against the Canucks this regular season and your sittin here saying they’re the better team??? Lmfao!! Not only are you losing with our 3rd string goalie in net but you only have 2 awesome players and Hyman who’s a great player, Canucks have 3 strong lines and a good 4th, give your head a shake bud!!

  • @shrubbber_8
    @shrubbber_8 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You guys are one of the oldest teams in the NHL. There’s not much time for fixing it.

  • @petetr4448
    @petetr4448 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cup or bust, looks like bust.

    • @garysharp3841
      @garysharp3841 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wrong must be cup

  • @AP-ve6nh
    @AP-ve6nh 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Oilers should have been up 3 1" LOL. What a clown. Game 1 they had 16 shots. Game 3 shots were even till you went down 3 1. A team down multiple goals twice is expected to push. You guys are delusional like the rest of the fans. Be great when the oil are eliminated.

    • @garysharp3841
      @garysharp3841 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How does it feel to be so wrong

  • @jagjitparhar214
    @jagjitparhar214 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Let’s talk about that Charging call on Pettersson. And McDavid diving on that Joshua call. Plus the 4 posts. Please put skinner back in.

  • @aartidevi4499
    @aartidevi4499 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    More whining crybabies…. Really????

    • @garysharp3841
      @garysharp3841 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Who's crying now

  • @saldurante538
    @saldurante538 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Here we go conner must be hurt. The oilers are a joke of an organization

    • @dougcook1176
      @dougcook1176 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    • @garysharp3841
      @garysharp3841 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The joke is in your mirror