Ok but fr, I understand Brittney's viewpoint and what she's trying to get at as someone who has been a fangirl since a very young age but as an adult, I agree with Noel. There should always be boundaries between artists & fans.
as a girl with an older brother and male cousins, this is exactly how conversations go when i try to talk to them about fangirl shit. i hear how ridiculous i sound sometimes and laugh with them and other times they get it. a fine line of sibling bonding.
i never used to see a problem with matty doing this on stage but when brittany mentions how like his whole fanbase (me included, admittedly) has been with him since they were like 13 its…. it doesn’t sound great LMAO
@@dawnnn444 there’s still a power dynamic in that he has the social hierarchy on his side, it’s a bad place where an artist can take advantage of people
For real it’s like he’s on some kind of ego power trip. Like any other celebrity with mature/healthy adult relationships in their lives would not be messing around with FANS like that…
@@harrietmcclouddd had someone reply to me saying “the girls volunteer” and I’m talking in circles to say “that doesn’t make it better he shouldn’t be asking for volunteers!”
It’s very normal for a young fan to fantasize about making out or hooking up with a celebrity. That’s not the issue. The issue is that it’s the celebrity’s responsibility to not abuse their power to exploit vulnerable young fans. Britany is seeing this from the perspective of a fan, Noel is talking from the perspective of the public figure.
@@ca.lunaaait has nothing to do with that, it’s the power dynamic of celebrity and fan and that yes they’re so willing to kiss him but maybe he shouldn’t be taking advantage of that willingness that exists because of his fame, so to speak
@@vanessamilton8235idk how are the fans 'used' in this situation, they wanted that kiss, they got it, they're happy. I don't think heely even needs these kisses
@@tattva_jnanait’s transactional in a way. The fan gets to cross the parasocial barrier and do something pseudo romantic with someone they admire and the celeb gets validated in whatever subconscious way and gets some shock value content to keep their name in the media. I think it’s kinda off and feels like sanitized s€x work. It’s the same creepy vibe I get when attractive cosplayers/models/sex workers go to conventions and take a looot of money from their fans to take suggestive photos with them. It’s an unnatural human encounter. In my mind, it’s not just the celeb being creepy, but whoever actually takes the bait and is so ready to sexualize a perfect stranger. It is dehumanizing in the lens that celebrities are often deified and pedestaled so the power they have over their fans is an abnormal relationship. Celebrities aren’t your friends/potential romantic partners…they’re just someone to project on, scream in their face at and ask a photo from. Once you start an interaction with screaming and crying in a celebs face, you’ve ruined any hope for a normal friendship/relationship. I don’t get how anyone can feel good with such artificial interactions. I’d feel discouraged if I liked someone’s music for awhile and my first interaction was ‘stand on this mark, Matty’s going to kiss you at this time stamp and the security guard will whisk you away’ You’re just some faceless fan used for a bit and forgotten before Matty feels his hangover.
I've given Noel shit before about being way to aggressive but the way he stands his ground against Britany defending Mattie's grooming is very commendable.
I'm not convinced this is definitively grooming. But there is definitely an issue of abusing power imbalances here. I do wish Noel chose his words more carefully because people are already confused on what grooming means these days.
@@smurfette_blues7922I think he was trying to highlight the power imbalance and how it is somewhat similar to grooming bc these people have been into this celebrity since they were young teens
It’s wild to have a woman saying “but it’s ok because these young girls want it,” and for a cishet guy to be the one saying “no it’s grooming.” Lmao what is happening here. I’m so sorry Britany, you took the L on this one
I totally get where they're both coming from for sure, but man it's such a slippery slope. I am glad that Noel sees the problem side of it and clearly Brittany does too, but it is different through a fan's eyes.
I am glad they posted this clip, I really wanted to hear more opinions about this specifically from the pod. The way people are so equally divided in how this is either creepy/a power trip or a bit. But the opposing views are very interesting to read
I love Brittney but I think anyone w that perspective abt the whole Matty Healy thing is wildly out of touch like he is kissing his fans that is so creepy what?? how is it a bit if he's literally just doing it sober??
If you have to consistently check IDs I think that' should be enough for you to not engage in whatever weird behaviour you're about to do. Dazzled fans will go along with alot of things because they're star struck and in love with the music. And seems they're all incredibly young too so can't be that well informed about what it means when a singer sucks your thumb...or kisses you. What's the limit? Can he do anything to his fans and it'd just allowed because it's matty healy," it's a bit!" Come on. Just another man getting his rocks off right in front of everyone because he can.
Why is everyone in this comment section acting like this is something he imposes on others against their will? If he's "getting his rocks off in front of everyone" then so it the person he is doing it with (which, as mentioned, majority of their fans are adults), because they are both consenting adults sharing a singular moment. People are blowing this WAY out of proportion. Its a fucking kiss lol
@@Honehe it doesn’t matter if it’s “just a kiss” and that “the fans wanted it”, it’s an obvious abuse of power. Some people here are just too obsessed with Matty Healy to understand why his actions are wrong, because they wish it was them who he was kissing.
LMAOOOOO this debate tour I would buy tickets and roll in the venue floor crying laughing. Brittany is really braver than any troops for trying, and that’s coming from a fellow 1975 fan.
I can’t believe how many fans are behind him on the kissing shit when they’d be canceling literally anyone else doing it…it’s still creepy 😬 Idc if he checks for ID’s he’s still taking advantage of his fans…like that argument of “it’s ok because he’s giving them what they want and NOW they’re of age” sounds like it could just be used for victim blaming against girls in other situations with celebrities/SA or other power dynamics…thank god Cody and Noel find it weird asf
Its utterly outrageous. Seems like the fans are brainwashed or just dazzled by his talent so they ignore the weird behaviour. Like if this man was unattractive n not so popular musically it'd be a whole different story. Its so odd
And how is he even checking IDs? And isn't it a bit of a reality check that you shouldn't be doing what you're doing if you have to check IDs.. like ew. He knows most of his fans are super young!!!! And what if they are fake IDs? Like what is going on
They’re asking HIM to kiss THEM. He’s not taking advantage of anyone. There’s no power imbalance because they’re not dating.. it’s literally just a kiss
@alex a lot of people I know do find him unattractive funny enough. Like they love the music and his confidence but if he was just a non-famous guy hitting on them at the club they'd just see some goofy faced tall lanky guy and not be into it
she’s right though 😳 in all the clips that i’ve seen, he asks for consent multiple times and makes sure that they’re okay with it even if they’re the one who asked him to kiss them
I don’t think the problem necessarily that he’s kissing fans obsessed with him, it’s just like, a really weird thing to do regardless? Any artist that makes out with fans on stage would be weird to me
Yeah…the consent isn’t the weird part It’s the power dynamics and the extra work to make sure it’s legal. Like how it’s weird that grown men obsess over 18 year olds. I know he’s checking that they’re OVER 18 not specifically 18 but having a system set up with fans cause you’re going to kiss them also just feels…weird
Bit or not, just don't do it with fans!! Hire an actor for pete sake!!! Consent is one thing. What if the fan fake their identity and pretend to be of age just to snog Healy on stage. Not great look overall.
@@kaylajohnson4867 That's just your opinion and that's fine. That's the thing. Doesn't mean it's illegal or wrong. He's checking IDs and they're giving consent.
@@hrvbox lol, what other bands do what he is doing though? Most bands just play their music, interact with fans and move on. Like matty always has to do the most. And who cares if he’s checking ID. Kids still carry around fake IDs. He shouldn’t be kissing strangers anyway. God knows how many peoples he’s kissed and where his mouth has been.
Yeeeah, it feels wrong to use your power over young women who look up to you to make out with them :/ I get that these fans think they want to kiss him and all, but there's a difference between fantasizing about it and it actually happening. Like, these girls would do anything for him. It feels weird to pull them up on stage and possibly make them feel peer pressured into doing it. I don't know all the details, it just seems odd and predatory to me, and emphasizing how he was on drugs just sounds like an excuse.
Even if its "a bit" hes still kissing his fans. We dont know that he isnt getting off on it. We cant assume that its just a joke and that hes doing something for his fans and not getting anything out of it. Any celebrities doing that is weird.
@@dilfsarethebestt I feel like it's weird to do anything publicly sexual with them. But at least they're not nicki who gave a 13 yr old boy a lap dance ig
Regardless of WHATEVER AGE YOUR FANS ARE YOU SHOULDN'T BE getting physical with fans it's extremely PREDATORY! I HOPE BRITTNAY will someday understand that!
she is right lmao. I’ve loved the 1975 for 7 years and explaining all of the fucking lore and reasoning behind matty healys silly little decisions would take hours
Me when I make a “silly little decision” to take advantage of the power dynamic between me and my diehard fans UWU This is bordering on parasocial relationship, just because you’ve been a fan of him since you were 13 doesn’t mean you know the guy. It doesn’t matter how hard you try to explain the “lore and reasoning” and try to do mental gymnastics to justify his behaviour, many of his fans are simply too obsessed with him to see why he’s in the wrong, because they wish it was them who he was kissing.
@@FirstnameLastname-zq8oy I'm not talking abt him kissing fans cause ill be the first to admit that's odd. I'm more so talking abt the concert as a whole as someone who's seen the 1975 live, their aesthetic, messages, lyrics and performance art on stage are strange to people who aren't fans of the band for a multitude of reasons. I am well aware I don't know Matty babes and I'm alright with that.
@@amandamorwick5370 oh, considering that the majority of this video is Brittany and Noel arguing about whether it’s okay for Matty to be kissing his fans, you thought you were saying Brittany is right when she implies that it’s fine because the fans want it.
He’s an adult stop defending his silly decisions as if he’s a quirky teenager. Y’all have idolised him so much that you’re convinced he can do no wrong.
The thing that needed to be said was, it's normal for fans to want to kiss their fav artists. It's up to the artist to know that's not an appropriate thing to do.
Listen. The 1975 album slaps. That said, I'm still disturb they still do this. Brittany to Matt Healy is basically Adin Ross to Tate right now. Period. Bit or not, just don't do it with an actual fan. Hire an actor for pete sake!! Who's to know if the fans would fake their identity and pretend to be of age just so they can snog Healy. Not okay dude.
There’s a BIG difference between someone wanting to kiss their celebrity crush vs a celebrity wanting to kiss his/her fans who are borderline obsessed with him. Nobody is blaming it on the fans for wanting to kiss him, they’re blaming Matty Healy for allowing it to happen.
Yeah and when i was 13 i wanted to kiss an adult man but does that make it okay for that man to kiss me? It’s not just about what his fans want it’s about what he chose to do to them because he has more power than them.
so watching this now after seeing then twice in toronto in this past tour (still... at their very best) he was helllla drunk at both the toronto and london (ontario) show - i went to both and in the london one, he was like tripping up and stumbling etc soo like idk about that being a bit , but dont get me wrong i love 1975 and i love matty but idk
It being the “ultimate emo girl dream” is exactly why he SHOULDN’T be doing it. A lot of these fans are obsessed with him and idolise him, and obviously a lot of these fans have celebrity crushes on him, of course they’re not gonna say no, and Matty is taking advantage of that. A lot of y’all are too obsessed with him to understand why what he’s doing is wrong, because you wish you were the one he was kissing instead.
I wonder is Matty's fans would excuse the same dynamic with different people, like if a student liked a teacher since they were 13, grew up obsessed with the teacher and when they were of age, made out with said teacher. Im sorry, it's just such a weird power play...also wasn't Mathew the one that said horribly racist stuff to Ice Spice? Just a 0/10 guy
obviously everyone camping for days to get front row knows exactly what they are signing up for ... it's essentially a quick peck on the lips i really don't think it's harming anyone
Brittany... sweaty......... no you are not right and it is still considered taking advantage of power dynamics and parasocial relationships. Love you girl but no.
Brittany we love you. But The 1975 'bit', we can still enjoy their concert without it. They need to nuke that routine asap. Or just hire an actor for pete sake!!! Don't do it with an actual fan!
Brittany is right! Even from an outsider looking in and not understanding the lore, I feel that you should be able to see that Matty isn’t doing anything different then what rockstars have done for decades. He’s just doing it correctly. Asking for ID and consent. Take a look at idols of previous generations and see if you can say they at least did that because I doubt it.
Still not an excuse. There are hardly any rock bands of this century that kiss fans on stage. They just play their must and interact with fans. He just does the most. He even does nazi salutes and people excuse that but that’s a different topic. He once said he had a problem with fans sexualising him yet he’s happy to kiss them on stage to fulfil fan’s fantasies
@@R-E1975 i agree i grew up loving the 1975 but these days I’m just not feeling quite the same about them, watching people like op in the fanbase and brit trying to explain away the frontman’s bad behavior opened my eyes to how wrong and odd a lot of the stuff he does at shows, personally and in interviews.
@@hamsterharrystyles6968 people need to stop with the character bs. He is a singer of a band. Why does he need to play a character? What other bands do that. It’s just an excuse to excuse his weird behaviour. He does a nazi salute on stage and that was the same bs excuse
Brittany: "You don't have all the facts."
Noel: "What are the facts?"
Brittany: "That I love him."
Ok but fr, I understand Brittney's viewpoint and what she's trying to get at as someone who has been a fangirl since a very young age but as an adult, I agree with Noel. There should always be boundaries between artists & fans.
brittany, noel and cody are the trio i didn’t know i needed
“It was a different time” is a hilarious way to say society used to let us do flagrant stuff without judgement😂😂
I agree but Matty didn't do anything wrong so it doesn't apply to him.
@@hrvbox Jesus christ
it's also a hilarious thing to say after "it was 2014"
@@alex-kk5so he's never kissed an underage fan? 😭
@@hrvbox I think he has but he didn’t know jeje
Brittany explaining parasocial grooming like it's cool is so unhinged I cannot help but break down laughing
Ok how are you feeling about it now?? 🤡🤡🤡🤡
as a girl with an older brother and male cousins, this is exactly how conversations go when i try to talk to them about fangirl shit. i hear how ridiculous i sound sometimes and laugh with them and other times they get it. a fine line of sibling bonding.
i never used to see a problem with matty doing this on stage but when brittany mentions how like his whole fanbase (me included, admittedly) has been with him since they were like 13 its…. it doesn’t sound great LMAO
but if we’re all legal adults now i don’t see the problem
@@dawnnn444 there’s still a power dynamic in that he has the social hierarchy on his side, it’s a bad place where an artist can take advantage of people
it's not criminal but the self awareness makes it worse not better lmao
Right lmao
For real it’s like he’s on some kind of ego power trip. Like any other celebrity with mature/healthy adult relationships in their lives would not be messing around with FANS like that…
Period
@@harrietmcclouddd had someone reply to me saying “the girls volunteer” and I’m talking in circles to say “that doesn’t make it better he shouldn’t be asking for volunteers!”
It’s very normal for a young fan to fantasize about making out or hooking up with a celebrity. That’s not the issue. The issue is that it’s the celebrity’s responsibility to not abuse their power to exploit vulnerable young fans. Britany is seeing this from the perspective of a fan, Noel is talking from the perspective of the public figure.
Correct me if I’m wrong but I think the only fans he kissed were like 28/29 which is kind of the same age as him?
But they’re all adults….
@@ca.lunaaait has nothing to do with that, it’s the power dynamic of celebrity and fan and that yes they’re so willing to kiss him but maybe he shouldn’t be taking advantage of that willingness that exists because of his fame, so to speak
@@vanessamilton8235idk how are the fans 'used' in this situation, they wanted that kiss, they got it, they're happy. I don't think heely even needs these kisses
@@tattva_jnanait’s transactional in a way. The fan gets to cross the parasocial barrier and do something pseudo romantic with someone they admire and the celeb gets validated in whatever subconscious way and gets some shock value content to keep their name in the media.
I think it’s kinda off and feels like sanitized s€x work. It’s the same creepy vibe I get when attractive cosplayers/models/sex workers go to conventions and take a looot of money from their fans to take suggestive photos with them. It’s an unnatural human encounter. In my mind, it’s not just the celeb being creepy, but whoever actually takes the bait and is so ready to sexualize a perfect stranger.
It is dehumanizing in the lens that celebrities are often deified and pedestaled so the power they have over their fans is an abnormal relationship. Celebrities aren’t your friends/potential romantic partners…they’re just someone to project on, scream in their face at and ask a photo from. Once you start an interaction with screaming and crying in a celebs face, you’ve ruined any hope for a normal friendship/relationship.
I don’t get how anyone can feel good with such artificial interactions. I’d feel discouraged if I liked someone’s music for awhile and my first interaction was ‘stand on this mark, Matty’s going to kiss you at this time stamp and the security guard will whisk you away’
You’re just some faceless fan used for a bit and forgotten before Matty feels his hangover.
Cody not wanting to be rude and say no and Noel just going the opposite direction and roasted her for a full 11 mins it’s sending me lol
Nah cody was thinking "i need to keep her around to defend me too once i get caught hooking up with 17 year olds"
I’m cracking up at the fact you spelled his name Mattie
same name, still a pedo groomer.
TMG is boomer central
I've given Noel shit before about being way to aggressive but the way he stands his ground against Britany defending Mattie's grooming is very commendable.
I'm not convinced this is definitively grooming. But there is definitely an issue of abusing power imbalances here. I do wish Noel chose his words more carefully because people are already confused on what grooming means these days.
@@smurfette_blues7922 if people are waiting for noel to educate them then the whole thing is a lost cause
@@smurfette_blues7922I think he was trying to highlight the power imbalance and how it is somewhat similar to grooming bc these people have been into this celebrity since they were young teens
Noel got lit up for minimizing Andrew Tate so he's trying to make sure he's on the right side of history 🤣
It’s wild to have a woman saying “but it’s ok because these young girls want it,” and for a cishet guy to be the one saying “no it’s grooming.” Lmao what is happening here. I’m so sorry Britany, you took the L on this one
literally
She was a great guest, hopefully she comes back on
1975 is the amount of felonies and kisses hes caught
It’s hilarious that I was having the same exact reaction as Noel while Britany was explaining 😭😭 I was DYING for Noel to speak out
can she come back to the show already i need more of these three asap
Everything I've learnt about this man has been against my will.
I love this fighting. It’s like it’s always sunny in Philly
I totally get where they're both coming from for sure, but man it's such a slippery slope. I am glad that Noel sees the problem side of it and clearly Brittany does too, but it is different through a fan's eyes.
I am glad they posted this clip, I really wanted to hear more opinions about this specifically from the pod. The way people are so equally divided in how this is either creepy/a power trip or a bit. But the opposing views are very interesting to read
the banter between Noel and Brittany is the best thing ever lmao
"Parasocial grooming" its a new term that in my mind, sounds appropiate here.
I love Brittney but I think anyone w that perspective abt the whole Matty Healy thing is wildly out of touch like he is kissing his fans that is so creepy what?? how is it a bit if he's literally just doing it sober??
It's means that he knows exactly what he is doing
If you have to consistently check IDs I think that' should be enough for you to not engage in whatever weird behaviour you're about to do. Dazzled fans will go along with alot of things because they're star struck and in love with the music. And seems they're all incredibly young too so can't be that well informed about what it means when a singer sucks your thumb...or kisses you. What's the limit? Can he do anything to his fans and it'd just allowed because it's matty healy," it's a bit!" Come on. Just another man getting his rocks off right in front of everyone because he can.
Most fans are in their mid twenties. There is consent and ID checking. It's not a kids show 😭
He doesn't Kiss fans who haven't themselves asked for it!
Why is everyone in this comment section acting like this is something he imposes on others against their will? If he's "getting his rocks off in front of everyone" then so it the person he is doing it with (which, as mentioned, majority of their fans are adults), because they are both consenting adults sharing a singular moment. People are blowing this WAY out of proportion. Its a fucking kiss lol
@@Honehe it doesn’t matter if it’s “just a kiss” and that “the fans wanted it”, it’s an obvious abuse of power. Some people here are just too obsessed with Matty Healy to understand why his actions are wrong, because they wish it was them who he was kissing.
@@hrvbox you don’t need to be a kid for there to be an imbalance of power.
It's never different when you excuse any action of someone you've admired for over a decade
being legal is not the same as being moral tho
literally
Isn't that what people say about abortion?
TMG editors are committed to spelling Matty’s name as Mattie
LMAOOOOO this debate tour I would buy tickets and roll in the venue floor crying laughing. Brittany is really braver than any troops for trying, and that’s coming from a fellow 1975 fan.
Brittany is one of those people who will never admit that they’re wrong at something and their favourite white man is not perfect.
as much as i like her i agree LOL
Saying white man like it's a negative makes you look like a clown.
3:10 LMFAO CODY’S FACE😂😂💀
brittany is weird as fuck for this. admitting its all nostalgia and then having the nerve to argue that alone is enough to make it alright
3:13 LMAO CODYS FACE
the slow thai bit KILLED ME when he started going “alright alright”
I can’t believe how many fans are behind him on the kissing shit when they’d be canceling literally anyone else doing it…it’s still creepy 😬
Idc if he checks for ID’s he’s still taking advantage of his fans…like that argument of “it’s ok because he’s giving them what they want and NOW they’re of age” sounds like it could just be used for victim blaming against girls in other situations with celebrities/SA or other power dynamics…thank god Cody and Noel find it weird asf
Its utterly outrageous. Seems like the fans are brainwashed or just dazzled by his talent so they ignore the weird behaviour. Like if this man was unattractive n not so popular musically it'd be a whole different story. Its so odd
And how is he even checking IDs? And isn't it a bit of a reality check that you shouldn't be doing what you're doing if you have to check IDs.. like ew. He knows most of his fans are super young!!!! And what if they are fake IDs? Like what is going on
They’re asking HIM to kiss THEM. He’s not taking advantage of anyone. There’s no power imbalance because they’re not dating.. it’s literally just a kiss
@alex a lot of people I know do find him unattractive funny enough. Like they love the music and his confidence but if he was just a non-famous guy hitting on them at the club they'd just see some goofy faced tall lanky guy and not be into it
she’s right though 😳 in all the clips that i’ve seen, he asks for consent multiple times and makes sure that they’re okay with it even if they’re the one who asked him to kiss them
I don’t think the problem necessarily that he’s kissing fans obsessed with him, it’s just like, a really weird thing to do regardless? Any artist that makes out with fans on stage would be weird to me
Yeah…the consent isn’t the weird part
It’s the power dynamics and the extra work to make sure it’s legal. Like how it’s weird that grown men obsess over 18 year olds. I know he’s checking that they’re OVER 18 not specifically 18 but having a system set up with fans cause you’re going to kiss them also just feels…weird
@@sapaulgoogdmen9542 what power dynamic though? it’s not like they’re dating, it’s just a kiss
That's not the point lol it's just weird as fuck like of course his fans want it
Bit or not, just don't do it with fans!! Hire an actor for pete sake!!! Consent is one thing. What if the fan fake their identity and pretend to be of age just to snog Healy on stage. Not great look overall.
This has aged like a fine milk
This whole episode had me crying bro pls bring her back
"listen.................."
".... im listening"
"It was a test"
It’s just a prank bro. - Matty
Noel and Cody are right, the fan kissing is still sleazy and gross regardless of context.
exactly. checking ID doesn’t mean anything in terms of making it okay. kissing random people as a performance bit is so odd and gross idc
@@kaylajohnson4867kissing women you need to check the ID of as a 30 something man is weeeeeeirddddddddf
@@kaylajohnson4867 That's just your opinion and that's fine. That's the thing. Doesn't mean it's illegal or wrong. He's checking IDs and they're giving consent.
@@hrvbox lol, what other bands do what he is doing though? Most bands just play their music, interact with fans and move on. Like matty always has to do the most. And who cares if he’s checking ID. Kids still carry around fake IDs. He shouldn’t be kissing strangers anyway. God knows how many peoples he’s kissed and where his mouth has been.
@@R-E1975 That's his problem 😭 and consent and checking IDs does matter.
as someone born on the millennial-gen z cusp, with many older millennials and boomers in my life, I felt like I was the one having this conversation
They don’t even know what to do with Britany lmaooo
Yeeeah, it feels wrong to use your power over young women who look up to you to make out with them :/ I get that these fans think they want to kiss him and all, but there's a difference between fantasizing about it and it actually happening. Like, these girls would do anything for him. It feels weird to pull them up on stage and possibly make them feel peer pressured into doing it. I don't know all the details, it just seems odd and predatory to me, and emphasizing how he was on drugs just sounds like an excuse.
Even if its "a bit" hes still kissing his fans. We dont know that he isnt getting off on it. We cant assume that its just a joke and that hes doing something for his fans and not getting anything out of it. Any celebrities doing that is weird.
yup like usher
i feel like nobody talks about how weird it is that usher basically gives his fans lap dances and shi on stage..
@@dilfsarethebestt I feel like it's weird to do anything publicly sexual with them. But at least they're not nicki who gave a 13 yr old boy a lap dance ig
That slowthai clip is haunting, he says “does it taste nice?” right after
I absolutely feel how she feels explaining this to someone who doesn’t understand the bit 😂😂😂😂😂
i love brittany but i think she's seeing this situation through fangirl goggles
7:35-7:50 sounds exactly how my conversations would be with my male friends when I was into kpop groups lol
Regardless of WHATEVER AGE YOUR FANS ARE YOU SHOULDN'T BE getting physical with fans it's extremely PREDATORY! I HOPE BRITTNAY will someday understand that!
if she's 25/26 and doesn't understand that...idk
It’s such a weird parasocial dynamic
I'm a fan of the 1975s music and I will say I'm not on board with whole kissing fans thing I think it's weird af
10 minutes in and I thought they were talking about Mattie Smokes this whole time.
THANK YOU FIR THIS
“Mattie” 😭😭😭😭
same name, still a pedophile and a groomer.
@@bubbyberry bro what 💀
the amount of cope from Brittany in this is incredible.
she is right lmao. I’ve loved the 1975 for 7 years and explaining all of the fucking lore and reasoning behind matty healys silly little decisions would take hours
Me when I make a “silly little decision” to take advantage of the power dynamic between me and my diehard fans UWU
This is bordering on parasocial relationship, just because you’ve been a fan of him since you were 13 doesn’t mean you know the guy. It doesn’t matter how hard you try to explain the “lore and reasoning” and try to do mental gymnastics to justify his behaviour, many of his fans are simply too obsessed with him to see why he’s in the wrong, because they wish it was them who he was kissing.
TLDR; Noel is right, Matty doing this shit is creepy and exploitative
@@FirstnameLastname-zq8oy I'm not talking abt him kissing fans cause ill be the first to admit that's odd. I'm more so talking abt the concert as a whole as someone who's seen the 1975 live, their aesthetic, messages, lyrics and performance art on stage are strange to people who aren't fans of the band for a multitude of reasons. I am well aware I don't know Matty babes and I'm alright with that.
@@amandamorwick5370 oh, considering that the majority of this video is Brittany and Noel arguing about whether it’s okay for Matty to be kissing his fans, you thought you were saying Brittany is right when she implies that it’s fine because the fans want it.
He’s an adult stop defending his silly decisions as if he’s a quirky teenager. Y’all have idolised him so much that you’re convinced he can do no wrong.
The thing that needed to be said was, it's normal for fans to want to kiss their fav artists. It's up to the artist to know that's not an appropriate thing to do.
Brittany Couldve Got Epstein off with that Defense 😂😂😂
Listen. The 1975 album slaps. That said, I'm still disturb they still do this. Brittany to Matt Healy is basically Adin Ross to Tate right now. Period. Bit or not, just don't do it with an actual fan. Hire an actor for pete sake!! Who's to know if the fans would fake their identity and pretend to be of age just so they can snog Healy. Not okay dude.
Yall getting me cackling in this empty starbucks the staffs r looking at me
Honestly, I think if most people were given the opportunity to kiss their celebrity crush, they would
You can frame it in that way.
You can also frame it as some dude that uses his fame to kiss a barely adult fan every show.
There’s a BIG difference between someone wanting to kiss their celebrity crush vs a celebrity wanting to kiss his/her fans who are borderline obsessed with him. Nobody is blaming it on the fans for wanting to kiss him, they’re blaming Matty Healy for allowing it to happen.
Yeah and when i was 13 i wanted to kiss an adult man but does that make it okay for that man to kiss me? It’s not just about what his fans want it’s about what he chose to do to them because he has more power than them.
Noel is sending me 😭😭
so watching this now after seeing then twice in toronto in this past tour (still... at their very best) he was helllla drunk at both the toronto and london (ontario) show - i went to both and in the london one, he was like tripping up and stumbling etc soo like idk about that being a bit , but dont get me wrong i love 1975 and i love matty but idk
Brittany is me when I'm trying to convince my friends to listen to The 1975😩
she’s right!
It's a bit as the context is still confusing but I guess I get it 😅
okay yes it makes sense for matty healy to do that BUT SHOULD HE????
the best summary of this whole discussion
Damn dog....imagine some old geezer like tom segura watching this...he would kill her HAHAHAHA
hey title person it’s matty not mattie lol
She's right. And he always asks for consent before he does it. It's the ultimate emo girl dream.
It being the “ultimate emo girl dream” is exactly why he SHOULDN’T be doing it. A lot of these fans are obsessed with him and idolise him, and obviously a lot of these fans have celebrity crushes on him, of course they’re not gonna say no, and Matty is taking advantage of that. A lot of y’all are too obsessed with him to understand why what he’s doing is wrong, because you wish you were the one he was kissing instead.
TLDR; Noel is right, Matty is creepy and exploitative.
Cody at 3:11 "oh shiiiiiiiiiiit"
This whole video is so fucking FUNNY I'm CRYING
This video is exactly me & my bf anytime we talk about Matty hahaha
brittany is me defending matty to everyone i know
Not a flex 💀
I wonder is Matty's fans would excuse the same dynamic with different people, like if a student liked a teacher since they were 13, grew up obsessed with the teacher and when they were of age, made out with said teacher. Im sorry, it's just such a weird power play...also wasn't Mathew the one that said horribly racist stuff to Ice Spice? Just a 0/10 guy
this is unfortunately me in every conversation nowadays
Well, this aged well
i love matty healy so much!
Why is she defending this? Weird lol
This should’ve been the first red flag from Brittany
It's the power dynamics that makes this super wrong for me.
obviously everyone camping for days to get front row knows exactly what they are signing up for ... it's essentially a quick peck on the lips i really don't think it's harming anyone
Brittany... sweaty......... no you are not right and it is still considered taking advantage of power dynamics and parasocial relationships. Love you girl but no.
Brittany we love you. But The 1975 'bit', we can still enjoy their concert without it. They need to nuke that routine asap. Or just hire an actor for pete sake!!! Don't do it with an actual fan!
She right yo
I've been a the 1975 fan for 8 years and i get that it's a skit i understand how meta it is but...i still don't like it lol
Brittany is right! Even from an outsider looking in and not understanding the lore, I feel that you should be able to see that Matty isn’t doing anything different then what rockstars have done for decades. He’s just doing it correctly. Asking for ID and consent. Take a look at idols of previous generations and see if you can say they at least did that because I doubt it.
Still not an excuse. There are hardly any rock bands of this century that kiss fans on stage. They just play their must and interact with fans. He just does the most. He even does nazi salutes and people excuse that but that’s a different topic. He once said he had a problem with fans sexualising him yet he’s happy to kiss them on stage to fulfil fan’s fantasies
just because other rock stars like steven Tyler did it in the 70s and 80s doesn’t make it okay
@@R-E1975 i agree i grew up loving the 1975 but these days I’m just not feeling quite the same about them, watching people like op in the fanbase and brit trying to explain away the frontman’s bad behavior opened my eyes to how wrong and odd a lot of the stuff he does at shows, personally and in interviews.
“That’s the rose I’ve been looking for”
oh i remember seeing him on chicken shop date and immediately got the kind of guy he was... i wouldn't defend that guy publically ever
he’s literally just playing a character… his whole celebrity persona is a “ rockstar “
@@hamsterharrystyles6968 people need to stop with the character bs. He is a singer of a band. Why does he need to play a character? What other bands do that. It’s just an excuse to excuse his weird behaviour. He does a nazi salute on stage and that was the same bs excuse
@@R-E1975 David Bowie did it
She was right 😂🫶🏻
Fast forward to now….
This is the bit that shouldn’t have been clipped. Noel hasn’t been to a single concert in his life.
lets play who can i give cold sores to quickest
Still super duper creepy, how is this okay lol
Noel's prolapse joke is subjectively worse to me than anything Matty Healy has ever done on stage 😀
it’s matty babes
Nah, he's a bit of a creep
she’s right
She is right - a fan in The comments
Didn’t Matty dated a 17 old, when he was 23?