Can go against, heck yeah. But will he win? Black hippy even without Kendrick are already pretty wild in themselves. Idk if Isaiah Rashad still snaps the way he used to. JID has a chance to win, but how consistent will it be before someone catches him slip?
Cole my favorite artist too but I’ve always said that Kendrick is a better rapper… but you honestly right I think it might be time to give Cole his flowers as truly the best of this generation.
@@notmr.barocksonjohnson570that’s how I feel too. I think Cole is slightly better than Kendrick at rapping but to me Kendrick is a whole level ahead of Cole as an artist
I'd take DreamVille over TDE only cause I feel like The DreamVille Roster actually fw each other and Genuinely have Chemistry with each other which is Why ROTD was So dope .... Also , Does the $250 prize apply for Africans Too ? 😅
Agree with you 100% on Cole vs Kendrick. I think Cole is much more clever with punch lines and rhyme schemes but kendrick is just leagues ahead in terms of artistry. Basically Kendrick is like batman with prep time and cole is superman
Cole that dude , but Kendrick Lamar fucking Duckworth is like MIke Jack and Prince in 84 after dropping Thriller and Purple Rain . Kendrick has passed Nas , Jay Z , Snoop , Ice Cube , Scarface , KRS-1 , Biggie and pretty much every golden era MC except Tupac . I believe he’s done with making music . He’s arguably the best MC/ Live performer ever after dropping Section 80 , GKMC , TPAB , Damn and MMATBS . Who has 5 classics albums in a row . He’s even better with a live band in concert .
@@ashtonphoenyx I respect that . I forgot about the Untitled joint . Plus all the ghost writing for School Boy Q and Jay Rock on all the albums they’ve dropped since TDE started .
@@ashtonphoenyxI’m always up for debate about it but realistically Kendrick has 5 classics , section 80 is definitely an underground classic (just stating this to be clear) but since gkmc he’s been extremely consistent, many people wanna argue about him sound wise since gkmc is just the perfect west coast pop like successor but no it goes wayyyy beyond that …Kendrick writing concept and storytelling has always been peak and hasn’t dropped in quality since .. doing a deep dive on each album will prove nobody is doing it like him, 100% classics no doubt … untitled unmastered surprisingly is weird since the writing is amazing as always and theorized if it’s tied to religious context ..but I’ll be generous not to mention it
TDE vs Dreamville is the most beautiful exciting equal rivalry we have ever had it’s like peaceful with no hate (mostly out of respect between Cole and Kendrick) and competitive at the same time Bug talents and artists bro
They need to have a live rap show off with freestyles, songs they've already made & upcoming songs (if they want) between these labels. Like a beat plays & they just spit bars with each other round after round on stage until finally kendrick & j cole come in at the end
Years ago Kendrick made a albums with J Cole and I heard songs from it and he bodies him in every song I head. It's a shame it will never be released 😔 J Cole was my favorite artist every since the warm up and Friday night lights. One day I found I Kendrick while looking on dat piff and I was blown away. Hearing Cole get bodied on these songs was like watching Iverson cross Jordan and shoot the jumper in his face. It's a shame this project will never be released it would have been great for hip hop. Then Good Kidd madd city came out an it was a wrap.
i think kendrick's impact is undeniable but cole as an artist has done so much more for the people within the industry with his features, his label, and the advice he gives to up and coming artists. he also has multiple masterclass albums with zero features, which is something that should speak for itself. i think once The Fall Off drops we'll be able to definitively say that cole is the goat but idk i may just be dickridimg
I am a TDE fanatic and like you Schoolboy is what made me a Stan buuuuuuuuuuuuuuut I be lying if I didn’t say J Cole Ari Lennox and JID alone make me say Dreamville plus I think they have better chemistry as a label proven on Revenge TDE as still GOATS but Dreamville is the better collective to me they are now the new rap label champions to beat
I 100 percent agree. With this being their first compilation it’s gonna be interesting to see how they work together and bring their strengths out instead of the biggest artist on the track just outshining the others
Great video I pretty much agree with everything you said except the Bas hate 😭. Lit, My nigga just made bail, and night job are great songs by him imo. Also idk I think Cole might got Kendrick at this point because he's done nothing but show up and show out since everyone started calling 4yeo boring, which BTW is a terrible take if you ask me.
TDE vs Dreamville *Since 2020* 2020: Reason - New Beginnings (7/10) 2021: Isaiah Rashad - The House Is Burning (8.5/10) 2022: Kendrick Lamar - Mr. Morale & The Big Steppers (8/10) SZA - SOS (9/10) Ab-Soul - Herbert (8/10) Reason - Porches (7/10) ScHoolboy Q - Blue Lips (8.5/10) TDE total: 56/70 2020: Spillage Village - Spilligion (6.5/10) 2021: J. Cole - The Off-Season (8/10) Lute - Gold Mouf (7/10) 2022: JID - The Forever Story (9.5/10) Earthgang - Ghetto Gods (7/10) Ari Lennox - Age/Sex/Location (7.5/10) 2023: Bas - We Only Talk About Real Shit When We’re Fucked Up (6.5/10) Dreamville Total: 52/70 It’s close but to me, TDE has dropped better albums this decade. Obviously ‘The Forever Story’ Is the best one of them all but it’s not based on one album. I’m excited to see what both of them got for us this year. Q just dropped an amazing album. SiR is gonna drop another classic. Jay Rock is gearing to drop. Seems like they’re shooting for Zay and Soulo to drop this year too but that will probably be later on in the year. The Compilation album would be amazing but I don’t wanna get my hopes up for that one.. As for Dreamville, I’m insanely excited for ‘The Fall Off’ but that’s kind of it. I’m hoping Cozz is gearing up to drop this year. After ‘Effected’ in 2018, we’re over due for more heat from him. It would also be great to see Omen drop something, but I doubt it… Side note: I’m really interested to see where Griselda goes from here. Westside, Benny & Conway all drop their worst projects IMO as they all tried to appeal to the mainstream and I wasn’t feeling all of their last albums. ‘Everybody Cant Go’ was okay, just too predictable at this point. Anyways I’m hoping Stove God Cooks, Boldy and Mach-Hommy drop albums under the label this year and bring back that grimey feeling. There it is, there is my rant.
Haha yeah I’m a huge nerd when it comes to this hip-hop shit lol. That’s why I love the genre though. Only hip-hop has this level of completion and it’s just fun to be around for it.
The picks were insane from jump with you choosing Ari. SZA has 2 classic albums with barely any skips, does better on features & is a better lyricist. No comp but entertaining video!
I just re listened to both... I feel like Cole's was more unexpected because around the time his remix dropped every body was saying his raps are "boring" Kendrick had just dropped to pimp a butterfly so I think it was kinda lost in the light of that album, we where all like oh Kendrick is just doing what he does on every song. So there wasn't as big of a surprise factor besides it being on a Cole beat. That's long way of me saying Cole, because it does sound like he was just having fun with the beat more, and he surprised a lot of critics snapping like he did. @notmr.barocksonjohnson570 (I agree with you @@_FLWRS
JID vs Isaiah is a tough matchup fuck. Personally I think I enjoy Isaiah's music more probably cause the nostalgia I get when I think about TST and Cilvia Demo. If we're being honest though JID is bar for bar much better and more technically skilled.
TDE has the more grounded rappers who've been in the game longer. But dreamville even tho they're kinda newer than tde, are growing quickly, as both, individual rappers and a group So im picking dreamville
I ain’t excited for an tde compilation album because Kendrick is most likely ain’t gonna be on there he hasn’t been on any of the labels recent albums and ik he had background vocals on ab-souls recent album but it wasn’t an actual verse and bet it was recorded before Kendrick left tde I’ll bet they have bad blood behind the scenes despite what they said publicly
TDE vs. Dreamville is a battle that's needed for the culture.
We need dat
Baby Keem
It’s baby keem
@@ynswrld2130he's baby keem
Ice cream booger, sub zero
Baby keem sweeps
I'm here, even though I'm a more of a Cole then Kendrick fan
Kenny Mason
my second favorite after Baby Keem
🐶
doghauus
Pup
He such a dope artist him and Paris Texas
To be honest Jid can go against anybody in TDE
Especially since Kenny left
Based
He honestly might be the "current" best rapper, dude just checks all the boxes... closest thing to Kendrick for the next generation.
@@_FLWRS yeah
Can go against, heck yeah. But will he win? Black hippy even without Kendrick are already pretty wild in themselves. Idk if Isaiah Rashad still snaps the way he used to. JID has a chance to win, but how consistent will it be before someone catches him slip?
This is basically two families that happen to be cousins with each other.
This is one of those discussions where everybody has to take a longgggggggg look into the mirror of their music tastes😂😂
Cole my favorite artist too but I’ve always said that Kendrick is a better rapper… but you honestly right I think it might be time to give Cole his flowers as truly the best of this generation.
I’ve always thought Cole was the better RAPPER and Kendrick was the better ARTIST
@@notmr.barocksonjohnson570that’s how I feel too. I think Cole is slightly better than Kendrick at rapping but to me Kendrick is a whole level ahead of Cole as an artist
You can lie tho cole has some of the best rollouts
@@notmr.barocksonjohnson570 lol
Cole is a stronger MC, but Kendrick is the better overall artist
I'd take DreamVille over TDE only cause I feel like The DreamVille Roster actually fw each other and Genuinely have Chemistry with each other which is Why ROTD was So dope ....
Also , Does the $250 prize apply for Africans Too ? 😅
I’m not sure how to send it but I can find a way brother! Everyone’s included over here
are you in Africa if so what country? Or are you African?
@@_FLWRS Alright Bro , imma sign up and get to commenting on the other videos too 🔥
@@jameslight4391 yea bro , I'm African , Zambian To be specific.... Are you ?
@@IamDMV yes
Agree with you 100% on Cole vs Kendrick. I think Cole is much more clever with punch lines and rhyme schemes but kendrick is just leagues ahead in terms of artistry. Basically Kendrick is like batman with prep time and cole is superman
Go listen to his nostalgia and control verses then come back here
We supporting small channels with good content over here
That’s what’s up fwm
That’s a fact
Outro is an absolute vibe. Them trumpets man! Reminds me of Basstracks. Night time drive vibe.
Revenge of the Dreamers was too good.
I agree with you on bas he’s hit and miss he was dope first coming out then he went away
Cole that dude , but Kendrick Lamar fucking Duckworth is like MIke Jack and Prince in 84 after dropping Thriller and Purple Rain . Kendrick has passed Nas , Jay Z , Snoop , Ice Cube , Scarface , KRS-1 , Biggie and pretty much every golden era MC except Tupac . I believe he’s done with making music . He’s arguably the best MC/ Live performer ever after dropping Section 80 , GKMC , TPAB , Damn and MMATBS . Who has 5 classics albums in a row . He’s even better with a live band in concert .
I can’t dispute that! I appreciate you watchin
Wouldn't say 5 classics. I'd say 2. GKMC and TPAB
@@ashtonphoenyx I respect that . I forgot about the Untitled joint . Plus all the ghost writing for School Boy Q and Jay Rock on all the albums they’ve dropped since TDE started .
@@ashtonphoenyxI’m always up for debate about it but realistically Kendrick has 5 classics , section 80 is definitely an underground classic (just stating this to be clear) but since gkmc he’s been extremely consistent, many people wanna argue about him sound wise since gkmc is just the perfect west coast pop like successor but no it goes wayyyy beyond that …Kendrick writing concept and storytelling has always been peak and hasn’t dropped in quality since .. doing a deep dive on each album will prove nobody is doing it like him, 100% classics no doubt … untitled unmastered surprisingly is weird since the writing is amazing as always and theorized if it’s tied to religious context ..but I’ll be generous not to mention it
Naw he might have four or five my g and thats regarded by the hip h community@@ashtonphoenyx
My favorite TH-camr man keep grinding 💯🙏
Man thank you for that
Just wanted to say I love your channel 🙌
Glad you enjoyin it!
Buddy's ability to make people feel good is a big part of why ppl remember Revenge III
youve become one of my favourite youtubers your like the straight shawn cee
I appreciate that bro! It’s good seeing you in the comments again
Shawn Cee lost me as a subscriber once he started featuring videos by FDsignifier
@@Demsky83 I don't think you understood the joke
Earthgang jid vs schoolboy q, ab soul..
Track gonna be crazy
TDE vs Dreamville is the most beautiful exciting equal rivalry we have ever had it’s like peaceful with no hate (mostly out of respect between Cole and Kendrick) and competitive at the same time
Bug talents and artists bro
They need to have a live rap show off with freestyles, songs they've already made & upcoming songs (if they want) between these labels. Like a beat plays & they just spit bars with each other round after round on stage until finally kendrick & j cole come in at the end
I heard bout this comp some years ago… dont know when its coming, but its legit
The only miss KDot had was on American Dreams. J Cole carried Jeezy and Kendrick. But Kendricks adlibs still went hard
Love the content😂
🔥 VID, THANK U 4 THA INFO G
Nice vid you never disappoint
I appreciate that
We need some more competition tbh
Years ago Kendrick made a albums with J Cole and I heard songs from it and he bodies him in every song I head. It's a shame it will never be released 😔 J Cole was my favorite artist every since the warm up and Friday night lights. One day I found I Kendrick while looking on dat piff and I was blown away. Hearing Cole get bodied on these songs was like watching Iverson cross Jordan and shoot the jumper in his face. It's a shame this project will never be released it would have been great for hip hop. Then Good Kidd madd city came out an it was a wrap.
Looking forward for that 250
kendrick > j cole but dreamville > tde
kenn and keem my fave artists since 2020
content is fire my boy 💪🏾 keep going
Appreciate that bro! Will do
Bas - Cloud Never Get Old, Black Owned Business, Dopamine as an extra (ft. tho)
Fire video & debate..... Only match up I'd change is I'd put earthgang vs Soul & Q
This is a hard one for me. J. Cole is from my hometown of Fayetteville, NC but I absolutely loooooove Kendrick! 😭😭
It’s difficult!
@@_FLWRS very!
Keep doing ya thing❤
Will do! Thanks for the watch
Flwrs the Goat
I’m honored!
Bas’s features on the off season are amazing
TDE vs Dreamville would be super for the culture
Man these matchups are near perfect. Only switch id make is putting earthgang against ab-soul and Jay rock
We need this album
Have you listened to “to high to riot” from bas?
Yes indeed
i think kendrick's impact is undeniable but cole as an artist has done so much more for the people within the industry with his features, his label, and the advice he gives to up and coming artists. he also has multiple masterclass albums with zero features, which is something that should speak for itself. i think once The Fall Off drops we'll be able to definitively say that cole is the goat but idk i may just be dickridimg
J cole is definitely the older brother to a lot of people in the industry. You not dick riding bro nothing wrong with giving props where it’s due
Never let me down w TH-camr🤘🏽
Detox Freestyle, & Duckworth - Kendrick Lamar
This is going to be big
i want Kdot and Cole on at leastbone sing together before I die 🙏🏾
SZA, Q, JID, Jay Rock, earth, keem, Kendrick. Ab-soul.
Round 1: SZA
Round 2: ScHoolboy Q
Round 3: JID (but it's close)
Round 4: Jay Rock
Round 5: Earthgang
Round 6: Baby Keem
Cozz
Ab-Soul
Final Round: Kendrick Lamar. Cole a legend tho
11:29 control
Control was great but it was a while ago
Modern Kendrick would just spit pentameters about accepting transgender people
@@egg-ts4foWorst take I’ve ever seen. He made one song about a topic Cole (respectfully) COULD NOT make a song about.
I am a TDE fanatic and like you Schoolboy is what made me a Stan buuuuuuuuuuuuuuut I be lying if I didn’t say J Cole Ari Lennox and JID alone make me say Dreamville plus I think they have better chemistry as a label proven on Revenge TDE as still GOATS but Dreamville is the better collective to me they are now the new rap label champions to beat
I 100 percent agree. With this being their first compilation it’s gonna be interesting to see how they work together and bring their strengths out instead of the biggest artist on the track just outshining the others
Great video I pretty much agree with everything you said except the Bas hate 😭. Lit, My nigga just made bail, and night job are great songs by him imo. Also idk I think Cole might got Kendrick at this point because he's done nothing but show up and show out since everyone started calling 4yeo boring, which BTW is a terrible take if you ask me.
I remember night job! I don’t hate him lmfaoo definitely talented just not my type of artist I guess. 4yeo was great. Thanks for watchin
TDE vs Dreamville
*Since 2020*
2020:
Reason - New Beginnings (7/10)
2021:
Isaiah Rashad - The House Is Burning (8.5/10)
2022:
Kendrick Lamar - Mr. Morale & The Big Steppers (8/10)
SZA - SOS (9/10)
Ab-Soul - Herbert (8/10)
Reason - Porches (7/10)
ScHoolboy Q - Blue Lips (8.5/10)
TDE total: 56/70
2020:
Spillage Village - Spilligion (6.5/10)
2021:
J. Cole - The Off-Season (8/10)
Lute - Gold Mouf (7/10)
2022:
JID - The Forever Story (9.5/10)
Earthgang - Ghetto Gods (7/10)
Ari Lennox - Age/Sex/Location (7.5/10)
2023:
Bas - We Only Talk About Real Shit When We’re Fucked Up (6.5/10)
Dreamville Total: 52/70
It’s close but to me, TDE has dropped better albums this decade.
Obviously ‘The Forever Story’ Is the best one of them all but it’s not based on one album.
I’m excited to see what both of them got for us this year. Q just dropped an amazing album. SiR is gonna drop another classic. Jay Rock is gearing to drop. Seems like they’re shooting for Zay and Soulo to drop this year too but that will probably be later on in the year. The Compilation album would be amazing but I don’t wanna get my hopes up for that one..
As for Dreamville, I’m insanely excited for ‘The Fall Off’ but that’s kind of it. I’m hoping Cozz is gearing up to drop this year. After ‘Effected’ in 2018, we’re over due for more heat from him. It would also be great to see Omen drop something, but I doubt it…
Side note:
I’m really interested to see where Griselda goes from here. Westside, Benny & Conway all drop their worst projects IMO as they all tried to appeal to the mainstream and I wasn’t feeling all of their last albums. ‘Everybody Cant Go’ was okay, just too predictable at this point. Anyways I’m hoping Stove God Cooks, Boldy and Mach-Hommy drop albums under the label this year and bring back that grimey feeling.
There it is, there is my rant.
Brother came with DATA. Cant do nothing but respect that! I appreciate your “rant” speaking facts
Haha yeah I’m a huge nerd when it comes to this hip-hop shit lol. That’s why I love the genre though. Only hip-hop has this level of completion and it’s just fun to be around for it.
Ah my two favorite rap groups. I’m giving it to TDE, 7 game series
Bas to high to Riot mixtape is fire 🔥.
The picks were insane from jump with you choosing Ari. SZA has 2 classic albums with barely any skips, does better on features & is a better lyricist. No comp but entertaining video!
This just a good battle either way
I want money!😂 jk good job bro im watching every video
🤣🤣
JID vs Ab Soul would be ☄️☄️☄️☄️☄️☄️☄️☄️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
You ever listen to Bas - Icarus or Pinball II
Icarus I have!
Damn, no Reason on that flyer. I wonder why?
That man is blackballed by his own label
@@_FLWRS unfortunately it seems that way.
Dreamville give us a lot of music
I feel the determining factor for the J. Cole and Kendrick one should be there Black Friday freestyles they did a while back
Idk I feel like Cole was having fun there and Kendrick was tryna just rip that beat
Who do you feel had the better verse?
I just re listened to both... I feel like Cole's was more unexpected because around the time his remix dropped every body was saying his raps are "boring"
Kendrick had just dropped to pimp a butterfly so I think it was kinda lost in the light of that album, we where all like oh Kendrick is just doing what he does on every song. So there wasn't as big of a surprise factor besides it being on a Cole beat.
That's long way of me saying Cole, because it does sound like he was just having fun with the beat more, and he surprised a lot of critics snapping like he did.
@notmr.barocksonjohnson570 (I agree with you
@@_FLWRS
Bas nice. 179 Deli, Ho Chi Minh, Too High To Riot (The whole album)
Underrated track by Lute - Eye To Eye
Damn no reason lol did they drop bro
They sent that man to live with his grandma
Yes
JID vs Isaiah is a tough matchup fuck. Personally I think I enjoy Isaiah's music more probably cause the nostalgia I get when I think about TST and Cilvia Demo. If we're being honest though JID is bar for bar much better and more technically skilled.
An Ab-Soul x Westside Gunn track could be golden
I hope your Bas takes have changed some since our last breif conversation 😂
You bout to be disappointed bro 😂
TDE vs Dreamville would be crazy. $250!!! But I got Dreamville in this tho
reason aint on the list?
So ready for the algorithm to run this up after the Kendrick diss
I could only hope brother
Kenny Mason needs to just gone head and sign to Dreamville already.
Salvador Gonzalez - Light
Yao Ming by Bas is fire 🔥
TDE has the more grounded rappers who've been in the game longer. But dreamville even tho they're kinda newer than tde, are growing quickly, as both, individual rappers and a group
So im picking dreamville
Road to 3k🔥🔥
So close!
I ain’t excited for an tde compilation album because Kendrick is most likely ain’t gonna be on there he hasn’t been on any of the labels recent albums and ik he had background vocals on ab-souls recent album but it wasn’t an actual verse and bet it was recorded before Kendrick left tde I’ll bet they have bad blood behind the scenes despite what they said publicly
Damn I hope that ain’t true but everyone has to move on one day
Cole hard 🔥
yeh i can’t wait for that tde comp album but will kfk be on it?
I think so just cause he has such a good relationship with all of them still
TDE has higher album replay value than Dreamville for me. With Cole being the exception
thats insane
I subbed
Terrorist Threats - Ab Soul, Jhene Aiko
Where was reason on the list?
He wasn’t 😭
Ready for that new jay Rock it's been almost 6 years
6 years is wild
ooohhhh yeaaahhhhh
Ari Lenox over sza!? I like Ari and she’s okay but she don’t got a single album or project that’s messing with cntrl or even sos
I agree with you! I just really been feeling ari this passed couple of weeks
Baby Keem 💯👌🏾🤘🏾
Dreamville V. TDE don't feel dah same without kendrick
bro bas in the song diamonds is gas fam, but i get wat u mean school boy q has a diffferent and unique style
Jid is more than all
Ofc we get TDE vs Dreamville when Kendrick ain’t on TDE anymore 😂
Earthgang vs Q and Ab
Devin Malik so good
Bas has been as consistent and anyone on tde come on na
Kenny Mason is too tough
Ion know cuz Kendrick Lamar is dumb raw but when it come to artistic lyricism, J Cole got it
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