WR hands down because it's exciting seeing #12 catch that ball. Everyone loves seeing him make plays after the catch. At the corner position, he is a beast, but it's not as exciting.
Exciting doesn't matter in a world where you can have an eraser player on one side of the field, with the stamina/energy to still get schemed up in 15-20 plays on offense too if need be
@@1538supermanhe won’t because he can’t even practice with the team because he’s so banged up. And you can’t just not practice in the nfl this ain’t the big 12 where everyone is a cake show
Travis is ready to be an elite corner right now. Travis could also be an elite receiver, but his route running lacks polish. He’s just a freak, he’s able to simply out athlete folks. That won’t work in the NFL, the NFL has freaks too. Travis was the only freak on the field for many of his games. More likely than not, he’s a corner who occasionally gets snaps on offense. Like Deion did. Barring injuries, he’s gonna be an awesome pro regardless of what he plays. There really aren’t any red flags in his game or personality.
His ball skills are more rare for a corner than a receiver. He’s simply electric with the ball in his hands. If he was 20 lbs heavier he could be a Ed Reed type safety
He’s better than Ed Reed was going into the NFL. He’s still not even close to his peak yet. Deion even said Travis is further along than him at this age.
he should go wr for financial stability and family reasons. thats millions off the table as a cb, plus a lockdown cb becomes a boring position once you establish you’re that much of a threat
I don’t think yall realize how much these boys got paid during college lol if he invested properly, he’s miles ahead of the average player in the nfl today
An average corner makes more than an average receiver. If anything it’s better to be a corner but that being said he will make more as a elite receiver then corner
Honestly, jokes aside. That just comes down to bad recruiting on CO's part. They need to do better in the recruiting dept so he doesn't have to play that much. He might have packages in the NFL for him to have the ball....but not much if I had to guess....he needs to keep some tread on them tires for a long career. What he's doing is great, but it's not sustainable
Gordie Lockbaum'88 Holy Cross Worcester MA 1986 and 1987 did this as well. played rb, wr, corner safety and kick returner finished top5 heisman two yrs in row
❤ let's not forget he has no pick sixs other then 1 year hes never lead the ncaa in picks hes a wide receivers look at top pick guys in history hes no where close to top 30
Our high school badass was all-state WR and all-state defensive end. A lot of us were surprised when he didn't pursue offense in college. He's gone on to win two superbowls with these two, on the Patriots. Kyle Van Noy.
@ you can put all offensive plays together and they still not better than the 1 goal line force fumble to win the game. Never seen that done in a game college or pros and he did it at cornerback.
I think with calves it's often ratio more than actual size. If I think about it from a ballet point of view, it's easiest to stabilize movements where calves generate force over the glutes and upper legs, but they're also weaker. If the glutes get to generate the most power the lower legs look small relative to the other muscles that get to develop efficiently. I used to think until the Wizards released a video of Russell Westbrook (who looked like he had small calves) tying his shoes and it was obvious his Calves were in fact massive to the point they were the biggest calves I thought I had ever seen, but they looked small relative to the rest of his body. I also think when you look at "bird calves", if you look at the shape of the bone and where the muscle sits, bird calves are probably also just a sign that there's good alignment between the femur and the back of the ankle, and that the muscle is able to expand and contract at a more optimal alignment. But I think generally speaking its difficult to isolate athletic traits by looking just at one part of the body, in isolation if you have the most explosive butt and bird calves in the world but if they don't work together with the core/spine you'll probably just injure yourself.
Nah, he’s explosive at Both. Idk if you seen his college highlights both at JSU and Colorado but it truly is legendary. There wasn’t a single receiver in the country better than him
This podcast is so great.. Tom needs to join it so they can be the three musketeers.. If it was Tom, Jules and Gronk it would be the greatest thing ever..
Good job, These are the first guys that actually have sense and says it is up to Travis. everyone else is saying he should only play one side i suspect they are saying that because they can never do what he is doing.
I think Travis is a PHENOMENAL athlete but he's not guarding Zay flowers one side and then turn around and think he's gonna beat a Kyle Hamilton at full strength it's just not reality now everyone he plays is a freak athlete
i think he’s good at both for sure… what do you guys think about how his body/frame/size will hold up to the constant pounding of the nfl… even bo jackson ran into that… and you two as well…?
Travis is a once in a time talent.if you want his absolute best you have to let him play both sides..you can see it makes him ticked and more engaged in the game
I think he's a WR first, dime package corner second, as well as punt returner. Who knows? It depends entirely on the drafting team's needs, and how his game translates from college to the NFL - which it may not do at all.
@@nickdiaz4961but I think he’s best a db if he comes to the patriots because the patriots need another threat at db but I also can see him playing 10 snaps on offense every game and playing db as well 10 snaps per game on offense I can see that happening most definitely and we can go get tee Higgins in free agency and I starting receivers can be hunter, Higgins, and pop Douglas and I think baker will get that z spot and outplay Jalyn Polk tbh I can see it happening most definitely for sure and Bourne not go be here next year on the team and boutte might not make the roster idk
Yeah pats got Christian G solid young CB & Javon Baker & Jalyn Polk there both good it would surprise me if they didn’t pan out by year 2/3 in league. Not sure they true WR 1’s but, Baker has flashes if he can translate to NFL. Def wr 2 & 3 @ worst
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That game saving tackle/fumble sealed it for me. Video game like for sure
That was early in the season he sealed it when he had that pik against ucf
@@kosmisfit1301ok? he literally just said that ? stfu and take the comment pusc
Travis Hunter is blessed with that Floyd Mayweather stamina with crazy ball skills and he’s an absolutely a dawg. He’s rare man.
That breakdown of learning the other side of the ball was dope.
I’m genuinely impressed with Gronks analysis
WR hands down because it's exciting seeing #12 catch that ball. Everyone loves seeing him make plays after the catch. At the corner position, he is a beast, but it's not as exciting.
He better at corner tho up to the coach
Exciting doesn't matter in a world where you can have an eraser player on one side of the field, with the stamina/energy to still get schemed up in 15-20 plays on offense too if need be
@igweugo i don't agree but i respect your opinion
“Dudes on Dudes” how tf did this title pass selection
Sounds kinda fruity lol
2 dudes 1 dude
😂😂😂😂
We play both ways
@@JaceArvizokinda?!
Travis is probably going to be a full time CB but with certain packages where he can play snaps on offense, similar to what Deion did
But he’s a way better receiver than Deion ever was!
@@howarddickersonjr.6994 yeah Deion couldn't catch a cold 😂 but imagine if he could.. he woulda been elite
@@Cynsham Crazy part is WHAT IF he’s the first player to ever play both sides of ball full time though
Other way around WR’s get paid more & it’s all the $$$
@@1538supermanhe won’t because he can’t even practice with the team because he’s so banged up. And you can’t just not practice in the nfl this ain’t the big 12 where everyone is a cake show
You guys bring the humor on every episode. Loved the calf implant talk!
Travis is ready to be an elite corner right now. Travis could also be an elite receiver, but his route running lacks polish. He’s just a freak, he’s able to simply out athlete folks. That won’t work in the NFL, the NFL has freaks too. Travis was the only freak on the field for many of his games. More likely than not, he’s a corner who occasionally gets snaps on offense. Like Deion did. Barring injuries, he’s gonna be an awesome pro regardless of what he plays. There really aren’t any red flags in his game or personality.
If I was Travis, I’d go WR because the pay, highest paid WRs get 30+ M a year and best CBs top out at 24m a year
My opinion I think next year he will do good but if he can stay healthy his 2nd and 3rd year in the league he will be balling
Funny Gronk said he would prolly get a Raptor instead of a Lambo & that’s exactly what Travis has
Jules is actually the last NFL player to play both sides in a real game
Nope
Marcus Jones did it his rookie year also
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Deion did it as well
Devin Hester just went in the HOF doing it
His ball skills are more rare for a corner than a receiver. He’s simply electric with the ball in his hands. If he was 20 lbs heavier he could be a Ed Reed type safety
He’s better than Ed Reed was going into the NFL. He’s still not even close to his peak yet. Deion even said Travis is further along than him at this age.
@@lees5953 u didn't watch ed reed at miami
@@lees5953 better than Reed at what though? He was a safety all through college. But as a corner I’ll trust anything Coach Prime says about Hunter lol
@@_sinxseer yeah Reed was ridiculous. But purely on ball skills, Hunter is at least as good as Reed
@@Futurelawyer812crazy good ball skills only thing that could worry a team is his size and durability
he should go wr for financial stability and family reasons. thats millions off the table as a cb, plus a lockdown cb becomes a boring position once you establish you’re that much of a threat
Facts
I don’t think yall realize how much these boys got paid during college lol if he invested properly, he’s miles ahead of the average player in the nfl today
An average corner makes more than an average receiver. If anything it’s better to be a corner but that being said he will make more as a elite receiver then corner
@@kdawg2472 travis donated much of his NIL money to teammates.
Great Show!
People avoid throwing at he when he is playing corner....nobody ever played more snaps in the history of the game that's insane what Travis is doing
Honestly, jokes aside. That just comes down to bad recruiting on CO's part. They need to do better in the recruiting dept so he doesn't have to play that much. He might have packages in the NFL for him to have the ball....but not much if I had to guess....he needs to keep some tread on them tires for a long career. What he's doing is great, but it's not sustainable
Gordie Lockbaum'88 Holy Cross Worcester MA 1986 and 1987 did this as well. played rb, wr, corner safety and kick returner finished top5 heisman two yrs in row
❤ let's not forget he has no pick sixs other then 1 year hes never lead the ncaa in picks hes a wide receivers look at top pick guys in history hes no where close to top 30
Did he do it full-time on both sides or packages?
But he wasn’t really that great of a player
@@alifrombenhill3374 yes. Played 143 snaps vs army. Didnt have the talent of hunter
@@jason5265 well he did do it at even more positions than hunter and dudes on dudes didnt think anyone has done it.
Our high school badass was all-state WR and all-state defensive end. A lot of us were surprised when he didn't pursue offense in college. He's gone on to win two superbowls with these two, on the Patriots. Kyle Van Noy.
Don’t understand how he gets the Biletnikoff instead of the Thorpe. Made explosive plays at corner.
Made way more explosive plays on offense. More opportunities
especially since
he allowed 22 catches 205 yards and 1 td all year. 4 picks 11 PDs. thats 2 catches a game, 17 yards per game
Bc of hating and not wanting him to win everything. He would have beat out those 3 dbs
CFB politics. I thought they could've done Thorpe and not Biletnikoff as well
@ you can put all offensive plays together and they still not better than the 1 goal line force fumble to win the game. Never seen that done in a game college or pros and he did it at cornerback.
I think with calves it's often ratio more than actual size. If I think about it from a ballet point of view, it's easiest to stabilize movements where calves generate force over the glutes and upper legs, but they're also weaker.
If the glutes get to generate the most power the lower legs look small relative to the other muscles that get to develop efficiently.
I used to think until the Wizards released a video of Russell Westbrook (who looked like he had small calves) tying his shoes and it was obvious his Calves were in fact massive to the point they were the biggest calves I thought I had ever seen, but they looked small relative to the rest of his body.
I also think when you look at "bird calves", if you look at the shape of the bone and where the muscle sits, bird calves are probably also just a sign that there's good alignment between the femur and the back of the ankle, and that the muscle is able to expand and contract at a more optimal alignment.
But I think generally speaking its difficult to isolate athletic traits by looking just at one part of the body, in isolation if you have the most explosive butt and bird calves in the world but if they don't work together with the core/spine you'll probably just injure yourself.
Trav wants to play both ways. Everyone said he could not do it at the college level, he proved him wrong.
He's a better CB by far. He's unpolished at wr. He's a natural corner
Just like his mentor Deon...😮🤷 Maybe it's coincidental and maybe it's fake, only the draft and time will tell
Nah, he’s explosive at Both. Idk if you seen his college highlights both at JSU and Colorado but it truly is legendary. There wasn’t a single receiver in the country better than him
Let’s leave that to the. Scouts and not the espn narrative
Keep the TH-cam scouting to yourself
lol he better at wide out now
This podcast is so great.. Tom needs to join it so they can be the three musketeers.. If it was Tom, Jules and Gronk it would be the greatest thing ever..
I would LOVE to see the Pats draft this kid. 2nd and 3rd down WR and every down CB
Good job, These are the first guys that actually have sense and says it is up to Travis. everyone else is saying he should only play one side i suspect they are saying that because they can never do what he is doing.
He can maybe do FT one side (CB) and PT (WR) on the other. Doing both FT is going to make his NFL career short
I think Travis is a PHENOMENAL athlete but he's not guarding Zay flowers one side and then turn around and think he's gonna beat a Kyle Hamilton at full strength it's just not reality now everyone he plays is a freak athlete
@w.e714 exactly. He is not going to move out of Derrick Henry's way one drive and then next, avoid getting hit by Roquan Smith and Kyle Hamilton
i think he’s good at both for sure… what do you guys think about how his body/frame/size will hold up to the constant pounding of the nfl… even bo jackson ran into that… and you two as well…?
Averaging 114 plays is so insane and I get Jeanty but that’s completely ridiculous. What a total fkn beast.
Why dont they have all recievers sit in on DB meetings if it makes such a difference?
Travis is a once in a time talent.if you want his absolute best you have to let him play both sides..you can see it makes him ticked and more engaged in the game
“Dudes on dudes”??? How old is this pod? How have I not heard of this lmao 😂😂😂
People need to realize Travis is HIM!
I think he's a WR first, dime package corner second, as well as punt returner.
Who knows? It depends entirely on the drafting team's needs, and how his game translates from college to the NFL - which it may not do at all.
Love this show
We wanna know just how good he is hope he lives up to the hype and is used correctly
Pats fans appreciate this breakdown….we’re not sure about him because we need wr1 help
Great wideout, and phenomenal zone corner. 3wr set Wideout and zone corner
This guys got the best ball skills I’ve ever seen. He’s going to to be a stud on both ends
@@nickdiaz4961but I think he’s best a db if he comes to the patriots because the patriots need another threat at db but I also can see him playing 10 snaps on offense every game and playing db as well 10 snaps per game on offense I can see that happening most definitely and we can go get tee Higgins in free agency and I starting receivers can be hunter, Higgins, and pop Douglas and I think baker will get that z spot and outplay Jalyn Polk tbh I can see it happening most definitely for sure and Bourne not go be here next year on the team and boutte might not make the roster idk
Yeah pats got Christian G solid young CB & Javon Baker & Jalyn Polk there both good it would surprise me if they didn’t pan out by year 2/3 in league. Not sure they true WR 1’s but, Baker has flashes if he can translate to NFL. Def wr 2 & 3 @ worst
@ I don’t have much faith in Polk, still can’t believe they traded down one spot when they could’ve had McConkey. Baker could be good
It all depends on where he gets drafted to one team may need a reccever or a team may need a cb
Jules: QB, WR, DB, PR ❤️
Can you talk about the tight end with 1'300 yards over 10 td
Harold
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Rec100
YDS 1,342
TD 9
AVG13.4
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I keep saying that he's building a powerhouse, its more players who can go both ways, it's a heck of a training regimen, its a lot, but it can work
Great topic
I’d prefer having a solid group of 3-4 DBs than WRs. Especially considering the skill difference from college to pros for the two positions.
Are they in the old flagrant studio?
For the record Deion didn’t WANT the job at Florida State. It’s false that he DIDNT get the job. Keep it all the way 💯💯
I could see Gronk being a TE coach.
Interesting subject. I like it.
Because it is a new unknown type of player.
😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂
Defiinitely a CB in the NFL
Ain’t possibly heisman winner anymore he is the winner
He is a wr .plain and simple that can aid the defense if he needs too.
Nah
He a CB
Lock down corner , good receiver what would u want
He’s a better corner then receiver
I think he should play QB
Bubs,the kid would look good in red and white and blue .
Busy busy busy! Great job my love💞
Bird calves 💀😭😭😭😭
This one is gonna be interesting.🤔
Where all the haters at that said Travis ain’t a top tier receiver or corner? These are nfl players praising Travis hunters ball play
I agree wit gronk he's more talented at wr. I'll have him playing wr and slot corner back. I feel that'll be the best way to utilize him
Wr it’s easy. You can make 3 times the money. And what does a great db score 3 tds a year. A wr makes 6 and is mediocre
Travis Hunter would be elite at both. It all depends what he chooses.
Smarter to play DB corner last longer. Hunter might be able to do both or here and there.
3 million in college:
1st Buy a home for about $300k
2nd Buy VTI, SCHD, QQQM (1 million total)
- 500k in VTI
- 250K In SCHD
- 250k QQQM
Mental Health and Physical Health investment
LASTLY, leave the rest in a HIGH YIELD SAVINGS for future investments…the interest would go into Dollar Cost Average into those three ETF’S forever!
Either way, he has the bite force of a nile crocodile
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I think he's a better wide receiver, but he's so small. His ball skills and hands are A1]
I think he should stay another year give himself a chance to get his body more ready for nfl
You don't get paid more playing two positions. You are just getting at 50% discount if you get a 2 way player.
Just imagine Tom Brady Bringing His Number Out Of Retirement For Travis Hunter If He Goes To Pats
Barry Sanders legs where living trees 😂
Earl!!!
I think he should do WR. Body is built more for that and more longevity and $$
Good job Gronk! I heard you couldn’t read some where, but I’m glad it’s not true.
Jeanty should have won!
BOTH
if even gronk says he's better at WR then i don't think i'm tripping. so many guys have said when they watch his tape he's a great potential wr
Not expecting much from him in either position at the NFL level.
He said bird calf 😂😂😂😂😂🎉🎉
Chris Gamble is the last 1 to play like this.
I would worry about his durability due to his frame.
He was running thier routes before they got the ball.
His hands are ridiculous
Like Hester they will make him play CB. Then convert to WR and slot WR…
Wide receivers get paid more so I would say wr plus your more of a star
Patriots gotta draft him
He can run routes a, touchdown magnet and can cover with wr hands! he’s an asset on both sides
He gonna sign 2 contracts lmao 🤣
Big budget sign in the back.
Travis is not a Florida native he from GA GA GA GA DOWN SOUTH
Julian Edkleman
Defenders don’t make more money than offensive players. If you compare CB to WR.
Myles Jack did it
I’d put him full time wr and then throw him in that nickel or on big passing drives
WR’s make more money than DB’s
Ashton Jeanty!
I wanna 1v1 gronk in halo now
Richard Sherman prototype
He won't play both ways in the NFL, so which side is he going to be drafted? He's not an elite wr so it has to be CB.
16:07 their job is so hard. 😅
🤣🤣🤣this title hilarious
Need that Bradshaw shirt lol
Good WR, Average corner. Jeanty should have won the heisman.
Put some respect on Cream Biggums name!! 😂