Wilderness First Aid Mistakes And Why I Don't Carry a Tourniquet

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  • @johnburgin7478
    @johnburgin7478 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Riggs is pretty outspoken on this topic as well . Don’t own any but debated on getting one for each vehicle. Solid video. Have a great day

  • @lorkainenkingg8497
    @lorkainenkingg8497 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great points, Stoke! Especially the one about the TQ causing pain when applied properly! My position is: "carry one if you want (but know how to use it correctly); or don't."

  • @Old52Guy
    @Old52Guy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Every outdoors person should watch this and take notes.

  • @ricksilver7398
    @ricksilver7398 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cravat is the old school way, and that's all we used in the 70s. I'm not sure when they issued the turnickit. Poncho was used for sucking chest wounds. It seems to constantly change, but the end result is what makes the in the end

  • @dennisseverns4014
    @dennisseverns4014 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I was trained as a combat lifesaver in the early 90s, when they stressed IV therapy. So we carried the old style Combat/Battle Dressings, Cravats and IVs and SAM splints in our Combat Lifesaver kits. We were taught improvised tourniquets and improvised chest seals.
    When I got out of the Army I kept that kit, minus the IVs, and it became the basis for my truck first aid kit. Roughly 12 years later in 2003, I was still carrying that kit. There was a guy I was working with at a tree company, who cut his arm pretty bad with a chainsaw. After getting him to the ground, I had him put pressure on it, and I opened one of those Cravats, the Cravat literally fell apart in my hand. Then the Battle Dressings I opened up, the cotton wrap just fell apart as well. Ended up using a piece of T-shirt to make a restriction band to slow the bleeding, them had to dig around in the bag till I found an ace bandage to use with the Battle Dressings to create a pressure bandage. My training went back to the days when we were taught that tourniquets we're bad and only used as a last resort. Turned out this guy probably did not need a tourniquet, but it made me realize I needed to update my training as well as the equipment I carried. Since then I have done wilderness first aid, emergency first responder, MARCHE and TCCC training.

    • @STOKERMATIC
      @STOKERMATIC  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      So glad you were they for your coworker!

    • @Z7d3nR4
      @Z7d3nR4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The folks who were life-savers, medics, and such, who are able to use their knowledge in civilian life are some of the most valuable members of our society.

    • @dennisseverns4014
      @dennisseverns4014 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Z7d3nR4 have to agree, medical protocols have definitely changed, for the better since I was first trained, war does that.

  • @alramlebsi549
    @alramlebsi549 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks Stoker. This was the tourniquet video youtube desperately needed. No other tourniquet video on ytube i have seen (and i have looked) even comes close to touching this video.

  • @mikec.8556
    @mikec.8556 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Glad you brought up the facts about tourniquets …..

  • @lancebrown9567
    @lancebrown9567 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good video and points raised. One thing I see a lot is guys thinking that just because they bought the tq they're good. That if they have hemorrhaging and apply a tq that's where the care stops.

  • @Chumly223
    @Chumly223 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I needed one at work. Fantastic item. Keep one

  • @deanoverton4440
    @deanoverton4440 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes I just watched your video on turniqit and when I was much younger I was tought field first aid and one of the things I was tought was improvising a turniqit was to use two bandanas as a turniqit in a pinch and I thank you for your videos I have learned a lot and I thank you for that sire

  • @caborico0677
    @caborico0677 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tourniquet use wasn't on my radar screen as gear for my wilderness aid and honestly I agree training training training is a critical element for the proper use. Thank you for producing this video.
    Always high standards I come to expect from Stoker!

  • @elric68
    @elric68 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I carry a SOFT and a RAT tourniquet in the car kit, and usually have one in the daypack. It’s light enough to be cheap insurance to have on hand.
    Some experts say if you conceal carry, one should have one… which seems reasonable. I say if you plan on using an ax in the woods, one should also have one. Cutting accidents happen, and when seconds count it pays dividends to apply a readymade tourniquet and figure out how to egress the area.
    Definitely taking a “Stop the Bleed or a civilian TCCC course” regularly (maybe once a year or every other…?) to maintain proficiency, sort of like CPR.
    Good thoughts Top!!!
    Keep up the Fire!

  • @oldschooltakingyaback
    @oldschooltakingyaback 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Got trained by Dark Angel Medical, and I'll still carry my TQ. It's just a simple thing to carry for me, but that statistic about only a couple thousand used? That was surprising. I'd just rather have something ready to go than to be creating one on the fly.

  • @229dave46
    @229dave46 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great points, Great Channel!!

  • @MicahFunk
    @MicahFunk 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good reminders for anyone

  • @keithrayeski6417
    @keithrayeski6417 ปีที่แล้ว

    There’s nothing I can add here. A whole lot of great advice has been shared! Thanks for initiating the conversation Top! I have them. I carry them. I doubt very highly, that I will ever USE them. But, better to have it and not need it! The valuable point was the kit that sat unused for 12 years and had turned to dust. Check your kids! Update your supplies. Know HOW to use it…the rest will work itself out.
    Another STOKED special episode!!👊🏻🇺🇸😁

  • @GruntProof
    @GruntProof 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    good stuff dude!

  • @Mr_A_Observations
    @Mr_A_Observations 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    if im armed i usually have a TQ. If im chainsawing I carry a TQ as most injuries are to legs and arms. I also keep a few in my truck after coming upon accidents with people suffering from severe open fractures. If you do carry one, get training. At least take a stop the bleed course. Stay frosty everyone!

  • @mehmetkupeli8611
    @mehmetkupeli8611 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another Grrreat! Video! Very timely

  • @Z7d3nR4
    @Z7d3nR4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very knowledgeable dog.

  • @outdoorvideoswithbrad
    @outdoorvideoswithbrad 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ya I never understood the hype on tourniquet either, I do lots of camping and hiking and fixed plenty of my own wounds and only ever used electrical tape which saved my finger cause one time I almost cut the tip of my finger off but managed to stop the bleeding right away with electrical tape that I always carry in my pocket cause it’s water proof, and the second thing I use is gauze, I got all kinds of medical supplies for wounds and stitches and only own one tourniquet, a bandanna or rope can do the same in a pinch

  • @miken7629
    @miken7629 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    When I was hiking on Appalachian Trail (2019) there was a machete attack that killed one and severely injured another. After that I added tourniquet, gauze roll, cohesive wrap, and 5x9 sterile bandages. Hope it never gets used but I have it in case someone needs help. Would only use tourniquet on arterial wounds. We are often so far away from help, with no cell service, that if a tourniquet has to be used, it will take hours or days to get that person to a hospital, and that limb will be lost.

    • @STOKERMATIC
      @STOKERMATIC  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Can be better to have and not need, than to need and not have.

  • @terrymeals6098
    @terrymeals6098 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great info , thanks

  • @acerrubrum5749
    @acerrubrum5749 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent, thanks

  • @MichaelR58
    @MichaelR58 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video , thanks for sharing , God bless !

  • @stevenkeithley4336
    @stevenkeithley4336 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Stoker great video bud keep'em coming. I myself use a very minimum first aid kit. I would use my belt if needed, it's not leather lol. I do carry ace bandedges though. Stay safe and be well brother. 👊😎🤙🍻🇺🇸

  • @celsocosta4845
    @celsocosta4845 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey great video, what brand JACKET are you wearing? I like it

  • @Just_Chuck_It
    @Just_Chuck_It 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a police officer, former EMT and having received a ton of training in combat medical and lifesaving as I am a squad leader in our local community Emergency Response Team (ERT). I can tell you that a tourniquet being as light weight as they are, it's worth the weight and it's worth the money. As long as you understand the limitations, have received appropriate training, and you make sure that you maintain your tourniquet properly there is no reason to not carry one.
    3 biggest mistakes.
    1) improper storage.
    Storing it on the exterior of your kit that exposed to UV light that tourniquet will only be viable for about 1 year.
    2) have the tourniquet staged properly.
    3) have training....... This one can't be emphasized enough.......
    Personally, I prefer the SWAT-T tourniquet. It is not only a tourniquet, it is also a pressure dressing, sling, wound wrap, ect.
    It is absolutely an effective tourniquet and it is effective on children, has the instructions right on the unit, and it is light weight and can be carried in a pocket.
    I keep the SWAT-T in my outdoors kits for these reasons.

    • @STOKERMATIC
      @STOKERMATIC  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Appreciate ya and your service to your community!!

  • @stewarttrains98
    @stewarttrains98 ปีที่แล้ว

    That wasn't the "exercise" I was expecting. But that was a good one.

  • @alvintarrer6914
    @alvintarrer6914 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you

  • @jamest5081
    @jamest5081 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My only problem with improvised TQs is that they aren't one handed. So, if your arm is wounded and you need a TQ, thats a problem. I also find them pretty tough to apply compared to commercial ones. Having used CATs quite a few time in my career, I have seen the effectiveness. So, someone who uses this technique you showed has to consider that downside: self application to the upper extremity will be impossible. That said, it is a nice middle ground: having the cravats and something to make a windlass gives some TQ capability, which mitigates some of the risk of not having one.
    I also think that anyone who carries a gun in the woods absolutely needs one. If someone has a gun with them, the probability of a bullet wound is much higher.

  • @brentwentfishing
    @brentwentfishing 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the information Top. I have two in my vehicle first aid kit and hope that I never need to use them. That four-count exercise should take care of those pearls! 🤣

    • @STOKERMATIC
      @STOKERMATIC  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Better to have and not need!

  • @DJTheMetalheadMercenary
    @DJTheMetalheadMercenary 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good stuff Top. Also, most Rifle Slings are the perfect width for an ad hoc TQ, not so much necessary if you're rolling full Battle Rattle and have multiple TQ's on you, but it's useful info for Hunters.
    That exercise is hilarious!!! Hahahahahahahahahaa 🤣

  • @stacywilliams1710
    @stacywilliams1710 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good job Sir

  • @recondo4u
    @recondo4u ปีที่แล้ว

    Good stuff!

  • @Guazi
    @Guazi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the info

  • @TheMountainRN
    @TheMountainRN ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree tourniquet is overhyped for none tactical environment. The Society of wilderness medicine in it’s recommendation go with direct pressure and pressure dressing before the tourniquet. Tactical medicine has it’s own approach and logic for its used. That’s where people confused them. One category i would add either carry special hemostat dressing or Even a tourniquet is people on anticoagulant. They would have more difficulty controlling the bleeding. Even report of people requiring transfusion from leeches.I have some in my hunting kits but a SWATT one in my regular kit. Can have multi used ans doesn’t take that much space in case i need it. I have replaced my cravate by koban now. More multi-used from splint , wound protection, sprain, bleeding even, never tested, i could see do a good improvised tourniquet.

  • @johnnyrebel5458
    @johnnyrebel5458 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m probably the only person that doesn’t carry a tourniquet. I do have a couple on my plate carrier though. What I carry is just some simple exercise bands(tubed) for tourniquets. They work excellent,I’ve had to use them at work twice so far. A plus is if you have lost or broken a band it only cost a couple bucks to replace. Not upwards of $30-$50 for a tourniquet.

  • @zefsurvival7962
    @zefsurvival7962 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good video. I probably agree that people need to assess their daily situation, and probably in most cases, if they are truthful, they are not carrying a TQ.
    My life experience is that people fail to invest in training ... sadly if you are well trained with a TQ and improvised TQ, you would probably have a real TQ available...and if you are not trained the average person with mess up putting on either correctly. It's similar to my pet peave about improvised fire's anyone who is Good at improvised fire's will not be caught dead without a lighter.
    Equipment without real-world training is just a survival Goodluck charm.
    If I remember correctly after the Boston marathon bombing... a study was done, and not 1 improvised TQ was effective... Basically, invest in training.

    • @STOKERMATIC
      @STOKERMATIC  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great thoughts! Wasn’t tracking that about the marathon, interesting.

  • @BackcountryTripper
    @BackcountryTripper 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well said, agreed 100%

  • @Alienshark
    @Alienshark 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is great

  • @nexthubbins
    @nexthubbins ปีที่แล้ว

    They WILL BE USED at higher levels on revolution or without rule of law. Thus the need to inventory them. And carry during firearms trading woodwork.

  • @jaygibson5057
    @jaygibson5057 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have always walked past another person on the trail.

  • @joefennell7535
    @joefennell7535 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always a great one to toppers

  • @mehmetkupeli8611
    @mehmetkupeli8611 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I count the Cadence you count the reputations !

    • @STOKERMATIC
      @STOKERMATIC  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️

  • @marclucier2533
    @marclucier2533 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I prefer an Israeli bandage. Came up on a car wreck a couple of years ago. The guys forearm was pumping blood out. Applied the Israeli, until paramedics showed up

    • @STOKERMATIC
      @STOKERMATIC  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      So glad you were on the scene and took care of the injured!

  • @johndalessandro6433
    @johndalessandro6433 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Went to the local surplus store, the number two items I was looking for was a turnacit (sp?) And a Israeli bandage. They didn't have either. I learned how to make one out of a bandana but I'd rather use the real thing. Plus it's been a while since I've had first aid training, military, firefighter/ vehicle rescue technician , and at work. But I need a updated class cause things change so often. The Israeli bandage in most cases is good enough for direct pressure. But ya never know. Great video again Stoker!'I didn't think about setting up your turnacit as you showed us so thanks for another tool I can put I'm my tool box. And most of all, knockin' them pearls out will do me perfect for when I get the next ass reamin' from my wife lol

  • @warlord2pfa
    @warlord2pfa ปีที่แล้ว

    The more you know... 👍

  • @josephkuser3998
    @josephkuser3998 ปีที่แล้ว

    😂😂😂 that intro!

  • @dutchvanderbilt9969
    @dutchvanderbilt9969 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A tourniquet is one of those things that you're not going to end up using more likely than not. But even still it doesn't necessarily hurt to have one and know how to use it. What if you're putting together any kind of kid involving a tourniquet then take your time and get all the other stuff first and give the tourniquet some research and thought.

  • @TheQuantumPotato
    @TheQuantumPotato ปีที่แล้ว

    I basically agree with you - people definitely seem to think that a TQ is the be-all and end-all of treating traumatic injuries, and you're much more likely to need something like a regular bandage or pressure dressing. At the same time, I think it's one of those "rather have it and never need it" kind of things. Sometimes I take a hatchet out to the woods with me, sometimes I don't. If I have to remember to pack my TQ when I take the hatchet and I end up forgetting to pack it the one time I bury the thing in my leg and sever an artery like an idiot, I'm going to feel like an even bigger idiot bleeding to death in the woods when I might have been able to give myself a chance. So for that reason, I just always have it in a molle pouch on my gear in addition to an Israeli dressing, bandages, and regular first-aid stuff like a casualty blanket, band-aids, etc.

  • @heathcoat67
    @heathcoat67 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    here is some more "tears of a commy" for your flask.

  • @brandyhouston2105
    @brandyhouston2105 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    More exercises please!...lol..🤯🤔😎...question? How many hours can Rigs boy chase that stick?😁🐕 As to tourniquets, I always carry one but haven't learned the neck tie method for shutting up politicians/communists. If they're bleeding us dry....umm..If their bleeding...😎🤨

    • @STOKERMATIC
      @STOKERMATIC  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      All the hours! 🤣😂
      And when you find one, lemme know 👊🏴‍☠️

  • @rdaugherty52
    @rdaugherty52 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was a armed guard for 28 years God told me yes I hear from him occasionally he says get a Israeli bandage and a cat tourniquet yes sir right away. Now I have a separate back pack full of first aid equipment. Now I might not take it all with me maybe in the vehicle. One instance when a tourniquet could have been used a friend was cutting wood with a chain saw and dropped it on his leg above the knee he was one of those hard heads that thought no big deal no need to tell anyone and then he began to get dizzy from blood loss Now he's about 30 minutes from a hospital at the fastest. The Dr said he only had a few minutes before he would have been dead you never know. Now I just got in the mail a practice sewing kit to stich somebody up in a emergency hope that never happens.

    • @STOKERMATIC
      @STOKERMATIC  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Plenty of kits out there to get some practice! Glad your friend made it!

  • @ericl7917
    @ericl7917 ปีที่แล้ว

    If all those tourniquets are sold every year but only a few thousand are used......who keeps buying them?

    • @STOKERMATIC
      @STOKERMATIC  ปีที่แล้ว

      Great Q. Military buys a TON, imagine 1st responders do we well - plus all of the schools will replace their training stock.
      Or - someone is a hoarder. 🤣😂

  • @TAVAAR7
    @TAVAAR7 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    For the algorithm!

  • @AntiFederalist58
    @AntiFederalist58 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone who carries a firearm should carry a tournament. I keep two IFAKs in the car at all times. Tourniquets were a no-no when I first started EMS training. How things change.

  • @Dingleowl1582
    @Dingleowl1582 ปีที่แล้ว

    👍

  • @johnphillips9711
    @johnphillips9711 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    OMG 😂😂😂 pearls dropping every where

  • @wackzingo
    @wackzingo ปีที่แล้ว

    The entire prepper industry is built on selling far more useless and more expensive equipment to people preparing for far more unlikely situations. Tourniquets aren't that expensive at $30-50, they're small enough to easily bring with you and will last for many years and has the potential to saves lives. I just see no good reason why anyone shouldn't have one if they can afford one.

  • @krfloll
    @krfloll ปีที่แล้ว

    Why plan to improvise something that is so easy to carry, and potentially so important?

    • @STOKERMATIC
      @STOKERMATIC  ปีที่แล้ว

      Same reason I carry a map and compass.

  • @nedkarcich7973
    @nedkarcich7973 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I stopped carrying a tq in the woods. I carry an Israeli much more practical and with a stick it becomes a tq

  • @tomporter7185
    @tomporter7185 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this a piece of gear that you would recommend a dummy cord for? lol

  • @louiemorris9598
    @louiemorris9598 ปีที่แล้ว

    They have their place. When working the MARCH algorithm. With limited time and manpower. But like all skills. Medical is a perishable one. A good course to take is T.C.C.C..