INSANE CSX Locomotive Wheel Slip
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That's not wheelslip - it's a Loram rail grinder. lol
Why say that here
@@void3201 they're bots, I see them everywhere and they even comment on my videos
@Connor Matthew z
I Will agree with that lol
@@void3201 q
The sound of the diesel engine revving up is unbelievable!
that's the turbo
Andy V It's more than that
No mater how many times I see/hear one of those, I'm just in awe of the power.
Sounds like the engine in Spider-Man 2 after they speed up the engine on the subway train.
Sounds almost like an jet engine!
Speedometer-150 mph
Actual speed - 5 mph
Train conductor - “this is fine”
Thanks CrawlerJamie, very cool!
🙈😀👍👌
There has to be a way to tell, yes. Not concerned with excess wear on the drive wheels
Even old locomotives have wheelslip sensing and warning equipment, so I’m surprised that the driver didn’t notice.
Train Simulator Driver HUD in a nutshell.
Wheel Slip
Wheel Slip
Wheel Slip
-5345 points
So true
Nathan Rigby
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Lmfao.
The winner of fuckit not mine goes to that engineer
"Flat spots are gone, Jim!"
+GT Stang so is the profile.
GT Stang tytr
Great scene ! I witnessed almost the same with an old Indian ALCO here .
@Simran jena 🤣
It's been 6 years only
Noice
Now THAT is what I call horsepower!!!!,that wheel spin was wicked man...
First time I see train doing burn out
I know rigt holly shiz that burnout
yupppp.....i completely agree......burnout paradise
lol
KTM200 EXC I drive cane trains and being a young bloke I can't help but lay some sparks from time to time haha
Now lets see it do a wheelie!
Man, that is really extreme. Now one can imagine what those traction motors can do!!!! That's some serious power. Thank you for sharing!!!!!!
The power in these machines is fascinating to me for some reason.
You ought to experience one in self loadtest, up in notch 8, where the engine and main alternator are pumping out 4200 electrical horsepower.
You should see what a steam engine can put out
Same here.
My wife says I got autism lol.
@@BackyardSpaceProgramlmao 🤣
EMD:Let's go,Let's go,Let's go! GE:I'm Trying,I'm Trying!!!
TrainMan,Jozair Cringe.
LOL!
@@highlandwinterwolf8589 Best description of a GE i've ever heard...
That GE is putting those EMDs to shame. An AC4400CW has great adhesion and high tractive effort.
XD
Listen to those massive turbos. Sounds akin to a jet engine. Awesome.
gas turbine I think
80386 no that's turbo whine. All freight locomotives are diesel.
Gas turbine locomotives were almost completely phased out many years ago. These models are a 16 Cyl Diesel that drives electric traction motors that power the locomotives themselves.
you sure that wasnt the wheels? i thought it was the turbo at first too but...
Yes, the high whistle sound are the turbos. The wheels sound kind of like marbles (best analogy I could think of). You'll notice a puff of smoke around 0:14 as the engine powers down and the turbos start spinning up shortly after.
Wheel Slip -200 points-Train Simulator 2015
+Heinrich Berthold and thanks to train simulator going to 25% throttle from a stand still is instant wheel slip no matter the conditions
+Heinrich Berthold lol that alwas happens to me and if it was that bad it would be like -5000 points
bob _732 especially in the EMD 70 series, the wheel slip just happens. And the coupler slack on the SD70 pack is just game ruining.
+Heinrich Berthold Every fricken time lol
Had a jet train on quick drive.
Set it to a throttle, WHEEL SLIP.
Several trains in Sweden actually have traction control, and ABS. I think that is a pretty cool technology.
Back in the 19th century they dispensed sand on the rails. Then found out that it kinda acts like an angle grinder.
@@Professional_FunHaver They actually do on some trams still today!
@@Professional_FunHaver Lead wheel sand is still alive to this day on all USA Locomotives. It's a must.
@@Xanthopteryxall locomotives use sand.
@@EJayMD-11No. Several of them have no sand equipment.
I can only ever feel wheel slip when I'm on the unit. Never seen it before. Great video
Ummm, there a button on the console marked "SAND".
+Jeff Landuyt wonder why they did not use it
thats graphite............
you must be playing TS2016
written like a true railfan
with no sand in the tanks it wont do much
That was cool. You can really tell which locomotive has the more modern wheel slip technology.
The signal was being lost between the EXC and the WS section of the computer. Generator Field Excitation wasn't being cut back. WSA was working, because you had Lead Wheel Sand.
nonono... just polishing the tracks. csx is investing in the mirror business
Yus!!!!!!!!
+Roman BV They're trying to give LORAM a run for their money ;)
+Roman BV That will probably cause corrugated rail from the heating (uneven cooling)
Look Ma I can see myself on the rail !!
Fuck...is that true?
Ricer enthusiasts should not drive trains.
@ Click the video and look at the wheels.
Don't see many Asians being engineers lol.
@Lazys The Dank Engineer someone who modifies cars only to look racy.
@@maxshelltrack6131 There are a lot of train drivers in China alone. It is rare to see them since they rarely have level crossings.
@Lazys The Dank Engineer Race Inspired Cosmetic Enhancement. The last "r" is added to turn "RICE" into noun, usually referring to the person, or car.
My experience with wheelslip is that they start to hop, which can shear the pinion gear off the motor shaft. I've never heard of a nice, smooth peeeeeeeel like in this film. Very interesting. I'm sure that all the Dash 9s have automatic traction control as it adds considerably (like 20%) to the available tractive effort. I once was on a road switcher job that had two GP-40 locomotives. On our way back to the yard, we managed to gather up nearly two miles of cars, totaling around 11,000 tons. We didn't have too far to go, and evidently the dispatcher didn't mind that we were taking awhile lol. Engineer was doing pretty well at immediately backing off one notch whenever we felt wheel slip. Of course the sanders were on the whole time. Traction motors were running in the non-continuous current range. :)
LOL I've had those days. With a good engineer it's amazing what you can coax out of older power. The new locomotives take so much out of your control it's amazing (but damn efficient and fuel conservative)
Yea, and after that happens, don't put your hand on the truck. You'll burn yourself!
CSX tryin' to be a loram rail grinder.
Ha
Ha
Jacob Tompke ha
CSX is bullcrap and wasting of moneys!
TRAXX is the answer!
Ha
Yea, don't bother calling Loram, we got it.
nlie
LOL !!!!. Just needs the water at the rear end LOL
A good way of saving a little bit of money at the cost of overheating and burning out your very expensive traction motors
@@noahater5785 r/woooosh
During the late 1970’s while living in Lethbridge Alberta I saw this. Never forgot it. Great shot. Keep ‘em coming.
Great angles, great framerate, great camera, great video man.
Bravo, sir.
Shame about the intrusive pop-up title in the middle of the best part ! Why do that ?
By the time the pop up appears, the wheelslip is over.
trying to collect thumbs down probably
Pennsy Productions yeah that’s right
Railfans are anal about numbers.
You don't need pop ups in videos.
He did that wicked Burn-Out Intentionally... for the camera. That train driver is fucking sweet!!! Case Closed.
XD yea how many guys can say they did a burn out in a train?! Pretty freggin sweet if you ask me
No he just wanted a cigarette but his lighter ran out so he thought he would use sparks instead.
G vjo
Porra e ac44 pó vamos respeito
Not at all what happened.
I can imagine looking at the tracks after and hearing Phil Swift going "THATS A LOTTA DAMAGE"
I have loved trains since I was little and this thing sounds like music to my ears.
This train i believe is a GE Dash 9-44CW which weighs 425,000 pounds and has a power output of 4,400 HP.
Hearing that engine roar is really fun to me; and today as an adult the modern diesel locomotive still blows my mind in terms of sheer power and strength.
The M1 Abrams Tank weighs 110,000 pounds; this model of train is almost four M1 tanks, absolutely amazing engineering.
Close it's a ac4400cw only difference is the trucks and traction motors and the locomotive itself weighs 208 tonnes or 416000 pounds almost same things
@@wholelawyer good to know; thank you. Many models look the same so someone who knows the specifics helps
@@starlightdragon2665 yup especially EMDs SD40s 50 and 60 all look the same
You have to understand the equipment involved. The GE up front has high-adhesion and steerable trucks that perform much better than the EMD units trailing since they have the older EMD trucks before they started doing high-adhesion models. The engineer, in my opinion, throttled too soon for those units. I get they are probably used to working with newer locomotives that do take that kind of stress - especially AC units nowadays, but to do that with such older power behind you is NOT a good idea as you can see. He likely slowed the whole train down when that second unit lost traction as then the first GE probably took all the stress to make up for it.
Basically, slow and steady is sometimes better when you don't have all the right stuff. =)
Excellent analysis @SanteFebuff - I think you nailed it spot on! My thought was "too much throttle too soon", followed with the realization, "where the hell was the sand when you needed it?" Indeed, slow it back down, and throttle-up with FAR more patience. Give those EMDs a chance for cryin' out loud.
I don't know about y'all but the only thing I saw was those gas prices.
I'll be alright with just $2.00 a gal. forget that!
Brandon Miller 2.20 where i live rn, it was as low as 1.99 a gal a few weeks ago
Before the last hurricanes it was down to like 1.80 here but then they said there was a “shortage” in gas so they raised them to 2.30
I don't know what you are complaining about, in the UK its $7 per gallon of Diesel, that's why I drive a petrol, where it's only $5 per gallon :) Also I live in the UK, so it's pounds
Diesel = £1.32 average
Petrol = £1.23 average
(^ Per litre of fuel)
Diesel.
"Can you light 'er up?" "I'll see what I can do." "BAMMMMMMMMM."
Lower your drinks in front of Julian. Respect.
Train ricers trying to use vtech and cheap body kits to make sparks fly seems legit
lol i have no clue why i did this but
+jared tully lmao you shocked yourself
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jared tully CSX CIVICS WILL PLAQUE OUR RAILROADS!!!!!
Wow! I've never seen that happen up close before. Nice catch!
Great work, Delay In Block™ Productions! Can I use a portion of these video on my channel too? I'll mention your name and link to your video in the description!
nice to see CSX is regularly grinding their rails.
It's how they true up the wheels. 😆
Yep they layed off all the mow employees someone else has to step in for wallstreet.
As a diesel mechanic, this sounded awesome.
How to turn a locomotive into a rail grinder
hunter dawso blie
hunter dawso bb
That's EMD's automated wheel truing system at work....EMD's in Brazil (old ones) do the same thing.....great video!!!!
It’s been a long time since I’ve watched this video but I still appreciate that CSX 8666 still exists
Looks like the engineer is in a lot of hurry... :) great catch, well done!
That was amazing!
WOW!....
Fantastic!
0:20 That sound is pure gold. Gotta love that Revv up
Dude, how does it do that?!?! I was all like,' DUDE, HOW DOES A LOCOMOTIVE DO THAT?!?!?!" I mean I watched UNSTOPPABLE, and it's just like that, but it had less sparks flying out of the wheels. Very awesome video.
traction....slip......
Some of that was from tge automatic sanders, tyat spray sand at the track right in front of the wheel. It does that for traction. Track to wheel only has pressure to pull against, & maybe some rust. the sand gives some grit!
0:21 Super boost on!
Amazing!
Wow.. great capture
LOL Every time I read a section regarding the history of the SD50 or SD60 and how it has a revolutionary "Super Series" wheelslip control system, I can't help but chuckle or burst out laughing because it reminds me of this video! Heck, this video should be used as an official advertisement to promote the wheelslip functions, because I often think of it as one!
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The winged or flared radiators were only equipped on the GP40X testbeds. As for models like the SD45, they had flared, angled, or "winged" radiators or air intake vents to help further support the cooling of the big 20-645E3 engine; though only a handful of original 20-cylinder units still exist.
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LOL Yeah, beginning with the SD50 (other than the SD40X testbeds delivered to KCS and etc.), six-axle "SD" models were built with dynamic braking grids located behind the cab like with GE diesel locomotives.
The Grand Trunk tested SD60 demonstrators for several months, for units with "Super Series wheelslip control", They were always spinning their wheels regardless of track conditions, They were returned to EMD and we bought a bunch of used SD40-2's instead.
At least the Loram got a day off...
hahahahaha
thats funny dis dude right here^
Excellent Video I caught that ISRR Engine Being Delivered at Evansville Indiana a week after this was shot.
Cool video!
The train looks strong, powerful and authoritative. Thank you greetings from Indonesia.
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Love the turbo spool up!!
Amazing!!
Fantastically!
Must be running an Atlas and a Kato together...
LOL, my Kato's and Atlas run beautifully together after I speed match them! Maybe they're different decoders?..LOL
A truer statement has never been said.
+Historymaker2001 LOL..I gave up on my Genisis, even after hours of speed matching..., the new ones with the Tower 55 motor are supposed to be better??. Still prefer my Katos and Atlas.
+Historymaker2001 Sounds a bit like myself, most of my units are Kato or Atlas, with a few Proto's and a MTH.
+Historymaker2001 Atlas run superbly and I would say as good as Kato, their Silver series are very well detailed , up with the best, and come with a speaker enclosure and lots of weight. I'm lucky with BNSF as they make some Dash 8's in Swoosh paint, so I have a few of them, beautiful locos! I see your dilemma, I wish Kato made a Gevo!!!! The P2ks run great with their original drive, even better with the helical gearing., but of course , no newer locos:-(
Cheers Gregg
that turbo spool at 0:18 tho!!!
Superb catch ! 👍🏻
Bro I remember this was the first video on TH-cam I’ve watched 🤣 and now I’m back
CSX GE AC4400CW 572
(Ex-Conrail) CSX SD50-2 8666
Indiana Southern SD40-2 3388
Loram grinder crew, our grinder motor is bogging down. Hey Smitty, what's the serial number on the motor.
Ten minutes later, Boys those are regular traction motors, there was a mixup at the shop, they've got six of our motors on a loco.
Oh crap, tell the loco's owner to take that loco to the shop.
Wow that is amazing! Regards from Holland
Thanks 👍
that conductor was trying to be cool by doing a burn out ;)
aval1998 The conductor doesn't run the locomotives. An engineer does.
@@pkranz937 In some foreign countries the designation is just the opposite of how we address it in the U.S..
Mr.Einstein it’s not a burnout dummy. It’s called wheel slip and it happens when the train doesn’t have enough traction. That’s what sanders are for. Man the public really needs to get their train facts right!
Arnav Gairola why am I being woooshed? I was speaking facts dummy
CSX RF&P Guy r/wooosh
The burnout WAS THE JOKE. You didn’t get the joke, it is SATIRE. They don’t literally mean the engineer/conductor was doing an actual burnout for the camera! IT IS A JOKE. YOU GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT. I think people watching this video would know what wheel slip means for a locomotive.
0:35
Engineer: COME ON OL' BLUE!!!
Excellent💯
Awesome
What happens when jeremy clarkson drives a train.
COMEON POWAAAHHHH!
The 'Super Series' control system took a while to figure that one out lol..
His crazy over excited ass went to Notch 8! Nice video lol
Nice, interesting movie, cheers, Fabrizio
As someone with no technical knowledge in this field, I have a question : how can three wheels be aligned on the same bogie and still be able to take turns ?
The answer involves several things. One of them being the radius of the curve. another is that the wheel tread is not flat but slightly conical - wheels are fixed to axle and do not rotate independently, but distance on inner rail of curve is shorter than outer rail, so having conical tread helps with that. There is a small amount of side play in axle mountings. And some bogies are now designed with somewhat steerable wheelsets, also called a radial truck (truck is US English for bogie).
I'd have to look up where on line to find info, but one book source I have and know where it is, is Bulletin 126 of the Central Electric Railfans' Association, pages 118 to 120 cover wheel forces in curves.
Scott FW Thanks for the extensive and documented answer ! I somewhat find those things fascinating for some reason. I'll look further into that. Cheers !
Steam locomotives had a worse time of it, especially the big 10-driver wheels jobs.
Meanwhile on little logger engines with 6 drivers, it was not unusual for the center wheel to have no flange, relying on wider wheels and the flanges of the outer two wheels to hold the gauge.
I believe some locomotives have one set of wheels pivot independently from the main bogie to help on particularly sharp turns.
On CSX, that's not called wheel slip. It's called "extra rail grinding." XD
quite incredible !!...
great guys
terrible wheelslip :o
Salah server bang Mikael:v
I agree with you!!!
cool to know you can to burnouts with trains :)
Haha Locomotive Burnouts lol.
wait till they be doing multitrack drifting
My family went to an attraction called rail explorers near lake placid in ny, they have pedal cars you ride down the tracks. Between me and my dad pedaling we got the wheels to spin, pretty cool.
Santosi it’s NOT a burnout idiot! It’s called wheelslip and it happens when a train loses traction!
CSX RF&P Guy Do you need to be r/wooosh ed again?
Thanks you
NICE!
Not really a big suprise. It's a CSX locomotive AND it has 666 in the number... This was somewhat inevitable.
No wonder why it was having problems it had 666 in its number! Haa Good vid!!
I bet man!! You are lucky great capture!!!
Very nice
Amazing😍
New subscriber😊
Wheel slip happens primarily because of lack of friction between the wheels and the rails.
When the connecting rod (of a steam loco) makes an upward movement during rotation a lifting effect is
created on the wheels and thereby reducing the pressure between the wheels and rail resulting in the wheel spin.
This type of slip usually doesn't happen where a crank rod is not directly connected to the wheel such as in the case of diesel or electrical locos.
Wheel slip in diesel or electrical engine and carriages happens due to heavy pulling load, smooth wheel and rail surfaces,
uneven rail surface and when wheel is slightly lifted due to faulty wheel carriage balancing etc.
i thought wheel slip happened because of a lack of TRACTIVE EFFORT (weight on drivers)
Too much throttle, ramp it slow
Who has been out with the grease again
TheCuriousOne Throttle wasn't bad, SD60's had issues with wheel slip
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SD50*
Well the driver is probably very impatient, so he puts it in notch 8 from a stop.
at 0:26 you can hear those massive turbos spooling up.
Listening to those giant turbos spooling up is like music to my ears.
0:32 How a train feels to chew 5 gum
That's awesome! I don't think I would trust that sd40-2 anymore lol.
BNSFguy 617 someone put wd40 on the tracks?
billl605 I think your right lol.
+BNSFguy 617 hahaha oh I had to read that like 6 times before it clicked.
+BNSFguy 617 That's an SD50-2.
+CFRF13 its a sd40-2
Nice video
When I hauled for QuicKrete I use to deliver pallets of traction sand to rail yards up in Ct & Ny
gas is almost 4$ there?!? that's outrageous. 0:20
Toby Baumgardner It was nearly two years ago, when this was taken. It's about $2.35 per gal. right now. Michigan has one of the highest gas taxes in the nation.
In Sweden its over $5 per gal. :(
In Croatia is 5.35$ per gal and we got 600$ shit salaries monthly xD
Linus H Forsberg p
Surcharge, people, surcharge.
There is something wrong with that SD50, wheel slip system should have cleaned that up. At the carrier I work for we have GP50s that will do that regardless what notch you are in. Worse, it wont trigger a wheel slip light/bell, so if its a trailing unit in the day you have almost no idea that its doing it. One of our old-head shop guys explained to me once exactly what's broke in the electrical cabinet, but that's not my craft. Just write the engine up for runaway wheel slip in all notches.
That's correct, power should've been backed off by the wheel slip detector and sand applied (if available!) , so definitely a relay or fuse problem? Not my department either, but it almost seems like the track is greased as they are really going for it..LOL We had a similar problem last week with a EMD 2300 class on the railway I work for, drivers reported a broken rail, but it turned out to be wheel burns in the track from a trailing unit behaving like this!! It ruined 20 meters of rail which had to be replaced! The train was later rescued by two extra units to help it to the port. Great catch !!
Cheers Gregg
Finally, someone who gets it.
Love the sparks
You gotta love the TH-cam experts!
[CSX]
How tomorrow slides.
caught me slippin'
Wow, we sure know whose got the power,don't we,👍 thanks for sharing 👍👍
Nice video, we have G&W Orange livery locos in the UK