😂😂😂 " I'm here now may aswell have a look" " excuse me guard who can I send my detailed electrical report to complete with schematic in relation to the pendant light in my dormitory??" 😅
One very important thing to note - NEVER look into the end of fibre, especially when you don't know what's at the other end. The colour of light coming through data cabling is likely to be infrared, so it'll appear really dim red or invisible depending on wavelength. However just because you can't see it doesn't mean it's harmless - there could easily be enough power in the beam to instantly burn your retina, or even set fire to paper or destroy a phone camera
I lived in Thailand for the best part of a decade. During that time, I rented several properties. Thai house wiring is a thing to behold. They like to surface mount the cables. The cable runs are beautifully installed, very neat, and perfectly straight. They use a white and black colour scheme for the wire. But no one seems to know which is the live wire. I think it's up to the sparks on the day to decide.
Yeah, exact my point too. I never see it so neat and beautiful. Our house technician for electrical and A/C show me something of his own work how he learn it from foreigners too. Most work how I see was more hilarious. 😂
Hired handyman to install induction Hob put a voltmeter right next to wires he was using for Hob. Guy ignores voltmeter and touches the wires with fingers. They normally do not install a ground also.
@@jbranche8024 So around 2007 they started at Ko Samui, changwat Surat Thani, with grounding of new houses and repaired builds. My electrical shower was suddenly correctly installed for my own surprise. But the most sockets and plugs are not grounded, that's right but mostly not need to do it too. The most thai people do same my mom did it - put out power plug if have a thunderstorm.
That was my world for many years working in the Electric cupboards of the high flats in Glasgow, found a guy living in one once mattress and all. Another job I traced a fault back to a local indoor substation only to find a circuit breaker had tripped by a guy who also was living in the sub with a three piece suite and a cooker !
I'd like to add about seeing "green" fibre tails. They're usually APC (Angled physical contact). The ends of the fibre mating points are ever_so_slightly angled, to reduce light losses. This is used in high-end high bandwidth environments, so great to see they opted for this! The reason for APC, is to reduce light loss and reflection, so the maximum amount of light passes from connector to connector.
APC is used in all FTTH networks because it's PON. If they were to use UPC and someone unplugs their home ONT (modem/router), all the light from the OLT will get reflected back which may cause issues to other users on the same leg.
Can't believe this video. Just got back from 2 weeks in Thailand 5 days ago. What more do I want of a video, electric, telecom and EV charging points - all in one😅 Perfect for me who's interested in this stuff. Slight off the electric path. One I found interesting, is buying a local Thai SIM card for internet. I found 5G all the way from top of a building, mountain to the basement of shopping centre or beach, on sea ferry and with internet at full 100mbps+ speed. 600mbps in beach... Even 960mbps at the airport. But back in the UK, My other half was lucky to get onto the network once back in LHR and everywhere in the UK less than 10mbps.
16:20 there may be a main combined meter to check the calibration of the attached group of meters, so the two at the bottom with the larger cables feed a couple of rows of those above.
Interesting film thanks. The "bell wire" you noticed in the comms room is for the Fibre internet. One "strand" is the fibre optic cable and the other side is an insulated steel "support" wire. It stops the fibre from kinking or snapping as it's routed through the conduits, voids and roofspaces into the condo unit. Once they get it to the router, they separate the fibre off, splice it and add a terminator (the yellow cable) for insertion into the consumer's router. This is what I have in my Bangkok condo.
Living in Thailand for 11 years nothing surprises me electrical wise here. A sparky in the U.K. The U.K. standards are way way higher. As someone els mentioned lucky you were not confronted by anyone it could of looked dodgy.
Interesting you're covering Thailand. My girlfriend is from Thailand and she wants to check out the electrics in her home out there as she has no confidence it's been done right or safe. Not sure if Thailand is stringently regulated like it is in the UK but I must say these are amongst the tidiest plant rooms |I've seen in any construction. Having worked on hundreds of sites from primary schools to commercial, government and MOD I've seen it all in the UK. Also, interesting that it's labelled in English.
Stringently regulated? I have lived here for six years. I have seen much new construction and have never seen a building permit, building inspector or a licensed contractor. Blueprints are optional. I am sure large commercial properties have more oversight but for everything else, you do you!
Loved this video. Have lived in a few countries in south east Asia and I’ve always though that despite what u see on the streets Thailand has very high standards in terms of building engineering. I now live in Malaysia and they are far behind. Would love to show u through some buildings here particularly the roof spaces where the work is hidden from site. Volt stuck a must!
D Line, all part of the old Square D family. Very robust and well made. I was recently working at a location with Square D switchboards installed in the early 1970's and all working well.
It's curious that on a new installation they appear to have used electromechanical meters for each apartment rather than electronic ones which can be read remotely and monitored by the consumer.
When I installed solar here 5 years ago they installed a mechanical meter. As the meter doesn’t move they thought I was spinning the meter backwards (to the same reading each month) I have asked them to change the meter- still waiting.
3:57 Inside the cities they use cable TV and now Internet over this too. This the black lines outside in half between the power pole and earth. It is good work and not normally how you found outside. This technicians are learned it same in UK, so it looks nice and neat. This not typical Thailand... 😊
Interesting film. I just got one question... what's the average sentence for breaking and entering in Thailand that you managed to dodge? 'Cause yea, if you did set of some kind of anti-tamper alarm for any of those cupboards you opened, you might have found yourself in a much less pleasant place to stay.
Modern electrics and plumbing in Thailand are generally very good. The older stuff not so good. They probably introduced stricter codes in the recent past. Those bird nest disasters like the one you showed in the intro are everywhere though. Mostly old obsolete comms cables actually but mixed with power cables too, and when they burn which they often do the results can be spectacular. Recently one such fire in Pattaya happened above a row of parked motorcycles, setting fire to them and the resulting damage was extensive! In a lot of places they are all being removed and the non obsolete stuff being moved to underground ducts, but imagine how big and disruptive a job that is. Where it’s complete it’s quite a transformation but it’ll be years if ever before they get done. Thailand is a great place to retire to though.😊
Thailand has been considered an upper middle income country for over 10 years now. They have the get go to do things correctly now, probably at the same position as the UK was in the late 60's early 70's. Just look at some of the installations you can still see here, you have shown them on your channel more than once. It shouldn't come as a surprise that in the big cities there things are done right. Lots of countries now in a similar position to Thailand who would have been considered "Third World" 50 years ago. Just look at Singapore, first time I was there in 1975 they had open sewers and shanty towns and an average income of probably a 1/4 of the UK. Now they have an average income almost double the UK's.
Been watching technology videos for about a decade now. Noticed that in pretty much every country in the world, there's people that are really good at building technology. But, for some reason, some countries embrace building technology more than others.
When I worked for BT there were massive busbars associated with the distribution of 50V DC to the equipment in telephone exchanges. Cross sectional dimension of 30 x 30 cm or so not uncommon, consisting of multiple plates with air gaps in between. all duplicated for pos and neg. A lot of heavy metal supported from the ceiling and whacking great fuses. Also, when carrying a lot of current, a significant steady magnetic field as it was DC.
I got involved with installation of sockets at the girlfriends house in Thailand. 3 pin thai sockets and UK sockets a ground rod an isolation switch before the breakers . The Thai plugs have isolated tops on the pins. Probably better than the USA sockets if installed well
The plugs seem to be good but I'm not so sure about the multi-standard sockets that take both US and Thai plugs. Designing sockets for two entirely different systems (flat blades and round pins) seems to be risky because you'll end up reducing the contact surface for at least one, if not both plug types. Banning US plugs might have been a better idea than designing an entirely new plug standard.
I know it's not sparks, but try and find the main building plantroom and break into that. I'd love to see a brand new up to date plantroom, and get chummy with the facility manager and show us the BMS too 😀👍🏻👌🏻
Enjoyed this video Jordan, went to Thailand earlier this year, the Similan Islands are amazing, you've got to experience it. Next year I'm going to The Maldives, so that will be a good trip too. Dean, Travelling Veteran, AKA Doctor Electric!
Looks just like the electrical installations in the US. Siemens MCCBs, Schneider busway, EMT conduit, cable trays, etc. The meters look foreign, but that's about it. You should visit the US and see some of our electrical installations. The residential part will look totally foreign to you but on the commercial/industrial side it looks more European, especially with newer panelboards like the ABB Proline using DIN rail MCBs and finger safe busbars.
The F/A cabinet with all the relays is probably for a smoke control system, I saw a grille in the stairwell and as it's such a tall tower it is probably a pressurisation system where big fans either at roof level or basement will keep the stairs at a higher pressure than the corridor that could be filled with smoke. There's probably an outlet in the corridor as well so when the stair door is held open there will be a pressure differential between the 2 keeping smoke out of the stairwell.
At 8:15 in the video that cabinet is fire alarm. the little modules with the green screw terminals are EST fire alarm input modules. Not sure what the unlabeled modules with the LEDs are but the EST ones are used in the US. Nice tidy install.
16:20 given that there are 20 of the smaller cable meters, and that the smaller cable meters have smaller numbers on them, i think that the bigger cable meters are actually feeding into the smaller cable meters. so i reckon there might be 2 seperate bus bars (i'm guessing this is for 2 phases, given that the input voltage is 415v so they would just split this into 2 ~207v lines) and each bottom meter covers its own bus bar. im guessing this would be purely for redundancy reasons, so that if any of those meters fail, they will definitely know and can recover any missing details.
Those tubes you see on 9:46 are called "buffers" they each carry usually 12 cores of fiber. And that "bell" wire is a usual single core or 2-core fiber cable for terminating the "final" end connections.
Great video, the installations you explored looked professionally built. Lets hope some of your questions about the identification of conduits and pipes can be explained by a local. Time to go for a beer where the construction workers go perhaps? Glad your still posting man.
Looks better than anything I have seen in Vietnam, but it is getting better here. I have seen the facial recognition elevators though. Vincom Mall here in Da Nang has the entire motorbike parking area under the mall set up with EV motorbike chargers. All the spots have the chargers, but only 20% or so are actually live.
We had busbars in the last building I worked in, had works done on the sprinkler systems and someone didn't cap off a pipe in the riser.... rather large explosion and about £250k worth of damage!
The installation of electrical systems on a new-build like this one will have been supervised by a Western electrical project engineer. As a result the installation will be of a high standard. However........ In less well-regulated builds and especially out in the sticks things are very different. Most electrical equipment is not genuine OEM, rather Chinese copies, installation is very poor, earthing non-existent and 'qualified' electricians difficult to work with. We have a commercial broiler chicken farm and the 3-phase installation was pretty bad. My favourite was our local electrician who installed a 7kW water heater in the kitchen and fitted the earth to a nearby bolt in the wall. I have learned much from your channel. BTW, I woudn't go poking around like that without permission as you would absolutely be arrested, have your camera equipment confiscated and be fined heavily if caught. If you come back here I'd gladly show you around a typical 3-phase installation by 'professionals'.
Their style of electrical construction is nearly identical to US. 38 years for me. After a few years at a Paper Mill. Where I worked on everything and PLC was just getting into mainstream use. Later on, I did primarily Fire Protection in large office buildings, schools, campus and large warehouse and factories.
Jordan! Finally about time. Glad to see you Hugs! Oh my Gosh, there are so many wires on pole. My wife's ex lives in the Philippines. I watched them on a youtube video "Iverson Fire Rescue Volunteer Brigade Inc." in the Philippines. I was shocked that there were so many wires on one pole. Oh my GOD! That was very interesting and great to see you enjoying a different part of your life. I hope you're settling in and enjoying the change. Also "Artisan Electrics in Thailand" Now you have two companies Cambridge and Thailand. Interesting? Thumbs up! Cheers! 🤟
Born and brought up in Cambridge but have lived the last 30+ years in Asia and it’s always fun to see wide eyed new little bunny rabbits come to Asia and guess what’s going on. 🤣 Ironically, I came across your channel as I have just bought a big house back in UK and was researching how to install solar and batteries .. want the job ?
3:40 Hard to see if you shaking your camera so fast, but it is a company in Krung Thep (or Bangkok/BKK for the fahrangs) how build it. Then name of how tested it - how build-in and tested inside is free.
Interesting how messy the fiber cables are compared to all the other wiring. Those white fiber cables are common, we have similar stuff in the US, I’ve got 1Gig fiber to my apartment and they use similar cables to distribute to each unit. It’s likely a single strand that uses coarse wave multiplexing to get bi-directional coms down a single strand.
9:38 At my time only Siemens City have had more as 100 MBit for every household. So I think they do now FTTH what make sin in a big apartment complex with many apartments. If you not rent it with internet it can be only FTTC - so you have ADSL at home only. Why do you not show your apartment so we can see it? Why do you not have 2 fiber in one apartment - do you can double your speed or one company, one private. It is all mystery before do you not shown your apartment. Of course power for the *active splitter* ! Without your lights not working. Very good structured work and cable laying.
1:21 This is a typical build of an emercency lighting. The power go off and the build-in battery starts the power and the light(s) starts. Do you buy this boxes normally with 1 till 4 lights. It is easy to install for the customer and easy to change. In history I pay around ๕๐๐฿ (500TBH) till ๑๕๐๐฿ (1500TBH) for one box at Tesco Lotus. The old one use 12V bulbs, this newer build use LED. The plug and sockets are older copies of the British plugs how they use around 1900 in the British colonies around the Kingdom of Thailand. They are normal around in Asia. If you are rich or love security do you use British plug and sockets, e.g. for hot pot, hot pan, rice cooker, mostly in business buildings, e.g. Restaurants.
Maybe where we see the energy meters for each apartment, the ones with slightly bigger cables are the furthest away and volt drop was a factor so they increased the cable size?
We rented an apartment in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. There was no way i was going to have a sneak peek at the electrical control rooms in my 47 floor apartment block, the security throughout was very good. We came across some very dangerous exposed live parts whilst walking through some older parts of town, an empty fuse carrier that had live parts exposed to any animal of any kind. I got the impression that in Malaysia, they take electrical safety, in particular, lightning safety very seriously.
when visiting Pattaty i stay in the nags head on 2en Road (recommended)..the isolator for the electric shower is with you in the cubical..,, yes you can touch the live uncovered terminal if you want to do so when you have a shower ,,,I have photo
Plug-in tap off have been used worldwide for donkeys years , odds on the bus bars are copper. Enjoy the fruits of your labours ( and of of course your employees) Jordan , when I was in KL I found a grand helpful maintenance man so fortunately I didn’t have to trespass
A security guard probably would have politely asked him to leave the unfinished floor. If the guard doesn't speak English he might ask a supervisor for assistance. Even then, since Jordan is a harmless looking foreigner, they would not make a big issue out of it. Its not exactly illegal to wander off through open doors to unused floors. I would be careful with these kind of fire exits though as they could be connected to an alarm system.
The conduit looks like the most common type you see here in the United States and Canada. EMT. The connectors look identical. Honestly a ton of what they do appears to be influenced by North American ways of doing things like the large boxes, and huge oversized equipment.
Hello Andrew, you said back in England that your trip would include Vietnam. I can,t wait for your reaction to Vietnamese wiring! Their H.V. Stuff is pretty good, (but, the again, it HAS to be), On the road from Saigin north west out to Tay Ninh you might see a brand of distribution transformer with coloured primary bushing caps in red, blue and yellow and they have matching fuses and air-breaks to go with also coloured…so keeping track of the phases is a sinch. Their L.V. Stuff is another matter though. in Saigon there has been MASSIVE infrastructure work in the last two decades, most of the L.V. Is being placed underground, (abd a good deal of the H.V. Stuff too). New distribution transformers are on plinths and you should see a lot of those, usually 500 or 750KVA. You might have to look sround a bit to find the old Saigon lattice poles and concrete “Waffle Poles”. These had about three lots of three phase, sharing a single neutral stretched really tightly between them and all withinn a squaew foot or so, the tightness was to prevent sag whan birds perched on them. I thin there are still some in Ng Tat To street in Phuong 19 Binh Thanh District to the north east of the CBD across the Thi Nghe Channel, you might also find some older dual pole mounted distribution transformers there, (Hem 174 Dien Bien Phu Street). In newer builds the wiring quality is getting a lot better, they use the Australian colour code, neutral, black, active, red, Earth/CPE, green with yellow trace…However in old places anything goes! Aerial feeders to premisis are grey-black twiated pair about 10 mil squared, black, active, grey, phase. Once this passes the meter…anything is possible…the “children” take over the wiring. The sense of what is active and neutral is GONE! And Earth? well what is that for? I have seen three phase with all three phases green with yellow trace, so watch yourself ! Blue and yellow seem to be popular wire colours, again, could be active or neutral! Needless to say, switches could be in the neutral side. Main switches are dual gang knife switches (usually with some form of slotted plastic cover) that break both active and neutral. Very old places have just one power circuit, about 8 mil squared insulated in paper, black and white, sub circuits “tee” off this in 1.5 mil to little sub boards on plastic Peg board with one snall “toy” porcelain rewirable fuse wedge, for or five outlets, three of witch accept NEMA and Schuko plugs snd one “combo” outlet that will take a British plug too, (Earth hole but no connection)… all these outlets are milded in one piece like a power strip. The peg board also includes a switch, mounted sideways for a fluoro battern…nearly always mountec on the wall and almost never on the ceiling. This “toy” switch has a glow on the dark Strontium Aluminate rocker! Often these little sub peg boards will have fans botched into them using figure 8. At my in-laws there is a 1.5Kw kettle and 5Kw heat as it flows shower that are wired with 1.5 mil!! So “have fun” when you get there!
Agreed, a lot of the transmission and HV distribution is well done in Vietnam. I've been in a few new substations and the quality and equipment is good, as well as out in the field with reclosers and sectionalizers. But yeah, once you get in to the LV wiring, anything and everything goes. No color code, the old peg boards still available for sale and just basic wiring from point A to B. No pride in work, no craftsmanship, no desire to have it work for more than a month. Usually.... I have seen some good installs but far and few between. I do have an electrical company here in Vietnam, so I do a lot of work behind people to make it safer and more reliable. I also try to train locals on better practices to make them better as well. In a lot of the cases, it's not laziness, it's just no one ever showed them a safer, better way. I have seen some nice work in larger commercial buildings, but that is hit or miss too.
Sounds a bit like 50s/60s wiring in Austria. Technically the German VDE regs stipulated wire colours but in reality everything was the same. Some electricians used different colours for different circuits (but always the same for line and neutral of each circuit), others did whole flats and houses in one colour and some colour-coded switch lines and strappers. In one place I even found half the flat wired in VDE colours (grey neutral, black line) and the other half all green. Earths were usually red but red could be a number of other things as well (that actually conformed to the VDE regs, they were quite ambiguous on the use of that colour). Three-phase supplies were often four black wires or any other colour. Until 1959 domestic sockets weren't earthed except in the kitchen where the earth was connected to the water pipe. Even the first completely earthed buildings used the plumbing as the main earth. The same place with the mix of colours, built in 1960, used a red 1.5 mm2 from the stop tap in the kitchen to the nearest junction box in the adjacent bedroom. If an unsuspecting electrician had disconnected the bedroom circuit at the fuse board the whole flat would have lost all earthing, the main from the meter was just 6 mm2 four-core. In 1965 the harmonised colours were introduced, black line, blue neutral and green/yellow earth. Austria added a one-year transitional period for installations already in planning or under construction, during which the neutral was still to be grey but the earth green/yellow, just to make things extra confusing. The latest installation according to those transitional colours I've found so far was built in 1974. Eight years after the transitional period ended. The same installation also had green and yellow lines throughout, which had been banned in 1965 to avoid confusion with the earth. Only by the late 70s colours were mostly standardised and by and large installations are considered safe by current regs once you get things like 100 mA main RCDs out of the way.
From the telecom world. this was lovely to see. considering western countries don't do such a good job making things look nice. And yes that's a fiber wavelength splitter or a (WDM) with the current DB loss. I have seen one of those tiny fiber cables in an old apartment block once but could not find the name of it. Would be nice to see more of these kinds of videos in the future. And hi from Cory's wife's home country.
so you took all the money and moved to thailand ? fiber cable is composed of tubes, and fibers are inside those tubes. there are 12 available colors for fibers , tubes, supertubes
4:12 Actually it is not very nice. You should not bend RF coax cables on a tight radius. The tension puts pressure on the internal insulator and makes the core migrate out of the center. This creates impedance discontinuities which cause RF signals to be partially reflected back. In short, every tight bend has the potential to cause some signal loss.
The mess of cables in the electricity poles are not electricity wires. They are fiber, telecom TV etc. Each company putting cables in the poles should pay rent to PEA (MEA in Bangkok) but to ofen they don't do that so the electricity authority has a lot of probllems when doing jobs along the power lines when they don't know who all the cables belongs to. My wife is a deputy manager at PEA and explained this is a real problem.
Interesting stuff Jordan. Looks like a well designed system in that tower block. it's a far cry from the electrics on show in Kho San Road, Bangkok. Question. How many times a day have you and the wife said. Its hot or I am hot?
I couldn't get a good view of the fibers, it looks like they're running single strand bi-directional fiber to all of the apartments, which honestly is a good way to do it. This is generally referred to as a PON (Passive Optical Networking) setup which has significant advantages in the field such as single fiber deployments (one fiber for multiple subscribers) and passive splitters for distribution. The one laser light coming from the OLT is sent into the PON run and is then optically split amongst a handful of subscribers using the PON splitter (one fiber can carry 4,8,16,32,+ subscribers depending on OLT configuration) and it's all done using specialized cuts in fiber instead of active regeneration (receiver/transmitter). Depending on the size of the OLT, one could service hundreds of customers with a single device with a high PON port count and proper configuration, without sacrificing stability of the links or speed. Currently, the orignal PON standard was GPON (Gigabit Passive Optical Networking) but lately, a newer standard called XGS-PON has popped up (10 Gigabit Symmetrical Passive Optical Networking) using the same single-fiber passive deployments, but newer OLTs and ONTs. At the subscriber end of the PON, a specialized ONT will be installed that terminates the fiber into Ethernet (usually gigabit, although 2.5 and 10G copper/SFP+ ONTs may exist too). A lot of people like to misconstrue that the ONT is just a dumb media converter (while there may be some configurations where this is true, this is most often NOT the case.), the truth of the matter is that the ONT at the subscriber end is a lot more advanced than appearances would show. The ONT can provide diagnostic information, line signal information, and even some CPE information (MAC address, link state, speed, errors on port, etc..) which allows the provider to do a complete diagnostic from the Internet-facing edge of their network all the way to the subscriber's CPE to vet the operability of their service. The downside of the OLT/ONT pairing is that they are usually very proprietary, meaning that an ONT that's Alcatel branded, may not work on a Huawei branded OLT.
I guess "good way to do it" is dependent on the objectives you have for the network and at what level the aggregation happens. IMO, if you're putting fiber in, don't mess with all that and put one fiber per dwelling to be future proof: it's more expensive in the beginning, but offers a lot of future (or present) opportunities. Here in Switzerland, this discussion is so critical that the incumbent (Swisscom) has been ordered by the competition/anti-monopoly agency to go back and spend hundreds of millions to convert the installed PON base to individual fibers to each dwelling. The reason is that by law the fiber network has to be open for competitors and with PON, the incumbent has power to limit what competitors launch. For example, the ISP I use is a smaller ISP which offers 1G/10G/25G symmetrical, all for the same monthly price (only the one-time setup fees differ, since this is when they cover the different price of the optics + cost of the individual ports in the gear). If the incumbent had been allowed to run a PON-only network, they would be the ones deciding which speeds are allowed on the network, but since all they can do is lease a dark fiber to the competition, they have no such power now.
Looks like pon yeah. At 9:40 you can see fibre 1 - 8 1490nm -19.58 and 1550 -3.62 not sure if they're decibel documentation or not. So everyone with the same wavelength with rx tx SFP. But he did mention there were four tubes out of the incoming supply, could be some weird extra sheathing for four fibres or the normal G48 with four tubes of 12 for future proofing in case they use single fibre from the Node instead of pon in the future.
I got a shock from my laptop's power cable in a 5 star resort in Krabi because the sockets were unpolarised, ungrounded 2 pin US sockets and i plugged in my UK laptop power supply through a travel adapter and I happened to guess the orientation of the plug wrong the first time
I loved the video. Great to be able to have a look inside service cupboards. I wonder if they use electricity or gas for Hot water in Thailand high rise buildings?
@@jvoricactually authoritian government pretty common in Southeast Asia, except for Singapore with good governess. Except Singapore and Brunei , rest of south East Asia and a few country have less freedom (too much conservative)
hmm jordan goes for long hol to take a break from electrics and stuff... but finds some really cool electrical stuff and just has to say "blow bn on hols, this is fascinating! sparky hat on!" 😂😂 tbh im glad he did! that was interesting (even for a non sparky!)
Ooh, what a very interesting explore here! 😀 Many thanks Jordan, and here's hoping you also took the opportunity to document some of the more _traditional_ aspects of Thai electrical installations before pressing on to Indonesia! 😇 Quick question about the 3ph isolation unit at 12:15 - The label on that implies (To me at least; But I'm not a qualified Sparky) that the unit is „Plugged“ into the busbar riser. But for a 3ph 2kA circuit these surely can't be tapping the busbar with simple spring or friction contacts (As opposed to bolts)...Can they? ⚡🔥😲 Finally: An excellent example of an everyday *high* current electrical system is the third rail traction supply used on our railways in the south/east of England. Although these are low voltage by definition (750v) the current flow is *extremely high* for a system with exposed contact points, and the thinnest conductor I've seen anywhere on these systems is no less than 100mm diameter. 😲 If I understand correctly these carry about *50kA* in normal operation, and being *DC* too they won't appear to bite too much...But when they do, it'll be the sort of bite that chargrills a Bovine in a mere fraction of a second! 🐄⚡🔥🍖😨
If you're interested in learning more about tap-off units, have a read at the Schneider or Eaton busbar catalogues. The tap-off units won't be bolted to the riser; it'll be a heavy-duty levered connection... Also the connection from the tap-off unit to the switchboard (14:26 in video)...to me it looks like the connection was made via busbar, not cables (the trunking has quite small bends...you wouldn't be able to achieve that bend radius using cables that you'd typically use for a 2000A, 400V connection...)
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good bye cause I will unsubscribe now due to the content and the direction the channel is going
Next video is Jordan showing us the electrical layout in a foreign prison
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😂😂😂 " I'm here now may aswell have a look" " excuse me guard who can I send my detailed electrical report to complete with schematic in relation to the pendant light in my dormitory??" 😅
The Bangkok Hilton!
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In Bangkok There's a far worse shock to get than an electric shock,🍆
One very important thing to note - NEVER look into the end of fibre, especially when you don't know what's at the other end. The colour of light coming through data cabling is likely to be infrared, so it'll appear really dim red or invisible depending on wavelength. However just because you can't see it doesn't mean it's harmless - there could easily be enough power in the beam to instantly burn your retina, or even set fire to paper or destroy a phone camera
INSTANTLY burn your retina?
I lived in Thailand for the best part of a decade. During that time, I rented several properties. Thai house wiring is a thing to behold. They like to surface mount the cables. The cable runs are beautifully installed, very neat, and perfectly straight. They use a white and black colour scheme for the wire. But no one seems to know which is the live wire. I think it's up to the sparks on the day to decide.
How has your time been in Thailand? and always leave it to a sparky
@@artisanelectrics what happened in thailand mate??????? do tell
Yeah, exact my point too. I never see it so neat and beautiful. Our house technician for electrical and A/C show me something of his own work how he learn it from foreigners too. Most work how I see was more hilarious. 😂
Hired handyman to install induction Hob put a voltmeter right next to wires he was using for Hob. Guy ignores voltmeter and touches the wires with fingers. They normally do not install a ground also.
@@jbranche8024 So around 2007 they started at Ko Samui, changwat Surat Thani, with grounding of new houses and repaired builds. My electrical shower was suddenly correctly installed for my own surprise. But the most sockets and plugs are not grounded, that's right but mostly not need to do it too.
The most thai people do same my mom did it - put out power plug if have a thunderstorm.
That was my world for many years working in the Electric cupboards of the high flats in Glasgow, found a guy living in one once mattress and all. Another job I traced a fault back to a local indoor substation only to find a circuit breaker had tripped by a guy who also was living in the sub with a three piece suite and a cooker !
I'd like to add about seeing "green" fibre tails. They're usually APC (Angled physical contact). The ends of the fibre mating points are ever_so_slightly angled, to reduce light losses. This is used in high-end high bandwidth environments, so great to see they opted for this! The reason for APC, is to reduce light loss and reflection, so the maximum amount of light passes from connector to connector.
APC is used in all FTTH networks because it's PON. If they were to use UPC and someone unplugs their home ONT (modem/router), all the light from the OLT will get reflected back which may cause issues to other users on the same leg.
Can't believe this video. Just got back from 2 weeks in Thailand 5 days ago. What more do I want of a video, electric, telecom and EV charging points - all in one😅
Perfect for me who's interested in this stuff.
Slight off the electric path.
One I found interesting, is buying a local Thai SIM card for internet. I found 5G all the way from top of a building, mountain to the basement of shopping centre or beach, on sea ferry and with internet at full 100mbps+ speed. 600mbps in beach... Even 960mbps at the airport.
But back in the UK, My other half was lucky to get onto the network once back in LHR and everywhere in the UK less than 10mbps.
16:20 there may be a main combined meter to check the calibration of the attached group of meters, so the two at the bottom with the larger cables feed a couple of rows of those above.
Interesting film thanks. The "bell wire" you noticed in the comms room is for the Fibre internet. One "strand" is the fibre optic cable and the other side is an insulated steel "support" wire. It stops the fibre from kinking or snapping as it's routed through the conduits, voids and roofspaces into the condo unit. Once they get it to the router, they separate the fibre off, splice it and add a terminator (the yellow cable) for insertion into the consumer's router. This is what I have in my Bangkok condo.
Thanks for the information!
Used in Australia for overhead fibre service.
@@matthewpettengale9943Exactly
Those white fibre cables have a strong wire inside to support the cable hanging from point to point and provide strength to the tiny fibre inside.
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Living in Thailand for 11 years nothing surprises me electrical wise here. A sparky in the U.K. The U.K. standards are way way higher. As someone els mentioned lucky you were not confronted by anyone it could of looked dodgy.
Interesting you're covering Thailand. My girlfriend is from Thailand and she wants to check out the electrics in her home out there as she has no confidence it's been done right or safe. Not sure if Thailand is stringently regulated like it is in the UK but I must say these are amongst the tidiest plant rooms |I've seen in any construction. Having worked on hundreds of sites from primary schools to commercial, government and MOD I've seen it all in the UK.
Also, interesting that it's labelled in English.
Stringently regulated? I have lived here for six years. I have seen much new construction and have never seen a building permit, building inspector or a licensed contractor. Blueprints are optional. I am sure large commercial properties have more oversight but for everything else, you do you!
Loved this video. Have lived in a few countries in south east Asia and I’ve always though that despite what u see on the streets Thailand has very high standards in terms of building engineering. I now live in Malaysia and they are far behind. Would love to show u through some buildings here particularly the roof spaces where the work is hidden from site. Volt stuck a must!
D Line, all part of the old Square D family. Very robust and well made. I was recently working at a location with Square D switchboards installed in the early 1970's and all working well.
It's curious that on a new installation they appear to have used electromechanical meters for each apartment rather than electronic ones which can be read remotely and monitored by the consumer.
When I installed solar here 5 years ago they installed a mechanical meter. As the meter doesn’t move they thought I was spinning the meter backwards (to the same reading each month) I have asked them to change the meter- still waiting.
3:57 Inside the cities they use cable TV and now Internet over this too. This the black lines outside in half between the power pole and earth. It is good work and not normally how you found outside. This technicians are learned it same in UK, so it looks nice and neat. This not typical Thailand... 😊
Interesting film. I just got one question... what's the average sentence for breaking and entering in Thailand that you managed to dodge? 'Cause yea, if you did set of some kind of anti-tamper alarm for any of those cupboards you opened, you might have found yourself in a much less pleasant place to stay.
Definitely hasn't been here 5 minutes knocking the place already....Ting Tong Falang.
Modern electrics and plumbing in Thailand are generally very good. The older stuff not so good. They probably introduced stricter codes in the recent past.
Those bird nest disasters like the one you showed in the intro are everywhere though. Mostly old obsolete comms cables actually but mixed with power cables too, and when they burn which they often do the results can be spectacular. Recently one such fire in Pattaya happened above a row of parked motorcycles, setting fire to them and the resulting damage was extensive!
In a lot of places they are all being removed and the non obsolete stuff being moved to underground ducts, but imagine how big and disruptive a job that is. Where it’s complete it’s quite a transformation but it’ll be years if ever before they get done.
Thailand is a great place to retire to though.😊
It does seem like any new builds have much better electrics and wiring which is great to see!
It is Jordan Farley doing the explanations that makes Artisan Electrics videos so interesting.
Therefore wherever you are Jordan, keep it up! 🙂
Thailand has been considered an upper middle income country for over 10 years now. They have the get go to do things correctly now, probably at the same position as the UK was in the late 60's early 70's. Just look at some of the installations you can still see here, you have shown them on your channel more than once. It shouldn't come as a surprise that in the big cities there things are done right.
Lots of countries now in a similar position to Thailand who would have been considered "Third World" 50 years ago. Just look at Singapore, first time I was there in 1975 they had open sewers and shanty towns and an average income of probably a 1/4 of the UK. Now they have an average income almost double the UK's.
i think if you compared UK and Thia roads you would think the UK was a third-world countery
Been watching technology videos for about a decade now. Noticed that in pretty much every country in the world, there's people that are really good at building technology. But, for some reason, some countries embrace building technology more than others.
When I worked for BT there were massive busbars associated with the distribution of 50V DC to the equipment in telephone exchanges. Cross sectional dimension of 30 x 30 cm or so not uncommon, consisting of multiple plates with air gaps in between. all duplicated for pos and neg. A lot of heavy metal supported from the ceiling and whacking great fuses. Also, when carrying a lot of current, a significant steady magnetic field as it was DC.
I got involved with installation of sockets at the girlfriends house in Thailand. 3 pin thai sockets and UK sockets a ground rod an isolation switch before the breakers . The Thai plugs have isolated tops on the pins. Probably better than the USA sockets if installed well
The plugs seem to be good but I'm not so sure about the multi-standard sockets that take both US and Thai plugs. Designing sockets for two entirely different systems (flat blades and round pins) seems to be risky because you'll end up reducing the contact surface for at least one, if not both plug types. Banning US plugs might have been a better idea than designing an entirely new plug standard.
I know it's not sparks, but try and find the main building plantroom and break into that. I'd love to see a brand new up to date plantroom, and get chummy with the facility manager and show us the BMS too 😀👍🏻👌🏻
Enjoyed this video Jordan, went to Thailand earlier this year, the Similan Islands are amazing, you've got to experience it.
Next year I'm going to The Maldives, so that will be a good trip too.
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There’s pipes and plumbing at 6:19. That’s all you need to know! 😂 Great video mate enjoy your break. 🎉
The meters are before the MMCB for each flat. Usually before the meter is a physical tamper proof fuse.
Looks just like the electrical installations in the US. Siemens MCCBs, Schneider busway, EMT conduit, cable trays, etc. The meters look foreign, but that's about it. You should visit the US and see some of our electrical installations. The residential part will look totally foreign to you but on the commercial/industrial side it looks more European, especially with newer panelboards like the ABB Proline using DIN rail MCBs and finger safe busbars.
The F/A cabinet with all the relays is probably for a smoke control system, I saw a grille in the stairwell and as it's such a tall tower it is probably a pressurisation system where big fans either at roof level or basement will keep the stairs at a higher pressure than the corridor that could be filled with smoke. There's probably an outlet in the corridor as well so when the stair door is held open there will be a pressure differential between the 2 keeping smoke out of the stairwell.
At 8:15 in the video that cabinet is fire alarm. the little modules with the green screw terminals are EST fire alarm input modules. Not sure what the unlabeled modules with the LEDs are but the EST ones are used in the US. Nice tidy install.
16:20 given that there are 20 of the smaller cable meters, and that the smaller cable meters have smaller numbers on them, i think that the bigger cable meters are actually feeding into the smaller cable meters. so i reckon there might be 2 seperate bus bars (i'm guessing this is for 2 phases, given that the input voltage is 415v so they would just split this into 2 ~207v lines) and each bottom meter covers its own bus bar. im guessing this would be purely for redundancy reasons, so that if any of those meters fail, they will definitely know and can recover any missing details.
Jordan that was very interesting and great to see you enjoying a different part of your life I hope you're settling in and enjoying the change 😊
Really enjoying it so far! Glad you enjoyed the video
At 8:35 that is the natural air circulation relays controlling the air shaft tunnels running up and down the building
Those tubes you see on 9:46 are called "buffers" they each carry usually 12 cores of fiber. And that "bell" wire is a usual single core or 2-core fiber cable for terminating the "final" end connections.
Great video, the installations you explored looked professionally built. Lets hope some of your questions about the identification of conduits and pipes can be explained by a local. Time to go for a beer where the construction workers go perhaps?
Glad your still posting man.
Love the videos!! Love to see a video of the electrics in the Netherlands 🤩!
Looks better than anything I have seen in Vietnam, but it is getting better here. I have seen the facial recognition elevators though. Vincom Mall here in Da Nang has the entire motorbike parking area under the mall set up with EV motorbike chargers. All the spots have the chargers, but only 20% or so are actually live.
We had busbars in the last building I worked in, had works done on the sprinkler systems and someone didn't cap off a pipe in the riser.... rather large explosion and about £250k worth of damage!
We use plugs and sockets for lighting in the UK too. They're called Klik roses
The installation of electrical systems on a new-build like this one will have been supervised by a Western electrical project engineer. As a result the installation will be of a high standard.
However........
In less well-regulated builds and especially out in the sticks things are very different. Most electrical equipment is not genuine OEM, rather Chinese copies, installation is very poor, earthing non-existent and 'qualified' electricians difficult to work with.
We have a commercial broiler chicken farm and the 3-phase installation was pretty bad.
My favourite was our local electrician who installed a 7kW water heater in the kitchen and fitted the earth to a nearby bolt in the wall.
I have learned much from your channel.
BTW, I woudn't go poking around like that without permission as you would absolutely be arrested, have your camera equipment confiscated and be fined heavily if caught.
If you come back here I'd gladly show you around a typical 3-phase installation by 'professionals'.
This is a super interesting video series idea! Love it!
Glad you enjoyed the video!
Their style of electrical construction is nearly identical to US.
38 years for me. After a few years at a Paper Mill. Where I worked on everything and PLC was just getting into mainstream use. Later on, I did primarily Fire Protection in large office buildings, schools, campus and large warehouse and factories.
Jordan! Finally about time. Glad to see you Hugs! Oh my Gosh, there are so many wires on pole. My wife's ex lives in the Philippines. I watched them on a youtube video "Iverson Fire Rescue Volunteer Brigade Inc." in the Philippines. I was shocked that there were so many wires on one pole. Oh my GOD! That was very interesting and great to see you enjoying a different part of your life. I hope you're settling in and enjoying the change. Also "Artisan Electrics in Thailand" Now you have two companies Cambridge and Thailand. Interesting? Thumbs up! Cheers! 🤟
After many videos, you've finally done it, you've convinced me to subscribe 👍
Really Enjoyed This.. Hoping You'll Do More Similar As You Travel Around . . .
Born and brought up in Cambridge but have lived the last 30+ years in Asia and it’s always fun to see wide eyed new little bunny rabbits come to Asia and guess what’s going on. 🤣 Ironically, I came across your channel as I have just bought a big house back in UK and was researching how to install solar and batteries .. want the job ?
Sounds good! Give us a call or drop us an email!
@8:55 The smoke head still had the dust cover on it
3:40 Hard to see if you shaking your camera so fast, but it is a company in Krung Thep (or Bangkok/BKK for the fahrangs) how build it. Then name of how tested it - how build-in and tested inside is free.
If you every get to UAE Ill take you round some high rise construction and if you want to see real power bus bars down in to some pump stations
Great video, and love the content, and seeky looks, Jordon keep up the good work mate!!
I hope youtube are paying your fair share in the adds revenue mate.... I had to sit through 7 lots of ad breaks during this 20m video.....
What apartments/ hotel was this, it looks very clean and modern
Done the same thing when in Spain , and Dubai .. most new builds are done well , it’s the old ones that are poor … Dubai was superb.
maybe the bigger meters supply like a penthouse type suite, are all the apartment's the same size?
Interesting how messy the fiber cables are compared to all the other wiring. Those white fiber cables are common, we have similar stuff in the US, I’ve got 1Gig fiber to my apartment and they use similar cables to distribute to each unit. It’s likely a single strand that uses coarse wave multiplexing to get bi-directional coms down a single strand.
9:38 At my time only Siemens City have had more as 100 MBit for every household. So I think they do now FTTH what make sin in a big apartment complex with many apartments. If you not rent it with internet it can be only FTTC - so you have ADSL at home only. Why do you not show your apartment so we can see it?
Why do you not have 2 fiber in one apartment - do you can double your speed or one company, one private. It is all mystery before do you not shown your apartment.
Of course power for the *active splitter* ! Without your lights not working. Very good structured work and cable laying.
1:21 This is a typical build of an emercency lighting. The power go off and the build-in battery starts the power and the light(s) starts. Do you buy this boxes normally with 1 till 4 lights. It is easy to install for the customer and easy to change. In history I pay around ๕๐๐฿ (500TBH) till ๑๕๐๐฿ (1500TBH) for one box at Tesco Lotus. The old one use 12V bulbs, this newer build use LED.
The plug and sockets are older copies of the British plugs how they use around 1900 in the British colonies around the Kingdom of Thailand. They are normal around in Asia. If you are rich or love security do you use British plug and sockets, e.g. for hot pot, hot pan, rice cooker, mostly in business buildings, e.g. Restaurants.
Maybe where we see the energy meters for each apartment, the ones with slightly bigger cables are the furthest away and volt drop was a factor so they increased the cable size?
We rented an apartment in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. There was no way i was going to have a sneak peek at the electrical control rooms in my 47 floor apartment block, the security throughout was very good.
We came across some very dangerous exposed live parts whilst walking through some older parts of town, an empty fuse carrier that had live parts exposed to any animal of any kind.
I got the impression that in Malaysia, they take electrical safety, in particular, lightning safety very seriously.
when visiting Pattaty i stay in the nags head on 2en Road (recommended)..the isolator for the electric shower is with you in the cubical..,, yes you can touch the live uncovered terminal if you want to do so when you have a shower ,,,I have photo
Plug-in tap off have been used worldwide for donkeys years , odds on the bus bars are copper. Enjoy the fruits of your labours ( and of of course your employees) Jordan , when I was in KL I found a grand helpful maintenance man so fortunately I didn’t have to trespass
I was waiting for the video to cut to security chasing you down the corridor 👮👉🪛😮😄. Really interesting video, I hope you enjoy your travels.
A security guard probably would have politely asked him to leave the unfinished floor. If the guard doesn't speak English he might ask a supervisor for assistance. Even then, since Jordan is a harmless looking foreigner, they would not make a big issue out of it. Its not exactly illegal to wander off through open doors to unused floors.
I would be careful with these kind of fire exits though as they could be connected to an alarm system.
@@ChristianWagner888 it's likely disconnected due to being an in-progress building, tho it should always be connected since it's occupied...
The conduit looks like the most common type you see here in the United States and Canada. EMT. The connectors look identical. Honestly a ton of what they do appears to be influenced by North American ways of doing things like the large boxes, and huge oversized equipment.
I own a villa in Phuket wirings safer than most houses in the Uk.
I'm curious to know what your views are on the impacts of mining TCE's to aid our switch to EV's.
Hello Andrew, you said back in England that your trip would include Vietnam. I can,t wait for your reaction to Vietnamese wiring! Their H.V. Stuff is pretty good, (but, the again, it HAS to be), On the road from Saigin north west out to Tay Ninh you might see a brand of distribution transformer with coloured primary bushing caps in red, blue and yellow and they have matching fuses and air-breaks to go with also coloured…so keeping track of the phases is a sinch.
Their L.V. Stuff is another matter though. in Saigon there has been MASSIVE infrastructure work in the last two decades, most of the L.V. Is being placed underground, (abd a good deal of the H.V. Stuff too). New distribution transformers are on plinths and you should see a lot of those, usually 500 or 750KVA. You might have to look sround a bit to find the old Saigon lattice poles and concrete “Waffle Poles”. These had about three lots of three phase, sharing a single neutral stretched really tightly between them and all withinn a squaew foot or so, the tightness was to prevent sag whan birds perched on them. I thin there are still some in Ng Tat To street in Phuong 19 Binh Thanh District to the north east of the CBD across the Thi Nghe Channel, you might also find some older dual pole mounted distribution transformers there, (Hem 174 Dien Bien Phu Street).
In newer builds the wiring quality is getting a lot better, they use the Australian colour code, neutral, black, active, red, Earth/CPE, green with yellow trace…However in old places anything goes! Aerial feeders to premisis are grey-black twiated pair about 10 mil squared, black, active, grey, phase. Once this passes the meter…anything is possible…the “children” take over the wiring. The sense of what is active and neutral is GONE! And Earth? well what is that for? I have seen three phase with all three phases green with yellow trace, so watch yourself ! Blue and yellow seem to be popular wire colours, again, could be active or neutral! Needless to say, switches could be in the neutral side. Main switches are dual gang knife switches (usually with some form of slotted plastic cover) that break both active and neutral. Very old places have just one power circuit, about 8 mil squared insulated in paper, black and white, sub circuits “tee” off this in 1.5 mil to little sub boards on plastic Peg board with one snall “toy” porcelain rewirable fuse wedge, for or five outlets, three of witch accept NEMA and Schuko plugs snd one “combo” outlet that will take a British plug too, (Earth hole but no connection)… all these outlets are milded in one piece like a power strip. The peg board also includes a switch, mounted sideways for a fluoro battern…nearly always mountec on the wall and almost never on the ceiling. This “toy” switch has a glow on the dark Strontium Aluminate rocker! Often these little sub peg boards will have fans botched into them using figure 8. At my in-laws there is a 1.5Kw kettle and 5Kw heat as it flows shower that are wired with 1.5 mil!! So “have fun” when you get there!
Agreed, a lot of the transmission and HV distribution is well done in Vietnam. I've been in a few new substations and the quality and equipment is good, as well as out in the field with reclosers and sectionalizers. But yeah, once you get in to the LV wiring, anything and everything goes. No color code, the old peg boards still available for sale and just basic wiring from point A to B. No pride in work, no craftsmanship, no desire to have it work for more than a month. Usually.... I have seen some good installs but far and few between. I do have an electrical company here in Vietnam, so I do a lot of work behind people to make it safer and more reliable. I also try to train locals on better practices to make them better as well. In a lot of the cases, it's not laziness, it's just no one ever showed them a safer, better way. I have seen some nice work in larger commercial buildings, but that is hit or miss too.
Sounds a bit like 50s/60s wiring in Austria. Technically the German VDE regs stipulated wire colours but in reality everything was the same. Some electricians used different colours for different circuits (but always the same for line and neutral of each circuit), others did whole flats and houses in one colour and some colour-coded switch lines and strappers. In one place I even found half the flat wired in VDE colours (grey neutral, black line) and the other half all green. Earths were usually red but red could be a number of other things as well (that actually conformed to the VDE regs, they were quite ambiguous on the use of that colour). Three-phase supplies were often four black wires or any other colour. Until 1959 domestic sockets weren't earthed except in the kitchen where the earth was connected to the water pipe. Even the first completely earthed buildings used the plumbing as the main earth. The same place with the mix of colours, built in 1960, used a red 1.5 mm2 from the stop tap in the kitchen to the nearest junction box in the adjacent bedroom. If an unsuspecting electrician had disconnected the bedroom circuit at the fuse board the whole flat would have lost all earthing, the main from the meter was just 6 mm2 four-core.
In 1965 the harmonised colours were introduced, black line, blue neutral and green/yellow earth. Austria added a one-year transitional period for installations already in planning or under construction, during which the neutral was still to be grey but the earth green/yellow, just to make things extra confusing. The latest installation according to those transitional colours I've found so far was built in 1974. Eight years after the transitional period ended. The same installation also had green and yellow lines throughout, which had been banned in 1965 to avoid confusion with the earth. Only by the late 70s colours were mostly standardised and by and large installations are considered safe by current regs once you get things like 100 mA main RCDs out of the way.
From the telecom world. this was lovely to see. considering western countries don't do such a good job making things look nice. And yes that's a fiber wavelength splitter or a (WDM) with the current DB loss. I have seen one of those tiny fiber cables in an old apartment block once but could not find the name of it. Would be nice to see more of these kinds of videos in the future. And hi from Cory's wife's home country.
I don't think it's a WDM splitter, it's probably a PON splitter.
so you took all the money and moved to thailand ?
fiber cable is composed of tubes, and fibers are inside those tubes. there are 12 available colors for fibers , tubes, supertubes
Thanks Jordan, very interesting indeed
Next week Jordan looks at the electrics of the 5th floor of the Yanggakdo Hotel, Pyongyang...
I live in Thailand and you never even told me you were here!
4:12 Actually it is not very nice. You should not bend RF coax cables on a tight radius. The tension puts pressure on the internal insulator and makes the core migrate out of the center. This creates impedance discontinuities which cause RF signals to be partially reflected back. In short, every tight bend has the potential to cause some signal loss.
5:30 This all *not* typically Thailand installation. I think it is Bangkok City law's and farang companies how want it nice and neatly.
Hey buddy I've lived here 30 years why don't you relax and enjoy one of the Worlds best cities and Thai hospitality.
The mess of cables in the electricity poles are not electricity wires. They are fiber, telecom TV etc. Each company putting cables in the poles should pay rent to PEA (MEA in Bangkok) but to ofen they don't do that so the electricity authority has a lot of probllems when doing jobs along the power lines when they don't know who all the cables belongs to. My wife is a deputy manager at PEA and explained this is a real problem.
Are you sure you can do all this without getting into trouble with the authorities? It's not Tunbridge Wells.
Absolutely loved this style of video, thankyou ♥
You are very welcome 🙏
Interesting stuff Jordan. Looks like a well designed system in that tower block. it's a far cry from the electrics on show in Kho San Road, Bangkok. Question. How many times a day have you and the wife said. Its hot or I am hot?
The answer to your lost question is quite a bit haha
WWTP - waste water treatment plant? Love the channel and I'm a plumber 😁
Considering that is a new apt, the electric meters are the old school analogue not new digital meters
That was fascinating.
I couldn't get a good view of the fibers, it looks like they're running single strand bi-directional fiber to all of the apartments, which honestly is a good way to do it. This is generally referred to as a PON (Passive Optical Networking) setup which has significant advantages in the field such as single fiber deployments (one fiber for multiple subscribers) and passive splitters for distribution. The one laser light coming from the OLT is sent into the PON run and is then optically split amongst a handful of subscribers using the PON splitter (one fiber can carry 4,8,16,32,+ subscribers depending on OLT configuration) and it's all done using specialized cuts in fiber instead of active regeneration (receiver/transmitter). Depending on the size of the OLT, one could service hundreds of customers with a single device with a high PON port count and proper configuration, without sacrificing stability of the links or speed. Currently, the orignal PON standard was GPON (Gigabit Passive Optical Networking) but lately, a newer standard called XGS-PON has popped up (10 Gigabit Symmetrical Passive Optical Networking) using the same single-fiber passive deployments, but newer OLTs and ONTs.
At the subscriber end of the PON, a specialized ONT will be installed that terminates the fiber into Ethernet (usually gigabit, although 2.5 and 10G copper/SFP+ ONTs may exist too). A lot of people like to misconstrue that the ONT is just a dumb media converter (while there may be some configurations where this is true, this is most often NOT the case.), the truth of the matter is that the ONT at the subscriber end is a lot more advanced than appearances would show. The ONT can provide diagnostic information, line signal information, and even some CPE information (MAC address, link state, speed, errors on port, etc..) which allows the provider to do a complete diagnostic from the Internet-facing edge of their network all the way to the subscriber's CPE to vet the operability of their service. The downside of the OLT/ONT pairing is that they are usually very proprietary, meaning that an ONT that's Alcatel branded, may not work on a Huawei branded OLT.
Best response I’ve seen to describe how PON works and the different elements to it. A doff of my network engineers hat to you sir
I guess "good way to do it" is dependent on the objectives you have for the network and at what level the aggregation happens. IMO, if you're putting fiber in, don't mess with all that and put one fiber per dwelling to be future proof: it's more expensive in the beginning, but offers a lot of future (or present) opportunities.
Here in Switzerland, this discussion is so critical that the incumbent (Swisscom) has been ordered by the competition/anti-monopoly agency to go back and spend hundreds of millions to convert the installed PON base to individual fibers to each dwelling. The reason is that by law the fiber network has to be open for competitors and with PON, the incumbent has power to limit what competitors launch.
For example, the ISP I use is a smaller ISP which offers 1G/10G/25G symmetrical, all for the same monthly price (only the one-time setup fees differ, since this is when they cover the different price of the optics + cost of the individual ports in the gear). If the incumbent had been allowed to run a PON-only network, they would be the ones deciding which speeds are allowed on the network, but since all they can do is lease a dark fiber to the competition, they have no such power now.
Looks like pon yeah. At 9:40 you can see fibre 1 - 8 1490nm -19.58 and 1550 -3.62 not sure if they're decibel documentation or not. So everyone with the same wavelength with rx tx SFP. But he did mention there were four tubes out of the incoming supply, could be some weird extra sheathing for four fibres or the normal G48 with four tubes of 12 for future proofing in case they use single fibre from the Node instead of pon in the future.
Ive worked all over the world... The far east is much better than most other areas... India... Many places in the ME... and then theres africa...
You know you’re dealing with a lot of power.
When the breaker switches start looking like something from jurassic park!😂😂
It was certainly scary stuff when i went there 15years ago with cables everywhere lol
Thankfully it is getting a lot better now with the new builds.
Ha, yup . . Same across Asia, China, Japan. . One big clip and free electric for half the people 😀
I got a shock from my laptop's power cable in a 5 star resort in Krabi because the sockets were unpolarised, ungrounded 2 pin US sockets and i plugged in my UK laptop power supply through a travel adapter and I happened to guess the orientation of the plug wrong the first time
1000 apartments, 6 charging ports... Future proofed 😂😂
Those charging ports near entrance looked like more as visitor parking. There might be parking garage floors in the basement of the building.
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The wiring in those switchrooms was so neat Cory could have done it
We had huge arcing outside our condo building. Looked scary
in the philippines, have seen electric show plug in in the shower, (trinon) to be fair, the socket was about a foot above
I loved the video. Great to be able to have a look inside service cupboards. I wonder if they use electricity or gas for Hot water in Thailand high rise buildings?
Electric water heater under the sink in condos. I use solar thermal in my house
WWTP - Waste water treatment plant! How sad am I to know that!
Surprised no one confronted you.. lucky you weren’t arrested for spying ! Lol
It’s Thailand, not China.
@@Pugjamin close enough… 😂
@@PugjaminVietnam I think similar with China
@@jvoricactually authoritian government pretty common in Southeast Asia, except for Singapore with good governess. Except Singapore and Brunei , rest of south East Asia and a few country have less freedom (too much conservative)
@Izzy-vz6iu you do realise communists are left wing the literal opposite of conservatives
hmm jordan goes for long hol to take a break from electrics and stuff... but finds some really cool electrical stuff and just has to say "blow bn on hols, this is fascinating! sparky hat on!" 😂😂
tbh im glad he did! that was interesting (even for a non sparky!)
No matter what I do, I always got the sparky hat on 😂
One of the best videos.. thanks
Ooh, what a very interesting explore here! 😀 Many thanks Jordan, and here's hoping you also took the opportunity to document some of the more _traditional_ aspects of Thai electrical installations before pressing on to Indonesia! 😇
Quick question about the 3ph isolation unit at 12:15 - The label on that implies (To me at least; But I'm not a qualified Sparky) that the unit is „Plugged“ into the busbar riser. But for a 3ph 2kA circuit these surely can't be tapping the busbar with simple spring or friction contacts (As opposed to bolts)...Can they? ⚡🔥😲
Finally: An excellent example of an everyday *high* current electrical system is the third rail traction supply used on our railways in the south/east of England. Although these are low voltage by definition (750v) the current flow is *extremely high* for a system with exposed contact points, and the thinnest conductor I've seen anywhere on these systems is no less than 100mm diameter. 😲
If I understand correctly these carry about *50kA* in normal operation, and being *DC* too they won't appear to bite too much...But when they do, it'll be the sort of bite that chargrills a Bovine in a mere fraction of a second! 🐄⚡🔥🍖😨
If you're interested in learning more about tap-off units, have a read at the Schneider or Eaton busbar catalogues. The tap-off units won't be bolted to the riser; it'll be a heavy-duty levered connection...
Also the connection from the tap-off unit to the switchboard (14:26 in video)...to me it looks like the connection was made via busbar, not cables (the trunking has quite small bends...you wouldn't be able to achieve that bend radius using cables that you'd typically use for a 2000A, 400V connection...)
Good to see that the EV chargers are where the fire service can get at them easily.
where you looked at the meters ,you got a meter for each apartment ,and then the larger meters at the bottom each meter 5 smaller ones,
Some parts of New Zealand use the same looking bell wire looking Fibre