“The MAGA Diaries” Goes Inside the Movement That Gave Rise to Trump | Amanpour and Company
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- Tina Nguyen was drawn to the conservative movement as a college student. But, after internships and jobs that centered around right-wing talking points, she left that world behind. Nguyen is a journalist at Puck and details her political journey in her new book "The MAGA Diaries." She speaks with Hari Sreenivasan.
Originally aired on February 2, 2024
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Thankfully she's smart enough to figure it out. Some people I know are not.
Some aren't MAGA because of policy, they're MAGA because no one is expressing their frustration/fury.
@@buzoff4642 Ahh you're talking about the angry republicans who don't get laid and can't talk to women because they won't just shut up and do as they are told?
@@buzoff4642the term for that is ideology. Maga has no policies. Just grievance and revenge.
cultists are not necessarily dumber than the general public.
at the core of their affinity to bs sits a hijacked trust system; the vast majority were successfully tricked into not trusting 'the outside world', they're victims of disinformation...
information, logic/smarts don't generally work for that reason (sometimes they don't trust even their own common sense). w/o regaining their trust first, it's close to impossible to reach their intellects
It helps if you belong to certain demographics.
Excellent questions that got some solid answers, well at least as much as one can with MAGA ideology.
Thank you!
Do men get pregnant? Democrats say so.
She said 'the conservative movement did not have an immune system against populism' 😮😮😮. That's the best line in the interview 😅 Great job
Does the liberal movement have one? Bernie Sanders runs populist campaigns and is still well-liked among liberals, is he not?
As usual for this show, an illuminating, useful, thoughtful and civil interview. Thanks. We need more of this!
Smart and decent, America needs many more like this woman. Bravo.
She makes intriguing oral sounds. It must be the tonal influence of her parents' native tongue.
Interesting to learn about the college pipeline. I visited CMC when I was that age and couldn't believe how much money was funding that place. The donors surely make it a priority to keep that tap open.
Also struck by how close her description of the conservative social network is to a modern Christian one... as in, as long as you tow the line you're in, but as soon as you question or have any belief outside the narrow cultural view then you're cut off and booted out. Very insular and intolerant, driven by fear.
Like a cult…
Rather reminds me of polygamist communities in Utah. Everything is about control, including through brainwashing and instilling fear in followers.
@@EH23831 Suggested reading, The Crisis Of Democracy. As of early 1970s, the West's/Westernized elites upset they lost control over the population, including religious power over population.
The link is at the bottom of the page: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Crisis_of_Democracy
That is very much Fascism
Trump is a cult leader!
🔳 Being Republican and repudiating Trump is equivalent to Amish-born individuals who criticize their religion. Not only will they be ostracized from the church, but they will be cut off from their families. It’s too much for most people.
Except trump very new in the history of the Republican party....birth religion is exactly that ...your religion from birth
So you're saying MAGA is a cult. Yeah, we knew that
It happened to me. I lost my sister because of Trump because she thinks she's an elite even though she's not!
@@bethpent8851 it means you're an elite too 😎
@@bethpent8851 I’m sorry this happened to you. Same in my family.
What gets me is that people in the republican party and trump supporters applied for student law forgiveness also.
Every single person is unique with their own priorities. It's ridiculous to presume every person of a group is identical.
@@buzoff4642 isn't that what you assume about the left? so its okay for you to do it but not others? Classic Cult
It's called hypocrocy! The bulk of the maggots and repugnetibs eat, breathe and sleep hypnotically!
They'll convince themselves that Trump cancelled their debt.
I think you meant student loan.
Tina Nguyen is a smart young woman -- thank you for interviewing her Mr. Sreenivasan!! Great job. UNFORTUNATELY, the MAGA folks who need to see this, will not. Makes me sad. GO FORTH, Ms. Nguyen -- and keep speaking up! We need conservatives and liberals together -- because we must work together FOR this huge country. 💙❤💙❤
Trump will destroy America as we know it . This is so worrying!
Lol
This woman has paid her dues and is staying true to her vision of being a journalist.She has some hard won battlescars,and is becoming a seasoned fighter.Keep the faith.
What's the faith?🤔
@@paulheydarian1281 Hey Paul,one way of looking at your question, it is seeking and speaking the truth,to care for people,and help build a system that allows these actions.
Seems very strange that she seems to think that reverence for the Founding Fathers is a Conservative value. Perhaps she doesn't know much about this country's liberal roots?
It's like picking parts of the Bible and ignoring the story.
They are good at that too.
@@alanshackelford6450 So is Far Left. Ex: broad brush "asylum seekers". Only upon busloads arriving, is Boston now willing to admit asylum seekers, refugees and economic migrants.
@@buzoff4642 What?
@@buzoff4642it’s the dropping off of trafficked migrants without letting anyone know when and where they are going. Get off fox “not the news” and learn about reality.
The bible is not real history or truth. People who still believe in an invisible god belong in a cult.
The thing about the founding fathers is they were driven by very progressive ideals embodied most powerfully in the writings of Thomas Paine. Jefferson said there would be no revolution without Paine. Washington said that Paine sharpened the sword that won the war. When conservatives talk about the founding fathers they usually only reference the Federalists, who were just one piece of a larger puzzle.
I don't know about you, but I sort of see the conservative mindset siding with the loyalists. By definition, they want to keep the status quo, right? It's funny because they have always self-proclaimed themselves as experts on the founding of the country. Highly doubt they would have been on the right side of that debate...
And who is the Thomas Paine of this era? 🤔
@@paulheydarian1281 hard to say. When Paine was writing anyone questioning the divine right of kings was considered a radical. Maybe Bernie?
Fascinating!
She was clearly well-meaning and not trying to be unresponsive, so I’m very sorry you didn’t follow up on the fact that she seemingly misunderstood your question about how strange it is, that the right wing was asking her to do exactly what they’ve accused the left wing of doing for decades… An excellent question and one deserving of response.
If you can figure out a way to see yourself as a victim, you have Self-righteous indignation available to use.
Self-righteous anger is a heady drug, and addictive as F!
I am starting a MAGOT movement. Make America Great, Oust Trump. 😂😂😂😂
I'll support you with my silence and extreme indifference.
Sounds more like bowel movement which is the same as being liberal.
For Vietnamese out there, in a sense, MAGA is MTGPMN (Mặt Trận Giải Phóng Miền Nam) a group of no doubt patriots but naive in politics, helping Việt Cộng took over S. Viet Nam. They were labeled Ăn Cơm Quốc Gia Thờ Ma Cộng Sản (benefited off S. VN freedom and economic to help Viet Công). It’s a nightmare for me to see history repeats itself when I see Vietnamese refugees joining MAGA voting for Trump.
Oh no. Thanks for this information. I hope somehow the truth can get out to them.
Glad you escaped the cult.
Interesting interview, Personal Morality override Political Beliefs... Are there any Conservative Republican available? Why do we still want Donald Trump to lead the party?
Mind blowingly informative!! Thank you!!
Salute
Exactly!!!
Have a great weekend, Mr. Sreenivasan.
She’s sharp and had enough integrity to step away. That she did that highlights folks who do not step away.
💙 💙 💙 💙 V O T E 💙 💙 💙 💙 💙 💙 💙 💙 V O T E 💙 💙 💙 💙
When the public manages to get the voting process out of the two parties' hands, only then will we have more realistic representation.
She's a real journalist. I'm so glad that there are journalists like her who are against decontextualising the truth or lying under the guise of reporting with integrity.
I'm a small 'c' conservative. I didn’t leave conservatism, the MAGA’s left me, much like they've left thoughtful and intelligent conservatives like Tina Nguyen. Trump and his cult are not conservative. They don’t want to build; their vision is to tear down. They look towards a past that has only existed in autocratic dictatorships around the world.
Lol. Actually, you were never conservative then and that is fine. What liberals believe to be "conservative" is the Neoconservative brand that is a construct of the Democrats and was born on the 60s/70s. MAGA is the return of the Republican party to it's Paleoconservative roots. No one in MAGA is looking at autocratic dictatorships.
@tmeyer2022 You've hit the nail on the head. They exist for a path that has autocratic dictatorship written all over it. Just read their 2025 manifesto. They already have an oligarchy corpratocracy. But they want it ALL. It's their all and nothing Ayn Rand Milton Friedman mind set. A Monarch class...
and peasants. Just like the good old days. Fuck that. Don't start the revolution without me. 😮
According to the Encyclopedia Britannica, Edmund Burke lived from 1729-1797. Perhaps she meant to say the "18th century"?
We live in the 21st Century, that is, the 2000s. Similarly when we say "20th Century," we are referring to the 1900s. All this because, according to the calendar we use, the 1st Century included the years 1-100 (there was no year zero), and the 2nd Century, the years 101-200.
Well..... thank yoh Mrs. Crabtree!
@@davidtran2435 Bud, I'd bet you that 95% of the population thinks that 1729 is in the 17th century.
What a great interview subject, I'll be looking for her book! THANKS!
Very good. I actually learned something
Cool to hear that in these times!!
I think she just said she couldn't live with integrity and be a MAGA supporter.
Makes sense, she has just experienced serious upward mobility. MAGA is about grievances. What's this bright accomplished young lady have to be aggrieved about?
Expound on MAGA integrity, would you? Genuine question, I'd appreciate a genuine answer. Are you saying there's MAGA integrity, or are you saying she has integrity that contradicts MAGA?
If so.... makes sense!!
@@buzoff4642 I think that MAGA followers are feeling something real and would be where they are politically with or without MAGA. So I guess you could call that integrity. This writer is saying she was asked to write things that she knew weren't true in order to advance a narrative and so she quit as a matter of integrity.
@@titanman33if you have not experienced upward mobility, do you really think that your grievances are addressed by the party who only works for the millionaire and billionaire class while telling you they do not? Clue: The Republican Party.
Tina is an intelligent , brave , decent young lady. I hope she stays safe.
you are gorgeous and smart
You abuse the definition of those adjectives with your description. She's articulate.
The GOP has dug itself into such a deep hole over the last 7-8 years and they just keep digging. My former party is unsavable at this point, and it will take at least a generation to overcome. Quite possibly two generations.
They've been digging a hole since Nixon and Reagan, but really picked up steam since Newt Gingrich's Contract with America which morphed into the Tea Party/MAGA cult. They have poisoned generations of people with these neo-fascist ideology which was also so prevalent in American society between the inter-war and cold war period in which antisemitism, immigration and the Red Scare was used to indoctrinate solidify young voter blocks.
She has figured you out alright.
Some people can't see the deviosness of these people.
The rot is from the root.
Tina Nguyen's story shows how much environment--and peer pressure--shapes (& being swept up) views and politics; that is, family, geographic region & institutional culture and norms. She mentioned most Vietnamese are conservative, which is something I didn't know. She also touched on minority groups low key resenting each other at times based on fairness: how minority groups get things that other minority groups think they earned. But, it seems that conservative thought promotes that whatever your situation, it's your responsibility to do something about it.
What a smart person. This interview lets Nguyen speak and make coherent points. On MSNBC they never let the author speak.
She has Edmund Burke ("a philosopher from the late Eighteen hundreds") just a century wrong. Burke is an Eighteenth Century philososopher (which is probably what she meant to say) who died in 1797
I doubt Maga Conservatives could read Burke's political texts. By coïncidence, I am trying to read him currently, and it is very philosophical with a litterary style hard to understand. Yes he was very suspicious of innovations, but on the basis of serious analysis and rejecting "declamations". He would be horrified by the Maga way of "thinking".
The American Ideal? So, even if not MAGA conservative, that's how we should live? Can you define that American Ideal, please, because from where I sit it has such a loose meaning that it doesn't exist
She's speaking from expectations based on the shiny US marketing brochure. A much easier sell abroad.
Here are four steps to help you:
1) Don't poke your neighbors much.
2) expect better things from yourself.
3) Don't have unrealistic expectations of life in general.
4) Find the inner beauty in toast & oatmeal.
College should not be like high school.
America was great before DT came on the presidential scene.
Now I understand. Brilliant commentary.
This reminds me of that Spike Lee movie - Blackkklansman…but in terms of the movement, I think DJT watched Sarah Palin and the Tea Party take hold… it weirdly shows in his beef with John McCain.
They come to high schoolers home as soon as they are of voting age to start influencing them.
Folks meeting with Trump would be wise to scratch their foreheads with their middle finger. This is how Trump views everyone.
That's inherent to narcissists.
Even that one Miss Wisconsin winner? He didn't once brag about that.
The fact that she joined the maga group makes me question her ability to be basically discerning.
You're a hundred years off on Edmund burke, Tina. Think both French and American revolutions, but mentally in the shadow of the English Civil War..
He was born in 1729, died in 1796.
Don’t worry about it, troll. You’re not even a real human being.
If you think that remotely invalidates what she said, you’re on drugs.
@@coimbralawLol, chill out American Psycho, he didn’t say that it did
We have found our History major.
Many people have difficulty distinguishing the 18th-century and the eighteen hundreds. They assume they're the same thing. 😊
Did she get out? She still sounds more MAGA than not.
It's a process, just like AA. 😮
Lol, Tina certainly tripped up when she demonized socialism. I'm assuming heir parents fled from Communism and authoritarianism not from Scandinavian and Western European socialism which is very well baked into certain levels of American society - government, academia and the military. Therefore, Republicans have done a good job in poisoning the minds American born children of immigrants. I'm dumbfounded by the notion that a young bright student and 'person of color' on campus could walk by a 'dreamer student' and also a 'person of color' believing they don't belong here and should go back to where they came from. Democrats need to do a better job in messaging because MAGA Repuplicans have had 3 generations of crafting their propaganda craft through regular right-wing media outlets like FOX, televangelists and conservative radio talkers like Rush Limbaugh and the social media propaganda network of influencers who came out of the Breitbart News incubator.
😊
Special thanks to all our parents for being so brave to arrive at Ellis Island and Go Ye Forth. Dave P
The great tension college students face isn’t between conservatism and liberalism, but knowledge and ignorance.
Make
America
Golf
Again
In the search for any balls.
And golf at your own golf resorts, so that you can rent half carts to the Secret Service at top dollar prices. The Great Grifter.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@stevechance150 We can nationalize the golf courses and make them part of the National Park Service.
She makes a lot of good points and has interesting insights. Her affect is somewhat disconcerting though. She would benefit from polishing her presentation, imho.
_The MAGA Diaries_ does not contain a single reference to Paul Weyrich, who was a leading voice that helped to give rise to the MAGA movement. What we see play out today is directly from Weyrich's playbook.
Vietnamese community is drawn to MAGA from what I’ve seen
key topic - immigrants not know or understanding US history.
Does anyone else get the sense she’s talking about leaving a cult?
"the campaign that gave rise to..." YOU MEAN RUSSIA? Thats what I thought you meant.
STOP GENOCIDE NOW!!!
We want P E A C E🌎✨🕊
Edmund Burke died in 1797.
Another born-again hawking a book
I just said in another forum that this MAGA conservatism of today is at its worst completely reactionary. Ms. Nyguen said the same thing here.
I discovered very little during this interview. I wish Hari had tried harder to probe Nguyen.
The woman is a chameleon. Willing to shape shift as long as her sense of entitlement, to whatever, is satisfied. Write a book? ....just another side hustle in the sad gig economy of U.S. politics. Tina Nguyen will be just another nobody in a months time when the news cycle moves on. She'll live - after all, she's "special".
But the book. You can read can't you?
@@stevechance150 But the book? You can spell, can't you?
What did you want that was missing? The theme she discovered was, you'll write on the topic we tell you, and along with the agenda position we tell you.
I see that in Far Left leaning also, the agenda topics and the position.
We all, for many and varied reasons, have our core set of beliefs, mostly from parents and colleagues. We are all motivated mainly by beliefs. From that point onward, it is comfortable to go with the flow. Political and religious affiliations are high-profile items and are taken very seriously. It is not difficult now to appreciate that swimming against the tide becomes virtually impossible.
Half of registered voters are Independent. Clearly the population isn't going with the flow.
@@shahnulislam9897 It is naive to believe we are demographic blocks with precision proscribed beliefs. Be those beliefs from exposure to parents', religion, politicians, etc.
@@buzoff4642 what?
If a Fix channel interviewer had made the comment Hari made they would be called racist. Disappointing. And this turned out to be uninteresting in addition.
And thats why the right loves candace owens. She did the exact opposite than your guest. Carrie lake. Sydney powell. Rudy juliani. Majorie green. Jim jordan. Etc.....
MAGA is like any relationship when both sides are using each other to get something. When one or the other individual no longer finds the other useful, they leave. She wanted to be a Journalist, and when MAGA was now an obstacle to that, she left. I’m not so sure that makes her any less of a grifter.
Is that not the basis of political representation?
For some, but for most I’d like to think they share common goals and are not basing it on a transactional relationship. Using each other to achieve different goals is a poor way to base a friendship. In her case this was an opportunity to build a career, not because she believed in a cause. I guess you can’t betray a cause when you’re in it just for the money.
@@whysoserious8666
"I'd like to think"?
"common goal" == "finds the other useful"
@@whysoserious8666 "Just for the money" is the partisan donors - USChamber of Commerce, Heritage Foundation, etc.s
"Just in it for the money" would've kept pumping out employer-defined/demanded articles - the Wisconsin hype BS from the likes of DeVos and such.
Why? These MAGA people of color, have not been taught multicultural USA history. Not just foreign born but people who had books and teachers that taught a one sided look at our history. I agree the Republican and Dem should re-write immigration laws but each congressman is too busy trying to turn their position into a career.
😂
Love that MAGA stuff. Great news, can't wait until 2025 ..... MAGA is so much better than Bidefail
Both sides d,o the same thing in media......it is not only the Republicamns ! Independent journalism has been lost in the shuffle !
Burke died 1797, so didn't write in the late 1800's.
Who cares?!
I didn't get what I wanted from the movement so I fell out with it 😂 I could not make that judgement otherwise 😂 so I decided my career might take off if I pivoted. So self interested
She's a conservative, which directly contradicts Republican corruption, most obviously notable in their embracing of Trump. Similarly, Trump, an embracer of Democrats, but since his railing would never get him elected, he embraced the R camp to get on their ballot.
So self interested, agreed. First she studies journalism in college, then she has the nerve to pursue a career in journalism. If she just stayed in the movement, she might've met President Donald J. Trump one day.
Grifter says what? Her old grift wasn't working anymore, so she got a new one. That's what she says.
Woman of colour? I have a lot to learn
Boston is racist as hell 😂😂
Racist: "I'm not getting the reception I expect."
I've got some paint drying to watch; a lawn to mow; a nose to pick; a scrote to scratch. Nope, 4 mins in I am out.
5 minutes 11 seconds and I'm gone. The voice, the delivery. Can't take it. I applaud her publishing a book, but the presentation is less than convincing.
And the anonymous online readers care what raptor is doing because...?
im not surprised! (That you are)!
Well, there it is… she chased a boy 🙄
Women, do better!!
Obama publicly made fun of Trump at the President's Correspondence Dinner nonstop. That humiliation, which Trump probably secretly enjoyed, provoked him to run seriously for president.
Yep.
He’d been talking about running for president for years before that.
He ran before that WH dinner… he ran and dropped out in 2000. No doubt the Obama jokes were the impetus to run again.
I seriously doubt that he enjoyed it at all, but yes, it certainly provoked him, and is still stinging his hide to this day.
I ❤ Obama but I am sure if he could go back in time he would not have done that. This guy DJT is the most petty man in the Western hemisphere. His boy in Moscow has that title in the Eastern one.
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Oof
I don't even know what this woman is talking about.
I believe that; one must be intelligent to fo that!
Why did you get out?
She has integrity.
The good news? This author is antimaga. The bad news? Her voice is like nails on a chalk board. 😮
Trump 2024 !!! 🙏🙏🙏 💪
Prayers the devil's apprentice?
@@jerrystephenson6198 Biden told all the criminals of the world that it's ok to do Counterfeit $$, that it's ok to pull a gun on a pregnant woman & rob her, ok to be on drugs, ok to resist from the police & if you die from your actions, Biden will say sorry to your family & give millions.
Embarrassing
@jerrystephenson6198 Biden's corrupted bad luck with the Devil, lost his 1st wife when she died. His daughter and son died. Now his crack head son.
Biden, you may kill your family but you won't kill us Americans