Finally anyone compare svart401 old and new models. But for me more interesting difference on the engines powers, because engine blocks are totally changed on the new one.
I go with the older look too. There are some features that could be good from the new one, but overall the older one is more beautiful, more all together, and there are some things that really bother me with the new one, like the frame, position of the rear suspension, exhaust, exhaust cover the visible plastic on the left side under the frame. Maybe for the next update the will get closer the the older look....
Me encanta el modelo anterior. El diseño muy neo conservando las particularidades de una moto retro corta y aguil. Sería genial poder adaptarles cosas de las 2024 como, la pantalla, el exosto y la suspensión delantera.
great content, thank you! appreciate the little every day details you provide. still love everything about this bike, wish i grabbed one when i had the opportunity! the older styling is much cleaner imho, if i end up with a new one first change will be a tall tidy kit lol! thanks again for the video!
I am currently on a Duke 200 and aiming to upgrade my bike... just for the style (and even with the lower ground clearance and fuel tank capacity) I would go for the 23 model. Even better, a cheaper price makes it a bang for a buck! I'd invest that saving on some accesories for the oldie Svart Thanks for you video! Greetings from Mexico~
P.s: the display is practically the same as my Duke's, so the transition would be way easier and IMHO I believe that less is more. A simpler machine would give me less issues than a more sophisticated, yet the fun wouldn't be dimished
Seen both in the dealer, the old version looks much better and bigger than the new one. The new one is not anymore special but looks like other ordinary bikes
1. How big of difference is there regarding the stance and stability of the new 2024 Svartpilen versus previous models driving on the highway? My commute involves getting on the highway. 2. As far as price goes, would you recommend buying a new 2024 Svartpilen stock or buying a previous model used and then adding a FuelX Lite, K&N air filter, DNA air filter cover, plus protection mods? I am in the States where there are less restrictions.
Sounds like the new model might be the best for you. It's a little bigger and a little more stable. A naked bike on the highway is fun but can get tiring. I get a sore neck after about an hour because you have a lot of wind blasting on your helmet. The 2024 model also has a wider, more comfortable seat. It will be interesting seeing what kind of aftermarket parts become available for it.
Personally option on What husky needed to do instead of coming up with a lazy designed bike. keep the exact same design, but put in a bigger oil tank, extend the bike size like the 2024 model and thats it. Seat heights, display don’t matter. Agreed?
No Sir, I do not agree. I think people who are unsure or dont like the new one should watch a video detailing everything that they did with the 2024. Design wise? Its subjective of course but to me theyre sorta interchangeable. Love the cool modern look...on both.
I want the exhaust, that tyre hugger, same old place for rear turn indicators from the old variant. Also I'd love to change spoke wheels to Alloy. & Yes, It's true. There's no riding mode. No Bluetooth & Many other features that have been stripped away from Indian version of Svartpilen. Including Pirelli Scorpian Tyres. Hypocrisy 😂 at It's best.
The bike has only just been released so there aren't any reports of oil leaks (yet?). Neutral seems to be a bit easier but it isn't really a problem on the older models once you get used to it.
I don't like that the finish of the seat and the rear fender is with rounded lines in the 2024 model, because the %80 of the motorcycle is angular, with straight lines and it doesn't look good to adapt rounded lines to it by force. They would have simply lengthened it the back seat, but with right angles and they would have left the spray deflector on the rear wheel which looked very good!!! For me the 2024 model takes away the essence and personality of the bike. I would have changed the seat, but with right angles and left the spray deflector on the rear wheel....No me gusta que la terminación del asiento y el guardabarros trasero sea con líneas redondeadas en el modelo 2024, porque él %80 de la moto es angulosa, con líneas rectas y no le queda bien adaptarle líneas redondeadas a la fuerza, Simplemente le hubieran alargado el asiento trasero, ¡¡¡pero con ángulos rectos y le hubieran dejado el deflector de spray en la rueda trasera que le quedaba muy bien!!! Para mí el modelo 2024 le resta esencia y personalidad a la moto. Hubiera hecho el cambio del asiento, pero con ángulos rectos y dejado el deflector de spray en la ruda trasera....
I had a 2022 vitpilen 401 for over a year and it had a problem with stalling the whole time. I took it back to the dealership repeatedly and they never fixed it. It got stolen and damaged so insurance replaced it with a 2024 model and it is even worse. It stalled multiple times before I left the dealership and their advice was keep an eye on it en let us know how it goes. It stalls up to 12 times an hour, every ride with the clutch lever pulled all the way in. I took it for a diagnosis from an independent mechanic who told me not to ride it because it is too dangerous. I told home the only time I ride it is to take it back to the dealership. Today I took it back and told them I will never ride it again. We need to start a class action lawsuit against Husqvarna for endangering consumers with known faulty product and when we have gotten our compensation someone needs to do a Untied HealthCare hit on the Husqy CEO for wilfully continuing to put the public in danger.
Thanks for the detailed comment. That's quite a story and it sounds like you were pretty unlucky. I would be very annoyed if that happened to me and would demand my money back from the dealership. I'm releasing a new video next week about my experience with the bike.
I want the exhaust, that tyre hugger, same old place for rear turn indicators from the old variant. Also I'd love to change spoke wheels to Alloy. & Yes, It's true. There's no riding mode. No Bluetooth & Many other features that have been stripped away from Indian version of Svartpilen. Including Pirelli Scorpian Tyres. Hypocrisy 😂 at It's best.
Peace of shot engines made in India with engine blocks defected in casting , Cooling going start leaking only after 11.000 miles and no gasket replacement going to help you .
I think the new model has a better ground clearance and would be a better off-road machine.i have the money and money is not a concern.i like the older model and thinking to buy but which one.i don't care about tech and i am only concerned and keep thinking about the ground clearance would be a beneficial while offroad.whats your thought ?
Ground clearance hasn't really been an issue so far. It's not really a bike you're going to do heavy off-road riding on. I've only used it on some forest trails and on the beach. The 2024 model is a great bike but it isn't as unique as the previous models as far as design goes.
@@bikesonabudgetjapan I can get previous gen almost half the price in Australia.now I have another issue with 2023 model seat height is 835mm.i am a short guy 5 foot 7 inch is my height.i currently own Mt 09 2020 model seat height is 815 mm I barely can flat foot.
@@bikesonabudgetjapan I agree; I really like the previous model in the design as you said as well but I wasn't sure if I can reach the ground with both feet which is upsetting.i will definitely look into new one.
Finally anyone compare svart401 old and new models. But for me more interesting difference on the engines powers, because engine blocks are totally changed on the new one.
I go with the older look too. There are some features that could be good from the new one, but overall the older one is more beautiful, more all together, and there are some things that really bother me with the new one, like the frame, position of the rear suspension, exhaust, exhaust cover the visible plastic on the left side under the frame. Maybe for the next update the will get closer the the older look....
Thanks for taking the time to make the video. I hate the look of the new bike.
I think the new bike looks okay. It's just not as attention-grabbing as the old model.
yep im in love with my 2022 model svart. dont need much tech.
Thank you for your video! I do love the older look, the new updates is very tempting.
You're welcome.
I’m with you the older model has way more charm… But would love to have the new Tek on it. Great review thanks for putting it out there! 👍🏼😎👍🏼
Thanks. You're welcome.
Me encanta el modelo anterior. El diseño muy neo conservando las particularidades de una moto retro corta y aguil. Sería genial poder adaptarles cosas de las 2024 como, la pantalla, el exosto y la suspensión delantera.
You are not alone.
Solid video dude!
Gracias por tan buen comparativo, estoy por adquirir la nueva version, me sirve mucho tu trabajo, abrazote desde la Patagonia Argentina.
Muchas gracias por tu comentario!
Agreed I prefer the look of the older model.
Excellent comparison! Many thanks.
You're very welcome.
great content, thank you! appreciate the little every day details you provide. still love everything about this bike, wish i grabbed one when i had the opportunity! the older styling is much cleaner imho, if i end up with a new one first change will be a tall tidy kit lol!
thanks again for the video!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I am currently on a Duke 200 and aiming to upgrade my bike... just for the style (and even with the lower ground clearance and fuel tank capacity) I would go for the 23 model.
Even better, a cheaper price makes it a bang for a buck! I'd invest that saving on some accesories for the oldie Svart
Thanks for you video! Greetings from Mexico~
P.s: the display is practically the same as my Duke's, so the transition would be way easier and IMHO I believe that less is more. A simpler machine would give me less issues than a more sophisticated, yet the fun wouldn't be dimished
Thanks for the comments. It seems like there is a variety of opinions about the new model.
Love the new svart. You should check the new svart 801 coming out soon
The Setup at 3:17 has a really great layout! Does anyone know which bags and canister were used and how they got mounted? :)
m.th-cam.com/video/_SaZt2NgCNU/w-d-xo.html
Do you think we can remove the rear fender and set up a hugger mudguard on the new model, like on the old model? And also remove the rear grab rail?
Might be easier to just buy an older model but I think a lot of people would be interested in seeing that mod.
I love the mud hugger, do you guys think a mechanic can help me put it on the newer model?
Interesting idea but sounds like more trouble than it's worth.
Love the extra fuel tank and luggage! where can i find those?
New video coming soon on all the mods. In the meantime th-cam.com/video/_SaZt2NgCNU/w-d-xo.html
Seen both in the dealer, the old version looks much better and bigger than the new one. The new one is not anymore special but looks like other ordinary bikes
Pienso exactamente igual!
True, I totally agree.
1. How big of difference is there regarding the stance and stability of the new 2024 Svartpilen versus previous models driving on the highway? My commute involves getting on the highway.
2. As far as price goes, would you recommend buying a new 2024 Svartpilen stock or buying a previous model used and then adding a FuelX Lite, K&N air filter, DNA air filter cover, plus protection mods? I am in the States where there are less restrictions.
Sounds like the new model might be the best for you. It's a little bigger and a little more stable. A naked bike on the highway is fun but can get tiring. I get a sore neck after about an hour because you have a lot of wind blasting on your helmet. The 2024 model also has a wider, more comfortable seat. It will be interesting seeing what kind of aftermarket parts become available for it.
i would like to know how the two compare around corners and when leaning
Haven't really tried that but I guess the lower seat height would make the new model more "lean friendly." Hasn't been an issue on the older model.
The latest design doesn’t impress as much compared to the earlier model. Great comparison video.
Thanks 🙏
Personally option on What husky needed to do instead of coming up with a lazy designed bike. keep the exact same design, but put in a bigger oil tank, extend the bike size like the 2024 model and thats it. Seat heights, display don’t matter. Agreed?
No Sir, I do not agree. I think people who are unsure or dont like the new one should watch a video detailing everything that they did with the 2024.
Design wise? Its subjective of course but to me theyre sorta interchangeable.
Love the cool modern look...on both.
2023年モデルが好みかな！
オフロードも楽しそうです🏍️🪵
人それぞれだよね
I like that classic GSX50 in the background (4;42)
I should have featured him.
Great vid. But is the new model any faster ? Engine a bit more powerful ?
Slightly more power but of course, you can't really feel it. Both bikes are zippy at the 7000 rpm mark.
I want the exhaust, that tyre hugger, same old place for rear turn indicators from the old variant.
Also I'd love to change spoke wheels to Alloy.
& Yes, It's true. There's no riding mode. No Bluetooth & Many other features that have been stripped away from Indian version of Svartpilen. Including Pirelli Scorpian Tyres.
Hypocrisy 😂 at It's best.
I also much prefer the 2023 model look. It is very unique whereas the 2024 model looks very generic.
I agree. The button controls on the handlebars of the 2024 are very nice though.
Agree.
Looks the same to me, new 2024 looks better imo
2023 looks that much better when a new one can be had for $2000 cheaper than the 2024 in many countries.
At the moment, in Japan, the 2023 is going up in price. Still cheaper than the 2024 but just a bit. Might become a collector's bike.
what abt the shifting to neutral problem? solved on the 2024 model? and oil leaking?
The bike has only just been released so there aren't any reports of oil leaks (yet?). Neutral seems to be a bit easier but it isn't really a problem on the older models once you get used to it.
Thanks!
You're welcome!
I don't like that the finish of the seat and the rear fender is with rounded lines in the 2024 model, because the %80 of the motorcycle is angular, with straight lines and it doesn't look good to adapt rounded lines to it by force. They would have simply lengthened it the back seat, but with right angles and they would have left the spray deflector on the rear wheel which looked very good!!! For me the 2024 model takes away the essence and personality of the bike. I would have changed the seat, but with right angles and left the spray deflector on the rear wheel....No me gusta que la terminación del asiento y el guardabarros trasero sea con líneas redondeadas en el modelo 2024, porque él %80 de la moto es angulosa, con líneas rectas y no le queda bien adaptarle líneas redondeadas a la fuerza, Simplemente le hubieran alargado el asiento trasero, ¡¡¡pero con ángulos rectos y le hubieran dejado el deflector de spray en la rueda trasera que le quedaba muy bien!!! Para mí el modelo 2024 le resta esencia y personalidad a la moto. Hubiera hecho el cambio del asiento, pero con ángulos rectos y dejado el deflector de spray en la ruda trasera....
I had a 2022 vitpilen 401 for over a year and it had a problem with stalling the whole time. I took it back to the dealership repeatedly and they never fixed it. It got stolen and damaged so insurance replaced it with a 2024 model and it is even worse. It stalled multiple times before I left the dealership and their advice was keep an eye on it en let us know how it goes. It stalls up to 12 times an hour, every ride with the clutch lever pulled all the way in.
I took it for a diagnosis from an independent mechanic who told me not to ride it because it is too dangerous. I told home the only time I ride it is to take it back to the dealership.
Today I took it back and told them I will never ride it again.
We need to start a class action lawsuit against Husqvarna for endangering consumers with known faulty product and when we have gotten our compensation someone needs to do a Untied HealthCare hit on the Husqy CEO for wilfully continuing to put the public in danger.
Thanks for the detailed comment. That's quite a story and it sounds like you were pretty unlucky. I would be very annoyed if that happened to me and would demand my money back from the dealership. I'm releasing a new video next week about my experience with the bike.
is the 2024 model more off road capable than the older?
Maybe a little. Higher ground clearance.
@@bikesonabudgetjapan and suspensions no difference?
Not really. Different angle on the rear shock but couldn't really feel anything different.
But there is no bluetooth connectivity in indian models!
Even on the 401?
@@bikesonabudgetjapan yes, there is no bluetooth connectivity as on date in india for svart 401
I want the exhaust, that tyre hugger, same old place for rear turn indicators from the old variant.
Also I'd love to change spoke wheels to Alloy.
& Yes, It's true. There's no riding mode. No Bluetooth & Many other features that have been stripped away from Indian version of Svartpilen. Including Pirelli Scorpian Tyres.
Hypocrisy 😂 at It's best.
@@individual_YT Thanks for the information. Seems very unfair considering it is built in India.
Peace of shot engines made in India with engine blocks defected in casting , Cooling going start leaking only after 11.000 miles and no gasket replacement going to help you .
The new model looks like an electric bike
you talk like an ai
That's an insult to AI.
I think the new model has a better ground clearance and would be a better off-road machine.i have the money and money is not a concern.i like the older model and thinking to buy but which one.i don't care about tech and i am only concerned and keep thinking about the ground clearance would be a beneficial while offroad.whats your thought ?
Ground clearance hasn't really been an issue so far. It's not really a bike you're going to do heavy off-road riding on. I've only used it on some forest trails and on the beach. The 2024 model is a great bike but it isn't as unique as the previous models as far as design goes.
@@bikesonabudgetjapan I can get previous gen almost half the price in Australia.now I have another issue with 2023 model seat height is 835mm.i am a short guy 5 foot 7 inch is my height.i currently own Mt 09 2020 model seat height is 815 mm I barely can flat foot.
I think you should definitely go for a lower seat height. Not being able to flat foot can lead to many embarrassing moments.
@@bikesonabudgetjapan I agree;
I really like the previous model in the design as you said as well but I wasn't sure if I can reach the ground with both feet which is upsetting.i will definitely look into new one.