Excellent! You were able to convey "elbow-grease" "time consuming" and "hard-work" for anyone that thinks this is an easy task. Very well done. Safe Travels!
"Why don't I try to paint on a simple design?" *proceeds to paint in intricate detail* When you said that, I knew what was coming, but was still blown away regardless. Love it!
Thank you, I am glad you liked it! I actually tired not to go too much in detail and focus on basic outlines, I thought it would just get lost from the distance.
“ … and just gave it a shot.” Your humility is in perfect balance with your abilities - makes us all stop and think how we can best do our work and share with others. Sehr gut - danke.
Thank you, I really appreciate your comment! I am full of self doubt, so it is always hard for me to show any form of art, but it seems like people like it, it definitely boosts my confidence a little bit, so thanks again!
He's back! I JSUT finished 95% of my PMF project this afternoon, just in time for the weather to turn and get too cold for it. Tomorrow is paint, and I will be 99% watertight and sealed in for the winter. That design you handpainted on was really amazing, Adrian! Looks fantastic.
@@adrianwoodworm Getting there. I'm about halfway, I'd say. The primary goal for the past month was to get it built and get the exterior sealed up and have it dried in for the winter. I haven't even started on the interior yet! XD
1 Thessalonians 4:11-12 "Make it your aim to live quietly and to mind your own business and to work with your hands, just as we instructed you, 12 so that you may walk decently in the eyes of people outside and not need anything." I'm mouthful from watching this video with the amazement of talent here. Your technical acumen is on another level experience, I respect the fact that you took full 3 & half years of testing the bonding and watertightness of the finish product. You are living the life some of us are dreaming of living, respect to your work, and may the love of Jehovah continue working in you.
Just awesome! I had never heard of PMF and now I think I might try it on a cabin wall. And, happy coincidence, canvas turns out to forever be an artists medium even under several coats of housepaint😂. Great mural!!!
You did it again Adrian! What a lovely video and great to see an update on the houseboat project. Glad you’ve taken the time to do this well and it certainly shows. I particularly like the alternative and thoughtful approach with the canvas, glue and paint system you have used which you also explained in a great way. How inspiring and thank you again.
Hahahaha, I expected some stripes or a swoop or something. Then you went into casually bob rossing it! All of your work is great but I had to comment because that was so unexpected. Like you said, it is a matter of preference, I think it looks great but no one can deny that your execution was excellent as well.
Great job! I'm working with foam board and PMF to create an electric boat now that electric motors are working so well on smaller craft. You have plenty of solar space on the roof there.
Thank you! That sounds like a cool project you are working on! I agree, there is lots of space for solar panels, and I hope I get the chance to install some in the future!
Really liked your art at the end. Honestly, that's some real dedication that you have with 3.5 years of experimentation. This definitely proves the durability of PMF!
Great, like the whole set up, differences on builds brings interesting concepts, I grew up in Lake town seen kids with Barrel rafts, we looked at it as in water time is great time
Alternative to PMF is his cousin PMF2 which is paint and bed sheet….very effective… and cheaper, you can use used bedsheet (free for the asking) and leftover latex paint also sometimes free for the asking… or use returned paint… paint the wood and immediately cover with bedsheet then immediately repaint over the bedsheet. Let dry, then keep painting until material can no longer be seen…you can also do multiple layers of paint and bedsheet….
Great stuff! I appreciated your in-depth and knowledgable explanation, and the cool scene you painted on the cabin of the boat was a fun bonus, complete with a bald eagle 🦅❤😊.
It’s better to order your canvas. It is way better quality. A lot more consistent and less of the “fuzzy” bits. You also have your choice of thickness and weave. Not to mention that you can get it seamless in almost any size you need.
With the price of building materials now I've been considering trying to use this as a way to build a custom sized shed/workshop in a space in the garden. Seems like it would hold up more than well enough. If it can work for a boat it should be able to withstand British weather 😂
No doubt, that works! Ironically I plan on doing something very similar, a tiny shop in the backyard, that could be transported with a car hauler trailer if needed. I am still I the planning stage, but I already committed to using PMF for it. I might make a video about in the fall.
@@adrianwoodworm cool. Would definitely be interested in a video about how you'd go about it. I just need to think about the door design, and ventilation. Currently have a plastic shed in the space and it just gets puddles of water inside it. And also I was thinking of going for something more like a foamie campervan. So the frame is made of pir foam covered in poor man's fiberglass, then with an interior wooden structure for extra rigidity to that foam structure and also to build storage and work spaces off of and a wooden floor covered with the pmf. So I'm thinking the floor would be a sandwich of plywood and foam all covered with the pmf. Ordering some pir foam soon for insulating a roof space, so I'm going to order extra and do some tests.
The boat looks great!!!! I have just started the fairing and sanding part on my boat. Since you are so good at sanding now, and you like it so much, you could come to Florida and sand my boat with me. The art on the side is perfect too!!
Glad to hear you are making progress on your boat! I am sorry, as much as I would love to spend my free time with more sanding and breathing in dust, I have to pass on your offer😆
Beautiful work and exceptional talent! Having built a few projects myself, I know quality of workmanship when I see it! I stumbled onto your video and now having subscribed, am looking forward to seeing more of your talent in action.
Getting such a compliment from a craftsman like yourself means a lot to me! Thank you for your subscription and support! I checked out your channel, I really enjoy your content, and you gained a subscriber as well😄 Cheers!
That’s gonna be a cool boat. You have some artistic abilities for sure, I like the paint job on the wall that you did in this video. I’m going to check out your greenhouse as well, that looks pretty cool.
Oh Adrian my friend, what a great video. You have an amazing body of videos in this houseboat build series, but this one especially speaks to me mate. I have been a strong proponent and study of PMF use and techniques for years. It is what I am constructing my houseboat cabin of, minus the wall framework which is wood. In my case I decided to use epoxy resin with garden cloth since it is cheaper, stronger, and more pliable than many types of drop cloth or canvas. It soaks in the resin well too. I have done experimental projects using Titebond 2 and traditional PMF, but the garden cloth and epoxy resin over formular insulation board is strong, lightweight, and fireproof. The resin has to be epoxy as polyester resin eats through the formular sheets. Epoxy resin doesn't do this. Afterward I will be painting with latex house paints, and like you, I am no fan of sanding, but this must be done of course to give a smooth finish. I love that you did a stylized mural on your open space. I think it came out rather nicely. I am planning on doing big marine life murals on either side of my own houseboat. I'll kick in to my airbrushing art skills to get it done. I'm also carving moray eel prowheads on either side of the front of my houseboat, through which I will run water spouts from my rain gutters. I figured it would make a unique marine life touch to my boat. Your project is fantastic mate. Beautifully done. That design is not something I would have thought to do for my boat, but it is extremely nice, and turned out really amazing. What a wonderful video. Thank you for posting it. Cheers! Erik
Thank you so much for your comment, I am glad you enjoyed this episode, I was afraid it would be a bit too dry since there is so much explaining going on. Anyways, it sounds like you found an interesting method to cover your Houseboat! Never heard of someone using a garden cloth/epoxy combo, what a great idea! I really hope we get to see your project one day! As a person with a vivid imagination, I can picture your fantastic art on the boat, and man, the idea of your carvings for the front!!🤯 your creativity is on another level! Very inspiring!
I have an art page on Facebook. I don't know if you are on that platform. I post boat build images and videos on my profile page as well. I will definitely share sometime. I love your videos and the build is simply outstanding. I look forward to the next build video. I got the PMF garden cloth idea from a guy on TH-cam who was building a foamie camper. It's very strong and because that cloth is made to allow drainage, it really permeates well. I like doing airbrush and colour work. I have wanted to do art murals on the boat for a long time. I want it to stand out. I'm a long way from the mural stage, but it gives me more time to plan out my images. 😉 Cheers mate! Erik
Cool stuff Adrian! I'm not a boat person, I like keeping my feet on solid ground, if you know what I am getting out, lol🤢 but, it is an amazing build and the fact you also integrate the artwork made me really enjoy watching!
By the way the painting looks great as in the artwork I was wondering myself about Titebond 3 because I seen everybody using Titebond 2 which I knew was not waterproof my question is was it still cheaper after buying all them cans of paint than doing it with fiberglass on the Hall of the boat I plan on doing a foamy camper and camper cap slide in build with a 5 mm layer of plywood on the outside outer shell and it's still light in weight I have a F350 Dually so that shouldn't be a problem but I still would rather not have to spend all the money on fuel so my Curious question is how is the fit and finish and is there anything you would do differently and is there anything you would do differently
All those cans of paint have been left overs and off paints that have been returned by customers to Home Depot and Lowes and got resold for a fraction of the cost. Only for the last two coats I bought paint in the color I wanted, so it wasn't as expensive as you would think. In comparison to what I paid to fiberglass the hull, it was a lot cheaper. (And easier to work with) There isn't anything I would do differently. Sounds like you have an interesting project on hand, good luck! Cheers!
I've built many different things throughout the years, and all I can say is: "I'm Impressed!!" That's a great system to do a fantastic final coat, and a waterproof one at that! It won't break the bank, and you don't need to gas yourself out like you would by using fiberglass resin! (one of the reasons I hate that stuff in the first place) Fantastic job you did here! Keep up the good work. oh...and get this thing finished and out on the water already!! 😎👍
Thank you sir! Unfortunately I didn't build it stong enough to break through ice, so even if I would find the time to work more often on it, I would have a problem😄 let's hope she is ready enough to be launched next summer though! Have a nice holiday season!
As I understand it, Tight Bond 2 and 3 both passed all the internal waterproof testing they did but one. They put test samples in a pot of boiling water. Tight Bond 2 broke down in the boiling water so the company downgraded it from waterproof to water resistant. So under normal use, it should be waterproof.
That is interesting. Unless climate change is happening faster and more horrific then expected, boiling water is definitely a condition the boat should never be under😄 Like I said, the waterproofing ability is not really a factor in this case anyways, the longer worktime is, so if you have a smaller surface to cover, I am sure titebond would do just fine.
When you get to installing windows, I have used butyl tape to seal windows for many projects. Never had leak problems. It never hardens but that means that it will squeeze out if under pressure. small rubber spacers help with this problem.
What an interesting project my friend , and that hand painted design , is just amazing . I've just stumbled across your channel by total accident , and though i'm not really interested in the project as a whole . I have taken a look at your previous videos , and you can rest assured i will be looking at at least a few . So , if i'm not really interested in your project , why am i here , you may ask . Well the honest answer is , i am planning something similar , just not an actual house boat . My project is based on an ocean going boat . Nothing huge , only around 30 foot or so , and basically something that's already in existence . As it's not a new boat , it will likely require a refit , and quite possibly quite a lot of modifications . I lived on a smaller boat several years ago , and basically , i miss it so much , i plan on returning . It's additive , what can i say . Okay so the reason for my post . Those test panels you used , piece number two was showing , what looked like a damp ingress on the inside of the ply , and i wondered if you noticed it . Right under the tube you glued to the other side , and around the cut out you made . It showed as a slightly darker area . Did you check this out ? .
Thank you for the comment and your interest! Well observed, and yes I did notice that. I should have explained in the video that after the first six months I have not been very diligent with observing the samples and they have been moved multiple times by myself or my wife. Sometimes they ended up flat on the deck and they were sitting in rainwater for days on end, hence the discoloration on the plywood. I didn't really care, in fact, I found that interesting since I put the bond between canvas and plywood through the worst conditions possible by being really wet from both sides, something that hopefully never happens in reality. During the summer months I continued filling up the cylinder, not as diligent as the first six months but every once and awhile, and no water ever made it through.
Great looking project. I thought the usual technique for PMF was to apply another layer of glue on top of the fabric, so that the fabric is sandwiched between two layers of glue. But I guess the single layer of glue worked okay for you.
Thank you! Yes, that is one of many variations, but I am not a fan of it. Theoretically, if you put the glue on top and then paint it, the paint will not have any benefit of the fabric holding it together. That will cause it to crack and peel in the long run. It might be still waterproof since the glue underneath will hold back the water, but it would require maintenance sooner the later.
Loved your testing and effort. Have a question about the ironing. Is the glue set before you start forming and smoothing or still wet or tacky? Interested in what if any hurdles you had with that. I’m building props for my kids marching band that need something like this to stand up to high schoolers.
I applied the canvas right after brushing on the glue. I needed the glue to soak into the wood as well as into the canvas for a good bond. I ironed out all the wrinkles while the glue was still wet. The evaporating moisture from the glue helps to get a perfectly smooth surface. After that, I waited overnight for the glue to completely harden before I applied the first coat of paint. It is a straightforward process, and I wasn't struggling with anything, really. Thank you for watching, and good luck with your project! Cheers!
Hi Adrian. Very nice and informative video and thoroughly tests 🙂 Are you using watertolerant plywood for the boats upper parts ? And how do you treat the inside of the upper part/living area ? Thanks in advance 🙂
Hi, thanks for your interest! I used marine grade douglas fir plywood for the roof and exterior grade Douglas fir plywood for the walls. I don't treat the interior, upper framing, and plywood. Since I created a waterproof vapor barrier with the poor man's fiberglass on the exterior, I need to let the walls breathe towards the interior.
Just found your channel, appreciate your ingenuity and craftmanship. best video I've seen on PMF. Did you over lap any seams besides roof over walls? Wish I could do graphics like you!
Thank you Andrew, I appreciate your comment! 🙏 There is one overlapping seam going from port to starboard as well. It is barely noticeable since the windows take up most of the surface in that section.
Thank you! That question is hard to answer because it depends on multiple factors, for example if you can get the paint for 80% off like I did, or what brand of epoxy you buy. I used west system for the hull, a more expensive brand, but then there are much cheaper brands out there so it is really hard to come up with a number. But if I would have to guess I would say that PMF can be 50-80% cheaper in comparison to fiberglass/epoxy.
Some people say their first coat on the canvas is a 50/50 mix of glue and paint. Have you tried that? I also heard that Titebond 3 will not stick to it's self when it is dry. Thoughts?
@jdedmnds1 I never tried to make titebond stick to itself. In my opinion, there is no advantage in mixing glue into the paint in the first coat. If anything, I would argue it is counterproductive. The glue would make the paint and canvas harder and, therefore, more brittle. The elasticity of acrylic latex paint is what helps to prevent cracks and leaks. Also, titebond 3 is more expensive than paint.
Yes, they come in a variety of specifications. I have seen smaller projects online, where people used it on foam boards. I would not use this method under the waterline for a big boat like mine. Maybe for a small kajak, that is not expected to be in the water more than a couple hours at the time, but certainly not for something that would be submerged for more than that.
Hard work can not be avoided.... OR it can but if you're the poor guy that must repair it, why would you put yourself thru it when you had the chance to do it right? So you gotta do the prep-work between every step & do it right if you want the work to last longer then you'll be alive? Thanks for this video & you've got so much I want to take a look at, so little time? PMF is a concept I've never heard of but now that I think about it, old homes used wood on the walls(planks) & then the older homes used some type of linen kinda like what you are speaking about? We owned a Century Home that looked like "Gone with the Wind" but we did some upgrades & discovered a fabric used on the walls. I bet that's where this idea might've come from? Anyhoo, you've got more videos than I can consume BUT do not worry, I'll be working on them. peace
Yeah, we owned an antique restoration company & we bought an old "Gone with the Wind" 100+ yr old place & my room was in the slave quarters out back,,,, lol, but inside the house we updated the bathrooms & a set of bedrooms. All of the rooms had wood planks where the wallboard are in newer homes but over that wood was a fabric. The home is close to 140yrs old today but when I saw you using fabric it reminded me of those walls because we left it on some of them b/c it was so attached.... let that be a good omen to your work. peace
It just has been a couple of months, and the boat is still in the garage, so I can't give you any more info than what I gave you in the video regarding how it holds up. Yes, I used one coat of titebond 3. A very generous thick coat though, the plywood and the canvas will soak up quite a bit. And no coat over the canvas. The paint needs to soak into the canvas, which it can't if it is coated with glue. The whole point is to combine the strength of the canvas with the waterproofing ability of the paint. Each on their own will not work, but together, they form a strong waterproof layer.
@brettpinkley3268 so far it is holding up, but my boat is still in the garage😄 Work and other projects got in the way. Since this video, I also built a truck canopy with the same method, and it is holding up very well.
النقطه التي لم افهمها هو طريقه لصق الكانفس على الخشب ممكن توضح الطريقه بكتابة خطوات العمل لان بعض الاحيان لا افهم الشرح لانك تتكلم بسرعه وانا لغتي الانكليزيه بسيطه
Ok, I will try. First, I washed and ironed the canvas very hot to avoid shrinking later on. Then I applied a generous layer of wood glue to the plywood. Next, I layed out the canvas and used a hot iron to heat activate the glue and to smoothen out the fabric. After letting it dry for a couple hours, I used exterior grade acrylic latex house paint, mixed with 25% of water to soak the canvas. I applied two coats of that mixture, followed by two coats of solid paint. (I sanded between each coat) To protect the murals, I also applied a coat of water-based polyurethane. I hope this helps. Thank you for watching and commenting!
The hull is made from douglas fir framing, marine grade plywood panels, and fiberglass + epoxy. I barely have any records of it though. It was after building the hull that I decided to record everything. You can see some pictures of it in the very first part of this 'Tiny Houseboat' series.
Thanks for working on the boat again. I must admit it's not that you aren't extremely talented because you are but boats just hold a special appeal me me
I am using acrylic exterior grade house paint, which has excellent UV resistance. In fact, out of all liquid applied coatings, paint is the most UV resistant one due to the high count of pigments in it. (especially darker colors)
Hmm, I am not sure if I translated this right😬 I don't have any containers on the roof. If you mean the two openings, then one is for a ceiling fan, and the other one is for a hatch to access the roof.
I think you downplay your artistic skills a bit much. You made it sound like you were going to paint a box house and a tree with a lemon yellow sun in the corner. The artwork on the side looks super professional. The natural and the geometric shapes work together.
One thing I gotta know. Why are you keeping a t-shirt that’s got glue drips all over it? AND… why are you wearing it every week?! Everything okay over there? Do we need to start a GoFundMe for new clothes? 😂
😅since 8 years I buy my clothes in second hand shops and I wear them until they literally fall off my body. I still have a sweater that I bought at 18. (I am 37 now...) Each year it shortens by an inch or so because the fabric is so worn on the sleeves😄 If I would get new clothes each time I get glue or paint on them, then I would have to go shopping each single day, so I decided not to care anymore. I have shirts that look more like a fishing net then something you can wear because the sparks from the angle grinder eat their way right through it! Luckily I have a lot of chest hair so it blends in and camouflages the holes😂 It has its advantages too, I had pants that had so much glue and sap from balsam fir on them after a logging season, that they could stand on their own. Very easy to get into in the morning.
If his projects get wood glue on his clothes, then it doesn't make sense to do projects in nice new clothes. A wood glue shirt is perfect to wear again for another project.
Excellent! You were able to convey "elbow-grease" "time consuming" and "hard-work" for anyone that thinks this is an easy task. Very well done. Safe Travels!
"Why don't I try to paint on a simple design?" *proceeds to paint in intricate detail*
When you said that, I knew what was coming, but was still blown away regardless. Love it!
Thank you, I am glad you liked it! I actually tired not to go too much in detail and focus on basic outlines, I thought it would just get lost from the distance.
I have never seen such a technical analysis of the canvas method. Very good. Thanks for sharing with us.
Thank you. It's nice to hear that someone enjoys the info! Cheers!
Simply amazing, I am 71 years old and would love to be your apprentice. You are very talented and I am glad you are back.
Wow, that is quite a compliment, much appreciated, and thank you for your patience!
“ … and just gave it a shot.” Your humility is in perfect balance with your abilities - makes us all stop and think how we can best do our work and share with others. Sehr gut - danke.
Thank you, I really appreciate your comment! I am full of self doubt, so it is always hard for me to show any form of art, but it seems like people like it, it definitely boosts my confidence a little bit, so thanks again!
There’s even a poorer man’s fiberglass: wood glue and paper towels! I have worked miracles with this concoction. Thanks for your great content 👍
I love it when people think outside the box! I might have to give that combo a try myself! Thanks for commenting!
Certain toothpaste, and toilet paper, works good too.
@@Lfs1891 😂your thinking might be a bit too far out of the box...
It's always a pleasure to see creative people at work
He's back! I JSUT finished 95% of my PMF project this afternoon, just in time for the weather to turn and get too cold for it. Tomorrow is paint, and I will be 99% watertight and sealed in for the winter.
That design you handpainted on was really amazing, Adrian! Looks fantastic.
Thank you! Good luck on your project, sounds like you are almost done!
@@adrianwoodworm Getting there. I'm about halfway, I'd say. The primary goal for the past month was to get it built and get the exterior sealed up and have it dried in for the winter. I haven't even started on the interior yet! XD
This looks to be a great method of sealing and waterproofing a diy shower pan for an RV. Also provides a nice surface for non slip safety!
Never thought of that! If it works for the exterior of the boat, why shouldn't it work for a shower pan! Good idea Sir!
1 Thessalonians 4:11-12
"Make it your aim to live quietly and to mind your own business and to work with your hands, just as we instructed you, 12 so that you may walk decently in the eyes of people outside and not need anything."
I'm mouthful from watching this video with the amazement of talent here. Your technical acumen is on another level experience, I respect the fact that you took full 3 & half years of testing the bonding and watertightness of the finish product. You are living the life some of us are dreaming of living, respect to your work, and may the love of Jehovah continue working in you.
Thank you, I appreciate your thoughtful comment! Cheers!
Great content! Back in the days before fibreglass canvas was the go to for decking on wooden boats.
Thank you! It is really interesting to hear from people what canvas was used for back then!
I have an 73 year old boat, a mullet boat it's called, she'll be returning to canvas decks
You're definetly an artist! Really nice design on the wall :)
Thank you!!
Just awesome! I had never heard of PMF and now I think I might try it on a cabin wall. And, happy coincidence, canvas turns out to forever be an artists medium even under several coats of housepaint😂. Great mural!!!
I definitely can recommend it! Thank you for commenting! Cheers!
You did it again Adrian! What a lovely video and great to see an update on the houseboat project. Glad you’ve taken the time to do this well and it certainly shows. I particularly like the alternative and thoughtful approach with the canvas, glue and paint system you have used which you also explained in a great way. How inspiring and thank you again.
Hahahaha, I expected some stripes or a swoop or something. Then you went into casually bob rossing it! All of your work is great but I had to comment because that was so unexpected. Like you said, it is a matter of preference, I think it looks great but no one can deny that your execution was excellent as well.
Great job! I'm working with foam board and PMF to create an electric boat now that electric motors are working so well on smaller craft. You have plenty of solar space on the roof there.
Thank you! That sounds like a cool project you are working on! I agree, there is lots of space for solar panels, and I hope I get the chance to install some in the future!
I found your build series because of this video - now I've watched 25 episodes and I'm amazed. Very impressive stuff!
Wow, that must have taken a while😄thank you for your interest, much appreciated!
@@adrianwoodworm Well worth it, each part as come out so well!
Alright!! Glad to see you back. As always, your work is amazing. Thanks again for sharing your experiences 👍👍👍
Thank you for tuning in again!
This is not waterproof, it is water-bomb-proof ! SUPA 👍
😅 thank you!
Really liked your art at the end. Honestly, that's some real dedication that you have with 3.5 years of experimentation. This definitely proves the durability of PMF!
Thanks!
wow that's great ! I've never seen this technique. Customized houseboat
Thank you!
Great, like the whole set up, differences on builds brings interesting concepts, I grew up in Lake town seen kids with Barrel rafts, we looked at it as in water time is great time
Adrian outstanding video, a real pleasure to watch. Looking forward to seeing more. Cheers!
🙏thank you!
Alternative to PMF is his cousin PMF2 which is paint and bed sheet….very effective… and cheaper, you can use used bedsheet (free for the asking) and leftover latex paint also sometimes free for the asking… or use returned paint… paint the wood and immediately cover with bedsheet then immediately repaint over the bedsheet. Let dry, then keep painting until material can no longer be seen…you can also do multiple layers of paint and bedsheet….
Great stuff, and along with the samples with trial data! super helpful for my next project
You are unbelievable mate. Love your work and your philosophy
Thank you!!
Great stuff! I appreciated your in-depth and knowledgable explanation, and the cool scene you painted on the cabin of the boat was a fun bonus, complete with a bald eagle 🦅❤😊.
Thank you, I appreciate your kind comment! 🙏
It’s better to order your canvas. It is way better quality. A lot more consistent and less of the “fuzzy” bits.
You also have your choice of thickness and weave. Not to mention that you can get it seamless in almost any size you need.
Thanks for the detailed information.
It helps tremendously when you are an artist. Fantastic paint job.
Thank you!
Fantastic information, very well presented, thanks.
Thank you!
Wow, wow, wow! Looks fantastic. I’m thinking of other ways to use this method. Lots of possibilities. ❤️😎🐈⬛
Thank you! Yes, I agree, I think there are many possibilities to use this technique! Cheers!
With the price of building materials now I've been considering trying to use this as a way to build a custom sized shed/workshop in a space in the garden.
Seems like it would hold up more than well enough. If it can work for a boat it should be able to withstand British weather 😂
No doubt, that works! Ironically I plan on doing something very similar, a tiny shop in the backyard, that could be transported with a car hauler trailer if needed. I am still I the planning stage, but I already committed to using PMF for it. I might make a video about in the fall.
@@adrianwoodworm cool. Would definitely be interested in a video about how you'd go about it.
I just need to think about the door design, and ventilation. Currently have a plastic shed in the space and it just gets puddles of water inside it.
And also I was thinking of going for something more like a foamie campervan. So the frame is made of pir foam covered in poor man's fiberglass, then with an interior wooden structure for extra rigidity to that foam structure and also to build storage and work spaces off of and a wooden floor covered with the pmf. So I'm thinking the floor would be a sandwich of plywood and foam all covered with the pmf.
Ordering some pir foam soon for insulating a roof space, so I'm going to order extra and do some tests.
I love the graphic you painted on! That is super cool and well done on the prep for the PMF!!
Thank you!!
The boat looks great!!!! I have just started the fairing and sanding part on my boat. Since you are so good at sanding now, and you like it so much, you could come to Florida and sand my boat with me. The art on the side is perfect too!!
Glad to hear you are making progress on your boat! I am sorry, as much as I would love to spend my free time with more sanding and breathing in dust, I have to pass on your offer😆
What an excellent video. Thank you for sharing your research and process.
Thank you for the kind comment!🙏
WOW… I am impressed, it looks great! 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Thank you!!
Well done!! Great info and awesome paint!!
Thank you!!
Beautiful work and exceptional talent! Having built a few projects myself, I know quality of workmanship when I see it! I stumbled onto your video and now having subscribed, am looking forward to seeing more of your talent in action.
Getting such a compliment from a craftsman like yourself means a lot to me! Thank you for your subscription and support! I checked out your channel, I really enjoy your content, and you gained a subscriber as well😄
Cheers!
As an option I’ve been experimenting with landscape fabric, so far really good results.
That is very interesting! I might give this a shot in the future! Thanks for sharing!
That’s gonna be a cool boat. You have some artistic abilities for sure, I like the paint job on the wall that you did in this video. I’m going to check out your greenhouse as well, that looks pretty cool.
Thank you!
Oh Adrian my friend, what a great video. You have an amazing body of videos in this houseboat build series, but this one especially speaks to me mate.
I have been a strong proponent and study of PMF use and techniques for years. It is what I am constructing my houseboat cabin of, minus the wall framework which is wood.
In my case I decided to use epoxy resin with garden cloth since it is cheaper, stronger, and more pliable than many types of drop cloth or canvas. It soaks in the resin well too.
I have done experimental projects using Titebond 2 and traditional PMF, but the garden cloth and epoxy resin over formular insulation board is strong, lightweight, and fireproof. The resin has to be epoxy as polyester resin eats through the formular sheets.
Epoxy resin doesn't do this. Afterward I will be painting with latex house paints, and like you, I am no fan of sanding, but this must be done of course to give a smooth finish.
I love that you did a stylized mural on your open space. I think it came out rather nicely.
I am planning on doing big marine life murals on either side of my own houseboat. I'll kick in to my airbrushing art skills to get it done.
I'm also carving moray eel prowheads on either side of the front of my houseboat, through which I will run water spouts from my rain gutters.
I figured it would make a unique marine life touch to my boat.
Your project is fantastic mate. Beautifully done. That design is not something I would have thought to do for my boat, but it is extremely nice, and turned out really amazing.
What a wonderful video. Thank you for posting it.
Cheers!
Erik
Thank you so much for your comment, I am glad you enjoyed this episode, I was afraid it would be a bit too dry since there is so much explaining going on. Anyways, it sounds like you found an interesting method to cover your Houseboat! Never heard of someone using a garden cloth/epoxy combo, what a great idea!
I really hope we get to see your project one day!
As a person with a vivid imagination, I can picture your fantastic art on the boat, and man, the idea of your carvings for the front!!🤯 your creativity is on another level! Very inspiring!
I have an art page on Facebook. I don't know if you are on that platform. I post boat build images and videos on my profile page as well.
I will definitely share sometime. I love your videos and the build is simply outstanding. I look forward to the next build video.
I got the PMF garden cloth idea from a guy on TH-cam who was building a foamie camper. It's very strong and because that cloth is made to allow drainage, it really permeates well.
I like doing airbrush and colour work. I have wanted to do art murals on the boat for a long time. I want it to stand out.
I'm a long way from the mural stage, but it gives me more time to plan out my images. 😉
Cheers mate!
Erik
Cool stuff Adrian! I'm not a boat person, I like keeping my feet on solid ground, if you know what I am getting out, lol🤢 but, it is an amazing build and the fact you also integrate the artwork made me really enjoy watching!
😄 thank you! I am glad you enjoyed it!
Just gave it a shot ….. wow!
Thank you!
Best technique on how to PMF with real-world testings in Utube world. 👍
Thank you, much appreciated!
By the way the painting looks great as in the artwork I was wondering myself about Titebond 3 because I seen everybody using Titebond 2 which I knew was not waterproof my question is was it still cheaper after buying all them cans of paint than doing it with fiberglass on the Hall of the boat I plan on doing a foamy camper and camper cap slide in build with a 5 mm layer of plywood on the outside outer shell and it's still light in weight I have a F350 Dually so that shouldn't be a problem but I still would rather not have to spend all the money on fuel so my Curious question is how is the fit and finish and is there anything you would do differently and is there anything you would do differently
All those cans of paint have been left overs and off paints that have been returned by customers to Home Depot and Lowes and got resold for a fraction of the cost. Only for the last two coats I bought paint in the color I wanted, so it wasn't as expensive as you would think. In comparison to what I paid to fiberglass the hull, it was a lot cheaper. (And easier to work with) There isn't anything I would do differently.
Sounds like you have an interesting project on hand, good luck! Cheers!
I've built many different things throughout the years, and all I can say is: "I'm Impressed!!"
That's a great system to do a fantastic final coat, and a waterproof one at that!
It won't break the bank, and you don't need to gas yourself out like you would by using fiberglass resin! (one of the reasons I hate that stuff in the first place)
Fantastic job you did here!
Keep up the good work.
oh...and get this thing finished and out on the water already!! 😎👍
Thank you sir!
Unfortunately I didn't build it stong enough to break through ice, so even if I would find the time to work more often on it, I would have a problem😄 let's hope she is ready enough to be launched next summer though!
Have a nice holiday season!
As I understand it, Tight Bond 2 and 3 both passed all the internal waterproof testing they did but one. They put test samples in a pot of boiling water. Tight Bond 2 broke down in the boiling water so the company downgraded it from waterproof to water resistant. So under normal use, it should be waterproof.
That is interesting. Unless climate change is happening faster and more horrific then expected, boiling water is definitely a condition the boat should never be under😄 Like I said, the waterproofing ability is not really a factor in this case anyways, the longer worktime is, so if you have a smaller surface to cover, I am sure titebond would do just fine.
When you get to installing windows, I have used butyl tape to seal windows for many projects. Never had leak problems. It never hardens but that means that it will squeeze out if under pressure. small rubber spacers help with this problem.
Good timing, thank you for the tip! I started thinking about this because I am getting closer to installing the windows.
What an interesting project my friend , and that hand painted design , is just amazing . I've just stumbled across your channel by total accident , and though i'm not really interested in the project as a whole . I have taken a look at your previous videos , and you can rest assured i will be looking at at least a few .
So , if i'm not really interested in your project , why am i here , you may ask . Well the honest answer is , i am planning something similar , just not an actual house boat . My project is based on an ocean going boat . Nothing huge , only around 30 foot or so , and basically something that's already in existence . As it's not a new boat , it will likely require a refit , and quite possibly quite a lot of modifications . I lived on a smaller boat several years ago , and basically , i miss it so much , i plan on returning . It's additive , what can i say .
Okay so the reason for my post . Those test panels you used , piece number two was showing , what looked like a damp ingress on the inside of the ply , and i wondered if you noticed it . Right under the tube you glued to the other side , and around the cut out you made . It showed as a slightly darker area . Did you check this out ? .
Thank you for the comment and your interest!
Well observed, and yes I did notice that. I should have explained in the video that after the first six months I have not been very diligent with observing the samples and they have been moved multiple times by myself or my wife. Sometimes they ended up flat on the deck and they were sitting in rainwater for days on end, hence the discoloration on the plywood. I didn't really care, in fact, I found that interesting since I put the bond between canvas and plywood through the worst conditions possible by being really wet from both sides, something that hopefully never happens in reality. During the summer months I continued filling up the cylinder, not as diligent as the first six months but every once and awhile, and no water ever made it through.
Simply awesome!
Thank you!
Thanks for sharing, great art work as well
Thank you!
Excellent video! I think I'm going to do the same!
wow, that art work looks amazing! thanks for the tutorial!
Thank you. I'm glad you liked it!
Cheers!
Great looking project. I thought the usual technique for PMF was to apply another layer of glue on top of the fabric, so that the fabric is sandwiched between two layers of glue. But I guess the single layer of glue worked okay for you.
Thank you! Yes, that is one of many variations, but I am not a fan of it. Theoretically, if you put the glue on top and then paint it, the paint will not have any benefit of the fabric holding it together. That will cause it to crack and peel in the long run. It might be still waterproof since the glue underneath will hold back the water, but it would require maintenance sooner the later.
Awesome. This was a fantastic video. I learned a lot. -T
Glad you got something out of it, thank you for watching! Cheers
Subbed! You rule! Thanks for articulating the hillbilly waterproofing, excuse me….PMF! All the best!
😅thank you!
Really nice I love the hexagons
@@Nomadman777 thank you!!
Very good video Adrian. I also subbed, to see what you get up to. Cheers.
Thanks for the sub, much appreciated🙏
Thank you for sharing the info
You are welcome, thank you for watching and commenting!
great vid love the art.
Thank you!
I don’t know if you said it in the video but I wonder how many jugs of glue and gallons of paint this took?
I think I used 1 1/2 jugs of glue. I don't remember exactly how much paint I used, but it was a LOT😄
100% you are so talented
Thank you!
Nice art work
Thank you!
"I'll give it a shot"....lol
Pretty sweet. But considering how much paint you needed, I'm not sure you saved much money! lol
😆 it still was cheap because I got most of it at 80% off.
Loved your testing and effort. Have a question about the ironing. Is the glue set before you start forming and smoothing or still wet or tacky? Interested in what if any hurdles you had with that.
I’m building props for my kids marching band that need something like this to stand up to high schoolers.
I applied the canvas right after brushing on the glue. I needed the glue to soak into the wood as well as into the canvas for a good bond. I ironed out all the wrinkles while the glue was still wet. The evaporating moisture from the glue helps to get a perfectly smooth surface. After that, I waited overnight for the glue to completely harden before I applied the first coat of paint. It is a straightforward process, and I wasn't struggling with anything, really. Thank you for watching, and good luck with your project! Cheers!
Hi Adrian. Very nice and informative video and thoroughly tests 🙂
Are you using watertolerant plywood for the boats upper parts ?
And how do you treat the inside of the upper part/living area ?
Thanks in advance 🙂
Hi, thanks for your interest! I used marine grade douglas fir plywood for the roof and exterior grade Douglas fir plywood for the walls. I don't treat the interior, upper framing, and plywood. Since I created a waterproof vapor barrier with the poor man's fiberglass on the exterior, I need to let the walls breathe towards the interior.
Just found your channel, appreciate your ingenuity and craftmanship. best video I've seen on PMF.
Did you over lap any seams besides roof over walls? Wish I could do graphics like you!
Thank you Andrew, I appreciate your comment! 🙏
There is one overlapping seam going from port to starboard as well. It is barely noticeable since the windows take up most of the surface in that section.
@@adrianwoodworm Thank you, again, a fantastic job!
great video! subscribed and following.
Thank you for your support, much appreciated! 🙏
Incredible!!! Echte Klasse!!! Do you know what the difference in costs ( at about) woud be between this system and GFK?
Thank you! That question is hard to answer because it depends on multiple factors, for example if you can get the paint for 80% off like I did, or what brand of epoxy you buy. I used west system for the hull, a more expensive brand, but then there are much cheaper brands out there so it is really hard to come up with a number. But if I would have to guess I would say that PMF can be 50-80% cheaper in comparison to fiberglass/epoxy.
Awesome job !!!!!!
Thank you!
Some people say their first coat on the canvas is a 50/50 mix of glue and paint. Have you tried that? I also heard that Titebond 3 will not stick to it's self when it is dry. Thoughts?
@jdedmnds1 I never tried to make titebond stick to itself. In my opinion, there is no advantage in mixing glue into the paint in the first coat. If anything, I would argue it is counterproductive. The glue would make the paint and canvas harder and, therefore, more brittle. The elasticity of acrylic latex paint is what helps to prevent cracks and leaks. Also, titebond 3 is more expensive than paint.
@@adrianwoodworm That is the first time I have heard it explained that way. Thanks.
Wood glue comes in a variety of specifications? Would it also work on hard foam boards? None work under the water line?
Yes, they come in a variety of specifications. I have seen smaller projects online, where people used it on foam boards. I would not use this method under the waterline for a big boat like mine. Maybe for a small kajak, that is not expected to be in the water more than a couple hours at the time, but certainly not for something that would be submerged for more than that.
Hard work can not be avoided.... OR it can but if you're the poor guy that must repair it, why would you put yourself thru it when
you had the chance to do it right? So you gotta do the prep-work between every step & do it right if you want the work to last
longer then you'll be alive? Thanks for this video & you've got so much I want to take a look at, so little time? PMF is a concept
I've never heard of but now that I think about it, old homes used wood on the walls(planks) & then the older homes used some
type of linen kinda like what you are speaking about? We owned a Century Home that looked like "Gone with the Wind" but we
did some upgrades & discovered a fabric used on the walls. I bet that's where this idea might've come from? Anyhoo, you've
got more videos than I can consume BUT do not worry, I'll be working on them. peace
Thank you for your comment and your support! It's interesting to hear that you have seen a similar technique being used on walls! Cheers!
Yeah, we owned an antique restoration company & we bought an old "Gone with the Wind" 100+ yr old place & my room
was in the slave quarters out back,,,, lol, but inside the house we updated the bathrooms & a set of bedrooms. All of the
rooms had wood planks where the wallboard are in newer homes but over that wood was a fabric. The home is close to
140yrs old today but when I saw you using fabric it reminded me of those walls because we left it on some of them b/c
it was so attached.... let that be a good omen to your work. peace
Awesome.
Thanks!
22:02 nice
@grindhardplumbing meets Bob Ross.😂
@@nhreef 😅
I’m going to build a swimming pool like this😅
I don't see why not! 😄
New subscriber 👍
Thank you, much appreciated! 🙏
Cool!
@@sinan1752 thank you!
How do I know you’re not American? ………You didn’t paint your boat as a huge USA flag. Haha I’m Canadian and that makes me laugh.
@@michaelguay 😅
I’m American and I think Americans that are crazy about the American flag nauseate me 🤣
Good thing USA is your neighbor though, by the way how is your dictator Trudeau doing?
I like it.
I'd love to see if it floats😊
Me too!😅
So how long ago did u do the pmf and how's it holding up? Also only 1 coat of titebond 2 under tarp? Not 1 over tarp?
It just has been a couple of months, and the boat is still in the garage, so I can't give you any more info than what I gave you in the video regarding how it holds up.
Yes, I used one coat of titebond 3. A very generous thick coat though, the plywood and the canvas will soak up quite a bit. And no coat over the canvas. The paint needs to soak into the canvas, which it can't if it is coated with glue. The whole point is to combine the strength of the canvas with the waterproofing ability of the paint. Each on their own will not work, but together, they form a strong waterproof layer.
Canvas coated with Arabol is a traditional method
Bob Ross had nothing on you
😄thank you, much appreciated!
How is this rebuild holding up over the years? Im doing the exact same rebuild now.
@brettpinkley3268 so far it is holding up, but my boat is still in the garage😄 Work and other projects got in the way. Since this video, I also built a truck canopy with the same method, and it is holding up very well.
النقطه التي لم افهمها هو طريقه لصق الكانفس على الخشب ممكن توضح الطريقه بكتابة خطوات العمل لان بعض الاحيان لا افهم الشرح لانك تتكلم بسرعه وانا لغتي الانكليزيه بسيطه
Ok, I will try.
First, I washed and ironed the canvas very hot to avoid shrinking later on.
Then I applied a generous layer of wood glue to the plywood.
Next, I layed out the canvas and used a hot iron to heat activate the glue and to smoothen out the fabric.
After letting it dry for a couple hours, I used exterior grade acrylic latex house paint, mixed with 25% of water to soak the canvas. I applied two coats of that mixture, followed by two coats of solid paint. (I sanded between each coat)
To protect the murals, I also applied a coat of water-based polyurethane.
I hope this helps.
Thank you for watching and commenting!
what is the bottom of the boat made from?
The hull is made from douglas fir framing, marine grade plywood panels, and fiberglass + epoxy. I barely have any records of it though. It was after building the hull that I decided to record everything. You can see some pictures of it in the very first part of this 'Tiny Houseboat' series.
Thanks for working on the boat again. I must admit it's not that you aren't extremely talented because you are but boats just hold a special appeal me me
Thank you for watching!
Rain is not the only factor, how about long term UV exposure?
I am using acrylic exterior grade house paint, which has excellent UV resistance. In fact, out of all liquid applied coatings, paint is the most UV resistant one due to the high count of pigments in it. (especially darker colors)
Je compte pas comment tu fais de si beaux losange à main lever
It sure took a lot of patience! And without the template for the outlines, this would have been nearly impossible.
Je ne vois pas le modèle 🤷♂️
Pourquoi t’as deux contenant sur le toit ?
Hmm, I am not sure if I translated this right😬 I don't have any containers on the roof. If you mean the two openings, then one is for a ceiling fan, and the other one is for a hatch to access the roof.
Parce que le vidéo est en accélérer j’avais pas vue que c’était un contenant pour le pinceau et l’autre pour le rouleaux
I think you downplay your artistic skills a bit much. You made it sound like you were going to paint a box house and a tree with a lemon yellow sun in the corner. The artwork on the side looks super professional. The natural and the geometric shapes work together.
😄I certainly appreciate your thoughts about it! I am always a bit shy to show artistic material because I never know what people think about it.
One thing I gotta know. Why are you keeping a t-shirt that’s got glue drips all over it? AND… why are you wearing it every week?! Everything okay over there? Do we need to start a GoFundMe for new clothes? 😂
😅since 8 years I buy my clothes in second hand shops and I wear them until they literally fall off my body. I still have a sweater that I bought at 18. (I am 37 now...) Each year it shortens by an inch or so because the fabric is so worn on the sleeves😄 If I would get new clothes each time I get glue or paint on them, then I would have to go shopping each single day, so I decided not to care anymore. I have shirts that look more like a fishing net then something you can wear because the sparks from the angle grinder eat their way right through it! Luckily I have a lot of chest hair so it blends in and camouflages the holes😂
It has its advantages too, I had pants that had so much glue and sap from balsam fir on them after a logging season, that they could stand on their own. Very easy to get into in the morning.
If his projects get wood glue on his clothes, then it doesn't make sense to do projects in nice new clothes. A wood glue shirt is perfect to wear again for another project.