Which Liverpool star does Steve Nicol prefer: Sadio Mane or John Barnes? | Extra Time
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- ESPN FC's Steve Nicol and Alejandro Moreno respond to fans' questions in Extra Time, including:
(0:01) Which legendary midfielder is better: Liverpool great Steven Gerrard or former AC Milan, Inter Milan and Juventus star Andrea Pirlo?
(1:17) Did the guys keep playing at all after retirement, or did they just hang up the boots?
(6:45) Is Sadio Mane better than former Liverpool star John Barnes?
(8:24) Who had more success in MLS: Nicol, who made four MLS Cup finals as New England Revolution coach, or Moreno, who won MLS Cup with Columbus Crew, Houston Dynamo and LA Galaxy?
(10:28) Who is the better player: Real Madrid's James Rodriguez or Bayern Munich's Philippe Coutinho?
(11:50) Who would Stevie put in England's front three with Harry Kane?
(13:51) What is Craig Burley like out on the golf course?
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John Barnes was magic he could do anything especially playing with Beardsley .
What a combo they were. Twinkle feet was underrated. Barnes was magic
John Barnes, probably the most underated English player ever. Guy was a genius.
Jamaican* never forget it
@@damaine3209 when hes good hes english! just like tennis players! andy murray was english for a short while looool
Better than Gascoigne and more gifted than Gerrard, Suarez and Dalgish. Shame he played in a racist era and shame English sides were banned in Europe.
@@antwango lol...smh, Raheem is still very much Jamaican too.
So overrated it’s unbelievable
Steve Nicol was one of the best players of his era. A true Liverpool legend.
Definitely. Jamie carragher put him in his greatest lfc team of players throughout history.
Mane is an amazing player but yeah John Barnes in his prime was unbelievable!
Also people forget how good Stevie Nicol was...an absolute legend.
👍
He is ruining his reputation with horibly stupid coments as a poundit
Navah King yeah right for the over 40s as a pinkish fat goalie. A blimp of a legend
@@astronauttent8144, ESPN is paying him to do it. If anyone was offered that, they would take it.
@@astronauttent8144 not really. Very few people in Britain see this, and those who do only watch it for humour anyway. And it has nothing to do with his ability or career as a player.
I want to see Stevie smack up Dan one day.
Well said!!
Wait until they get back into the studio
Yup, Dan's an idiot.
do you mean david?
I'm a United fan but I still love Stevie Nicol. Funny man
Mick Doyle he is a moron
Jonathan Martin mate your a wanker .
@@jonathanmartin4125 He's a legend. Great great player
Pirlo was an absolute genius who could contrtol full matches look at the game vs England in euro 2012 he had more touches and passes than the whole England midfield combined a game with Gerrard in it that’s how good pirlo was plus his penalty at the end was magnificent
ir right about trashford, but thats your name? lol. and pirlo better but all round gerrard
Jay Anthony how can you say he wasn’t on Gerrards level the guy won everything his control of a game was a thing of beauty gerrard is a wonderful player he will score more goals than pirlo but it’s just my opinion I think pirlo is a better player his style of play made him effective for longer
...most touches means absolutely nothing...look up the stats at the end of many professional games...the four CB's generally have most touches of all the outfield players...
The greatest tragedy of that game is that Pirlo controlled it and STILL couldn't get the job done against England, had to go to penalties
@Shahzaib Khan pirlo easily over gerrard.. pirlo went to juventus and completely changed that team
.and he was already old at the time..no comparision
I agree. In that 1987/88 season Barnes was just amazing.
Mark Simons: 22 goals from left wing 😳😳😳😳
That was a great Liverpool team and Barnes was the jewel in the crown.
I had the privilege to watch John week in week out and it took my breath away at times.
I saw Barnes play numerous times for Liverpool. I was also at Wembley right behind the goal when he scored a brilliant free kick against the Netherlands and a great half volley in a friendly against Uruguay.
Lucky
He took everyone's breath away with his footballing ability and IQ
John Barnes was pure class and among the quality players of the 1980s, deprived of the big European games in his career we never got to witness his full potential !!
Love Mane but Prime John Barnes was unplayable,a Beast. Still my LFC hero from Childhood great man too.
John Barnes was different levels to today’s players. Not even in the same sentence
Thank you.
I agree 100%.
These guys have fun. Love it.
Remember when England went to Brazil to play some warm up match and Barnes dribbled from halfline and scored. The guy was a great player and great dribbler. Achilles injury messed him up.
My dad raves ab that goal all the time.
I remember that.
...he ran, unchallenged, from midway inside the Brazillian half...he then dribbled inside their area...but 'dribbled from halfline' sounds better...
It was a weird run as he went diagonally across the pitch.
Do they even remember how consistent coutinho was at Liverpool
Vishnu Mahesh
Pretty sure they remember the money they made only
He wasn’t though lol he was always basic in my eyes
He reallyyyy wasn’t consistent in Liverpool
He was consistent in his last two seasons.
@@jairajsinghshaktawat6593 coutinho was the best 12 million we ever spent 5 seasons and spectacular goals such a talent before he left! take him back in a second! Suarez was amazing too the best striker at liverpool amazing talent look at Barca now without him ridiculous!
I love Mane a legend, but John Barnes was out of this world the reason I fell in love with liverpool some 36 years ago YNWA
Imagine trying to laugh at a multiple league and European Cup winner.
Exactly
John Barnes. An all round player and one of the greats.
Barnes was the black Messi. That man was a magician and a half.
I love Sadio but it will always be John Barnes for me. The bloke did and will always ooze class.
This was a good extra time
I really like the timeline in the description
I'd love to have Pirlo and Mane in my team
Can I be in your team too?
Mane is of no comparison to great John Barns, Jamaica’s greatest son.
i dont even know who that is
Really?? Tell that to a pl and a cl winner 20 goals a season one of Liverpool most valuble players
@@face8451 Watch John Barnes play. Best dribbler English football has ever seen
As much as I'd prefer Pirlo in my team over Steven G., I'd agree with Ale that Steven is a more complete midfielder.
complete= not the best
Nah Gerrard is better
Quality
Yes That’s the things I like about Ale because he always makes a firm decisions and separate two things that are same statistically
Quality craic 😂
James Rodriguez vs Philip Coutinho.
-creativity - better long shot taker
-long range passing - better dribbler
-short passing - better at finding space
-better play maker
- better free kick taker
Pirlo was an elite, luxury one of a kind rare footballer giant clubs built teams around him to challenge for leagues,CL, WC, Euro, Steven Gerrard himself tried to emulate him later in his career & failed to match, in contrast Gerrard been emulated by Jordan Henderson🤷🏻♂️ it’s enough to say he was Italy best/most influential player WC 2006 glory, the same thing 6 years later as finalist Euro 2012. Andrea belongs to the Zidane’s, Riquelme’s,Seedorf’s,Xavi’s,Iniesta’s. players with brain that decided the game already before the actual action. & you telling Stevie G who couldn’t even figure it how to play with Lampard. Please 🤦🏻♂️
put scholes in the brainy group
Oh man I so wanna see Stevie smack Dan! 😂😂
“Well thank you Dan” 😂🤣
Great craic
Steven Gerrard more dynamic and more complete, but pirlo has more trophies, better legacy, controlled games better and higher football IQ
Cheers Geoff
4th Genna true, id rather have Gerrard but I’m biased because I loved him. But I can see how people would say pirlo was better. It depends what you value in a midfielder.
Pirlo played on better teams
@4th Genna That is ridiculous. If it's all down to the slow Italian league, how come Pirlo dominated for Milan in the CL, and what about his integral part of the WC winning side of 2006 and the team who reached the Euros final in 2012. Gerrard accomplished absolutely nothing for England.
@4th Genna No, what's misleading is attributing Pirlo's success to the "slow" Italian league when it's obvious for any knowledgeable football fan that he's world class that has proven himself in the Champions League, the World Cup and the Euros. Remember when he toyed with England in the Euros of 2012?
If Gerrard was as good as you say, then he should've been able to do something with England. He had John Terry, Rio, Ashley Cole, Lampard, Rooney etc. There is no excuse.
John barnes would have made the Brazilian team in the 80s and 90s
Lmao
Barnes was on a different planet to Mane. Mane's good. Barnes was legendary.
Barnes or salah
@@sym8774 Barnes. Barnes and Suarez are the most gifted Liverpool players ever. Gerrard and Dalglish are the most iconic.
Different planet is a bold shout would like to see your opinion when mane retires because that’s only when top players get there full appreciation
@@MultiRibrob it won't matter Barnes will still be classed better due to legend status.
Professor Wingnutt yeah but when mane retires he will be a legend u dope
I like Mane but Barnes was just incredible. Carried the whole team.
Barnes was great and my favourite Liverpool player of all time but to say he carried the team is utter nonsense. He had great players around him too in Beardsley, Rush, Aldridge, McMahon, Nicol and Hansen just to name a few.
@@simondelaney6483 Indeed. Barnes added the x factor to a team that could have gone the other way after 1987. I read Ian Rush's book and he was not impressed with the signings around 1986 to 1987, he thought Liverpool might be on the decline. Dalglish had to do something and used the money from the Juventus sale well. I could be wrong but I get the distinct feeling Bob Paisley was still advising Dalglish at this stage because Paisley was actually tracking Barnes when he was manager in the early 198s.
No one is better than Barnesy
I fully agree with stevies opinion on Barnes
Ale's left eye is getting to me now 😂
@@LowkeyRmc no its not
C3PO it’s his middle eye you bimbo
@@LowkeyRmc smh
Where is ale s crazy headset did he stopped playing warzone 😂😂😂
His son took it back 😂
i would pay to watch this crew get on a game of fifa and pes and maybe play a mini league... the banter would be hilarious
Top strikers for England at this moment.
Kane, Vardy, Calvert Lewin, Rashford.
Every week when I stand on that legendary kop I thank my lucky liverpool stars
@mandem let's forget about all those things of the past that were all a big misunderstanding. We were the first team to allow women into the grounds, we've won loads of champion leagues and 18 premier leagues so people should focus on that.
I feel like they are specifically talking about my over40 team.
Andrea Pirlo won the World Cup
And Danny drinkwater won the prem, does that make him a better player than Gerrard?
@@SC-fl8eq What a comparison. Drinkwater and Pirlo in the same breath.
@@SC-fl8eq how about this for a comparison. English = rubbish? Or rubbish = English?
The inside / outside thing was pretty funny! Stevie needs to lighten up!
John barnes all day long what a bench though with mane on it .
Outside and inside football is different the ball flight is different and in most countries its cooler outside.
Dan really gets on my nerves, sometimes I just stop watching the video because of him.
no kiddin, so disruptive with the flow
He is the only one on ESPN who gets on your nerves?!
Johnny barnes was cool and collective on the pitch I always watched him very close and he knew he was special .mane is young he as to keep going winning trophies be for hes judge as good as the lfc legend barnesy is by far the greatest England player and am not lfc fan .leeds fan
"SAY-doe" lol
12:25 😂
It’s very “SADO” a grown up presenter for many years still can’t read properly. in fact it was a player’s name that been mentioned over a thousand times in this show alone. COME ON DAN. Seriously? 🙄
It's easy SA-DIO not Sedo or Sedio.
Just give the guy a break..
He is only human
@@hdtennis5897 he's a human who's poor at his job...
pretty sure hes winding lfc fans like "david" up lol
What is Steve talking about? No forward in the premier League has a higher work rate than Sadio Mané, not even Jamie Vardy, he is always pressing and has to cover for Robertson all the time but Nicol would have you believe that he is somehow underwhelming when it comes onto his defensive contributions. He is better than Barnes.
When you used to watch Barnes what did you like most about his game ?
Sadio Mane is NOT better than John Barnes
Someone never saw Barnes play.
The middlefield is charged with cover for Robbo.
Bobby is the hardest working forward on the team.
...but your spelling was OK
Damaine I agree with you man but that’s Stevie not worth a nickel. The same man who said once that a defender doesn’t need to defend (referring to TAA) he also claimed that VVD should have won the Ballon D’Or instead of Messi & many others British rubbish biased nonsense my friend.
Also he always tries to overrate his era over the previous or current ones so he can sells 5he idea he was a “top class” & someone like Sergio Ramos isn’t. My my 🤦🏻♂️
@@DR-uq4hn ...but he was top class.
To say otherwise is far more ridiculous than anything Stevie has said himself.
Ale was an average player in MLS when it was a semi-pro league. He found his true level when he was playing in the over-40 league.
Mane does his share of defensive work. He does more defensive work than Firmino and Salah.
Barnes was my favourite player when I was a youth, too.
Rodriguez is better than Coutinho. Wasn't he the best player at the 2014 World Cup? He lit up that tournament.
Some of Mane's defensive stats are 3rd in the team. What a player.
@@tsimoi273, what statistics? I keep telling people that statistics don't tell the whole story. Why are talking about statistics? Are you a football analyst? Mofos watch a game here and a game there and they think they are football gurus
I agreed with Steve but it is too early to compare sadio Mane with John Barne because Sadio still improves his performance day by day.
This is a problem.. they are not talking about success or achievements... Better player....
Dan, its sadio not sado
I prefer playing inside.
ESPNFC needs to take themselves a little more serious so that fans can take them serious ...
Couldn’t agree more with amateurs thinking they’re amazing but can’t play a simple pass. I don’t pretend I’m super skilful but I also don’t try stupid back heels or flicks (losing possession)
I dont understand that Ali don't understand that we amateur players, have a job on the side and while we want to be better we not gonna wait a few years before we make a back heel or whatever, also who does he play with for them to not be able to make a 5yard pass ? or does he mean in comparison to his level, because that just what you have to deal with, those that i play with can almost all do that as long as the pace of the game is on our level.
Finally, all clubs that i played in where people where willing to learn and train and not jsut come to train, with a good attitude from the trainer also and the right expectations we was able to make people play pretty fine, time after time. I have seen some sunday league teams in england, and i was frankly chocked. They were so bad, i dont know if thats normal, but that was almost not football and it was more than one time.
Like mls means anything they dont even call the sport by its real name European cups and English championships and cups mean a lot more.
It is true about amateurs, that is why some will stay an amateur.
9:32 what did Steve say?
You've done more snickering today than you've done in the last 5 years
Stevie Nicol a blimp of a legend for the over 40s as a pinkish fat goalie.
Mane!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sadio Mane is good John Barnes was majic
What do these people have against coutinho!!
John Barnes excellent player.
More Dan and Stevie footage😂😂😂blockbuster!!
Pepsi or coca cola. Cheese n onion crisps or ready salted.
Barnes110%
Sadio is the better player. African POTY, Golden boot topscorer, ucl winner, leugue winner should win PL Poty. fast, good in the air, good dribbler and a finisher and most important he's always clutch always scores game winners
Google john barnes mate
So you described Mane...but had nothing for Barnes.
...you didn't see Barnes play, did you.
Which was the best rapper lol
Pirlo without a doubt. He didn't need to be all over the place like what Ali Moreno said. Give him the ball and he wins u games. Not to mention his free kicks was better than Gerrard. Thanks to Pirlo and Canavarro Italy won the world cup.
Maldini Barker & the mighty BUFFON for sure.
Gattuso & Zambrotta deserve a mention too. That’s about it. The rest underperformed to their standards.
Gerrard molto diverso da Pirlo come caratteristiche : fisiche , tecniche .Non si possono paragonare!
Comparing a world cup winner to a player who slipped and missed the chance of winning the league. SMH
Or how about comparing them in the 2005 UCL final 😁 Gerrard was better end of
Hahahah wow how interesting to know the perception of Pros on Amateur players 😂😅
stevie g is best player of all time
Its Sa-Dio, Dan. Not Say-Do 😒
Only thing Stevie is in control of is the biscuit barrel.
Never thought I’d ever hear someone choose Gerrard over Pirlo. Wild choice
Hmmm they're both great players. Not much to separate them
U didn’t watched gerrard play much did u?
@ Bobby g ironic that because as good as Gerard is I would say Zidane was the best all around midfielder to ever play the game . Better than Gerard even
isco alie Lol I did. But if you’re assuming that I can assume the same about you and Pirlo lol
BobbyG idk to put Gerrard in that category. As much as he wasn’t as prolific in goal scoring. Me personally would take Scholes over Gerrard
Barnes every day
Coutinho is way better than James, what are they talking about
Where is the proof to suggest that? That is your opinion not fact. The truth is both of them are great in the #10 role or as 'cams' in a system where the team is built around them. However the new modern #10 must be more box to box & be able to press & work off the ball & coutinho & james just like ozil, isco & many others are now what we refer to as luxury players.
Matthew Bourne Coutinho is just as good in Brazil as James is in Columbia. And Coutinho dominated the premier league for years. He was better than Hazard and KDB. People also forget that Coutinho had more than 30 goal contributions in a season with Barca. James is a sub and only scores some goals cause he comes on fresh. Playing a game he gets too tired
@@joebebendorf262 Lol can't believe you just said Coutinho was better than Hazard & de Bruyne 🤦🏿♂️.You must be a brazil or lpool fan because hazard & de bruyne dominated the pl for 5/6 years while coutinho had a couple great seasons, big difference! Hazard & de bruyne are better players all day long the eye test & the stats can prove that to a blind man.
@@matthewbourne9647 actually I like Barca, Tottenham, Dortmund, Monaco and I am jumping on the Lazio hype train (who doesn't love an underdog). Coutinho was Liverpool's best player and he must of done something to be sold for a price of $140 fricken million. His control and killer passes at Liverpool were something to be admired
Gj
Why does Dan persist on pronouncing Sadio Mane’s makes wrong
RACIST
You right Ale, nobody could slip like Gerrard did in 2014 against Chelsea & handed the league title for City or the back pass straight to Thierry Henry at Euro 2004 to win a penalty for France & costed England the match & he didn’t learn from it that Stevie repeated the same exact scenario but this time was Liverpool vs Arsenal. You’re right Pirlo can’t match him at this, in contrast Andrea delivered shined & World Cup for his nation instead, took them to Euro final 6 years later (masterclass performance defeating Gerrard on the route btw) plus couple Champions Leagues & 6 league titles & other cups. What you think?
Did these guys just pick gerrard over pirlo?
Gerrard was miles better. Learn about football
Did they choose steven Gerrard over pirlo ?
@Jay Anthony what's next van dijk better than maldini
@@merdje1710 Gerrard is better tho
Pirlo vs scholes? 🤔
scholes for me tbh
@@akshatbetala2813 Nope
Barnes was way better than Mane. Ian Rush was lethal.
8:55 when u accept Liverpool are out of champions leaque
What does even that mean except to show you've extreme low IQ
@@tsimoi273 im not from uk idiot
Stevie is that grandad you hope is gonna be at all the family functions lol I can imagine how he is after a few
kane...when u going back to wwe?
John barnes. Case closed
Barnes all the way...
I’d slap dan if I was stevie🤷🏻♂️😂
Haha Stevie getting stretchered off to hospital in an amateur game