That's a very important skill. The musical education of these students is surely very different. You don't want to frustrate them too fast. So as a person who keeps the "things" together he chooses that method to reach the goal: a presentable played piece of music.
Hans M it helps when you speak German because if you only speak English everything sounds like criticism... I’m learning German so it’s obvious that it’s not critical speaking
@MrBadabimBadabum Dude what are you even complaining about. This thread is praising the effectiveness of Sir Rattles constructive criticism. Seeing problems and creating conflict where there isn't any is pretty much the definition of a snowflake
@TheBrabon1 That depends on the piece they are playing, and how may times they have played it. In a familiar piece, the orchestra could often play without a conductor. Eighty percent or so of a conductor's work is done in rehearsal.
@@cymaticCS There's two things to keep in mind here. Only the instruments that are about to play would be looking to him, and they are almost always watching him with their peripheral vision. That's one of the reasons conductors often look like they are flailing about crazily; so you can see his movements. BELIEVE me, they are watching him(or her) for tempo, volume, and exact points of entry.
I had the luxury of working with Sir Simon, when I was in National Youth Orchestra of Great Britain, during the proms season and he was such a nice guy, but he would come down hard if we messed around too much. Thing is he KNEW what we were like as he used to play Timpani there many years ago, so he understood what it was like from our point of view. He even complimented me on my violin playing during the interval. My head couldn't fit out of the door after that
The conductors who are really good get that way because they have been at both ends of the baton. I don't know if a person can even conduct, or conduct well, if they haven't been conducted.
I love watching rehearsals. It's fascinating how accurately the conductor's vision is communicated using what seem to be very imprecise, 'non-technical' means. At one point, Rattle practically says, 'Less tea with the Queen, more Darth Vader.' And gets his point across! Wonderful, on both sides of the podium. Thanks!
SInisa Stojadinovic not all but a lot can be. Look up Sir Mark Elder. I’ve been conducted by him and he could be quite harsh at times. Unnecessary insults rather than just straight musical criticism. The most famous one in my orchestra was “are you trying to ruin the performance?” said to the organist (we were playing a piece which needed organ)
@Richard Wagner OK Richard, maybe you don't like the guy but since Brexit he has taken up residence in Berlin and acquired a German passport so his commitment to Germany is beyond any question. At least he makes an effort with the language which is more than many Brits do and now that he's a permanent resident hopefully his language skills will improve to your exacting standards.
@Richard Wagner Your comparison shows your ignorance and disability to understand a persons purpose. Not all basket ball players are going to be like Michael Jordan. Now imagine calling them lazy because of it, sounds quite petty and stupid if you ask me. I’d love to see you up there, it would be an honor. Then l can complain that you can’t speak 4 languages fluently 😂
@Richard Wagner Also dude your comment history is trash. All you do is complain on this channel. I suspect your illness to come from self projection and lack of fulfillment. Typical bully mentality, whatever is going on with you and your life I can assure you those issues will not be cured by posting negative comments on TH-cam grow a pair of balls kid and talk with a therapist.
In 1963 I went to see my uncle play at his rehearsal. I was very young and in those days children were not permitted at a performance of a major symphony orchestra. But sometimes, especially if they were related to a member, they could attend a rehearsal. I was visiting my uncle and aunt for a weekend so I sat in the audience with my aunt as they rehearsed. All the musicians are sitting there in casual attire which meant sweatshirts, jerseys, red flannel shirts and unkempt hair. So out from behind the orchestra from backstage marches up this tall figure wearing white tie and tails. He looked nearly like someone from a previous century, he was almost certainly born in the previous century. His nearly white hair was combed back slick and tucked under the collar of his jacket. He ascends the podium, clears his throat, taps his baton, flipped through the pages of music, gesticulated for a moment then the orchestra came to life. Before the fifth note his waist length nearly white mane was all over the place as though he had put his finger in a light socket and there it remained for the entire duration of Van Beethoven's 9th symphony as though suspended in mid air. After the conclusion of the piece my uncle stood up and whispered in his ear, the conductor then turned around, his hair finally settling down about his shoulders and looked me in the eye and in a heavy German accent, with a twinkle in his eye, he said "Yunk man, das ist da longist standingk ovation I hast evah rezeeved!" I had stood for the entire performance often jumping up and down and clapping my hands like any preschooler. It was the most exciting experience of my early childhood and pretty much my earliest lucid memory. I think I was maybe about three. I can't remember what my uncle looked like it was so long ago but I will NEVER forget the fierce almost beastly look between his expression and hair all juxtaposed with his white tie and tails. Oh and his tails moved around as much as his hair.
Most of my conducting career has been working with amateur or semi-pro players, and I can tell you...it can be a real challenge to get what you want expressed by the orchestra. But how rewarding it is when they "get it." Then they can turn out a performance that approaches what the real pros can do......and sometimes it almost brings tears to my eyes when they break free and really sing!
I am Singing in a Semi Pro Chorus for 10 Year. (Opera,Musical , Operetta, Movie Song and old German Ufa 30th ) and we have play in Hamburg with a Big Orchestra. I now how difficult it cut be. "In the Hall of the Mountain King" is difficult , especial at the End whre it get furioso fast. The Point at 3:41 Min where Stopped ,was a typical difficult. The last notes where 3 long and getting low ,so the reaction was instant to Accrelate was to hold the Speed or even get lower. Good to hear when they are play the first 3 Notes, they are not Syncron anymore. There he Stopped.
My father used to do this. He could make a bunch of young amateurs sound better than they ever had before. All with the most positive instruction and encouragement.
“It should sound like bad weather,” and “Ugly… but perfect,” were my two fav bits of instruction. It’s so interesting to me how this piece needs to be so tight but not sound too clean to give the right affect.
For any kids reading this, there are some opportunities somewhat like this: many big cities (at least in the US where I live) have Youth Orchestras that are of a higher caliber than your reg school orchestra. For example I live in Milwaukee and around here it’s MYSO. Do some research because there may be opportunities like this around you. (Compared to a regular school orchestra).
This brought back such intense and wonderful memories. During my high school years I was part of what was then called our "all state orchestra". The last year was once of the most memorable experiences of my life (I'm now 70). I was the first chair double bassist in the orchestra and Carmen Dragon was our conductor. He was, at the time, the conductor of the Hollywood Bowl Symphony Orchestra and the father of Daryl Dragon (The Captain of 'The Captain and Tensile). This orchestra gathered during the bleak winter month of February for 3 straight days of intense rehearsals with a culminating concert on Sunday. Very intense. Carmen Dragon had the similar gift of pushing until we almost hated him then backing off with humor and prodding. He created a true synergy over those days. We had struggled with the complex evolution of Sibelius' 2nd Symphony. The last Sunday rehearsal we got it. Just as we hit the major chord in the last movement the afternoon sun came through the stained glass windows of Mackay Auditorium. Beams of colored light lit up the concert hall as we finished the piece. Dragon sat back and folded his arms with a Cheshire Cat smile on his face. we all were moved beyond anything we had ever experienced before having achieved a level of performance beyond our years. A very special talent to work with young people to take them to a place that will remember the rest of their lives. So special.
The difference between 12:06 and 14:14 is INSANE, they came together *so much better* after the directions about the necessary speed to play this piece (well). I’m not a musician but I love dance and I could feel something was off with the timing between the sections through my dancing while they were playing 😅 I can’t wait to hear how they sound at the end of this.
I found this video HIGHLY SATISFYING to watch. I loved that he chose to talk german instead of English. I am learning German and for some reason, I felt I always knew german for too long. The best conductor on this planet!!!
If they would have talked English this probably wouldn't have worked since all the kids are German and some of them probably don't now English well enough to understand musical terms.
@@Ali-kp7bh They do. I’m sure all orchestra players do just fine in solo repertoire (barring percussionists lol). It’s just, a conductor can make sure everyone is on the same page tempo, phrasing, and dynamic wise
This makes me want to abandon my medical studies and start playing in an orchestra. Or just turn back time and force my young self to study an instrument.
Cevin CHurch Music provides such a precarious living for so many, that I think you have made an excellent practical choice. Your professional services will probably be needed so long as you are able to offer them. Medicine is more than just an ornament of culture, dispensable during a pandemic. Go on enjoying your music however. God has created us with a capacity to produce it and enjoy it, not only for our own sakes but also for His glorification. Music is inherent to the mathematical relationships which govern the created universe.
@Richard Wagner You display as little sense as your antisemitic namesake, who loved pagan mythology and became an inspiration for the Nazi movement. God can heal WITH or WITHOUT the agency of doctors. Remember, it is GOD Who gave doctors the chemical, biological, and mental tools to work effectively. They did not CREATE the fungi necessary for the production of penicillin, did they? On the other hand, medical science is imperfect, sometimes misguided, and INVARIABLY fails in the end: 'FOR THE WAGES OF SIN IS DEATH......' (Romans 6:23a) I have witnessed a handful of cases and heard of many, many more where PRAYER was effective in healing an injured or diseased person in the absence of medical assistance. In one case the doctors expected a woman to die of a brain aneurysm, but fellow church members prayed for her, and she was released HEALTHY after several days with NO medical procedures necessary.
it is a privilege to play in a orchestra and a lot of people studying music for decades can't make a living out of it, propably only a few of the musicians here in this orchestra are good enough to actually play in a orchestra in the future, its a hard life to make money with classic music, but playing music just for fun can be really cool.
This guy is really good at teaching people that aren’t pros (yet.) I noticed that he doesn’t critique them on things they can’t improve, he doesn’t point out mistakes, he gives notes on things that can be improved on by people at this skill level.
i could not agree more but a french horn was out of tune in the intro and also since im a trombonist myself (played F attachment and non F "no tubing inside the main wrap" that none of the trombones used the trigger at the end) but other then that it was good
Wow, the story comes alive after he did all the little tunings! They were playing for the sake of playing but after that, they did phrasing! And the way he brought teachings across without people feeling discouraged *thumbs up*! Respect!
It is all just like child's play to rattle. He handles it so well. He is never shaken by his experience. He is never slimy like a snake. I imagine his version of Haydn's 'Toy Concerto' would be spot on.
I didn't really get what the big fuss was about with the conductors was all about. But seeing this video exposes their work a bit more. You don't really see their contribution on the stage after they have tuned everything perfectly together.
There’s a Japanese animated show called Nodame Cantibile. You can watch it subbed or dubbed but it’s pretty relaxed and lighthearted show that focuses on the journey of a young man aiming to be a professional conductor in the classsical music world. There’s no big drama but something perhaps worth investing in as he is also constantly clashing with a young women with a very different approach to classical music. The story focuses more on her character and the development on their relationship with music and with each other. I highly recommend it.
Well not really you just might not know how important they are on stage. Simplest form to see why they matter is to pick your favorite music and record yourself humming the music as close as you can to the original without playing g it in the background or listening to it first. Then play both at the same time. Depending on your memory you will see that is not quite there. then imagine 100 people having to sync this way without any indication of tempo over a complex composition of musical pieces. Add to it that you can interpret music in many different ways and the result is well... this video is a very good example.
@fleeplayTV what do you mean "not really".....the OP is basically saying the exact same thing as you. They are recognising that the incredible work of the conductor is lost to most of the audience in a live performance as they all they see is the final product of an evolutionary process.
80 to 90% of a conductors job happens during rehearsal. During that time they will make any changes regarding tempo, volume, repeats, etc trying to get the piece as close to their vision as possible. Keep in mind most of the time their are no original recordings of the pieces they are preforming. So most of the time we don't know the composer's vision of the piece all we have are manuscripts. Then during the performance a conductor is their to keep time, give cues, determine the length of fermatas, and determine the speed of crescendos and diminuendos.
Funny how the percussonists just show up in a t-shirt. They play maybe the most simple instrument, but they have so much responisiblity. When one of a dozen violins is off, it doesn't matter so much. There is only one drum, and he absoluetely rules the tempo.
Sir Simon Rattle is just an absolute joy to have conducting you when you’re a student. I was incredibly fortunate to have him as a guest conductor, he has such a way with inspiring excitement in you it’s hard to describe, he just lights up the whole hall.
I love how he wants them to play with the "feeling" of the music. One can play absolutely brilliantly, but without any feeling behind it it's just fancy playing.
Absolutely impressive how he was able to bring all 6 of those orchestras together, never was he rude about his criticism, and he made it funny so they would remember it sooner.
Pro of Piano: You can play a lot by yourself because you have so many voices and such a wide range. Con of Piano: You have to play a lot by yourself, because a piano is rarely needed in bigger groups, and jf there is a piano, there probably already is a pianist better than you
Learning the music is cool but getting together with other band mates and playing together and hearing the amazement and feeling the energy in the room will always be such a great feeling
I think music is the best, most versatile and binding thing humanity has ever created. You don't need to understand the language to feel what is conveyed, a group can come together without speaking or knowing each other and yet they can create something great. So many different sounds, individually maybe only noise, yet together a symphony for the soul.
I remember learning so such through playing in my high school’s orchestra, because our school had an AMAZING music program with some of the best music teachers ever...It’s really an amazing gift to have a great conductor like this guy sharing their expertise with you!!
... I just found this video and I have have to say its great to see how he works with the kids - they'll never forget this day for sure ... as somebody who contucted an around 50 people school bigband for 20 years I have an idea of what is happening there and I really appreciate his uncomplicated an humourus way of working with this lovely 'crowd' ... :)
i know nothing about classical music but my god was this impressive to watch and to hear the difference. i would have been up there having no idea when to play even if i knew how
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Kenn ich auch noch. Meine Schwester kam oft mit Tränen in den Augen zurück nach Hause. Sie war 11 zur Zeit 😂 schlussendlich war das Ergebnis aber einzigartig!
Sir Simon, I guess you will be sorely missed in Berlin. These young musicians are Germany’s future and deserve praise. You are the ideal mentor. Thank you.
This is such a fun and educational video: *_well_* done to all involved! I've enjoyed it several times, and I think it's worth pointing a few things out. The several school orchestras combined into one big band had been rehearsed by Berlin Phil outreach music staff before what you see here. So what you see Rattle doing is sometimes reminding them of what had been already practiced; and then sometimes just taking them _beyond_ themselves. There's also a few "ringers" in the band, up to and including Sarah Willis on the french horn (she's a full Berlin Phil player, and also a specialist in schools programs): that's surely a good thing, helping to keep the sections together and sometimes just to take a lead with an entry. The french horn especially is an instrument that can just get away from you with any nervousness in your lip: and the piece starts with a simple pure horn note....... On the flip side, I suspect it was a very astute decision to select the three most reliable percussion youngsters (who were all very decent players, btw) for the "final": imagine trying to co-ordinate a nervous school percussion section of 10 or so in this piece - a potential nightmare! (Worth recalling that Rattle himself kicked off his orchestral career as a percussionist...). Finally, it's interesting to me to try and see who in the band consistently watched the conductor, and who never took their eyes off the score.... There's arguments for and against both of course, but just as an example, look at the several shots of the four double bass players (in fact, there are even more of them in the section.....). Three of them never, ever look at Rattle (even when he's encouraging them to risk "over"playing); one - the young lady top right with the long, dark hair - never takes her eyes off him, and seems to be the one trying to "bite" into the phrasing, as he's asking them to do. Great video.
"Three of them never, ever look at Rattle " It´s funny you mention that! I tried out as a "conducter" with a new (marching-)band wich didn´t know me and I didn´t know them. I noticed nobody cared about me conducting. So, as a test, I used one hand to conduct and the other to open and close my zipper a couple of times. Just to see who would notice. Nobody did. I ended up telling them I was not the right instructor / conducter for them. They didn´t need a conducter, they just needed someone to start them off ;-)
Crafting knowing the music into playing the music to come together to give the entire piece a different feel and power takes skill and talent from the instruments and knowledge of how to advise each to fit into a spot that enhances everything is just awe inspiring to watch and hear. Amazing work by the orchestra and the conductor. Wonderful performance!
I’m just laughing cuz the percussionist didn’t need help lmao (I’m not saying there’re better, it’s just that when you’re a percussionist the directors always forget about us Hdhahah)
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I agree with you completely. I have to look at the subtitles because I don't know german, but I played trumpet in an hi-school orchestra and I would have loved to have him as my conductor.
mindcode,penelope:.....it is interesting because this is the real work, the insiders view so to speak, of orchestral music. This effort to make things ever better, to polish them until they shine, is what makes musical interpretation fascinating...........and the most interesting part here is that they actually do it better after a bit of rehearsing.
Gosh! How I would have loved to be part of that 30 years ago! With a conductor like Sir Simon Rattle - every aspiring young musician's dream come true! And the sheer mass of players in all instruments. The sound-inferno that you sit in when playing a piece of massive proportion, when the wind instruments and the percussion engulfs you from behind/the side and you can't hear yourself playing anymore, even though you already do play at 5ff. Nothing quite like it!
Not really. The sheet music documents that those notes are to be especially accented. He was just trying to get the students to _do it._ Additional, many of them might not even know how to do it.
I hope those kids really do appreciate what a big opportunity and luck they had to be conducted by such a legend! (Even though they're only in school orchestras...)
Wow! I really enjoyed watching the master conductor teaching the students. He knew exactly what he wanted and was able to convey it to the kids. This was a really enjoyable video!
I have to respect someone who can be so concise, and give so much criticism, without sounding like a jerk. It's a true art
That's a very important skill. The musical education of these students is surely very different. You don't want to frustrate them too fast. So as a person who keeps the "things" together he chooses that method to reach the goal: a presentable played piece of music.
Hans M it helps when you speak German because if you only speak English everything sounds like criticism... I’m learning German so it’s obvious that it’s not critical speaking
@MrBadabimBadabum Dude what are you even complaining about. This thread is praising the effectiveness of Sir Rattles constructive criticism. Seeing problems and creating conflict where there isn't any is pretty much the definition of a snowflake
@@nicholasscott9672 hahaha. Well said! He is another SJW
NONE Nothing to do with SJW. This is how rehearsing any musical group should be done.
I love how he transitions between crazy German man and a polished English accent
What piece are they playing at first 3 minutes
@@siti4063 Peer Gynt Suite No. 1 by Edvard Grieg Movement 4 “In the Hall of the Mountain King”
Yes
Like when he said: "StarWars BattleDroid", "somebody has to play, ok so.", "Welcome to my Life".
@@Blue_The_Protogen. Es ist unglaublich Britisch. Es ist so "God save the queen".
Now i get the importance of the man wielding the stick
I do too. They are a teacher to perfect the sound of the orchestra and set tempo
Yes. The conductor's real work is in the rehearsals.
@TheBrabon1 That depends on the piece they are playing, and how may times they have played it. In a familiar piece, the orchestra could often play without a conductor. Eighty percent or so of a conductor's work is done in rehearsal.
I still don't get it... When I see the orchestra, they are not looking at the conductor...
@@cymaticCS There's two things to keep in mind here. Only the instruments that are about to play would be looking to him, and they are almost always watching him with their peripheral vision. That's one of the reasons conductors often look like they are flailing about crazily; so you can see his movements. BELIEVE me, they are watching him(or her) for tempo, volume, and exact points of entry.
I had the luxury of working with Sir Simon, when I was in National Youth Orchestra of Great Britain, during the proms season and he was such a nice guy, but he would come down hard if we messed around too much. Thing is he KNEW what we were like as he used to play Timpani there many years ago, so he understood what it was like from our point of view. He even complimented me on my violin playing during the interval.
My head couldn't fit out of the door after that
I think I woud've peaked right there
He’s a Legend for sure
The conductors who are really good get that way because they have been at both ends of the baton. I don't know if a person can even conduct, or conduct well, if they haven't been conducted.
I was in the British Youth Symphony Orchestra when Rattle was playing timps had no idea he would be such a superstar
@@suedavis3525 He regaled us with many a story from his days as timpani in NYO. He was also an all round nice bloke
I love watching rehearsals. It's fascinating how accurately the conductor's vision is communicated using what seem to be very imprecise, 'non-technical' means. At one point, Rattle practically says, 'Less tea with the Queen, more Darth Vader.' And gets his point across! Wonderful, on both sides of the podium. Thanks!
pretty much means play aggressive and less lazy
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So perfectly agree with this luminous observation. Made my week
Percussionist shows up in a t shirt. The greatest.
Typical :/ unfortunately
#rebel
Jesse Massey grande maestro simon rattle
Well, it's just a rehearsal, right? ;)
also the conductor (kind of)
What a lovely man. The world is a better place with his presence.
Max Pankau 👍👍👍👍👍 I totally agree with ya.
In my experience conductors tend to be lovely like that. Have you seen Conrad Pope working?
And his German is hilarious xD Even more with the wrong subtitles...
I don't understand. Why is he so lovely ? Why are people talking so nice about this man ? Are rest of conductors assholes ?
SInisa Stojadinovic not all but a lot can be. Look up Sir Mark Elder. I’ve been conducted by him and he could be quite harsh at times. Unnecessary insults rather than just straight musical criticism. The most famous one in my orchestra was “are you trying to ruin the performance?” said to the organist (we were playing a piece which needed organ)
Dozens of young beautiful people with lots of talent learning from a Master. This is what culture looks like.
it's what Squidward wishes he could be doing (lol sponge joke)
some Mohammed guy: hold my beer
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I don´t even know how i got here aber es war ein fantastisch orchester.
Same
I didn't know I spoke German, but yeah it was a fantastisch orchester
Да! Огромный юношеский оркестр ,а как играют! !
My man randomly switches linguas no meio do commentario, Je peux le faire aussi
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The fact he can take this orchestra which sounds pretty good for kids and make it sound even better is amazing.
This is how you deliver constructive criticism. Such a lovely guy!!
And he's not doing it in his native language. OK his German is far from perfect (it's about the same level as mine!) but he makes a real effort.
@Richard Wagner OK Richard, maybe you don't like the guy but since Brexit he has taken up residence in Berlin and acquired a German passport so his commitment to Germany is beyond any question. At least he makes an effort with the language which is more than many Brits do and now that he's a permanent resident hopefully his language skills will improve to your exacting standards.
@Richard Wagner Your comparison shows your ignorance and disability to understand a persons purpose. Not all basket ball players are going to be like Michael Jordan. Now imagine calling them lazy because of it, sounds quite petty and stupid if you ask me. I’d love to see you up there, it would be an honor. Then l can complain that you can’t speak 4 languages fluently 😂
@Richard Wagner Also dude your comment history is trash. All you do is complain on this channel. I suspect your illness to come from self projection and lack of fulfillment. Typical bully mentality, whatever is going on with you and your life I can assure you those issues will not be cured by posting negative comments on TH-cam grow a pair of balls kid and talk with a therapist.
I knew he meant business when I saw his hairstyle!
A Matt I was thinking the exact same thing.
In 1963 I went to see my uncle play at his rehearsal. I was very young and in those days children were not permitted at a performance of a major symphony orchestra. But sometimes, especially if they were related to a member, they could attend a rehearsal. I was visiting my uncle and aunt for a weekend so I sat in the audience with my aunt as they rehearsed.
All the musicians are sitting there in casual attire which meant sweatshirts, jerseys, red flannel shirts and unkempt hair. So out from behind the orchestra from backstage marches up this tall figure wearing white tie and tails. He looked nearly like someone from a previous century, he was almost certainly born in the previous century. His nearly white hair was combed back slick and tucked under the collar of his jacket. He ascends the podium, clears his throat, taps his baton, flipped through the pages of music, gesticulated for a moment then the orchestra came to life. Before the fifth note his waist length nearly white mane was all over the place as though he had put his finger in a light socket and there it remained for the entire duration of Van Beethoven's 9th symphony as though suspended in mid air. After the conclusion of the piece my uncle stood up and whispered in his ear, the conductor then turned around, his hair finally settling down about his shoulders and looked me in the eye and in a heavy German accent, with a twinkle in his eye, he said "Yunk man, das ist da longist standingk ovation I hast evah rezeeved!" I had stood for the entire performance often jumping up and down and clapping my hands like any preschooler. It was the most exciting experience of my early childhood and pretty much my earliest lucid memory. I think I was maybe about three. I can't remember what my uncle looked like it was so long ago but I will NEVER forget the fierce almost beastly look between his expression and hair all juxtaposed with his white tie and tails. Oh and his tails moved around as much as his hair.
The most talented musicians always have funky hair, it’s pretty cool to notice how a lot of musicians in general have messy hair
@@nunyabiznez6381Like shit im reading that
That is quite alright. My post, like Beethoven's symphonies, was not intended for people with short attention spans
Most of my conducting career has been working with amateur or semi-pro players, and I can tell you...it can be a real challenge to get what you want expressed by the orchestra. But how rewarding it is when they "get it." Then they can turn out a performance that approaches what the real pros can do......and sometimes it almost brings tears to my eyes when they break free and really sing!
I am Singing in a Semi Pro Chorus for 10 Year. (Opera,Musical , Operetta, Movie Song and old German Ufa 30th ) and we have play in Hamburg with a Big Orchestra. I now how difficult it cut be. "In the Hall of the Mountain King" is difficult , especial at the End whre it get furioso fast. The Point at 3:41 Min where Stopped ,was a typical difficult. The last notes where 3 long and getting low ,so the reaction was instant to Accrelate was to hold the Speed or even get lower. Good to hear when they are play the first 3 Notes, they are not Syncron anymore. There he Stopped.
I believe you conducted for the concert in New York a decade ago - I was first violin! Remember me John?
@@RadagonTheRed dude, he's in jail now, for child molestation... i was in his class as second drummer.
My father used to do this. He could make a bunch of young amateurs sound better than they ever had before. All with the most positive instruction and encouragement.
@@David_Me825 Wtf
“It should sound like bad weather,” and “Ugly… but perfect,” were my two fav bits of instruction. It’s so interesting to me how this piece needs to be so tight but not sound too clean to give the right affect.
This is true leadership telling them gently with a smiling face and extract what he wants
Amazing.... progression
Good to see some fellow Indians taking interest in western classical
I wish I could have had an experience like this when I was at school...
Tony Wang same with canada
I wish I was at school at all...
@@1973jayjay OK edgelord
@Tony Wang rofl, hello from Latvia. We don't even have this in entire country.
For any kids reading this, there are some opportunities somewhat like this: many big cities (at least in the US where I live) have Youth Orchestras that are of a higher caliber than your reg school orchestra. For example I live in Milwaukee and around here it’s MYSO. Do some research because there may be opportunities like this around you. (Compared to a regular school orchestra).
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Version 2: After rattle taught them
A student can never be afraid to fail, a teacher must be always delighted to correct. Thank you very much for this!
This brought back such intense and wonderful memories. During my high school years I was part of what was then called our "all state orchestra". The last year was once of the most memorable experiences of my life (I'm now 70). I was the first chair double bassist in the orchestra and Carmen Dragon was our conductor. He was, at the time, the conductor of the Hollywood Bowl Symphony Orchestra and the father of Daryl Dragon (The Captain of 'The Captain and Tensile). This orchestra gathered during the bleak winter month of February for 3 straight days of intense rehearsals with a culminating concert on Sunday. Very intense. Carmen Dragon had the similar gift of pushing until we almost hated him then backing off with humor and prodding. He created a true synergy over those days. We had struggled with the complex evolution of Sibelius' 2nd Symphony. The last Sunday rehearsal we got it. Just as we hit the major chord in the last movement the afternoon sun came through the stained glass windows of Mackay Auditorium. Beams of colored light lit up the concert hall as we finished the piece. Dragon sat back and folded his arms with a Cheshire Cat smile on his face. we all were moved beyond anything we had ever experienced before having achieved a level of performance beyond our years. A very special talent to work with young people to take them to a place that will remember the rest of their lives. So special.
The difference between 12:06 and 14:14 is INSANE, they came together *so much better* after the directions about the necessary speed to play this piece (well). I’m not a musician but I love dance and I could feel something was off with the timing between the sections through my dancing while they were playing 😅 I can’t wait to hear how they sound at the end of this.
I found this video HIGHLY SATISFYING to watch. I loved that he chose to talk german instead of English. I am learning German and for some reason, I felt I always knew german for too long. The best conductor on this planet!!!
One among the very best, at least. And a fabulous human being, indeed!
Das gleiche mit mir!
If they would have talked English this probably wouldn't have worked since all the kids are German and some of them probably don't now English well enough to understand musical terms.
@@HEY-gn5lx Sorry these young people speak English well enough to understand him. He was using the German for the audiance.
@@HEY-gn5lx I think some where even so young that they have just begun with English in School.
I never understood why u needed "That one person moving their hands" in front of an orchestra... Now I do damn he so important
yes also during concert cues from a conductor is very important
Yeah cause players are most of the time just "players", they dont have the FEELING for the music
The conductors job is in the rehearsal
@@Ali-kp7bh They do. I’m sure all orchestra players do just fine in solo repertoire (barring percussionists lol). It’s just, a conductor can make sure everyone is on the same page tempo, phrasing, and dynamic wise
@@Aaron-ou5mw as a percussionist, ive never been more offended over something i completely agree with
Conductors have the best hair!
Antonella Beretta I know right.
MAHLER SHAMPOO.
Antonella Beretta my conducter is almost left without hair lol
Say that to Steven Isserlis
I think that is obligatory when you enroll in the conductor study at the conservatory. Without the right coup they are not going to admit you.
This makes me want to abandon my medical studies and start playing in an orchestra. Or just turn back time and force my young self to study an instrument.
Same man. Engineering isn’t as interesting as this
Cevin CHurch
Music provides such a precarious living for so many, that I think you have made an excellent practical choice. Your professional services will probably be needed so long as you are able to offer them. Medicine is more than just an ornament of culture, dispensable during a pandemic.
Go on enjoying your music however.
God has created us with a capacity to produce it and enjoy it, not only for our own sakes but also for His glorification. Music is inherent to the mathematical relationships which govern the created universe.
@Richard Wagner
You display as little sense as your antisemitic namesake, who loved pagan mythology and became an inspiration for the Nazi movement.
God can heal WITH or WITHOUT the agency of doctors. Remember, it is GOD Who gave doctors the chemical, biological, and mental tools to work effectively. They did not CREATE the fungi necessary for the production of penicillin, did they? On the other hand, medical science is imperfect, sometimes misguided, and INVARIABLY fails in the end:
'FOR THE WAGES OF SIN IS DEATH......'
(Romans 6:23a)
I have witnessed a handful of cases and heard of many, many more where PRAYER was effective in healing an injured or diseased person in the absence of medical assistance. In one case the doctors expected a woman to die of a brain aneurysm, but fellow church members prayed for her, and she was released HEALTHY after several days with NO medical procedures necessary.
Was in band in middle school, it was awful
it is a privilege to play in a orchestra and a lot of people studying music for decades can't make a living out of it, propably only a few of the musicians here in this orchestra are good enough to actually play in a orchestra in the future, its a hard life to make money with classic music, but playing music just for fun can be really cool.
This guy is really good at teaching people that aren’t pros (yet.) I noticed that he doesn’t critique them on things they can’t improve, he doesn’t point out mistakes, he gives notes on things that can be improved on by people at this skill level.
Yes! I noticed that too and as someone who plays in an ensemble with people that are much more advanced than me, I appreciate that greatly.
6 orchestras, yet the sound is quite clean, not bad, not bad at all.
+SinisterMinister
And that's why you rehearse.
Good Night these are ordinary High School Orchestra, I think they are doing very well
@@mathildewesendonck7225 should be the best of Berlin
@@thaliarice3891 You have obviously not listened to many youth orchestra rehersals :-)
i could not agree more but a french horn was out of tune in the intro and also since im a trombonist myself (played F attachment and non F "no tubing inside the main wrap" that none of the trombones used the trigger at the end) but other then that it was good
If You Can play it SLowly Then you can play it Quickly.
That's true and tested
Sacrilegious
YES ... A TWOSETTER!
Interesting
Ling Ling approved.
This man was at the Olympics in 2012, and Rowan Atkinson was one of the musician in the orchestra.
NorZea you don't say
Omale Wegge XD
NorZea -.-
really??! rowan a musician?!!! I only remember him as mr.bean!!
b888 Rowan was featured in the London Symphony Orchestra as a presenter under the baton of Simon Rattle
Wow, the story comes alive after he did all the little tunings! They were playing for the sake of playing but after that, they did phrasing!
And the way he brought teachings across without people feeling discouraged *thumbs up*! Respect!
It’s nice to see a teacher who inspires his students and takes pride and passion in his job and actually cares to help his students thrive and learn
This was REALLY fun to watch this rehearsal.
00:00 AM and I am watching fancy haired dude conducting bunch of children.... This will be a funny night.
Baum Kuchen this is me tonight at 1:11AM hahahaha
@@cutekinoko_ 1:30 for me
coincidentally me too
02:30 AM :) lmao
Tree cake is your username?
It is all just like child's play to rattle. He handles it so well. He is never shaken by his experience. He is never slimy like a snake. I imagine his version of Haydn's 'Toy Concerto' would be spot on.
"It is sounding unbelievably British." LOL
This is very interesting to see how an orchestra works and how important is the work of the conductor.
True
I didn't really get what the big fuss was about with the conductors was all about. But seeing this video exposes their work a bit more. You don't really see their contribution on the stage after they have tuned everything perfectly together.
There’s a Japanese animated show called Nodame Cantibile. You can watch it subbed or dubbed but it’s pretty relaxed and lighthearted show that focuses on the journey of a young man aiming to be a professional conductor in the classsical music world. There’s no big drama but something perhaps worth investing in as he is also constantly clashing with a young women with a very different approach to classical music. The story focuses more on her character and the development on their relationship with music and with each other. I highly recommend it.
Well not really you just might not know how important they are on stage. Simplest form to see why they matter is to pick your favorite music and record yourself humming the music as close as you can to the original without playing g it in the background or listening to it first. Then play both at the same time. Depending on your memory you will see that is not quite there. then imagine 100 people having to sync this way without any indication of tempo over a complex composition of musical pieces. Add to it that you can interpret music in many different ways and the result is well... this video is a very good example.
@fleeplayTV what do you mean "not really".....the OP is basically saying the exact same thing as you. They are recognising that the incredible work of the conductor is lost to most of the audience in a live performance as they all they see is the final product of an evolutionary process.
80 to 90% of a conductors job happens during rehearsal. During that time they will make any changes regarding tempo, volume, repeats, etc trying to get the piece as close to their vision as possible. Keep in mind most of the time their are no original recordings of the pieces they are preforming. So most of the time we don't know the composer's vision of the piece all we have are manuscripts. Then during the performance a conductor is their to keep time, give cues, determine the length of fermatas, and determine the speed of crescendos and diminuendos.
I can't even play any instruments but this is so interesting to watch.
You’re not missing much...it’s hard
@@traelonin I've never disagreed with a comment so much. Playing an instrument can be possible and fun for anyone
Josh Dugas Never said it wasn’t possible or fun.
Don't need to know an instrument to enjoy or understand music!
@@joshdugas8421 But why do you have to get triggered, I mean you really took all that from "It's hard"?
Funny how the percussonists just show up in a t-shirt.
They play maybe the most simple instrument, but they have so much responisiblity. When one of a dozen violins is off, it doesn't matter so much. There is only one drum, and he absoluetely rules the tempo.
EXACTAMUNDO'
@@DelaneyStudios and how they r just sitting down too
And they do their job perfectly. Sir Simon didn't have a word for them.
we're the bad boys.
The percussionist's absolutely nailed it, the whole rehearsal!
This is the best insight into what a conductor actually does that I have found on TH-cam👍
My heart is fill of joy when I see those young person playing beautiful music! There is hope for the humankind!
Sir Simon Rattle is just an absolute joy to have conducting you when you’re a student. I was incredibly fortunate to have him as a guest conductor, he has such a way with inspiring excitement in you it’s hard to describe, he just lights up the whole hall.
"ugly but perfect"
"Hässlich aber perfekt"
18:55 ... ,-)
When you are in the youth orchestra, this is a treasured golden moment. Such a treacherous piece.
It's Grieg's "In the Hall of the Mountain King"
Berliner Philharmoniker thanks a lot
Thanku so much
Soo schönes Stück. Woher kommt der Dirigent ursprünglich?
I literally typed du dududu du du du while trying to find the piece hah
Absolutely incredible. Watching the learning and synchronisation process was priceless. Beautiful to see the build up to a full show. 🙌🏻 👏🏻
I love how he wants them to play with the "feeling" of the music. One can play absolutely brilliantly, but without any feeling behind it it's just fancy playing.
Absolutely impressive how he was able to bring all 6 of those orchestras together, never was he rude about his criticism, and he made it funny so they would remember it sooner.
0:52 we'll play this and see what happens. Famous last words of a high school band director
HAHAHAH YES!
9:36 quack
Too damn funny
NICE
0.25 speed 💀
Alright. You got me.
I giggled like a child
Me, a pianist: "That looks amazing, playing with so many musicians..."
Pro of Piano:
You can play a lot by yourself because you have so many voices and such a wide range.
Con of Piano:
You have to play a lot by yourself, because a piano is rarely needed in bigger groups, and jf there is a piano, there probably already is a pianist better than you
Cries in organ
but you’d have to learn a piece that doesn’t always have a melody 😭
-pianist doing her first accompaniment
Concertos are a thing.
@@ery5757 you are the orchestra. Ain't that nice?
I absolutely love watching musicians rehearse...any group of musicians getting it together and playing as a unit to create music is a true miracle.
finally an online orchestra rehearsal
Welcome to COVID era
As an amateur musician this is pretty incredible to watch as a process
Learning the music is cool but getting together with other band mates and playing together and hearing the amazement and feeling the energy in the room will always be such a great feeling
Ich habe selber eine zeitlang in einem "kleinen""esemble" gespielt (24 personen) und dashier zu sehen erwärmt mein herz WUNDERSCHÖN!!!
Großartig !!! Am Meisten imponiert mir, auf welche Weise er die jungen Leute anspricht.
Compare 1:30 to 19:30
That says everything
He's like a brilliant mad scientist!
Uncle rick
@@prajwalkolkar9200 XD I was thinking that too !!
Definitely has the hair for the role.
I think music is the best, most versatile and binding thing humanity has ever created. You don't need to understand the language to feel what is conveyed, a group can come together without speaking or knowing each other and yet they can create something great.
So many different sounds, individually maybe only noise, yet together a symphony for the soul.
Wow, I never realised how much actual 'orchestration' was included in the work of a conductor. This was amazing to watch.
I remember learning so such through playing in my high school’s orchestra, because our school had an AMAZING music program with some of the best music teachers ever...It’s really an amazing gift to have a great conductor like this guy sharing their expertise with you!!
9:48
HE SAW ME
HE KNOWS ME
DOES HE KNOW WHERE I AM AT????
Brooo 😂😂 dead asf
I feel like i can understand him even without the subtitles
Many of the musical terms he was throwing out are well known and not German.
10:37 "Yeah, welcome to my life" Hahah, the poor man! :D
😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
Me as a percussionist:
Hundreds of violins, cellos etc.
*only 3 percussionists*
Probably the most passionate and charismatic conductor on the planet
What a beautiful orchestra! What a great conductor! And so many young musicians playing so good! About 200, right?
This conductor is truely amazing. Never thought I could have so much fun watching a rehearsal.
Großes Lob auch an die Schüler!
This was amazing to watch. I love the transformation and how much they improved in such a short time! Exceptional players right there!
I would like to thank all of those musicians that gives us this precious gift: the good music.
... I just found this video and I have have to say its great to see how he works with the kids - they'll never forget this day for sure ... as somebody who contucted an around 50 people school bigband for 20 years I have an idea of what is happening there and I really appreciate his uncomplicated an humourus way of working with this lovely 'crowd' ... :)
i know nothing about classical music but my god was this impressive to watch and to hear the difference. i would have been up there having no idea when to play even if i knew how
Wow he is being very polite, I remember back in my school orchestra our conductor was constantly screaming at us😂 (I‘m from Germany btw).
Hi Lina🌹
Thanks for your lovely reply, I appreciate you dearly and I would love to hear from you more often contact me with my private email address sirsimondenisrattle.com@gmail.com thanks❤️
@@sirsimondenisrattle6502 You’re not the real one fuck off!
@@linajurgensen4698 😂
Kenn ich auch noch. Meine Schwester kam oft mit Tränen in den Augen zurück nach Hause. Sie war 11 zur Zeit 😂 schlussendlich war das Ergebnis aber einzigartig!
The inmediate improvement from 17:13 to 17:31 was incredible
This kids are so privileged! I'd love to have that opportunity
This is THE MANUAL of showing someone who has no idea of how conducting works, how it really works. What a powerful transformation 👏
Sir Simon, I guess you will be sorely missed in Berlin. These young musicians are Germany’s future and deserve praise. You are
the ideal mentor. Thank you.
Lotta respect for the talent that the percussionists have. The guy With the cymbals must be a pro
This is such a fun and educational video: *_well_* done to all involved! I've enjoyed it several times, and I think it's worth pointing a few things out. The several school orchestras combined into one big band had been rehearsed by Berlin Phil outreach music staff before what you see here. So what you see Rattle doing is sometimes reminding them of what had been already practiced; and then sometimes just taking them _beyond_ themselves. There's also a few "ringers" in the band, up to and including Sarah Willis on the french horn (she's a full Berlin Phil player, and also a specialist in schools programs): that's surely a good thing, helping to keep the sections together and sometimes just to take a lead with an entry. The french horn especially is an instrument that can just get away from you with any nervousness in your lip: and the piece starts with a simple pure horn note....... On the flip side, I suspect it was a very astute decision to select the three most reliable percussion youngsters (who were all very decent players, btw) for the "final": imagine trying to co-ordinate a nervous school percussion section of 10 or so in this piece - a potential nightmare! (Worth recalling that Rattle himself kicked off his orchestral career as a percussionist...). Finally, it's interesting to me to try and see who in the band consistently watched the conductor, and who never took their eyes off the score.... There's arguments for and against both of course, but just as an example, look at the several shots of the four double bass players (in fact, there are even more of them in the section.....). Three of them never, ever look at Rattle (even when he's encouraging them to risk "over"playing); one - the young lady top right with the long, dark hair - never takes her eyes off him, and seems to be the one trying to "bite" into the phrasing, as he's asking them to do.
Great video.
"Three of them never, ever look at Rattle " It´s funny you mention that! I tried out as a "conducter" with a new (marching-)band wich didn´t know me and I didn´t know them. I noticed nobody cared about me conducting. So, as a test, I used one hand to conduct and the other to open and close my zipper a couple of times. Just to see who would notice. Nobody did. I ended up telling them I was not the right instructor / conducter for them. They didn´t need a conducter, they just needed someone to start them off ;-)
Crafting knowing the music into playing the music to come together to give the entire piece a different feel and power takes skill and talent from the instruments and knowledge of how to advise each to fit into a spot that enhances everything is just awe inspiring to watch and hear. Amazing work by the orchestra and the conductor. Wonderful performance!
This makes me miss my band days . I would love to work with this guy . Lovely how music brings people together
What a NICE CELLO SECTION!
Sara sitting in with the kids in the horns. Sweet.
I love her!❤️
@@sarisari9183 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Willis_(hornist)
@@SoundsFromSound thank you fascinating, I was wondering who she was...
Already thought that the woman on 6:49 is not a kid
@@sarisari9183 she's one of the usual presenters in the berlinphil when they're doing special programs like this
I've always wondered how classic rehearsals are like!
Thanksss
"I'm sorry but you have to play faster here. If at all possible and even if it is not possible, we must."
I’m just laughing cuz the percussionist didn’t need help lmao (I’m not saying there’re better, it’s just that when you’re a percussionist the directors always forget about us Hdhahah)
well, at a young age, the musicians always want their own tempo;the percussionist were following the conductor. I noticed this immediately.
Hi Dear🌹
Thanks for your lovely reply, I appreciate you dearly and I would love to hear from you more often contact me with my private email address sirsimondenisrattle.com@gmail.com thanks❤️
3:16 omg the guy playing the cymbals looked thrilled to be there happy
ye lol he looked so happy and chill and he looked like he had no care in the world he looked so chill
he reminds me of DANtdm lol
@@aubreylin6422 I see what you mean aha
Haha I thought the same thing.
That low brass section is really going in on that ending bit in the second version of the full piece, love it.
I love this. So very energetic. Great conductor
Ich könnte die ganze Welt umarmen, wenn ich diese enggierten und bestens ausgebildeten jungen Menschen sehe. 😊❤
Its pure joy watching this man pull an orchestra towards its astounding purpose. ❤
I agree with you completely. I have to look at the subtitles because I don't know german, but I played trumpet in an hi-school orchestra and I would have loved to have him as my conductor.
I have always wondered how big orchestras play and how this music is put together. Amazing. Sort of an insight.
Dafuq!? I just fucking watched the whole video and it surprisingly interesting. I'am impressed. It was only a coincidence I found this :D
same, I dont know why I watched this but it was interesting :P
mindcode,penelope:.....it is interesting because this is the real work, the insiders view so to speak, of orchestral music. This effort to make things ever better, to polish them until they shine, is what makes musical interpretation fascinating...........and the most interesting part here is that they actually do it better after a bit of rehearsing.
Of course it sounds terrible in comparison, but still not bad for bunch of 16 year old kids. Rattle didn't expect them to play like professionals.
charisma of Sir Rattle made us watch whole video
How much money conductor make
Somebody has to play. What a great line, and what a great way he has with the young people.
Gosh! How I would have loved to be part of that 30 years ago! With a conductor like Sir Simon Rattle - every aspiring young musician's dream come true! And the sheer mass of players in all instruments. The sound-inferno that you sit in when playing a piece of massive proportion, when the wind instruments and the percussion engulfs you from behind/the side and you can't hear yourself playing anymore, even though you already do play at 5ff. Nothing quite like it!
The guy in the bottom left at 21:16 haha he's clearly not enjoying himself.
LOOOOOOOOOL
Maybe he is filtering sounds... or have hearing impairment or tinnitus.
Rattle's understanding and feel for the concept of accent is remarkable.
Not really. The sheet music documents that those notes are to be especially accented. He was just trying to get the students to _do it._ Additional, many of them might not even know how to do it.
I hope those kids really do appreciate what a big opportunity and luck they had to be conducted by such a legend! (Even though they're only in school orchestras...)
Wow! I really enjoyed watching the master conductor teaching the students. He knew exactly what he wanted and was able to convey it to the kids. This was a really enjoyable video!
Einfach erstaunlich was geht, wenn man ihnen die Möglichkeiten dazu eröffnet. Das prägt für den weiteren Lebensweg.